Nissan deserves a lot of credit for persevering in the full-size truck market. Their truck is on a par of features and performance with Ford, GM, and Ram. I love the 5.6L V8. 400 HP, 413 lb*ft of torque makes it competitive with any V8 out there. It's too bad that the 5.0L V8 Cummins diesel didn't catch on.
The V8 Cummins was not a good motor. Many issues which you can discover on the forums. Nissan and Cummins support is dying fast. For the engine weight, it was under-powered and a fuel guzzler. The I6 6.7L beats it in all categories including fuel efficiency.
@@freedomisntfree_44 i would take titan over F150 in any configuration. I was financially able to choose which truck to get and Titan XD was on top of my list.
My 2022 Nissan owners manual says that the frontier pro 4X is rated at 6270 lb towing, so technically you were overloaded on the frontier. It did a phenomenal job!
If I was in the market for a mid-size, I think the frontier would be my pick. v6, no turbos and 9speed. Not a fan of the turbo engines and the Tacoma seems underwhelming.
really it is a good truck, and you probably would want it over the Tacoma for a bit of more power, and it is not a bad truck at reliability, however, if you are the type of person that would want to keep that particular truck forever, go Toyota, it is by far the best at reliability, and it is approximately the same base price, but the Nissans are not that bad, so it is really up to you to decide
Frontier is a main pick of mine as I will be replacing my truck within the year. Looks, V6, better driver side seating position rear disk brakes, better infotainment.
The Ridgeline does not tow well IMO. I had a 2019 AWD. 3000 pounds is all I felt it could comfortably tow. The transmission temps would climb alarmingly high when towing 3000 pounds and it would shift quite a bit.
Nissan deserves more credit, im a Chevy guy who drives a NISSAN. I'll admit it had some growing pains, probably built on a Friday, but its a solid TRUCK and for what u get dollar wise, leather loaded around view monitor, you can't beat it.
I’m a Chevy guy and Toyota guy. my first truck was a 2003 supercharged Tacoma beast of a truck. My second truck was a 2011 Silverado Z 71. I’ve had many trucks throughout the years Toyota and Chevy. Currently own A Chevy 2500 and a frontier. The new Tacomas are shit. I’ve had 4, a 2017, a 2019, and 2 2023 pros. This Frontier pro 4x premium is a better truck.
One of our parts guys at the Chevy dealership I work at bought a Pro-4X Titan after the transmission in his Silverado blew, the Titan is definitely an underrated truck
The torture test I used to see for the titans really caught my attention. They would purposely drive it at an angle and even directly into a curb. You would see the truck bounce and jolt but still drive away.I’m sure folks figured we can make a vehicle extremely strong but the squishies inside are the limit.I have a friend who always raves about Rams safety ratings which for me if your not an idiot and don’t abuse your things everything should last. I’ve heard of rams steering being car like which I think should be really popular with all the old ladies. . . . Hahah no but I imagine it is easier and smoother but a little more delicate. The truck also doesn’t have the auto start stop function which I like.
Remember they didnt dwell on it, but this is a Pro4X, which is an offroad oriented trim. Pretty decent results for something not really set up for towing.
Personally owned 3 Titans just sold to purchase a 21 trd pro the Titan is way under appreciated the one i just sold had over 200k sold to a family member still running strong not one single problem not one oil leak my other one had 375,000 miles and was still running without any problems great trucks
@@BrokeSpaceLaser i’ve always wanted a TRD pro Fox suspension BBS wheels and with it being the last of the V8s that’s why not interested in the new TwinTurbo six cylinder and for whatever reason the Tundra just has a way better resale value but like I said the titan is an outstanding truck would never speak badly of it out of the three that I have owned not one of them ever left me stranded or give me any problems I have owned plenty of Toyotas as well
@@gsrport1 Aw cool! I can completely understand that. I have heard pretty good things about the 22 tundra. But I understand wanting a V8 over the turbo V6. I was just curious as to your reason, but I get it, if I had the money I’d do the same, but I just bought a 22 Pro4x Frontier.
I think the last 4.0 Frontier they tested was a 2014 Pro4x. Pulling a 5,700 lb boat up the Ike it was slower than the new Frontier with 6700 lbs. The 4.0 was a great motor. Would be curious to see how the 4.0 would work with the 9 speed.
I understand this is about the Frontier but y’all continue to short change the Titan. Test it with the same 8100lbs you have been testing all the other half tons with.
I honestly saw the new age titan as being the second best truck after the tundra and with the tundra loosing the V8 I can now say the Titan is my favorite truck now with ford being 3rd or 4th
Love my new Titan XD and my 18 Armada too. I just wish that i had option to get front bench seat in pro4x trim. For me that was a must, so i got SV. Other things i had to have in a truck: v8, NO statr stop garbage, NO cylinder deactivation and NO premium fuel ($0.50 per gallon for no real benefit, NO thanks.)
So refreshing not having start stop and other nanny's lighting up our dash isn't it! I love my 18' SL midnight edition. It's basic and such a solid truck. Seems like all other trucks have an overwhelming amount of nanny's...
We currently have an ‘18 frontier, we’ve since bought a travel trailer. The frontier pulls it, plenty of engine and transmission. Stability on the other hand, is in question. Im currently debating between a Titan XD, and a ram 3/4 ton. I’ve test driven the big threes 3/4 tons, and the XD.
I've had my 2022 pro 4x in tactical green for just over two months now. It's been dead reliable and Nissan seems to have amazing build quality. I am stepping up from a 2018 civic hatch so I was obviously expecting an increase in my spending on gas, but I've gotta say the Frontier has impressed me with its fuel economy. The best I've had it, while driving is 8.4 L/100km, and after a trip is 9.0 L/100km. I have also been able to get a projected fuel range of up to 760km from a tank. All in all very impressed and can't wait for the many years ahead with my Frontier!
@Glitch rush just keeping positive chief. We are all aware of the issues that have plagued some of the other new vehicles that have been released lately. 👍
if U could, keep me/us informed, looking for my next new midsize this year to update from my 98 Dodge Dakota 5.2l since a new Dakota seems to be dead issue
325,000 miles on my Titan and still runs perfectly. I will look to the Frontier as my next truck. Nissan makes one of the best motors you can buy. You might get a nicer and maybe little more roomier interior out of Canyon or Colorado but this Frontier will out last any domestic truck by decades!!
I love my 2021 Titan S Base Model! I’ve basically turned it into a P4X minus the locker. Oh and you can install a tekonsha p3 brake controller in the frontier in about 5-10 min so not a big deal and it’s a better controller than most OEM
2020 Frontier Pro4x awesome old school look, with the new 3.8L v6, 9 speed sweet tranny, 5' bed, body graphics, roof rack, bilstein susp, leather seats, oh man an INSTANT classic when I got it. There are a few others out there but this one is mine! The midsize truck category has many fine entries in the field, and Nissan with the Frontier is a reliable, good looking, fun running, value proposition. Body on frame, a tough cookie, and a kick ass ride. Whats not to like?
I just bought a 2022 frontier, had a Tacoma for 6 years. I like the frontier better. It in my opinion has a better engine and transmission .I also like the feel and the way the frontier drives.great truck as far as I'm concerned. Would highly recommend.
When you're just maintaining 60 MPH and other traffic is blowing past you in the empty middle lane @16:30, that's your hint to GET OUT OF THE PASSING LANE.
I’ve said it before, but I would really love to see a comparison of the “old” Gen 2 Titan with the 7 speed vs the new Gen 2 Titan with the 9 speed (drag race and towing). Same with the Frontier, but the old 4.0 vs the new 3.8.
@@occckid123 The gears must be really spread out in the 9 speed. They had to gear down to a 3.69 to achieve similar results as the 7 speed with 2.93 gear ratio.
@@bwarren228 the gears are shorter but it's still slower than the 7spd. I believe the titan is almost 1 second slower than before to 60mph. I could be wrong!
@@occckid123 I’ve heard similar, but haven’t driven a 9 speed Titan before (I own a 7 speed). I still want to see it though, but I somehow doubt Nissan wants that comparison to be made.
@@occckid123 you are correct however these trucks are not built for 0-60. for example the duramax L5P 6 speeds are faster 0-60 than the L5P 10spds because less gears to run through, however the 10 speed is smoother, better for towing, more efficient, lower under drive and higher overdrive. Race a 10spd vs a 6spd from 60-100 with a trailer, the 10 speed will win every time. They are built for a purpose and 0-60 isn’t one of them.
That is pretty impressive for the Frontier. Of course probably would not want to do this daily but if there’s a need once in a while, that’s pretty darn good.
The one thing Nissan has nailed down is trucks. Dang they make good trucks. Well, we also have a 07 Sentra with 230k miles on it, which I know it’s not the norm because never had issues with the engine or CVT.
This new frontier is a game changer. Always the cheaper choice in the midsize market but great value. Now up there in performance and looks as well. Maybe eat up more tacoma market. Absolutely more reliable than the GM and Ford competitors. Gladiator is a niche truck style. So it’s basically the frontier vs the Tacoma in the consumers eyes if looking for this midsize truck in USA 2022
Andre you guys should start keep track of the 35mph to 60mph times for all the tests. I feel like this is very important for people that tow understanding a hard acceleration on a steep on ramp and how the truck handles it.
I paid 49k for my 21 pro4x Titan and it’s dealer price was only 52990 so prior to Covid this was the cheapest set of trucks to buy on the market but nicest interior outside of a ram or updated ford
Excellent, have been waiting for this to air. Gives me some peace of mind regarding towing heavier loads on occasion with the new Frontier platform. Max I’ll be towing is around 5K so will have a comfortable margin. Ordered a Frontier a couple weeks ago and looking forward to it when it arrives once built and shipped.
I found in my Titans they didn’t have as much engine braking as you would expect but on the flip side, it seemed to rev up nearly as quickly as a Lexus LFA
I love this videos. I was in the market for the Frontier back when it first came out but once I got in it, it was quite small and cramped. So I ended up getting the Titan. Either way I love both trucks.
I had 2 frontier's and loved them both. I had hoped they would bring the deisel version because I use my truck to tow my campers. I finally went with a Colorado with the 2.8 DURAMAX and couldn't be happier.
Tacoma requires 5000rpms on the ike gauntlet and everyone complains and calls it weak (mr truck actually had to back off several times on the throttle to prevent going over speed) but the frontiers running 6000 rpm here foot to the floor and ya’ll are like “what a stout little truck.” not to mention that Titan needed 4000+ rpm too. ya’ll are wack. 95% of you should be driving a honda ridgeline
I think they were being too critical. It looks like the truck hit the line right when he said stop the first time. They didn’t need to add the extra 2 two tenths lol!
The biggest problem Nissan has isn’t its style at least on the frontier that is or its reputation, it’s the marketing. There simply isn’t any. As a result, there is no mindset in the consumer as to what the frontier represents. It is by far a much more superior truck, than the Tacoma. And now that the Tacoma has given up the V6 and gone with much more complicated, twin, turbo four-cylinder, the Nissan frontier has a golden opportunity in terms of marketing with it normally aspirated V6. The advertisement opportunities are endless and priceless. I hope Nissan does something with this.
As a loyal Ford owner, I am now looking at the Frontier for a daily driver. The prices of half tons are insane and my brother just purchased a Pro4X Frontier and loves it. I keep my stuff a very long time and am going to start test driving the Frontier SV. The value is insane and would tie me over for nearly a decade until I needed to upgrade back to a 1/2 ton for towing, family etc. Your insight is spot on. I will never sell my old F-150 which is heavily modded or my equally old Mustang, but it's time for a new daily driver that's not 20 years old lol. Utilitarian, basic NA V6, reasonable mpg and seems solidly built. The marketing just sucks. But that's good for pricing. Sub 40k for a 2wd SV Crew Cab long bed. That's fantastic when a base F-150 Supercrew STX 2wd 5.0 is literally $50k+ and doesn't even include a power seat....
I own a 2020 Nissan Altima SV with 60k miles and a 19 Honda Pilot with 30k miles, both vehicles have been amazing. I am seriously considering the Ridgeline or the Frontier to add to our fleet. This is a great video.
First of I like all your test videos, real world testing, not just some dude in shorts driving around the block and giving it a doug score. I bought the Frontier SV model with the convenience/tow package and wonder why Nissan didn’t include a brake controller either. I will have to buy a Prodigy brake controller since I plan on pulling a 3500 lb camper with it. I previously owned a ‘09 Frontier since new and have no doubt I will keep my ‘22 for 10 years or more as well. I like the comfortable seats, the handling and ride and the heated seats and steering wheel. The thing I don’t like is Nissan deleted the cargo channels on the bottom of the bed, I used them all the time to strap down lumber to. No other manufacturer had these as far as I know. Also the control switches on the lower left side are too far down to see, if Nissan raised the display panel about 2 inches they could relocate the switches below the panel. It would be an even better truck!
Thank you, How do we save the Titan, It came out before the full size Tundra, but can't keep up. Think about how many car brands there are? We need to keep the competition at peak. Save the Titan.
I have no regrets purchasing a 2022 Nissan Frontier as I came from a 2018 Colorado that absolutely sucked, which made me temporary go over to a 2019 Nissan Frontier for a couple of years till the 2022 Frontier came out. My only gripe about the New Frontier is it still turns wider than a full size truck.
Unless that's very soon, I think it will be a used Titan, as Nissan has already discontinued the NV vans (which share the chassis with the Titan XD) and it appears that Nissan is discontinuing the Titan and Titan XD.
If you had to choose ANY model of Nissan Titan OR Frontier, in any high-altitude location such as Colorado, Montana, Alberta, British Columbia, Alaska, Yukon or super-cold winter area such Wisconsin, Minnesota, Vermont, Michigan, Upstate New York, then a used Titan XD or the Latest 2022 Titan SHOULD be your choice. If you are coastal California, Washington state, Oregon, Vancouver, BC, or in a summer hot New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Florida then the Nissan Frontier is the better choice due to the smaller size and better newer engine technology saving you fuel/maintenance costs. ALWAYS buy a new Nissan truck on extended financing because you tend to get enough deals on them compared to Ford, GMC, Chevy or Toyota that the money you save paying out monthly on extended 72 month financing still leaves you enough left over monthly that fuel and weekend trips are far more affordable than the other trucks. It basically means you get MORE out of your truck on the weekends and daily driving meaning more PERSONAL FUN TIME out of the Nissan trucks than the others because you SAVE more money per month which can be put towards your weekend fun camping/fishing/4x4 time. When you compare trucks between the major manufacturers, you MUST categorize yourself into a specific financial band BALANCING the looks, fuel costs, maintenance costs, resale value, hauling/towing ability and 4x4/off-road capability versus your monthly payments or outright cash outlay. If you WANT a mainstream U.S. truck, then any of the three North American majors will do for mid-size, full size or heavy duty trucks. They are ALL powerful, tow and haul a lot and financing is not outrageous. If you WANT high resale value, a Toyota Tundra/Tacoma is hard to beat but damn expensive on a monthly payments basis. If you are younger and just started in your trades career and need a weekend warrior truck AND a daily tool/gear hauler at a good affordable monthly payment, a Nissan Frontier looks good and so does a Chevy Colorado ZR2! If you want PURE high-end interior comfort AND good hauling/towing ability then the RAM 1500 Limited is Numero Uno right now! It's expensive but it sure has near-Mercedes Benz level of interior luxury and technological creature comforts. For the BIG toy-hauler and fifth wheel trailer haulers, then the Ford F-450 Dually is the hands-down the winner on the longevity/maintenance-free count due to its commercial-class axles and frame rail construction. The best all-round full size hauler would be a Ford F150 Powerboost which does everything good but not totally spectacularly class leading. The price is right when you get a mid-optioned FX4 or Tremor version around $55,000 USD or under. It best balances interior comfort, hauling ability and off-road use in one truck at a decent price. That 7200 Watt on-board generator also DOES make a BIG difference for your worksite and campsite tools/electronics charging and powering. If you need a 7 passenger family hauler, I actually suggest a Stellantis/Chrysler Grand Voyager well-optioned mini-van which has LUXURY AND person-carrying capacity that is easy to get in and out of AND can take your family to the local parks and beaches in sheer comfort! V
Dodge, we need a Dakota with a V8 again. I have an 02 with the 5.9, just waiting for them come out with a new one! That gladiator is selling really well, that platform would suit the Dakotas return. 👀
Great truck, i do have 2019 titan sv 4x4 and I loved, i hope they keep the v8 in the future and don't make the same mistakes that tundra with not v8...
I understand about the tundra not keeping the V8 i see what yoy are saying. But with or without the V8 the tundra in Any configuration from 2022 forward will outperform and outlast any truck from nissan.
@@putmeincoach7663 but that drivetrain has been around since 2015. Those turbos will fail eventually. But there are multiple vehicles in the lexus line with the same engine with high 200k and one over 320k with a failure at 321k. So ues they will eventually fail but most likely you won't own the vehicle when the mileage is that high most Americans don't. And yes as much as I would love for the tundra to keep the 5.7 or bring over the lexus 5.0 thos is the way the market is going unfortunately. Nissan too will have to find an alternative to their V8 engine. And it will more than likely be a V6 twin turbo or supercharged With that being said there is no life where I would choose the titan over the tundra. Ever...
@@derakbell8143 True that a forced induction engines will outperform a NA one. However, that’s the issue that I have with the new Tundra. That’s all they’re offering, a forced induction engine. They’re taking away our choices, and if I wanted a forced induction engine, I’d just turbo a V8.
There's no such thing as "narrow wheelbase": wheelbase is the distance between the axles, so if it's not very long it's "short", not "narrow". The term you needed was "track": that's the lateral distance between tire contact patch centres.
I can understand docking points for the safety chain hook being so hard to get to. I can also understand docking for not having a brake controller. But I don't agree with docking cause it didn't grow. It's supposed to be midsize,not full sized.
With the way gas prices are going id say midsize. The midsizers can tow what the old 2005 V8’s could tow all while getting better MPG. The midsizers are pretty comfortable places to be in unless your big/tall/or overweight.
Home run with this truck. I really think this is the mid size leader at the moment. Not fancy, but a great option for the market. The powertrain is the gem.
I've been looking at the Maverick for my needs. I don't off road or tow. But I need the bed for trips to Lowes and taking my mower over to mow my daughter's yard. I need a truck small and low enough for my mother to get in and out. The Maverick would be perfect, but it's brand new. If I could get a two wheel drive Frontier without a lift package, that would be great.
I have a 2019 Frontier Pro4x and love it! Solid, reliable truck that actually drives like a truck! It’s a gas hog but it’s a truck, if I wanted gas mileage I’d have bought a Prius. Great 4 wheel drive capability, won’t get stuck, lol. Just the best truck on the market for my needs. Wouldn’t trade her for anything!
I traded my 19 ranger for a 2022 pathfinder. Get the frontier. The v6 and the tech and looks alone are better than the ranger. The current ranger just felt so cheap to me. I’m loving my pathfinder and I loved the ranger, but I would go with the frontier. Unless like you said your wanna see the new ranger will look like
The average age of cars in the US has been going up, and surprise surprise looks like US dealerships are in for 2021 being the most money they've ever made in history. I don't understand, just don't buy a new car right now, people must be bored, spending 64k Canadian on a Frontier, IS INSANE, I should be working at a dealership selling cars, providing no service to the world but padding my condo portfolio in new Mexico.
I like it. Frontier looks like a stout little truck. With that, I've got to wonder if the suspension isn't a little stiff for off-roading. A little more flexible suspension would help off-road maneuvering but may not be as compliant with a heavy trailer. I don't think you buy a midsize though to pull 6000# all the time, so why not set-up the suspension for a little more movement.
Because when you aren't towing you have your dirt bike or other cargo I'm the back. Real pickup owners have to truck for a reason, to carry something back there!
The suspension is stiff on the older ones, and not even the Pro-4X versions. I had an SV and thought both the suspension and the steering were a little too stiff. But that said, you get used to it and then don’t give it much thought. My 2014 was such a beast it went anywhere and everywhere in just rear wheel drive. That was the most impressive feature to me. Had 4WD that was literally never needed, and I’m talking about miles and miles of driving in 8” snow (43 miles one way to get to work) on roads nobody else had driven. Also off road in sloppy mud and sand. Used rear drive only, and on stock tires, it went everywhere. It was just an unbelievable performing truck.
I have had 3 Nissan trucks and all were completely reliable. Over 200k miles on each and never had a trip top the shop.I don't really understand why they get so much hate especially from people who have never owned one. I have driven tacomas and they are really not great trucks power ride and uncomfortable seating position.
I know it'd be a lot if extra work but I'd love to see an extra run up and down the mountain the way most of us watching would really drive. Mainly by shifting gears manually up and down. It'd slow what the truck is truly capable of rather than what it's programmed to do. Most viewers here are smart enough to know the difference and it wouldn't confuse us. If anything it'd help us by showing proper towing tips rather than just hoping the manufacturer did it right. Add it in to the Super Ike maybe if not all test.
I’ve yet to understand the purpose of downhill brake applications. If your not using cruise then the truck doesn’t know what speed to try and maintain. It comes down to rolling resistance. So one please explain what I’m missing. Thanx.
Some transmissions look at brake applications, speed, throttle, etc. input to determine if the truck is speeding up even though the throttle is at 0% and the brake is being applied. Particularly when the transmission is in tow/haul mode the computer will downshift to increase engine braking and reduce the tendency of the truck to speed up downhill. The cruise control doesn't factor in at all, but the transmission (and maybe engine) computer still can know you are trying to slow down or your are descending a hill. The IMU and help too.
It’s a long range downhill performance test excluding the wheel brakes. If the tow vehicle is requiring many brake applications, you have a higher probability of overheating the wheel brakes, all other factors held constant.
Agree. I wish they would manually downshift so we'd know what the truck was capable of rather than what it's programmed to do. Most all of us would control the gears manually in that situation.
I like the Frontiers looks a lot. I’d like to see a panoramic roof, a for lack of a better word “Raptor” version where Nissan puts a performance suspension and 33” tires. I’d also appreciate heated/cooled seats. I’d also like 8-way powered seats along with a power telescopic steering wheel etc. I’m getting old…. Ok let’s face it, I’m old. I really appreciate all the luxury features on my Ford F-150 Platinum. I’d just like all the luxury packed into a mid size truck.
@@MrTruckTV lol…. If your like me…. Arthritic lower back and hands…. Well it’s darn nice to have the heated adjustable seats and heated steering wheel. I have a love hate relationship with leather. Love it for ease of maintenance.. hate it when I’m sweating like an old horse. So the cooled or vented seats are darn nice. I don’t think many people can relate to men my age. When my grandfather (Ira Tidwell 1889-1982) started teaching me to shoot and drive, we had 4 trucks at the Ranch; 1949 Ford 1.5 ton flat bed truck, 1962 dodge 1500 step side long bed and a 1965 Chevy 1500 step side long bed and a a brand new 1968 Ford F-250. I drove the Chevy the most but when carrying larger loads of Hay or firewood, drive the 1949 Ford 4x4. The 1949 ( www.google.com/search?q=1949+ford.1.5+ton+truck&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgdii=5I6xcDQQkl7ysM&imgrc=j3popGIwWo3eYM) didn’t have synchronized gears and it had a lever on the floor that shifted from two wheel drive to four wheel drive and it also had another shifter that 1/2 the gear ratio of the transmission. It was a beast to drive. But a 5’ 3” 9 year old could do it lol. I guess I’m just reminded of how far trucks have come. From my perspective, there isn’t a bad truck made today. Some don’t make any sense to me but that the beauty of our free nation. I think if I could afford one, I’d buy a 2023 GMC Sierra Denali with the diesel motor. Or the 2022 F-150 Platinum Hybrid or Diesel. Not sure which. Drove an Ram Longhorn recently and that was probably the nicest cabin I’ve ever been in. But I don’t care for the exterior colors or hood /grill combinations. I absolutely love TFL staff. The work you all put into being informative and entertaining is wonderful.
@@bret9741 Thanks for watching, I appreciate the massaging seats on high end full size trucks and SUV's. I've come to appreciate leather. I was an auto broker for AAA in my younger years and retired folks always wanted leather. They tell me leather is easier to slide in and out. Nobody wants to drag their ass
As a 2011 Frontier Pro4x owner in CO, I really wish Nissan had a factory tow pkg option with a brake controller. Even at a premium, I would rather have that installed and warranty then have U-Haul do it. And they are the other 3rd-party I could find.
Owned a 19 Tacoma. It was a good truck but a rough ride. It was like drving a brick. Upgraded too the 22 frontier pro4x about 4 months ago. Love it. It rides better. Tech is way better. Haven't towed with it yet (hitch was on backorder, just got it) but I feel it'll do alright considering what I tow. It gets better mileage too.
great video Andre/Mr.Truck agreed the gauge cluster should tell you what gear your in at any time and the optional gauges could use numerals , that would not be a deal breaker for me, Andre you might find with that OBD tool TFL has you can get the gear indicator to show up possibly, lots of the European cars do it by scrolling to the menus to find it and option indicate it, i know this is a fleet vehicle from Nissan, awesome video and Titan5.6 V8 has the best engine note 🔥
Ur telling me you wouldn’t buy a vehicle because some of the gauges didn’t have numbers. If that’s true you haven’t bought a new car in the last 20 years
Mr truck was in his own way hooking up the chains. I didn't see a big issue there. The issue I had was on the downhill both trucks could have down shifted one more time and not redlined the engine.
Nissan deserves a lot of credit for persevering in the full-size truck market. Their truck is on a par of features and performance with Ford, GM, and Ram. I love the 5.6L V8. 400 HP, 413 lb*ft of torque makes it competitive with any V8 out there. It's too bad that the 5.0L V8 Cummins diesel didn't catch on.
The V8 Cummins was not a good motor. Many issues which you can discover on the forums. Nissan and Cummins support is dying fast. For the engine weight, it was under-powered and a fuel guzzler. The I6 6.7L beats it in all categories including fuel efficiency.
That 5.0 Cummins was garbage is why, the fords will smoke the titan as well
@@freedomisntfree_44 i would take titan over F150 in any configuration. I was financially able to choose which truck to get and Titan XD was on top of my list.
Diesel had problems that Cummins was unwilling to fix.
@@zelenizub2036 I gotta use mine on the farm so Ford for me.
My 2022 Nissan owners manual says that the frontier pro 4X is rated at 6270 lb towing, so technically you were overloaded on the frontier. It did a phenomenal job!
I was gonna comment the same thing, luckily trailer wasn't too wide. That is impressive
yeah my 2023 says my towing is 6270 too minus 220 pounds. Probably cause my factory side steps and the light bar.
If I was in the market for a mid-size, I think the frontier would be my pick. v6, no turbos and 9speed. Not a fan of the turbo engines and the Tacoma seems underwhelming.
really it is a good truck, and you probably would want it over the Tacoma for a bit of more power, and it is not a bad truck at reliability, however, if you are the type of person that would want to keep that particular truck forever, go Toyota, it is by far the best at reliability, and it is approximately the same base price, but the Nissans are not that bad, so it is really up to you to decide
Frontier is a main pick of mine as I will be replacing my truck within the year. Looks, V6, better driver side seating position rear disk brakes, better infotainment.
if you pay attention to the ike gauntlet test on both the tacoma and the frontier, the frontier required even more rpms to pull the same weight
Tacoma V6 and get the aftermarket KD MAX tune. World of difference. It now drives as it should drive from the factory. No difference in MPG’s.
Same here.
Man Nissans 5.6 is extreme underrated. Powerful and sounds amazing
The one thing I like about both trucks....the tail lights. Both have depth and draw the eye towards them.
I have a frontier and the tail lights are definitely my favorite exterior thing. Looks so dope in person
@@lothegreat1788Have Ya Seen the Vids @ "The United Spot" ? , Peace✌.
How about a real mid-size tow challenge with the Ranger, Taco, Colorado, and Ridgeline. It would be a fun comparison with the new Frontier.
Definitely think this would be a good idea. I’d like to get a truck in the next year and am seriously considering the frontier.
I’m not even a Ford fan, but we already know the Ford would tow the best with the twin turbos, and the Tacoma would do the worse.
@@Toe_Knee_69 until the crankcase fills up with fuel and the turbos go boom
The Ridgeline does not tow well IMO. I had a 2019 AWD. 3000 pounds is all I felt it could comfortably tow. The transmission temps would climb alarmingly high when towing 3000 pounds and it would shift quite a bit.
The Ridgeline is just “playing truck”.
Nissan deserves more credit, im a Chevy guy who drives a NISSAN. I'll admit it had some growing pains, probably built on a Friday, but its a solid TRUCK and for what u get dollar wise, leather loaded around view monitor, you can't beat it.
I’m a Chevy guy and Toyota guy. my first truck was a 2003 supercharged Tacoma beast of a truck. My second truck was a 2011 Silverado Z 71. I’ve had many trucks throughout the years Toyota and Chevy. Currently own A Chevy 2500 and a frontier. The new Tacomas are shit. I’ve had 4, a 2017, a 2019, and 2 2023 pros. This Frontier pro 4x premium is a better truck.
One of our parts guys at the Chevy dealership I work at bought a Pro-4X Titan after the transmission in his Silverado blew, the Titan is definitely an underrated truck
Chances are he has bad credit
The torture test I used to see for the titans really caught my attention. They would purposely drive it at an angle and even directly into a curb. You would see the truck bounce and jolt but still drive away.I’m sure folks figured we can make a vehicle extremely strong but the squishies inside are the limit.I have a friend who always raves about Rams safety ratings which for me if your not an idiot and don’t abuse your things everything should last. I’ve heard of rams steering being car like which I think should be really popular with all the old ladies. . . . Hahah no but I imagine it is easier and smoother but a little more delicate. The truck also doesn’t have the auto start stop function which I like.
Remember they didnt dwell on it, but this is a Pro4X, which is an offroad oriented trim. Pretty decent results for something not really set up for towing.
Personally owned 3 Titans just sold to purchase a 21 trd pro the Titan is way under appreciated the one i just sold had over 200k sold to a family member still running strong not one single problem not one oil leak my other one had 375,000 miles and was still running without any problems great trucks
Why the switch to the Tundra TRD pro then?
@@BrokeSpaceLaser i’ve always wanted a TRD pro Fox suspension BBS wheels and with it being the last of the V8s that’s why not interested in the new TwinTurbo six cylinder and for whatever reason the Tundra just has a way better resale value but like I said the titan is an outstanding truck would never speak badly of it out of the three that I have owned not one of them ever left me stranded or give me any problems I have owned plenty of Toyotas as well
@@gsrport1 Aw cool! I can completely understand that. I have heard pretty good things about the 22 tundra. But I understand wanting a V8 over the turbo V6. I was just curious as to your reason, but I get it, if I had the money I’d do the same, but I just bought a 22 Pro4x Frontier.
@@BrokeSpaceLaser another awesome truck congrats man 👍
The Titan is a good truck. I got to drive a family member’s 2005 Titan with the 5.6l engine and it felt so powerful. I love v8 engines!
I know a friend of mine has one and has well over 400k miles on his. Loves it
2019 Frontier vs 2022 Frontier; the goat 4.0L v6 vs the new 3.8L v6 !!!!!!!!!!!
I think the last 4.0 Frontier they tested was a 2014 Pro4x. Pulling a 5,700 lb boat up the Ike it was slower than the new Frontier with 6700 lbs.
The 4.0 was a great motor. Would be curious to see how the 4.0 would work with the 9 speed.
I just searched. They also tested a 2017 Pro4x with 6100 lbs on the Ike.
I understand this is about the Frontier but y’all continue to short change the Titan. Test it with the same 8100lbs you have been testing all the other half tons with.
Had two Frontier trucks loved them both! Good all around do anything vehicles.
Technically this is an Ike for the Titan and a super Ike for the Frontier isn’t it?
I honestly saw the new age titan as being the second best truck after the tundra and with the tundra loosing the V8 I can now say the Titan is my favorite truck now with ford being 3rd or 4th
Love my new Titan XD and my 18 Armada too. I just wish that i had option to get front bench seat in pro4x trim. For me that was a must, so i got SV. Other things i had to have in a truck: v8, NO statr stop garbage, NO cylinder deactivation and NO premium fuel ($0.50 per gallon for no real benefit, NO thanks.)
So refreshing not having start stop and other nanny's lighting up our dash isn't it! I love my 18' SL midnight edition. It's basic and such a solid truck. Seems like all other trucks have an overwhelming amount of nanny's...
We currently have an ‘18 frontier, we’ve since bought a travel trailer. The frontier pulls it, plenty of engine and transmission. Stability on the other hand, is in question.
Im currently debating between a Titan XD, and a ram 3/4 ton. I’ve test driven the big threes 3/4 tons, and the XD.
I've had my 2022 pro 4x in tactical green for just over two months now. It's been dead reliable and Nissan seems to have amazing build quality. I am stepping up from a 2018 civic hatch so I was obviously expecting an increase in my spending on gas, but I've gotta say the Frontier has impressed me with its fuel economy. The best I've had it, while driving is 8.4 L/100km, and after a trip is 9.0 L/100km. I have also been able to get a projected fuel range of up to 760km from a tank. All in all very impressed and can't wait for the many years ahead with my Frontier!
Those fuel economy and range numbers are almost mythical!
@Glitch rush just keeping positive chief. We are all aware of the issues that have plagued some of the other new vehicles that have been released lately. 👍
if U could, keep me/us informed, looking for my next new midsize this year to update from my 98 Dodge Dakota 5.2l since a new Dakota seems to be dead issue
this truck is so beautiful, when you sell this truck after 10 years, you will be so sad.
@Glitch rush exactly LOL 2 months
325,000 miles on my Titan and still runs perfectly. I will look to the Frontier as my next truck. Nissan makes one of the best motors you can buy. You might get a nicer and maybe little more roomier interior out of Canyon or Colorado but this Frontier will out last any domestic truck by decades!!
I love my 2021 Titan S Base Model! I’ve basically turned it into a P4X minus the locker. Oh and you can install a tekonsha p3 brake controller in the frontier in about 5-10 min so not a big deal and it’s a better controller than most OEM
I used to have a frontier. Loved it. Now i have a titan. Love it.
Ive towed a 1970 charger from Chicago to east TN, and it done great mines a green 22 frontier pro-x 2wd 5200 miles now.
Love my 2022 Tactical Green Frontier Pro4x
@@inforthewin3231 I love my Stelvio!
2020 Frontier Pro4x awesome old school look, with the new 3.8L v6, 9 speed sweet tranny, 5' bed, body graphics, roof rack, bilstein susp, leather seats, oh man an INSTANT classic when I got it. There are a few others out there but this one is mine! The midsize truck category has many fine entries in the field, and Nissan with the Frontier is a reliable, good looking, fun running, value proposition. Body on frame, a tough cookie, and a kick ass ride. Whats not to like?
Guys, if I were there I would want to high five both of u! Great job. Well done Nissan. Looks like they are making a comeback.
If i was gonna buy a midsize truck it would be the Frontier hands down.
I just bought a 2022 frontier, had a Tacoma for 6 years. I like the frontier better. It in my opinion has a better engine and transmission .I also like the feel and the way the frontier drives.great truck as far as I'm concerned. Would highly recommend.
When you're just maintaining 60 MPH and other traffic is blowing past you in the empty middle lane @16:30, that's your hint to GET OUT OF THE PASSING LANE.
I’ve said it before, but I would really love to see a comparison of the “old” Gen 2 Titan with the 7 speed vs the new Gen 2 Titan with the 9 speed (drag race and towing). Same with the Frontier, but the old 4.0 vs the new 3.8.
I think the 9 speed made the titan slower.
@@occckid123 The gears must be really spread out in the 9 speed. They had to gear down to a 3.69 to achieve similar results as the 7 speed with 2.93 gear ratio.
@@bwarren228 the gears are shorter but it's still slower than the 7spd. I believe the titan is almost 1 second slower than before to 60mph. I could be wrong!
@@occckid123 I’ve heard similar, but haven’t driven a 9 speed Titan before (I own a 7 speed). I still want to see it though, but I somehow doubt Nissan wants that comparison to be made.
@@occckid123 you are correct however these trucks are not built for 0-60. for example the duramax L5P 6 speeds are faster 0-60 than the L5P 10spds because less gears to run through, however the 10 speed is smoother, better for towing, more efficient, lower under drive and higher overdrive. Race a 10spd vs a 6spd from 60-100 with a trailer, the 10 speed will win every time. They are built for a purpose and 0-60 isn’t one of them.
That is pretty impressive for the Frontier. Of course probably would not want to do this daily but if there’s a need once in a while, that’s pretty darn good.
I like the new Frontier. They didn't go crazy with the grill and some other things like others have. It performed well in this towing test.
I pulled a heavy trailer over those same passes on I-70 with my 2020 with the 3.8 three times, including about two days before this. No issues.
Aftermarket brake controller takes 10 minutes to install, is better and cheaper. If you're not a fat ass, hooking up the chains is a non-issue.
dude thats funny😂
The one thing Nissan has nailed down is trucks. Dang they make good trucks. Well, we also have a 07 Sentra with 230k miles on it, which I know it’s not the norm because never had issues with the engine or CVT.
Nissan motors always have a nice sound to them!
Best part of the Frontier is not having a turbo.
This new frontier is a game changer. Always the cheaper choice in the midsize market but great value. Now up there in performance and looks as well. Maybe eat up more tacoma market. Absolutely more reliable than the GM and Ford competitors. Gladiator is a niche truck style. So it’s basically the frontier vs the Tacoma in the consumers eyes if looking for this midsize truck in USA 2022
Andre you guys should start keep track of the 35mph to 60mph times for all the tests. I feel like this is very important for people that tow understanding a hard acceleration on a steep on ramp and how the truck handles it.
That's a good idea, I watch the timer when we go up the on ramp
I like that new frontier
I paid 49k for my 21 pro4x Titan and it’s dealer price was only 52990 so prior to Covid this was the cheapest set of trucks to buy on the market but nicest interior outside of a ram or updated ford
Excellent, have been waiting for this to air. Gives me some peace of mind regarding towing heavier loads on occasion with the new Frontier platform. Max I’ll be towing is around 5K so will have a comfortable margin. Ordered a Frontier a couple weeks ago and looking forward to it when it arrives once built and shipped.
Out of all of your videos, the Ike’s are my favorite.
100%
X2 100%
They are fun and weather is always a factor.
The Titan is a handsome truck!
I have a 2006 Frontier and have no problem towing 6800 pounds takes all of it and ask for more
I’ve had my 2019 PX4, I got it back in June, it only had 7k miles on it. I love it, has been great so far
I always enjoy riding along with Andre and Mr. Truck.
Thanks, next time, bring donuts
I found in my Titans they didn’t have as much engine braking as you would expect but on the flip side, it seemed to rev up nearly as quickly as a Lexus LFA
Nissan makes underrated trucks
Still loving my 2021 Nissan Titan Pro4x.
I love this videos. I was in the market for the Frontier back when it first came out but once I got in it, it was quite small and cramped. So I ended up getting the Titan. Either way I love both trucks.
With the 5 inches they added to the length, they should have used some of it in the interior. Would love a midsize truck with midsize seating.
I had 2 frontier's and loved them both. I had hoped they would bring the deisel version because I use my truck to tow my campers. I finally went with a Colorado with the 2.8 DURAMAX and couldn't be happier.
Well, the towing capacity is exceeded on the frontier. The pro-4x towing capacity is only 6,300 lbs not 6,700 lbs 😳
Tacoma requires 5000rpms on the ike gauntlet and everyone complains and calls it weak (mr truck actually had to back off several times on the throttle to prevent going over speed)
but the frontiers running 6000 rpm here foot to the floor and ya’ll are like “what a stout little truck.”
not to mention that Titan needed 4000+ rpm too.
ya’ll are wack. 95% of you should be driving a honda ridgeline
That's a good observation. This isn't an easy job, it's easier to look at our views from a broad spectrum like you did here
Ridgeline's cater to clam's
Great review guys. Awesome details covered in this video. Finally, Tacoma have a true contender.
The gauntlet are the best videos yall do! Great job Andre and Mr Truck
"stopping the clock annnd now"... "I stopped the clock when you said stop". Same thing happened last time with Nathan.
I think they were being too critical. It looks like the truck hit the line right when he said stop the first time. They didn’t need to add the extra 2 two tenths lol!
Great review. I appreciate the detail you guys put into the videos. The Frontier is pretty impressive. 👍🏻
Thanks
The biggest problem Nissan has isn’t its style at least on the frontier that is or its reputation, it’s the marketing. There simply isn’t any. As a result, there is no mindset in the consumer as to what the frontier represents. It is by far a much more superior truck, than the Tacoma. And now that the Tacoma has given up the V6 and gone with much more complicated, twin, turbo four-cylinder, the Nissan frontier has a golden opportunity in terms of marketing with it normally aspirated V6. The advertisement opportunities are endless and priceless. I hope Nissan does something with this.
As a loyal Ford owner, I am now looking at the Frontier for a daily driver. The prices of half tons are insane and my brother just purchased a Pro4X Frontier and loves it. I keep my stuff a very long time and am going to start test driving the Frontier SV. The value is insane and would tie me over for nearly a decade until I needed to upgrade back to a 1/2 ton for towing, family etc. Your insight is spot on. I will never sell my old F-150 which is heavily modded or my equally old Mustang, but it's time for a new daily driver that's not 20 years old lol.
Utilitarian, basic NA V6, reasonable mpg and seems solidly built. The marketing just sucks. But that's good for pricing. Sub 40k for a 2wd SV Crew Cab long bed. That's fantastic when a base F-150 Supercrew STX 2wd 5.0 is literally $50k+ and doesn't even include a power seat....
I own a 2020 Nissan Altima SV with 60k miles and a 19 Honda Pilot with 30k miles, both vehicles have been amazing. I am seriously considering the Ridgeline or the Frontier to add to our fleet. This is a great video.
The Titan is a very underrated truck.
First of I like all your test videos, real world testing, not just some dude in shorts driving around the block and giving it a doug score. I bought the Frontier SV model with the convenience/tow package and wonder why Nissan didn’t include a brake controller either. I will have to buy a Prodigy brake controller since I plan on pulling a 3500 lb camper with it.
I previously owned a ‘09 Frontier since new and have no doubt I will keep my ‘22 for 10 years or more as well. I like the comfortable seats, the handling and ride and the heated seats and steering wheel. The thing I don’t like is Nissan deleted the cargo channels on the bottom of the bed, I used them all the time to strap down lumber to. No other manufacturer had these as far as I know. Also the control switches on the lower left side are too far down to see, if Nissan raised the display panel about 2 inches they could relocate the switches below the panel. It would be an even better truck!
👍 My kind of test. THANK YOU
Ahhh Mr. Truck we've missed you and Andre together.
Thank you, How do we save the Titan, It came out before the full size Tundra, but can't keep up. Think about how many car brands there are? We need to keep the competition at peak. Save the Titan.
@@MrTruckTV You're right! the Titan is the most underrated and underappreciated truck out there.
@@MrTruckTV You save the Titan by doing more vides with the Titan XD. The fans want to see Ike testing with Titan XD!!!
@@putmeincoach7663 I haven't seen an XD in the media fleet for over a year. Don't know how we'd get one
I have no regrets purchasing a 2022 Nissan Frontier as I came from a 2018 Colorado that absolutely sucked, which made me temporary go over to a 2019 Nissan Frontier for a couple of years till the 2022 Frontier came out. My only gripe about the New Frontier is it still turns wider than a full size truck.
Since Toyota decided to drop the V8 from the Tundra, my next truck will be a Titan.
Yep. I will not own a full size truck without a V8.
Unless that's very soon, I think it will be a used Titan, as Nissan has already discontinued the NV vans (which share the chassis with the Titan XD) and it appears that Nissan is discontinuing the Titan and Titan XD.
i enjoy the nissan love recently.
If you had to choose ANY model of Nissan Titan OR Frontier, in any high-altitude location such as Colorado, Montana, Alberta, British Columbia, Alaska, Yukon or super-cold winter area such Wisconsin, Minnesota, Vermont, Michigan, Upstate New York, then a used Titan XD or the Latest 2022 Titan SHOULD be your choice.
If you are coastal California, Washington state, Oregon, Vancouver, BC, or in a summer hot New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Florida then the Nissan Frontier is the better choice due to the smaller size and better newer engine technology saving you fuel/maintenance costs.
ALWAYS buy a new Nissan truck on extended financing because you tend to get enough deals on them compared to Ford, GMC, Chevy or Toyota that the money you save paying out monthly on extended 72 month financing still leaves you enough left over monthly that fuel and weekend trips are far more affordable than the other trucks. It basically means you get MORE out of your truck on the weekends and daily driving meaning more PERSONAL FUN TIME out of the Nissan trucks than the others because you SAVE more money per month which can be put towards your weekend fun camping/fishing/4x4 time.
When you compare trucks between the major manufacturers, you MUST categorize yourself into a specific financial band BALANCING the looks, fuel costs, maintenance costs, resale value, hauling/towing ability and 4x4/off-road capability versus your monthly payments or outright cash outlay.
If you WANT a mainstream U.S. truck, then any of the three North American majors will do for mid-size, full size or heavy duty trucks. They are ALL powerful, tow and haul a lot and financing is not outrageous. If you WANT high resale value, a Toyota Tundra/Tacoma is hard to beat but damn expensive on a monthly payments basis.
If you are younger and just started in your trades career and need a weekend warrior truck AND a daily tool/gear hauler at a good affordable monthly payment, a Nissan Frontier looks good and so does a Chevy Colorado ZR2! If you want PURE high-end interior comfort AND good hauling/towing ability then the RAM 1500 Limited is Numero Uno right now! It's expensive
but it sure has near-Mercedes Benz level of interior luxury and technological creature comforts. For the BIG toy-hauler and fifth wheel trailer haulers, then the Ford F-450 Dually is the hands-down the winner on the longevity/maintenance-free count due to its commercial-class axles and frame rail construction.
The best all-round full size hauler would be a Ford F150 Powerboost which does everything good but not totally spectacularly class leading. The price is right when you get a mid-optioned FX4 or Tremor version around $55,000 USD or under. It best balances interior comfort, hauling ability and off-road use in one truck at a decent price. That 7200 Watt on-board generator also DOES make a BIG difference for your worksite and campsite tools/electronics charging and powering.
If you need a 7 passenger family hauler, I actually suggest a Stellantis/Chrysler Grand Voyager well-optioned mini-van which has LUXURY AND person-carrying capacity that is easy to get in and out of AND can take your family to the local parks and beaches in sheer comfort!
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If the armada gets the 9 speed you guys need to retest with the previous weights on the old armada Ike!
Dodge, we need a Dakota with a V8 again. I have an 02 with the 5.9, just waiting for them come out with a new one! That gladiator is selling really well, that platform would suit the Dakotas return. 👀
Great truck, i do have 2019 titan sv 4x4 and I loved, i hope they keep the v8 in the future and don't make the same mistakes that tundra with not v8...
I understand about the tundra not keeping the V8 i see what yoy are saying. But with or without the V8 the tundra in Any configuration from 2022 forward will outperform and outlast any truck from nissan.
@@derakbell8143 Nope. Cannot defy physics of a forced induction engine. Those turbos will fail.
@@putmeincoach7663 but that drivetrain has been around since 2015.
Those turbos will fail eventually. But there are multiple vehicles in the lexus line with the same engine with high 200k and one over 320k with a failure at 321k. So ues they will eventually fail but most likely you won't own the vehicle when the mileage is that high most Americans don't. And yes as much as I would love for the tundra to keep the 5.7 or bring over the lexus 5.0 thos is the way the market is going unfortunately. Nissan too will have to find an alternative to their V8 engine. And it will more than likely be a V6 twin turbo or supercharged
With that being said there is no life where I would choose the titan over the tundra. Ever...
@@derakbell8143 Oh really? Why don't you google Lexus LS500 engine oil consumption.
@@derakbell8143 True that a forced induction engines will outperform a NA one. However, that’s the issue that I have with the new Tundra. That’s all they’re offering, a forced induction engine. They’re taking away our choices, and if I wanted a forced induction engine, I’d just turbo a V8.
Good to see Mr Truck again :o) All the best for the new year Y'all.
Thanks, great to be seen, still trying to get use to winter. Happy a great year.
There's no such thing as "narrow wheelbase": wheelbase is the distance between the axles, so if it's not very long it's "short", not "narrow". The term you needed was "track": that's the lateral distance between tire contact patch centres.
Hell yes, hell yes, hell yes... I have been waiting for a comparison like this. You rock TFL!
I can understand docking points for the safety chain hook being so hard to get to. I can also understand docking for not having a brake controller. But I don't agree with docking cause it didn't grow. It's supposed to be midsize,not full sized.
I don't understand the mid size trucks not having a built in brake controler when you get one in a Ford Mavrick the tows 4k
Because most mid sizes are old trucks, Maverick is trully new.
With the way gas prices are going id say midsize. The midsizers can tow what the old 2005 V8’s could tow all while getting better MPG. The midsizers are pretty comfortable places to be in unless your big/tall/or overweight.
I like the wide tires on this pro4x Frontier. Makes the truck look beefier.
Yes, it has a cool stance
Home run with this truck. I really think this is the mid size leader at the moment. Not fancy, but a great option for the market. The powertrain is the gem.
Nissan or Toyota, both are quality products. It's a matter of personal choice! Can't go wrong with either one!
That’s a fact
I've been looking at the Maverick for my needs. I don't off road or tow. But I need the bed for trips to Lowes and taking my mower over to mow my daughter's yard. I need a truck small and low enough for my mother to get in and out. The Maverick would be perfect, but it's brand new. If I could get a two wheel drive Frontier without a lift package, that would be great.
You know the Maverick is like the Model-T, they are cheap and everyone will have one. That's the magic sauce, cheap and great MPG
@@MrTruckTV GET US TITAN XD TOWING COVERAGE!!!! THE FANS WANT IT!!!
You can get a two wheel drive frontier without the "lift package".
I have a 2019 Frontier Pro4x and love it! Solid, reliable truck that actually drives like a truck! It’s a gas hog but it’s a truck, if I wanted gas mileage I’d have bought a Prius. Great 4 wheel drive capability, won’t get stuck, lol. Just the best truck on the market for my needs. Wouldn’t trade her for anything!
It doesn't need to be bigger, midsized are already big enough. If you need bugger go full sized.
Still have compact seating though.
Really considering a frontier. Looking between that and the ranger, but I may hold out until I see the 2023 models, I hear lots of great things coming
I traded my 19 ranger for a 2022 pathfinder. Get the frontier. The v6 and the tech and looks alone are better than the ranger. The current ranger just felt so cheap to me. I’m loving my pathfinder and I loved the ranger, but I would go with the frontier. Unless like you said your wanna see the new ranger will look like
@@nicknadeau5538 thanks for the advice! I think I'll see what the 2023 ranger has to offer, but the frontier looks like a serious contender
$50k for a Frontier? Fine, bring in the Chinese cars. These big companies are pieces of shcit charging these prices. I hope that they ALL go bankrupt.
Seems insane right? they were 30k USD not long ago, 10 year financing I guess? ludicrous
Literally why I started looking at full size
The average age of cars in the US has been going up, and surprise surprise looks like US dealerships are in for 2021 being the most money they've ever made in history. I don't understand, just don't buy a new car right now, people must be bored, spending 64k Canadian on a Frontier, IS INSANE, I should be working at a dealership selling cars, providing no service to the world but padding my condo portfolio in new Mexico.
I just realized that this was louder than the 2014 Nissan Frontier you tested years ago! Wow, Nissan went backwards!
I like it. Frontier looks like a stout little truck. With that, I've got to wonder if the suspension isn't a little stiff for off-roading. A little more flexible suspension would help off-road maneuvering but may not be as compliant with a heavy trailer. I don't think you buy a midsize though to pull 6000# all the time, so why not set-up the suspension for a little more movement.
It's great off road! Until you run into ground clearance issues. I've ordered a Koni 2½ inch lift kit from All Dogs Off Road.
Because when you aren't towing you have your dirt bike or other cargo I'm the back. Real pickup owners have to truck for a reason, to carry something back there!
The suspension is stiff on the older ones, and not even the Pro-4X versions. I had an SV and thought both the suspension and the steering were a little too stiff. But that said, you get used to it and then don’t give it much thought. My 2014 was such a beast it went anywhere and everywhere in just rear wheel drive. That was the most impressive feature to me. Had 4WD that was literally never needed, and I’m talking about miles and miles of driving in 8” snow (43 miles one way to get to work) on roads nobody else had driven. Also off road in sloppy mud and sand. Used rear drive only, and on stock tires, it went everywhere. It was just an unbelievable performing truck.
I have had 3 Nissan trucks and all were completely reliable. Over 200k miles on each and never had a trip top the shop.I don't really understand why they get so much hate especially from people who have never owned one. I have driven tacomas and they are really not great trucks power ride and uncomfortable seating position.
That titan sounds good lol
I know it'd be a lot if extra work but I'd love to see an extra run up and down the mountain the way most of us watching would really drive. Mainly by shifting gears manually up and down. It'd slow what the truck is truly capable of rather than what it's programmed to do. Most viewers here are smart enough to know the difference and it wouldn't confuse us. If anything it'd help us by showing proper towing tips rather than just hoping the manufacturer did it right. Add it in to the Super Ike maybe if not all test.
I’ve yet to understand the purpose of downhill brake applications. If your not using cruise then the truck doesn’t know what speed to try and maintain. It comes down to rolling resistance. So one please explain what I’m missing. Thanx.
Some transmissions look at brake applications, speed, throttle, etc. input to determine if the truck is speeding up even though the throttle is at 0% and the brake is being applied. Particularly when the transmission is in tow/haul mode the computer will downshift to increase engine braking and reduce the tendency of the truck to speed up downhill.
The cruise control doesn't factor in at all, but the transmission (and maybe engine) computer still can know you are trying to slow down or your are descending a hill. The IMU and help too.
@@Fix_It_Again_Tony Thanks. That’s what I thought but wasn’t 100% sure.
It’s a long range downhill performance test excluding the wheel brakes. If the tow vehicle is requiring many brake applications, you have a higher probability of overheating the wheel brakes, all other factors held constant.
Agree. I wish they would manually downshift so we'd know what the truck was capable of rather than what it's programmed to do. Most all of us would control the gears manually in that situation.
@@boduke9428 The truck would probably even downshift by itself if the cruise control is engaged - my Ford F53 chassis motorhome does.
I like the Frontiers looks a lot. I’d like to see a panoramic roof, a for lack of a better word “Raptor” version where Nissan puts a performance suspension and 33” tires. I’d also appreciate heated/cooled seats. I’d also like 8-way powered seats along with a power telescopic steering wheel etc.
I’m getting old…. Ok let’s face it, I’m old. I really appreciate all the luxury features on my Ford F-150 Platinum. I’d just like all the luxury packed into a mid size truck.
Well, I appreciate that
@@MrTruckTV lol…. If your like me…. Arthritic lower back and hands…. Well it’s darn nice to have the heated adjustable seats and heated steering wheel. I have a love hate relationship with leather. Love it for ease of maintenance.. hate it when I’m sweating like an old horse. So the cooled or vented seats are darn nice.
I don’t think many people can relate to men my age. When my grandfather (Ira Tidwell 1889-1982) started teaching me to shoot and drive, we had 4 trucks at the Ranch; 1949 Ford 1.5 ton flat bed truck, 1962 dodge 1500 step side long bed and a 1965 Chevy 1500 step side long bed and a a brand new 1968 Ford F-250. I drove the Chevy the most but when carrying larger loads of Hay or firewood, drive the 1949 Ford 4x4. The 1949 ( www.google.com/search?q=1949+ford.1.5+ton+truck&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#imgdii=5I6xcDQQkl7ysM&imgrc=j3popGIwWo3eYM) didn’t have synchronized gears and it had a lever on the floor that shifted from two wheel drive to four wheel drive and it also had another shifter that 1/2 the gear ratio of the transmission. It was a beast to drive. But a 5’ 3” 9 year old could do it lol.
I guess I’m just reminded of how far trucks have come. From my perspective, there isn’t a bad truck made today. Some don’t make any sense to me but that the beauty of our free nation. I think if I could afford one, I’d buy a 2023 GMC Sierra Denali with the diesel motor. Or the 2022 F-150 Platinum Hybrid or Diesel. Not sure which.
Drove an Ram Longhorn recently and that was probably the nicest cabin I’ve ever been in. But I don’t care for the exterior colors or hood /grill combinations.
I absolutely love TFL staff. The work you all put into being informative and entertaining is wonderful.
@@bret9741 Thanks for watching, I appreciate the massaging seats on high end full size trucks and SUV's. I've come to appreciate leather. I was an auto broker for AAA in my younger years and retired folks always wanted leather. They tell me leather is easier to slide in and out. Nobody wants to drag their ass
@@MrTruckTV lol. I hate old age but guess it’s better than dying young.
@@bret9741 I don't miss chasing wild women any more. But I could use less arthritis in my thumbs. It even hurts to write with a pen.
As a 2011 Frontier Pro4x owner in CO, I really wish Nissan had a factory tow pkg option with a brake controller. Even at a premium, I would rather have that installed and warranty then have U-Haul do it. And they are the other 3rd-party I could find.
Great to see Mr truck back !
Thanks, I appreciate that
Owned a 19 Tacoma. It was a good truck but a rough ride. It was like drving a brick. Upgraded too the 22 frontier pro4x about 4 months ago. Love it. It rides better. Tech is way better. Haven't towed with it yet (hitch was on backorder, just got it) but I feel it'll do alright considering what I tow. It gets better mileage too.
Have you towed yet? Also if soo, how much weight did you pull?
This video made me laugh. I have a silver FJ and am considering trading it in on a Frontier. Love the FJ, but so many miles on it.
Favorite truck from TFL Truck has been Big Green.
It escaped to Canada before the pandemic
@@MrTruckTV Steves severance pay. lol
I’ve seen a few of these and Andre always seems to add more words than necessary when signaling to stop the timer lol.
Dang the video drop while I'm finna start working!? I'm upset
great video Andre/Mr.Truck agreed the gauge cluster should tell you what gear your in at any time and the optional gauges could use numerals , that would not be a deal breaker for me, Andre you might find with that OBD tool TFL has you can get the gear indicator to show up possibly, lots of the European cars do it by scrolling to the menus to find it and option indicate it, i know this is a fleet vehicle from Nissan, awesome video and Titan5.6 V8 has the best engine note 🔥
Ur telling me you wouldn’t buy a vehicle because some of the gauges didn’t have numbers. If that’s true you haven’t bought a new car in the last 20 years
Mr truck was in his own way hooking up the chains. I didn't see a big issue there. The issue I had was on the downhill both trucks could have down shifted one more time and not redlined the engine.
In real life, you can always do that manually. I wish the truck would have come with a brake controller, though.
Do a Ike of Titan vs Titan XD
Using the same tow trailer and weight.