I MAX OUT The Maverick, Santa Cruz & Ridgeline, But Which One Wins The World's Toughest Towing Test?

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    The Honda Ridgeline is no longer the only crossover-based pickup on the scene - now we have the Hyundai Santa Cruz and Ford Maverick as well! But which one is best on the Ike Gauntlet, the World's Toughest Towing Test? Let's find out!
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    0:00 Intro
    0:39 Honda Ridgeline - Downhill
    7:01 Honda Ridgeline - Uphill
    10:52 Hyundai Santa Cruz - Downhill
    15:52 Hyundai Santa Cruz - Uphill
    19:52 Ford Maverick - Downhill
    25:03 Ford Maverick - Uphill
    28:01 Results & Verdict
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  • @TFLtruck
    @TFLtruck  2 года назад +32

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    • @Ornelas11B
      @Ornelas11B 2 года назад

      When you said Tommy’s gem was worth 4,000 pounds were you talking money?

    • @jaredtown8947
      @jaredtown8947 2 года назад

      Your intro music is the same as Off the Ranch by Matt Carriker (may have misspelled that)

    • @brennalynnn
      @brennalynnn 2 года назад

      I thought u said up to .70?

    • @tritchie6272
      @tritchie6272 2 года назад

      @@Ornelas11B I believe they were talking weight.

  • @nilsjohansson9739
    @nilsjohansson9739 2 года назад +252

    Regardless of the vehicle towing it, that's probably the fastest the Citroen has ever gone!

    • @Dirtyharry70585
      @Dirtyharry70585 2 года назад +28

      and longest without a break down.

    • @jamesd6801
      @jamesd6801 2 года назад +2

      At least in the mountains!

    • @TheHelado36
      @TheHelado36 2 года назад +3

      Still a better car than the others ! 😁

    • @abee3515
      @abee3515 2 года назад +1

      geneally in a 2cv but they build some others...

    • @Peter-cj2ml
      @Peter-cj2ml Год назад

      lol

  • @C-Henry
    @C-Henry 2 года назад +386

    Can we just give these guys a round of applause for the having most unique payload ever for a tow/haul test?

    • @miamisasquatch
      @miamisasquatch 2 года назад +8

      I laughed as soon as I saw the 2CV! Took me back to my childhood playing Need for Speed 2.

    • @richardhouvener6423
      @richardhouvener6423 2 года назад +3

      @@miamisasquatch I drove one in France in the 60s. It was a blast!

    • @mistert1097
      @mistert1097 Год назад

      @@richardhouvener6423 are you referring to the 60’s

    • @jeffreyblanton9877
      @jeffreyblanton9877 Год назад +5

      I would like to see these same vehicles towing 5 years from now. My money is on the Honda.

  • @michaelwalus2154
    @michaelwalus2154 2 года назад +34

    Just FYI, on the sound test in the Maverick you guys had the sun roof curtain open. The other trucks were closed That will affect the sound level in a vehicle.

  • @racinglightning01
    @racinglightning01 2 года назад +164

    It's a really great comparison. Although the Ridgeline is a little larger than the other two, they're really catered to the same sort of customer. The person that doesn't necessarily want a truck, but wants more utility than a SUV.

    • @markspence3750
      @markspence3750 2 года назад +3

      EXACTLY!

    • @mikenormandy9250
      @mikenormandy9250 2 года назад +34

      The Ridgeline is DEF a mid-size truck. Much more than the other two are Trucks....The Ridgeline is probably more truck than MOST truck people need! Just bc it's not a Body On Frame vehicle....It gets so much shit, when most truck people crawl the mall or get groceries.... The Ridgeline can do practically everything a mid-size truck can do.....And I have to say, It is the most comfortable ride in its' class. The Lockable Trunk in the truck bed IS A GAME CHANGER...My Father's 2006 Ridgeline, the first model year ever made, is more comfortable of a ride then my 2020 Toyota Tacoma SR5 V6 4X4.....

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 года назад +10

      @@mikenormandy9250 The Ridgeline FWD is a class 1 truck together with Tacoma, Ranger etc. and the Ridgeline AWD actually falls into class 2a together with F-150!

    • @mikenormandy9250
      @mikenormandy9250 2 года назад +4

      @@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Ummm.No the Ridgeline is a mid-size truck...NOT a half ton or Full-size...And How would a FWD Ridgeline compare to a 4X4 Tacoma???
      Ridgeline AWD competes with the 4x4 Ranger and Tacoma...You have some things backwards...LOL

    • @imnotusingmyrealname4566
      @imnotusingmyrealname4566 2 года назад +10

      @@mikenormandy9250 It's considered a half-ton as the GVM is 6019 lbs. Half-tons are from 6001-8000 lbs GVM. The Tacoma has a GVM of only 5600 lbs. Weird how low that is. The Hilux has a GVM of 6725 lbs.

  • @macgybel7951
    @macgybel7951 2 года назад +108

    Well, the real winner of the World’s Towing Contest is TFL - your videos are the only ones that manage to pull me out of bed every day… true story! ;-)

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  2 года назад +6

      Thank you for watching and your kind words!

    • @markspence3750
      @markspence3750 2 года назад

      WORD!

    • @williammiller9813
      @williammiller9813 2 года назад

      I'm not a fan of fan people just gotta go with the info

  • @BigGroupHug
    @BigGroupHug 2 года назад +67

    It boggles my mind that y'all don't use a OBD data logger to make sure you get the same data regardless of guage cluster style.
    Also get to see "power demand" according to the ECM among other figures.
    Put it on a tablet, you can export rhe video from the tablet as an overlay.

    • @ocrapo9327
      @ocrapo9327 Год назад

      Tell me your car backfires without telling me.

  • @nismomike3182
    @nismomike3182 2 года назад +18

    "That VTEC kicked in yo!"

  • @davidkutschke54
    @davidkutschke54 2 года назад +17

    15:16 nice to see a big empty pick up truck doing 70+ mph in a construction zone probably upset that this little Santa Cruz is doing more truck stuff than it.

  • @Kristian_Saile
    @Kristian_Saile 2 года назад +169

    The Maverick in XLT trim with the 4K package would Gabe performed the same and been done in sub 30k which I feel makes it so much more of a better value. Seems like the lower trim level Mavericks are the sweet spot and where it really excels as a value proposition. A high 30k Maverick kind of defeats the purpose?

    • @animetodamaximum
      @animetodamaximum 2 года назад +2

      Yeah I agree, mine was 31 and it is rather loaded from what I can see. XLT FX4 w Lux. I do not see an FX4 badge on that "maxed out" Maverick either so that leads me to believe it has standard all season tires on it.

    • @christopherhamilton5557
      @christopherhamilton5557 2 года назад +12

      I agree, at that price, I would get a Ranger. Maybe? Car market is freakin whack right now.

    • @animetodamaximum
      @animetodamaximum 2 года назад +6

      @@christopherhamilton5557 I wanted to get something used but every car was such bad value used. So I ordered one waited and picked it up at MSRP. 31 isn’t bad for a new car let alone a truck/crossover but 37 is in big bronco territory.

    • @jakes5530
      @jakes5530 2 года назад +22

      Nah fully loaded the Maverick is $37k, to get similar tech and interior features in the Ranger, you’d be looking at $45k. Apples to oranges… the Maverick is still significantly cheaper when similarly equipped.

    • @TheRanscat
      @TheRanscat 2 года назад +14

      I got mine with xl 4k towing awd 2.0 spray in bedliner Ford copilot 360 (includes power side mirrors for the xl) "full size" spare rear window and two USB ports and 120v outlet in the back seat for 27k I could have saved a good 1.5k if I saved on options.

  • @andrewsbbq
    @andrewsbbq 2 года назад +53

    Sport mode is likely what should be used when towing with the Ridgeline and Santa Cruz. Holds gears, firmer shifts, if it has any active aero it likely disables it.

    • @eastonreid
      @eastonreid 2 года назад +9

      we have a 2016 pilot and when we tow with it sport mode is what we use and it behaves similarly to a tow/haul mode

  • @nemavezee
    @nemavezee 2 года назад +23

    Ridgeline would toe much better with transmission in sport mode. Would like to see if that helps.

  • @rightlanehog3151
    @rightlanehog3151 2 года назад +41

    Andre, This truly is a world first for TFL. Yes, this is the first time in world history the Ridgeline has been called a 'benchmark'.

    • @beartankoperator7950
      @beartankoperator7950 2 года назад +1

      Ha that was good

    • @JoseVargas-mn1ek
      @JoseVargas-mn1ek 2 года назад +8

      Honda v6 plus 9 speed is a tried and true drievtrain. Sounds like a benchmark to me.

  • @aaronbehindbars
    @aaronbehindbars 2 года назад +68

    The Ridgeline would have held it's speed better down the mountain in S mode. I'd say it went pretty well for having no turbos which puts it at a bigger disadvantage at high elevation.

    • @zerog2000
      @zerog2000 2 года назад +23

      I tow a 4400 lb travel trailer with a 2020 Ridgeline and it does tow better in S, especially in hilly areas. S mode wants to hold shifts longer which is better for up & down grades.

    • @aaronchristianson
      @aaronchristianson Год назад +3

      I tow a 28 foot camper that’s at the Ridgeline’s max rating. I turn off eco mode and drive in Sport mode. No issues.

    • @christianbenedict5136
      @christianbenedict5136 Год назад +1

      Totally agree

    • @zhencaizan6663
      @zhencaizan6663 Год назад +1

      中文翻译

    • @georgea6403
      @georgea6403 7 месяцев назад

      @@zerog2000do you use eco when on level roads?

  • @andrewwhite1305
    @andrewwhite1305 2 года назад +25

    I love the wing mirror cams that become visible when the turn signal is activated, on that Santa Cruz

    • @christopherhamilton5557
      @christopherhamilton5557 2 года назад +3

      Hey that really was pretty cool! Nice touch!

    • @desertfresh3740
      @desertfresh3740 2 года назад

      I've driven cars with this and *despise* them. But to each their own.

  • @shitloveaduck
    @shitloveaduck 2 года назад +4

    Hey Andrey!!!! Very nice having Nathan do all the work with the phone for timing, and testing the audio himself as well. VERY good change!! I really was waiting for this video!!! The results were mostly as expected. The Santa Cruz was definitely a surprise as quiet as it was!!!

  • @dantheman4life
    @dantheman4life 2 года назад +28

    You guys always come through for us. Thanks for all you do and have a happy holiday guys!

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  2 года назад +3

      Thank you for watching and the kind words! Happy Holidays!

    • @freedomisntfree_44
      @freedomisntfree_44 2 года назад +2

      Merry Christmas

  • @shitloveaduck
    @shitloveaduck 2 года назад +8

    Thanks Nathan!! “Little Trucks or Little Pickups. Perfect!! Hahaha. I’m a rigid person sometimes, sorry about the crappy comments. They are little of a unique class of course. Little trucks!! I have one now!! A 2.0 AWD XLT with basically every option including the tow package, FX4, Sunroof, Luxury package, even the hard folding tonneau cover. It is quite impressive for a little truck. You would never be able to pull 4,000 lbs at 70+ mph in hilly terrain with the previous little trucks. I have towed just over 3600 lbs in 50 mph winds and hilly terrain (foothills of the mountains here in Alberta) and am impressed! I had a Ridgeline and wanted smaller still for when I go to the city, mostly because I can. I traded the Ridgeline I bought for $53,000 CAD before tax, I received a cheque for $11,000 CAD and a Maverick! Since the Ridgeline was already tax paid,mi didn’t have to pay taxes on the new truck!! Bonus! I loved the comfort of the Ridgeline, but am surprised by the comfort of the Maverick!! The Ridgeline is definitely better in almost every single aspect, of course, but I’m very happy with the Maverick. The Ridgeline’s biggest issue is the very high torque band. It’s definitely a nice truck though. Mine was levelled and riding on slightly larger and much more aggressive Falcons on the truck. It looked pretty nice! I will leave the Maverick stock.

  • @EGGINFOOLS
    @EGGINFOOLS 2 года назад +9

    The Santa cruz also had the camera mirrors for the turn signals. I liked that.

    • @palebeachbum
      @palebeachbum 2 года назад +6

      Yeah that Santa Cruz costs more because you're getting more. It's a more premium vehicle than the Maverick. More features, better seats, better ride.

  • @dean_carries5940
    @dean_carries5940 2 года назад +15

    "V-tech kicked in yo!!" 🤣😂🤣😂🤣

  • @sergiosolis4538
    @sergiosolis4538 2 года назад +6

    For years the Ridgeline has been criticized for not being a "real truck" right along with the El Camino and the Ranchero. The question will be if the Santa Cruz and the Maverick will share in the criticism, since they're comparing themselves to the Ridgeline? Keep up the great work guys. 👍

    • @marklion315
      @marklion315 Год назад +2

      @J. Dns Ridgeline was always marketed as mid size, it competes well against Tacoma trim for trim on road ofcourse.

    • @plmn93
      @plmn93 Месяц назад +1

      The Maverick is what people expect in a unibody truck. Cheap, economical, and still looks like a truck. That's why it's been so successful while the Ridgeline has been a sales dud for nearly 20 years now.

  • @Parker53151
    @Parker53151 2 года назад +20

    Towing a 2CV on a trailer is a stroke of genius. Well done, gentlemen.

    • @TFLtruck
      @TFLtruck  2 года назад +8

      Who would have thought that you can tow a car with a compact pickup truck!

  • @Whalerguy
    @Whalerguy 2 года назад +32

    I finally got my Maverick in and I have to say so far I'm very happy with it. I haven't had a chance to tow with it yet but having the brake controller built in makes a huge difference IMHO as you don't have something bolted to the dash every day for the times you want to tow. I absolutely love the placement of the receiver as well that is worth a lot to me.

    • @joeypts
      @joeypts 2 года назад

      Thinking of getting one myself. Can I ask if you still like it and if you’d recommend?

    • @Whalerguy
      @Whalerguy 2 года назад +2

      @@joeypts I do. We have both a gas and hybrid and both are excellent. The hybrid gets crazy good mileage.

    • @stephenzerfas5307
      @stephenzerfas5307 3 месяца назад +1

      I totally agree on the TBC. Having the hitch from the factory, also great. Less brake applications are going to reduce heat and wear. Saving over $4k is a lot to me. Tow/haul mode. Enjoy your Maverick.

  • @saltyspades7493
    @saltyspades7493 2 года назад +4

    this hill is definitely a good test. can't wait to see the winter tests when the snow drops!

  • @crimsonzorro
    @crimsonzorro 2 года назад +4

    Thanks for the Great Content!
    Nathan crushed that Sinclair Ad Read! Nice job dude.

  • @marks6072
    @marks6072 2 года назад +6

    I like the way you guys are not afraid to stir-fry a few transmissions during your road tests!!!

  • @DavidPopowich
    @DavidPopowich 2 года назад +21

    Love my 2017 Ridgeline! Great ride, good towing and cargo capacity. Ticks all the boxes for me. And much roomier than the other two.

  • @cesarpalmos8235
    @cesarpalmos8235 2 года назад +14

    Id take the ford (not that trim) because you can get the XLT with Fx4, 4k tow package, Turbo 2.0L Ecoboost with a Sunroof and gets better MPG (unloaded) than the Santa Cruz for $29,279. That's how I optioned mine.

    • @jammcguire1276
      @jammcguire1276 5 месяцев назад

      Where are u getting them for that price?

    • @cesarpalmos8235
      @cesarpalmos8235 5 месяцев назад

      @@jammcguire1276 You can't get that price anymore. The same truck today is 34k. That price was at the launch of the Maverick, when the base model was $19,995. I regret not going through with my order. The dealerships are still marking up these trucks.

  • @JohnConnor636
    @JohnConnor636 2 года назад +8

    That Ford was getting pretty hot near the end.

  • @gotchagoing8843
    @gotchagoing8843 2 года назад +66

    I love the Nathan and Andre show...always full of good info, and some good humor to boot. My pick is the Maverick-hands down. If I wanted a 'car like' ride, I would have owned a car. But I love trucks, and I am waiting on a build date for MY Maverick Lariat/max tow/FX4. AND, it's the same color as the test vehicle, Red Hot Pepper. Hell yeah...thank you tfl.

    • @bechtoea
      @bechtoea 2 года назад +5

      I understand your point but what I am curious about is, if the truck like ride and feel is what you are after, are you really the customer for the Maverick, or are you going to go get a Ranger anyway?

    • @billchesney8949
      @billchesney8949 2 года назад

      Better ask for an extra radiator to keep it cool

    • @boatdesigner12
      @boatdesigner12 2 года назад +2

      I own a Mexican Ford, never again. Remember, you vote with your wallet. So don't blame the politicians because you're the problem like i was. Only American made for me from now on. Hyundai or Honda. Screw Ford.

    • @andrewb1064
      @andrewb1064 2 года назад +1

      @@bechtoea right, I really don't understand the Maverick's appeal but apparently I am in the minority...

    • @gotchagoing8843
      @gotchagoing8843 2 года назад +11

      @@bechtoea I have a 2019 Lariat/FX4/max tow. For the past year, it has become increasingly difficult to get in and out of it. I have a spine that is held together with titanium rods, bolts/plates etc, and I have Parkinson's. I have driven the Maverick FX4, and found it to be easy for me to get in and out of, it's comfortable for me. So I ordered a Maverick/Lariat/Lariat lux pkg/max tow/FX4 back in October. Waiting on a build date now...

  • @fokuz02
    @fokuz02 2 года назад +11

    I'm still here happy I made my 2021 Ridgeline purchase. If I had to choose between these three, I would still choose my regular gas drinking J35 RL.

    • @lutomson3496
      @lutomson3496 2 года назад +3

      That engine will last the longest also

    • @jayw900
      @jayw900 4 месяца назад +2

      The maverick can also use 87

    • @rcr-zt4of
      @rcr-zt4of 3 месяца назад

      I bought a Ridgeline but the Santa Cruz and Maverick both use 87.

  • @smokeyj3983
    @smokeyj3983 2 года назад +2

    The video I've been waiting for. I wanted to see how the Maverick handled ike. Thanks guys.

  • @michaelcrouch4248
    @michaelcrouch4248 2 года назад +2

    Great reviews, and the only place where I enjoy the commercials, specifically the ones the TFL guys do 👍. Companies are missing the boat if they don’t use you guys to do commercials for them.

  • @chiemekaa
    @chiemekaa 2 года назад +5

    I'm looking forward to the R1T on the Ike to see if it lives up to the towing hype.

  • @njhampster
    @njhampster 2 года назад +4

    I like the Maverick but it's obvious the real winner here is the Honda Ridgeline. Larger, more powerful, and comparable in price.

  • @kennithandirsen7184
    @kennithandirsen7184 Год назад

    You guys rock! Very thorough and informative! Thanks!

  • @jaydoingstuffandthings6635
    @jaydoingstuffandthings6635 2 года назад +2

    I just picked my 2022 Maverick up, XLT with FX4 package and towing package for 27k and I LOVE IT! 32 mpg on the highway as well.

  • @mcrn12
    @mcrn12 2 года назад +21

    The temp rising like that on the Maverick is concerning.

    • @zacharyzoeller5214
      @zacharyzoeller5214 2 года назад +9

      Yeah right before it cut away at 27:37 it's close to Hot, note the outside temperature is 46F. If you are close to max towing on a hot day in the mountains I'd be worried.

    • @NWI_Steel
      @NWI_Steel 2 года назад +4

      I did not see that. Good catch!

    • @robertsn6584
      @robertsn6584 2 года назад +6

      Keep in mind it was only 40 degrees. Summer. It would of been real interesting

    • @EmotionalTree
      @EmotionalTree Год назад

      Or it is more honest than the other 2. They didn't have obd readings to confirm. I've had my own car read 225-230f going through Arizona at 110f but the gauge didn't move.

  • @miaatch1
    @miaatch1 2 года назад +7

    the maverick bumped up one more temp right after you said that. it was only 1 tick away from the red zone. That motor was working HARD!!!

  • @ianberry5562
    @ianberry5562 2 года назад

    Love this no bs data driven review process!

  • @jerryroberts7280
    @jerryroberts7280 2 года назад

    Another great video guys. Thanks for the test.

  • @MrFordguy73
    @MrFordguy73 2 года назад +14

    Been watching your Ike Gauntlet challenges for a while, I think you should time the acceleration from 35 to 60, that way it would be more objective as far as the acceleration goes

  • @Gene1969
    @Gene1969 2 года назад +70

    Great review guys! Both pickups are wonderful. It's going to boil down to personality. Which do you prefer? I pick the Maverick because its more truck like.

    • @ianberry5562
      @ianberry5562 2 года назад +4

      I’ve heard the Maverick described as a car like truck and the Santa Cruz as a truck like car couldn’t agree more.

    • @WhoThisGuy515
      @WhoThisGuy515 2 года назад +7

      I wouldn't mind a Maverick but i'd put a lot of highway miles on it so comfort is a big one for me. But I have a 3/4 Ford for truck stuff so I'd have a Cruz over the Maverick, plus i do like the styling of the Cruz more.

    • @robertsn6584
      @robertsn6584 2 года назад +7

      More truck like ??? You know the hyundai can tow 1000 pounds more right ???

    • @Gene1969
      @Gene1969 2 года назад +4

      @@robertsn6584 I was speaking about their personalities.

    • @tri3pleagent
      @tri3pleagent 2 года назад +6

      @@robertsn6584 yet it doesn't come with brake controllers from the factory 🧐

  • @freedomisntfree_44
    @freedomisntfree_44 2 года назад +1

    Good video once again🤙🏽Merry Christmas

  • @GIGABACHI
    @GIGABACHI 2 года назад +6

    That Maverick got TOO HOT 🔥 for comfort, IN THE MIDDLE OF WINTER. 😳
    Had the towing continued for any longer and it would have overheated.💩👎

  • @brad3139
    @brad3139 2 года назад +3

    16:17 those blinker gauges on the Santa Cruz are really clever!

  • @JohnLee-db9zt
    @JohnLee-db9zt 2 года назад +20

    Santa Cruz wins in my book. It has much more comfortable ride, lower noise, better fuel economy, and higher towing capacity. The Maverick was stressed to the max and nearly overheated in 46 degree weather.

    • @CanadianMax
      @CanadianMax 2 года назад +5

      Agreed.

    • @0HOON0
      @0HOON0 2 года назад +3

      Add a hot summer day to the mix and the Maverick would have been in limp mode trying to finish the climb.

    • @KyleEbright
      @KyleEbright 2 года назад +1

      It's also about $5,000 more than the maverick, which is important to note.

    • @martincadenas5839
      @martincadenas5839 2 года назад +1

      Long term reliability is probably ass

    • @JohnLee-db9zt
      @JohnLee-db9zt 2 года назад

      @@martincadenas5839 Your grasp of the English language is just 🤌🏻.

  • @lanceripplinger8352
    @lanceripplinger8352 2 года назад +1

    Merry Christmas TFL crew!

  • @fubarmedic4222
    @fubarmedic4222 2 года назад +1

    I think you will see more of these compact/midsize unibody trucks. More folks want one of these trucks for the bed for DIY reasons but want the space, fuel economy and ride of an suv.
    Imagine how much more huge the “truck” market will get if you had a choice between payload and ride vs off road and towing. 5k towing and 1500+ lbs of payload with an suv ride would be enough for 6/10 truck buyers. And the solid axle body on frame 4x4 would satisfy 4/10 needs. Perfect combo.

  • @Austin-iq7ds
    @Austin-iq7ds 2 года назад +11

    Very interesting the Maverick was pretty close it seems to getting a coolant overtemp warning/derating the power. If it’s 80 degrees, I see it getting to that zone…

    • @0HOON0
      @0HOON0 2 года назад +3

      Colorado had some scorching hot weather early in the summer last year.
      The Maverick would have overheated.

    • @isaac198428
      @isaac198428 2 года назад +2

      Yes the Maverick would definitely overheat in the Summer and having a turbo charger doesn't help. It's funny how they made a towing option yet very limited on what it can actually tow without getting all heated up.

  • @ChadHargis
    @ChadHargis 2 года назад +32

    The Ridgeline is wired for a brake controller. The wiring harness is included from the factory in the glove compartment. It's a simple hook up to any standard brake controller. Then you simply plug it into the connector found under the dash by the parking brake.

    • @markgosser9578
      @markgosser9578 2 года назад +3

      I want a stock brake controller and Ford has the best when it comes to towing. Honda knows zero when it comes to towing! Correct me if I’m wrong.

    • @specialopsdave
      @specialopsdave 2 года назад +11

      @@markgosser9578 They know enough to tow 4K pounds, at least

    • @doubled8247
      @doubled8247 2 года назад +13

      @@markgosser9578 Honda actually knows a lot about towing. It can actually tow what it says it can even with passengers. The owners manual is the only one that breaks down what you can tow with how much cargo and people in truck and Honda knows that 5,000 lbs towing at 13% tongue weight is 650lbs so that’s what their hitch is rated at.

    • @csh000
      @csh000 2 года назад +1

      @@doubled8247 finding tongue weight above 10% the towing rating is getting harder to find.
      10%-15% is the recommended tongue weight of travel trailers.

    • @zerog2000
      @zerog2000 2 года назад +2

      @@doubled8247 not sure where you got 650
      Ridgeline has Class 3 hitch, which is 600/6000
      Payload is around 1500 depending upon trim level, so unless you are limited by payload because you have loaded the cab and/or bed, 600 is supposed to be your max tongue. I tow a 4400 lb travel trailer with about 12-13 % tongue weight and it handles well, but putting any more on it would push it over limits. Yes it could handle more, but I won’t because I’d be cutting into my safety margins, which isn’t wise. (I have also looked at Both front & rear GAWR, and total GCVWR by pulling the rig over scales, which anyone getting close to max payload and/or tow rating should be doing. Supposedly Andre is CDL so he knows better.
      A bit surprised TFL team doesn’t actually do this, or capture actual metrics from OBD as others have mentioned. It’s just some light fun testing they are doing. Nothing scientific or objective here.

  • @jasonpaiva4793
    @jasonpaiva4793 2 года назад +3

    Well done 👏,
    The Honda Ridgeline was my first choice for a new vehicle but it doesn't have a Dedicated 2 speed transfer case. waiting on a 22 Tacoma TRD Off-Road

    • @Utubesuperstar
      @Utubesuperstar 2 года назад

      Buy a ranger it’s better than both

  • @waynekorzan2496
    @waynekorzan2496 2 года назад +1

    Great video! I am so glad to be able to watch your video's again. The Tommy ones forced me to find other sources for content. Thank you so much for taking him off the channel. Thanks again I love your stuff. I believe i will re subscribe. 😀

  • @03centgt_
    @03centgt_ 2 года назад +47

    I’d like to see these two get tested in the summer time when it’s hot. It appeared to me like the maverick got really close to getting hot right before the end of the hill. In 45’ weather it makes you wonder if it can really pull 4K pounds up a steep grade like the Ike. Love the videos guys. Keep up the great work!

    • @jakes5530
      @jakes5530 2 года назад +9

      Good point, I’d be interested to see that too

    • @awesomearizona-dino
      @awesomearizona-dino 2 года назад +5

      Good point Jorge, i think both will run hot towing in summer, AND will make far less power as well. My 2.3 Ranger makes great power in cool weather, in 105 degrees, i have to use 3/4 throttle much of the time.

    • @Whalerguy
      @Whalerguy 2 года назад +4

      I bet both run hot being boosted engines but I know the Mav is at the edge in cooling capacity as the tuners are having to swap out for a bigger intercooler to get any meaningful gains.

    • @TWX1138
      @TWX1138 2 года назад +8

      I'd also like to see transmission temperature monitoried. It's one thing to tow once, but it's quite another if the transmission's life is significantly shortened or if it requires significantly more regular service.
      It may be possible to monitor it with a sufficiently advanced CANBUS device, if the codes are known and the device can interpret. Otherwise it might require putting a sensor in place of a plug on the side of the transmission itself and recording the data the old fashioned way.

    • @TurboAdam
      @TurboAdam 2 года назад +1

      Ford recommended de-rating the towing on the F-150 due to the high altitude, did they recommend the same on the Maverick?

  • @sicilianr1
    @sicilianr1 2 года назад +4

    Already have a 7.3 so went with the Santa Cruz and so far I love it. Trans takes a bit to get used too, but for day to day driving when I don’t need to haul a skid steer or heavier… great little comfy truck. On the highway with cruise I get around 32-33mpg with it so I can’t complain to much over the 15-16 I get in the 7.3. I do think the limited model should have power folding mirrors, power passenger seat and memory seats too. Aside from that… throw an intake on and whoosh whoosh all the way home. 🤣😂

    • @Bob-tn2yz
      @Bob-tn2yz 2 года назад +1

      No power passenger seat on the limited kinda blows my mind

  • @westtrumpet7
    @westtrumpet7 2 года назад +1

    you guys should do an classic compact truck towing test! that would be sweet!! like 80s, 90s, and 00's compact pickups! :)

  • @jpaulparker
    @jpaulparker 2 года назад

    Very useful comparison test. Well done guys.

  • @syazwanchawan8779
    @syazwanchawan8779 2 года назад +5

    That Ridgeline looks so sick!

  • @x_ghost_x6612
    @x_ghost_x6612 2 года назад +20

    Test drove the Santa Cruz and i fell in love with it. This was an awesome test and I encourage anyone interested
    in any of these two vehicles to drive the Santa Cruz.

    • @W_T.F
      @W_T.F 2 года назад +3

      The Santa Cruz is definitely the most comfortable car I've ever driven.

  • @Eddie211979
    @Eddie211979 2 года назад

    Awesome video. You guys should do an old vs new ike gauntlet. test older trucks from the early 2000 and late 90's to see how they compare to the new trucks

  • @chrismatheny4957
    @chrismatheny4957 2 года назад +12

    Nice video comparing two of the hottest vehicles on the market right now. I have a question regarding the Santa Cruz. With the self leveling rear shocks, do you all drive around a bit to give the shocks a chance to level out or do you take your measurements for squat as soon as you hook up the trailer? I thought you had to drive a bit to give the self leveling shocks a chance to level out.
    I'm really looking forward to you getting to test a Santa Cruz model with the naturally aspirated 2.5 engine.

  • @Ammondude
    @Ammondude 2 года назад +5

    Another great TFL video!
    I've really enjoyed the Maverick content!

  • @AlexLepoutre
    @AlexLepoutre 2 года назад +20

    Great video! I love these sorts of comparisons.
    I do wonder if the Cruz would’ve performed even better, both uphill and downhill, if it was kept in Sport mode instead of Smart mode. I’ve noticed Sport keeps the revs hanging higher and longer, which really help with engine brake and torque when towing my camper.
    Also, was the squat measurement on the Cruz done before or after the self-leveling suspension had time to do its thing?

  • @rene7636
    @rene7636 2 года назад

    Very good test! Thanks guys.

  • @willywonka521
    @willywonka521 2 года назад +2

    I'd like to see ALOT more testing with base xl & xlt mavericks please

  • @vtsean5840
    @vtsean5840 2 года назад +7

    Thank you Andre and Nathan! I have been waiting for this and I think the Ridgeline was exactly the right comparison truck. The Santa Cruz and Maverick are basically giving us a vehicle in the same vein as the G1 Ridgeline Honda introduced in 2006. Except this time, lots of people are interested in this kind of vehicle. I agree with Nathan's call and I think the Hyundai's 1000 lbs. of extra capacity is important. I need 4500 lbs. towing myself so that 5K limit is key. Do you have any observations on how stable each truck felt (with the trailer) in normal driving?

    • @ocrapo9327
      @ocrapo9327 Год назад

      I'd get a bigger truck if you're towing the max all the time.

    • @vtsean5840
      @vtsean5840 Год назад +1

      @@ocrapo9327Towing all the time, I agree and I've had bigger trucks for that. But the 5000 lb. limit is great for bringing the right size boat back and forth to its seasonal mooring.

  • @williammorgan5032
    @williammorgan5032 2 года назад +16

    My new 2022 Ridgeline tows the best when I put the transmission in "S" mode. It holds great going downhill on the cruise control too.

    • @allenstuck2861
      @allenstuck2861 2 года назад +2

      Junk

    • @dalefrolander3583
      @dalefrolander3583 2 года назад +8

      @@allenstuck2861you think a Ford or Hyundai are more reliable than a Honda....smh.

    • @NWI_Steel
      @NWI_Steel 2 года назад

      What does your husband drive?

    • @eddiepeele9810
      @eddiepeele9810 Год назад

      What do you tow with it? Weight?

  • @F4izzle
    @F4izzle 2 года назад +1

    I regularly tow my 88 4Runner on a 16ft steel deck trailer with my 2020 Ridgeline and it does great.

  • @coltallman854
    @coltallman854 2 года назад +1

    So I've never requested anything.. I think something we all would love to see would you to floor it on the steepest part to see what the vehicle has left in it. Since the Honda was all out.. what about the Santa Cruz. And Maverick. I'm just getting to the Maverick part in this video. BUT would LOVE to see a small section of what the vehicle had left in it to give around the steeper part!

  • @jakes5530
    @jakes5530 2 года назад +28

    Christmas came early this year - well done gents. Of the 3 I’d pick the Maverick. Like Andre said, it’s way more trucky than the other two, and significantly cheaper when similarly equipped. With the SC, besides being worse at brake applications, Nathan’s thoughts on the dual clutch is another reason I’d be hesitant to choose it over the Maverick.

    • @gwpeoples
      @gwpeoples 2 года назад +4

      Well it's also a Ford. And I've owned Fords. If you want to take out a college loan amount of debt to own one... you can! I just hope you get to use it for the amount of time you can afford to pay back the loan. (Hint: In the 70,000+ miles you might see some high repair bills).

    • @Argedis
      @Argedis 2 года назад +2

      @@gwpeoples Yeah when they said the Maverick was $37k that blew my mind. Ford is laughing their way to the bank.

    • @lesterparker1594
      @lesterparker1594 2 года назад +18

      @@gwpeoples funny, I’ve owned 2 cheap fords, wife had 1. My 2 made it to 200k with zero issues. Wife’s made it to 150k and I had to replace the throttle body. Cost $40 and 15 minutes. My buddys 2020 trailboss just had the engine rebuilt. Give me Ford over GM any day

    • @ocrapo9327
      @ocrapo9327 2 года назад +1

      @@Argedis When they said the maverick was 19.9k that blew my mind. I am thanking ford all the way to my next destination.

    • @Argedis
      @Argedis 2 года назад +1

      @@ocrapo9327 Ford is charging a ridiculous $1,500 destination fee so it's not actually $20k.
      They are laughing at all the suckers calling it $20k because that's exactly what they wanted.
      Speedkar99 did a in depth mechanical review on the new Escape (which the Maverick is based on) and it's built EXTREMELY cheap... There's a reason why it's cheap

  • @darkpepsi
    @darkpepsi 2 года назад +3

    I notice the temperature was climbing more on the Maverick than the Santa Cruz or the Ridgeline (benchmark vehicle). Is it because the ford was towing at the max or it is mostly the nature of inclining any vehicle uphill in a steep grade?

  • @jg8263
    @jg8263 2 года назад +4

    You guys know the Honda has a plug under the dash for a normal aftermarket brake controller, and includes a wiring harness and fuse for that in the glove box. Just saying, you took the roundabout solution.

  • @nlpnt
    @nlpnt 2 года назад +2

    I've said before, with towing capacity "how often" is as important as "how much"? If I were pulling 4k in the mountains every day I'd want at least a fullsize 150(0) with the max towing options to have that margin of safety/durability. And if it's just a couple times a year I still say renting and putting the strain on U-Haul's transmission and brakes rather than your own is the most cost-effective option.

  • @bechtoea
    @bechtoea 2 года назад +4

    Ford brought out the Maverick with price being the primary objective. What they have found out, especially on the higher capability models and higher trims, is that people will throw Ranger or even F-150 money at a Maverick if it's worthy. I know, for example, I'd pay that $4000 more for Santa Cruz level refinement. So yeah, put the engine cover on it, make the seats more substantial, and charge me more. And I think they will. I do predict the 2 year Maverick refresh will have some more equipment for the XL at an entry price of around $23K, and with each model, the equipment and refinement will increase as will the prices.

  • @jonathanrose829
    @jonathanrose829 2 года назад +3

    All of these test are helpfull, But I want to see a 3500lb 22 foot travel trailer being towed up and down that road and see how well the maverick handles it. I have the fx4 awd on order and thats what I will be towing twice a year dog included

    • @bourbonrebel5515
      @bourbonrebel5515 2 года назад

      Should be fine even though you’ll be really close to the max

  • @TheSingleTrucker
    @TheSingleTrucker 2 года назад +1

    Maverick performed better with less cu. In. And towed better. Santa Cruz was comfortable and did not outperform a .5 ltr engine smaller. Great ep guys!

  • @j.f.562
    @j.f.562 5 месяцев назад

    Great videos guys, thank you!

  • @herewegoagain7403
    @herewegoagain7403 2 года назад +23

    27:37 wow the Maverick is getting a lot of heat soak. look at the coolant temp skyrocket... and require premium fuel? Santa Cruz def won

    • @ShersGarage
      @ShersGarage 2 года назад +6

      Maverick does not require premium fuel. You can use it for more power.

    • @hakkai153
      @hakkai153 2 года назад +3

      I'm all for the Maverick but I did notice that it started to heat up at the end there.

    • @oogleboogle123456789
      @oogleboogle123456789 2 года назад +4

      just curious but did the other two even have a gage to look at the temp with?

    • @kacyharper8142
      @kacyharper8142 2 года назад +4

      oogleboogle yes they did, both managed to stay below half way.

    • @W_T.F
      @W_T.F 2 года назад +7

      @@ShersGarage Read the manual for the Maverick. It recommends premium for towing heavy loads. It also warns you to listen for engine knock if using regular, which is just a way of saying it was designed for premium.

  • @marky1b
    @marky1b 2 года назад +4

    The Ridgeline is also pre-wired for a trailer brake controller.

  • @thekat9593
    @thekat9593 Год назад +1

    The “manscape” (elbow room) in the Ridgeline is a big advantage if you don’t like rubbing with each other bumping along the road of life.🎉🎉😂❤

  • @bertito43
    @bertito43 2 года назад +1

    Awesome comparison! Can you guys do the same but with the base models?

  • @mattgrov9068
    @mattgrov9068 2 года назад +5

    Congrats on the Sinclair sponsorship guys!

  • @mikefoehr235
    @mikefoehr235 2 года назад +4

    I would like to wish all at TFL A Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄 and a Happy New Year 🇨🇦🥂🍻🍺🍾

  • @anthonycastillo7625
    @anthonycastillo7625 3 месяца назад

    Thanks I have a 23 Santa Cruz and getting ready to tow a lightweight camper. I was curious about the performance before I had to get used to it in the road

  • @jolenebarrow1450
    @jolenebarrow1450 3 месяца назад

    Thank you! I bought my 23 Santa Cruz to tow my Jayco and this video proved I made the right decision!

  • @michaelburke9541
    @michaelburke9541 2 года назад +6

    Hey guys, great video!!!, A few ?s on the Santa Cruz that maybe you can help answer...
    1. Does Hyundai allow the use of a weight distribution hitch?
    2. Do they state the max allowable tounge weight with and without a WDH?
    3.Do they restrict the speed when towing on flat ground or uphill?
    4.Do they restrict mileage while towing?
    4.Did you use a scan guage or anything to monitor the xmission temps?

    • @fredkelly4649
      @fredkelly4649 Год назад

      No on the weight distribution hitch? They say the truck is to short base to use one i have the 2022 turbo and a 2023 forest river Rv i have checked it out .

  • @will41031
    @will41031 2 года назад +9

    Did anyone notice that at 27:35 the Ford coolant actually heated up 3 notches total? One away from Max temp. I remember the new F-150 of Andreas having heating issues and Ford gave them some lame reason about elevation reducing town rating. Seems like Ford EcoBoost owners that tow might be having some issues.

    • @0HOON0
      @0HOON0 2 года назад +3

      Seems like Ford may be sacrificing cooling airflow for better fuel efficiency.
      If a brand new truck overheats you can guarantee the issue will only get worse with age.

    • @MDKN22
      @MDKN22 2 года назад

      Typical Ford. Breaks under pressure.

  • @rusty383
    @rusty383 Год назад +1

    I Absolutely love the Self adjusting Shocks are Awesome.

  • @alexsharek6788
    @alexsharek6788 2 года назад +1

    Can you guys do SUV tow tests also, it would be great to know how well some SUVs will perform Like Pilot and GX along with anything that comes with a factory hitch.

  • @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
    @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080 2 года назад +3

    I also don't feel it's good practice to take off points based on the fuel mileage stated on the dash without verifying it was accurate.

  • @Kevin-hp5fk
    @Kevin-hp5fk Год назад +17

    I love the realisation he has when the Mav gets to the top of the hill. "Is that the same as the Santa Cruz?!?". Yes, if you drive an equal distance in two vehicles at the same speed, on the same surface, you'll cover that distance in the same amount of time.

    • @spyder000069
      @spyder000069 Год назад +1

      What you are missing is the account for the initial acceleration to the speed limit and whether it maintains that speed the whole time. Either can affect the overall time. In many of these tests the vehicle is sluggish to the speed limit (where more gears may have an advantage) or not enough reserve power and it requires it to be floored the whole time (also dinging the sound measurement test).

  • @fritty9927
    @fritty9927 2 года назад

    Really enjoyed the video guys.

  • @richarde1355
    @richarde1355 Год назад

    This is great stuff. I recently purchased a 3500 pound trailer and am considering a mid-size truck as both a daily driver and tow rig, and the Ridgeline is near it at the top of the list. Towing capacity is, of course, important, but all the mid size trucks meet the towing needs, and reliability and comfort are at the top of my list.
    Any thoughts on choices other than the Ridgeline?

  • @lllateralus
    @lllateralus 2 года назад +12

    27:37 that Maverick coolant temp bumped up ANOTHER mark.. and was very close to the red. Cmoooon. That sucks.

    • @diegovn
      @diegovn 2 года назад +3

      THAT!

    • @drewthompson7457
      @drewthompson7457 2 года назад

      And the 4K yow package includes extra engine and transmission cooling...

  • @javilink7
    @javilink7 2 года назад +7

    It seems like the Maverick was about to overheat right at the end of the video. That is not safe at all.

  • @JRs-guitars
    @JRs-guitars 10 месяцев назад

    Great video. As much as I dont like Hondas I'm digging the newer Ridgelines. Towing with that in Sport mode probably would've made more sense.

  • @maxracingteam23
    @maxracingteam23 2 года назад +1

    I always notice a bunch of Sinclair’s on I-76 in Colorado

  • @NatesHomeTours
    @NatesHomeTours 2 года назад +18

    27:36 That Maverick is almost overheated. That is not good. If you would have had to go any farther I think you would be pulling over to cool off.

    • @billchesney8949
      @billchesney8949 2 года назад +3

      I agree

    • @ocrapo9327
      @ocrapo9327 2 года назад

      Wow dude I don't know what video you watched or mechanic you listened to.
      The gauge shows the temp being in the middle or 1 notch over to warm. As long as you're not in the red there is no need to stop. If youre in the white you're in the normal.

    • @ocrapo9327
      @ocrapo9327 2 года назад

      @@billchesney8949 I don't agree

    • @NatesHomeTours
      @NatesHomeTours 2 года назад +1

      @@ocrapo9327 Looking at it more closely I missed the bars at the top. I only saw the line at the bottom

    • @billchesney8949
      @billchesney8949 2 года назад +1

      @@ocrapo9327 One more bar and it would be in the red

  • @javilink7
    @javilink7 2 года назад +16

    My pick would be the Santa Cruz. It is a top safety pick, it is more comfortable, better sound insulation, and it has a more efficient and powerful engine. They could have selected the sel premium trim of the Santa Cruz to be closer to the Maverick pricing.

  • @Tujae_
    @Tujae_ 2 года назад

    I'm glad I watched this video. The results surprised me. This has changed my previous opinions.