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I've been running my 208cc Duromax 7 hp XP7HPE, for some time now, with no issues, but after my last time out fishing i noticed some knock, so this video was extremely helpful, Thanks great Video! 🤙🏽
Thank you for naming the tools I had to return 2 of these because stripped the rod bolts bad because I used a 7mm which fit until it stripped and now I’m realizing I need a whole new socket set
So I had a billet rod in my motor for a while but I just changed out my bearings because they were very worn out I also installed a flat top piston and I checked my oil clearance it was good at .003 and now when I tourqe down my rod bolts it won’t spin the only thing in the motor is the rod and crank and piston I’m very confused please lmk if you have any ideas what it could be
@@masonfalc hmmm it’s not able to spin? Is the rod hitting the case or possibly it’s not installed right on the crankshaft? Is the motor in time are the marks lined up?
No you don’t have to use it! I chose to use it as it’s pretty inexpensive and everything is apart anyways. It’s a new part so why not. And it also bumps up comprehension a little bit👍🏼
Yes you have to. This is probably the biggest part of the whole installation and I wouldn’t skimp on it. It needs to be torqued to spec and you can buy a budget torque wrench at a hardware store for $25-$40. If you over tighten it you could strip the threads and your screwed or if you don’t tighten it enough it can come apart while the motor is running and everything will get dismantled.
So for the rod I know there are different versions will this work with the 6254 arc billet stock length rod on Amazon some people are telling me to clearance the block and some people are saying to just send it and it will clearance itself i don’t know what I’m doing at all but the video helps allot
Heck yeah I’m glad! Hmm very weird. If your gonna get it I would get it straight from arc. Also I’ve never had any issues or anything clearance issues either so I’m not sure if that’s just a different rod or something. Also if it’s hitting a bit I wouldn’t let it self clear I would use a dermal and sand it down till it doesn’t hit
I didn’t and in my opinion that is not needed on a new or lightly used motor. If your motor has been neglected or ran super hard then I would highly suggest that you do as your crankshaft can be worn to much and would need to be replaced for a proper installation
Hey guido this video was a life saver I just installed my cam rod champ rockers I had some issues getting the piston in but I did it when I spin the crank the rod is not hitting anything but the crank makes a sorta like a grinding noise but when I put the side cover in it doesn’t do that anymore is this normal?
When the motor is all assembled and doesn’t make any noise you should be good. I would look inside the motor again and make sure everything is all lined up and as it should and make sure everything is all lubricated.
@@Guido19I found out what it was on the coil for the flywheel it was rubbing because the side cover wasn’t holding it up so when I put the side cover on it turns smooth
@@Guido19 alright thanks man and one more thing if I’m taking out the oil sensor can I just leave the thingy in there so I don’t have to drill a hole if that makes sense
Hey so i accidentally torqued the rod to 13.5 ft pounds so 162 inch pounds. I was gonna take it back apart and torque it to spec but I’m wondering if I need to take out my cam and valves to do so
I’m new to this stuff I know that you need a new rod and fly wheel if you remove or bypass the governor but this looks complicated did someone help you the first time or did you just dive in and hope for the best lol
Yes and no haha! So you don’t necessarily need a billet rod or flywheel but it is 100% strongly recommended. I’ve rode on a governor delete motor with stock internals for a long time and as long as your careful don’t over rev the motor and take care of it your fine but it most definitely is worth the reliability and performance for sure! And no I have learned and self taught myself by working on these motors or watching RUclips videos. When you open these motors up it’s very easy and hard to mess up I would say personally speaking. As long as your timing lines up for the cam and the crankshaft when re installing everything your pretty much 100% and with the flywheel it can really only go on one way.
You don't have to pull the piston to replace the rod. Beats buying the compressor to reinstall. Instead, pull the crank shaft out and push the piston downward. Enough to pull the snap ring and slide the wrist pin out
This motor has already been ran in so I would let it run and idle for maybe 5 minutes and then go for a gentle cruise then change the oil. For a brand new motor where everything is new I would let the motor rn and idle for around 10 and change the oil.
I am planning on going with a bigger cam later on I wanted to see how it would run with this one. I’m interested to see how it does with a bigger one as I currently hit 70 mph on the 265 cam
No, the crankshaft journal of a 212 ghost measures in at 1.180” the regular 212 measures in at 1.187ish inches. Everything else should work though. You would need the rod the fits the bigger crankshaft journal, or the 6254 billet rod from ARC
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The billet rod is a must if you ever want to race or upgrade
Exactly!🤝🏻
Just got a mini bike a months ago and started rebuilding it for the first time video helped a lot man thank you!
Awesome I’m glad it did!!
I've been running my 208cc Duromax 7 hp XP7HPE, for some time now, with no issues, but after my last time out fishing i noticed some knock, so this video was extremely helpful, Thanks great Video! 🤙🏽
I’m glad it helped thank you!
Thank you for naming the tools I had to return 2 of these because stripped the rod bolts bad because I used a 7mm which fit until it stripped and now I’m realizing I need a whole new socket set
Ahhh bummer it happens thankfully bolts aren’t too much
You did a really nice job with this video!
Thank you!
What socket size is it for the upgraded rod? I just ordered a set of 12pts and nothing fits
So I had a billet rod in my motor for a while but I just changed out my bearings because they were very worn out I also installed a flat top piston and I checked my oil clearance it was good at .003 and now when I tourqe down my rod bolts it won’t spin the only thing in the motor is the rod and crank and piston I’m very confused please lmk if you have any ideas what it could be
@@masonfalc hmmm it’s not able to spin? Is the rod hitting the case or possibly it’s not installed right on the crankshaft? Is the motor in time are the marks lined up?
Is the flat top Piston a must or can you get away with useing thw stock piston with a billet rod.
No you don’t have to use it! I chose to use it as it’s pretty inexpensive and everything is apart anyways. It’s a new part so why not. And it also bumps up comprehension a little bit👍🏼
@@Guido19 what about durability wise is either piston stronger then the other
@@OpAfAnx I would probably say pretty close to the same or the flat top is a little stronger the way it’s designed and reinforced.
do i have to torque everything to spec? i dont have a torque wrench and im trynna do it myself
Yes you have to. This is probably the biggest part of the whole installation and I wouldn’t skimp on it. It needs to be torqued to spec and you can buy a budget torque wrench at a hardware store for $25-$40. If you over tighten it you could strip the threads and your screwed or if you don’t tighten it enough it can come apart while the motor is running and everything will get dismantled.
On this build did you use the +20 rod with 570 flat top piston?
Gonna be doing this soon. Got the 30 dollars more gonna go with the ARC Rod!! 😎
So with a brand new 212 am I gonna have to worry about clearance at all?
People always say check the clearance of it but in all reality if it’s a brand new motor your should have no issues
So for the rod I know there are different versions will this work with the 6254 arc billet stock length rod on Amazon some people are telling me to clearance the block and some people are saying to just send it and it will clearance itself i don’t know what I’m doing at all but the video helps allot
Heck yeah I’m glad! Hmm very weird. If your gonna get it I would get it straight from arc. Also I’ve never had any issues or anything clearance issues either so I’m not sure if that’s just a different rod or something. Also if it’s hitting a bit I wouldn’t let it self clear I would use a dermal and sand it down till it doesn’t hit
Thanks for this video, great job man
What torque wrench are you using, my torque wrench is a 3/8 drive and it's too big to fit inside the block.
I used a 1/4. It just barely fits
Can you link where you got the clutch
I unfortunately don’t have a link but it’s just a 12 tooth Amazon clutch that is surprisingly amazing
Good video 👍I just messed up my piston rod from a botched governor removal lol
Thank you! Bummer! Luckly parts are cheap haha
@@Guido19 absolutely 👍you can't even tell we are in inflated times when it comes to small engines and small engine parts super cheap 👍
did you check the gap with plastic gage or do you not have to that?
I didn’t and in my opinion that is not needed on a new or lightly used motor. If your motor has been neglected or ran super hard then I would highly suggest that you do as your crankshaft can be worn to much and would need to be replaced for a proper installation
Can you make a video of putting it all back together, please
Hey guido this video was a life saver I just installed my cam rod champ rockers I had some issues getting the piston in but I did it when I spin the crank the rod is not hitting anything but the crank makes a sorta like a grinding noise but when I put the side cover in it doesn’t do that anymore is this normal?
When the motor is all assembled and doesn’t make any noise you should be good. I would look inside the motor again and make sure everything is all lined up and as it should and make sure everything is all lubricated.
If it’s not hitting anything inside you should be good to go
@@Guido19I found out what it was on the coil for the flywheel it was rubbing because the side cover wasn’t holding it up so when I put the side cover on it turns smooth
@@joshua4o883 well there you go sometimes it’s the simple stuff glad you got it worked oht
Did you have any problems with the clearance over time ??
@@Wab2007 nope no clearance issues!
@@Guido19 alright thanks man and one more thing if I’m taking out the oil sensor can I just leave the thingy in there so I don’t have to drill a hole if that makes sense
@@Guido19 and did you replace the head gasket
@@Wab2007 yeah you can!
@@Wab2007 yeah cause a new one came with a kit that I got. But if it still looks good then you can reuse the same one
Hey so i accidentally torqued the rod to 13.5 ft pounds so 162 inch pounds. I was gonna take it back apart and torque it to spec but I’m wondering if I need to take out my cam and valves to do so
@@Wab2007 hmm you might have enough access to just take out the cam and torque it down or you might be able to work around it
Can i re use the head gasket
I would recommend getting a new one but if it’s in great condition then you can reuse it
Is that ok to just barley let the rod clear like that?
Yes it is a very close fit. On diffrent motors or circumstances you may have to clearance it
Yea I have a brand new hemi so I think it should clarance pretty well@@Guido19
@@alexcaracal1017 oh yeah you should be good then
I’m new to this stuff I know that you need a new rod and fly wheel if you remove or bypass the governor but this looks complicated did someone help you the first time or did you just dive in and hope for the best lol
Yes and no haha! So you don’t necessarily need a billet rod or flywheel but it is 100% strongly recommended. I’ve rode on a governor delete motor with stock internals for a long time and as long as your careful don’t over rev the motor and take care of it your fine but it most definitely is worth the reliability and performance for sure! And no I have learned and self taught myself by working on these motors or watching RUclips videos. When you open these motors up it’s very easy and hard to mess up I would say personally speaking. As long as your timing lines up for the cam and the crankshaft when re installing everything your pretty much 100% and with the flywheel it can really only go on one way.
You don't have to pull the piston to replace the rod. Beats buying the compressor to reinstall. Instead, pull the crank shaft out and push the piston downward. Enough to pull the snap ring and slide the wrist pin out
Yeah! I pulled it out because while I filmed this video I also installed a 70mm flat top piston as well. I made a separate video on that.
Funny , can I see your arm in the way again ? Sarcasm .. step by step only you can’t see the steps , nice arm though .. lol
break in period?
This motor has already been ran in so I would let it run and idle for maybe 5 minutes and then go for a gentle cruise then change the oil. For a brand new motor where everything is new I would let the motor rn and idle for around 10 and change the oil.
Yo good job my Man you know your shit well I will subscribe
Thank you bro! I appreciate it!
Good demostration but why not put a race cam and race piston
Ok you did go with a flat top piston
I am planning on going with a bigger cam later on I wanted to see how it would run with this one. I’m interested to see how it does with a bigger one as I currently hit 70 mph on the 265 cam
Will the billet rod,piston,billet flywheel, for a 212 predator Ghost work inside the 212 predator hemi
Yes! I believe they will bolt up!
With out damaging anything
@@chadwest9115 yeah it should fit as they are the same motors
No, the crankshaft journal of a 212 ghost measures in at 1.180” the regular 212 measures in at 1.187ish inches. Everything else should work though. You would need the rod the fits the bigger crankshaft journal, or the 6254 billet rod from ARC
Thank you