Glad to see you have all the correct lateral and longitudinal bracing including the lateral bracing in the ceiling plane. I'm a structural engineer and these roof s built in the 70s and 80s rarely had the correct bracing and quite a few put up nowadays don't!
Hi John🖐You've got to be an idiot not to be able to follow the truss drawings😵💫but I agree, and many roofs are not braced properly😔Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@h2s142 The trusses are designed and manufactured to meet the current Building Regulations and are installed in strick adherence to the drawings. The Building Inspector does not use their discretion when inspecting the completed work, they simply expect to see that was has been installed is in accordance with the drawing👍
I like the way you work... very productive...learnt things off you I have put into practice after 40 years joinery work on and off... always learning something. Thanks
Hi Andrew🖐We are always learning bud, and I've learnt some new tricks from the comments of guys on my videos, so it's a win for everyone🤩Thanks for watching and your great comment 😎 Cheers Del
"Float like a butterfly truss like a bee" eh Del ? Dont let the age thing knock ya Buddy ! Remember the fact that your 50 something has sorted the mistakes in the trusses that the 20 something s in the factory line didnt see !. We gotta sayin on this side of the lake, "the old dog for the hard road". I remember my apprenticeship served to oldtimers i gained more knowledge off them than was ever thought in college! You moved through that work today. And you said a very good statement you took your time. And all your work was right on point. Keep safe Del. Gerry across the lake 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Great to read your comment Gerard, and love your 'old dog' saying🤗 Like you, I learned SO much from the old guys I served my time under, and only wish I had understood better some of the things they told me about life, as you think you know it all and are going to live forever when you are 17 years old, when the fact is, that you don't know your arse from your elbow and you've got a million mistakes ahead of you to learn from🤔Take Gerry and thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
The experience line on your graph is always going up, I think it always makes up for the fact that the strength and agility lines level off and start to fall again. 😆
@@ironpirate8 That's a great way of explaining it IP🤩The strength, agility and endurance line is definitely starting fall a bit now🤪 Plummet is probably the right word😆Cheers Del
Cheers Steve🤗Brickies we're on my case to start the gables before I'd finished bailing up the bracing🤪Have a good weekend bud and thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
All the new builds I seem to have done lately have been bungalows🤪I'll have forgotten how to put stairs up when I go back to working on 2 storey houses😵Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Del, I used to be a ballerina until my tou tou needed up-sizing to a 4x4! I am always surprised at how flimsy the trusses seem until properly tied together as one solid roof structure.
I've got a mental image of you in a tou tou now Michael🤯 It's cool that you say about how flimsy the trusses are before they're all tied in, as I think exactly the same thing👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
nice one del, ive got a truss roof to do soon.... trusses have been delivered now like. got a couple of kitchens to get out of the way first though.. the garage is i think..... 9 meter by 7 meter.... something like that anyway. class shots with the drone like.
Hi Paul🖐That sounds like a fair lump of a roof you've got coming up bud💪The drone shots are awesome, and it just flies itself round and keeps me in the centre🤯Have a good weekend 😎Cheers Del
Hi John🖐Very roughly, if you put the ceiling height in at 2.4m, you would have a 'flat' section of around 3.5m👍(obviously dependant on rafter and joist dimensions) Cheers Del
Hi Dan🖐That is the boss man, and he's actually working with a broken foot, so needs to keep his weight of it as much as possible. He has to wear one of those special boot/support things, so at least he doesn't get the mickey taken out of him🤗(MUCH😆) Hope you are well mate🤞 Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter the main man. 😮. Plenty of laugh then.. 🦶🏻 All good here thanks, hope you too. Don’t think I could reach the ridge on that bungalow roof..😆
Nice one Del, your getting the hang of these now. 😉 😆 Though I can hear the neighbourhood kids go... ''mummy, is that Spider Man up there? No hun, it's Spidery man with them legs'' 🤣🤣🤣
As soon as I saw the trusses title, I thought, here's a bag of bollocks to rock the boat, what is it with manufacturing today 🤣 thank the lord for nail guns 🤣👍🪚
Great comment Mark😆 I didnt go into too many details on the trusses as they were absolutely shocking, to the point the builder nearly rejected them as they came of the lorry😬Youre right about nail guns, and I remember nailing all these braces by hand when I first started💪Thanks for your comment 😎 Cheers Del
Years ago, when I was maybe 16, I helped my cousin fit trusses on Desborough Town football club. They were huge and we had to get them lifted up on a massive forklift. I was the one monkeying around inside fitting the braces, using a nail gun for the first time. It was fun but scary. I just can't understand how they're strong enough. I'm only 5"8 and back then I was rail thin and they felt like they'd snap at any moment.
Hi Kallum🖐Like you mate, I'm always amazed at how such flimsy frames can become so strong and rigid once they are all braced up👊I quite enjoy moving carefully around inside them as I nail the braces up🤪Thanks for watching mate 😎 Cheers Del
Its awesome Paddy👊And as much as I'd like to take credit for how cool it is, I cant, as the drone has a tracking feature and pre-set flight patterns that mean the camera is always on you🤯Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
Hi Stewart🖐On nearly all the truss roofs I do, I usually run the diagonal bracing down to the plate and spike it👍I don't think its part of the roof design but it can't hurt👊Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter on this vlog, the big diagonal braces meet each other at a roof truss end, cut and nailed close, that's what my plan drawings show. Not fitted on wallplate, little confused. Cheers
Good sport Mike🤓Yes there was some chevron bracing in there mate, but I had to put it in afterwards as the builder nicked 8 lengths of bracing, painted them black for the little fascia detail😆 He got me some more, but not till after I finished the video👊 Great comment bud, and thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Enjoying your channel only discovered it recently. Do you butt all longitudinal bracing halfway on a truss even 35mm thickness trusses or overlap them along side each other? Hope that makes sense 👍😂
Hi there🖐and thanks for looking in on my videos👍Yes, I but my bracing together half on a truss as I find it keeps things much neater and simpler and the braces running closer to the fink/rafter connection point👊Its never coming apart once battened/boarded, and if the inspector is not happy, I just run another bit of bracing next to it lapping 3 trusses😎Cheers Del
Great work Dan, i remember you said you generally work alone, how do you get guys to help on larger jobs? Love the Drone shots how the hell did it follow you around as you turned.
Hi V8🖐I do work on my own in terms of my carpentry, but the guys in the video are the developer, his brother and their labour, and they always muck in on the heavy lifting💪The drone has pre set flight patterns and a tracking feature (Quick Shots) that basically keep me in the centre of the shot as it flies around👊 Mind blowingly clever, and absolutely NOTHING to do with my piloting skills😆 Makes for awesome video though😎Cheers Del
Hi Dez 🖐 Well spotted bud, and it should actually be the same down here😬 BUT, I find it easier and neater to keep the lateral bracing in the same line by joining them over one truss, and then simply cut and fix a bit of brace long enough to span 3 trusses, (the one with the join over it and one each side of that) to strengthen the join and keep the building inspector happy👍 It actually uses no more bracing either💪Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter When talking about the lateral bracing is this also referred to as diagnol bracing? Also how do you ensure the trusses ends are all in line, do you use a string line. I have often wondered this when passing large sites where they crane them up strapped in a pack, they must fix one each end of the roof and pull a line? Hope to see you soon.👍👍
@@amazing451 Hi Kevin🖐 I centre the first truss over the building by measuring back from the rafter foot to the face brickwork each side, and then just keep all the other trusses the same measurement👊 You have 3 main types of bracing, lateral bracing that runs from one end of the truss run to the other which hold all the trusses at the correct spacing, diagonal bracing that keeps the trusses upright and then chevron bracing that adds additional vertical stability in larger span trusses👍Thanks for your comment😎Cheers Del
One thing I don’t miss about private work is the inappropriate scaffolding that’s the advantage of site work these days. Scaffold to just below wall plate no gaps and also internal decking.
Hi CollColin🖐You're so right bud, and the big sites, for all thier faults, really do try their hardest to make the job as safe as possible for the workers👍As I get older, I'm becoming less inclined to put myself at risk like I used to when I was younger😬Great comment and thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@@flyingjackcarpentry9394 Too right Kallum😆and you should see the stuff I ride down on my mountain bike 🚵♂️ at the weekends🤟🤕Have a good weekend 😎Cheers Del
Takes me back to my early days Andrew when timber really was 4" x 2" and you had 3 inch wires in one side of your pouch, and 4's in the other🤔 2nd fixing nails were 1.5" and 2" ovals, and 2.5" cut nails for the skirting👊 Thanks for your comment 😎 Cheers Del
Nice one Del. How do you line up your trusses? As in if you looked across the ridge line from one end to the other end, to keep them in a nice straight line. Do you go by the intersection where the joist meets the rafter on the wall plate? I'm interested to now how you do it, I can't make out on the video. 🤔. 👍
Hi Paul🖐 I just center the first truss over the building by measuring out from the face brickwork back to the rafter foot. (do this both sides) This then cuts out any discrepancies in the cavity width which may throw out the truss alignment if the plate was followed. One I know the distance between the brickwork face and the rafter foot, I just set all the trusses to this down one side, but still check the other side every few trusses to make sure they are not running out. I've found, over the years, that this gets the best results considering the tolerance in the trusses👊Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter thanks for the answer Del. I have only ever done a few trussed roofs, mainly cut roofs, I found some trusses poorly made to do similar to what method to what you explain 🤔, I centered one truss at each end like you, but found tapeing out to the foot of trusses as I went along , I had a look along my ridge line and found some trusses to far of center to the left and right as I looked down it. As I say I don't have alot of experience with trusses, it's good to ask a chippy like you who has done alot of trusses👌. Keep up the great video 👍🇮🇪
@@paulcloona9331 I hear you mate, and the trouble with poorly made trusses is that wherever you try and take a datum point from, (ridge or ceiling chord to underside of rafter chords line), you will struggle to get them straight. I use my method to line the trusses in, and if they are REALLY rough I will tickle the worst ones by splitting the difference or even laying myb6 foot level over the top to get them as close as possible. I like to try and get them as close as possible at the eves level, as this is where it would cause the most problems if they were a long way out, even if the ridge line was spot on👍
It should be strung with a line across spars... One truss each end measured off face brick to centre trusses to building, then string line on top side side from one truss to the other (not across truss ends/feet to many discrepancies). Then start fitting the trusses bringing them to your string line. Excepting that you will need to cut back spar ends for facia and soffit.... This is the only way you can a good truss pitch line.
Hi fella🖐Yes, it's only 'temporary' to keep the truss in place until they are all set on and braced up. I then knock them in all the way before fitting the clips👍
@@thetallcarpenter if you were to put a stringline across the backs of the trusses at the eaves level what would you say the tolerance is in deviation from the string line? This is for a slate roof covering also thanks
@chippy977 I wouldn't even bother putting a line over trusses as they are usually all over the place😬I tend to just measure bith sides of the rafter foot back to the face work and keep then even as I go👍
Del do you have set processes for each carpentry task? Like for example when you fit trusses do you do it the same way every time and if you do you just recall from memory your set process or do you make notes/memos to remind you your process?
Hi Charlie🖐Trusses roofs like this I usually do on autopilot, but there is always a truss design/lay out that needs to be followed. But in terms of setting out, its like most things and comes naturally from years of doing it👍Great comment and thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
@@charlierodgers2776 It's all from memory Charlie, and even if you come across something different, you just apply your carpentry knowledge to finding a solution👍Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter would you say it’s like professional chefs don’t need receipes to make certain dishes as they’ve done them time and time over again they can do it off by heart and like yourself you’ve done it time and time again cutting roofs you just work intuitvely and don’t need instructions or manuals?
@@miloclarke5486 Pretty much Milo, and you get a mental picture of how you want the job to be/look when it's finished that works in with what's on the drawing, functions correctly and meets the customers expectation👊 There is, however, always room to learn and improve the way you do things, and sometimes new ways can be tried which are either better or worse for you than before🤔Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Hi there🖐The bracing positions are clearly marked on the truss drawing that comes with the roof, BUT, the bracings are always, pretty much where an internal truss element connects to the bottom ceiling chord and the main rafter chord👊Cheers Del
Sometimes you can just overcomplicate things, I do what you do, central the truss then just pull a line from the truss to a dead man the other end on the front of the building, any discrepancies in the trusses go to the back of the house and once it's tiled it never notices.
That is my world mind numbing trusses. Can't believe you have to cut the overhang off the standards to fit to the girder truss they would all come as bobtail trusses here ready done. In fact when I used to make trusses for a living you earn more for every truss change. If you just kept making standards you didn't make up your quota or it was very hard to get to it. You have a couple of advantages there though. Your trusses are made out of more substantial members than ours. Bit less floppy. Our matchwood ones can be way bigger than that and flap around like a fish out of water. Having extra guys helps. Normally I work with just two of us. I try to get a third to stand trusses as you can't control the middle otherwise. You comment on the slightly wonky nature of the trusses. If you work in a truss plant and spend all day every day making them it is not the most interesting of jobs. You park your brain in a jar on the shelf on the way in and collect it on the way out. Just ever so slightly repetitive. And I thought putting them up was bad enough. The only thing you can say about truss roofs is that it is a quick cost effective way of building an adequate roof. And at prices today every little helps.
Hi Dave🖐Another cracking comment mate, and agree with all of it👍 I've seen the guys that work in a local truss factory, and I don't know how they keep sane putting them together all day, every day🤯 Trusses do come in for a lot of hate from carpentry purists, but as you rightly say, they enable big roofs to be completed quickly and cheaply👊Have a great weekend bud😎Cheers Del
Glad to see you have all the correct lateral and longitudinal bracing including the lateral bracing in the ceiling plane. I'm a structural engineer and these roof s built in the 70s and 80s rarely had the correct bracing and quite a few put up nowadays don't!
Hi John🖐You've got to be an idiot not to be able to follow the truss drawings😵💫but I agree, and many roofs are not braced properly😔Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@h2s142 The trusses are designed and manufactured to meet the current Building Regulations and are installed in strick adherence to the drawings. The Building Inspector does not use their discretion when inspecting the completed work, they simply expect to see that was has been installed is in accordance with the drawing👍
I like the way you work... very productive...learnt things off you I have put into practice after 40 years joinery work on and off... always learning something. Thanks
Hi Andrew🖐We are always learning bud, and I've learnt some new tricks from the comments of guys on my videos, so it's a win for everyone🤩Thanks for watching and your great comment 😎 Cheers Del
"Float like a butterfly truss like a bee" eh Del ? Dont let the age thing knock ya Buddy ! Remember the fact that your 50 something has sorted the mistakes in the trusses that the 20 something s in the factory line didnt see !. We gotta sayin on this side of the lake, "the old dog for the hard road". I remember my apprenticeship served to oldtimers i gained more knowledge off them than was ever thought in college! You moved through that work today. And you said a very good statement you took your time. And all your work was right on point. Keep safe Del. Gerry across the lake 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
Great to read your comment Gerard, and love your 'old dog' saying🤗 Like you, I learned SO much from the old guys I served my time under, and only wish I had understood better some of the things they told me about life, as you think you know it all and are going to live forever when you are 17 years old, when the fact is, that you don't know your arse from your elbow and you've got a million mistakes ahead of you to learn from🤔Take Gerry and thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
The experience line on your graph is always going up, I think it always makes up for the fact that the strength and agility lines level off and start to fall again. 😆
@@ironpirate8 That's a great way of explaining it IP🤩The strength, agility and endurance line is definitely starting fall a bit now🤪 Plummet is probably the right word😆Cheers Del
great stuff! Old paslode that, think I have the same one... amazing with a bit of regular cleaning and oiling they can just keep going for years!!
Hi Tom🖐Too right bud, and I'm a real Paslode fan🤩Great gun for swinging around on a roof👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Nice job. You have nice affable/ instantly likeable quality. Rare to see today 😁👍
That's a very kind thing to say thesey🤗Thank you for watching and hope you have a nice weekend 😎 Cheers Del
Nice straight forward job Del 👌🏼🧱👍🏽
Cheers Steve🤗Brickies we're on my case to start the gables before I'd finished bailing up the bracing🤪Have a good weekend bud and thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter . 😆😆🧱🧱🧱🧱👍🏽
Nice to see some bungalows going up!
All the new builds I seem to have done lately have been bungalows🤪I'll have forgotten how to put stairs up when I go back to working on 2 storey houses😵Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Great video, really enjoyed that, thanks! Going to be doing my first bit of truss roofing later in the year, just a small gable over a garage for me.
Hi Steve🖐Thanks for your comment bud and all the best with your first trussed roof🤗Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Loving the deck chairs Del. 👍
No expense spared on the welfare facilities on this job Barry😆Cheers Del
Del, I used to be a ballerina until my tou tou needed up-sizing to a 4x4! I am always surprised at how flimsy the trusses seem until properly tied together as one solid roof structure.
I've got a mental image of you in a tou tou now Michael🤯 It's cool that you say about how flimsy the trusses are before they're all tied in, as I think exactly the same thing👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Nice little video Del, always looks a great accomplishment at the end of the day when you do truss work. Have a great weekend mate
Hi Mark🖐 You're right bud, and you can make a big show on the first day with trusses👊Have a great weekend also mate😎Cheers Del
nice one del, ive got a truss roof to do soon.... trusses have been delivered now like. got a couple of kitchens to get out of the way first though.. the garage is i think..... 9 meter by 7 meter.... something like that anyway. class shots with the drone like.
Hi Paul🖐That sounds like a fair lump of a roof you've got coming up bud💪The drone shots are awesome, and it just flies itself round and keeps me in the centre🤯Have a good weekend 😎Cheers Del
Excellent job Del 👍
Thanks for watching Tyler👊Cheers Del
What height ceiling would I get in loft room with a 10m span with a 40 degree pitch, great video. Thx
Hi John🖐Very roughly, if you put the ceiling height in at 2.4m, you would have a 'flat' section of around 3.5m👍(obviously dependant on rafter and joist dimensions) Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter Thank you del much appreciated.
Great video Del. I want the ‘move a truss then sit down’ job.. nice chairs by the way.
Looks like the new 🎧are fitting well. 👊🏻
Hi Dan🖐That is the boss man, and he's actually working with a broken foot, so needs to keep his weight of it as much as possible. He has to wear one of those special boot/support things, so at least he doesn't get the mickey taken out of him🤗(MUCH😆) Hope you are well mate🤞 Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter the main man. 😮. Plenty of laugh then.. 🦶🏻
All good here thanks, hope you too.
Don’t think I could reach the ridge on that bungalow roof..😆
@@Ultimate-roofing-square. You'd be just right nailing the top brace through, as I was slightly bent over in there😬Cheers
@@thetallcarpenter 😆👊🏻
Great job Del. Love the drone footage
The drone shots really bring the whole job alive Steve, and I'm pleased I bought one👊Thanks for your comment mate😎Cheers Del
Great video, thanks Del !!!!
Appreciate you watching Michael🤗Cheers Del
Love all your videos Del what a great job mate. Ya clever lad 😊🪚🪚🪚
You're too kind Carl🤗Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter
Loving the drone footage mate
Your like a kid with a new toy lol 😝
@@carllamb6711 Sure am bud👊
Nice one Del fantastic job
Thanks for watching Robert😎Cheers Del
Nice one Del, your getting the hang of these now. 😉 😆 Though I can hear the neighbourhood kids go... ''mummy, is that Spider Man up there? No hun, it's Spidery man with them legs'' 🤣🤣🤣
Hi LOM🖐Great comment bud😆and my legs do get in the way sometimes🤪Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
As soon as I saw the trusses title, I thought, here's a bag of bollocks to rock the boat, what is it with manufacturing today 🤣 thank the lord for nail guns 🤣👍🪚
Great comment Mark😆 I didnt go into too many details on the trusses as they were absolutely shocking, to the point the builder nearly rejected them as they came of the lorry😬Youre right about nail guns, and I remember nailing all these braces by hand when I first started💪Thanks for your comment 😎 Cheers Del
Years ago, when I was maybe 16, I helped my cousin fit trusses on Desborough Town football club.
They were huge and we had to get them lifted up on a massive forklift.
I was the one monkeying around inside fitting the braces, using a nail gun for the first time.
It was fun but scary.
I just can't understand how they're strong enough.
I'm only 5"8 and back then I was rail thin and they felt like they'd snap at any moment.
Hi Kallum🖐Like you mate, I'm always amazed at how such flimsy frames can become so strong and rigid once they are all braced up👊I quite enjoy moving carefully around inside them as I nail the braces up🤪Thanks for watching mate 😎 Cheers Del
👍 Great footage with the drone del
Its awesome Paddy👊And as much as I'd like to take credit for how cool it is, I cant, as the drone has a tracking feature and pre-set flight patterns that mean the camera is always on you🤯Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
Massive roof job well done without a crane
It what they call 'man power' Pat💪 (probably not allowed to use that term nowadays😆) Thanks for watching bud😎Cheers Del
Nice job del was looking forward to a new video
Hi John🖐Its not a particularly in depth one bud, but still shows the sorts of things I get up to👊Thanks for your comment bud😎Cheers Del
Excelente trabajo 👍 se agradece que compartan los avances de la obra 👍 saludos
Thanks for watching Vianka 😎 Cheers Del
Hi, should you fix diagonal bracing to wall plate at all times, my plans show they don't, cheers
Hi Stewart🖐On nearly all the truss roofs I do, I usually run the diagonal bracing down to the plate and spike it👍I don't think its part of the roof design but it can't hurt👊Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter on this vlog, the big diagonal braces meet each other at a roof truss end, cut and nailed close, that's what my plan drawings show.
Not fitted on wallplate, little confused.
Cheers
@@stewart9476 I have had this specced on roof before, and I guess it's best to do what's on your drawing👍
@@thetallcarpenter yeah, will do cheers.
Take care
Nice one Del
Thanks for watching Tim🤩Cheers Del
No chevron braces del? I usually find if the trusses span over 8m the drawing asks for CB
Good sport Mike🤓Yes there was some chevron bracing in there mate, but I had to put it in afterwards as the builder nicked 8 lengths of bracing, painted them black for the little fascia detail😆 He got me some more, but not till after I finished the video👊 Great comment bud, and thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Enjoying your channel only discovered it recently. Do you butt all longitudinal bracing halfway on a truss even 35mm thickness trusses or overlap them along side each other? Hope that makes sense 👍😂
Hi there🖐and thanks for looking in on my videos👍Yes, I but my bracing together half on a truss as I find it keeps things much neater and simpler and the braces running closer to the fink/rafter connection point👊Its never coming apart once battened/boarded, and if the inspector is not happy, I just run another bit of bracing next to it lapping 3 trusses😎Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter agree Del a much neater and superior job than side by side overlapping by 3 trusses. Cheers👍
@@seanfowler5264 😎👍
Great work Dan, i remember you said you generally work alone, how do you get guys to help on larger jobs? Love the Drone shots how the hell did it follow you around as you turned.
Hi V8🖐I do work on my own in terms of my carpentry, but the guys in the video are the developer, his brother and their labour, and they always muck in on the heavy lifting💪The drone has pre set flight patterns and a tracking feature (Quick Shots) that basically keep me in the centre of the shot as it flies around👊 Mind blowingly clever, and absolutely NOTHING to do with my piloting skills😆 Makes for awesome video though😎Cheers Del
Up in Bonny Scotland we put the laterals side by side I noticed you put them on top at the lap over.
Hi Dez 🖐 Well spotted bud, and it should actually be the same down here😬 BUT, I find it easier and neater to keep the lateral bracing in the same line by joining them over one truss, and then simply cut and fix a bit of brace long enough to span 3 trusses, (the one with the join over it and one each side of that) to strengthen the join and keep the building inspector happy👍 It actually uses no more bracing either💪Thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter When talking about the lateral bracing is this also referred to as diagnol bracing? Also how do you ensure the trusses ends are all in line, do you use a string line. I have often wondered this when passing large sites where they crane them up strapped in a pack, they must fix one each end of the roof and pull a line? Hope to see you soon.👍👍
@@amazing451 Hi Kevin🖐 I centre the first truss over the building by measuring back from the rafter foot to the face brickwork each side, and then just keep all the other trusses the same measurement👊 You have 3 main types of bracing, lateral bracing that runs from one end of the truss run to the other which hold all the trusses at the correct spacing, diagonal bracing that keeps the trusses upright and then chevron bracing that adds additional vertical stability in larger span trusses👍Thanks for your comment😎Cheers Del
One thing I don’t miss about private work is the inappropriate scaffolding that’s the advantage of site work these days.
Scaffold to just below wall plate no gaps and also internal decking.
Hi CollColin🖐You're so right bud, and the big sites, for all thier faults, really do try their hardest to make the job as safe as possible for the workers👍As I get older, I'm becoming less inclined to put myself at risk like I used to when I was younger😬Great comment and thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter bit of danger makes it more exciting tho.
@@flyingjackcarpentry9394 Too right Kallum😆and you should see the stuff I ride down on my mountain bike 🚵♂️ at the weekends🤟🤕Have a good weekend 😎Cheers Del
Must admit I like the old purlin and skew nailed 4 by 2 technique, old 4 by 2 were proper size
Takes me back to my early days Andrew when timber really was 4" x 2" and you had 3 inch wires in one side of your pouch, and 4's in the other🤔 2nd fixing nails were 1.5" and 2" ovals, and 2.5" cut nails for the skirting👊 Thanks for your comment 😎 Cheers Del
What thickness are the wall plates 100 x 50 or 100 x 75?
Hi there🖐These builders always use 4x2 for thier wall plates 👍Cheers Del
👍 did you set it out
Yes Neil👍Pretty standard setting out, and something I've covered in other videos👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Nice one Del. How do you line up your trusses? As in if you looked across the ridge line from one end to the other end, to keep them in a nice straight line. Do you go by the intersection where the joist meets the rafter on the wall plate? I'm interested to now how you do it, I can't make out on the video. 🤔. 👍
Hi Paul🖐 I just center the first truss over the building by measuring out from the face brickwork back to the rafter foot. (do this both sides) This then cuts out any discrepancies in the cavity width which may throw out the truss alignment if the plate was followed. One I know the distance between the brickwork face and the rafter foot, I just set all the trusses to this down one side, but still check the other side every few trusses to make sure they are not running out. I've found, over the years, that this gets the best results considering the tolerance in the trusses👊Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter thanks for the answer Del. I have only ever done a few trussed roofs, mainly cut roofs, I found some trusses poorly made to do similar to what method to what you explain 🤔, I centered one truss at each end like you, but found tapeing out to the foot of trusses as I went along , I had a look along my ridge line and found some trusses to far of center to the left and right as I looked down it. As I say I don't have alot of experience with trusses, it's good to ask a chippy like you who has done alot of trusses👌. Keep up the great video 👍🇮🇪
@@paulcloona9331 I hear you mate, and the trouble with poorly made trusses is that wherever you try and take a datum point from, (ridge or ceiling chord to underside of rafter chords line), you will struggle to get them straight. I use my method to line the trusses in, and if they are REALLY rough I will tickle the worst ones by splitting the difference or even laying myb6 foot level over the top to get them as close as possible. I like to try and get them as close as possible at the eves level, as this is where it would cause the most problems if they were a long way out, even if the ridge line was spot on👍
@@thetallcarpenter I get you Del, I adjusted them to look good at the eve.👍.
It should be strung with a line across spars... One truss each end measured off face brick to centre trusses to building, then string line on top side side from one truss to the other (not across truss ends/feet to many discrepancies). Then start fitting the trusses bringing them to your string line. Excepting that you will need to cut back spar ends for facia and soffit.... This is the only way you can a good truss pitch line.
When you stand trusses up do you not skew nail a 3 inch nail into each side?
Hi fella🖐Yes, it's only 'temporary' to keep the truss in place until they are all set on and braced up. I then knock them in all the way before fitting the clips👍
@@thetallcarpenter if you were to put a stringline across the backs of the trusses at the eaves level what would you say the tolerance is in deviation from the string line? This is for a slate roof covering also thanks
@chippy977 I wouldn't even bother putting a line over trusses as they are usually all over the place😬I tend to just measure bith sides of the rafter foot back to the face work and keep then even as I go👍
@@thetallcarpenter yeah I found that!, do you know what the manufacturing tolerance for the trusses is? In terms of size variation?
@chippy977 I don't know what manufacturers tolerances are, but they are generally within 10mm to 20mm up or down😵💫
Del do you have set processes for each carpentry task? Like for example when you fit trusses do you do it the same way every time and if you do you just recall from memory your set process or do you make notes/memos to remind you your process?
Hi Charlie🖐Trusses roofs like this I usually do on autopilot, but there is always a truss design/lay out that needs to be followed. But in terms of setting out, its like most things and comes naturally from years of doing it👍Great comment and thanks for watching😎Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter thanks for that, but in terms of other more technical carpentry tasks do you also just work on autopilot and memory?
@@charlierodgers2776 It's all from memory Charlie, and even if you come across something different, you just apply your carpentry knowledge to finding a solution👍Cheers Del
@@thetallcarpenter would you say it’s like professional chefs don’t need receipes to make certain dishes as they’ve done them time and time over again they can do it off by heart and like yourself you’ve done it time and time again cutting roofs you just work intuitvely and don’t need instructions or manuals?
@@miloclarke5486 Pretty much Milo, and you get a mental picture of how you want the job to be/look when it's finished that works in with what's on the drawing, functions correctly and meets the customers expectation👊 There is, however, always room to learn and improve the way you do things, and sometimes new ways can be tried which are either better or worse for you than before🤔Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Great job.
I see the birickie run out of bricks so, Bung a low roof on .
It was actually only 22.5° Tim👍But, yeah, not to many bricks in the gables👊Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del
Is there a rule on where you should put truss bracing for inside the truss
Hi there🖐The bracing positions are clearly marked on the truss drawing that comes with the roof, BUT, the bracings are always, pretty much where an internal truss element connects to the bottom ceiling chord and the main rafter chord👊Cheers Del
Sometimes you can just overcomplicate things, I do what you do, central the truss then just pull a line from the truss to a dead man the other end on the front of the building, any discrepancies in the trusses go to the back of the house and once it's tiled it never notices.
You're right Andy, and the trusses would need to be REALLY bad for you to notice👊Thanks for watching mate and have a good weekend 😎 Cheers Del
Are trusses all framed 2x4
Hi David🖐Each truss member is sized according to the span, pitch and design of the individual roof👍Cheers Del
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That is my world mind numbing trusses. Can't believe you have to cut the overhang off the standards to fit to the girder truss they would all come as bobtail trusses here ready done. In fact when I used to make trusses for a living you earn more for every truss change. If you just kept making standards you didn't make up your quota or it was very hard to get to it. You have a couple of advantages there though. Your trusses are made out of more substantial members than ours. Bit less floppy. Our matchwood ones can be way bigger than that and flap around like a fish out of water. Having extra guys helps. Normally I work with just two of us. I try to get a third to stand trusses as you can't control the middle otherwise. You comment on the slightly wonky nature of the trusses. If you work in a truss plant and spend all day every day making them it is not the most interesting of jobs. You park your brain in a jar on the shelf on the way in and collect it on the way out. Just ever so slightly repetitive. And I thought putting them up was bad enough. The only thing you can say about truss roofs is that it is a quick cost effective way of building an adequate roof. And at prices today every little helps.
Hi Dave🖐Another cracking comment mate, and agree with all of it👍 I've seen the guys that work in a local truss factory, and I don't know how they keep sane putting them together all day, every day🤯 Trusses do come in for a lot of hate from carpentry purists, but as you rightly say, they enable big roofs to be completed quickly and cheaply👊Have a great weekend bud😎Cheers Del
Crane ?
Be nice Paul😵
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Cheers Carter👍
Maybe explain what your doing instead of just using time lapse.
There's plenty of roofing videos on my channel where I go great depth😉
I reckon i would have fallen straight through
I took wide steps Garviel😆Thanks for watching 😎 Cheers Del