The DJI drone ban - the latest (as of 12 June, 2024)
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- Here is the latest news regarding attempts to ban DJI drones in the USA on the grounds of "security". Is the truth being told, will this bill sail through the house and the senate thanks to some cunning manipulation and what will it mean for DJI drone owners. Will other DJI products be affected? Could any good at all come from this ban?
I will do my best to keep everyone informed as to the progress of this proposal as it is considered by The House and Congress and I hope lessons will have already been learned about the dangers associated with leaving the protection of our hobby up to others.
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Thx Bruce 👍 At 71, I can say things are not what they used to be here in the US.
Same here in the UK.
No the USA is garbage now. It's a corporate capitalist wasteland where the name of the game is cannibalize your neighbors in every way except literally. I hate this planet.
Yup! Welcome to the current USA . Too many noses where the sun doesn't go. I'm only 26 seconds in. Now for the rest.
And getting worse every day.
Trump and his cult are intent on destroying the country to protect him from prison. Traitors, all of them.
Bought my DJI more than 10 years ago. Public sentiment has always been against quadcopters, in spite of the fact that they are one of the most significant advances in aviation. Idiotocracy is here to stay.
“Yes we told a lie, but *YOU* shouldn’t be telling people we told a lie”
Perfectly encapsulates so many things in life.
DJI is not totally unthreatening. They sided with Russia in Ukraine ruclips.net/video/hCkbhvRdN24/видео.html
What's the deal with governments being run by spiteful adult sized children these days?
They are elected and appointed by a society of spiteful adult sized children.
It is a big problem in a lot of countries now, the whole government of many countries needs reformed, the USA is just a particularly bad case of it. All political options are bad so people are forced to vote for the best out of a bad lot, I can say here in the UK lots of people don’t like any of the political parties and don’t feel that any party actually stands for what the public want. Then once a party is in power they have their term to do whatever they want, regardless of what they promised and regardless of what the public actually want.
There is no easy way to fix this but something needs to change. Political parties are just like playground gangs full of career politicians that are only interested in feeling important and lining their pockets. They make laws and regulations on topics they know nothing about after consulting “experts” that often don’t know what they are talking about either. The whole system needs torn down and redone. We need politicians that actually want to serve the country and it’s people, we need actual experts making the laws and regulations and we need more choice, we need more control over what happens. What we don’t need is to be controlled by politicians that most people didn’t want to vote for but had no better choice, we don’t need politicians that think of themselves as above everyone else and we definitely don’t need people who are clueless telling us what we can and can’t do.
We may have democracy in theory but do we really? When we have very limited choices and no ability to do anything about that and that is the only decision we get to make. Again the USA is a very bad case, only two main presidential candidates but the UK isn’t much better with only two main parties.
If anyone cares to look closely enough, they will see that every western government now has MADE IN CHINA stamped on it. Global authoritarianism is here.
It's not "the government", it's the local council. Local government is frequently run by overtly terrible people because only a few also terrible local people care. Ask an American: they love whining about "the gubernment" but they all live in corrupt states with corrupt local law enforcement, bent sherrifs, bought representatives etc etc. There's a whole world of disgusting corruption and idiocy ruining lives and almost no-one knows or cares - they're all so caught up in national politics, and everyone loves complaining but no-one does a damm thing about it. Ask anyone whining in this comment section if they even vote in local elections: probably not, and if they do they probably just vote according whatever their dumb national team loyalty is. It's crazy. Local politics is where small numbers of people can actually drive positive change, and yet it's a wasteland, which leaves it to the nasty little bastards who mess with people like Bruce to set the agenda. Humanity is a joke. A noisy, whining, lazy joke.
Because no sane person enters politics...
It's amazing how well you're doing with your Parkinsons, after announcing having it way back in 2007. Incredible.
Ah... you don't get to see the "bad days". Having said that, I am doing much better than I expected but it's taking a lot of hard work to stay on top of things. Exercise, proper diet and trying lots of different things (to see what works) seems to be the way forward for the time being.
@@xjet all ailments are individual.
Also, just because YOU don't use DJI doesn't mean you're safe... They'll come for your Chinese made parts next. (it's already in the works, folks.)
I’m brand new to the drone community. This man is on point with his commentary. Absolutely pull a page out of the 2A playbook. It’s not about drone control, its about all control.
The rc hobby should just ban the faa from rc aircraft control they are for manned aircraft not us
Sadly, they're for air space.
They are "airspace" control, not "aircraft"
@@ChainsawFPV ya I am I pilot I do know that but clearly they are not for us drone operators
What exactly is the problem with flying at Tokoroa airport ? Has your antagonism of the council got it banned ? It’s looks like a great place to fly compared to what most of us have.
@@kerrymillar4981 Heck even the AMA does not seem to be on our side :(
Interesting this is the first video covering the topic after the bill went through this morning. And it’s from a creator not from the US haha good video though. What you are saying is very true. Pisses me off the government thinks they can do whatever they want with no repercussions.
First they came for DJI...
And then nobody put on their FPV goggles
Autel will be next.
Next thing you know it will be iPhone
Next will be twitter and TikTok
@@LobstersLobstersautel won’t be next, they could care less about autel. Their drones are trash.
Good to see you back, hope your wife is getting better, keep up the great work. Your tenacity and diligence is admirable. Cheers M
I've had my finger on the "Buy" button quite a few times. Thank You, Sir !!!
The joke here has always been; How do you know a politician is lying? Their lips are moving.
They all lie they just was dji out so they want us to buy American made drones there is no leak from dji it's bs
Or their fingers as well. Typing.
99% of them lie. A used car salesman that has a nicer title.
I thought it was when I am elected I am going to……..
Apple is putting AI on iphones soon. Which requires video and audio be continuously transmitted. Where are iphones made?
Obviously the US embassy in China.
@@namedperson1436 😆
Bs!
California
@@Robocopter_fpv 🌝
The world is getting darker. You are correct it's about money and power and a world filled with sheeples.
RIP Michael Moseley
Most people who make comments like this do not have any understanding of China or the CCP.
For one, why would you want to use a product from a company that has been involved with human rights violations?
@@Goat.Herder You buy any American or Israeli products? So then, you are complicit as well imho.
@@Goat.Herder😂 bro we all live in countries that don’t give a fk about human rights! 😅
@@Goat.Herder Okay, let's start with America: The American Indian People and it still goes on today, the horrors suffered by Vietnamese and Viet Cong, the suffering caused by the covert bombing of Cambodia, the uncovered torture in Guantanamo Bay and there is also the shooting down of a commercial plane flying out of Iran and the killing of Afghanistan wedding guests and those delivering water containers (as the last American planes withdrew). And on and on and on. So do I stop buying American products?
Lot's of countries have a history of Human Rights Violations. But some don't seem to learn when they should STOP! Aye.
@@Goat.Herder Every country has a past history of Human Rights abuse. With your attitude, you would never be able to buy anything.
Bruce, you are absotively and posilutely correct!
I served the Civil Air Potrol (C.A.P) This has came out of my pocket,to assist onothers in desperate times,of need.
Great to see you back on the tube 👌.. Wow on the local council BS and much the same with the DJI thing.. :/ its a sad,sad world we're slowly turning into :(
I'm a freestyle pilot from Idaho USA (Jeronimo FPV, like and sub 😂) I've been researching jumping into agricultural drone spraying, setup and ready to go by next growing season. It appears extremely viable for a business in my area but this ban would kill that industry. I'm glad I'm hearing about this now instead of investing 50k plus to get started and not being able to produce 😳
There's always Yamaha's R-Max and Fazer helicopters for doing that work. Made in Japan, so you'll have no issues flying one with Chinese made IC's doing all the number crunching.
We as "the people" need to stop letting them control our lives and any harmless thing that we do. Also, you do not need wifi to fly with dji drones like the mini 4 pro. It's only needed for initial setup. The information needed is very, very minimal and non invasive. This has greedy politicians and lies written all over it.
@PiDsPagePrototypes thanks for the info, I've always been a drone guy so I really wasn't thinking about helis. I'll check it out!
A coworker recently bought a big ag-drone made by DJI for spraying. He's going to be out like 12k if this ban happens. The a-holes in congress better pay him back for it.
@jasonhurdlow6607 yeah it's bad, was looking at 50k for next spring but I'm not buying anything yet because of the possible ban. I'll get all my licensing done, hopefully they have it worked out by years end. I think I could crush it in my area, zero competition
In Oz we have had several cases of the state government shutting down corrupt local councils. Its also the police who decide who to arrest, no one in Australia can ask the police to arrest someone. Good luck mate we are behind you. As a retired electronics engineer of some 50 years some in the defence force ,run by an officious burocracy and clerks, I understand your frustration.
How they could make it beneficial - force DJI to allow their products to be used with no network connection or app. They even require registration for their gimbal cameras FFS!
Good to see you back!
From what I have read, it appears that this only counts for DJI products going forward and getting new approvals. It shouldn't affect all current products that have previously had approval. Hope this helps. Put government in its place, under a boot. Because if you're not stepping on their balls, they will step on yours.
If this bilI goes through I wouldn't be surprised if Australia & NZ will follow suit eventually.
UK as well after all our chancellor of the exchequer who is a WEF shill has a wife and sister who work for the CCP. Go Communism eh, disgusting world full of corporate criminal gangsters
No, not in NZ, the free trade agreement we have with China is worth too much!
Everything the U.S does, Canada does.
Same in the U.K. mate 👍
If it fails in America, it will be put in place in Australia.
Not related to the topic, but for someone who has been occasionally watching you since about 2013, you are somehow ageing backwards... Good stuff Bruce.
Also, thats for keeping us up to date on the news.
I'm sure filmmakers will sue to have this overturned. So many companies have invested in DJI, including farmers and builders.
Please contact your representatives and tell them that this is unacceptable. I cannot imagine a world without DJI equipment.
I feel your pain man, My wife & I have 6 DJI drones, & I just ordered an Autel Evo Lite Plus Premium Bundle yesterday. This bill is as un-American as it comes.
@@johnmajka5404 Hey John thanks for sharing your story. I almost bought an Autel about a year ago to avoid the geo-fence issue, but just didn't pull the trigger. Can't image a world without quality aircraft to fly. Hopefully we'll get some relief or a young MIT student will start an American Drone company. thx...
The FCC does not want to attempt to enforce this do they? They can’t possibly have the resources to attempt to track down DJi users even if the fines were profitable? Do they?
Also, drones are so scary but we can still buy Chinese cell phones.
We still buy chinese everything because it is cheap. It’s illogical for the FCC to remove the certification anyway. The devices passed FCC certification, if they still pass certification and haven’t been caught doing anything to violate the law and regulations then how can they remove the certification? It makes no sense. Why remove a technical certification that the device still passes just because politicians don’t like China?
Isn’t it strange that no evidence of any of these claims towards DJI have been released? It would be a very easy way to get the public on their side. No evidence from the government or third party security researchers. Why?
First responders act is worse that bans not only dji drones but anything for a drone from China meaning all Chinese electronics related to drones. It starts by charing us $100 on top of a 30% tariff for every part!
Goes to show, the US is rapidly moving towards "Idiocracy"!
your local council is appalling with drones they are such a pain to work with for anything within the 4km
This just goes to show just how short sighted these politicians really are. What about all the other items made in China? Like ovens, clothes dryers, washing machines, refrigerators that are made in China and use wifi?
It’s not about dji, and has even less to do with china. it’s just about the drones. And control
@@a1ankaymusic it’s more likely that someone wants the drone market cleared in the US, especially considering DJI is the main player in the drone market.
You mean every item from Walmart?
And Mozilla just uncovered all the modern electric/hybrid vehicles, that listen in to the conversations via the on board microphones and use that data for the car manufacture's business. What about cellphones? Big Brother is already here, they just never let you know.
There is no ban. It's a _proposed_ ban on government use.
Good to see you’re still kicking the can, missed your insight!
I just purchased an Avata 2 today to do some indoor video for my real-estate friends. Thank you for all you do!!!!!
10 years from now we will be saying "Who thought it would apply to...(insert latest tech here)"
Thanka Bruce, hope you're doing okay mate.
All the best from Australia
Good to see you again pal, I can't make it every Tuesday because of work.
Hi Bruce, Great video and rant.I am not positive yet, but during the video I tried to launch my mini v1 with no luck. It asked if I would like to update my drone, so I said No ! I normally don't have any issues, but I do now. I'll try again tomorrow in a different area, I will let you know what happens. Thanks again for the video and information.
Cheers Bruce, you are on the right side and the council isn't. 👍💪✌
Hey Bruce! Love to see you posting! Hope to see you again soon! Cheers!
Bruce,its great to see you back.I have been flying my model airplane,no remote ID,no problems.
Towards the end of your post you finally hit the nail on the head, thank you sir!
Thanks for your efforts.
Please keep shouting the message.
I suggest paranoia is more at play than manufacturers' money.
God help them (us)
if 🍊 happens. Best wishes from UK
I've just bought a Mini 4 Pro Fly More - arrived today. UK. Good luck banning me using it in Britain.
Derb, let’s hope nobody uses a dji mini to drop an egg on Farage, or it will soon catch on. 🥴
If dji is indeed banned, you won’t have a choice. These drones depend on gps and connections that require authentications and certifications on a continuous basis. Think of it as sending data back and forth. They will no longer have those authorizations and you literally wouldn’t be able to fly them. Enjoy your mini 4 pro while you can, it won’t happen overnight and would take some time anyway even after the ban goes through
@@a1ankaymusic the drones are more capable of operating without those things than you think. The drones can work without GPS already and with no connection to anything other than the controller.
What signals or communications are you on about?
Thanks Bruce....always appreciate your efforts. 🎉 regards
Great job XJet !!! Great to see you back !!! 😉🙃😎😊
right on Bruce you nailed it
From my research DJI has licensed out an exact copy of the Mavic 3 i believe to Anzu Drones which would technically get around this ban. they are made in Malaysia and the company is based in Texas.
The difference is they have licensed the hardware. The software is all written by the Texas portion I believe.
All they have to do if they have a legitimate reason to ban DJI drones is to release proof that DJI is doing what they claim they are or could be, that would turn most people over to their side. However they have released no proof and no third party security firm or security researcher has released any proof either. With how common these drones are now then surely a security researcher could buy one and check if it was doing anything dodgy. Very strange how there is no proof from anywhere that DJI drones are spying on people.
Sadly people are money driven. I bet the majority that are against the DJI ban would flip for xx amount of money. What you need $10k? $100k? $1M? Name your price!
Until the majority realize that character should not be sold, most of us will continue to live a declining standard of living. Plain and simple just like nature.
Certification means it meets the standards- is there any precedent for revoking approvals on gear that meets the standards? Seems like a massive lawsuit would result if they did that.
I thought the same as you but if you read the FCC documentation it's clear that the certification is done not only on a technical basis (bandwidth, power, spurious emissions etc) but also on the basis of national security so there is provision in the statutes to allow this. Crazy!
Thank you for making this video! I hope there is light at the end of the tunnel, sad times for RC.
Very good breakdown of some of the inconsistancies. As a Canadian, it does look like an opportunity to start a tiny drone manufacturing business and refuse to ship to the USA.
You’re completely right. It’s nuts.
Good stuff Bruce 👍🇬🇧
I agree 100% it's about money because of it was about national security then phones TVs gaming systems and many other things would need to be banned too... And I couldn't agree more about the Amazon birds
Seriously, don’t your local officials have better things to do than harass you? This should be a huge lawsuit for you with lots of money paid out
Total 100 truth thank you !
Ah Bruce is back. Glad you are well. I have some of those HobbyKing transmitters still 😂
Already I’m selling
G off 3 DJI Drones. You are correct all DJI Bans
Will be illegal to fly FCC .
I know several people making their living using DJI quads to record things for TV and cinema, not sure what they will do if this passes.
Bruce.. love the passion keep it up…
You may have forgot, that March regarding RID was during the “flatten the curve” BS during Covid.. travel restrictions
Bruce, I hadn’t flown my DJI Mavic Mini in a while, the new “security” updates are becoming more restrictive ! 😢
Good thing in New Zealand only drones over 25kg have to be registered. A DJI ban is unlikely here in NZ, the second highest diplomat, Premier Li Qiang , is currently visiting to strengthen trade ties between NZ and China. The free trade agreement is worth too much to ban Chinese products here!
Shouldn't we be focused on the horrid economy and crime instead??
Excellent video. Thank you.
Thanks, appreciate it!
Happy Flying
Great video. I unfortunately purchased a DJI 4 months ago. Love the drone, just a hobby and I have never flown one before and it is really a lot of fun for me. Very disappointing that the US government is going down this road. I looked at several manufacturers before I made the purchase and DJI seems to have an amazing product for the price. iPhones that are made in China should be more of an issue considering how many are out there and the ability a smart phone has to collect an enormous amount of data. I realize Apple is not a Chinese company but still seems like it would be more of a concern. Really appreciate the information.
Made it China but does not have Chinese hardware/chip
One clarification is that the ban won't impact existing drones that have already received FCC approval.
Thank you for your insight, you’ve gained a subscriber
You're awesome, Bruce! Keep safe, keep well. 👍
keep the video's up ! loving drone work as a drone pilot !
Remember that the US banned Cadbury's chocolate. This is because Cadbury's tastes better than Hersheys. Hersheys didn't like the competition so got the government to ban it. They used some spurious copyright claim, but we all know it's about the money.
At times I’ve felt tempted to get a dji drone. At this moment I’m glad I didn’t.
They may sky rocket in value 😁
San Diego, California. I'll let you fly my Avata 1
Where you at? Somebody will help you get high!
@@RUSTY93 lol
Hi Bruce, it is not just about the hobby. We are al being caged. Al over the world. Now there is bird fly just like they tried covid. Ww3 in Ukraine etc. Cloud seeding (chem trails) messing with our food etc. We al need to stand up for all our right. Not just this hobby stuff, all the rights that are slowly taken away.
Hey Bruce, I believe your analysis is spot on. The biggest question is, will people get off their backside and legally, peacefully do something about it? We will see.
correct.
USA policy to punish China 🇨🇳
pretty mean, after all the
money invested into
DJI products.
Thank you!!
OHH SHHHHT,,, I LITERALLY ASKED THAT QUESTION THIS MORNING ON PAUL MURRAY'S SHOW--- IF THE MIC'S WOULD BE BANNED AS WELL!!!!!
I'm based in Australia and I own a dji gimble and a dji drone and if I took that equipment to the USA I would not be able to use it. It would be illegal to use it.
The problem is the government has us so busy working to earn a living, we don't have time to attend protests. If we were on welfare and disability, then we'd have the time, but then we wouldn't want to bite the hand that was feeding us. They've got it figured out either way.
There is much truth to what you said. Distract us from the real issues as all kinds of skullduggery goes on right under our noses.
this summerizes the cost of freedom! is it really freedom? slavery in the modern age!
It's them Roman's that started it. You can see why Jesus had a go at the markets, knocking over tables. He could see 'the love of money' blinding the owners. And that has grown so big today, that the love for the money means, they just can't let it go.
The 'hanging on' to the hugh reserves, is not letting it 'work' for everyone. Only for the owners to get richer.
Prying cash out of their tight fists means their mental state is not to be humble and grow more businesses that employ people or give to charities to help the needy, rather it's like Scrooge McDuck, never wanting to spend a penny. The Roman system and taxation has done it's dash. It's now out of date.
cheers Bruce :)
People are saying this for 3 years now and they still get drones delivered in the US.
11:10 sounds like the Australian car industry... And then they all 'moved away' and we are still stuck with the laws etc that were set up ( means high prices and bad "Quality control" ).
Thanks Bruce
Great video dude 😁
I think people don't demonstrate because they don't care, the majority of fpv videos I see the pilot already flies illegale because of spotter requirement.
My left shoe identifies as a spotter
Absolutely Bruce: yet another comments section full of people complaining but doing absolutely nothing. It's the modern way.
Tbh Russia has been carefully amplifying this for years (believe in nothing, be powerless), but that's not an excuse for people to be so hopelessly angry but also lazy.
Funny that Rotor Riot got bought out by a defense contractor, then this bill gets slipped into the Defense Budget Act. This should be a standalone bill, not attached to something that will definitely be passed. Follow the money
Rotor riot😂😂😂😂😂😂there nothing.
❤ Stay fit, Bruce. ❤
I LIVE, NERE THE Gulf of Mexico. THERE HAS BEEN MANY TIME'S NEEDED FOR SURCH FOR Rescue. Expecialy Land .Humans and Animal's.
Great video, thanks!
Thanks for doing this. I have always been hesitant to buy a drone because of the regulations.
that's going to cause a spike in walksnail and hdzero purchases until they realize that WS and HDZ are also made in china...
I love your at the beach example , thats exactly what I do I chase surfers
Good video my friend!
THIS IS REAL SHHHH RIGHT HERE!!!!!
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Sounds like someone is making illegal threats. Gotta love politicians.
I can understand revoking the FCC certification for New DJI Drones... But my Drone was Certified when I bought it years ago.
I can't see them not allowing older Already Certified DJI drones from flying. My Certified DJI drone doesn't have a "yearly" re-certification requirement.
There is nothing to understand.
@@cipri198zero Guess you missed the point...
The problem is DJI just hasn't donated to enough to the DNC and the RNC ...
Microsoft learned the hard way too.... now they give and give and give