The Truth About DJI's Data Security
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- These data and security claims against DJI are completely false. In this video, we will take a first hand look at what data DJI even needs from you when setting up and account and flying one of their drones.
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Timestamps:
00:00 - What's happening?
00:49 - Who makes the most popular and capable drones?
02:22 - What Info Does DJI Need When Making an account and setting up a drone?
10:46 - Do you even need a WiFi connection to fly?
11:53 - What is DJI's stance on data collection and sharing?
21:38 - Final thoughts
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I will never give Skydio any of my money no matter what sector I work in. Skydio is one of the big drivers of this legislation. Stinks of conflict of interest.
Agreed 💯👍
If skydiving can't compete they should either step up their game or quit, not ban the best in the world.
Same with me for two reasons. 1) their products are frankly shit. 2) their conduct absolutely stinks.
Agreed
Same exact situation as a decade ago when EU decided to outright ban every Chinese-imported solar panel.
Guess why they did that?
Because they were "too cheap" so local EU solar companies couldnt compete..
We could have had our entire cities caked in affordable solar panels by now. But profits were more important than energy (or the environment).
Called my Congressional Rep’s office this morning. Ive written her before, but this is too important not to do everything possible. Thanks for making this video Billy.
Update: called my senators office also. Hope something comes of it.
they probably don't care
@@XdekHckrmy rep cared. His office emailed back saying he would not support the ban unless someone could provide evidence of illegal information collection and so far no one has provided that evidence.
They absolutely most likely haven't flown a drone once. And they definitely don't care what we say
@@kurtzFPV who is your rep?
@@AlanzFPV Maxwell Frost Florida District 10
21:55 spot on, Billy. Skydio is salty they couldn’t hold a candle to DJI, and “if you can’t beat ‘em, ban ‘em”
They blame DJI but No one questioned the remote ID devices collecting every flight data...
Think the issue is its allll sent back to china and dji is now part of the Chinese government even though its not government owned at all. Ccp
Most of the Senators' offices have email detection set up that alerts them when the email they receive comes from one of these websites. Email them directly. The direct emails are the ones they actually look at. The automated messages get ignored almost entirely.
When you updated the FW for any device you have no idea what changes are being made. and what data is being sent to the update server.
Where's your Network sniffer? Your packet inspector? Where are those flight logs stored? Backed up to?
Are they uploaded to the cloud? Just because a screen says it's not occurring doesn't mean that's true.
Right, I think Billy should have an expert on who understands more in depth what to look for.
I had Vic Moss on my live stream yesterday and he said Tuesday is truly the deadline to contact your Senators so please do so politely and let your voice be heard
Hello Billy. This was well done! It is really sad and pathetic to see DJI competitors go to this extreme to eliminate them from the American drone market. Not surprising though. Human behavior and selfishness is downfall to most if not all things here on earth. I believe there will be some folks that will go rogue and try to hack their DJI aircraft in some way or fashion if our government actually bands DJI drones completely. Time will tell.
Remember, he speculated that, it's not a fact and it absolutely could be a ban due to national security and not the selfish personal market. This video comes off as whining about losing access to their device. I do not trust the CCP to not watch drones when they are near targets of interest. The expert was laughable.
Show me just 1 piece of evidence for the claims about DJI.... Just 1.
Stefanik is a clown the person who introduced the bill.
@@davidalanmedia Fully agree, but would love to see the FW logs just in case...
X37B, Countless DOD space missions, S71 were just collecting pretty pictures, The China spying via DJI drones is pure bs. the SR 71 50 years ago could distinguish objects 6 inches apart from 80,0000 feet. Do you think the US might have improved its spying tech over the last 50 - 60 years?
This is 2024, evidence means nothing.
Why does the customer have to connect to the web if information is not being collected?
Great video Billy. Good luck on Wednesday from across the pond in London, England.
Thanks for stepping up for our community. I've called and emailed my Senators and Representative. Hopefully all of our friends in the industry and recreational communities do the same.
Great video, when will the lawyers step in to stop these false accusations and prove that these people don't know what they are talking about and that they have connections with for example Skydio, among others.
I've written 3 times to that drone advocacy alliance. I don't know if it's going to make any difference, but yeah.
Thanks for sharing Billy. Great way to show the people that are saying we share data that goes to China. I just really hope that we can make a difference.
Thanks again 👍 👍 👍
Great video Billy! We appreciate the deep dive into the setup process. I hope this helps those who are anti-DJI and those in legislation, to gain a better understanding and have a different perspective that ultimately reverses the ban efforts.
You’re the best. Thank you for all you do.
11:08 don't forget about flysafe updates and about need of using internet when using RTK
True about RTK. However, we can always download updates to a microSD card and install them from there.
It is ironic how the same ban that is being applied to Chinese EV’s is being proposed for Chinese drones. In both cases, the motivation seems to be, the inability of American companies to compete. I don’t support the DJI drone Ban. And I guess, 0:10 extension, I don’t support a Ban on Chinese EV’s. Let the companies with the best technology win!
Great information as usual, thanks
CORRECTION: we do need to connect our DJI controller to the internet in order to ‘unlock’ the drone due to DJI’s geofencing program. If they eliminate that then we would only have to connect to the internet when we first activate the drone.
Exactly what I said
well you can buy use mod that allows you to fly in no fly zones and so on
Great video BK!!
Thank Billy for all your videos .
I'm asking, that the FAA are continuing billing for inscribing our drones in their data base. What happens if the ban progress. What going to happen with all the money that we paid for our inscription especially with DJI drones. That's the question.
AGAIN THANKS FOR ALL YOUR CONTENT
Thank you for putting this video together! I have shared on social and sent the email. I will also call.
BK dropping knowledge while Supercharging.
Best Buy will charge you a restocking fee.....Amazon does not charge a restocking fee but they have UPS pick-up at your door on the next business day. Amazon will not let you drop off at a UPS store for a return.
Thanks ❤
I wish I had known about this before I bought my avata a few months ago. It’s my first drone and a blast to fly. There’s not a lot of pressure that can be brought to congress by so few people. I don’t know any other drone owners except the ones I see on utube. I’m new to drone world but I don’t see any other companies with good drones that I don’t need to get a second mortgage to afford. I was thinking about getting a drone with thermal cameras to help find the old people who get lost here in the woods of northern Maine on a fairly regular basis. I guess that’s not going to be an option now
Love the hoodie
Outro music reminded me I was watching a happy BK video! Just cut everything except the last ten seconds. Peace!
If you only need an internet connection to set up the drone, how do the geofences work then? You're telling me, once I set up the drone, I never have to update it or connect to the internet? 🤔 Anyone?
There's a lot of information about the ban he just straight ignores. A ton of drones around the country made by the CCP has a lot more issues than one business trying to ban DJI but influencers are shills and I bet this guy got paid to make this video by DJI
The map of restricted geo zones is in the drone's memory. It doesn't need a real-time data link. Even if you don't own a drone yet you can get the DJI Fly app and check out the map showing the red, restricted zones (prisons, airports etc.), the blue 'authorization' zones (permission needed - okay, yes, an internet connection IS needed to get a three day 'license' to unlock these areas.)
Another commenter noticed that a 30 day timer seems to disable the remote controller, requiring you to 'phone home' (connect to DJI's servers) but I don't remember it needing to do that before 'Remote ID' was implemented.. Anyone?
So yes, you and others caught a few things Billy might have missed.
DJI will fully unlock their drones for government agencies (but I didn't tell you that ;)
@@jmadison9990 thank you for your reply 👍!!
@billykyle The bad thing is like you said, the American built drones are STRICTLY for recreational use, they are indeed too toylike. I bought one at Toys R Us (back when it was open) when I wanted to learn and teach myself how to fly a drone. As I got more serious about drones, I bought a Yuneec Q500 4K (another company based in China). And as I got more into drones, the name DJI kept popping up. After research and seeing the camera quality, I decided to get one from DJI. And it's awesome!! It's a shame that these claims are most likely from an agenda to lodge the company from dominance in the market. But I thought this is America, where free market is king. American companies need to up their game, to create bigger and better drones for professionals, prosumers and recreational users. It will be interesting to see what happens today. Thanks Billy for a great video regarding the matter, from the DJI usage perspective
Great walk through of how set up a new DJI drone without sharing all your data to a server somewhere in the world., if choose not to not to share. I hope are lawmakers are up to speed on all the facts of how this DJI ban will affect millions of users, before they vote, Thanks for sharing, Billy.
Does it work the same way with the air 2s? With our phones.
Billy, if you turn your logo 90 deg counterclockwise, it looks like a drone!
dont you have to connect to the internet once a month? because it signs you out of your account from not using it ?
Since when have legislators given a flying flip about what the citizens think? Face it, no matter what we say, the bill will pass.
Great explanation, Billy, but you did not mention that we do have to log on the internet to get permission from DJI to fly due to their GeoZones, very common here in the DFW area.
Have we seen any update on what the legislative bills pose to the non-DJI brands?
I was under the impression this ban included DJI (and focused on) but also includes brands that are “not American made” or “not USA manufactured.
Thank you ahead of time!
DJI always had strict data policy, I wished they'd automatically upload my flight log after my phone broke and i lost some of my precious data... You really have to upload it yourself every single time...
Hey Billy is any way we can help from our side kindly lets us know as we all araound the world dont want this to escalate , we all love and share a great expirience with DJI and we want to stay doing it, we hope for the best ... greetings
What charger is that?
I just purchased the osmo pocket 3. Will this affect me as well from being able to use it? Anyone??
We don't know for sure but there is talk that it may make it's way to all DJI products (drone or not)
Chinese are listening in on you😮😂
how come the timezone EST aint available to select from in the menu? Check that again. Thats odd.
It shows up as "eastern time" at exactly 7:00 into the video. He missed it.
Same, called all my reps and senators.
Evidence of false claims?
I reached out to my senator Joni Ernst. She replied, twice, with "We don't use drones for military action against civilians." What a joke.
That's brilliant!
11:43 I have never been able to fly my dji drones in Los Angeles without connecting to the internet.
Honestly depends where you are
I think that's due to local geo laws the drone needs a map update. But you can download you're map from home on you're wifi then turn wifi off once done
It's just hilarious that USA of all places are complaining about "personal information" required for the DJI drones.
When its all just an email adress, which could be a throwaway email....
Meanwhile USA mandates remote-ID (which dji themselves tried to OPPOSE), which transmits your full information, real name, home adress, phone number, gps coordinates of your controller (you) location in realtime everytime you fly anywhere..
It's just beyond comical the insanity at display.
Very True, when it comes to innovation of privacy, the US is as bad as China.
@baleur - that is not correct. RID does not broadcast personal identification, only information about the drone and the location of the controller. From the FAA documentation:
From takeoff to shutdown, the drone broadcasts:
n Drone ID (serial number)
n Drone location and altitude
n Drone velocity
n Control station location and elevation
n Time mark
n Emergency status
I'm in the UK and just bought my first drone - mini 4 pro. No such bullshit here - yet. If that ban does go through though, one mass litigation against your idiots. Sorry, I meant government, to pay all DJI owners compensation and all owners must sign up to it. Strength in numbers? Good luck guys
5:33 this is where your data starts to go out de window
I agree with the video. I think all the users of DJI should be aware of the security that is provided by DJI is safe for them and be aware of the politics that is going on which has really no transparency showing that they have found some insufficient security in DJI. It is all politics for promoting the comprehensive have no technological excellence and can't find away to win the market. I wouldn't trustSkydio. I called them a year ago to find d their pricing plan and it took such a long time to get the details. And in few month they dropped their consumer drone line. How can we trust Skydio on the long-time support. On the other hand DJI is coming out with the newer software and hardware every year. I think there should a legal way to challenge this bill. The public representative should be more transparent to the people who they represent and not to the comprehensive funded their elections. It is just disgusting and disappointing on the pub!if representative who are sitting in for us. I am with DJI and I hope everything goes right way at the end. The truth should win and not the politics.
Hey Billy, first off I thank you for the video as always. Is it true that the ban would also include DJI Mics and DJI cameras too? Also the CEO of Skydio is the head of the ADA so that looks to be a big reason they are using false claims to blanket ban DJI.
yea, it is basically fearmongering for capitalism and the fact dji mics and cameras are being banned too (they are) shows how BS this is
From what I read, DJI would be banned from receiving any new FCC licensing, which would basically stop anything new from being introduced. They could even ban existing licensing but that seems less likely.
@@tomn8trI heard the same thing was hoping it was wrong and maybe Billy knew. This whole thing is unbelievably ridiculous can't believe it got this far. Thank you for an answer.
oh, FCC (Federal Communications Commission) the radio frequency spectrum regulators. At first glance I confused it as FAA.
Wow, everybodys getting in on this fight.
Thank you for your service sir, I appreciate the vid and the interview. I feel like a lot of this China stuff is a front, it must tie into the FAA just not wanting people to fly drones in general except for the big companies that they except from all the rules. You might ask how the two is related and the answer is the classic USA answer: lobbying lol
What are the claims though? That DJI shares your email adress or your flight logs?
That really wouldnt be very useful, apart from showing squiggly lines concentrated over tourist areas on the map.
The real thing that is being insinuated to scare people, is the fantasy of "omg DJI tracks everything the camera records and sends back to CCCP in realtime".
Because that's the one thing that would ACTUALLY matter, right?
That is, physically impossible, by the laws of electromagnetism...
Are these people actually thinking that the drone or controller radio transmitter is powerful enough to connect to a satellite in orbit for a 1080p realtime video feed?
Or are they actually living in the fantasy of thinking every consumer DJI drone has a secret quantum-tunneling device installed that relays back video footage directly to China via quantum entanglement?
I mean can we just openly talk about this?
Because if we openly talk about this, you realize how batshit insane the claims are.
Thats why the push on this has been so vague to just say "data security concerns".
"The Chynese are SPYIN on us". Okay, how exactly? Tell me how it specifically would work.
If you actaully ask how it would physically happen, the whole fantasy falls apart.
Billy nice having someone on from dji. This, I believe, is just political nonsense. I am in the uk, but I'm watching to see what develops as it will impact more than just America
Can someone or some of these people be sued for false accusations, forcing them to try and come up with some form of evidence if any?
I'm still waiting for proof of the claims being made against DJI. These other companies that can't compete with DJI need to step up their game if they want to be the top dog of the drone industry. My money will always be with DJI.
Best Buy no longer keeps drones in store so you're going to have to order it anyway
There are 7 Best Buy’s within 16 miles of me and everyone of them h=display and have dji drones in stock.
@@txarchdroneguy4731
You are lucky then.
Most of them in Michigan can't keep them in stock because they keep getting stolen.
Would you review the DJI h30 cameras
lmao, they will ban their cameras too, now what?
@@XdekHckr sucks indeed
"as of recent" when he meant to say "as of late."
This Bill is absolutely nonsense. How can a bill be passed with out any evidence of wrong doing?? This is bullying, senators should be ashamed to back legislation that is being used for all the wrong purposes.
As an American and DJI fan I’m convinced that the CCP at the very least has a nice cushy corner office in DJI headquarters. I’d love to be able to buy American but there is absolutely NO other manufacturers that can compare to DJI models and won’t be able to anywhere in the near future.
That being said, if DJI was so concerned with being banned then all these efforts on proving they don’t collect data or proving they don’t should have been done months ago. Not a couple days before
@@itsreallytom4310 timing is unimportant it's the situation. Its Chinese bashing like most things in this country if it's not Anglo-Saxons
US has issue with dji since its doing better they wish it was them
I think they want to ban DJI because no other US drone company can compete with DJI.
This is pretty much assumed at this point, especially given the ties between the congresswoman and Skydio.
It’s about money and bribery, not data. Buy your DJI hardware online from abroad.
All the drone "influencers" need to step up and make it clear the political source of these bills. I know it doesn't lend itself to popular appeal, but this is mostly coming from one party.
Just sent out my emails!
Thanks you Billy for making this video. I’ve reached out to my “representatives”. Even the democrats are in favor of it.
Boycott Skydio!!
All that info is already in your account... wtf total scam.
The passwd on your DJI account isn't working for me. Can you help? please... :)
Too bad botgrinder won't send out another viral video to stand up and voice your opinion. But bot is laughing at DJI right now.🎉
I have a horrible feeling that possibly “Kim Joung Un” is responsible for all of this drone drama. God bless DJI❤.
It's such bullshit. The fear monger about DJI Drones is ridiculous. Politics is disgusting 🤦🏾♂️
I guess you've never heard of the CCP. Enjoy tiktok
Thanks god am not in the US 😅
Thanks for your message DJI, your feedback is really important, and i'll make sure to pass your message to the correct political department.
"false claims"? Where is your evidence to say they are false claims?
USA companies...... "if you can't compete, ask your government to defeat" has been done with other companies, AND ideas, throughout the years. Instead of bettering ourselves, we cry and throw tantrums until our "daddy" fixes it for us. That's why we are falling behind in tech, education, manufacturing, and a lot of other areas. In order to be better, DO better.
I have watched, or tried to, a couple of your drone videos. I think some of them are interesting with the info you offer. Unfortunately you just talk way too fast which makes it a little hard to understand everything you are saying and then after awhile it becomes annoying so I just leave that video. I’m not trying to be mean, just offering information to you. If you didn’t talk so fast I would probably watch your videos. I know we are all different and that’s probably just how you talk. So again not trying to be mean just letting you know. Have a good day.
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@@olabergvall3154 hey,mi didn’t know that. It works pretty good. Thank you
I was engaged in a previous effort to address federal regulations on drones. From first-hand experience, I can tell you there is nothing you can do. DJI is almost certainly cooked, and it will be a welcome and necessary change to return the innovation we sold to China. I am underinformed on the details, yet I could run circles around that guest with facts and DJI history. I am proud to be the dissenting voice, standing up for freedom and privacy and not giving it all to a PRC-controlled company that has chronically lied to users and government officials.
I'm listening. Our echo chamber needs outside voices like yours. Got my first drone a year ago and thought, to quote David Letterman: "This is more fun than humans should be allowed to have."