@@squidwardonland7427 It is by no means a mistake. But you will find the game more stresful than it already is, beacuse it is probably the least newbie-friendly tech tree in the whole game.
Japanese tanks, much like Swedish tanks, are allergic to having armor. The differences is, the Japanese don't know they're un-armored so they built them as big as houses.
from my experience playing 5 nation, swedish tanks are the easiest to grind and the japanese tanks are the hardest because usually you only have 3 tanks at the same br to fight
Entirely wrong. Japanese soil is soft, giving a tank more than the armor then they needed to maneuver around the soft Japanese soil. Would lead to these tanks LITERALLY bogging down(sinking into the dirt) because they were too heavy. This is why If a Tiger I was to come to Japan it would be way too heavy to even drive through Japanese soft soil.
@@sinisterisrandom8537 not to mention that Japan was colonising most of Asia and especially the Pacific which has soft soil too. They weren't targeting the hard soil of the USA or Europe
My appreciation for the Japanese tech tree comes in the form of, as the gamer world says, 'git gud'. They're almost always the underdogs in any fight, with layouts that tend to make the crew highly susceptible to being wiped out in a single hit, generally longer reloads than opponents with similar firepower, and significantly less effective armor in most circumstances. Soldiering through this tech tree forced me to learn to outmaneuver, out-think, and learn to make suspension-based shots on the move, as well as needing to rapidly learn the maps themselves, where to hit targets, and how to make as innocuous a target of myself as possible. All these lessons meant that, the first time I used a stock Sherman tank with its stabilizer, generally reliable gun and armor and decent gun, I took home seventeen kills for the loss of one crewman. The short version: If you play Japan, you'll learn to respect the strengths of your opponents, to anticipate being knocked out in a single hit, and generally speaking you will find yourself performing far better when you jump into more superior vehicles in other tech trees with the skills and tactics you learned here. The Japanese tech tree is not beginner friendly, but it's still the place I'd recommend beginners to start, because you'll learn so much more about how to play from them than the Shermans, KV-1s and Tigers that basically hold your hand for you. Dark Souls is hard, yes, but you emerge from it victorious and all the more skilled at the end because of that difficulty; the same goes for the Japanese tanks.
Yes. I originally played American tanks and stopped at rank 6.0 br because it was so hard. Then I played Japan for a year, struggled, but learned, and now I’m at 9.7. American tanks are so simple and easy to use now, and I get my kills and survive really easily by using the skills I learned with Japan. And for that, I am thankful to be a far more better player than I was. It makes me mad when people say “Germany suffers” and blames the tanks. No, the players are just bad because they rely on the tanks instead of their own skills to succeed.
@@kenny.-.9087 I played with russians till 4.3 and I'm playing with germans already at 4.0, a difference that i noticed between germans and russians is that germany has a lack of well protected vehicles before tigers and panthers, but they also have great cannons, so what's the point of these players saying that germany suffers?
I still play Japan, other nations are trash :) That said, Demon Souls Level 1 with Prince is effin hard. When it first came out on PS3, that was true gaming, with Ninga Gaiden Black.
Definitely agree! Even if I started with russia and I am still maining it, I learned a lot from playing Japan. I started playing Japan because I wanted to change it up a bit and started playing all nations, even China.
Yep, their turret designs really are interesting. Plus the turret is always balanced out in size by the body. They really are beautiful in a design sort of way, atleast for me.
One of the reasons I started Japan, the Tanks just look good and some of them are a secret treasure and so much fun (Chi-Ha Kai ❤️) They are somewhat weak in armor and overtiered mostly in midtier but the Cannons can Nuke everything and the STAs have such a good Sniper Zoom, brawling is suicide OH and the Design is just 😍, the guys in Japan really know how to build good looking tanks
Underrated armor as just like the Italians they where designed with the battles they had foreseen in mind not to mention their production capabilities in mind
The Japanese ground tree is really underrated. I have a lot of fun in it, so WT players should give it a chance! The Chi-Ha Kai is really fun, the Chi-Nu pens a lot, the Chi-Tos are nice, and the 6.3 lineup is great. (I’ve ground up to there). Japan also has the So-Ki and the last M24 to be able to be used for event grinding But don’t think I forgot the derp guns! The Ho-Ro, Hi-Ro Sha, Chi-Ha SG, Chi-Ha LG, and the mighty Type 75 SPH. Each one of them is awesome!
Chi-Nu II is propably the best premium tank i ever played, or at least the one i had the most fun with. Its mobile and the gun is extremly powerful, it almost feels like you have a smaller, more mobile and less armored Panther.
it was until they revised the HE with "blast overpressure" and it made those big gun vehicles like the brummbar and KV2(german capped and 1939 mod) so much fun to play with... there is also the KV1C which has a good gun and excellent armor for it's BR..
I find Japan to be very underrated. It’s play style teaches you early on about flanking and aiming for weak spots. Naturally with this, new players tend to struggle in comparison to someone more familiar with the game.
JP also suffers the issue of over-tierring later on as on average JP players get more kills per death simply due to flanking tactics, and high repair costs. Just took at the SPRG. Also the type 93 is an SAM that has a 0.24 kill rate against planes per death
@@dhimasardiansyah8741 it's meant for all kinds of players... If people want to get more experienced in the game: Go for the Japanese tech tree. If people just want to goof around and hardly get penetrated frontally: Go for the American tech tree
@@j2m3_raiden5 Close, but it should be "II-go" as in a "イ" (い, pronounced i) and not "エ" (え, pronounced e) as the name type 89 I go (八九式中戦車 "イ号") starts with Katakana "イ" for first and "号" for number.
@@sparrisguy6330 I think you guys are saying the same thing different ways. The vowel "i" in Japanese is always pronounced like the "ee" in "week". The tank's name most closely sounds like the English word "ego" (like, sense of self-importance).
Japanese tank development was surprisingly advanced during the interwar period, sporting some of the most successful designs of that period. Once WW2 began however, the post-Nonmonhan era Japanese army budget for steel and the refocused efforts into the “southern strike” doctrine meant the IJA’s armoured developments were amputated. Japanese armour legacy is the consequence of early potential that was cut short by war demands and limited resources.
This tree is one of my favorites, in no small part due to the 75mm guns on the chi-nu's and chi-to's. Plus the designs are just so different looking to most of the other nations.
I personally love the Jappanese tanks. Especially chi he and chi nu. While the chi he yes is out gunned sometimes especially if being uptiered, its low profile and over all mobility can give it an upper hand in hiding and flanking. Its not that uncommon from my experience to see them do well in battles.
The japanese armour is correct from a historical point of view, but the Br's for most tanks in the japanese tech-tree are to high in my opinion. I've grinded the japanese tanks untill the Type-90. The Br's are a mess when it comes to japanese tanks, most of the tanks should be lowered from a Br-point of view. Maybe a "sub-nation" (like south Afrika for brittain) could help Japan to be more interesting for players. All with all: the japanese tech-tree is fun but boring, you have no armour, no speed but a some-what decent gun. If you want to have a playstyle that is sitting in the corner of the map, hoping you won't get killed by a machine gun; take Japan. All with all, fun to play, but sometimes really frustrating and boring.
Korea can either go with Japan or China, but I personally think Japan would be a better idea since China has enough countries under its belt already. I don't even know what Korea has for tanks besides modern armor but it may serve as a good bolster in the higher BRs.
If they do add Korean tanks like the K1A1 or M-2020 I would guess the would put North Korea with China and South Korea with Japan. Either that or just make a whole new tech tree which is probably not a good idea.
I love playing the Japanese Tank Tree. Not necessarily underrated but it has taught me how to play more strategically and accurately. Also some of the goofy design are some of the best. Chi-Ha LG is a blast, just watch out for any kind of damage.
I really love all the Japanese low-tier tanks, they're cool and look awesome. Hopefully one day we get the I-Go Otsu and Ka-Mi with floats added to WT.
I absolutely love the trees. The air, ground, and naval fit my play style perfectly. My only problem is the the silver lion and research point cost of the type 16. Compared to the 9.0 centuaro, I feel that it is unfairly priced.
Japanese tanks while not the best at their brs, force you to learn how to play the game. Map positions, enemy armor layouts, when it's safe to move, etc... That being said I love them! The Chi Ri being one of my favorites in the whole game, the autoloader and mobility along with solid firepower allow you to quickly dispatch enemies you've flanked.
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the reserve japanese tanks were a real pain to grind through but it was worth it as soon as you get the derp guns like the Ho-Ro you can even hold your grounds in uptiers... not a beginner friendly tech-tree tho
I play the Japanese tech tree as my main since I'm very interested with the Type 90. At first it was really hard since they are not as strong compared to other nations. However when you get used to and know how to play them, they're really good. Plus since its quite hard to play, it thought me to be more careful, be wise on how I go about the battlefield. I do have to note that the Japanese ground forces do not have a comprehensive line up per match, so you have to arrange and use what you have. All in all its not super good or super bad, a challenging nation to play but when done right it is worthwhile, at least for me. Currently at rank V and grinding for Type 74.
@rn if youre f2p its horrible, unless you have some friends to play with, are an absolute beast or have some good luck with the after battle loot crates
Yeah, Kai means "modified/improved", and is separate to the Kou/Otsu/Hei/etc variant names (those are equivelant to the American A1/A2/A3/etc or the British Mk I/II/III/etc).
Not gonna lie, the Japanese tank tree was the hardest to grind and spade for me, but after getting the first generation of post WW2 tanks, then it starts being quite fun. Japan is not really underrated, they really are the worst tanks and the underdog, but that's kind what makes them shine. If used properly, they can perform well, and they sure are rare in battles, not many people use them. From what I saw, the MBTs are Very strong, so I can't wait to get there, maybe in a few more months I will get all Japanese tanks unlocked and spaded, but fighting against them in top tier is quite scary with their 4 seconds reload. I do recommend playing the Japanese tank tree as well, but not as the first tank tree, maybe the third or forth tank tree...
Certainly feel like that explains a lot, since I always feel a step behind on my enemies and always feel like I have to outhink my opponents over a straight front engagement. Though I'm more impressed that the ones I've been leaning towards as saying "This tank is good" are also tanks the Japanese military were feeling like they were on the right track with, so historical accuracy with unit capabilities, that's a bit more next level to me.
Yea i think the japanese tanks are kinda underrated, yes they don't have any armor but with some luck and skill u can bounce or use the hilly terrain to hide ur tanks. Btw Chi Ha Kai was my fav
too underrated is the answer. sure its not tough. in my experience most of the time one stops you from moving,especialy in the open it tends to be time to commit seppuku. but when YOU end up striking first it is usually the same result as a katana slicing a cherry blossom. that is a good reason to play it out of the enemy sight until they are engaged with your team mates or don't see you at all. there was this one time i was lucky enough to be in a point with lots of rocks where the enemy could not see me from a distance using the Chi-He if i remember correctly (if not it is one of the same category in Japanese the tech tree.) the result was me see the enemy first an with my cannon closer to them and got kill after kill like this. as a sign note i adore the APHE shells.
Add the Japanese Panther, add the O-I, Add the Ho Ri I and Ho Ri II, add the Japanese Pz III's, add the Ka-To. Then we'll see Japan catching up with the other countries more.
Medium Tank nº5 would be cool but im afraid it would be a premium or event O-I absolutely yes Ho-Ri I could be a nice addition at 6.0 Ho-Ri II Already in game Medium tank nº3 hell yes Ka-To is possible, we have the Ji-Ro they only have to swap the gun and a few adjustments in the model, not hard work
I use a Chinese 1 tank one tank in realistic simulation and I test out the second tank shell and I notice the armor is quite dependent on what angle your firing.
I have a problem with grinding in war thunder. Why do we have to purchase previous vehicles that we don't want or won't play to get to the vehicles we want. I been playing war thunder since the beginning of 2017 and the grind is getting worse. I literally waste alot of lions purchasing vehicles I never play with just to get to the ones I want to play with. Can you make it where we don't have to purchase previous vehicles just to get to the vehicles we want. Can we research them, not purchase it and move on to the vehicles I battle and save lions for instead. This would save players time and money.
WAIT the end was different from the norm, Bruce said "we love listening" and all the patches called we fixed it actually help the game grow. Have gaijin actually turned around to become legitimately concerned for the playerbase and it's wants. GREAT JOB GAIJIN KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
From my experience, it's certainly a very fustrating tech tree to play. Your engine is like lawnmower, your armor is rice paper, and your cannons are a peashooter. Rank I is manageable, but Rank II to IV is utter hell to advance, especially when you have players taking potshots at you 800m+ away with you having no hopes to fire back. Urban maps also provides you no cover to speak of.
Especially when the Ha-Go has 30mm of Max pen while China gets the M8-LAC and its 50 cal with more pen, Sweden gets a lineup of 1.0s with rapid fire APDS, and Russia gets the BT-5 with its speed and greet gun. All share the same BR.
@@getoutofherestalker2441 nope it has not beeing build. The O-I is only a blueprint Tank and Warthunder don't implement blueprint Tanks to my knowlege. And in the other side the japanese heavys would not be good in warthunder. Dont get me wrong i like the japanese heavys in WoT but in warthunder i don't think there would be good
@@herrfingerknacks4970 Under current rules, once a half prototype has been built, it can now be put into the game. I'm not sher, but the O-I tank was built and used somewhere in China. There is very little information about the tank so it is also difficult to implement in the games.
Should definitely add those massive tanks that are on WOT - those heavy tanks with insane armor. (I didn't really played WOT that much to know the specifics but I heard it had great armor and fire power - a true heavy boi)
sadly the Type 4 and 5 to wich your refers never had existed as blueprints...but the O-I tank did! such a beautifull shoebox with a massive PP lmao. They should definitely add it (maybe as a premium but add it ffs)
@@bruhman5385 Unfortunate :( Ive seen videos on it so I never played it (was a ruski main and never even reached top tier cuz am constantly broke.) Thanks for the heads up!
Chi-Ha Kai and and Chi-He are very good at their battle ratings. Nice mobility, very good gun with short reload, and Chi-He has 50mm front armor that give you much needed survivability.
why is it that airfield AAA when it shoots at me feels like aimbot. Hitting me at 4 to 5 km away while opening at 700+kph But when i need it to shoot a target strafing the airfield. They are blind
Please dear god add the 120mm APHE "anti-submarine" round for the Chi-Ha short gun. It desperately needs it to be any actual use in rank 2. Especially since most of the other rank 2 vehicles are at 2.3, meaning you'll get a full up-tier to 3.3 everytime you want to use it. And even making a 1.7 lineup gets you a 2.7 battle against 105 Shermans'. It is known that the crews were provided, though not all of them, with a small amount of these rounds. You could implement them in the same way you do certain ammo belts and only allow the player to bring a few into battle. And it would help the tank out tremendously for rank 2 Japanese tech tree
Type 10 is too new and its cababilities are more or less being kept a secret. We dont know how much armor it has, the penetration it has, or even the reload rate.
@@kingisaacius9712 Yea you’re right. But some of the vehicles have guessed armor, pen, and other things. There is info on its “Type 10” round ~700mm of pen. Anyways, i want something else, the Type 90’s are good tanks, but they have nothing to back them up.
@@kujob6442 Well i dont think that would work out because of political issues. I saw a Korean player actually want the Imperial flag on Japan to be removed and replaced with its modern flag. They may be allies, but there tanks are more Korean-American than Korean -Japanese
@@kingisaacius9712 What do you mean its too new? Its been in service since 2012, meanwhile we have a Leopard 2PL in game which has been in service since 2020...
Maybe not the best tanks that ever existed, but they have a charm all their own. Have long been fond of the aesthetics of the Chi-Ha. In the game, they can be nice to play, if you are just looking for some fun.
All this research, still pronounces "I-Go" as "Eye-Goh" when it's "E-Goh"... It's not that hard to pronounce Japanese things because it's pronounced the way it's spelled... no exceptions to sounds...
Considering the Japanese gave their tank designers about 2 quid for a budget, it is VERY impressive what they managed to develop. Also the genius idea of the Chi Nu 2, effectively and quickly converting their pre war and early war models into Panzer 4s in case of an American invasion.
I think the Japanese engineer tank have super crazy Idea than other engineer can think of. But it was eject because of Warships production. In my thought it could be a bigger tank that equip battleship canon. Perhaps there is more than that.
It's so sad to see how much content is missing from the tank tree. It's one of the original nations for ground forces, yet it's smaller than the new nations that have been added in the last year. I know Japan had not alot of mass produced tank variants, but they had so many prototypes and mockups to better compete with the allies. The tree has such bad br gaps, sometimes like whole 1.7 gaps with only one tank in there. They need to buff up this tree so badly. I don't even care if they just fill it with captured tanks, but it needs something to help fill these gaps. The other issue is that most of their tanks are in bad br's for what they face. Like a 57mm (70mm pen) armed tank that is slow and made of 40mm frontal, un-sloped armor, is the same br as first generation Sherman's and t-34 tanks. It's like putting a kid into a ring with an adult. Sure the kid can sometimes get a slug in, but he will lose 95% of the time.
I love how WT is more realistic than WoT. WoT would have maybe 30 tanks in tech tree because most of them are from blueprints but I would play more WT if there werent so many updates with more than 500MB lately.
Remember, every time you die to a japanese tank, you can never get mad. Only be proud. That you have been served a most honorable death by a most honorable person.
And if you should happen to be commanding one of these RL Japanese WW2 tachikomas/Metal Slugs/kei-tanks and are immobilized, you must turn your tank's main gun upon itself in a final act of penance, in the time-honoured tradition of "schleppadookuitis".
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The derpiest tech tree requiring utmost precision and discipline to survive
True words
I’m not sure if it was a mistake to make this the first tank tree I played
@@squidwardonland7427 yes it's a big mistake. But you're not alone
@@squidwardonland7427 I also started with Japan. It taught me how not to get hit lol
@@squidwardonland7427 It is by no means a mistake. But you will find the game more stresful than it already is, beacuse it is probably the least newbie-friendly tech tree in the whole game.
You start playing japanese reserves: *visible pain*
You unlock the Chi Ha LG: *visible happiness*
And then ur whole crew dies from Preesure damage
Haha Ho Ro go bonk
Nice to know... I'll try to go tru' the pain of the Japanese Reserves once again... lol
Big 🅿️🅿️
Everybody gangsta until some random 120 mm nippon shell flying to your tank
Japanese tanks, much like Swedish tanks, are allergic to having armor. The differences is, the Japanese don't know they're un-armored so they built them as big as houses.
from my experience playing 5 nation, swedish tanks are the easiest to grind and the japanese tanks are the hardest because usually you only have 3 tanks at the same br to fight
Entirely wrong.
Japanese soil is soft, giving a tank more than the armor then they needed to maneuver around the soft Japanese soil. Would lead to these tanks LITERALLY bogging down(sinking into the dirt) because they were too heavy. This is why If a Tiger I was to come to Japan it would be way too heavy to even drive through Japanese soft soil.
@@sinisterisrandom8537 not to mention that Japan was colonising most of Asia and especially the Pacific which has soft soil too. They weren't targeting the hard soil of the USA or Europe
@@klariusvikander8221 I swear sweden is the most fun tech tree. So much derp😂
@@benp9442 Oh they're definitely fun. Both nations have great guns, they just don't have the ability to take a hit.
“Sir, look! A Japanese heavy tank!”
“My word, might have to bring out the medium rifle for this one.”
"Just get a Garand, maybe a BAR if there's too many."
Nah, you at least need a .50 caliber machine gun to effectively stop an advancing Japanese tank, historically.
@@paulsteaven ah so go get the browning
I Main Japanese tank and I agree.
@ehe~ That's not at all easy...
fun fact: the Chi-nu used a field gun, meaning it had to be fired by string and lacked a trigger just like other field guns.
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Hey, if it works it works
Bruh
My appreciation for the Japanese tech tree comes in the form of, as the gamer world says, 'git gud'. They're almost always the underdogs in any fight, with layouts that tend to make the crew highly susceptible to being wiped out in a single hit, generally longer reloads than opponents with similar firepower, and significantly less effective armor in most circumstances. Soldiering through this tech tree forced me to learn to outmaneuver, out-think, and learn to make suspension-based shots on the move, as well as needing to rapidly learn the maps themselves, where to hit targets, and how to make as innocuous a target of myself as possible. All these lessons meant that, the first time I used a stock Sherman tank with its stabilizer, generally reliable gun and armor and decent gun, I took home seventeen kills for the loss of one crewman.
The short version: If you play Japan, you'll learn to respect the strengths of your opponents, to anticipate being knocked out in a single hit, and generally speaking you will find yourself performing far better when you jump into more superior vehicles in other tech trees with the skills and tactics you learned here. The Japanese tech tree is not beginner friendly, but it's still the place I'd recommend beginners to start, because you'll learn so much more about how to play from them than the Shermans, KV-1s and Tigers that basically hold your hand for you. Dark Souls is hard, yes, but you emerge from it victorious and all the more skilled at the end because of that difficulty; the same goes for the Japanese tanks.
Yes. I originally played American tanks and stopped at rank 6.0 br because it was so hard. Then I played Japan for a year, struggled, but learned, and now I’m at 9.7. American tanks are so simple and easy to use now, and I get my kills and survive really easily by using the skills I learned with Japan. And for that, I am thankful to be a far more better player than I was.
It makes me mad when people say “Germany suffers” and blames the tanks. No, the players are just bad because they rely on the tanks instead of their own skills to succeed.
@@kenny.-.9087 I played with russians till 4.3 and I'm playing with germans already at 4.0, a difference that i noticed between germans and russians is that germany has a lack of well protected vehicles before tigers and panthers, but they also have great cannons, so what's the point of these players saying that germany suffers?
I still play Japan, other nations are trash :)
That said, Demon Souls Level 1 with Prince is effin hard. When it first came out on PS3, that was true gaming, with Ninga Gaiden Black.
Definitely agree! Even if I started with russia and I am still maining it, I learned a lot from playing Japan. I started playing Japan because I wanted to change it up a bit and started playing all nations, even China.
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I'm a fan of how Japanese tanks look. They have very unique designs that you don't really see anywhere else.
Yep, their turret designs really are interesting. Plus the turret is always balanced out in size by the body. They really are beautiful in a design sort of way, atleast for me.
They usually look ugly
@@sumaiyakausar9482 You are the problem then because their sometimes almost steampunk like design is cool.
Just as nice as the ijn
One of the reasons I started Japan, the Tanks just look good and some of them are a secret treasure and so much fun (Chi-Ha Kai ❤️)
They are somewhat weak in armor and overtiered mostly in midtier but the Cannons can Nuke everything and the STAs have such a good Sniper Zoom, brawling is suicide
OH and the Design is just 😍, the guys in Japan really know how to build good looking tanks
Gajin: "We love listening"
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Same like WOTB and WOT
This man makes literally everything sound way more powerful than it is
(thats a good thing btw)
from personal experiece, I can say that it's just as powerful as he stated
Underrated armor as just like the Italians they where designed with the battles they had foreseen in mind not to mention their production capabilities in mind
Whoever is the Narrator to this video... Can you please read me a bedtime story? LMAO
bruce is love and life
Bruce for dictator :D
Tell him to read you pages of history
Bruce is a legend
Japanese tanks in a nutshell:
Rank I: pain
Rank II: pain
Rank III: decent
Rank IV: meh
Rank V: pretty good
rank 2 is pretty good
*ho-ro crying in corner*
the chi ha is pretty good at bouncing shells ngl
chi-he is very good even on 4.3
Horo is good at all ranks xD
The colours and camo of japanese tanks are so unique and beautiful heh
Ah yes The Japanese, Best Nation I grinding
Same
Me too
same
The correct way to describe it is "Painfully Fun"
Same!
Seems like Gaijin finnaly acknowledged the japanese tank tech tree
i hope they'll add the type 10 in a few updates
@@dropped_child You guys have way too much hope, it was denied already recently, probably even next year for it to be released.
Japanese heavyweight tanks 👺
@@samyt681 They also denied supersonic aircrafts a month before adding them. so you never know
The Japanese ground tree is really underrated. I have a lot of fun in it, so WT players should give it a chance! The Chi-Ha Kai is really fun, the Chi-Nu pens a lot, the Chi-Tos are nice, and the 6.3 lineup is great. (I’ve ground up to there). Japan also has the So-Ki and the last M24 to be able to be used for event grinding
But don’t think I forgot the derp guns! The Ho-Ro, Hi-Ro Sha, Chi-Ha SG, Chi-Ha LG, and the mighty Type 75 SPH. Each one of them is awesome!
You are right, I love the chi he, that stabilizer has helped me doing kills and shots that dont feel like rank 2.
Low tier: Ho Ro goes boom
Later tiers: Type 75 SPH goes boom, but faster
more like: later tiers: Ho Ro still goes boom
Boom and faster?
Sounds like the VK 16.02 Leopard in WoTB
"Commander, japanese tank spotted."
"Drive me closer. I want to pen them with my sword!"
You only need the Ho-Ro.
yes
Dollar approved 💯
and super Ho-Ro
Long Gun?
And chi ha kai. That thing is awesome!
Chi-Nu II is propably the best premium tank i ever played, or at least the one i had the most fun with. Its mobile and the gun is extremly powerful, it almost feels like you have a smaller, more mobile and less armored Panther.
yeah i purchase it aswell and is great, i really love it, was very helpfull to the grind of the japan tech three
it was until they revised the HE with "blast overpressure" and it made those big gun vehicles like the brummbar and KV2(german capped and 1939 mod) so much fun to play with... there is also the KV1C which has a good gun and excellent armor for it's BR..
That tank was fantastic. I’ve had my best games in that tank.
To me it feels more like a avenger with slightly more armor
I don't know, have you ever tryied the T-34-57 mod 43?
I find Japan to be very underrated. It’s play style teaches you early on about flanking and aiming for weak spots. Naturally with this, new players tend to struggle in comparison to someone more familiar with the game.
Japanese tank are meant to experienced player, the armor of the lower rank are so thin event high caliber machine gun gan pierce through
JP also suffers the issue of over-tierring later on as on average JP players get more kills per death simply due to flanking tactics, and high repair costs. Just took at the SPRG. Also the type 93 is an SAM that has a 0.24 kill rate against planes per death
@@dhimasardiansyah8741 it's meant for all kinds of players... If people want to get more experienced in the game: Go for the Japanese tech tree. If people just want to goof around and hardly get penetrated frontally: Go for the American tech tree
pretty funny when he spells I-Go Ko with "aye-go" instead of "ee-go ko"
So is it aye-go or ee-go? I’m pretty foreign if it comes to Japanese language but I’m trying to learn it bit by bit.
@@apple_3058 i believe its "ee-go"
@@j2m3_raiden5 Close, but it should be "II-go" as in a "イ" (い, pronounced i) and not "エ" (え, pronounced e) as the name type 89 I go (八九式中戦車 "イ号") starts with Katakana "イ" for first and "号" for number.
ee aa uu aa oo kookoo
@@sparrisguy6330 I think you guys are saying the same thing different ways. The vowel "i" in Japanese is always pronounced like the "ee" in "week". The tank's name most closely sounds like the English word "ego" (like, sense of self-importance).
Japanese tank development was surprisingly advanced during the interwar period, sporting some of the most successful designs of that period. Once WW2 began however, the post-Nonmonhan era Japanese army budget for steel and the refocused efforts into the “southern strike” doctrine meant the IJA’s armoured developments were amputated. Japanese armour legacy is the consequence of early potential that was cut short by war demands and limited resources.
This tree is one of my favorites, in no small part due to the 75mm guns on the chi-nu's and chi-to's. Plus the designs are just so different looking to most of the other nations.
I will always get sushi first before entering a battle in Japanese tanks.
And at least one full bottle of sake
@@saeer5038 I usually take 3
@@saeer5038 I always take 1 barrel of sake and 2 barrels of kikkoman
I personally love the Jappanese tanks. Especially chi he and chi nu. While the chi he yes is out gunned sometimes especially if being uptiered, its low profile and over all mobility can give it an upper hand in hiding and flanking. Its not that uncommon from my experience to see them do well in battles.
The japanese armour is correct from a historical point of view, but the Br's for most tanks in the japanese tech-tree are to high in my opinion. I've grinded the japanese tanks untill the Type-90. The Br's are a mess when it comes to japanese tanks, most of the tanks should be lowered from a Br-point of view. Maybe a "sub-nation" (like south Afrika for brittain) could help Japan to be more interesting for players. All with all: the japanese tech-tree is fun but boring, you have no armour, no speed but a some-what decent gun. If you want to have a playstyle that is sitting in the corner of the map, hoping you won't get killed by a machine gun; take Japan. All with all, fun to play, but sometimes really frustrating and boring.
Korea can either go with Japan or China, but I personally think Japan would be a better idea since China has enough countries under its belt already. I don't even know what Korea has for tanks besides modern armor but it may serve as a good bolster in the higher BRs.
pmk 2034 i don't think that is a good idea this is since Korea and Japan don't have the best of relations which each other
If they do add Korean tanks like the K1A1 or M-2020 I would guess the would put North Korea with China and South Korea with Japan. Either that or just make a whole new tech tree which is probably not a good idea.
currently grinding it and completely agree
This is why historical matchmaking doesn't work
I love playing the Japanese Tank Tree. Not necessarily underrated but it has taught me how to play more strategically and accurately. Also some of the goofy design are some of the best. Chi-Ha LG is a blast, just watch out for any kind of damage.
I really love all the Japanese low-tier tanks, they're cool and look awesome. Hopefully one day we get the I-Go Otsu and Ka-Mi with floats added to WT.
I absolutely love the trees. The air, ground, and naval fit my play style perfectly. My only problem is the the silver lion and research point cost of the type 16. Compared to the 9.0 centuaro, I feel that it is unfairly priced.
I am almost finished with grinding Japan and have had a blast playing there WW2 tanks and cold war ones as well.
my favourite tech tree. no lack of high calibre cannons and no lack of gun depression, theres never any mindless gameplay in these tanks.
It's not the weapon itself what makes it good, it's the hand who holds the weapon that makes it good.
Japanese tanks while not the best at their brs, force you to learn how to play the game. Map positions, enemy armor layouts, when it's safe to move, etc...
That being said I love them! The Chi Ri being one of my favorites in the whole game, the autoloader and mobility along with solid firepower allow you to quickly dispatch enemies you've flanked.
Hello, I know that there is little chance that I will be answered but I was wondering: given that the BF 109 Z will soon "celebrate" its 2 years, I was wondering if there was a chance for it to be back in store? (thank you very much if someone answers me 😁)
hope your question will be answered :)
I want the Z09 so BADLY
Try on Twitter
@@gimbolak8928 Message sent, we must hope for a response 🤞
Don't we already have enough Bf109s
Japanese tanks are underrated and not bad
the reserve japanese tanks were a real pain to grind through but it was worth it as soon as you get the derp guns like the Ho-Ro you can even hold your grounds in uptiers... not a beginner friendly tech-tree tho
Better than a nation that hasn't officially participated in a war for 200 years...
Sweden
@@jaeger.5045 Really ? I thought it was Tahiti
There is some evidence that there was an oi prototype made would love to se that thing in the game
oh that monster...
I play the Japanese tech tree as my main since I'm very interested with the Type 90. At first it was really hard since they are not as strong compared to other nations. However when you get used to and know how to play them, they're really good. Plus since its quite hard to play, it thought me to be more careful, be wise on how I go about the battlefield. I do have to note that the Japanese ground forces do not have a comprehensive line up per match, so you have to arrange and use what you have. All in all its not super good or super bad, a challenging nation to play but when done right it is worthwhile, at least for me. Currently at rank V and grinding for Type 74.
You know the type 90 is essentially a Japanese leopard 2A4
@@monnorcerkl9731 yes, although lesser in armour, but makes up with the autoloader.
taught* where*
@@Correction_Guy Thanks. English is not my native language, I'll try to improve.
@@hazraz4195 no worries, this is why I'm here
*How much grind you want to implement in your games?*
Gaijin: *YES*
@rn if youre f2p its horrible, unless you have some friends to play with, are an absolute beast or have some good luck with the after battle loot crates
The rank 3 Chi's are basically panzer 4's and with better guns imo. Especially the Chi Ri with its autoloader which can come in clutch
My worst experience with the Japanese tanks was a constant up tier where i had to fight german tigers and panthers and soviet IS-1/2 tanks
My favourite tanks were Hago, Keni, Kami. Good pen inb4 volume.
I really like it when they put "Kai" on their vehicles. Idk why but it sounds nice
@@MichaeL-sd7wz Cool, didn't know that
Yeah, Kai means "modified/improved", and is separate to the Kou/Otsu/Hei/etc variant names (those are equivelant to the American A1/A2/A3/etc or the British Mk I/II/III/etc).
As Admiral Yamamoto I personally think that the glorious Empire of Japan should’ve built more Yamato’s and more Ohka Sakura’s
Love me some Japanese tanks, the provide a fun amount of firepower, mobility and fight in then for low tier
Not gonna lie, the Japanese tank tree was the hardest to grind and spade for me, but after getting the first generation of post WW2 tanks, then it starts being quite fun. Japan is not really underrated, they really are the worst tanks and the underdog, but that's kind what makes them shine. If used properly, they can perform well, and they sure are rare in battles, not many people use them. From what I saw, the MBTs are Very strong, so I can't wait to get there, maybe in a few more months I will get all Japanese tanks unlocked and spaded, but fighting against them in top tier is quite scary with their 4 seconds reload. I do recommend playing the Japanese tank tree as well, but not as the first tank tree, maybe the third or forth tank tree...
Man this would’ve been great to know as my first nation was japan
The Chi-to's and Chi-Ri can be very dangerous in the right hands
Still waiting for the O-I tank
I come back here every now and then so that I can feel like it's the first time again.
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Amazing a Type 97 Chi-Ha can destroy a giant like the T35
T-35 is weak when it comes to armor
Certainly feel like that explains a lot, since I always feel a step behind on my enemies and always feel like I have to outhink my opponents over a straight front engagement. Though I'm more impressed that the ones I've been leaning towards as saying "This tank is good" are also tanks the Japanese military were feeling like they were on the right track with, so historical accuracy with unit capabilities, that's a bit more next level to me.
Yea i think the japanese tanks are kinda underrated, yes they don't have any armor but with some luck and skill u can bounce or use the hilly terrain to hide ur tanks. Btw Chi Ha Kai was my fav
No armour best armour
too underrated is the answer.
sure its not tough. in my experience most of the time one stops you from moving,especialy in the open it tends to be time to commit seppuku.
but when YOU end up striking first it is usually the same result as a katana slicing a cherry blossom.
that is a good reason to play it out of the enemy sight until they are engaged with your team mates or don't see you at all.
there was this one time i was lucky enough to be in a point with lots of rocks where the enemy could not see me from a distance using the Chi-He if i remember correctly (if not it is one of the same category in Japanese the tech tree.) the result was me see the enemy first an with my cannon closer to them and got kill after kill like this.
as a sign note i adore the APHE shells.
Add the Japanese Panther, add the O-I, Add the Ho Ri I and Ho Ri II, add the Japanese Pz III's, add the Ka-To. Then we'll see Japan catching up with the other countries more.
The thing is, that WT tries to be somewhat realistic and only adds tanks, that really existed.
That's why the removed the Maus as well.
@@justmoddie5963 *Sweats in Ho-Ri* Idk if it actually existed though, but I've heard it didn't. The Maus existed though.
Medium Tank nº5 would be cool but im afraid it would be a premium or event
O-I absolutely yes
Ho-Ri I could be a nice addition at 6.0
Ho-Ri II Already in game
Medium tank nº3 hell yes
Ka-To is possible, we have the Ji-Ro they only have to swap the gun and a few adjustments in the model, not hard work
where type 10
@@Dynamite___Harry One was built but it got ditched in a lake
I use a Chinese 1 tank one tank in realistic simulation and I test out the second tank shell and I notice the armor is quite dependent on what angle your firing.
I have a problem with grinding in war thunder. Why do we have to purchase previous vehicles that we don't want or won't play to get to the vehicles we want. I been playing war thunder since the beginning of 2017 and the grind is getting worse. I literally waste alot of lions purchasing vehicles I never play with just to get to the ones I want to play with. Can you make it where we don't have to purchase previous vehicles just to get to the vehicles we want. Can we research them, not purchase it and move on to the vehicles I battle and save lions for instead. This would save players time and money.
WAIT the end was different from the norm, Bruce said "we love listening" and all the patches called we fixed it actually help the game grow. Have gaijin actually turned around to become legitimately concerned for the playerbase and it's wants.
GREAT JOB GAIJIN KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
From my experience, it's certainly a very fustrating tech tree to play. Your engine is like lawnmower, your armor is rice paper, and your cannons are a peashooter. Rank I is manageable, but Rank II to IV is utter hell to advance, especially when you have players taking potshots at you 800m+ away with you having no hopes to fire back. Urban maps also provides you no cover to speak of.
Especially when the Ha-Go has 30mm of Max pen while China gets the M8-LAC and its 50 cal with more pen, Sweden gets a lineup of 1.0s with rapid fire APDS, and Russia gets the BT-5 with its speed and greet gun. All share the same BR.
The chi-ri tank has a battle rate of 5.0 in ab, which makes it difficult to go into battle with other tanks.
Japanese heavy tanks. If you please!
At least "Type O-I" it can now enter the game under the new rules!
It has been build as far as I know, so why not adding it?
@@getoutofherestalker2441 nope it has not beeing build.
The O-I is only a blueprint Tank and Warthunder don't implement blueprint Tanks to my knowlege.
And in the other side the japanese heavys would not be good in warthunder.
Dont get me wrong i like the japanese heavys in WoT but in warthunder i don't think there would be good
@@herrfingerknacks4970 Under current rules, once a half prototype has been built, it can now be put into the game.
I'm not sher, but the O-I tank was built and used somewhere in China.
There is very little information about the tank so it is also difficult to implement in the games.
Should definitely add those massive tanks that are on WOT - those heavy tanks with insane armor. (I didn't really played WOT that much to know the specifics but I heard it had great armor and fire power - a true heavy boi)
sadly the Type 4 and 5 to wich your refers never had existed as blueprints...but the O-I tank did! such a beautifull shoebox with a massive PP lmao.
They should definitely add it (maybe as a premium but add it ffs)
@@bruhman5385 Unfortunate :( Ive seen videos on it so I never played it (was a ruski main and never even reached top tier cuz am constantly broke.) Thanks for the heads up!
ngl, i remember when i killed 20 people with a chi-ha kai without die in a match, its BEAULTIFUL
dying*
@@Correction_Guy ok
Chi-Ha Kai and and Chi-He are very good at their battle ratings. Nice mobility, very good gun with short reload, and Chi-He has 50mm front armor that give you much needed survivability.
They are so under powered that it's bearly possible to "climb the ranks"!
The Type 2 ka-mi had a modification that could actually make it float on water
why is it that airfield AAA when it shoots at me feels like aimbot. Hitting me at 4 to 5 km away while opening at 700+kph But when i need it to shoot a target strafing the airfield. They are blind
True
What motivated me to grind through japan was because of the STB1's suspension.
It paid off
Will Japan receive the Japanese built prototype Panther with the Type-Ge cannon? Or O-I heavytanks?
O-I super heavy tank? lol
And what next? Landkreuzers?
@@snakethewarlord4685 no its just huge ho ro with turret and good armor
@@snakethewarlord4685 The OI is slightly taller and longer than the Maus
@@snakethewarlord4685 There is nothing wrong with O-I, Japan could recieve it.
i especially like tier 2.3, because the tanks there are best played with eurobeat.
I-Go is pronounced “ee go” in Japanese
yep, i was triggered when he was like "eye go"
It was hell at the start of this tech tree. After you get borrowed tanks, it was a breathing space.
The most overtiered nation, 75mm have worse reload than soviets 85mm lmao
I've never had an issue with them, they're quite fun tanks to play
Been playing with Japanese tanks, and they are very underrated. In the hands of someone who knows what they're doing, they can be a legitimate threat
hmm chinese tanks video will be interesting in V-VI-VII rank part LUL
Please dear god add the 120mm APHE "anti-submarine" round for the Chi-Ha short gun. It desperately needs it to be any actual use in rank 2. Especially since most of the other rank 2 vehicles are at 2.3, meaning you'll get a full up-tier to 3.3 everytime you want to use it. And even making a 1.7 lineup gets you a 2.7 battle against 105 Shermans'. It is known that the crews were provided, though not all of them, with a small amount of these rounds. You could implement them in the same way you do certain ammo belts and only allow the player to bring a few into battle. And it would help the tank out tremendously for rank 2 Japanese tech tree
Love me some Japanese tanks!
Pretty good video about the history of Japanese WWII armor - quite interesting.
Can the Japanese get a new top tier? Type 10? Or anything else to fill some of the void? Anything would be nice.
Type 10 is too new and its cababilities are more or less being kept a secret. We dont know how much armor it has, the penetration it has, or even the reload rate.
@@kingisaacius9712 Yea you’re right. But some of the vehicles have guessed armor, pen, and other things. There is info on its “Type 10” round ~700mm of pen. Anyways, i want something else, the Type 90’s are good tanks, but they have nothing to back them up.
@@kingisaacius9712 I think they should maybe incorporate the South Korean tree with the Japanese.
@@kujob6442 Well i dont think that would work out because of political issues. I saw a Korean player actually want the Imperial flag on Japan to be removed and replaced with its modern flag. They may be allies, but there tanks are more Korean-American than Korean -Japanese
@@kingisaacius9712 What do you mean its too new? Its been in service since 2012, meanwhile we have a Leopard 2PL in game which has been in service since 2020...
I always refer to the I-Go Ko as the "I-Go Boom" as one hit to that massive, flat, front plate and you go up like a Roman candle.
We need Type 10 Godzilla!!!!
XD
Maybe not the best tanks that ever existed, but they have a charm all their own. Have long been fond of the aesthetics of the Chi-Ha. In the game, they can be nice to play, if you are just looking for some fun.
Maybe it is the time to start grinding japanese tank
Imagine if some genius named one of these tanks the Fuk-Yuu
smaller nations need more tanks: Japan, France, Italy.
But they didnt developed many tanks
@@fusososososo3507 developed not means on appaer maybe they wasn't developed but they were on paper
@@gigachad8425 No. No paper tanks. That’s precisely why the Panther ll and the Tiger 2 10.5cm were removed.
France and Italy have quite a decent amount, though more could be added for sure. But Japan definitely needs more.
@@L1mp1nB1zk1t but tiger 2 wasn't on paper it was developed
I'm not a great or even a good player, but I find I have the most fun playing Japanese tanks, a lot of the time it feels like I'm a glass cannon
All this research, still pronounces "I-Go" as "Eye-Goh" when it's "E-Goh"... It's not that hard to pronounce Japanese things because it's pronounced the way it's spelled... no exceptions to sounds...
Considering the Japanese gave their tank designers about 2 quid for a budget, it is VERY impressive what they managed to develop.
Also the genius idea of the Chi Nu 2, effectively and quickly converting their pre war and early war models into Panzer 4s in case of an American invasion.
Me who just came from a Dollar Plays marathon: where Ho-Ro?
CHI HAAA
Edit: if you have the “chi HAA long gun and short gun, is there a chi HAA medium gun?
チハたんは日本の戦車のアイドルだよ
Ahm
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Nice
Yessir
Awesome
I think the Japanese engineer tank have super crazy Idea than other engineer can think of. But it was eject because of Warships production.
In my thought it could be a bigger tank that equip battleship canon.
Perhaps there is more than that.
It's so sad to see how much content is missing from the tank tree. It's one of the original nations for ground forces, yet it's smaller than the new nations that have been added in the last year.
I know Japan had not alot of mass produced tank variants, but they had so many prototypes and mockups to better compete with the allies.
The tree has such bad br gaps, sometimes like whole 1.7 gaps with only one tank in there. They need to buff up this tree so badly. I don't even care if they just fill it with captured tanks, but it needs something to help fill these gaps.
The other issue is that most of their tanks are in bad br's for what they face. Like a 57mm (70mm pen) armed tank that is slow and made of 40mm frontal, un-sloped armor, is the same br as first generation Sherman's and t-34 tanks. It's like putting a kid into a ring with an adult. Sure the kid can sometimes get a slug in, but he will lose 95% of the time.
Oh narrator, what would we do without you
Be happier, Also Creamy, if I pronounced some of the names more accurately???
Truly make historian appreciate Japanese tank craftmanship.
i hope in their future updates they would introduce the japanese O-1 super heavy tanks.
Very unlikely, we all wish but its very unlikely to come cause there really isn't true all rounded designs on paper
And it's O-I, not O-1
I love how WT is more realistic than WoT. WoT would have maybe 30 tanks in tech tree because most of them are from blueprints but I would play more WT if there werent so many updates with more than 500MB lately.
Remember, every time you die to a japanese tank, you can never get mad. Only be proud. That you have been served a most honorable death by a most honorable person.
And if you should happen to be commanding one of these RL Japanese WW2 tachikomas/Metal Slugs/kei-tanks and are immobilized, you must turn your tank's main gun upon itself in a final act of penance, in the time-honoured tradition of "schleppadookuitis".
Interesting timing. I just got myself the first Type 90.