The Boss VB-2 VS Behringer Ultra Vibrato (With IDLES' Lee Kiernan)
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- On this week's episode of Can You Hear It? we're joined by guitarist Lee Kiernan from the band, Idles! We're really excited about this one, but will Lee be able to hear the difference between the vintage and the new? And remember, for every win Lee gets correct, he'll get a $5 gift card to Subway, and so will one person from the live chat who also gets the right answer! Good luck!
MXR Dyna Comp v.s. Vintage Block Logo Dyna Comp
JHS Morning Glory v.s. The Marshal Blues Breaker
Boss VB-2 v.s. Behringer Ultra Vibrato
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I've never felt more like a boomer than trying to get my head around this kind person's tuning.
Miles Davis; Gábor István Szabó (March 8, 1936 - February 26, 1982) was a Hungarian American guitarist whose style incorporated jazz, pop, rock, and Hungarian music.
@@TheTubeDude I like Szabo. Miles too. ?
@@ross3818 I had a strong feeling that you did, sir. My comment was actually for the youngsters in the JHS crowd. I thought at first the very out-of-tune playing was intentional. So OK, i'll roll with it. But when he was offered a tuner I was surprised. I thought maybe the player might eat it. Thanks for your response.
Yep I hear ya... "now, get off my lawn!" Haha
Tell me about it. First thing I thought was... Ain't gonna listen to that band. The ancient Asian folk song "Tune-ing" makes a lot of people instantly happy.
Could we test a vintage tuner vs. a Behringer tuner? J/K-this is hilarious!
So much so. That first hit of the guitar and I went “oof.”
That physically hurts my chest and I'm not 22 anymore. This is clearly a joke.
I guess that's his 'sound.'
its an SG so it'll be out of tune after the first strum anyway
My Boss-TU 1000 still better tho
Someone tune this nice gentlemen's guitar for him.
That’s how he likes it
This is punk rock. Tuning is merely a suggestion.
It's Wayne Campbell's British cousin.
Don't tune-shame, broseph.
there's no point in tuning if it detunes itself after 10 minutes 😂
True story, I owned one of the Boss VB-2s around 1990 or so. Hated it, and traded it for quarter sack of weed.
😂
Good deal !
Watching everybody in the chat having simultaneous aneurysms when this guy starts to play is making me laugh harder than I have in a long time.
When he played the second vibrato I burst out laughing
Based on the guitar tuning and guitar playing, I have actually no idea what any of these pedals really sound like! Maybe next time.
Boomer
nonsense. you can hear tonal differences between the two. you're just having a whinge.
@@joythief Lol are you implying this is a fresh guitar style..?
@@ainsbassthis dude invented power chords bro show some respect
I love Josh’s shit-eating grin when he picked the Morning Glory lol
I can tell you what pedal they need to let this guy try,, a chromatic tuner!
😂
Those behringers are insane perfect copies of the Boss stomp boxes it’s wild.
if you can get them rehoused in a metal enclosure for cheap then you have a boss for life for an insanely good price
@@tompoynton or you know, use them in a midi switcher so you dont step on them.
Which since theyre only 25-30 dollars each.
Youll be able to afford a boss es-5 with the money youll save buying 8 behringer pedals instead of the boss versions.
Yep, they are good. The behringer tube screamer sounds better than my Ibanez tube screamer. The Ibanez might take a trip down the stairs better
I use Behringer pedals because I'm paralyzed and I can't hit the normal 10mm on/off switch on most pedals with my foot. It's also hard to smash them with my hand.
The Behringer pedals have that wide on/off switch over the battery compartment. It's so much easier for me to hit than other pedals with the conventional switch. I don't think they would handle being stomped on or pounded with my fist. They go on and off with just a light tap.
They are not too bad. I can't hear it. Just make sure you have a fully charged battery or are hooked up to an external power supply. And... I use an affordable Joyo cordless guitar system from my guitar to the first pedal in the chain. A cable from the last pedal into the amp. I am constantly getting cables wrapped around my wheels. Wireless helps very much.
@@pahwraith true!
I love that you did this show the day the band was playing in town. It reminds me of back in the day, when radio stations would broadcast from the parking lot of the arena the day of show. Even if you couldn't go to the concert, you felt like you were a part of it. (And the station would play the band's music all day!)
Those were the days. Seriously. Remember when bands tuned their guitars? 😂
I’m just gonna say this right now, Joy as an Act of Resistance is the greatest punk album of the millennial generation. Thanks Lee and thanks JHS!!
Great title
IDLES are fkn brilliant!
@@baabaabaa2293 they really are
IDLES be like “let’s stomp out toxic masculinity with TOXIC MASCULINITY!!l”
Never fight a man with a perm!
OMG 😯 Whose bright idea was it to bring this guy on to play guitar? Yikes 🤢 Still love your videos BTW 🙋♂️
i legitimately thought it was a “thing” that Idles detunes their guitars. I was like “damn that’s kinda cool even though it doesn’t sound good.”
No offense or anything, but this episode was a pretty big confidence boost. That guy is in a famous band that other musicians heap praise on. Maybe there's still hope for some of us.
You'd have to be able to write. I can play just fine, but I can't write like Idles. They're fucking great. I do wish he was in tune, though. I'll give you that.
Don't be a dick.
That's a funny thing.
Over a decade ago, I recruited a couple of music majors out of college for projects not structurally dissimilar to IDLES. Despite their confidence in their technical skills, most found themselves unduly challenged It's much like the difference between intellectual and emotional maturity.
Such bands as IDLES are the only kind of music I've ever wished to play.Look at The Fall's long career and many LP's as the finest examples of what can be done.
You can really hear the Brian May influence
It's funny, I kept thinking to myself, does this guy know how to play guitar?
That vibrato segment had me crying from laughter. I needed that.
I tried to watch the whole thing, but couldn't for obvious reasons.
Lee really rocking the Garth from Wayne’s World aesthetic and I’m here for it.
This series of videos are pretty interesting. But in this one I think the first pedal to compare should have been a vintage versus a modern tuner.
I love that he doesn’t care that his guitar is so out of tune it’s almost unplayable. He. Doesn’t. Care.
Also IDLES we’re amazing at The Truman! Incredible show! He was “in tune” for the whole show. I think. Didn’t matter. They were amazing.
I got the Behringer vibrato on Josh’s recommendation in the Behringer video. It’s a great pedal. A lot of folks are concerned about the plastic housing. And I totally get that. I gig with their Tubescreamer regularly and haven’t had any issues with reliability. And the TO800 sounds just like a TS808.
I bought Behringer pedals probably after watching the same video and, yep, they are great. I know that everyone comments on the plastic case but mine haven’t broken yet-maybe if they do my opinion will change a bit but so far so good.
If you filled your 'board with 'cheap, plasticky' Behringer pedals, you could buy a world class switching system with the money you saved on 'vintage' pedals. Just sayin' 🙂
@@MikeSadlerAU truth! 💯
I've had the Vintage Overdrive for about a year and it's held up fine. Of course it's not on my board and I haven't gigged it but it's great in my room. Sounds fantastic. I think the interior components are of much higher quality than other budget pedal lines. Even ones in metal housings.
@@MikeSadlerAU you are a genius. Mind blown. I now know my next purchase. You win the comment section!
The UV300 has been my secret weapon for a while. Control it with the footswitch while using a heavy fuzz, and you get this massive, liquid wall of sound that works well for shoegaze, but even some other styles as well.
Hopefully, Sweetwater doesn't jack the prices up on these.
I just discovered how awesome it sounds running it into an analog chorus pedal set fairly subtle for some ramping organ-y sorts of sounds. The unlatch setting opens up so really great options.
Tune the guitar, we should all get prizes for watching this
Vibrato pedals are great at being barely on, for that tape warble effect. I recently bought the flamma modulation pedal and I love the vibrato on it. It sounds like my dl4 with the tape warble.
Would be great to test it again with guitarist
Come on, listen to IDLES and understand that he tries pedals with his way of playing, and don’t be so mean, no one seems really an awesome guitarist while comparing pedals.
About the tuning, the guitar he plays is absolutely not one of his guitar, and if you go to the last part of the video, the boys are apologizing for giving him a bad tuned guitar, and he tunes in.
Good musicians are not into putting shame on the others, but giving them advices.
Hate is not the way to share and learn, and you wouldn’t be a good musician with it.
Were you guys secretly testing a detuner pedal?
Thanks Lee Kiernan for being part of the JHS fun.
My Pulp -n - Peal literally was delivered the day this aired, and it has already been a game changer for my Bass board .I honestly don't know how Josh almost always uses single coil pick ups ,and doesn't use a comp! I have one on every guitar ,and Bass board I've ever built. My motto is "Compressors don't make cool sounds ,Compressors make you sound cool ".
I agree that IDLES guitar parts aren't particularly challenging, but their songs are all good. They get so much mileage out of just a few notes, a few chords, and some simple rhythms. And they have such a unique sound. They really stand out.
IDLES is hands down, the BEST band in 2022. Anyone doubting should listen to THE WHEEL, or MEDICATION. Thank you JHS
They don’t make bad music and they’re amazing live 🔥
maybe shouldve compared (and used) tuner pedals from the getgo..
...this guy is in a successful band? God maybe there is hope for me
Write and play like this, and you might be something someday ;) ruclips.net/video/wMehItNQKAA/видео.html
I youtubed them. He sounds just like this live!
Do you know how to play, earnestly care about what you're doing and potentially sing in key? If so, give up and go home.
Come on, listen to IDLES and understand that he tries pedals with his way of playing, and don’t be so mean, no one seems really an awesome guitarist while comparing pedals.
About the tuning, the guitar he plays is absolutely not one of his guitar, and if you go to the last part of the video, the boys are apologizing for giving him a bad tuned guitar, and he tunes in.
Good musicians are not into putting shame on the others, but giving them advices.
Hate is not the way to share and learn, and you wouldn’t be a good musician with it.
@leliobarandiaran5891 holy shit dude you've copied and pasted this comment waaaay too many times
IDLES are crazy - in a good way. Accurate tuning seems to be secondary, or even tertiary, consideration in their playing. If being a bit "off" makes their music a little bit more annoying, I think they're for it. They're not out to give anyone the warm fuzzies.
Mission accomplished
Thank you, JHS and Lee, for introducing me to Buc-ee's. It actually sounds pretty magical. We got nothing like it, in Sydney, Australia.
Dude. The Buck's is pretty killer. A definite welcome oasis after sitting through like a thousand butt rock bands to see Nine Inch Nails and then driving forever.
@@ryangunwitch-black Sadly no merch. I was hoping for a hoodie at least. ;)
Only reason to go to the South.
My hometown is the town where buc-ee's originated 😎
I want SO MANY of these! Let's test ALL the Behringers!
Could he A-B a tuner? Oh and the strings bleeding through his mic are kinda annoying. That said, I loved this vid!
If that guys a professional musician.. there’s hope for us all!
A tuned guitar would have been better
21 minutes in: "do you wanna take a second to tune?"
One word for this episode: TUNE!
Gotta make more "Can You Hear?"! Very informative and fun to watch! Definitely need a decibel meter to make sure the levels are matched though. Good job! Lots of fun!
IDLES are incredible and Ian seemed rad. Thoroughly enjoyed this episode
Yeah, incredible like his guitar skills and tuning?
@@lovecraftmusic8717 hey, not his fault you're not cool enough to hang with it.
@@aaronthompson1280 I'm not cool, I'm hot indeed
@@lovecraftmusic8717 I'm absolutely not cool. And I'm absolutely fine with that.
I lived at 2130 N. Pacific until last year. That’s directly across the street from Larry. I know him well. He still jams out on his guitar, in case you are wondering. But he primarily plays bass now. I’m still in contact with my old neighbors. I’ll make sure someone lets him know JHS has his pedal.
Not a joke. Larry still lives there.
@@CG-rf6nu I got plenty of pics. Block parties and the like.
This one killed me, hilarious. Lee needs in more episodes, the interactions between Josh & Lee is perfect
I have two Behringer UV300 modded with switchable slow rate mod. Sounds killer, absolutely recommend it.
Anywhere you can recommend to find mods for the uv300?
@@benjaminfowler4513 here you go my dude. ruclips.net/video/4cs1aRrFUyE/видео.html
Dear Mr Scott,
This is an excellent show format, I f'in love when you do these types of videos. Best guitar channel on RUclips by a long shot.
Not to be a sycophant but these videos have been so helpful for me to learn and realize how much I didn't really know about pedals. Between these blind comparisons and the one about behringer and caline, tc electronics, joyo and similar I've been able to acquire very good sounding pedals for very low investments. It's not that I wouldn't just buy your pedals because even for $100 to $250 they are excellent quality and totally worth it. But, I'm unable to invest that much because I'm permanently disabled and on a fixed income. But, because of your honesty and decency I've been able to acquire excellent substitute clones that I would have never been able to know what to get and how to make them work together so well without years of trial and error and wasted money. It's truly been a great help to someone who is disadvantaged and unable to acquire your excellent products. The bonsai pedal may be the single greatest pedal idea ever and ends any gear debates about which tubescreamer circuit to buy.
What you guys do I greatly appreciate, thank you.
Seeing Lee on here has me more pumped than I’ve ever been to watch a JHS video
"Everytime you eat at Subway you take a risk; We are not sponsored by Subway". - hilarious.
I don't think you guys even needed to plug his headphones in. Seems like a chill guy, but I don't think his ear is his strongest weapon.
Come on, listen to IDLES and understand that he tries pedals with his way of playing, and don’t be so mean, no one seems really an awesome guitarist while comparing pedals.
About the tuning, the guitar he plays is absolutely not one of his guitar, and if you go to the last part of the video, the boys are apologizing for giving him a bad tuned guitar, and he tunes in.
Good musicians are not into putting shame on the others, but giving them advices.
Hate is not the way to share and learn, and you wouldn’t be a good musician with it.
@@leliobarandiaran5891 His ear not being his strongest weapon doesn't mean that his playing or his music is bad.
There are guitarists that don't know how to string up their own guitars and could play circles around most players who can. They're different skill sets and they don't always overlap or impact each other.
The riffs that end up sticking with people are usually pretty easy to play. That's just strong songwriting propping up a simple riff to be something more because of the context it creates and the riff needed didn't need to be complicated.
Not making assumptions about anything other than his ear for pedals or tone.. which is what this episode was based around, not his playing or anything else.
Really should have tested a tuner pedal.
Is that tuning purposeful?
Topo Chico has been my primary drink for years.
The Behringer was just as good tone-wise as the Boss.
I'm with Addison, Vibrato is a great modulation. I've come to really dig it, but it's a 2 for me behind the glory mindfxck of PHASER...
Phaser its da Best 🧡🖤🧡
That’s where the goodness of the UNIVIBE lives babyyyy
The tuning is hard to get past.
Choose your guests wisely
This should have been titled "Can You Bear It?" Unfortunately, I could not.
Maybe to start they should do a tuner pedal shoot out.... And then base all further decisions off that...
That little 20$ pedal is my favorite thing I have on my pedal board. I've tried to replace it many times but never do.
I love this show. Please do it more often 🙏😊
Love the channel. Love IDLES. Lee is awesome. If I could make one request though, it would be someone tries to match the pedals as close as you can before filming. Maybe give them 5 minutes as well. I guess thats 2 requests
Could none of them hear just how bad that guitar sounded? It’s like a 7 year old strumming their Walmart first act waiting for their third Lesson at the local guitar shop 🫣🤮
Come on, listen to IDLES and understand that he tries pedals with his way of playing, and don’t be so mean, no one seems really an awesome guitarist while comparing pedals.
About the tuning, the guitar he plays is absolutely not one of his guitar, and if you go to the last part of the video, the boys are apologizing for giving him a bad tuned guitar, and he tunes in.
Good musicians are not into putting shame on the others, but giving them advices.
Hate is not the way to share and learn, and you wouldn’t be a good musician with it.
@@leliobarandiaran5891 The problem is that his way of playing clashes with the purpose of the show. It lacks any sense -especially the sense of hearing.
Have the Behringer Vibrato and Superfuzz. They’re both awesome. No complaints aside from could be more durable.
I really want to rehouse Behringer stuff in better cases with better input jacks. The dream is to make a double delay pedal with a couple VD400s.
I had their rotating speaker pedal, but sold it. It was phenomenal, but a little noisy. Just like every rotary sim I've tried. If you can find one (they're discontinued) buy it immediately. Don't even think.
Hey, my nephew is also British and also just started playing guitar, can he be on the next episode?
sorry i cant stop laughing. I had to even show my wife
I’ll stick up for compressors. They can be awesome… just never as an “always on.”
I use mine when I want to make things “smoother”, get clean sustain, sweeten a cleaner tone. The second I want to play with the dynamics of the amp again tho, that puppy’s off!
As far as compression goes, I’ve gone back and forth on whether or not I need mine on my board. I’ve been an always on compressor guy with every comp I’ve ever owned. I currently use the Walrus Deep 6. This is pretty much the only conclusion I’ve been able to reach: When it’s on, I don’t necessarily hear the difference. But when it’s off, I definitely do. So I keep it on my board and never turn it off. That being said, if you have a compressor, do what you want with it. Keep it always on, turn it off if you want. If you don’t have one and don’t want one, don’t worry about it I guess? 🤷🏼♂️
It really depends on what you're into playing. Bakersfield chicken pickin'? Always on compressor all day long. If you're playing blues through a cranked Fender tube amp, the compressor is going to kill all hope of having any dynamics. Djent? Smush it.
#alwayson
@@ryangunwitch-black yeah that's true, style definitely helps to determine use!
Had to stop this video to check out the Idles, as a band I love what they are doing but honestly couldn't stand listening to another moment of him playing by himself. I guess there is a reason why punk artists seldom venture into solo records.
Come on, listen to IDLES and understand that he tries pedals with his way of playing, and don’t be so mean, no one seems really an awesome guitarist while comparing pedals.
About the tuning, the guitar he plays is absolutely not one of his guitar, and if you go to the last part of the video, the boys are apologizing for giving him a bad tuned guitar, and he tunes in.
Good musicians are not into putting shame on the others, but giving them advices.
Hate is not the way to share and learn, and you wouldn’t be a good musician with it.
@@leliobarandiaran5891 Here's a news flash for you: not liking something isn't "hate" or "mean". People have every right to dislike anything they want, and you are not the arbiter of that.
I actually got into that behringer vibrato, thanks to Juan Alderete (Racer X, The Mars Volta, Big Sir, Vato Negro, Marilyn Manson) and his OG pedal RUclips show "Pedals and Effects".
If it is good enough for him, its good enough for me.
And mine still hasnt break. Hurray
Ah man I forgot about his channel
All the Behringer pedals are stellar. I bought a bunch for my kid when he was starting out. As he progressed, we upgraded to the more expensive versions. We actually ended up keeping more of the Behringer pedals and selling the upgrades.
Juan's the man! 🤘🤘 I miss Pedals And Effects, but he's probably still focusing on recovering after his incident. I just hope he's doing well, the man's a legend
@@orryfishburne5326 i never do. For me, He started all this FX RUclips Channel thing. Another trailblazing thing he has done.
@@Wargasm54 they are ok! Especially for the price. The Analog circuits clone are really awesome no doubt. Altough in some cases there are a few things wich i prefer the OG instead of the clone. Boss Tr tremolo still sounds more warm and not as harsh or cold as the Behringer clone...and its only 40/50 € usually.
But this Vibrato vs the Original Boss VB wich Costs hundreds? No brainer. And it actually doesnt seem that different and for example the tremolo comparison.
Joy as an act of resistance got me into punk, they're incredible live and fantastic people! JHS are legends and so is Lee!
Out of time? More like out of tune
That was actually hard to watch
Even harder to listen to
I play mostly acoustic but bought a bunch of Behringer pedals during covid when Sweetwater had them marked down. I wanted to know what various pedals did. My thought process at the time was, "an octave pedal for under $20.00?" Send it to me now! They have all been great fun. Given the adjustment knobs on my guitar, the amp, and the pedals I believe most pedals can be useful in the right context. Keep up the great work!
I've built a Morning Glory pedal, I know the only difference between the actual Bluesbreaker and a Morning Glory is that the latter is louder. Different input cap and an output recovery stage for more volume. When in doubt always pick the softer pedal as the vintage one.
His playing is challenging
We need much more of Lee.
This is the best crossover episode I’ve ever watched
The irony of finally tuning the guitar before the vibrato shootout is not lost on me. I was 2/3, but in each case, I'd have to say I liked the new pedal better. There was just some clarity to them. Except the vibrators. As presented, they both sounded unusable.
I honestly had to stop watching but I still gave it a thumbs up. Love you guys.
It's just so hard on the ears!!!
Come on, listen to IDLES and understand that he tries pedals with his way of playing, and don’t be so mean, no one seems really an awesome guitarist while comparing pedals.
About the tuning, the guitar he plays is absolutely not one of his guitar, and if you go to the last part of the video, the boys are apologizing for giving him a bad tuned guitar, and he tunes in.
Good musicians are not into putting shame on the others, but giving them advices.
Hate is not the way to share and learn, and you wouldn’t be a good musician with it.
Never heard a demo so out of tune...and a "rock star" be so oblivious... saying the pedals were disgusting? Um...🤔😳😔
Great! Now all the Berhinger pedals are gonna be $100 since Josh did a video.
it's a shame they didn't test a cheap vs expensive tuner.
I saw IDLES in lollapalooza Argentina, it was an insane show. There was such an amazing and violent mosh pit, I loved it. Since that day I'm a big fan of them.
You have to see the beef jerky bar to fully appreciate it.
We were blessed with so many videos this week, thank you!
“Have I though? …or am I saving their lives?“ 👏😂
I sold my JHS Angry Charly and Charlie Brown V4 because my Marshall Guv'nor sounds better. I sold my JHS Bonsai because my 1980 TS808, my 1984 TS-9, my 1986 TS-10, my 1979 Boss OD-1 and my 1980 OD-1 sound better. I sold my JHS 808 for the same reason, and also the Moonshine V1. I did'nt compare my JHS Morning Glory V1 against the Marshall BluesBreaker, but I sold it also. Don't get me wrong, all JHS Pedals sounded good, but my originals just sounded better, otherwise I would have kept the JHS Pedals. Same with the Keeley Pedals, with one exeption: I still own an Keeley A/B-looper.
They haven't had a $5 footlong in like 15 years
Lee's an actual musician and I like his band and all but saying that a compressor is something that makes your sound a bit louder is a gross understatement. The compressor will even your dynamics making quiet parts louder and viceversa, thus allowing your sound to get generally louder but it is a consequence of this and not the only thing happening.
Bought the behringer analog delay because of this channel. Best $19 spent.
How about tuning and someone who can play so we can really here the difference instead of trash
Next time you invite someone to play please make sure they can actually play!!!!😅😊😮😎
First pedal shootout should have been tuners
Tuning for the vibrato pedal 😂
In 2012, my first guitar teacher who had no idea about the value of old Boss pedals sold 5 fully functional vintage Bosses (including a VB-2 and CE-2) for about $20 each and got a Zoom G2. I had only been playing for a few years back then but I still had my jaw smashing the floor when he broke the news to me. I'm from India so while his cluelessness was excusable, what made it sadder was that he was down on his luck and even if he'd got $100 for each, it'd have brought about genuine change in his life.
This is f******g painful. I don't know this guy or his band at all. I'm just questioning a guy's ability to analyze tone if he can't tell if his guitar is in tune.
I honestly thought this episode was a goof. I even laughed thinking they drove down to a local Walmart and grabbed some random guy and gave him a phony back story and put a guitar in his hands to demo pedals. Pretty funny idea I thought. Then I RUclips'd and found they were a real band and really sound like this live. Then I wept about the future of music..
He knew. It's a Reverb exclusive Gibson SG... what do you want?
You certainly are not blaming the guitar are you?
After the number of tuning comments I lost it at the end of the video when they said 'Thanks for tuning in'
My ears are hurting with this UNTUNNED guitar!!!
I couldn’t listen to that tuning…. Yikes
Simultaneously the best and worst of these "Can you Hear it?" shows. Trying to swing - schedule-wise - seeing Idels, either in Boston or NYC. If you are unfamiliar with them, I suggest their From the Basement appearance available here on youtube.
4 JHS Pedal Shows in a week. Best. Week. Ever.
I love Josh name dropping Pat Sansone