I’ve been driving mine for 14 months now, took it out to the trails a few times, traveled with my family and our trailer across Canada and the US (a 9000km trip!) and it’s been flawless. I’m a Toyota fanboy out of a 4Runner and I would recommend this Pro 4X to anyone who is on the market.
I was obsessed with the new Frontier, and still am. I did take one for a test drive, and only had two complaints. The first is that the headrests in the cloth interior are absolute trash. The second is that the backup camera is terrible quality.
@@APOSTLESDOCTRINEPHOENIXI own a 23 Pro4X. No real cons to speak of except maybe fuel economy but you've got a NA V6 still so that isn't really a con. Truck is comfy and does everything I need it to do well. No regrets at all
Even the older style Nissan Frontier is a fantastic truck. Ease of getting in and out, comfortable seats, easy to clean interior, great sight over the hood, torquey big displacement v6, reliable, large rear diff, and just built strong. 20-21 give you the updated power train with the older looks. They’re incredibly underserved.
I had a 2017 frontier and a few vehicles since, I just bought a 2024 frontier and love it. Modern but not overly complicated and an excellent value. Tacomas are overrated and overpriced, great trucks though.
I bought my two-year-old tundra for 28 k in 2013. I definitely understand inflation, however! Vehicle pricing inflation seems to be outpacing everything.
@@michaeljenks6259 exactly, our issue with these prices isn't that they've increased. It's that they've increased in such massive disproportion to everything else, including wages, that it's almost.comical at this point.
Just stop buying these over priced vehicles and let’s see what the dealerships do. But we got these people that love living paycheck to paycheck and making these purchases they really can’t afford.
Agree completely. In 2016 I bought an F 150 Lariat 4x4 for 40K. MSRP of $51,700 but with discounts and rebate it was $40,200. I would like to get a new truck but these prices are crazy!
I have a '22 Pro4x and love it. It's a simple, honest truck. Doesn't have the fancy Turbo-4 or drive modes of the new GM and Ford offerings, but does exactly what I ask it to do. I actually love that it has an old school naturally aspirated V6.
Tommy, I couldn’t agree more. I’ve had my ‘22 Pro-4X for a year now and put 20k mikes on it and absolutely love it. Thought about a Taco, but being taller I couldn’t get comfortable in it. I also wanted a naturally aspirated engine as turbos don’t lend to longevity.
I think Nissan hit it outta the park with the new Frontier. I appreciate the simplicity of the engine, the interior and the overall design. My one reservation is the near-90-degree angle of the back seat. My kids won’t last long for big trips back there, the taco has a more gradual angle. But maybe that’s a compromise they would accept if / when the time comes. I’m also eager to see what the long term reliability is on these.
Frontier= Crawl ratio 60:1 fully boxed titan frame (ability to titan swap suspension/engine) , Dana 44 locking rear (pro4x) , dana front diff, spicer transfer case, powerful vq motor, rear disc brakes, bullet proof and made in USA. Tacoma= 33:1 crawl ratio, C channel frame (on going corrosion frame recalls) , rear drum brakes, now made in Mexico, reliability declining and Toyota tax.
I have the 23 Nissan frontier SV crew cab with 6ft bed, and it turns like a boat, I love the simplicity and I hope Nissan doesn’t change much on the frontier, Great truck!
Have 2022 SV 4X4 since October 2021, so it's one of the very first ones 18 months and 29k miles later and no problems. Been a awesome truck. Had a 2004 previously for 16 years and 300K miles, this one should do the same.
Hey TFL! Thanks for the great review. You are absolutely right, this Frontier is most probably the best value for the money in the mid size pick-up truck category🤩. I just order my very own Pro-X4 and can’t wait to get it! Keep up the good work guys 👍. Cheers.
Dude, you are about to go in debt almost 50,000.00 with a nasty monthly payment for a Nissan Frontier.... that's terrifying and if you stop and think about it, 50,000.00 dollars....for a Nissan. Ouch. But, it is a cool truck.
I like the looks of the truck, but I would not be compelled to buy this one at $47k still. Maybe 37. I'd be all in at $35k otd. Not that I'm buying a $60k GM either. Too much $$$ for any mid to full size trucks these days.
They're a lot cheaper used. No way I'd ever buy a new vehicle but one that's 3 years old is basically just broken in for you and usually $10-15k less than the new ones (talking about the frontiers here).
Actually there is a problem with Toyota and the Atkinson cycle engine. And the GM twins are using that insipid Dynamic Fuel Management bullshit and cylinder deactivation.
@@paulsharp8802 I agree with you 100% , this new subscription for features system many car manufacturers doing right now is simply crazy. I seen Toyota offer heated seats on subscription plan!!!
Love these new trucks and reviews! What a lot of people are saying about pricing getting sky high, I agree with. But, my old tundra that is still driving fantastically is almost bare bones and was 35k brand new with four-wheel drive. We don't really need all this fancy equipment. If we stopped buying the high-end trims, we don't have to worry about these inflated prices. If we just stick to the base models as far as our purchasing decisions go, the base entry-level market would probably get more competitive.
I love my 2024 pro4x , solid truck for sure . Could turn a little tighter . My truck fully loaded was $48,680 . I do recommend this truck . Pricey yes , but they all are especially fully loaded. I picked it because it wasn't a 4 banger turbo.
I wasn’t looking at this truck but came across a review, did a lot of research…then picked up a 2023 Frontier Pro 4x a month ago. Tactical green. Added 33 KO2 tires, 2.5 lift, four front cube lights, additional window tint, black exhaust tip and other items. And FYI…the 2023 pro 4x with leather does have the contrast stitching. It looks great and people that I don’t know keep asking me about it. They always love it.
Times changing, years ago i would consider this car flashy and too complicated as 4x4... nowdays i think its perfect. Its bad car if your decision is based on options in brochure... but its perfect if You need smaller work truck/overlander. In era when even New Defender didnt got simple rear axle locker, this simplicity is astonishing.,
Disagree is some points. I love Nissan and actually had a hardbody back in the day, but I live in Wyoming and drive at altitude a lot. I had aTaco 12 TRD Off Road. I drove a Ranger with turbo and I was shocked at how much better the powertrain was. Night and day. The turbo doesn't turn to crap as elevation increased like NA engine. Love Nissan, but I am never ever going back to NA engines. 35K in and zero issues and I hammer my Ranger, If Nissan went turbo I would consider it.
Sad to see that its a foreign company like Nissan that is still building trucks like TRUCKS. Sure, the interuor isnt up to that of nice crossovers, but its a TRUCK, which should always be function over form. So many new trucks are decked out with all the gizmos, screens instead of actual gages...all expensive things that will break over time
I’ve had my ‘22 Pro-4X since September of 2021 and I’ve been very satisfied with it. I wanted a Tacoma since the early 2000s until I sat in one. I’m only 5’10” and about 180 lbs and the driver’s seat was just too uncomfortable for me.
@@indycharlie For the Ridgeline buyers, a frame would be a negative. Unibody lends to comfort. Oddly enough, it also aids payload. It's a different kind of buyer. Just not for me.
Yes , and in my ,and lots of working people and ones that go off the beaten path . The Ridgeline , along with the Maverick and the Kia vehicles like them , are not trucks . They cannot be used for what the "truck " was designed for . One year of farm or construction work or moderate off roading would destroy these frameless vehicles. That said , as sales show . There is a need for these vehicles for multi , non heavy use . @@Ichibuns
I've had my 2022 Frontier SV LWB (long wheel base) for almost a year now and LOVE it. Super quiet on the highway, tracks like a train on rails, and a solid, quality interior to boot. It's an absolute pleasure to drive. Does a great job towing my 4,500LB travel trailer. I've always owned Toyota trucks...but I hated the 2022 Tacoma (anemic V6, terrible driving position, crude and noisy) and the 2023 Tacoma has a turbo 4, which is an automatic no sale. Toyota really let me down, but Nissan built me the perfect Tacoma. Thanks Nissan :)
@@fonz-ys6xu Back in the 80's when it happened in a Chev or Dodge when the radio knob or window crank fell off, it was time to sell the vehicle because the transmission would go shortly after. Or everything else inside would fall off and it would nickel and dime you to death.
It’s been a hidden gem for decades. My 2017 Pro 4x, which I have had since new, has been the most worry free lowest maintenance vehicle I have ever owned. Not a squeak or rattle with 50,000 miles on it. Very capable truck, on and off road. I looked at the new ones (starting in 2020 with the 3.8 l engine and new transmission) but availability and extra costs made me realize my 2017 is still a great value. Two things annoy me about it 1) gas mileage is terrible 2) really bad turning radius. That’s it. Great review by the way.
I am very tempted to get one. The only thing holding me back is that it has the worst fuel economy of the midsize segment. I would totally get one if gas were more affordable right now.
I was looking at these and Tacomas recently for a new pickup. The frontier, at least here, was $3k more for a pro-4x over a trd off road. Only thing the Frontier had over the Tacoma was blind spot monitoring. That was only a $800 option for the Toyota.
@@oogleboogle123456789 Drum brakes work just fine, semi trucks have drum brakes. Why are you triggered by the simple fact that Toyota has better resale value due to proven reliability?
@@atodaso1668 why are you triggered when someone brings up drum brakes?😂 And no, they're not fine. And semi trucks use jake brakes but I'm sure you knew that but just forgot to mention it lol
I have owned this truck for about 10 months and it has yet to put a foot wrong. I immediately changed out the Hancooks (a street casing with an AT tread) for Wildpeak AT3W in 255/80 17 (33.1") and they fit! Being 11lbs heavier than the Hancooks has caused some tireshake at times, the stock Bilsteins will need to be upgraded. The infotainment system is at times maddeningly laggy and sometimes becomes inactive artwork (dealer updates have had NO effect). Do love the truck overall. Would love to see what a stock truck on 33's would do at "The Ranch". Love your work.
Now that I live in the mountains at 5000+ ft, I want FI/turbo and 400ft lbs in my midsize truck :). Patiently waiting on the new Colorado/Canyons. I did own a Pro-4X Nissan Titan from 2012-2016 (replaced with a RAM Powerwagon, now a '20 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon) and LOVED my Titan. If the frontier had more tq I would definitely entertain it. I'm craving another pickup now.
I bought my Fully loaded Pro4X last month and its my favorite truck I’ve ever had! It’s Simple, has all the “luxury” Amenities that I need/want without everything that I dont need.
Very solid truck, I got my 22 Pro4X without heated seats and moon roof and the 360 camera and it was quite a bit cheaper. I can fit a baby car seat in the rear with just barely enough space for my seat to be in the position I like (I’m 5ft10) Other than that it’ll be my family vehicle for years to come. 2 years of ownership in late august and almost 25K miles without a single issue.
@@IzaguirreC The Tacoma and Tundra has had issues especially the first three years in production. They have same issues as most modern manufacturers. This isn't the 80s anymore. Tacoma's interior outdated, tech is outdated, engine is way outdated. The new one will hopefully be way better. Though I'm not thrilled about the look. May be a small version of the Tundra which is blah.
@@uowebfoot Toyota sticks to a platform for a while before a refresh. Look at the second gen 05-15, now the third 16-23. The loaded models have most of the needed features. Resale is also king. I sold my 2020 a few weeks ago for 39k, I paid 39.5k out the door when new. I’m waiting for the refresh as it will be reliable in comparison to ford, Chevy and Nissan.
@@Papolucho702 same here. It is a big truck. Has the front marker lights. Last of the old school V8 trucks imo. I am fortunate to acquire mine for $44,944 all decked out from the factory. Won't find many on the roads. So won't look like everyone else driving around. Very low production and it is built in Mississippi. 🇺🇸
Looks is well-featured without gouging customer's wallets. GM is my go-to for this segment but this is now at the top of my list. I hope the Frontier poaches many of the Colorado's customers to bring the astronomical GM pricing back down to earth.
I just ordered a 2024 in a King Cab 6ft bed 4x4 SV trim in Gray Metallic should be here in 6 to 8 wks. I didn't want the Tech package but they changed it so in 2024 if you want the Conv. package you have to take the tech package with it. This was not the case with the 2023.
Love the Frontier... I was about to buy one... Instead @tflnow Tommy talked me into the 2022 GMC Canyon after he drove the AT4 with the performance package... I went with the Elevation... comes with G80... put the 1 inch level in all 3 skids from GM and went up a tire size for 9.6" of clearance and rocker protection..... works well for the offroading I do. Have 20k KM's or about 12 and a Half thousand miles on it now.
The Frontier has ABLS which is ATRAC just with out a button, Crawl control is a gimmick which you don't actually use and buying 16 in tires your options are very limited.
So many car companies do an led 3rd break light and halogen everywhere else. The frontier is the exact opposite. Every light on the exterior of the pro4x is led except the third break light.
Not gonna lie it's funny to me after you kinda bashed it a bit in the comparison of trucks awhile back but that infotainment was just hilarious. I'd look into a 2023 in a few years myself
My only complaint with my 2023 model is the connectivity with hands free, iOS lives to randomly just disconnect while the phone remains in connection for Bluetooth.. you have to reconnect it through settings. Very frustrating especially while needing GPS.
@@PoppaSnipe yeah, I’m not trying to impress anyone in my Taco, but it’s a great reliable pickup when maintained and there’s a track record to prove it. I’m always pleasantly surprised by both its comfort on road and abilities off road.
Sometimes something less flashy and less computerized is a good thing. There's a certain appeal for something a little old fashioned and less gee-whizzy. I feel the Frontier gives you what you need.
I don't know, I'm spoiled from my $26,000 GTI. Now I see cheap grey interior hard plastics and get pretty turned off from a new car. Why can't $40,000 Nissan's and the big three be as nice on the inside as a $26,000 GTI? There is nothing wrong with the design just the materials.
@@jeffk464 if you could use your GTI like a truck would those materials hold up as well? Plenty of trucks have very nice interior materials, but for work trucks or more off-road oriented trucks would those materials hold up if a person used those trucks as intended?
Went to an auto show and looked at the NIssan Frontier. Saw the payload capacity- under 1000 pounds and that was a no buy. The price goes up and the truck part (payload) goes down.
Toyota has finally worked all the issues out of the current Tacoma. It should be a very reliable truck now. It's literally the only truck on the market that Consumer Reports rates as reliable.
@@uowebfoot Irrelevant, it's a good looking design and it's aged well. Couldn't care less about the tech in it so long as I can Bluetooth a phone for hands free calling and music.
ZR2 starts at $46k with a front locker, lift, rock sliders, cut away bumpers, off road tires, and trick suspension. The Frontier is a good truck, but the ZR2 is a great deal
I drove a new crew cab pro-4x as a rental in and around Anchorage AK for a week last fall. Everything about it during my experience was good. Ride was okay, seats were great for up to 3 hours straight, road noise not bad at all. Only reason I'd probably not buy one is the lack of space in the back seat, then again the Ranger isn't any better. I also like the width of the cab, unlike the GM twins. I haven't seen a new generation GM, but from anything I've seen, like on TFL, there is no evidence the new cab is any wider inside.
I think its expensive for what you get... a lot of old tech in this new truck, feels like an old interior with a new screen on the dash, doesn't lead the class in anything so it will be a middle grade truck for a top tier price.
could you do a review on the frontier SV 4x4 4door midnight long bed. i think that is might be a great everyday driver with the best of midsized and fullsized combined.
I really like almost everything about the new gen Frontier (interior already looks a bit dated though). I just wish they undercut the competition a little bit more. Same with the Titan. Nissan only has itself to blame with that one. If they built The Warrior concept they would have sold like hotcakes
Try doing that to knobs in a 10 to 15 year old Infiniti Tommy, would be hilarious to see someone try. Ask Nathan, he used to cover them pretty well on this channel. Infiniti's golden era.
Sorry old school here, no chrome no sale, plus you can’t order the truck you want. The factory sends the trucks to dealers and you buy what they want you to buy. You may have to shop many dealers in several states to find what you want. Example; I wanted a crew cab SV 2WD with a 6’ bed. I was in central FL, dealer searched and found one in GA but not the color I wanted, plus the dealer added $11,650 market upgrade charge, I walked away.
I wanted a simple and reliable truck for my property in Big Bend. I've taken it on a bunch of trails out there and it's tackled everything with ease. I prefer the fact it doesn't have a bunch of drive modes; 4x low, rear locker, gas, and brake.
Please tell that Radio Knob only got loose after you hit a really bad dip or pot hole off roading or maybe you pulled to hard? Cuz if it was like that brand new then it’s a quality issue and I don’t feel confident waiting for my 23 PRO 4X in April
I like the frontier, but really wish new trucks actually came with a two seater, simple interior, and an 8 foot bed. These small trucks are nothing more than just cars with small beds on the back of them.
Unreal the prices..... What used to be a Nissan hard body mini truck..... I really only want 4x4 limited slip, keyless entry, cruise control, AC and connect to my phone... That's it. That doesn't cost 35k or weigh 4k lbs .....
I’m sure it’s not a bad truck, but in the segment where all the trucks are really good this one just doesn’t stand out and its not a value proposition either soo yea thats why Nissan dealers a loaded with inventory. Also resale is dismal on these as well, 37k new perhaps. Interior looks dated as well with the exception of the infotainment screen.
A review with no mention of transmission? Nissan's new 9sp debuted in 2020 Titan - I believe developed with Mercedes - recalled for programming and parking pawl repair
The programming was voluntary the parking pawl didn’t affect all Frontier Pro-4x. My 2022 was not effected by the parking pawl recall and I had the programming done but wasn’t required.
A 23 colorado trail boss with most of the options is 40k sticker. The nissan is priced in line with the rest of the segment. And you have to pay $500 to add a hitch. I def wouldn't compare pro4x to a ZR2.
I have one, the tech is dated, the cruise control goes up too 5K RPM to accel 4 mph. It looks good and is powerful but the trans and tech lets the truck down.
I was interested in it, but decided it was a hard pass when I found out it had direct injection only, and no port injection too. I'm not a fan of having to have my intake valves cleaned every 30k miles or so.
I’ve been driving mine for 14 months now, took it out to the trails a few times, traveled with my family and our trailer across Canada and the US (a 9000km trip!) and it’s been flawless. I’m a Toyota fanboy out of a 4Runner and I would recommend this Pro 4X to anyone who is on the market.
Good to know thanks!
I'm thinking of a 23 or 24 Frontier any major pros and cons so far ?
I was obsessed with the new Frontier, and still am. I did take one for a test drive, and only had two complaints. The first is that the headrests in the cloth interior are absolute trash. The second is that the backup camera is terrible quality.
@@APOSTLESDOCTRINEPHOENIXI own a 23 Pro4X. No real cons to speak of except maybe fuel economy but you've got a NA V6 still so that isn't really a con. Truck is comfy and does everything I need it to do well. No regrets at all
Cheers to being a Toyota fan boy and now driving a 23 Nissan Titan 🤟
Even the older style Nissan Frontier is a fantastic truck. Ease of getting in and out, comfortable seats, easy to clean interior, great sight over the hood, torquey big displacement v6, reliable, large rear diff, and just built strong. 20-21 give you the updated power train with the older looks. They’re incredibly underserved.
I had a 2017 frontier and a few vehicles since, I just bought a 2024 frontier and love it. Modern but not overly complicated and an excellent value. Tacomas are overrated and overpriced, great trucks though.
I would love to see the xterra pro4x come back with this new design
soild rear axle 2 rows of seats good alt to the 4Runner TRD off road
I agree. Simple NA V6, add a front locker and keep the pricing affordable.
I believe they are making one Frontier based rather than unibody.
I agree! Nissan North America needs it IMO!
I wish the Pathfinder had been based on this, too.
46 grand is what I bought my Sierra 1500 for in 2015. I hate how expensive everything has gotten within a matter of a few years.
I bought my two-year-old tundra for 28 k in 2013. I definitely understand inflation, however! Vehicle pricing inflation seems to be outpacing everything.
@@michaeljenks6259 exactly, our issue with these prices isn't that they've increased. It's that they've increased in such massive disproportion to everything else, including wages, that it's almost.comical at this point.
Just stop buying these over priced vehicles and let’s see what the dealerships do. But we got these people that love living paycheck to paycheck and making these purchases they really can’t afford.
Agree completely. In 2016 I bought an F 150 Lariat 4x4 for 40K. MSRP of $51,700 but with discounts and rebate it was $40,200. I would like to get a new truck but these prices are crazy!
2015 Cummins, brand new 52k in 2015 😢
I have a '22 Pro4x and love it. It's a simple, honest truck. Doesn't have the fancy Turbo-4 or drive modes of the new GM and Ford offerings, but does exactly what I ask it to do. I actually love that it has an old school naturally aspirated V6.
I honestly LOVE how they reverted back the look of their gauges to the first gen Frontier and Xterra, it gives me a bit of nostalgic joy.
I have a 2010 frontier with 292k miles on it and still my daily driver. Had it for 7 trouble free years and would Def consider a new one.
I like the look of this truck and really like that it isn't overly techy, sometimes less is more. Please show more of this truck.
I got this last September 2023. Never regretted. Awesome truck. Capable on everything.
Tommy, I couldn’t agree more. I’ve had my ‘22 Pro-4X for a year now and put 20k mikes on it and absolutely love it. Thought about a Taco, but being taller I couldn’t get comfortable in it. I also wanted a naturally aspirated engine as turbos don’t lend to longevity.
Agreed Tacoma felt really small and I’m 6’
I think Nissan hit it outta the park with the new Frontier. I appreciate the simplicity of the engine, the interior and the overall design. My one reservation is the near-90-degree angle of the back seat. My kids won’t last long for big trips back there, the taco has a more gradual angle. But maybe that’s a compromise they would accept if / when the time comes. I’m also eager to see what the long term reliability is on these.
Frontier= Crawl ratio 60:1 fully boxed titan frame (ability to titan swap suspension/engine) , Dana 44 locking rear (pro4x) , dana front diff, spicer transfer case, powerful vq motor, rear disc brakes, bullet proof and made in USA. Tacoma= 33:1 crawl ratio, C channel frame (on going corrosion frame recalls) , rear drum brakes, now made in Mexico, reliability declining and Toyota tax.
Frontier has terrible turning radius. Turns as wide as a 3/4 tin truck
@@Lumpia_In_Texas no it doesn’t 😂
Yeah ill still take a tacoma lmao
@@Lumpia_In_Texasso it has one downfall? It has a dozen benefits over the tacoma
I have the 23 Nissan frontier SV crew cab with 6ft bed, and it turns like a boat, I love the simplicity and I hope Nissan doesn’t change much on the frontier, Great truck!
Purchased a 2023 pro4x end of July and I love it. Better gas mileage than my Tacoma, better ride, no Turbo and its loaded. Nice mix of old and new.
It's a nice truck, and I would love to have one. But even "Mid $40K range" is still too much for me...
Try an SV about 38k
Have 2022 SV 4X4 since October 2021, so it's one of the very first ones 18 months and 29k miles later and no problems. Been a awesome truck. Had a 2004 previously for 16 years and 300K miles, this one should do the same.
Hey TFL! Thanks for the great review. You are absolutely right, this Frontier is most probably the best value for the money in the mid size pick-up truck category🤩. I just order my very own Pro-X4 and can’t wait to get it! Keep up the good work guys 👍. Cheers.
Dude, you are about to go in debt almost 50,000.00 with a nasty monthly payment for a Nissan Frontier.... that's terrifying and if you stop and think about it, 50,000.00 dollars....for a Nissan. Ouch. But, it is a cool truck.
I like the looks of the truck, but I would not be compelled to buy this one at $47k still. Maybe 37. I'd be all in at $35k otd. Not that I'm buying a $60k GM either. Too much $$$ for any mid to full size trucks these days.
That 68k truck your talking about is a fully loaded ZR2 with accessories. Like the desert boss etc.
They're a lot cheaper used. No way I'd ever buy a new vehicle but one that's 3 years old is basically just broken in for you and usually $10-15k less than the new ones (talking about the frontiers here).
@@9663mu Doesn’t matter, still a shit ton of money to a lot of us regular joe’s can’t afford.
I bought a 61 k Chevy truck. Ordered it last week.
What do they think we are millionaires
Agreed about the value. That's why I still have my 2nd gen Nismo offroad 4x4. At that time it was still cheaper than the base 4x4 Toyota Tacoma
WOW! I never even considered this truck, but I love it. Nice looking, simple interior with just enough creature comforts!
I bought a 2023 Nissan Pro4x and I ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT!!!! best purchase I ever made!!!
Best mid size truck for many people, nothing wrong with the Tacomas or GM twins, but this truck is amazing. I love mine!
Yes they are both good trucks. But with gm I will not by vehicle with navigation and then have to pay for a subscription. BS.
Actually there is a problem with Toyota and the Atkinson cycle engine. And the GM twins are using that insipid Dynamic Fuel Management bullshit and cylinder deactivation.
@No Ma'am I will not pay for navigation when I purchase the truck. Then pay a monthly subscription 3 years later.
@@paulsharp8802 I agree with you 100% , this new subscription for features system many car manufacturers doing right now is simply crazy. I seen Toyota offer heated seats on subscription plan!!!
Wish they made the pro-x with an 6' bed. Same with the Colorado trail boss
Same with the Ranger
They do, in Canada only, for some reason
Love these new trucks and reviews! What a lot of people are saying about pricing getting sky high, I agree with.
But, my old tundra that is still driving fantastically is almost bare bones and was 35k brand new with four-wheel drive. We don't really need all this fancy equipment. If we stopped buying the high-end trims, we don't have to worry about these inflated prices. If we just stick to the base models as far as our purchasing decisions go, the base entry-level market would probably get more competitive.
I bought a 2023 frontier pro 4x and I love it. It gets better gas mileage than they say.
@DevilDog53 I'm in Canada. And I'm averaging 8.5 L 100k. The US liter is 3.75L per. Gal. Canada is 4.543L per gallon.
hey Paul, is not having a rear defroster a deal breaker?
I’m averaging 20 combined on my 22 pro4x
@FreddyF249 no I have had no problem with it.
@DevilDog53 us to Canadian liters to gallon is different. I know it makes no sense. Us is 3.75L per. Gallon. Canadian is 4.546L per. Gallon.
I love my 2024 pro4x , solid truck for sure . Could turn a little tighter . My truck fully loaded was $48,680 . I do recommend this truck . Pricey yes , but they all are especially fully loaded. I picked it because it wasn't a 4 banger turbo.
I wasn’t looking at this truck but came across a review, did a lot of research…then picked up a 2023 Frontier Pro 4x a month ago. Tactical green. Added 33 KO2 tires, 2.5 lift, four front cube lights, additional window tint, black exhaust tip and other items. And FYI…the 2023 pro 4x with leather does have the contrast stitching. It looks great and people that I don’t know keep asking me about it. They always love it.
What lift kit did you buy?
Any word on your lift kit?
Times changing, years ago i would consider this car flashy and too complicated as 4x4... nowdays i think its perfect. Its bad car if your decision is based on options in brochure... but its perfect if You need smaller work truck/overlander. In era when even New Defender didnt got simple rear axle locker, this simplicity is astonishing.,
Well to be fair, Defenders never had a rear axle locker in any year.
Disagree is some points. I love Nissan and actually had a hardbody back in the day, but I live in Wyoming and drive at altitude a lot. I had aTaco 12 TRD Off Road. I drove a Ranger with turbo and I was shocked at how much better the powertrain was. Night and day. The turbo doesn't turn to crap as elevation increased like NA engine. Love Nissan, but I am never ever going back to NA engines. 35K in and zero issues and I hammer my Ranger, If Nissan went turbo I would consider it.
@@drn13355 NaH give it t8me and your turbo will shit
Sad to see that its a foreign company like Nissan that is still building trucks like TRUCKS. Sure, the interuor isnt up to that of nice crossovers, but its a TRUCK, which should always be function over form. So many new trucks are decked out with all the gizmos, screens instead of actual gages...all expensive things that will break over time
I’ve had my ‘22 Pro-4X since September of 2021 and I’ve been very satisfied with it. I wanted a Tacoma since the early 2000s until I sat in one. I’m only 5’10” and about 180 lbs and the driver’s seat was just too uncomfortable for me.
The Tacoma has a seating position fine for a sports car, but not a truck lol
So true lol
@@lunamaria1048 that is what I thought when I first drove one, I have never been a huge fan of them
That’s also my complaint with the Tacoma and I’m not a big guy. I really think it’s a truck for small people with big egos. 😂
Nice looking truck wish Honda would make the Ridgeline more attractive like this.
With a real frame !!
@@indycharlie For the Ridgeline buyers, a frame would be a negative. Unibody lends to comfort. Oddly enough, it also aids payload. It's a different kind of buyer. Just not for me.
Yes , and in my ,and lots of working people and ones that go off the beaten path . The Ridgeline , along with the Maverick and the Kia vehicles like them , are not trucks . They cannot be used for what the "truck " was designed for . One year of farm or construction work or moderate off roading would destroy these frameless vehicles. That said , as sales show . There is a need for these vehicles for multi , non heavy use . @@Ichibuns
I've had my 2022 Frontier SV LWB (long wheel base) for almost a year now and LOVE it. Super quiet on the highway, tracks like a train on rails, and a solid, quality interior to boot. It's an absolute pleasure to drive. Does a great job towing my 4,500LB travel trailer. I've always owned Toyota trucks...but I hated the 2022 Tacoma (anemic V6, terrible driving position, crude and noisy) and the 2023 Tacoma has a turbo 4, which is an automatic no sale. Toyota really let me down, but Nissan built me the perfect Tacoma. Thanks Nissan :)
Great review; nice truck. Are you sporting the “MoonSwatch”, Tommy?
That’s definitely the MoonSwatch.
Ahhhh, the famous radio knob falling off in your hand. That used to be a Chev & Dodge symptom.
Looks like a moderate dab of superglue will do the job. That is an annoying little cheap feel though.
@@fonz-ys6xu Back in the 80's when it happened in a Chev or Dodge when the radio knob or window crank fell off, it was time to sell the vehicle because the transmission would go shortly after. Or everything else inside would fall off and it would nickel and dime you to death.
Another think copied from Toyota bahahaha
It’s been a hidden gem for decades. My 2017 Pro 4x, which I have had since new, has been the most worry free lowest maintenance vehicle I have ever owned. Not a squeak or rattle with 50,000 miles on it. Very capable truck, on and off road. I looked at the new ones (starting in 2020 with the 3.8 l engine and new transmission) but availability and extra costs made me realize my 2017 is still a great value.
Two things annoy me about it 1) gas mileage is terrible 2) really bad turning radius. That’s it.
Great review by the way.
My 2002 2wd Frontier 4 cylinder XE King cab was one of my favorite trucks I ever owned. Great off-road truck.
I am very tempted to get one. The only thing holding me back is that it has the worst fuel economy of the midsize segment. I would totally get one if gas were more affordable right now.
It doesn’t have worse MPG than the Jeep Gladiator but fuel economy isn’t great I agree.
Lol, I average 23.6 mpg combined city/hwy in my 22 Frontier Pro-4x with a 2.5” suspension lift and guess what it only requires 87 octane.
fuel is cheap compared to a new engine.. this engine is bulletproof.
I was looking at these and Tacomas recently for a new pickup. The frontier, at least here, was $3k more for a pro-4x over a trd off road. Only thing the Frontier had over the Tacoma was blind spot monitoring. That was only a $800 option for the Toyota.
And the resale is far better on the Tacoma
yeah and that taco has drum brakes 5 gears and what 190 horse power
@@oogleboogle123456789 Drum brakes work just fine, semi trucks have drum brakes. Why are you triggered by the simple fact that Toyota has better resale value due to proven reliability?
@A Todaso now made in mexico with rusty frames so much for reliability going forward
@@atodaso1668 why are you triggered when someone brings up drum brakes?😂 And no, they're not fine. And semi trucks use jake brakes but I'm sure you knew that but just forgot to mention it lol
I have owned this truck for about 10 months and it has yet to put a foot wrong. I immediately changed out the Hancooks (a street casing with an AT tread) for Wildpeak AT3W in 255/80 17 (33.1") and they fit! Being 11lbs heavier than the Hancooks has caused some tireshake at times, the stock Bilsteins will need to be upgraded. The infotainment system is at times maddeningly laggy and sometimes becomes inactive artwork (dealer updates have had NO effect). Do love the truck overall. Would love to see what a stock truck on 33's would do at "The Ranch". Love your work.
Nice truck. Also, the one and two year old used ones can be had a good price for those not able to fork over the cost for a new one.
Nissan truck division is like a completely different company than the crappy car division.
I've waited over 7 months for my KC P4X. I'll be taking delivery in the next couple weeks. So excited.
it's also exciting that more and more companies are making overlanding / camping stuff for the new Frontier.
Love my 2024 SV king cab. 6 foot bed and and quite a few extras for $41.000.
Now that I live in the mountains at 5000+ ft, I want FI/turbo and 400ft lbs in my midsize truck :). Patiently waiting on the new Colorado/Canyons. I did own a Pro-4X Nissan Titan from 2012-2016 (replaced with a RAM Powerwagon, now a '20 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon) and LOVED my Titan. If the frontier had more tq I would definitely entertain it. I'm craving another pickup now.
When I was buying my new Pathfinder this week they had a Frontier in the showroom and it really looks good.
I bought my Fully loaded Pro4X last month and its my favorite truck I’ve ever had! It’s Simple, has all the “luxury” Amenities that I need/want without everything that I dont need.
"has all the “luxury” Amenities that I need/want without everything that I dont need" - thats matter the most!
Honestly, it's the best mid-size truck out there right now. IMO.
I just visited a Nissan dealership out of curiosity. A Frontier S (base model) with 4x4 was...$37,500.
Very solid truck, I got my 22 Pro4X without heated seats and moon roof and the 360 camera and it was quite a bit cheaper. I can fit a baby car seat in the rear with just barely enough space for my seat to be in the position I like (I’m 5ft10) Other than that it’ll be my family vehicle for years to come. 2 years of ownership in late august and almost 25K miles without a single issue.
I'm very pleased with my 2023 Frontier Pro4X. Great truck for the value.
Handsome ride!
Looks a hell of a lot better than any of the new Toyota offerings.
JMO
They practically modeled it after the Tacoma. Original no.
Not really, Nissan reliability does not compare to Toyota. Chevy and Nissan modded their trucks after the Tacoma.
@@IzaguirreC The Tacoma and Tundra has had issues especially the first three years in production. They have same issues as most modern manufacturers. This isn't the 80s anymore. Tacoma's interior outdated, tech is outdated, engine is way outdated. The new one will hopefully be way better. Though I'm not thrilled about the look. May be a small version of the Tundra which is blah.
@@uowebfoot Toyota sticks to a platform for a while before a refresh. Look at the second gen 05-15, now the third 16-23. The loaded models have most of the needed features. Resale is also king. I sold my 2020 a few weeks ago for 39k, I paid 39.5k out the door when new. I’m waiting for the refresh as it will be reliable in comparison to ford, Chevy and Nissan.
@@allentoyokawa9068 Act like an adult quit being such a fanboy.
Gently used 2020 Titan XD Pro4x with all the options for under $45K. Now that is underrated.
I’ve looked at those so many times. They look really good and muscular to me. I don’t like Chrome, at all.
@@Papolucho702 same here. It is a big truck. Has the front marker lights. Last of the old school V8 trucks imo. I am fortunate to acquire mine for $44,944 all decked out from the factory. Won't find many on the roads. So won't look like everyone else driving around. Very low production and it is built in Mississippi. 🇺🇸
Based on my experience if you show me someone selling a "gently" used vehicle I'll show you a liar
I hope the 9 speed is better my 7speed 17 Titan pro4x lost its tranny around 80k miles.
With the 10 year factory warranty still intact too.
I got a base model 4x4 for 34k considering its the same power train the bang for the buck is hard to argue.
Get an sv trim level, it has the same specs as this one the only difference is cosmetics. You can get one 42k out the door with taxes title
Enjoying my 23 SV.
Looks is well-featured without gouging customer's wallets. GM is my go-to for this segment but this is now at the top of my list. I hope the Frontier poaches many of the Colorado's customers to bring the astronomical GM pricing back down to earth.
Great review mate. I’ve done a couple of Frontier videos, great truck!
Wish you guys would do more videos on these. I have a 22 pro4x and it’s great.
I just ordered a 2024 in a King Cab 6ft bed 4x4 SV trim in Gray Metallic should be here in 6 to 8 wks. I didn't want the Tech package but they changed it so in 2024 if you want the Conv. package you have to take the tech package with it. This was not the case with the 2023.
Love the Frontier... I was about to buy one... Instead @tflnow Tommy talked me into the 2022 GMC Canyon after he drove the AT4 with the performance package... I went with the Elevation... comes with G80... put the 1 inch level in all 3 skids from GM and went up a tire size for 9.6" of clearance and rocker protection..... works well for the offroading I do. Have 20k KM's or about 12 and a Half thousand miles on it now.
Good choice. I just ordered the 2023 GMG Canyon Elevation trim pkg. Been good reviews so far on the new ones.
@@johnwhitneykokalis9990 very nice! They are sharp looking!
Tacoma TRD Off Road is the same price and has ATRAC and Crawl Control plus 16” rim = larger tire sidewall.
Yeah but the lions share of available offroad tires are in the 17'' range. It's pretty standard now.
The Frontier has ABLS which is ATRAC just with out a button, Crawl control is a gimmick which you don't actually use and buying 16 in tires your options are very limited.
@@scott8238 yep, added a few TCS nannies and a wheel size that not many real offroad tires fit
Personally, I believe it is one of the top good-looking trucks
So many car companies do an led 3rd break light and halogen everywhere else. The frontier is the exact opposite. Every light on the exterior of the pro4x is led except the third break light.
Not gonna lie it's funny to me after you kinda bashed it a bit in the comparison of trucks awhile back but that infotainment was just hilarious. I'd look into a 2023 in a few years myself
My only complaint with my 2023 model is the connectivity with hands free, iOS lives to randomly just disconnect while the phone remains in connection for Bluetooth.. you have to reconnect it through settings.
Very frustrating especially while needing GPS.
Great video Tommy. Thank you.
I like it. When I was waiting for my Tacoma last year (took 7 months!) I strongly considered one of these.
You made the right choice with the Taco
@@jakmac13 right decision if your ok with old tech, C channel frame, lack of power and crappy fuel mileage.
@@PoppaSnipe yeah, I’m not trying to impress anyone in my Taco, but it’s a great reliable pickup when maintained and there’s a track record to prove it. I’m always pleasantly surprised by both its comfort on road and abilities off road.
Sometimes something less flashy and less computerized is a good thing. There's a certain appeal for something a little old fashioned and less gee-whizzy. I feel the Frontier gives you what you need.
I don't know, I'm spoiled from my $26,000 GTI. Now I see cheap grey interior hard plastics and get pretty turned off from a new car. Why can't $40,000 Nissan's and the big three be as nice on the inside as a $26,000 GTI? There is nothing wrong with the design just the materials.
@@jeffk464 if you could use your GTI like a truck would those materials hold up as well?
Plenty of trucks have very nice interior materials, but for work trucks or more off-road oriented trucks would those materials hold up if a person used those trucks as intended?
Went to an auto show and looked at the NIssan Frontier. Saw the payload capacity- under 1000 pounds and that was a no buy. The price goes up and the truck part (payload) goes down.
I really like the new Frontier. If I had to replace my current truck tomorrow I'd be looking at a Tacoma or Frontier.
Tacoma is outdated. Maybe the next model that's coming.
Get the Tacoma. Even though it’s outdated it is tried and true. TRD Off Road is the same price and still has 16” rims so you get more sidewall.
Toyota has finally worked all the issues out of the current Tacoma. It should be a very reliable truck now.
It's literally the only truck on the market that Consumer Reports rates as reliable.
Best two looking trucks in the segment right now, although the new GM twins don't look bad either.
@@uowebfoot Irrelevant, it's a good looking design and it's aged well. Couldn't care less about the tech in it so long as I can Bluetooth a phone for hands free calling and music.
If they offered the pro 4X with the crew cab long bed, they sell a ton of them.
ZR2 starts at $46k with a front locker, lift, rock sliders, cut away bumpers, off road tires, and trick suspension. The Frontier is a good truck, but the ZR2 is a great deal
and a diesel... well kinda
I drove a new crew cab pro-4x as a rental in and around Anchorage AK for a week last fall. Everything about it during my experience was good. Ride was okay, seats were great for up to 3 hours straight, road noise not bad at all. Only reason I'd probably not buy one is the lack of space in the back seat, then again the Ranger isn't any better. I also like the width of the cab, unlike the GM twins. I haven't seen a new generation GM, but from anything I've seen, like on TFL, there is no evidence the new cab is any wider inside.
I think its expensive for what you get... a lot of old tech in this new truck, feels like an old interior with a new screen on the dash, doesn't lead the class in anything so it will be a middle grade truck for a top tier price.
Could not agree more!! This truck feels and drives like it's 20 years old slready
could you do a review on the frontier SV 4x4 4door midnight long bed. i think that is might be a great everyday driver with the best of midsized and fullsized combined.
Would love a showdown series with all of these new mid size trucks.
I really like almost everything about the new gen Frontier (interior already looks a bit dated though). I just wish they undercut the competition a little bit more. Same with the Titan. Nissan only has itself to blame with that one. If they built The Warrior concept they would have sold like hotcakes
Try doing that to knobs in a 10 to 15 year old Infiniti Tommy, would be hilarious to see someone try. Ask Nathan, he used to cover them pretty well on this channel. Infiniti's golden era.
Eager to wait for the days when inventory increases and mass rebates return.
Sorry old school here, no chrome no sale, plus you can’t order the truck you want. The factory sends the trucks to dealers and you buy what they want you to buy. You may have to shop many dealers in several states to find what you want. Example; I wanted a crew cab SV 2WD with a 6’ bed. I was in central FL, dealer searched and found one in GA but not the color I wanted, plus the dealer added $11,650 market upgrade charge, I walked away.
Not much was really said about the suspension setup, is it really worthy the pro name? I'd expect more myself for the top of the line
I wanted a simple and reliable truck for my property in Big Bend. I've taken it on a bunch of trails out there and it's tackled everything with ease. I prefer the fact it doesn't have a bunch of drive modes; 4x low, rear locker, gas, and brake.
Nissan needs to bring back the Frontier standard transmission option and offer a longer bed.
One of the manufactures should
Please tell that Radio Knob only got loose after you hit a really bad dip or pot hole off roading or maybe you pulled to hard? Cuz if it was like that brand new then it’s a quality issue and I don’t feel confident waiting for my 23 PRO 4X in April
If/when my first gen tacoma 4x4 ever fails me, I'll buy one of these.
I like the frontier, but really wish new trucks actually came with a two seater, simple interior, and an 8 foot bed. These small trucks are nothing more than just cars with small beds on the back of them.
Traded my Toyota for a new Pro4-X and love it. Faster, smoother, better shifts, all around more comfortable and better performance.
What Toyota and what year
@@Journey_of_Abundance 2020 4x4 4Runner SE5 Premium w/ factory TRD Wheels
I would think it would outlast a turbo chevy
Sales numbers suggest it has not gone unnoticed.
Great mid size. Looks much better than Titan. Nissan should mirror the frontier in the Titan.
Unreal the prices..... What used to be a Nissan hard body mini truck.....
I really only want 4x4 limited slip, keyless entry, cruise control, AC and connect to my phone... That's it. That doesn't cost 35k or weigh 4k lbs .....
I’m sure it’s not a bad truck, but in the segment where all the trucks are really good this one just doesn’t stand out and its not a value proposition either soo yea thats why Nissan dealers a loaded with inventory. Also resale is dismal on these as well, 37k new perhaps. Interior looks dated as well with the exception of the infotainment screen.
Definitely gonna be my next vehicle, looks so good now.
A review with no mention of transmission? Nissan's new 9sp debuted in 2020 Titan - I believe developed with Mercedes - recalled for programming and parking pawl repair
The programming was voluntary the parking pawl didn’t affect all Frontier Pro-4x. My 2022 was not effected by the parking pawl recall and I had the programming done but wasn’t required.
Nissan really hit the mark with this new generation. The new frontier Nismo V8 is going to be awesome.
V8?
A 23 colorado trail boss with most of the options is 40k sticker. The nissan is priced in line with the rest of the segment. And you have to pay $500 to add a hitch. I def wouldn't compare pro4x to a ZR2.
I have one, the tech is dated, the cruise control goes up too 5K RPM to accel 4 mph.
It looks good and is powerful but the trans and tech lets the truck down.
Brother has one awesome truck. $339 a month 18 month lease for $3k down 10k miles a year
That's $9000 to go 15k miles - yikes. then after 18 months are up, what's next?
I was interested in it, but decided it was a hard pass when I found out it had direct injection only, and no port injection too. I'm not a fan of having to have my intake valves cleaned every 30k miles or so.
Nissan stopped selling the Titan in Canada in 2022 I'm bit leery about when Frontier is next?
Weee! I love this truck! Yes! I’m glad you brought this truck up.👍