yes. im really interested in this truck because i honestly prefer cars. it seems to act more like a full size sedan on the road. but has the bed, and can tow a small trailer without issue.
True! I have family and friends that need big trucks (We live in Texas) I’m like for what? What are you hauling lol? You don’t even have a trailer hitch. My Tacoma can do 90% of what your big truck is doing. I was able to haul anything I need for my house anything I need for my lawn no problemo.
Agree, actually they say 7000 is for the gladiator but when you see someone towing 7000 with a mid size truck (they really struggle) 7000 X 0.80 = 5600 is the real towing capacity for any vehicle you have to multiply by 0.80 to get the real capacity.
I just bought one of these yesterday. I drove a Toyota Tacoma, then drove this. It drives better, is quieter, steers better and the transmission is way smoother. It’s plain Jane… but It’s awesome.
That's what I'm saying. Looks, comfort, that goes a long way. Fuel mileage and telescopic steering would be nice, but they don't do anything for your image. That color!
@@alh06 If you want to argue a towing point.... you shouldn't be looking into midsized trucks. Midsize are for daily and light work. Which 95% of people don't even do. You want a real towing truck get you a full size diesel.
“90-95% never go off road or tow anything”u guys pulling numbers from your asses ? All the guys I know carry a camper, pull trailers and go off road with their trucks. You guys must live near the stupid malls.
You guys Rock together. Loved this Nissan review and hope they are finally waking up again. The automotive world is much better off with a healthy Nissan. Please keep these coming.
The Frontier engine (VQ38DE) shares some similarities with the Nissan Skyline GT-R (VR38DETT), where "TT" indicates twin turbo. However, the Frontier is built for off-roading and daily driving, while the Skyline GT-R is tuned for high-speed performance. Both engines belong to the VR 3.8 family.
Considering Nissan was still selling frontiers that we a 17 year old design, I think they did enough to maintain their sales. Maybe they wont beat everyone else but I dont think that's the point.
@@paultruesdale7680 i agree but I dont think they are going to be blown away in sales since everyone is making a mid-size trucks now. If they had done this 5 years ago they would be setting pretty by now. Nissan has always made good trucks so I hope this one doesn't disappoint.
I still really like the old one despite the old interior. Given a killer price on an old used one, vs this new one would have me thinking. Course, I'll be looking at them in 3 or 4 years, so definitely this new one would make more sense.
I like it's non turbo simplistic running gear. I don't drive far enough to care about fuel mileage. Everything Andre said at the end that could be improved would drive the price up up and up. This truck is less expensive and not best in class in every department and that's exactly what Nissan was going for. I agree with Nissan on this.
I wish man, it starts at 40k in Canada, thats 2k more than the Tacoma and it doesn't have basic stuff like a telescoping wheel adjustment. I'll have to stick with my '12 frontier for now, that's way beyond my price range
@@Ntmoffithe previous gen pro4x started at $37,890… this gen pro4x starts at $39,300… I’d much rather pay the little more for this much nicer truck. Everything’s about perspective, you can’t find a mid spec full size for anything under 50-55k
I ( still ) own a 1996 Pathfinder XE that I bought BRAND NEW in April, 1996... 187,000 miles. Does not burn oil, still easily passes SMOG.... Looks pretty much showroom new...
I bought the Pro-4X the day it came off the truck as an upgrade from the 2019 SV. There is no comparison. I will be driving this truck for the next 15 years.
My 2010 LE 4x4 crew cab has the Rockford Fosgate sound system with the subwoofer under the rear seat like that Fender set up. My dog didn't like it, but my daughters always got a kick out of feeling the seat thump when I cranked the tunes. My younger daughter was 9 when I bought that truck. She fell in love with it and told me then that when she was old enough to drive, I would have to buy another car for me, so she could drive the Frontier. She is using it as her daily now, and it is getting close to 150K miles on the odometer. Something tells me the new Frontier is going to have similar reliability and avid fans.
I just bought one. I traded in my 2021 Tacoma SR5 because I hated that truck due to the gear hunting and power output. The 3.5 V6 was under powered and had a ridiculous lag every time I tried to gain some momentum. This Nissan is a much better truck price for price and feature for feature.
Locker button is a bit low, but how often will the average owner need to engage it? Not very often if at all. For a rarely used function , putting the locker button out of the way isnt such a bad thing. Tow button is in a proper location considering this feature could be used much more often.
I also am super very with it. It rides super smooth and quiet, yet very capable. I have the Pro X in tactical green w a tow hitch and it is perfect for me and our family. Congrats & enjoy!!
I totally get if someone wants more modern or luxury features, but this has highly functional buttons and hard plastics that are easy to clean, solid as hell. The Pro4X has just enough features for me. Having full LED headlamps and tail lamps is nice too. No need to consider aftermarket options
I saw one of these new Frontiers, a dark gray one, the other day. It was parked in a parking lot and I saw it as I drove by. As I was driving by, I thought it was a freshened ‘22 Tacoma. Looked JUST like a Tacoma!
I just bought a 2004 Nissan Xterra I found on Craigslist for $4,500. 4wd, just over 120k miles. Gave it a tune-up, changed the fluids, washed it, everything works,runs great! No need to be wasting $50k for a brand new truck.
Hey, that's me. There is no way I could pay that kind of money for a Frontier. I could not afford it and it is not worth it. I think you have the better idea.
Yep I am biased. After working on Toyotas at the dealer level since 1990, and a Tacoma owner, I spent 2005-2010 at a Honda Nissan dealership. Went back to a Toyota dealership until 2017. That said, the latest Frontier looks great. But my experience as a flat rate Technician working on Nissan trucks for 5 years, I learned at that time, that I would push my Tacoma, with only 3 wheels, axle deep in mud before I would own a Nissan truck. This was based on what went wrong, and how Nissan corporate would pay for warranty work, and how well that they stood behind the product at THAT time. With what I have to deal with now, being a shop manager, working on these trucks today, honestly my opinion has not changed. We presently have 2 Titan diesels waiting for turbos, and Frontiers waiting on rear differentials. For now, I will keep my Toyota's
I have owned two nissan frontiers first a 06' crew cab Nismo 4x4 that i sold with 240K and now a 2013 pro4x with 100k. Although these trucks are reliable and easy to work on. i have to agree with you. My wifes toyota highlander has required absolutely zero weekend time/time off to repair. I just do regular maintenance and put gas in it and it just goes, never breaks down or throws me for a saturday at autozone. My next truck will be a tacoma.
That engine sounds faster than it is! Actually, I think they did a good update. Very competitive package for someone who wants a traditional pickup truck. I would agree with Nathan, it should have a tow hitch as standard. And an excellent engine without resorting to a turbocharger. I would consider it, though I am a Ford guy.
@@Supernova778 The 2005 to 2020 generation was designed by Nissan before Renault started having more control over the brand. Prior to this, Nissan built very reliable vehicles. 2005 to 2020 Frontier is a 15 year old Japanese engineered vehicle that had very little changes over the many years, so it will be reliable. That's why I'm not surprised the ones you owned were reliable. The 2022 Frontier was engineered during the Renault controlling era, so it won't be as well engineered as the previous generation you owned.
@@2011buddylee Mechanics will be laughing on their way to bank to deposit all the money you spent on repairing your out of warranty Frontier. Enjoy your time hanging out at repair shops.
So...since the fenders have that square bump out, are we expecting a new Xterra? Those fenders sure look like we could see a new X built off this platform. Thoughts?
Brilliant Job of taking Next to nothing to really work with" pre model , no tow etc etc".. an making it focused an interesting, a case of "Less is More".. Well done guys..
From everything I’ve seen about this truck I say yes it was totally worth the wait for this truck I can’t wait to see how the hydraulic body mounts affect the chassis flex of this truck off road
The big pro for me is the seats: far more comfortable than all others in the class, which is a big deal on long trips. The truck should be reliable, if not abused. I can live with the faults. Trucks in this category are way too small to tow 6k# in the real world: 3K# is my comfort level for this class. This leaves payload room for a cap and light load. 4x4 is great for the tasks I shall have: the truck is not in the rock crawler class, and I would not try it. I think Nissan has a winner.
Need to put something under the bumper to simulate a hitch off road, even if it’s just a piece of paper that hangs down the same amount as the hitch would. Otherwise the departure angle isn’t accurate.
@@UTVPOWERSPORTS One Toyota flaw is laziness 😂. They only update trucks when they feel sales are in danger. Now, that the ranger, updated frontier, much more competitive Colorado look for the next Tacoma to have higher payload, possibly hybrid truck and more.
Non telescoping steering column is a head-scratcher?? Perhaps, Nissan is taking a page out of Ford's book. Often times, Ford will introduce an all new vehicle...with carry over parts (engine, transmission,etc) from the previous generation. Over the next couple of years, it will update those carry over items and jack up the price doing it.
@@allentoyokawa9068 Not an issue if I was 5'5" but I'm tall and have to sit with the seat all the way back, the wheel needs to move with me, like it's been able to in most cars since 2000
I had the 2011 Frontier. Not a bad truck. Towed my 16' boat and 21' Tri-hull just fine for a 4.0 V6. Pick up was good. Never let me down during hunting seasons from snow or mud. Hate that it's rigid on turns all dated looks and instruments. So....I guess I would give it a thumbs up all in all, but compared to my 2019 Tacoma, I'd say...My Taco wins by a mile in many aspects, but the Frontier beats it in terms of get up and go.
Truck looks great. I’d love to have one as a daily but I need a full sized pick up to do full sized truck stuff with. Plus with everything thats going on in the vehicle market place, I guess I’ll stick with my 2014 Silverado. Its not the latest, fanciest truck but it is paid for .....
does anyone understand how much more you cant get with 44k when you move up to a half ton without sacrificing much of anything other than the FEW benefits of its smaller size? even gas mileage isnt far off.
Nissan Frontier could ALWAYS beat the TACOMA in cab comfort, for me at least. I tend to agree with Nathan in a lot of points his choice of color is NOT one of them :) ( I like red. ) What a shame that Nissan folks chose to omit the tow hitch on this one. I was hoping to see what it can do.
It's the little things that would really bother me over time. Such as the placement of the rear locker switch. Buttons and selectors should be easy to see and reach. The fuel economy isn't good at all for a mid size truck especially when a half ton full size truck can get as good if not better mileage if configured accordingly. But when the price difference is $10,000 less for this truck vs a full size truck, then it becomes a value thing.
Great review. I have 1 more payment on my 2016 Frontier SV Crewcab and would love having no truck payment for years to come, but this new Frontier is very tempting. The mini subwoofer under the bench is awesome, I don't mind giving up that storage space. I love the look, they improved it cosmetically but didn't over do it. I loved the old Frontier because it looked traditional and with this new Frontier its traditional but with flair. My biggest complaint on the old Frontiers was the screen size, so glad they finally improved that feature. Its got the looks, got the power, and the practical features.
I owned an 06 Frontier crew cab SE for 15 years. Loved the truck, just bought a 2020 F150 XLT. I miss much of the convenience of a small truck but my Ford with 375 hp gets better gas mileage than my old Nissan. I waited forever for the new Frontier and turns out they took too long.
This is why TFL is the best! They are honest and don't allow the manufacturer to bully them into making their vehicles look like Ass Kickers when they are clearly not. Great video again keep them up! Can't wait for the ford Maverick Review
I love the truck, but $60,000 for a pro 4x in Canada doesn't work for anyone. They said the starting price would be $29,000. Instead it's $39,000 for a base model. That's not acceptable.
Due to various shortages, (steel and manpower), manufacturers across the board have severe backorder problems. However, the old body style hitch (999T5-BY500) will bolt up.
My titan Pro4x has the same hard plastic on the doors, but the armrests are really nice and soft. I don't mind the hard plastic because I know i can wash it down easily....like he said.
I got the SV in gun metallic just love it. The six foot bed is mandatory the 5ft is useless in any truck. I sacrificed a few options over the Pro 4 locking differential, phone charger pad, Blistein shocks. I use my atv mostly during hunting and occasionally tow a 3700 lb Feather Lite 19 ft Jayco. Great all round truck and mileage too 10.2L/100Km if I keep it under 110 kms/hr
16:52 Agree with the driver, I hate having to contort myself just to get in or out of a truck. So many vehicles focus on aerodynamic drag and slant the windshield far to back. This caused me to bump my head getting in or out. I like a wide birth driver side.
I actually LIKE this Frontier! Of course, I would be adding a few things like heavy duty bumpers + bushbars + winch front and back AND a higher lift and some pretty big NITTO Grappler tires to it and an in-bed rollbar with LED lightbar and an extra in-bed gas tank to it to make it better fit my 4x4 waaaaaay offroad boondocking/overlander life-style. I definitely like the new front hood and grill design. If the finance options are good with better interest rates and lower monthly payments, I could easily see myself getting one of these just to be different than everyone else! The Toyota Tacoma has been upping their prices to such a level, that I am getting onion-eyes from their dealer lot sticker prices. I've been SERIOUSLY looking at a Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition OR this 2022 Frontier (with some mods!) as a 2nd backwoods lifestyle truck until my reservation for a Ford F150 Lightning used as a daily driver goes through next year! In my books, for now it is a TIE between the Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition versus 2022 Nissan Frontier as Best-4x4-Offroad-Bang-For-The-Bucks trucks of ANY TYPE be they medium-size, full-size or heavy duty! Can the Ford Ranger haul more in true comfort and can the Toyota Tacoma crawl rocks better? YES they can! .....BUT..... these two trucks give you TRUE VALUE !!! -- as in you spend less money to get nearly the same abilities! That saved money buys you a lot of gas and lot of extra food and gear to go camping/fishing more often which is the KEY metric --- How much extra free time and extra memories do you get for your saved money? v
there goes ALL your payload "Of course, I would be adding a few things like heavy duty bumpers + bushbars + winch front and back AND a higher lift and some pretty big NITTO Grappler tires to it and an in-bed rollbar with LED lightbar and an extra in-bed gas tank"
@@dirtrider88 Automakers STRESS TEST their truck frames at 3x up 5x the stated bed and payload weights. Compressive, Tensile, Torsion, Flexion and Shear tests on all metal parts is part and parcel of a truck frame and truck bed development program. With proper upgraded springs, shocks, wheels, tires and bed-mount bolts and mounting pucks plus some extra T and L brackets welded to the frame, I can put 1200 lbs into the bed and 1000 lbs (250 lbs per person) into the cab with NO PROBLEM! It's less than $5000 worth of tubing and hardware since I can weld the bumpers, bushbars, winch mounts, roll-bars myself in less than two days using 6061 Series or 8000 series Aluminum plate and 3 inch diameter tubing! I only need to order the winches and light bars and wheels/tires --- Everything else I build myself. If I can design and model it in my CAD/CAM/FEA program, I can build it and weld it together! Again, I like the 2022 Nissan Frontier as it has potential to save you some big bucks per month if you get 72 and 84 month financing terms. I still like the Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition BETTER which is basically a Chevy-built Ranger Raptor BUT for those of you who have limited credit and/or want NEW and don't mind 72 month financing, you are getting a BARGIAN of a well-thought-out Daily Driver + 4x4 Offroad + Boondocking + Overlander truck when you get the 4xPro versions! All the Toyota FanBois can keep the TRD Pro with its Eye-watering prices! The Frontier ticks 97% of the boxes of the TRD-pro at a HECK OF A LOT CHEAPER PRICE! That leaves you more money for gas and gear for your 3 day weekends and 2-or-3 week boondocking trips to the backwoods fishing holes and campsites! What's not to like about that? v
@@dirtrider88 It's also called getting AN ACTUAL LICENCED MECHANICAL and STRUCTURAL ENGINEER (and a metallurgist too!) to oversee my design and sign off on it! The science is there! I can PROVE the safety of my modifications, so it not an issue on my part. Unlike others, I actually TEST and SIMULATE my mods on an FEA (Finite Element Analysis) system to see if they are SAFE to use and apply on a real world vehicle! I work with aerospace systems that are faaaaaaaar more safety critical than a ground vehicle mod, so I think I will adhere to what the engineers say can and cannot be done! AND, once the insurance company signs off on my mods (ICBC is pretty picky here in Canada!) I am legally covered! v
I’m not sure how you are figuring value, but the tested truck is basically Nissan’s version of a Tacoma TRD Off-Road, similarly equipped and similarly priced. They even look the same. But they’re not the same. The Nissan won’t have the Toyota’s reliability, durability, aftermarket support, or resale value. Again, not sure how you see the Nissan as the value pick in this class.
I love my ranger, I had a 4 cylinder Tacoma, but when I tried the ford ranger, forget it I traded my Tacoma. I love my Ranger, I never thought I would love a truck like this one.
@@doylee469 yeah, I agree, but when you put bigger tires, lift kit. Man there's a big difference. But I do agree, they look odd without Modifications 😉
A new Tacoma TRD off road is 10k less. Im pretty sure I know what one i would choose. lol, I really want to like the frontier , but I cant. Especially at 50k....
Agreed. I had a 19 Colorado and traded for 21 Ranger. Had little cosmetic issues from Chevy and the Ranger has been in for air bag sensor issues and just broke down 250 miles away from home with silly “remote start fuse” problems! Twice in for repairs less than 4K miles. Ford customer service the worse I ever experienced. The Nissan just too expensive like sone have said Ram needs to step up.
I have a 23 Pro4X luxury it now comes with the lava red inserts and stitching inside and all PRO4X’s come with tow hitches. I’m guessing that one didn’t have it because it was pre-production. I absolutely love my truck, so smooth and quiet. I’m averaging 12.5 L per hundred which is 19 miles per gallon. My brother has a 2022 Tacoma off-road and my truck is way smoother on the blacktop.
I think that it looks better than the Tacoma on the outside (especially that front end). This coming from a diehard Toyota guy. But, I still like the Tacoma's interior better. It looks like Nissan skimped on the materials that they used inside; hard/cheaper plastics on the interior, and the dull grey dash. I still need to see one in person, though. Maybe my opinion will change. Also, this doesn't seem to have Crawl Control like the Toyota TRD PRO. What gives, Nissan? Having said that, Nissan finally updated the Frontier, which is cool to see, and waaaay overdue at this point.
Replaced my 2017 Colorado with 2023 Frontier. I really like the Frontier. Only thing I miss from the Chevy is the rear bumper made it easy to get in and out of the bed of truck. Frontier feels more solid and drives better than the Chevy did.
Thet look great and hopefully, like the last generation, this is the better and reliable options in their entire line-up. THANK YOU NISSAN FOR THE TRADITIONAL AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION.
You want it with a tow mode and no trailer hitch??? Just giving you a hard time in the name of fun. Have a good day/night/whatever, where ever you are.
The door sills being hard. He said people will say it will be easier to clean. But, I drive my vehicle everyday, I clean it occasionally. I'll take small comforts used everyday over small conveniences used rarely every time.
Its either Fronter or Ranger at this point. Toyotas too expensive and underpowered, Chevy & GMC are too unreliable. Then again Nissan has had a history of being unreliable too and the new Ford EcoBoost has a lawsuit that I've heard about hanging over it.
@@Pizza626 In the midsize I don't find the Ranger as pleasing to the eye for some reason. Now in the halfton class the F150 inverter sounds very interesting to me. I probably don't need it,but it sure sounds nice.Of course if I had that though I'd start dreaming of a travel trailer.
@@tritchie6272 I'm with you on the ranger. Looks like an ol generic truck. Something you would see in a movie or videogame if they couldn't get cleared to use an actual brand truck.
I own a '19 Frontier and part of the reason I bought it is that I have a decade of junkyard trucks to get parts off of, it fits were I want to go, and it sit's the lowest to the ground in class and you can still touch the bottom of the bed from the side rail.
I wish ford would have just 4 camed the 4.0 and called it good. Who needs 4 doors in a little truck that is ment to work. People that use trucks for every day grocery getters ruined the truck market as a work utility vehicle and way killed being a reasonable price. My 2005 fx4 was well under 30k brand new and it was with in 200lbs load capacity of the f150. It has a 6 foot bed. I put an electric brake controller on it so I could tow a concrete pump in a pinch. Really I think all manufacturers are. Missing a huge segment now of the job site commuter where not only dose the vehicle needs to work hard it needs to be economic and affordable. It I was using that truck for work the back seat is coming out completely and getting filled with tools. Because that's what we do. Just go to any job site with any trade and take a good hard look at how they really use there trucks.
Ford does a better job offering options than anyone else. Buying an XL with FX4 and tow package is too easy, Nissan and Toyota need to wake up (SR5 with locker is a much anticipated start). But still, in the Ranger, no 4-door with 6' bed option... argh!!!
The only reason I am interested in the Frontier is it doesn't have a turbo. Who wants an earlier failure component that increases pressure in the engine and forces faster oil dilution? These manufacturers are giving us less expensive engines with crappy turbo's bolted on to save money. The fuel mileage is still terrible, the powerband disappears compared to the NA counterpart, and the long term reliability is a known fail.
As a previous owner of a 2016 pro4x Frontier, I like the new one. Hopefully the engine/trans combo proves just as reliable as the 4.0 was. The one thing I'll say about this particular model, the green looks great but the red in the badges doesn't really match well with it. The red would look good on some other colors though. Whoa just got to the end... they didn't make the turning radius better? the previous gen turned worse than a cruise ship.
The Turn radius could end up a deal breaker for me. My 2009 frontier 3 times dented it due to crappy rear visibility and terrible turn radius while parking. I bet an F150 could out turn it. The quiet road noise and all the other new stuff looks great. They need a trim between SV and the Pro4x for adults with $ who want leather and good stereo. the decals are so juvenile. Didn’t buy the 4x in 2009 due to the roof racks with lettering,also juvenile. Did not want to be a billboard. Cross shopping this against Ridgeline and Hyundai Santa Cruz which has sigh…ventilated seats.
@@gregmyrland2515 "They need a trim between SV and the Pro4x for adults with $ who want leather and good stereo." They have that, and it was reviewed on the other TFL channel.
Midsize trucks don't have to be world beaters. They just need to be useful and reliable, done.
yes. im really interested in this truck because i honestly prefer cars. it seems to act more like a full size sedan on the road. but has the bed, and can tow a small trailer without issue.
Agreed. I think it will be very popular.
And that's why they are sad, uncomfortable, awkward, and essentially useless for most people.
@@wildman1137 were you looking in the mirror when you typed that? Lol jk
True! I have family and friends that need big trucks (We live in Texas) I’m like for what? What are you hauling lol? You don’t even have a trailer hitch. My Tacoma can do 90% of what your big truck is doing. I was able to haul anything I need for my house anything I need for my lawn no problemo.
Nathan going over it pointing out everything wrong is perfect showing all the little things most people gloss over big thumbs up
IMO, if you’re towing more than 6000 lbs on a regular basis, you should move up to a half ton, anyway.
i would say 5000
@@dirtrider88 agreed, 4500 is the most I would tow on a midsize.
More like 4000
Agree, actually they say 7000 is for the gladiator but when you see someone towing 7000 with a mid size truck (they really struggle) 7000 X 0.80 = 5600 is the real towing capacity for any vehicle you have to multiply by 0.80 to get the real capacity.
@@carlosvale8198 ummmm... why do you have to multiply to get the "real" number?
I just bought one of these yesterday. I drove a Toyota Tacoma, then drove this. It drives better, is quieter, steers better and the transmission is way smoother. It’s plain Jane… but It’s awesome.
I love how he's scrutinizing the truck. He pointed out all the things wrong with it that most reviews don't.
Hence why I get my true opinions from tfl studios. All of the big boy media companies gloss or never mention anything really negative.
If only they scrutinize the Taco in the same way.
Just speaking the truth. Facts hurt your feelings?
@@HarryKuloh Perhaps read my comment again Mr. Shapiro.
@@allentoyokawa9068 have you ever owned a 3rd gen? i did, for 3 years. it was the worst midsized truck i ever drove or owned.
90% of truck owners never even tow anything so yeah.. it's definitely a win.
That's what I'm saying. Looks, comfort, that goes a long way. Fuel mileage and telescopic steering would be nice, but they don't do anything for your image. That color!
More closer to 95% truck owners never tow or do any off road
@@bigdavedayday1581 That’s not accurate even if you like your own comment. Everyone I know with a truck tows
@@alh06 If you want to argue a towing point.... you shouldn't be looking into midsized trucks. Midsize are for daily and light work. Which 95% of people don't even do. You want a real towing truck get you a full size diesel.
“90-95% never go off road or tow anything”u guys pulling numbers from your asses ? All the guys I know carry a camper, pull trailers and go off road with their trucks. You guys must live near the stupid malls.
You guys Rock together. Loved this Nissan review and hope they are finally waking up again. The automotive world is much better off with a healthy Nissan. Please keep these coming.
Nissan removed the tow hitch when they sent it to TFL. Apparently they watch the channel!
Don't forget that the new tundra with a 6.5 ft bed had a payload of barely over 1200 lbs. And honestly, no midsized truck should be towing over 7k
I think that was for the maxed out 1794 with the base engine
@life phobic no max payload is at 1,900
@@Jaimeleon20 exactly, it is a loaded crew cab with 6.5 bed and 1200 lb payload
@@egroach77 Please post a link where you found that. Even the TRD Pro has payload of 1600…
So the new Santa Fe has better payload than all these trucks. Lol
The Frontier engine (VQ38DE) shares some similarities with the Nissan Skyline GT-R (VR38DETT), where "TT" indicates twin turbo. However, the Frontier is built for off-roading and daily driving, while the Skyline GT-R is tuned for high-speed performance. Both engines belong to the VR 3.8 family.
These two dudes make for the best videos. Finally I can't wait for the offroad review.
Considering Nissan was still selling frontiers that we a 17 year old design, I think they did enough to maintain their sales. Maybe they wont beat everyone else but I dont think that's the point.
If they weren't priced like a Tacoma that would make more sense, but now...
@@paultruesdale7680 i agree but I dont think they are going to be blown away in sales since everyone is making a mid-size trucks now. If they had done this 5 years ago they would be setting pretty by now. Nissan has always made good trucks so I hope this one doesn't disappoint.
I still really like the old one despite the old interior. Given a killer price on an old used one, vs this new one would have me thinking. Course, I'll be looking at them in 3 or 4 years, so definitely this new one would make more sense.
That 4l V6 they put in it for 20 years was essentially bullet proof which is why people bought them and the new 3.8l V6 is even better.
I like it's non turbo simplistic running gear. I don't drive far enough to care about fuel mileage.
Everything Andre said at the end that could be improved would drive the price up up and up. This truck is less expensive and not best in class in every department and that's exactly what Nissan was going for. I agree with Nissan on this.
I wish man, it starts at 40k in Canada, thats 2k more than the Tacoma and it doesn't have basic stuff like a telescoping wheel adjustment. I'll have to stick with my '12 frontier for now, that's way beyond my price range
The limited range and comparably bad fuel economy are the main reasons I'll pass on it. Reasonably priced Pro-4X is cool though.
couldn't agree more. Nissan's wheelhouse isn't producing class leaders, they are much more about value, horsepower, and lower prices than Toyota haha
Picked up my Pro 4x yesterday. It’s really a sweet truck!!!!
Bought a SV 4X4 instead. Didn't need fancy shocks, skid plate and vanity graphics. Does the same job. Saved thousands.
@@fredweller1086yeah I wanted a pro4x but opted for a SV 4x4 with technology and convenience package and it’s sweet.
44k for a mid size truck. We’ve gone mad thinking that’s value.
Yea these prices are insane. This truck fully loaded should be 34-36 thousand.
Gladiator is like 50 60k easy
Wait for Tacoma to hit the market
People were paying $40k for Tacoma TRD Off roads back in 2016. You can get one of these now for little over 40k.
@@Ntmoffithe previous gen pro4x started at $37,890… this gen pro4x starts at $39,300… I’d much rather pay the little more for this much nicer truck. Everything’s about perspective, you can’t find a mid spec full size for anything under 50-55k
100% worth the hype. Buying one here soon!
I ( still ) own a 1996 Pathfinder XE that I bought BRAND NEW in April, 1996...
187,000 miles. Does not burn oil, still easily passes SMOG....
Looks pretty much showroom new...
1996 was before Renault took over, they were still good at that time. now Nissan make scrap vehicles and is the worst Japanese auto maker.
Yes Nissan is garbage now
I bought the Pro-4X the day it came off the truck as an upgrade from the 2019 SV. There is no comparison. I will be driving this truck for the next 15 years.
Better than the Ford Ranger?
@@Icanreadgood1 Absolutely. It's more powerful, and has many more features when you compare the top trim.
@@whiskeyearned1543 That's good to know, I'm in the market for a midsized pickup.
Hoes the turning radius compared to your previous 2019?
@@bmechanic5198 Seems the same, but I've never purchased a vehicle based on turning radius.
My 2010 LE 4x4 crew cab has the Rockford Fosgate sound system with the subwoofer under the rear seat like that Fender set up. My dog didn't like it, but my daughters always got a kick out of feeling the seat thump when I cranked the tunes. My younger daughter was 9 when I bought that truck. She fell in love with it and told me then that when she was old enough to drive, I would have to buy another car for me, so she could drive the Frontier. She is using it as her daily now, and it is getting close to 150K miles on the odometer. Something tells me the new Frontier is going to have similar reliability and avid fans.
I just bought one. I traded in my 2021 Tacoma SR5 because I hated that truck due to the gear hunting and power output. The 3.5 V6 was under powered and had a ridiculous lag every time I tried to gain some momentum. This Nissan is a much better truck price for price and feature for feature.
Locker button is a bit low, but how often will the average owner need to engage it?
Not very often if at all. For a rarely used function , putting the locker button out of the way isnt such a bad thing.
Tow button is in a proper location considering this feature could be used much more often.
I just bought this truck with the orange trim interior and I love this truck. Extremely happy with it.
I also am super very with it. It rides super smooth and quiet, yet very capable. I have the Pro X in tactical green w a tow hitch and it is perfect for me and our family. Congrats & enjoy!!
I mean the way I look at it, it’s nothing insane or mind blowing but looks and seems like a great mid size truck.
Who doesn’t love mediocre!
@@matthewm3912 it may be mediocre but at least they didn't make an ugly truck
@@matthewm3912 it's not mediocre lol
I totally get if someone wants more modern or luxury features, but this has highly functional buttons and hard plastics that are easy to clean, solid as hell. The Pro4X has just enough features for me. Having full LED headlamps and tail lamps is nice too. No need to consider aftermarket options
Keep the hype down so the dealers dont mark it up please 🤣🤣. Great video looks like a fun truck.
You brought out the "A" team for this review.
Nathan is funny, when Andre showed him the 1st aid and Recovery kits... He said nice, but I rather have a Tow Hitch😂😂😂
He gets disappointed at Andre like as if he owns the company😅
I like these two guys together that’s it no need no Roman.
You guys are so cool, always make the videos fun to watch. Very informative.👍🏼🙏🏼
I saw one of these new Frontiers, a dark gray one, the other day. It was parked in a parking lot and I saw it as I drove by. As I was driving by, I thought it was a freshened ‘22 Tacoma. Looked JUST like a Tacoma!
I just bought a 2004 Nissan Xterra I found on Craigslist for $4,500. 4wd, just over 120k miles. Gave it a tune-up, changed the fluids, washed it, everything works,runs great! No need to be wasting $50k for a brand new truck.
Hey, that's me. There is no way I could pay that kind of money for a Frontier.
I could not afford it and it is not worth it.
I think you have the better idea.
I ordered a hitch online for my 22 frontier. Very reasonable an super easy to install. I installed it myself
The new truck looks good, I hope Nissan returns to their former glory.
Yep I am biased. After working on Toyotas at the dealer level since 1990, and a Tacoma owner, I spent 2005-2010 at a Honda Nissan dealership. Went back to a Toyota dealership until 2017.
That said, the latest Frontier looks great. But my experience as a flat rate Technician working on Nissan trucks for 5 years, I learned at that time, that I would push my Tacoma, with only 3 wheels, axle deep in mud before I would own a Nissan truck. This was based on what went wrong, and how Nissan corporate would pay for warranty work, and how well that they stood behind the product at THAT time. With what I have to deal with now, being a shop manager, working on these trucks today, honestly my opinion has not changed. We presently have 2 Titan diesels waiting for turbos, and Frontiers waiting on rear differentials. For now, I will keep my Toyota's
I have owned two nissan frontiers first a 06' crew cab Nismo 4x4 that i sold with 240K and now a 2013 pro4x with 100k. Although these trucks are reliable and easy to work on. i have to agree with you. My wifes toyota highlander has required absolutely zero weekend time/time off to repair. I just do regular maintenance and put gas in it and it just goes, never breaks down or throws me for a saturday at autozone. My next truck will be a tacoma.
Good honest review. Which is why I keep coming back. :)
Do they not have regular trucks anymore??
That engine sounds faster than it is! Actually, I think they did a good update. Very competitive package for someone who wants a traditional pickup truck. I would agree with Nathan, it should have a tow hitch as standard. And an excellent engine without resorting to a turbocharger. I would consider it, though I am a Ford guy.
Finally subscribed, the only reviewers I feel like actually know what they are talking about.
Serious competitor to the Tacoma. Can’t wait to test drive one.
Only if you don't care about reliability and durability.
@@zarbon700 owned 3 frontiers for my company since 2005 all made it to 300k before I sold them with no issues.
@@Supernova778 The 2005 to 2020 generation was designed by Nissan before Renault started having more control over the brand. Prior to this, Nissan built very reliable vehicles. 2005 to 2020 Frontier is a 15 year old Japanese engineered vehicle that had very little changes over the many years, so it will be reliable. That's why I'm not surprised the ones you owned were reliable.
The 2022 Frontier was engineered during the Renault controlling era, so it won't be as well engineered as the previous generation you owned.
@@2011buddylee Mechanics will be laughing on their way to bank to deposit all the money you spent on repairing your out of warranty Frontier. Enjoy your time hanging out at repair shops.
@@zarbon700 agree unlike the tacoma lol
R.I.P. squirrel 13:06
So...since the fenders have that square bump out, are we expecting a new Xterra? Those fenders sure look like we could see a new X built off this platform. Thoughts?
We could only hope and wish.
Goddamn, everyone interrupts Andre. Let the man speak!! Also, 9:35 wow very telling comment
Brilliant Job of taking Next to nothing to really work with" pre model , no tow etc etc".. an making it focused an interesting, a case of "Less is More".. Well done guys..
From everything I’ve seen about this truck I say yes it was totally worth the wait for this truck I can’t wait to see how the hydraulic body mounts affect the chassis flex of this truck off road
The big pro for me is the seats: far more comfortable than all others in the class, which is a big deal on long trips. The truck should be reliable, if not abused. I can live with the faults. Trucks in this category are way too small to tow 6k# in the real world: 3K# is my comfort level for this class. This leaves payload room for a cap and light load. 4x4 is great for the tasks I shall have: the truck is not in the rock crawler class, and I would not try it. I think Nissan has a winner.
What seats do u have im considering pro x seats but sv seats and leather seats look really good
I would rather have a great truck and either upgrade the seats or put in pricy aftermarket seats.
@@oldie4210 not a bad idea. please show us and lead the way.
Need to put something under the bumper to simulate a hitch off road, even if it’s just a piece of paper that hangs down the same amount as the hitch would. Otherwise the departure angle isn’t accurate.
I bought one and traded in my 2019 RAM 1500 and bought a pro4x package with all the bells. Best midsized truck in my opinion! Its Tacoma killer!
Definitly not gonna outsell the tacoma.
@@andyham6094 No I don't think so either. But it's a far better solution to the old boring product.
@@UTVPOWERSPORTS One Toyota flaw is laziness 😂. They only update trucks when they feel sales are in danger. Now, that the ranger, updated frontier, much more competitive Colorado look for the next Tacoma to have higher payload, possibly hybrid truck and more.
@@jeffreyfurtado3681 The question is when 😪
@@UTVPOWERSPORTS 2023,24 ?
Great review guys. Keep up the content! Friggin hysterical dialogue. Nathan is cracking me up!
I'm the infamous Tacoma fan boy and I love this truck.
Theoretically, couldn't you get a Curt or Draw-Tite hitch for the previous generation Frontier and bolt it on if the frame is unchanged?
Hypothetically, yes
Non telescoping steering column is a head-scratcher?? Perhaps, Nissan is taking a page out of Ford's book. Often times, Ford will introduce an all new vehicle...with carry over parts (engine, transmission,etc) from the previous generation. Over the next couple of years, it will update those carry over items and jack up the price doing it.
I got to hope it's just because it's pee-production........That's a deal breaker with all the features new vehicles have.
@@allentoyokawa9068 Not an issue if I was 5'5" but I'm tall and have to sit with the seat all the way back, the wheel needs to move with me, like it's been able to in most cars since 2000
I have my 2002 Nissan frontier 4 doors V6, 16 inc wheels 122xxx miles and still 💪 strong as hell
Everything Nathan said at the end .. I would like to see this again but with a truck the avg buyer buys. Then what is thought of the truck?
I had the 2011 Frontier. Not a bad truck. Towed my 16' boat and 21' Tri-hull just fine for a 4.0 V6. Pick up was good. Never let me down during hunting seasons from snow or mud. Hate that it's rigid on turns all dated looks and instruments. So....I guess I would give it a thumbs up all in all, but compared to my 2019 Tacoma, I'd say...My Taco wins by a mile in many aspects, but the Frontier beats it in terms of get up and go.
too many missing items, thanks for the honest review
Truck looks great. I’d love to have one as a daily but I need a full sized pick up to do full sized truck stuff with. Plus with everything thats going on in the vehicle market place, I guess I’ll stick with my 2014 Silverado. Its not the latest, fanciest truck but it is paid for .....
Well guys I have owned several Frontiers and so far this has been the best one yet. I love the design of the 2022 truck.
does anyone understand how much more you cant get with 44k when you move up to a half ton without sacrificing much of anything other than the FEW benefits of its smaller size? even gas mileage isnt far off.
I was thinking the same thing. Might as well go half ton.
When will we have a true TFL offroad review of the Nissan?! Been waiting inpatiently !
Nissan Frontier could ALWAYS beat the TACOMA in cab comfort, for me at least.
I tend to agree with Nathan in a lot of points his choice of color is NOT one of them :) ( I like red. )
What a shame that Nissan folks chose to omit the tow hitch on this one. I was hoping to see what it can do.
Yeah I definitely disagree Nissan sucks compared to yota quality and comfort. Actually in everything
@DevilDog53 as do I and I'd never by a Nissan but that's me. Everyone has an opinion and choice.
@Supergirl not at all. Just your opinion
@@danielmurray5326 bruh why do you want people to say that Toyota is better so badly? It's not, get over it
@@ligijiji9919 um yeah it very much is. I look at facts not opinion. Toyota is hands down way better then Nissan was is and will be. That's fact.
i dont know if im rigth but the A/C vent are on the floor below front seat like the previous generation ?
It looks like a kool truck, I just wish Dodge would bring back their Dakota
Who buys a 4x4 and gives a shit about eco? 22mpg is pretty dang good for a 300hp 4x4
It's the little things that would really bother me over time. Such as the placement of the rear locker switch. Buttons and selectors should be easy to see and reach. The fuel economy isn't good at all for a mid size truck especially when a half ton full size truck can get as good if not better mileage if configured accordingly. But when the price difference is $10,000 less for this truck vs a full size truck, then it becomes a value thing.
you have no clue what 44k would get you in a half ton
Great review. I have 1 more payment on my 2016 Frontier SV Crewcab and would love having no truck payment for years to come, but this new Frontier is very tempting. The mini subwoofer under the bench is awesome, I don't mind giving up that storage space. I love the look, they improved it cosmetically but didn't over do it. I loved the old Frontier because it looked traditional and with this new Frontier its traditional but with flair. My biggest complaint on the old Frontiers was the screen size, so glad they finally improved that feature. Its got the looks, got the power, and the practical features.
I really like it. I test drove a new Tacoma and didn't care for it. I plan on cross shopping the frontier and the tundra next year.
You should consider the Titan. Cheaper than a Tundra.
@@myduodenum the titan sales tell you all you need to know.
@@beexiong2995 That they don't market it? GT-R sales are low too, must be a POS.
@@myduodenum how many GTRs have been sold the last 10 years? That car is made in 2008. How many refreshes has it had LOL
@@beexiong2995 doesn't need a refresh when it's still better than everything else.
Just bought this 2022 frontier in the ProX version with lava cloth seats in green yesterday. Great truck no regrets.
I owned an 06 Frontier crew cab SE for 15 years. Loved the truck, just bought a 2020 F150 XLT. I miss much of the convenience of a small truck but my Ford with 375 hp gets better gas mileage than my old Nissan. I waited forever for the new Frontier and turns out they took too long.
This is why TFL is the best! They are honest and don't allow the manufacturer to bully them into making their vehicles look like Ass Kickers when they are clearly not. Great video again keep them up! Can't wait for the ford Maverick Review
I love the truck, but $60,000 for a pro 4x in Canada doesn't work for anyone. They said the starting price would be $29,000. Instead it's $39,000 for a base model. That's not acceptable.
Is the locker same as Tacoma that it only activates when in 4 low
Due to various shortages, (steel and manpower), manufacturers across the board have severe backorder problems. However, the old body style hitch (999T5-BY500) will bolt up.
Love the new format, guys!
My titan Pro4x has the same hard plastic on the doors, but the armrests are really nice and soft. I don't mind the hard plastic because I know i can wash it down easily....like he said.
Exactly; the other plus of the “hard plastic”
Is that it’s durable. The softer materials that are common to a lot of German cars tends to wear faster.
I got the SV in gun metallic just love it. The six foot bed is mandatory the 5ft is useless in any truck. I sacrificed a few options over the Pro 4 locking differential, phone charger pad, Blistein shocks. I use my atv mostly during hunting and occasionally tow a 3700 lb Feather Lite 19 ft Jayco. Great all round truck and mileage too 10.2L/100Km if I keep it under 110 kms/hr
Can’t wait for you guys to take it off road. I’m not sold on it just yet! Gonna really miss the IKE for this one especially with the class leading hp.
I’m a Tacoma guy myself but I have huge respect for Nissan keeping a naturally aspirated v6. I guarantee that the engine will outlast any turbo I4
16:52 Agree with the driver, I hate having to contort myself just to get in or out of a truck. So many vehicles focus on aerodynamic drag and slant the windshield far to back. This caused me to bump my head getting in or out. I like a wide birth driver side.
Shortage of chips shortage of materials, how about we stop paying people to stay at home and we get people back to work? …
Tack on another $5000 on to the price due to a Market Adjustment Fee.
3k where im at
@DevilDog53 some dealers are selling for or near msrp, but it's pretty uncommon now
Picking my alert red pro4x lux on Monday, very excited! Great videos guys!
I actually LIKE this Frontier!
Of course, I would be adding a few things like heavy duty bumpers + bushbars + winch front and back AND a higher lift and some pretty big NITTO Grappler tires to it and an in-bed rollbar with LED lightbar and an extra in-bed gas tank to it to make it better fit my 4x4 waaaaaay offroad boondocking/overlander life-style.
I definitely like the new front hood and grill design. If the finance options are good with better interest rates and lower monthly payments, I could easily see myself getting one of these just to be different than everyone else!
The Toyota Tacoma has been upping their prices to such a level, that I am getting onion-eyes from their dealer lot sticker prices. I've been SERIOUSLY looking at a Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition OR this 2022 Frontier (with some mods!) as a 2nd backwoods lifestyle truck until my reservation for a Ford F150 Lightning used as a daily driver goes through next year!
In my books, for now it is a TIE between the Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition versus 2022 Nissan Frontier as Best-4x4-Offroad-Bang-For-The-Bucks trucks of ANY TYPE be they medium-size, full-size or heavy duty! Can the Ford Ranger haul more in true comfort and can the Toyota Tacoma crawl rocks better? YES they can! .....BUT..... these two trucks give you TRUE VALUE !!! -- as in you spend less money to get nearly the same abilities! That saved money buys you a lot of gas and lot of extra food and gear to go camping/fishing more often which is the KEY metric --- How much extra free time and extra memories do you get for your saved money?
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there goes ALL your payload
"Of course, I would be adding a few things like heavy duty bumpers + bushbars + winch front and back AND a higher lift and some pretty big NITTO Grappler tires to it and an in-bed rollbar with LED lightbar and an extra in-bed gas tank"
@@dirtrider88 Automakers STRESS TEST their truck frames at 3x up 5x the stated bed and payload weights. Compressive, Tensile, Torsion, Flexion and Shear tests on all metal parts is part and parcel of a truck frame and truck bed development program.
With proper upgraded springs, shocks, wheels, tires and bed-mount bolts and mounting pucks plus some extra T and L brackets welded to the frame, I can put 1200 lbs into the bed and 1000 lbs (250 lbs per person) into the cab with NO PROBLEM!
It's less than $5000 worth of tubing and hardware since I can weld the bumpers, bushbars, winch mounts, roll-bars myself in less than two days using 6061 Series or 8000 series Aluminum plate and 3 inch diameter tubing!
I only need to order the winches and light bars and wheels/tires --- Everything else I build myself.
If I can design and model it in my CAD/CAM/FEA program, I can build it and weld it together!
Again, I like the 2022 Nissan Frontier as it has potential to save you some big bucks per month if you get 72 and 84 month financing terms.
I still like the Chevy Colorado ZR2 Bison Edition BETTER which is basically a Chevy-built Ranger Raptor BUT for those of you who have limited credit and/or want NEW and don't mind 72 month financing, you are getting a BARGIAN of a well-thought-out Daily Driver + 4x4 Offroad + Boondocking + Overlander truck when you get the 4xPro versions!
All the Toyota FanBois can keep the TRD Pro with its Eye-watering prices! The Frontier ticks 97% of the boxes of the TRD-pro at a HECK OF A LOT CHEAPER PRICE!
That leaves you more money for gas and gear for your 3 day weekends and 2-or-3 week boondocking trips to the backwoods fishing holes and campsites!
What's not to like about that?
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@@StarGateSG7 you know what happens when you get in an accident and kill someone while over payload? it aint good
@@dirtrider88 It's also called getting AN ACTUAL LICENCED MECHANICAL and STRUCTURAL ENGINEER (and a metallurgist too!) to oversee my design and sign off on it!
The science is there! I can PROVE the safety of my modifications, so it not an issue on my part.
Unlike others, I actually TEST and SIMULATE my mods on an FEA (Finite Element Analysis) system to see if they are SAFE to use and apply on a real world vehicle!
I work with aerospace systems that are faaaaaaaar more safety critical than a ground vehicle mod, so I think I will adhere to what the engineers say can and cannot be done!
AND, once the insurance company signs off on my mods (ICBC is pretty picky here in Canada!) I am legally covered!
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I’m not sure how you are figuring value, but the tested truck is basically Nissan’s version of a Tacoma TRD Off-Road, similarly equipped and similarly priced. They even look the same. But they’re not the same. The Nissan won’t have the Toyota’s reliability, durability, aftermarket support, or resale value. Again, not sure how you see the Nissan as the value pick in this class.
I love my ranger, I had a 4 cylinder Tacoma, but when I tried the ford ranger, forget it I traded my Tacoma. I love my Ranger, I never thought I would love a truck like this one.
They look super basic and cheap.. NOT a go to town kind of truck, thats for sure
@@doylee469 yeah, I agree, but when you put bigger tires, lift kit. Man there's a big difference. But I do agree, they look odd without Modifications 😉
A new Tacoma TRD off road is 10k less. Im pretty sure I know what one i would choose. lol, I really want to like the frontier , but I cant. Especially at 50k....
Agreed. I had a 19 Colorado and traded for 21 Ranger. Had little cosmetic issues from Chevy and the Ranger has been in for air bag sensor issues and just broke down 250 miles away from home with silly “remote start fuse” problems! Twice in for repairs less than 4K miles. Ford customer service the worse I ever experienced. The Nissan just too expensive like sone have said Ram needs to step up.
I have a 23 Pro4X luxury it now comes with the lava red inserts and stitching inside and all PRO4X’s come with tow hitches. I’m guessing that one didn’t have it because it was pre-production. I absolutely love my truck, so smooth and quiet. I’m averaging 12.5 L per hundred which is 19 miles per gallon. My brother has a 2022 Tacoma off-road and my truck is way smoother on the blacktop.
What's the difference between pro and pro luxury except for the leather?
@@Blue-moon12 leather, fender stereo with a subwoofer, sunroof.
After 8 months I’m averaging 11.4 L per hundred, 20.6 mpg
I think that it looks better than the Tacoma on the outside (especially that front end). This coming from a diehard Toyota guy.
But, I still like the Tacoma's interior better. It looks like Nissan skimped on the materials that they used inside; hard/cheaper plastics on the interior, and the dull grey dash. I still need to see one in person, though. Maybe my opinion will change.
Also, this doesn't seem to have Crawl Control like the Toyota TRD PRO. What gives, Nissan?
Having said that, Nissan finally updated the Frontier, which is cool to see, and waaaay overdue at this point.
I’ve had both and it’s not close, frontier to me is best inside and outside!
So...my 2018 gets 21 mpg with an automatic...so besides some modern tech, what's worth the upgrade cost?
Love Nathan point of view !
Replaced my 2017 Colorado with 2023 Frontier. I really like the Frontier. Only thing I miss from the Chevy is the rear bumper made it easy to get in and out of the bed of truck. Frontier feels more solid and drives better than the Chevy did.
Thet look great and hopefully, like the last generation, this is the better and reliable options in their entire line-up. THANK YOU NISSAN FOR THE TRADITIONAL AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION.
Nathan seemed hungover, hangry, or mad it wasn’t the rivian
I like how Andre giving instructions
I get the feeling he gets left out a bit
The built up center consul is a deal breaker for me. Need to be able to move the legs around. They need to bring back bench seats.
I want this exact spec. Yes, I’ll buy a green truck.
You want it with a tow mode and no trailer hitch??? Just giving you a hard time in the name of fun. Have a good day/night/whatever, where ever you are.
The door sills being hard. He said people will say it will be easier to clean. But, I drive my vehicle everyday, I clean it occasionally. I'll take small comforts used everyday over small conveniences used rarely every time.
If I was in the market for a new midsize Pickup,I'd probably lean pretty heavy toward the new Frontier.
Its either Fronter or Ranger at this point. Toyotas too expensive and underpowered, Chevy & GMC are too unreliable. Then again Nissan has had a history of being unreliable too and the new Ford EcoBoost has a lawsuit that I've heard about hanging over it.
@@Pizza626 In the midsize I don't find the Ranger as pleasing to the eye for some reason. Now in the halfton class the F150 inverter sounds very interesting to me. I probably don't need it,but it sure sounds nice.Of course if I had that though I'd start dreaming of a travel trailer.
@@tritchie6272 I'm with you on the ranger. Looks like an ol generic truck. Something you would see in a movie or videogame if they couldn't get cleared to use an actual brand truck.
Take a look at the pricing on whatever spec Ford maverick you’d pick, it’s really amazing
I own a '19 Frontier and part of the reason I bought it is that I have a decade of junkyard trucks to get parts off of, it fits were I want to go, and it sit's the lowest to the ground in class and you can still touch the bottom of the bed from the side rail.
I wish ford would have just 4 camed the 4.0 and called it good. Who needs 4 doors in a little truck that is ment to work. People that use trucks for every day grocery getters ruined the truck market as a work utility vehicle and way killed being a reasonable price. My 2005 fx4 was well under 30k brand new and it was with in 200lbs load capacity of the f150. It has a 6 foot bed. I put an electric brake controller on it so I could tow a concrete pump in a pinch. Really I think all manufacturers are. Missing a huge segment now of the job site commuter where not only dose the vehicle needs to work hard it needs to be economic and affordable. It I was using that truck for work the back seat is coming out completely and getting filled with tools. Because that's what we do. Just go to any job site with any trade and take a good hard look at how they really use there trucks.
Ford does a better job offering options than anyone else. Buying an XL with FX4 and tow package is too easy, Nissan and Toyota need to wake up (SR5 with locker is a much anticipated start). But still, in the Ranger, no 4-door with 6' bed option... argh!!!
The only reason I am interested in the Frontier is it doesn't have a turbo. Who wants an earlier failure component that increases pressure in the engine and forces faster oil dilution? These manufacturers are giving us less expensive engines with crappy turbo's bolted on to save money. The fuel mileage is still terrible, the powerband disappears compared to the NA counterpart, and the long term reliability is a known fail.
Frontier has direct injection engine which is terrible for reliability.
As a previous owner of a 2016 pro4x Frontier, I like the new one. Hopefully the engine/trans combo proves just as reliable as the 4.0 was. The one thing I'll say about this particular model, the green looks great but the red in the badges doesn't really match well with it. The red would look good on some other colors though.
Whoa just got to the end... they didn't make the turning radius better? the previous gen turned worse than a cruise ship.
The Turn radius could end up a deal breaker for me. My 2009 frontier 3 times dented it due to crappy rear visibility and terrible turn radius while parking. I bet an F150 could out turn it. The quiet road noise and all the other new stuff looks great. They need a trim between SV and the Pro4x for adults with $ who want leather and good stereo. the decals are so juvenile. Didn’t buy the 4x in 2009 due to the roof racks with lettering,also juvenile. Did not want to be a billboard. Cross shopping this against Ridgeline and Hyundai Santa Cruz which has sigh…ventilated seats.
@@gregmyrland2515 "They need a trim between SV and the Pro4x for adults with $ who want leather and good stereo." They have that, and it was reviewed on the other TFL channel.
I saw a PRO-4X on Autotrader listed for 52,000!!! 7000.00 over MSRP!! Crazy times.