S5 still has about 1 stop better DR even with enhanced Lumiz GH6 dynamic range. Noise floor is lower in the S5 too. Both are complete beasts, you can´t go wrong really
Superb video! Quick side-note: the S5 still has better dynamic range in V-log. As a matter of fact, it has got about 1.5 stops more (1 when using DRBoost in the GH6) that is, for reference, 12 full stops above the noise floor and a 13 and 14 stop visible bellow it. Also, the S5 is still a better low light competitor, with it´s way higher pixel pitch. If IBIS matters most, go with the GH6. If sheer image quality matters more, go with the S5. It has more DR and better noise floor in standard Iso operation, and allows shallower Dof if you prefer it. The codecs are better in the GH series, though. Hope it helps to someone!
This has been interesting! I had a GH5 and then upgraded to the S5. The S5 was SO MUCH BETTER in low light I could not believe it but it looks like the GH6 has improved a lot from the GH5. Still very happy with my S5 and just ordered a Sigma 100-400 lens for it.
That’s interesting. I’ve never tried the GH5 so I can’t compare but I really enjoyed the 6. S5 is amazing 🤩🎥 oooo let us know what the Sigma is like 🙏🏻
I miss my Sony A7ii burst shooting and face/eye tracking/phase detection, The S5 frustrates me at times but is making a better photographer and videographer, Sony is like a wheelchair and Lumix is a set of crutches. I miss so many shots now, the Lumix totally botched the tripod action of Freemont Soltice parade because the Ibis was glitching.......holy freakin Jesus!!!! Waited 3 year for that. Images are soft but the colors are spot on true tan and convincing whites, not that funky green cast the Sony produced. Everyting a trade off.
I use the Lumix S1H, S5 and now the GH6 for weddings and I can say that I work well with all three cameras. Each one for a specific need, but the final work is phenomenal.
I'm starting out with doing wedding video, so I'm curious, if you could only have 1, which would it be? I'd choose the S1H (or BS1H) if its body alone didn't cost the same as either of the other 2 with a kit lens and a new Sirui anamorphic. I've done everything on a G7 so far and it's about time to upgrade
Great Video. Thank you. Switching from Canon to Pana Lumix S5 II and 2 bodies, would you recommend 2x S5 II and also with Sigma 60-600mm for Tele or 1x S5II and 1x GH6 with 100-400mm as Tele and for video and photo?
That’s a tough question. It all depends on what type of sensor you want I guess. I love the image from the GH6. It also depends on what style you shoot for example, will you ever use two cameras for filming and need to match colour? If so get two bodies the same. Plus you can interchange the lenses but you won’t be able to do that with one of each. Hope this makes sense and helps 🙏🏻🎥 let us know what you do
@@SamHolland Thanks Sam. Doing client work (photo & video) and also for us vlogging, the light equipment with the GH6 + 100-400 + one S5 would be great. So I am thinking about this combo: GH6 + Leica 100-400 S5 II + 24-70mm F2.8 + 50mm F1.4 + Sigma 20mm F1.4 Weight = around 5 Kilogram Or S5 II + 24-70mm F2.8 + 50mm F1.4 + Sigma 20mm F1.4S5 II + Sigma 60-600mm Weight = around 6.450 Kilogram Size and weight are PRO GH6 + S5 II Combo But different chargers, filters etc and not only 1 system... So I am asking you (any myself ^^) if the better low light of the S5II is worth the size, weight and also money. And what about IBIS? Is it better / more stable when GH6 + 100-400 are used or when S5 II with Sigma 60-600mm are in use? S5 II and Sigma comes also with better AF I think, right? A really hard decision!
After using the S5 for a while I could never go back to any GH, the look of the full frame is so much better, not just low light but the feel and look of what the S5 itself produces. Plus the GH6 is so much more expensive, right now starting out you’re looking at £1,250 more for a GH6 and two equivalent lenses…..not worth it for what is in my eyes a backward step.
Mateeeeee. Gh6... I can't believe i'm saying it, but that colour is really nice. If I was a film maker and never touched on photography, the gh6 is probably the one out of the two for me. Great video!
Its a bit funny when you take into consideration the GH6 is 800 grams of girth while S5 with MUCH larger sensor is 700g. But crop sensor have advantage of faster lenses, the GH6 can use F1.7 zoom lens 10-25mm. Remember that F2.8 is same for MFT and FF, same amount of light hits sensor, only DOF is different. And smaller lenses for MFT too! Which means cheaper filters, just need between 50 - 67mm filters.
I got S5 with 20-60mm f/3.5-5.6 and 50mm f/1.8 lenses all for £1500, whereas GH6 with 12-60mm lens would've been £2500. I don't think "it's tricky" with this price difference.
I mean, Unless Panasonic announce a S2H or something this october (apparently they are gonna announce something) which will basically have ALL the upgraded features of the GH6 but on a full frame, I will almost certainly be buying the GH6 this winter.
Great video mate! Well impressed with how good the footage looks from both of these! I think image quality and colours may be slightly better than canon and Sony for me 🎥
Nice comparison, especially the side-by-side shots. If someone wanted to vlog using the GH6, I would think the Panasonic/Leica DG SUMMILUX 9mm F1.7 would work quite well. (The fact that the kit lens with the GH6 is not a vlogging lens would not be a consideration for me.)
If I didn't have my S5 yet I think I would have gone to the GH6. But then again... The S5 was 1300€ when I bought it , including the cashback vs the GH6 is currently 2200€, which is almost sony territory. I think I'll start saving up and get the S6 or sth. comparable whenever it comes out 😅. Until then the S5 is everything I currently need
After one year, and coming from a GH5, I am still shocked every time I grade V-Log footage from my S1. The image quality from Panasonic full frame cameras is just insane
His reasoning is flawed, just bc the highlights seemed brighter at the same exposure isn't a reflection of DR difference. Lenses have different rate of light transmitting... He should do an over and under exposure test on the 2 cameras and see how many stops in both directions he can recover. That's a good test of DR.
S5 all the way. And I added ninja v and that is just insane. Raw is virtually noiseless which is a plus for a full frame sensor. And that full frame look....
RAW is the opposite of noiseless. Cameras have noise reduction in their codecs, but RAW has much more noise than internal codecs. You need to process RAW video and RAW photos, so sharpening and noise reduction must be done in post production. With enough light, RAW can seem to have less noise but it’s there.
@@jayclas4023 I don't think you understood.....Full frame sensor is much better choice to shoot in raw for obvious reasons....But raw on S5 is very clean...Even Atomos states the same..... By the way I shoot in raw a very long time.... Cheers
I got the GH6 3 weeks ago as my first Panasonic camera. I am in love with its image. The 75FPS is ridiculous; I only wish it didn't have such a small buffer size!
Seems like they added a nice anti aliasing filter to the GH6 which is a great thing. I think the G7 was one of their best looking cameras because of that AA filter.
As a user of vintage prime lenses, Micro 4/3 is really not an option, if you want even a remotely wide field of view. My Nikon AI/AI-S kit consists of 24-35-50-85-105 and 135 mm lenses. It’s full frame for me if I want my 24 to be a 24, not a 48.
Great vid. Something is off with DR. The S5 (and in general this 24mp FF sensor) is still about a stop better than the GH6 (even with DR Boost ON). CineD has quite a scientific test about both.
Been waiting for this comparison! My GH6 arrives tomorrow 😃 I think the apparent dynamic range advantage of the GH6 is owed to the updated color science. Panasonic has historically not had the most pleasing highlight roll-off, and the GH6 seems to have finally addressed this and given us a smoother highlight roll-off that, to my eye, is reminiscent of the Arri Alexa's. Technically though, the S5 does have a little more dynamic range than the GH6-0.5-1 stop when DR Boost is activated and 1.5-2 stops otherwise.
How is the gh6 in low light situations compared to the A7III? i have an a7iiii and i'm looking for a new camera with at least 4k60 and the gh6 seems to have everything i need, but I'm afraid of the micro 4/3 sensor. All my life I've been with full frame cameras. The A7SIII is very expensive and the a7iv as a big crop I don't know if it's a good upgrade. Keep it up!
I will probably buy a GH6 since I already have a GH4 and three Lumix lenses. The full frame dream is ten years too late for me. I was telling Panasonic in 2012 that the mirrorless revolution would happen in full bloom with full frame. Of course, I thought back then that Canon and Nikon were just about to release full frame competitors to the Micro 4/3 line-up. I would have bought whichever made sense. But Panasonic made the most sense, and I wound up with a GH4 in 2015. It has been everything I asked of it. But I don't ask it to do sports or wildlife or anything where available darkness and autofocus cross paths.
Most articles and videos seem to review Fujifilm, Nikon, Sony, and Canon, but not Panasonic higher end cameras. This review has made me consider a Panasonic versus all the others, particularly the GH6 really looks appealing to me. Thank you for this review!
I love the features on the GH6. It is an absolute BEAST of a micro 4/3 camera, but when you compare image quality alone, I don't think the GH6 can beat the S5.
I have gh6 and S5... For video alone I prefer GH6. The image quality is superb on gh6, and the color is better, af is better and the image stabilization is better. I made ISO test, from 200 to 4000 iso I don't see any difference. And the lenses, full frame is so much expensive, not worth it..
Interesting you didn't mention if you thought the price difference was worth it, at the moment the GH6 is £500 more if you buy each camera with their kit lens. Do you feel the GH6 is worth the extra? I am toying with moving to Lumix from Sony and love the look of the S5. I am leaning more towards the S5 as it is full frame and I will be mainly shooting low light music events so the extra noise from the GH6 would be an issue. The only thing that has me thinking now is the Auto focus on the GH6! Why is it never simple!
Hey, which way did you go? Agreed on pricing...I'm looking at used S5 and they are only £650, whilst GH6 is over 1k, so a huge price difference, more in line with S5 ii. Tempted to buy the cheap S5 and see how I feel about FF coming from GH5
Great video again man you really are good at these comparison videos, I feel I ramble too much lol. Oh and...........COME TO CHICAGO lol no rush whenever ya can 😆😂
Thanks brother! 🤩🙏🏻 you don’t ramble, I ramble! But I love cameras so it’s ok to ramble 😂 haha mate I’ll be there soon for sure! 💪🏻 thanks for watching
@@kayodeolaosebikan7462 ...yes, but at a much higher cost. The S5 in the UK is currently £1299 which includes a free 50mm 1.8 lens. The GH6 costs £1999 and then you have to purchase a speedbooster and a lens on top. The S5 is amazing value for a Full Frame camera.
I have always had micro 4/3 and I make videos (in the past I had two GH3), now I have many optics m4 / 3, G9 + GX80 and I waited for GH6 ... so I bought S5 ... because at the same price as GH6 I have bought S5 + 20-60mm + 85mm F1.8 used, finally I also added the 24mm F 1.8. The choice was to have a decisive step forward in the low lights and now the G9 + S5 pair is the top for me! in 2023 I will change G9 maybe with GH6 if it will cost a little less ...
Hello, thanks for great and informative video. Just found your channel and subscribed it already. Regarding the vlogging: I have GH6 with the 10-25 F/1.7 lense that makes excellent job. To be honest no difference between GH6 and S5 in wideness. So in this category both cameras do same job hence there is the weight difference :)
i have an S5, and i do not have a GH6, so this is pretty useless opinion, but the dynamic range thing, the dual native ISO on the S5 just gives me more confidence or "security" than the dynamic range boost of the GH6. i'm not sure if that's real, but just a "feeling" i have.
I have the GH6, S1 and G9. Using mostly Natural and CineD I always found the image coming from the GH6 a bit "plastic" when shooting faces and I just figured out why, the AF is not accurate ....
there is big deffrence between them. The gh6 made for video( storytelling and filmmaking), but s5 made for( vlogging and photography) because it's full frame, and sensevty for lowlights because the sensor is bigger than gh6 that has 3/4 sensor and is also very good in lowlights, finely both cameras are amazing, and depending on what you want shooting for...👍👍👍
(3:40) The GH5m2 has basically the same AF system as the S5, only with µ4/3 sensor. I find it works remarkably well too, if not better. Recently added the 10-25mm/ 1.7 Leica, to complement a 17mm & 45mm 1.2 primes, with the 25-50mm/ f1.7 Leica on the way. The lens is incredibly sharp, and very adequate for low-light. The S5 was not tempting enough just being full frame, and without the more complete range of video centric features found in the GH series. Since both the GH5m2/ S5 have the same Venus Processor, I expect future updates to apply equally, yet work more efficiently on the GH5m2 due to sensor size… (9:40) If starting from scratch: I’d start with (2) GH5m2’s, The set of Leica’s and M.Zuiko Pro’s mentioned previously. At least one, if not two Atomos Ninja V’s, or (+). If necessary, either the Leica 25mm/1.4 or the M.Zuiko Pro 25mm/1.2. Economical, Efficient, and very capable. My main knock on the GH6, is lack of Battery Grip, especially since it drains power like a vampyre, and the choice to not have dual card slots that accept both CF Express and SDXC… …
I like more S5, AF Is almost the same. I work in low light situation, so full frame should be better for me. I checked S1 video footage some days ago and I was impressed with the quality of the file an work easily in color grading. Not like to much 4-3 system. Both cameras need a good autofocus and Lumix will beat any brand on the market.
Until recently I had 2 gh5, and now I've switched to 2 pcs s5 I hope and I want it to be a good decision .. still I'm thinking of gh6 ... I wish I could shoot 4k50fps without cropping
2 x S5 is a great kit. Unless you need unlimited 4k recording and tiny lenses, the S5 will do just about everything the GH5 does with video but with better image quality, colour and low light performance.
Hello Sam , well if to choice right now , I will take the Panasonic S5 I prefer full frame , I'm not big fan of micro 4/3 . Great video Sam , big like 152 , sorry if I was late to much work , have nice week .
I’m about to get the GH6, but the side by side shot you had there when you compared the hightligh, the GH6 was extremely soft compared to the nice and crisp S5. Is this only due to the sensor or did you have something else going on in that shot?
It’s probably the sensor or lens to be honest. You could use 5.7k though or add a little sharpness. I like the softness of the GH6 but I guess it’s all personal taste. Thanks for watching 🤩🙏🏻🎥
Solid comparison video. You did mention that there is some noise in the GH6, but that is minimized with good lighting. What about if you're filming a night scene or with minimal lighting to evoke a mood? Would the GH6 still hold up or would you need something like the S5 to shoot that?
Hi Travis. Thank you! 🤩🙏🏻 yeh, you’d be fine to be honest. The S5 would be better but youd still be ok with the GH6. Solid camera! 🎥 just keep the iso low
Slight misinformation here - you should have mentioned 4k 60fps when mentioning recording limits. S5 is only restricted in the top spec 4K mode and is also cropped too, making it basically APS-C.
I think I would still end up getting the S5 but man the GH6 does incredible stuff, and I loved the GH5 (currently using an R6 like you were before switching!). The colors out of it are so pleasing. I have more thinking to do than I thought!
Thank you for your work. Would you recommend the GH6 or EOS R3 for video work? 60-70% vlogging and 30-40% client work (video and a little bit photo). Especially in terms of video quality and stabilizer / ibis (vlogging...) Thank you for your help and feedback.
Hi. Thank you. I honestly can’t comment on the R3 because I’ve never used it but it’s quite large so probably not the best for vlogging in my opinion. I’d choose the GH6 BUT it’s cropped so you’d have to get a wider lens for vlogging. GH6 or S5 would be my options. GH6 has better AF though. Hope this helps 🎥🙏🏻🤩 thanks for watching
I do agree with your description of having two SD Card Slots but I like the CFExpress B cards because of faster transfer speeds. Unfortunately I believe that is one of the main symptoms that makes the Canon R5 overheat. R5c put a fan in but the battery life sucks! GH6 has the built in fan and it seems to me for a hybrid camera it is fantastic with IBIS and Power Boost Mode. The menu options are ridiculous but a well built all round camera in my opinion. But I like the price of the S5 with the kit lens. When I bought my first full frame camera it was the Nikon Z5. Price, and in my area that I live they had more lenses for that camera. The one thing that tipped the scales was the autofocusing. You make great videos. Stay Safe and Keep Smiling! Cheers!
An excellent comparison here Sam and lots of food for thought. My gh5s has served me well as a companion to my EVA1 and S5 and I've been on the fence about getting another S5 but this has swayed me to the gh6
I own GH5 GH6 and S5ii. Got a great deal to straight swap my GH6 to s5 + sigma 85mm f1.4. A cam is S5ii + Lumix S pro 28-70 B cam S5 + sigma 85mm C cam GH5 + speedbooster 18-35mm Back up lenses.. Helios 44-2 58mm and Canon 16-35 What do you think? I shoot wedding videos, a little corporate and real estate
Thanks for watching 🤩🙏🏻 ah I’d love to but I’m afraid my photography skills are not worthy 😂 and I also no longer have the GH6. I’m sure they’re both great though
Having both, the S5 is far better. Also, right now the GH6 RAW files can't be used in most standard photo software. The S5 is pretty much the best hybrid on the market today (including the R5) and is certainly the best value.
No no it's not because of your lens, the GH6 has really the best colors between every camera I have (GH5, S5, S1, S5II, G9II etc), skin tones are perfect.
I have gh5 already but feel like the lowlight is terrible so that's why I want a s5. But I just really want to vlog and stuff like gym videos going outside yk. Linda like jesse james west videos and david laid. No cinematography. But the s5 seems perfect. But maybe gh6 would be better or stick with gh5 idk I am just lost
Great video, but you do realize that for MFT cameras, a 12 mm for vlogging is 24mm equivalent? So you need a 10mm MFT lens to have the same FOV as the 20 mm FF lens. The IBIS is so much better in MFT so in actual fact, MFT wins for vlogging! I like the 10-25 1.7 Leica or the Laowa 10mm f2 (with electronic connectors!) for vlogging.
I've got an S5 and am thinking of getting a second camera. Better auto focus is something I'd really like to have. I'm most interested in film making, including music videos. Also shooting films with live actors. I'm wondering if I should get a second S5 or the GH6 with better auto focus and IBS among other things. But then what about combining video shot with the two different sensor sizes. I'm a beginner. I'd be filming alone most of the time so put one camera on a tripod. I have a gimbal but want to play around with hand held as well. Should I go for another S5 or get a GH6? A big advantage of another S5 would be using the same lenses.
Quick question then, regarding the memory cards, can you still record to the two card slots at the same time? This is one of the most important things to me. I am looking to upgrade to the GH6 and this is a deal breaker
Hi. Yes you can still record to both cards… BUT it depends which modes you’re using. If you’re using the modes that require the CFexpress then it may not write to the slower card but if you’re just using normal modes then it’ll be fine.
I don't prefer any of them. 1: I don't see any benefit of this video even I'm looking for a new camera as I would like to see whats the colours straight out of camera and settings on auto thats would tell me the colour science of camera
The GH6 looks like there is some kind of iPHONE haze face filter over it i notice it in all gh6 video. i prefure the look of the S5 alot better its more realistic and filmic
Great video, it helped me get a better idea of which one to choose, however, I think you missed a very importart point, which is depth of field. I didn't really like the gh6 depth of field.
Id love you to do a v-log workflow on the GH6. I'm not a big grader but understand I would probably need to be shooting in v-log to get the best out of it. At the moment I shoot Nikon flat profile and just tweek the footage - contrast saturation and maybe lift shadows.
For some reason, the S5 footage just looks more cinematic than the GH6. It just seems like the GH6 has more of a "digital" look. Am I the only one who thinks this?
No I agree, the S5 has more dynamic range and has better colors. Look at the saturation in his had from both scenes. It’s definitely more color information from that full frame sensor. MFT have limitations and there’s no way around it. I have a G9 and Pocket 4k and I’m definitely keeping my Pocket 4k but I’m selling my G9 for a S5!
S5 advantage over GH6 is better lowlight and DOF which can achieved on GH6 with speedbooster with FF lens. GH6 advantages over S5 are numerous of which some of them cannot be overcome. For me, I go for GH6. THANKS FOR THE NICE VIDEO
Hi Ervin. I honestly don’t know that much about adapting lenses BUT DSLR video shooter did a video all about lens adapters on RUclips so I’m guessing he’ll have all the answers to your questions 🤩🙏🏻🎥 hope that helps. Let me know what you find out
Which do you prefer??
Gh6 which I just received mine. 🙌🏼 better ibis more codecs, finally full v log! More lens selection
Exceptional HDR and Low light for MFT too
Nice!!! 🤩🙏🏻🎥 glad you’re enjoying it
Am still confused 😃
S5 still has about 1 stop better DR even with enhanced Lumiz GH6 dynamic range. Noise floor is lower in the S5 too. Both are complete beasts, you can´t go wrong really
Which one are you leaning towards?
Superb video! Quick side-note: the S5 still has better dynamic range in V-log. As a matter of fact, it has got about 1.5 stops more (1 when using DRBoost in the GH6) that is, for reference, 12 full stops above the noise floor and a 13 and 14 stop visible bellow it. Also, the S5 is still a better low light competitor, with it´s way higher pixel pitch. If IBIS matters most, go with the GH6. If sheer image quality matters more, go with the S5. It has more DR and better noise floor in standard Iso operation, and allows shallower Dof if you prefer it. The codecs are better in the GH series, though. Hope it helps to someone!
Thank you! 🤩🙏🏻🎥
This has been interesting! I had a GH5 and then upgraded to the S5. The S5 was SO MUCH BETTER in low light I could not believe it but it looks like the GH6 has improved a lot from the GH5. Still very happy with my S5 and just ordered a Sigma 100-400 lens for it.
That’s interesting. I’ve never tried the GH5 so I can’t compare but I really enjoyed the 6. S5 is amazing 🤩🎥 oooo let us know what the Sigma is like 🙏🏻
The Sigma 100-400 is a very good lens. I have reviewed it.
Yes, S5 all the way
I had a S5 Then Upgraded To The GH5 and Loving IT,
I miss my Sony A7ii burst shooting and face/eye tracking/phase detection, The S5 frustrates me at times but is making a better photographer and videographer, Sony is like a wheelchair and Lumix is a set of crutches. I miss so many shots now, the Lumix totally botched the tripod action of Freemont Soltice parade because the Ibis was glitching.......holy freakin Jesus!!!! Waited 3 year for that. Images are soft but the colors are spot on true tan and convincing whites, not that funky green cast the Sony produced. Everyting a trade off.
I use the Lumix S1H, S5 and now the GH6 for weddings and I can say that I work well with all three cameras. Each one for a specific need, but the final work is phenomenal.
Great collection you have! 🤩🙏🏻🎥
I'm starting out with doing wedding video, so I'm curious, if you could only have 1, which would it be? I'd choose the S1H (or BS1H) if its body alone didn't cost the same as either of the other 2 with a kit lens and a new Sirui anamorphic. I've done everything on a G7 so far and it's about time to upgrade
@@tanxman5 Get an S5. I also own an S1H/S5 (and am currently trialing the GH6). The S5 is the first one I reach for.
@@marklondon8793 awesome thanks!
That’s interesting. Is that because of the size?
Thank you for that video. Also good comments here. Very helpful.
Great Video. Thank you.
Switching from Canon to Pana Lumix S5 II and 2 bodies, would you recommend 2x S5 II and also with Sigma 60-600mm for Tele or 1x S5II and 1x GH6 with 100-400mm as Tele and for video and photo?
That’s a tough question. It all depends on what type of sensor you want I guess. I love the image from the GH6. It also depends on what style you shoot for example, will you ever use two cameras for filming and need to match colour? If so get two bodies the same. Plus you can interchange the lenses but you won’t be able to do that with one of each. Hope this makes sense and helps 🙏🏻🎥 let us know what you do
@@SamHolland Thanks Sam. Doing client work (photo & video) and also for us vlogging, the light equipment with the GH6 + 100-400 + one S5 would be great.
So I am thinking about this combo: GH6 + Leica 100-400 S5 II + 24-70mm F2.8 + 50mm F1.4 + Sigma 20mm F1.4
Weight = around 5 Kilogram
Or
S5 II + 24-70mm F2.8 + 50mm F1.4 + Sigma 20mm F1.4S5 II + Sigma 60-600mm
Weight = around 6.450 Kilogram
Size and weight are PRO GH6 + S5 II Combo
But different chargers, filters etc and not only 1 system...
So I am asking you (any myself ^^) if the better low light of the S5II is worth the size, weight and also money.
And what about IBIS? Is it better / more stable when GH6 + 100-400 are used or when S5 II with Sigma 60-600mm are in use?
S5 II and Sigma comes also with better AF I think, right?
A really hard decision!
After using the S5 for a while I could never go back to any GH, the look of the full frame is so much better, not just low light but the feel and look of what the S5 itself produces.
Plus the GH6 is so much more expensive, right now starting out you’re looking at £1,250 more for a GH6 and two equivalent lenses…..not worth it for what is in my eyes a backward step.
This is sadly true. If you've already got an S5 then the GH6 is pointless. As an old GH4/5 head it makes me sad, but its true.
I don’t have a S5 yet, but I do have a Pocket 4k and dual ISO is a must have for me from now on.
Im getting the S5 or S1 for sure!
@@fredriksvard2603 that crop argument is irrelevant. Look how narrow is field of view in gh6 by the default on same lens.
Mateeeeee. Gh6... I can't believe i'm saying it, but that colour is really nice. If I was a film maker and never touched on photography, the gh6 is probably the one out of the two for me. Great video!
Woooo! 💪🏻 never thought I’d hear you say that! 🤩😂 thanks man! It’s super nice isn’t it! 🎥 good model too 😜😂
Agree, the images look more organic on the gh6
Its a bit funny when you take into consideration the GH6 is 800 grams of girth while S5 with MUCH larger sensor is 700g.
But crop sensor have advantage of faster lenses, the GH6 can use F1.7 zoom lens 10-25mm.
Remember that F2.8 is same for MFT and FF, same amount of light hits sensor, only DOF is different.
And smaller lenses for MFT too! Which means cheaper filters, just need between 50 - 67mm filters.
Very complete review ! It helps me a lot. Thank you from 🇫🇷😁
Thank you. I’m pleased this helped you 🤩🙏🏻🎥
Man I love your channel. You always answer all of my questions
Ah thanks so much! I’m pleased you find the channel helpful. If you have any questions, just ask 🙏🏻🤩🎥
I got S5 with 20-60mm f/3.5-5.6 and 50mm f/1.8 lenses all for £1500, whereas GH6 with 12-60mm lens would've been £2500. I don't think "it's tricky" with this price difference.
I mean, Unless Panasonic announce a S2H or something this october (apparently they are gonna announce something) which will basically have ALL the upgraded features of the GH6 but on a full frame, I will almost certainly be buying the GH6 this winter.
Great video mate! Well impressed with how good the footage looks from both of these! I think image quality and colours may be slightly better than canon and Sony for me 🎥
Cheers, Scott! They’re great cameras aren’t they. Definitely got a look about them. I’m well happy 🤩🎥
Nice comparison, especially the side-by-side shots. If someone wanted to vlog using the GH6, I would think the Panasonic/Leica DG SUMMILUX 9mm F1.7 would work quite well. (The fact that the kit lens with the GH6 is not a vlogging lens would not be a consideration for me.)
Many Thanks sam!
If I didn't have my S5 yet I think I would have gone to the GH6. But then again... The S5 was 1300€ when I bought it , including the cashback vs the GH6 is currently 2200€, which is almost sony territory. I think I'll start saving up and get the S6 or sth. comparable whenever it comes out 😅. Until then the S5 is everything I currently need
After one year, and coming from a GH5, I am still shocked every time I grade V-Log footage from my S1. The image quality from Panasonic full frame cameras is just insane
Very true
Something to mention is how the S5 offers quality photos. For those who want the photo quality along side their filming.
GH6 will offer quality photos. Ansel Adams didn't use new tech.
3:02 - Are you sure the GH6's dynamic range is better than the S5? Other tests have shown that the S5 has a stop higher than the GH6?
His reasoning is flawed, just bc the highlights seemed brighter at the same exposure isn't a reflection of DR difference. Lenses have different rate of light transmitting... He should do an over and under exposure test on the 2 cameras and see how many stops in both directions he can recover. That's a good test of DR.
Thanks for the video! One thing though: the dynamic range on the S5 is better than the GH6.
I do love the colours on these and yes agree the colour on the GH6 is better - ohhhh I am so tempted LOL cracking video buddy !
Oooo mate. Don’t let me make you spend more money! 😜😂🎥🙏🏻 thanks man!
@@SamHolland nah I won't unless I win the lottery then what the hell 🤣
S5 all the way. And I added ninja v and that is just insane. Raw is virtually noiseless which is a plus for a full frame sensor. And that full frame look....
RAW is the opposite of noiseless. Cameras have noise reduction in their codecs, but RAW has much more noise than internal codecs.
You need to process RAW video and RAW photos, so sharpening and noise reduction must be done in post production. With enough light, RAW can seem to have less noise but it’s there.
@@jayclas4023 I don't think you understood.....Full frame sensor is much better choice to shoot in raw for obvious reasons....But raw on S5 is very clean...Even Atomos states the same..... By the way I shoot in raw a very long time.... Cheers
I got the GH6 3 weeks ago as my first Panasonic camera. I am in love with its image. The 75FPS is ridiculous; I only wish it didn't have such a small buffer size!
Seems like they added a nice anti aliasing filter to the GH6 which is a great thing. I think the G7 was one of their best looking cameras because of that AA filter.
As a user of vintage prime lenses, Micro 4/3 is really not an option, if you want even a remotely wide field of view. My Nikon AI/AI-S kit consists of 24-35-50-85-105 and 135 mm lenses. It’s full frame for me if I want my 24 to be a 24, not a 48.
Honestly in your test the S5 skin tone looks way better
Man both cameras are so amazing. For me would be the 200fps in 10 bit of the GH6 a reason to buy it
Thanks Paul! Yeh both amazing cameras. 🤩🎥🙏🏻🎉
Great vid. Something is off with DR. The S5 (and in general this 24mp FF sensor) is still about a stop better than the GH6 (even with DR Boost ON). CineD has quite a scientific test about both.
This should be the case and makes sense
Exactly, you can recover 1 - 1.5 more stops of the highlights or shadows in the S5.
@@0017private I still think the GH6 is super usable and even better in other ways tho
Been waiting for this comparison! My GH6 arrives tomorrow 😃
I think the apparent dynamic range advantage of the GH6 is owed to the updated color science. Panasonic has historically not had the most pleasing highlight roll-off, and the GH6 seems to have finally addressed this and given us a smoother highlight roll-off that, to my eye, is reminiscent of the Arri Alexa's.
Technically though, the S5 does have a little more dynamic range than the GH6-0.5-1 stop when DR Boost is activated and 1.5-2 stops otherwise.
It does look a lot better doesn’t it. 🤩 thanks for watching and commenting! 🙏🏻🎥
I got my GH6 the other day... the video is GORGEOUS. So easy to color correct VLog. I'm in love.
Is the lowlight good? Because I think the biggest thing for me is the lowlight with my gh5 I dint see any inherent big difference between the 2
How is the gh6 in low light situations compared to the A7III? i have an a7iiii and i'm looking for a new camera with at least 4k60 and the gh6 seems to have everything i need, but I'm afraid of the micro 4/3 sensor. All my life I've been with full frame cameras. The A7SIII is very expensive and the a7iv as a big crop I don't know if it's a good upgrade. Keep it up!
I will probably buy a GH6 since I already have a GH4 and three Lumix lenses. The full frame dream is ten years too late for me. I was telling Panasonic in 2012 that the mirrorless revolution would happen in full bloom with full frame. Of course, I thought back then that Canon and Nikon were just about to release full frame competitors to the Micro 4/3 line-up. I would have bought whichever made sense. But Panasonic made the most sense, and I wound up with a GH4 in 2015. It has been everything I asked of it. But I don't ask it to do sports or wildlife or anything where available darkness and autofocus cross paths.
Most articles and videos seem to review Fujifilm, Nikon, Sony, and Canon, but not Panasonic higher end cameras. This review has made me consider a Panasonic versus all the others, particularly the GH6 really looks appealing to me. Thank you for this review!
Thank YOU 🙏🏻🎥 I hope it helps
S5 because its much cheaper than gh6 and about the image quality hardly anyone can find difference
I love the features on the GH6. It is an absolute BEAST of a micro 4/3 camera, but when you compare image quality alone, I don't think the GH6 can beat the S5.
I totally agree!
I have gh6 and S5... For video alone I prefer GH6. The image quality is superb on gh6, and the color is better, af is better and the image stabilization is better. I made ISO test, from 200 to 4000 iso I don't see any difference. And the lenses, full frame is so much expensive, not worth it..
@@Ciprian820918 Still preferring the GH6 for video ?
Need to decide: GH6 or S5
BTW: it's my first Lumix in either case
Interesting you didn't mention if you thought the price difference was worth it, at the moment the GH6 is £500 more if you buy each camera with their kit lens. Do you feel the GH6 is worth the extra? I am toying with moving to Lumix from Sony and love the look of the S5. I am leaning more towards the S5 as it is full frame and I will be mainly shooting low light music events so the extra noise from the GH6 would be an issue. The only thing that has me thinking now is the Auto focus on the GH6! Why is it never simple!
Hey, which way did you go? Agreed on pricing...I'm looking at used S5 and they are only £650, whilst GH6 is over 1k, so a huge price difference, more in line with S5 ii. Tempted to buy the cheap S5 and see how I feel about FF coming from GH5
Great video again man you really are good at these comparison videos, I feel I ramble too much lol. Oh and...........COME TO CHICAGO lol no rush whenever ya can 😆😂
Thanks brother! 🤩🙏🏻 you don’t ramble, I ramble! But I love cameras so it’s ok to ramble 😂 haha mate I’ll be there soon for sure! 💪🏻 thanks for watching
PS I did cut out sooooo much of me rambling 😂
I own the S5... but I'm stuck on what to get as a secondary camera for my podcasts.. But the Gh6 image is amazing
Run and gun, I would go gh6 (lighter lenses), but since I do more slow/planned videos, I will stick with the S5.
The gh6 is so bulky though. Holding both the s5 is smaller
Depends. Low light and depth of field S5. Anything else GH6.
Exactly! But with speed booster combined with FF lens, you get similar look of S5 with GH6
@@kayodeolaosebikan7462 ...yes, but at a much higher cost. The S5 in the UK is currently £1299 which includes a free 50mm 1.8 lens. The GH6 costs £1999 and then you have to purchase a speedbooster and a lens on top. The S5 is amazing value for a Full Frame camera.
I have always had micro 4/3 and I make videos (in the past I had two GH3), now I have many optics m4 / 3, G9 + GX80 and I waited for GH6 ... so I bought S5 ... because at the same price as GH6 I have bought S5 + 20-60mm + 85mm F1.8 used, finally I also added the 24mm F 1.8. The choice was to have a decisive step forward in the low lights and now the G9 + S5 pair is the top for me! in 2023 I will change G9 maybe with GH6 if it will cost a little less ...
i have a g7 so i guess im getting the gh6....lol plus i have a 12-35mm 2.8 POWER O.I.S lens..i can just use tht lens for the gh6 and BAM!!!
hi nice comparison. Are you also gonna compare the Gh6 with the S5ii?
To be honest, I thought about it but I don’t think it’s worth it. Just imagine better AF and a few other features. What are you leaning towards?
Hello, thanks for great and informative video. Just found your channel and subscribed it already.
Regarding the vlogging: I have GH6 with the 10-25 F/1.7 lense that makes excellent job. To be honest no difference between GH6 and S5 in wideness. So in this category both cameras do same job hence there is the weight difference :)
Thank you! 🤩🤩🎥
i have an S5, and i do not have a GH6, so this is pretty useless opinion, but the dynamic range thing, the dual native ISO on the S5 just gives me more confidence or "security" than the dynamic range boost of the GH6. i'm not sure if that's real, but just a "feeling" i have.
Definitely! 🎥
One thing that Sony has going for it besides great AF is all the lenses. I wish the S5 had more options.
Sony is garbage!
Fab review Sam , a ton of great information… now where’s my piggy bank haha GH6 one day I hope !
thankyou from morocco
"S5 is better for vlogging because 20mm on it is wider then 24mm on gh6"
This is a bit strange comparison 🙂
I have the GH6, S1 and G9. Using mostly Natural and CineD I always found the image coming from the GH6 a bit "plastic" when shooting faces and I just figured out why, the AF is not accurate ....
If the Panasonic S5 had unlimited recording in Super 35mm in 10 bit 4k then I would definitely choose the Panasonic S5
Yes! 💪🏻 you could get ninja V for continuous recording?
@@SamHolland Yeah I know but that would be an added cost
Or you could buy a S1.
there is big deffrence between them. The gh6 made for video( storytelling and filmmaking), but s5 made for( vlogging and photography) because it's full frame, and sensevty for lowlights because the sensor is bigger than gh6 that has 3/4 sensor and is also very good in lowlights, finely both cameras are amazing, and depending on what you want shooting for...👍👍👍
(3:40) The GH5m2 has basically the same AF system as the S5, only with µ4/3 sensor. I find it works remarkably well too, if not better. Recently added the 10-25mm/ 1.7 Leica, to complement a 17mm & 45mm 1.2 primes, with the 25-50mm/ f1.7 Leica on the way. The lens is incredibly sharp, and very adequate for low-light.
The S5 was not tempting enough just being full frame, and without the more complete range of video centric features found in the GH series. Since both the GH5m2/ S5 have the same Venus Processor, I expect future updates to apply equally, yet work more efficiently on the GH5m2 due to sensor size…
(9:40) If starting from scratch: I’d start with (2) GH5m2’s, The set of Leica’s and M.Zuiko Pro’s mentioned previously. At least one, if not two Atomos Ninja V’s, or (+). If necessary, either the Leica 25mm/1.4 or the M.Zuiko Pro 25mm/1.2.
Economical, Efficient, and very capable.
My main knock on the GH6, is lack of Battery Grip, especially since it drains power like a vampyre, and the choice to not have dual card slots that accept both CF Express and SDXC…
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I haven’t tested personally but believe the s primes f/1.7 are far sharper than the mfd equivalent lenses.
I like more S5, AF Is almost the same. I work in low light situation, so full frame should be better for me. I checked S1 video footage some days ago and I was impressed with the quality of the file an work easily in color grading. Not like to much 4-3 system. Both cameras need a good autofocus and Lumix will beat any brand on the market.
The main difference between them is in low light, but you didn't compare them. Why?
Until recently I had 2 gh5, and now I've switched to 2 pcs s5 I hope and I want it to be a good decision .. still I'm thinking of gh6 ... I wish I could shoot 4k50fps without cropping
You made the right choice.
2 x S5 is a great kit. Unless you need unlimited 4k recording and tiny lenses, the S5 will do just about everything the GH5 does with video but with better image quality, colour and low light performance.
Hello Sam , well if to choice right now , I will take the Panasonic S5 I prefer full frame , I'm not big fan of micro 4/3 . Great video Sam , big like 152 , sorry if I was late to much work , have nice week .
Thank you! 🙏🏻 haha no worries. You have a great week too
I’m about to get the GH6, but the side by side shot you had there when you compared the hightligh, the GH6 was extremely soft compared to the nice and crisp S5. Is this only due to the sensor or did you have something else going on in that shot?
It’s probably the sensor or lens to be honest. You could use 5.7k though or add a little sharpness. I like the softness of the GH6 but I guess it’s all personal taste.
Thanks for watching 🤩🙏🏻🎥
The camera was focusing on the colour card instead of the face
@@alexstevenscreativemedia ah! i see it now :)
Solid comparison video. You did mention that there is some noise in the GH6, but that is minimized with good lighting. What about if you're filming a night scene or with minimal lighting to evoke a mood? Would the GH6 still hold up or would you need something like the S5 to shoot that?
Hi Travis. Thank you! 🤩🙏🏻 yeh, you’d be fine to be honest. The S5 would be better but youd still be ok with the GH6. Solid camera! 🎥 just keep the iso low
I think the GH5s is probably the best Lumix camera for low light!
Slight misinformation here - you should have mentioned 4k 60fps when mentioning recording limits. S5 is only restricted in the top spec 4K mode and is also cropped too, making it basically APS-C.
ill take higher readout speeds/less rolling shutter over minuscule difference in DR anyday
I think I would still end up getting the S5 but man the GH6 does incredible stuff, and I loved the GH5 (currently using an R6 like you were before switching!). The colors out of it are so pleasing. I have more thinking to do than I thought!
All of them very nice cameras 🤩 let us know what you decide. 🎥
Having used M4/3 and Canon R full frame and now the S5 I wouldn’t go back to a smaller sensor. The S5 is just amazing!
I'd like to mention that the recording limits on the S5 are for 10-bit 4k and 50/60fps 8-bit 4k.
Thank you for your work. Would you recommend the GH6 or EOS R3 for video work? 60-70% vlogging and 30-40% client work (video and a little bit photo). Especially in terms of video quality and stabilizer / ibis (vlogging...)
Thank you for your help and feedback.
Hi. Thank you. I honestly can’t comment on the R3 because I’ve never used it but it’s quite large so probably not the best for vlogging in my opinion. I’d choose the GH6 BUT it’s cropped so you’d have to get a wider lens for vlogging. GH6 or S5 would be my options. GH6 has better AF though. Hope this helps 🎥🙏🏻🤩 thanks for watching
@@SamHolland Thank you very much 🙏
I do agree with your description of having two SD Card Slots but I like the CFExpress B cards because of faster transfer speeds. Unfortunately I believe that is one of the main symptoms that makes the Canon R5 overheat. R5c put a fan in but the battery life sucks! GH6 has the built in fan and it seems to me for a hybrid camera it is fantastic with IBIS and Power Boost Mode. The menu options are ridiculous but a well built all round camera in my opinion. But I like the price of the S5 with the kit lens. When I bought my first full frame camera it was the Nikon Z5. Price, and in my area that I live they had more lenses for that camera. The one thing that tipped the scales was the autofocusing. You make great videos. Stay Safe and Keep Smiling! Cheers!
An excellent comparison here Sam and lots of food for thought. My gh5s has served me well as a companion to my EVA1 and S5 and I've been on the fence about getting another S5 but this has swayed me to the gh6
Oooooo interesting! 🤩 let us know what happens. Thanks for watching 🙏🏻🎥
I own GH5 GH6 and S5ii.
Got a great deal to straight swap my GH6 to s5 + sigma 85mm f1.4.
A cam is S5ii + Lumix S pro 28-70
B cam S5 + sigma 85mm
C cam GH5 + speedbooster 18-35mm
Back up lenses.. Helios 44-2 58mm and Canon 16-35
What do you think? I shoot wedding videos, a little corporate and real estate
Great video. Thank you. Would you also compare these in terms of photography? Which is the better hybrid?
Thanks for watching 🤩🙏🏻 ah I’d love to but I’m afraid my photography skills are not worthy 😂 and I also no longer have the GH6. I’m sure they’re both great though
Having both, the S5 is far better. Also, right now the GH6 RAW files can't be used in most standard photo software. The S5 is pretty much the best hybrid on the market today (including the R5) and is certainly the best value.
The S5 doesn’t have a record limit when shooting in 24fps.
S5 is about 3/4 the price rn though🤷♂️
No no it's not because of your lens, the GH6 has really the best colors between every camera I have (GH5, S5, S1, S5II, G9II etc), skin tones are perfect.
I have gh5 already but feel like the lowlight is terrible so that's why I want a s5. But I just really want to vlog and stuff like gym videos going outside yk. Linda like jesse james west videos and david laid. No cinematography. But the s5 seems perfect. But maybe gh6 would be better or stick with gh5 idk I am just lost
stabiliZation is with Z my friend. Great video.
Great video Sam and brilliant to see an actual shooters opinion on both. 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks Chad 🤩🙏🏻🎥
Great video, but you do realize that for MFT cameras, a 12 mm for vlogging is 24mm equivalent? So you need a 10mm MFT lens to have the same FOV as the 20 mm FF lens. The IBIS is so much better in MFT so in actual fact, MFT wins for vlogging! I like the 10-25 1.7 Leica or the Laowa 10mm f2 (with electronic connectors!) for vlogging.
That's where the speedbooster 0.71 comes in...
Hi, I bought s5 but struggling how to zoom with app
I've got an S5 and am thinking of getting a second camera. Better auto focus is something I'd really like to have. I'm most interested in film making, including music videos. Also shooting films with live actors. I'm wondering if I should get a second S5 or the GH6 with better auto focus and IBS among other things. But then what about combining video shot with the two different sensor sizes. I'm a beginner. I'd be filming alone most of the time so put one camera on a tripod. I have a gimbal but want to play around with hand held as well. Should I go for another S5 or get a GH6? A big advantage of another S5 would be using the same lenses.
The GH6 is fantastic. I’d probably be tempted by that to be honest.
But it’s your choice at the end of the day. 🎥
Quick question then, regarding the memory cards, can you still record to the two card slots at the same time?
This is one of the most important things to me.
I am looking to upgrade to the GH6 and this is a deal breaker
Hi. Yes you can still record to both cards… BUT it depends which modes you’re using. If you’re using the modes that require the CFexpress then it may not write to the slower card but if you’re just using normal modes then it’ll be fine.
I don't prefer any of them.
1: I don't see any benefit of this video even I'm looking for a new camera as I would like to see whats the colours straight out of camera and settings on auto thats would tell me the colour science of camera
BH is selling for $300 off the S5... I think there's an mark ii coming soon
Such a great price. 👌🏻🎥
Full frame LUMIX S5 for photography. For video, GH6.
Do you think S5 a cam and GH6 b cam would be too annoying to match colours?
i dont think so
The GH6 looks like there is some kind of iPHONE haze face filter over it i notice it in all gh6 video. i prefure the look of the S5 alot better its more realistic and filmic
SPEEDBOOSTER on the gh6 is next level
The Leica lens defi added some warmth to the picture, and Youre the only one on youtube who prefers the image of the Gh6 over the S5.
They both look great in their own way I think. Still happy with the S5 but I do love the GH6 🤩🎥🙏🏻
The S5 has some unlimited recording modes.
i miss the lowlight comparison. but thx
Great video, it helped me get a better idea of which one to choose, however, I think you missed a very importart point, which is depth of field. I didn't really like the gh6 depth of field.
Glad this video helped 🙏🏻 yeh, full frame usually has a softer depth of field. But the GH6 image is so tempting 😍🎥 thanks for watching and commenting
Goid video but I think one HUGE think missed is 4k60fps - this is popular now and will only get more so so a big win to gh6 on this I think ?
Thanks Neil
The gh6 is amazing, that said, I would keep the S5. full frame is full frame! 🤷🏻♂️
Full frame!! 🤩🎥🎉
GH6
Id love you to do a v-log workflow on the GH6. I'm not a big grader but understand I would probably need to be shooting in v-log to get the best out of it.
At the moment I shoot Nikon flat profile and just tweek the footage - contrast saturation and maybe lift shadows.
I’ll work on it 💪🏻🤩🎥 to be fair, once you get used to it, it’s not that hard and you have so much more control. Stay tuned and thanks for watching
The GH6 looks better alot, but to be honest this could very well be due to the Leica lens... :D
You said gh6 dynamic range is a bit better. Is it with dynamic range boost on or off?
For some reason, the S5 footage just looks more cinematic than the GH6. It just seems like the GH6 has more of a "digital" look. Am I the only one who thinks this?
I felt the opposite lol
I agree
No I agree, the S5 has more dynamic range and has better colors. Look at the saturation in his had from both scenes. It’s definitely more color information from that full frame sensor. MFT have limitations and there’s no way around it.
I have a G9 and Pocket 4k and I’m definitely keeping my Pocket 4k but I’m selling my G9 for a S5!
I also felt the opposite
@@jayclas4023Use DR boost on the GH6....
S5 advantage over GH6 is better lowlight and DOF which can achieved on GH6 with speedbooster with FF lens. GH6 advantages over S5 are numerous of which some of them cannot be overcome. For me, I go for GH6. THANKS FOR THE NICE VIDEO
Thank YOU 🤩🙏🏻🎥
Speedbooster with full frame, the way to go...
From a videographers point the GH6 is better, for photographers definitely the S5!
Hi Sam, Do you know about lens adapter from Micro Four Thirds to L-mount
Hi Ervin. I honestly don’t know that much about adapting lenses BUT DSLR video shooter did a video all about lens adapters on RUclips so I’m guessing he’ll have all the answers to your questions 🤩🙏🏻🎥 hope that helps. Let me know what you find out
Probably s5 is best ibrid photo video