You're seriously brilliant for demonstrating a rear facing car seat, it's a very rare topic on RUclips and I can't thank you enough for doing car seat tests!
I bought the frontier, king cab. It does feel really "planted", as you said in the video. It also seems much quieter than my previous '12 Frontier. I put 195k trouble free miles on the '12, hoping for similar with the '22. I paid $34k, base model, 4x4, with the electronics pkg.
@@ia6980 A bunch of sensors I don't use! The little lights in the side view mirrors when someone is in my blind spot are helpful, other than that I don't really use them. The rear sensor I have to turn off every time I turn the truck on when I'm towing or I'll move two feet and the brakes slam on automatically, which is annoying as hell. Otherwise, great truck. One thing I really like when I'm on logging roads is the "manual" mode on the transmission. You can manually shift between any of the nine speeds and it'll stay there, nice for going down hill. In my area the Nissan is always more competitive on price than the Tacoma.
I bought a Frontier and love it. Honestly the Ranger would have been my second choice for the mid size I really like them . I also have 3 childs seats in my Frontier 1 rear facing and 2 booster seats enough room for us but to be fair I'm short so it works for me.
@@warren3967 the IIHS website literally has this down to a science as part of their safety ratings. You can look up any vehicle and see the scores for low/high beams, straight and around corners.
I'm soooo happy you did the baby seat test and mentioned your height because I'm 6'3"+ with a baby so that changed my decision completely. Thanks so much, great video!
Both these trucks look very uncomfortable with a baby seat. Shows that a full size is def the better option with a baby. I wouldn't want to be pressed up on the dashboard like that
I've always been afraid to buy any car or truck with a turbo because of future repair costs. That's not to say I don't like the Ranger. Great no bs review.
It's a Mazda designed engine that's been around for a while, originally in the Mazdaspeed3/6 and the cx9 as far back as 2008. Most of the kinks have been worked out as the mid 2010s ecoboost 4 cylinders had some cooling issues. That being said, I'd take a bigger v6 over a turbo 4 any day.
I bought the Frontier 4x Pro, it's fully loaded, with that package you get heated leather seat and heated steering wheel, heated outside mirror, moon roof, 9inch clear sharp display with navigation system, 360 surrounding camera, 10 fender speakers with sub-woofer, and there's lot more.
@@monsterclaws2661 I get about 15.5 in the city 2wd and about 16.5 or 17 combined. But, I do have 234,000 miles on original powertrain. Considering one of these if someone was to total my truck here in Memphis.
I got a 2022 pro4x frontier. It's a huge upgrade from what I had before, I've used it a bit already, hauling patio furniture, dump-runs, light stuff. It's great. I love it. Couldn't be happier with it. My only complaint so far is the selector for 4wheel drive is cheap af, super minor complaint I know haha.
2019 Ranger XLT 4X4 here. I replaced my rear shocks with $80 Bilsteins and it rides perfectly while I towed my Honda S2000 through the Tennessee mountains with two car seats in the back. Love the turbo charger!! Sport mode is so much faster than Drive, and it will run on 87-93 fuel. Just depends on the pocket book that week.
Frontier is by far the best looking midsize truck on the market. That 11 years old Ranger platform somehow out performs the Frontier which blows my mind. If you take off that stupid splash package, I bet the price will be the same. I would take the Frontier home because it looks so good, or I would just wait a year for the new Ranger.
Nissan wasn’t going for high performance towing wise they polled their customers and asked therm wat they wanted, most of them said we love the current truck, don’t make it bigger, don’t need more towing abilities cause we’d just get a bigger truck if we needed that, and update it interior wise and exterior wise and it needs better fuel economy all of which Nissan checked off in this update
Great payload test guys! The Frontier is a stout, solid little truck. As you'd showed from other tests, I'm wondering why Nissan set it up on the stiff side. The Ranger may have a little better off-roading characteristics with a softer suspension.
One thing Nissan got right on the Frontier is the Pro-4x getting Bilstein shocks. The Ranger FX4 shocks among Ranger owners are generally disliked due to that floaty nature. Many of us, myself included, swap at minimum the rear shocks to remedy this. I personally went to Fox 2.0's on all 4 corners and couldn't be happier with the ride. Its what the FX4 should have had, but I guess that's why Ford released the Tremor.
My dad had a 2000 Frontier he shipped to the Dominican Republic in 05. He had it there for about 15 years and beat the piss out of it. Constantly overloading it and mostly driven off road. I didn't think it was going to last as long as it did, especially the way he was driving it. I've owned 3 myself. 04, 12 and now an 18 which I plan on keeping for as long as possible. All awesome trucks. Best bang for your buck, hands down. The Nissan will outlive the Ford, no question.
I had a 2018 frontier. Drove great and survived 2 car accidents I was even t-boned at 60 mph and I still managed to drive away after all was said in done I ended up buying a 2023 frontier and im very very happy with it. Huge improvement all around on the bed and cabin. Mine are sv's
100k miles on my ranger and it’s been perfect except for the drivers heated seat .. 24-26 mpg and pulls exactly what I need it too so no regrets with my purchase
That is pretty good milage. Not sure if I would get that good of milage living here in the mountains of Virginia. My 2.3 Big Bend auto is only getting 19.5-21 ... I was thinking of getting a Ranger or Tacoma until the opportunity came for me to pick up my current Bronco. The 2.3L is an awesome engine.
@@007Omega I can agree with that, my drive is 55-70mph flat land with the occasional rolling hill .. I travel from east ky to southern oh .. the 2.3 has been a great engine for sure
@@heydaddy6817Usually the naturally aspirated, especially when the Ranger has a turbo 4. A V6 will outlive any turbo 4. However now that the new Ranger will be offering the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 in the XLT and Lariat trims alongside the turbo 4, I want to see how that changes.
Great video and honest reviews done with these tests! Here in the US, the NISSAN dealers are getting $3,000 over MSRP, and the current MSRP for a PRO 4 X is now around $47.000 plus! Until the supply chain issues are resolved and more inventory comes online, the prices remain high for both of these trucks here in America! And the FORD dealers are even more aggressive with charging way over MSRP! As much as I love both of these trucks I'm out of the market until I can once again buy one for less than MSRP!
Just got a Pro4X with convenience package for $47000 OTD with taxes and everything. That’s 2600$ under msrp. Stealerships are starting to realize they can’t ride the wave anymore and cars are piling up in their lots
Great video! I will be buying a truck soon and these are the only two models I'm considering. I appreciate the testing scenarios you used. One thing I would like to see in future videos is a graphic on the screen with the stats from the vehicles being tested. It would make is easy to pause the video and mull over the differences in horsepower, torque, payload etc. Thanks for your efforts!
You knocked this comparison review out of the park… Rear leg room + car seat Payload Decibels test Keep it up!!!! In the market for a truck. Super helpful!!! Leaning towards the Frontier (bed features, interior features, ride quality) but want to see what Ford comes out with for their new Ranger 👀
I am looking at a new ranger. Thanks so much for your video. I noticed when you were swapping out the mats, both tailgates were level with each other and the mats were still in the ranger. The Nissan squatted much lower. I am your size so I would rather have the ford. Thank you!
I bought a 2022 frontier. I don't need to haul heavy loads or tow. I will have grandkids soon and I thought the frontier perfect for car seats. I love the frontier!!
I like the frontend of the Ranger. It is less busy and the sloping hood allows you to see the road closer to the truck. Good video showing the car seat and front and rear seating.
Thanks for presenting and demonstrating both trucks as fairly and unbiased as possible. And the child seat test was very clever! I’m not in that stage of my life where I need to worry about that but many buyers are. Personally I would buy a Ranger Supercab. I don’t need the crew cab and would rather have the extra bed length. I’d also get my Ranger in either the STX or XLT trim to bring the price down a few grand.
Thanks for video im currently looking into buying a ranger with the splash package. It was awesome to be able to see what it looks like driving. Also a family member mentioned the Nissan over the ranger but this video answered all that and more for me I will still be more interested in the ranger for the same reasons!
Don't forget that from a dead stop...it matters not how much Horsepower an engine makes....what matters from the take off is the Torque output. Horsepower gets you more speed at higher rpms...but torque is what gets the vehicle moving from a dead stop. The more the torque generated by the engine....the more Gs you will feel when you stomp on the gas pedal
yea but then they're gonna stick the giant vertical iPad touch screen on the dash board which takes away most of hard physical buttons and thats probably too much for me especially in the midsize truck segment. Most people are doing that and i kinda don't like that trend.
Great comparison guys especially the baby car seat test portion. This would give Daddys out there like me an idea which one to get between the two. Ranger it is.
Bravo to you for the car seat review man!! I was shopping for a Frontier but was able to get a better price on a ranger (my second choice) and Im getting a 19’ lariat this week and im so happy to see how much more spacious the back seating is. Thanks man!
Thanks for doing the car seat tests. With gas prices on the rise it might be time to retire the old 5.4 3v and get something a little more efficient but still family friendly
Great review guys! I test drove only these two trucks before buying the 2022 Ranger Lariat FX4. The frontier has a nicer interior but the Ranger is just more capable (we have a small travel trailer). The seats in the Ranger are far more comfortable as well...especially the back seats.
Mike - soliciting an opinion. I really like the Lariat, but they are un-obtainable. All tell me they cannot be found and if I want one I can order from the factory and if lucky, I may get it in 4-6 months. The Frontier is gettable. They are actually on the lot. My car got totaled when I got t-boned. So need something. You chose the Lariat. Could you have lived with the Frontier? I don't expect to have back-seat passengers often. Kids are grown and gone. Don't do off-roading. I understand the Frontier can be had with a premium package that seems fairly well loaded. I'd welcome your opinion because you have no skin in the game.
Frontier Pro 4x for me all day. Seems to be overall the best "swiss army knife" in the mid-size truck category. Excellent offroading, solid payload capacity and towing, handles nicely on-road as well. Overall was a win for me (and why a brand new 2022 Pro 4x is sitting in my garage right now!)
If I were in the market for a mid-size, this race is tight. I'd take whichever one the dealer would work with me best on, but these two and the Taco make for a strong segment. I am looking forward to the new Ford Ranger. Hopefully there will be a longer wheelbase option to accommodate the four doors and a 6-6.5 foot bed. Things I prefer are locking dif on lower packages, adaptive cruise, and long bed with four full doors, and decent headlights.
XLT with 302a gets powered seats as well. Agree stock tremor suspension is great. All others suck. 🤣 ... You don't even need to go 2.0s.. just get Bilstein or Eibach dampers on all 4 corners for 300$ and you will get 90% of any 2.0 upgrade for much less money. The ranger is still the best mid size truck out there. The aftermarket is great. I wish we could get a 6g ranger interior with the 5g exterior.
Nice real world comparison. Hopefully you guys took these on your off-road course for a future comparison video. I’m a Ranger owner and still happy with the decision. I bought before the new Nissan came out but I don’t think I’d change my pick. I test drove the other midsize trucks before I bought and decided on the Ranger. Like you noted, and pretty much every other automotive journalist has as well, the ride is floaty and kind of rocks side to side. Ford should be ashamed of the shocks they installed on the FX4 Rangers. Thankfully this is easily rectified by a set of Bilstein or Eibach shocks for not a ton of money. No a person shouldn’t have to change shocks on a new truck but it in the mail be the truck still rides and handles great and is way more settled.
I have a 2020 XLT ranger and I don’t get the complaints of the ride. It rides like trucks of old which to me I like. I believe we have gotten so used to so called fake trucks being car based we think all of them should be what’s called “composed”. I love the rig and have no complaints. I don’t find much body roll or floaty problems. But that’s me
Love the redesign of the Frontier but I personally have a Ranger and still love that pick up. Looking forward to the refreshed look coming in the near future
I have a 2020 Ranger Lariat FX4 and I do love it. I was coming from a 12 Tacoma TRD off Road. The cab space and head room are SO much better in Ranger and the part i found best was the turbo. I live in Wyoming and at altitude the turbo loses none of it power. SO responsive even as I ascend...I will never go back to NA engines again.
@@drn13355 I live in a city and use to have an F150 but it was such a pain to park and drive through town so I made the switch to the Ranger. I did some foot work and checked out the GM twins and the Tacoma. Maybe I have a bias towards Ford but I didn't like any of them compared to my experience in the Ranger. The Tacoma felt super sluggish to me. The GM twins are alright but I just felt the best in the Ranger. Love this pick up. My only gripe is the tank size. I wish it were a tad larger but I understand the reasoning it is not.
Bought a '23 frontier SV crew with the long bed 4x4 and love it. Im 6'2 300lbs and it fits me comfortably and I can haul lumber if my guys need a fill in. I want to rave about the adaptive cruise control and outlet + leds in the bed. Its loaded! My biggest complaints are the stock sound system and for some reason the lean forward/back control is high enough where a bigger guy/gal will hit it with their leg/wallet everytime you get in and out. I thought I was losing my mind baving to re adjust my seat everytime I got back in my truck. Don't regret my purchase one bit and it's the first brand new truck I've ever bought. Right under 42k
I own an older 2018 Frontier and love it! I've also owned two much older Ford Rangers back in the 80's. I know the Nissan has been remodeled and that the Ranger is too and that they're both really different from the trucks I own or have owned. At the end of the day I think I would pick the Nissan. Sadly that's because I think the Nissan is more inclined to last and hold up better mechanically over the Ford. My wife and I quit buying the American brand cars back in the 90's because of bad luck with domestic brands (mostly Fords). Prior to that I was a strict buy American made guy. However, I also tend to own my cars well past the pay off date so really want longevity in my vehicles! That has translated to Honda for passenger cars and Nissan for trucks. We have found them to be a great value!
Good review, thanks for sharing. When I bought my 2019 Ranger XLT FX4 2-door, the Frontier was still the (very) old model, I didn't even consider it. My Ranger has over 50k miles now, and I am very happy with it. It's driven long distances on road and quite a bit off-road, both for work and play (I work in agriculture). Does it ride like a truck? Sure it does, but that's what I need. In my opinion, it corners and tracks very well, however. Fuel eficiency is decent, better than all the competitors. Payload and towing capacity are important for me, too, and it beats the competition in both. At 6'1", I sit very comfortable, even on long hauls. My Ranger has only needed regular standard maintenance (oil change & tire rotation every 5000 miles), no repairs needed so far. It's a reliable, tough little truck.
Very good comparison on both trucks. For me I would go for the frontier. Key features cold weather package as standard equipment, very comfortable ride and seats for us 50 and up , and NO stop/start system on it.
It'd be a tough decision for me. I really like both trucks. I traded in a 2019 Frontier Pro-4x for a 2021 Ranger Lariat FX-4. The new Frontier hadn't come out yet and the Ford stealership was willing to give me what I paid for my Frontier so it was a deal. Had the new Frontier been out I would've given it very serious consideration. Neither truck has left me stranded and I'm sure I'd be happy with either one.
I was in this situation 2 months ago. After test driving both multiple times, I feel the powertrain is smoother in the Frontier, but I was much more comfortable in the Ranger, so bought the Tremor. Haven't regretted it yet, except for the shudder issue on take off. Didn't know it was a thing until after I bought it. :-/
@@mattlee4807 That it does, but I find it tiring to have to do that. Also, I do not like how the truck surges between shifts. (As it it expected a load). I cope, but I'm not happy about this particular issue. It shouldn't be a thing. I'd put a tune on it, but I don't want to void warranties.
@@tracy2928 I understand all of that and have the same issues. I hear there is a Ford tune that only adds about 45 HP and fixes it. And doesn’t void the warranty.
@@mattlee4807 But only has a 3 year powertrain warranty. I have 2 other warranties, one of which is a bumper to bumper for 7 years. That's the one I don't want to void...and getting an answer from someone is like pulling teeth from a shark.
I have yet to drive the Frontier, but I like its styling! I loved the Ranger when I test drove one and the seats are great too. The thing that really kills the Frontier for me is the no telescoping steering wheel and the new transmission. I like to lean back when I drive and I doubt ill be able to without the wheel moving back. I really hope the transmission does well longevity wise, but I've had Jatco transmissions before and I've never had a good experience with them. Since both are out of my price range due to mark ups in my area, I will be watching the reviews come in on the Frontier from owners and see how it does!
I’m 5’9” tall, interior space is not an issue for me. I have a 2020 Ranger and love it. I’m interested in the Frontier, but will probably wait for the Ranger Raptor.
I bought the 22 frontier Pro X with luxury package every option except 4x4. But it has the off-road tires and suspension obviously. It’s equivalent to the Tacoma TRD off-road 4x2. Which I have had 2 of those and with the new design of the frontier I figured I would give it a shot. I really appreciate Japanese manufacturing. Only gripe is it doesn’t have the Rear diff locks like the 4x2 TRD off-road. Other than I love it and it’s the most powerful in its class has good pep, which I feel like titans and frontiers have always had.
Frontier all day, for its reliability, modern features and more confident driving dynamics. Also, not everyone needs max carrying capacity and interior space. Larger isn't automatically better, it depends on your personal needs. I am single and rarely have more than 1 other person in the vehicle with me. I also don't tow and 1100 or 1200 payload is more than I'll ever need for DIY projects and camping/traveling. The Frontier is just a better, more modern total package, in my opinion.
Bonjour Truck King, Thanks for the video. I ended up buying a Ranger with the Tremor package last summer. No regrets whatsoever ! However, as the nissan wasn't available at the time, I'm really looking forward to your review of the offroads capabilities between both of those trucks.
Payload difference is in the sunroof, premium audio system with 2 amps and a subwoofer, bigger engine, and bed clamp rails lights and power hookup. Nissan has more features and for a lower price.
Good comparison but Nissan is all new against an old platform and ford is ahead in all things a truck is made for. Towing capacity, payload capacity, and roomier. Id go ranger and next year in this market no one will choose the frontier over the all new ranger.
Thank you so much for comparing the payload capacity of the stickers. Most people just read off the online specs which always shows the pro 4x at over 1500.
I bought a Frontier because I loved the style and the options. A big factor is that there was no Ranger available. But the biggest point is that I trust the V6 ahead of the turbo for the long run. The seats are very confortables and it rides nice on the road. If you find the truck crampy, maybe you should look for a F150.
Ty for the review, always a pleasure seeing them ... both are great looking options ... I might sound old but these are midsize trucks ... with a full size sticker price! ... based on these price points, they don't make financial sense as there are full size trucks in these price points with decent features, more payload, more cabin space... even similar mpg too ...
Great video. Love that you don't do drama and act like a small rock path is going to cause death. Some other channels are drama queens. It would be cool if you did the opposite video now. Compare some extended cabs. Some folks have families, some have no friends. I am considering either a ZR2 extended cab or a Ranger FX4 extended cab. Very litte content on extended cabs, rear seat deletes, etc.
Nissan is more truck like, firm controls no overly sensitive power steering or braking. performance hearkening to the Hard body days. Very happy with mine.
I have a 2021 Ranger XLT FX4. The suspension is pretty soft with the FX4 package. A lot of people replace the rear shocks with Eibach, Bilstein, or Fox and takes the wallowing ride out of it. Other than replacing the rear shocks, I love the power and mpgs of the ranger.
I think you should check the average purchase price on TrueCar. Nissan dealers are still playing ball, but Ford dealers act like getting msrp is a steal.
The Frontier looks fantastic, and I like that I could have a full cab and full size bed. I just don’t trust those transmissions I personally own a 2019 Ranger and 50k miles on it, it’s a fantastic truck. 23-24mpg, have towed 5000lbs without issue and have put 1600lbs in the bed many times. Honestly my biggest complaint is there is no dials for volume/temp control. It’s a terrible design choice.
I love my 2019 Ranger. However, as dumb as it sounds, the number one reason I have thought of replacing it is to get one with much better temperature controls. I drive on single lane, twisty highways daily in all sorts of weather and it is such a distraction having to push the screen buttons or the super small dash ones. I cannot believe the design went into production really. It seems like it is meant to be used on the auto setting but that is not always practical.
After my last truck I'll never own a Ford again. Too many issues and recalls and their so-called fixes for recall items still left one of my major complaints unresolved. The doors would freeze shut in the winter due to water getting into the locking mechanism and if you got them to open then you couldn't get them to shut. They added so-called shields and then lubricated everything inside but still had to deal with this during the winter months.
good comparison, these 2 are very closely matched. It really comes down to how you are going to use the truck. Generally turbos dont have a long life so that will be something to do/deal with on the ranger but otherwise should be solid as well.
The 2.3 eco boost is an old engine and has a lot of life in it. And turbos like all technology have certainly progressed since the 80s, unlike people’s opinions on them.
Great video. One thing on suspension the stock suspension on all trims of the ranger minus the Tremor is garbage. Good thing both Bilstein and eibach makes for under 300$ dampers that replace all 4 corners and allows for some lift which transforms the ride.
We have a '21 Ranger, and I would agree w/the "floatiness" comment. This seems to be due to the greatly inadequate shocks that Ford uses in the Ranger. Replacing the rear shocks with something decent makes a huge and better difference in handling. I would say that anyone considering the purchase of a Ranger should just plan on spending an extra few hundred bucks on a set of respectable shocks. Installation is fairly easy, and can be done without lifting the vehicle.
I'd go with the Ford Ranger. I wonder if the Tremor corrects the ride issues? Test drove a non Tremor and I hear you about the ride quality. Lots of head swaying back and forth unloaded normal driving. Could not justify trading my half ton for one at the time.
I watched videos for a month and did a bunch of research before buying my Ranger Tremor. I couldn’t be happier with this truck. And 7,500 towing is great for a mid size truck.
Great video TK. Really informative and great comparison. I am curious though as if I were to buy a midsize truck it would be one of these. You picked the Ranger as it stands now, but knowing what you know would you buy the Ranger now or wait for the new model that is coming soon?
Great, real-world review. I picked the Nissan Frontier (2020) because I am 6', 190lb and I don't give a damn about the comfort of my kids that are old enough to drive their own autos. 20 years ago I would have likely chosen the Ranger.
I've had 1/2 ton trucks and 3/4 ton trucks but if I were shopping today for a midsize truck I think the fuel economy would be a major factor for downsizing. Surprised with the cost of gas there was little to no mention of fuel economy comparisons. I am also quite surprised at the cost of these midsize trucks. Less then 5 years ago I drove home a new Ram 2500 Hemi Big Horn with the offroad package and sport package for $44K USD. Lots of changes in truck prices over the last 5 years.
Power under the curve to the wheels = speed. I own a Ranger so I’m bias but I do appreciate the bed features the Nissan offers. I do get some really great mpg for a mid size truck
I bought a 2021 Ranger. It was down to the Ranger or the Tacoma. On the test drive, both kids fit in the rear seat with forward facing car seats. In the Tacoma my son was behind the drive seat and had his knees in his chest. I'm 6'4" and was surprised when I checked the Ranger out in the showroom and could easily fit behind myself on the passenger side and barely had my knees in the seat in the rear driver side seat. At this time the new Frontier was not out, but I had discounted the old Frontier, Colorado, and Gladiator from research and watching youtube videos, yes this and other channels. Next just take into account how they drive and the Ranger blew the Tacoma away. Ford really knocked it out of the park in the mid-size market. Load and towing capacity and offroad capability for the price is phenomenal. The fuel economy is also really nice. I'm generally 21 to 23 mpg on my tanks.
I have a 2019 Ranger and I absolutely love it. Best truck I’ve ever had. Powerful, fast, roomy, good mpg. Fixed the “floaty” feel with Fox shocks on rear. This one is a keeper.
@Hector Navarro Yeah thanks for your fake concern, but I’m sure I won’t need it. Not one single issue to date. You, however, will need more than just an extended warranty on your crap-ass toyota. Wonder what will go first, your frame rotting out? Maybe the crappy transmission will drop? Perhaps the ball joints will prematurely wear out? How about a leaky exhaust manifold? Your truck is uncomfortable, underpowered, clunky, and way overpriced, but Fan-Boys like you will never admit that it is a seriously underwhelming truck when compared to the others. I used to drive a taco. 2017 TRD Pro. Worst POS truck I ever owned. But you do you.
I’ve been a ford guy a long time… sold my f150 for a Maverick, hates the maverick so I traded it in for a straight trade for a 23 frontier…. VERY happy, and looks like I’ll be a frontier buyer for a long time.
Great Review/ Comparison I just hit 2500 miles in my New Toyota Tacoma TRD off road. It's a Dog off the line until about 27+ mph, having said that I'm enjoying most of the Tacoma‘s features. Really like the styling on the Nissan, if Nissan gave me a great trade in I would seriously consider it. Great content Elmer's Keep up the great work 🙏
I would take either one of these trucks over a Tacoma. Look, I know it's reliable but I couldn't live with one after test driving multiple years since 2016. The transmission is absolute garbage on the interstate, constantly hunting for gears on even the slightest of grades.
I've actually not had the much of an issue with that @ highway speed, it rocked up Donner pass in Kalifornia 3%-6% over 30 miles. It's the low speed driving around town
Im kinda bummed about my tacoma for interstate driving. Any speed limit above 65 mph kills my gas. I found that small highways and dirt roads gave me the best mpg. Kinda miss my old nissan in this respect
Personally I would go with the Ranger, mainly because I have a 99 Ranger XL 4x4 with the 3.Slow and the 5 speed manual. Can't go wrong with a 2.3 I4 either. I do have my niece and nephew to drive around on occasion, and my brother goes sometimes.
Nice testing! I am 6'4" tall, and I don't think I could be an inch taller and still fit in my Frontier. My 2021 Pro 4X is "arctic blue metallic" in color, and has white tread decals on the left/top of the hood, and on both sides of the bed in the back. I'm not sure, but that might be a comparable "looks" package as the Ranger you tested.
great video man !!! i was flip flopping between the 2trucks on which one to buy ......lol i landed on the 2022 nissan frontier SV crew cab , love the new front end look on them too which was the deal breaker for me cheers
I ordered the 22 ranger in the lowest trim and added every feature I wanted, came out cheaper that way and I absolutely love it. That said I have to admit I like the styling on the frontier better for everything except the wheels/tires.
You're seriously brilliant for demonstrating a rear facing car seat, it's a very rare topic on RUclips and I can't thank you enough for doing car seat tests!
I second this comment.
This should be top comment ❤️
100% agreed
Agreed - this was a key point for me a few years ago and couldn't find find much information at the time.
Yes! Many of us would like to use these as family vehicles too.
I bought the frontier, king cab. It does feel really "planted", as you said in the video. It also seems much quieter than my previous '12 Frontier. I put 195k trouble free miles on the '12, hoping for similar with the '22.
I paid $34k, base model, 4x4, with the electronics pkg.
What does electronics package include? Seems like frontier has a better deal in price
@@ia6980 A bunch of sensors I don't use! The little lights in the side view mirrors when someone is in my blind spot are helpful, other than that I don't really use them. The rear sensor I have to turn off every time I turn the truck on when I'm towing or I'll move two feet and the brakes slam on automatically, which is annoying as hell.
Otherwise, great truck. One thing I really like when I'm on logging roads is the "manual" mode on the transmission. You can manually shift between any of the nine speeds and it'll stay there, nice for going down hill.
In my area the Nissan is always more competitive on price than the Tacoma.
@@brianruff1133 awesome! Thanks for the info!
I bought a Frontier and love it. Honestly the Ranger would have been my second choice for the mid size I really like them . I also have 3 childs seats in my Frontier 1 rear facing and 2 booster seats enough room for us but to be fair I'm short so it works for me.
Not having to worry about incurring the cost of replacing a turbo also provides some peace of mind.
@@DerickAguinaldo Especially, if you tow or haul a lot. That turbo will be working overtime. For the general mall crawler, it probably doesn't hurt.
I'm a die hard Ford guy, and I love the rangers abilities. But I have to give it to the frontier, it is the best looking mid-sized truck ever made.
Test drive the 22 frontier and you will realize it’s the best powertrain too
@@patriotsouthern8123 that 3.8
I love it! Who else tries to fit in a baby seat in the back and get in the front? This is super practical and often missed when it comes to reviews.
The other test that is always missing is lighting, how good are the headlights. Not like we never drive these things in the dark.
It’s great. When I asked my Ford dealership about putting a car seat in the Ranger, they just “no we’ve never heard or anyone doing that”.
@@warren3967 the IIHS website literally has this down to a science as part of their safety ratings. You can look up any vehicle and see the scores for low/high beams, straight and around corners.
@@mtbrdude Here in Australia there's nothing as smart as that.
@@onthemoverealestatephotogr9655 car seat definitely fits in mine. I have a full back seat
I'm soooo happy you did the baby seat test and mentioned your height because I'm 6'3"+ with a baby so that changed my decision completely. Thanks so much, great video!
Both these trucks look very uncomfortable with a baby seat. Shows that a full size is def the better option with a baby. I wouldn't want to be pressed up on the dashboard like that
I'm a big dude, at 6' 4" I really appreciate the seating perspective you guys provide as it relates to people over 6' tall. Thanks TK
Which one you think wins when it comes to tall people seating??
I've always been afraid to buy any car or truck with a turbo because of future repair costs. That's not to say I don't like the Ranger. Great no bs review.
It's a Mazda designed engine that's been around for a while, originally in the Mazdaspeed3/6 and the cx9 as far back as 2008. Most of the kinks have been worked out as the mid 2010s ecoboost 4 cylinders had some cooling issues. That being said, I'd take a bigger v6 over a turbo 4 any day.
I bought the Frontier 4x Pro, it's fully loaded, with that package you get heated leather seat and heated steering wheel, heated outside mirror, moon roof, 9inch clear sharp display with navigation system, 360 surrounding camera, 10 fender speakers with sub-woofer, and there's lot more.
How's the gas milage? I mainly drive city. I'm curious how it compares to my 2008 4.0 Frontier. Is the Fender audi worth the upgrade?
@@markharrison7922 I get 17 to 19 or sometimes 20 in the city. it depends on the traffics, keep your RPM between 2 and 3 to save gas.
@@monsterclaws2661 I get about 15.5 in the city 2wd and about 16.5 or 17 combined. But, I do have 234,000 miles on original powertrain. Considering one of these if someone was to total my truck here in Memphis.
I got a 2022 pro4x frontier. It's a huge upgrade from what I had before, I've used it a bit already, hauling patio furniture, dump-runs, light stuff. It's great. I love it. Couldn't be happier with it. My only complaint so far is the selector for 4wheel drive is cheap af, super minor complaint I know haha.
1st world problem
@@jasonpaiva4793 typing it out made me feel like a 1%'er
I can't believe that on my 22 TRD Off-Road , the door locks are not connected with tailgate, really Toyota.
@@jasonpaiva4793 When is Nissan gonna release their connect app on the PS5 so I can see stats about my truck while I'm gaming in 4k?
2019 Ranger XLT 4X4 here. I replaced my rear shocks with $80 Bilsteins and it rides perfectly while I towed my Honda S2000 through the Tennessee mountains with two car seats in the back. Love the turbo charger!! Sport mode is so much faster than Drive, and it will run on 87-93 fuel. Just depends on the pocket book that week.
I like the look of the Frontier of all the current mid-sized trucks. Saw one the other day with a 6 inch lift on 33's. Looked really good.
Frontier is by far the best looking midsize truck on the market. That 11 years old Ranger platform somehow out performs the Frontier which blows my mind. If you take off that stupid splash package, I bet the price will be the same. I would take the Frontier home because it looks so good, or I would just wait a year for the new Ranger.
Nissan wasn’t going for high performance towing wise they polled their customers and asked therm wat they wanted, most of them said we love the current truck, don’t make it bigger, don’t need more towing abilities cause we’d just get a bigger truck if we needed that, and update it interior wise and exterior wise and it needs better fuel economy all of which Nissan checked off in this update
Great payload test guys! The Frontier is a stout, solid little truck. As you'd showed from other tests, I'm wondering why Nissan set it up on the stiff side. The Ranger may have a little better off-roading characteristics with a softer suspension.
One thing Nissan got right on the Frontier is the Pro-4x getting Bilstein shocks. The Ranger FX4 shocks among Ranger owners are generally disliked due to that floaty nature. Many of us, myself included, swap at minimum the rear shocks to remedy this. I personally went to Fox 2.0's on all 4 corners and couldn't be happier with the ride. Its what the FX4 should have had, but I guess that's why Ford released the Tremor.
I think stiff is better for high speed off-road.
@@Agent.K. It is for slow speed trail riding it sucks though.
My dad had a 2000 Frontier he shipped to the Dominican Republic in 05. He had it there for about 15 years and beat the piss out of it. Constantly overloading it and mostly driven off road. I didn't think it was going to last as long as it did, especially the way he was driving it. I've owned 3 myself. 04, 12 and now an 18 which I plan on keeping for as long as possible. All awesome trucks. Best bang for your buck, hands down. The Nissan will outlive the Ford, no question.
Fully loaded 0-60 is a test I never knew I wanted, but absolutely enjoy lol
This is probably the best comparison video for these trucks. Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
I had a 2018 frontier. Drove great and survived 2 car accidents I was even t-boned at 60 mph and I still managed to drive away after all was said in done I ended up buying a 2023 frontier and im very very happy with it. Huge improvement all around on the bed and cabin. Mine are sv's
100k miles on my ranger and it’s been perfect except for the drivers heated seat .. 24-26 mpg and pulls exactly what I need it too so no regrets with my purchase
That is pretty good milage. Not sure if I would get that good of milage living here in the mountains of Virginia.
My 2.3 Big Bend auto is only getting 19.5-21 ...
I was thinking of getting a Ranger or Tacoma until the opportunity came for me to pick up my current Bronco. The 2.3L is an awesome engine.
2wd or 4wd?
@@JFlogerzi 4wd
@@007Omega I can agree with that, my drive is 55-70mph flat land with the occasional rolling hill .. I travel from east ky to southern oh .. the 2.3 has been a great engine for sure
Think you should also mention reliability. Turbo vs naturally aspirated, repair costs, projected reliability.
Which one would be more reliable?
@@heydaddy6817Usually the naturally aspirated, especially when the Ranger has a turbo 4. A V6 will outlive any turbo 4. However now that the new Ranger will be offering the 2.7L EcoBoost V6 in the XLT and Lariat trims alongside the turbo 4, I want to see how that changes.
I like the look of the Frontier better than the Ranger, but if I were in the market, I think I would go with the Ranger.
Great video and honest reviews done with these tests! Here in the US, the NISSAN dealers are getting $3,000 over MSRP, and the current MSRP for a PRO 4 X is now around $47.000 plus! Until the supply chain issues are resolved and more inventory comes online, the prices remain high for both of these trucks here in America! And the FORD dealers are even more aggressive with charging way over MSRP! As much as I love both of these trucks I'm out of the market until I can once again buy one for less than MSRP!
Just got a Pro4X with convenience package for $47000 OTD with taxes and everything. That’s 2600$ under msrp. Stealerships are starting to realize they can’t ride the wave anymore and cars are piling up in their lots
@@IronJoe Congratulations, good deal! I just left a FORD dealership and they're still asking $1,000 over MSRP for a RANGER!
Bought a 22 s model with 1700 miles for 30800.what it was listed for.sales mgr wouldn't budge..said it was already marked down a few weeks back.
@@timhenderson6473 Sounds like you did well. Was this a Nissan Frontier? 4 WD? What part of the country, maybe I should start looking in your state!
@@boomerrangerron western pa.the s model.only 1750 miles on it
Great video! I will be buying a truck soon and these are the only two models I'm considering. I appreciate the testing scenarios you used. One thing I would like to see in future videos is a graphic on the screen with the stats from the vehicles being tested. It would make is easy to pause the video and mull over the differences in horsepower, torque, payload etc. Thanks for your efforts!
Which one did you buy
You knocked this comparison review out of the park…
Rear leg room + car seat
Payload
Decibels test
Keep it up!!!! In the market for a truck. Super helpful!!!
Leaning towards the Frontier (bed features, interior features, ride quality) but want to see what Ford comes out with for their new Ranger 👀
I am looking at a new ranger. Thanks so much for your video. I noticed when you were swapping out the mats, both tailgates were level with each other and the mats were still in the ranger. The Nissan squatted much lower. I am your size so I would rather have the ford.
Thank you!
I bought a 2022 frontier. I don't need to haul heavy loads or tow. I will have grandkids soon and I thought the frontier perfect for car seats. I love the frontier!!
I like the frontend of the Ranger. It is less busy and the sloping hood allows you to see the road closer to the truck. Good video showing the car seat and front and rear seating.
Thanks for presenting and demonstrating both trucks as fairly and unbiased as possible. And the child seat test was very clever! I’m not in that stage of my life where I need to worry about that but many buyers are. Personally I would buy a Ranger Supercab. I don’t need the crew cab and would rather have the extra bed length. I’d also get my Ranger in either the STX or XLT trim to bring the price down a few grand.
I love our 2020 ranger. Great mpg, the motor doesn't rev much above 2,000 rpms, and 310lbs/tq tows great with the 3.73gears and 10 speed.
Thanks for video im currently looking into buying a ranger with the splash package. It was awesome to be able to see what it looks like driving. Also a family member mentioned the Nissan over the ranger but this video answered all that and more for me I will still be more interested in the ranger for the same reasons!
Don't forget that from a dead stop...it matters not how much Horsepower an engine makes....what matters from the take off is the Torque output. Horsepower gets you more speed at higher rpms...but torque is what gets the vehicle moving from a dead stop. The more the torque generated by the engine....the more Gs you will feel when you stomp on the gas pedal
I prefer the updated Frontier over the old Ranger. I suspect that Ford will do a great update to the Ranger.
yea but then they're gonna stick the giant vertical iPad touch screen on the dash board which takes away most of hard physical buttons and thats probably too much for me especially in the midsize truck segment. Most people are doing that and i kinda don't like that trend.
Great comparison guys especially the baby car seat test portion. This would give Daddys out there like me an idea which one to get between the two. Ranger it is.
Bravo to you for the car seat review man!! I was shopping for a Frontier but was able to get a better price on a ranger (my second choice) and Im getting a 19’ lariat this week and im so happy to see how much more spacious the back seating is. Thanks man!
Glad I could help!
Thanks for doing the car seat tests. With gas prices on the rise it might be time to retire the old 5.4 3v and get something a little more efficient but still family friendly
Great review guys! I test drove only these two trucks before buying the 2022 Ranger Lariat FX4. The frontier has a nicer interior but the Ranger is just more capable (we have a small travel trailer). The seats in the Ranger are far more comfortable as well...especially the back seats.
Mike - soliciting an opinion. I really like the Lariat, but they are un-obtainable. All tell me they cannot be found and if I want one I can order from the factory and if lucky, I may get it in 4-6 months. The Frontier is gettable. They are actually on the lot. My car got totaled when I got t-boned. So need something. You chose the Lariat. Could you have lived with the Frontier? I don't expect to have back-seat passengers often. Kids are grown and gone. Don't do off-roading. I understand the Frontier can be had with a premium package that seems fairly well loaded. I'd welcome your opinion because you have no skin in the game.
As already said, baby seat test is absolutely amazing. Thanks for doing that and keep using that test
Thank you!
Frontier Pro 4x for me all day. Seems to be overall the best "swiss army knife" in the mid-size truck category. Excellent offroading, solid payload capacity and towing, handles nicely on-road as well. Overall was a win for me (and why a brand new 2022 Pro 4x is sitting in my garage right now!)
If I were in the market for a mid-size, this race is tight. I'd take whichever one the dealer would work with me best on, but these two and the Taco make for a strong segment. I am looking forward to the new Ford Ranger. Hopefully there will be a longer wheelbase option to accommodate the four doors and a 6-6.5 foot bed. Things I prefer are locking dif on lower packages, adaptive cruise, and long bed with four full doors, and decent headlights.
That's called a full size truck sadly these days 🤣
@@JFlogerzi Toyota has had the long bed, so has Nissan. Unfortunately they only offered them without the off-road packages.
Agreed wish the 4 door ranger came with a longer bed option.
I bought mine as a driver don't care who sit in the back. But I did get 8 years 100 thousand mile warrant. Put the reviews were great 👍
Give me the more powerful non-turbo V6 any day.
Less payload, less towing, less torque, LOL Nissan definitely is not more powerful.
@@robertchapman4488 but it does the same job on paper, so theres that
Good comparison! Get the Ranger tremor instead of the fx4, it fixes the bouncy suspension and keeps the same payload/towing ratings
or If you already have an fx4 like me just get fox 2.0 package or similar shocks and 32’s. Oh yeah and a tune. I have the Ford Performance one.
@@JonBecker81 I have to say, I love the Tremor seats as well as both being power. The Tremor suspension is ok. It really shines offroad though.
@@JonBecker81 I totally agree with you !
That's the way to and you save a ton of money!
then you buy the tires you want
XLT with 302a gets powered seats as well. Agree stock tremor suspension is great. All others suck. 🤣 ... You don't even need to go 2.0s.. just get Bilstein or Eibach dampers on all 4 corners for 300$ and you will get 90% of any 2.0 upgrade for much less money. The ranger is still the best mid size truck out there. The aftermarket is great. I wish we could get a 6g ranger interior with the 5g exterior.
Nice real world comparison. Hopefully you guys took these on your off-road course for a future comparison video. I’m a Ranger owner and still happy with the decision. I bought before the new Nissan came out but I don’t think I’d change my pick. I test drove the other midsize trucks before I bought and decided on the Ranger. Like you noted, and pretty much every other automotive journalist has as well, the ride is floaty and kind of rocks side to side. Ford should be ashamed of the shocks they installed on the FX4 Rangers. Thankfully this is easily rectified by a set of Bilstein or Eibach shocks for not a ton of money. No a person shouldn’t have to change shocks on a new truck but it in the mail be the truck still rides and handles great and is way more settled.
I have a 2020 XLT ranger and I don’t get the complaints of the ride. It rides like trucks of old which to me I like. I believe we have gotten so used to so called fake trucks being car based we think all of them should be what’s called “composed”. I love the rig and have no complaints. I don’t find much body roll or floaty problems. But that’s me
Love the redesign of the Frontier but I personally have a Ranger and still love that pick up. Looking forward to the refreshed look coming in the near future
I have a 2020 Ranger Lariat FX4 and I do love it. I was coming from a 12 Tacoma TRD off Road. The cab space and head room are SO much better in Ranger and the part i found best was the turbo. I live in Wyoming and at altitude the turbo loses none of it power. SO responsive even as I ascend...I will never go back to NA engines again.
@@drn13355 I live in a city and use to have an F150 but it was such a pain to park and drive through town so I made the switch to the Ranger. I did some foot work and checked out the GM twins and the Tacoma. Maybe I have a bias towards Ford but I didn't like any of them compared to my experience in the Ranger. The Tacoma felt super sluggish to me. The GM twins are alright but I just felt the best in the Ranger. Love this pick up. My only gripe is the tank size. I wish it were a tad larger but I understand the reasoning it is not.
I have a 2022 XLT Supercrew FX4 on order. Should be in by November. Have really high hopes for it
The refresh Ranger is hideous save for the raptor trim, that may be a US 2024 release.
We just got the first deliveries of the refreshed Ranger here in Australia 2 weeks ago, awesome new car.
Bought a '23 frontier SV crew with the long bed 4x4 and love it. Im 6'2 300lbs and it fits me comfortably and I can haul lumber if my guys need a fill in. I want to rave about the adaptive cruise control and outlet + leds in the bed. Its loaded!
My biggest complaints are the stock sound system and for some reason the lean forward/back control is high enough where a bigger guy/gal will hit it with their leg/wallet everytime you get in and out. I thought I was losing my mind baving to re adjust my seat everytime I got back in my truck. Don't regret my purchase one bit and it's the first brand new truck I've ever bought. Right under 42k
I own an older 2018 Frontier and love it! I've also owned two much older Ford Rangers back in the 80's. I know the Nissan has been remodeled and that the Ranger is too and that they're both really different from the trucks I own or have owned.
At the end of the day I think I would pick the Nissan. Sadly that's because I think the Nissan is more inclined to last and hold up better mechanically over the Ford.
My wife and I quit buying the American brand cars back in the 90's because of bad luck with domestic brands (mostly Fords). Prior to that I was a strict buy American made guy. However, I also tend to own my cars well past the pay off date so really want longevity in my vehicles! That has translated to Honda for passenger cars and Nissan for trucks. We have found them to be a great value!
Got 22 Ranger and my child’s seat is front facing, love the power, taking it on its first road trip the summer.
Good review, thanks for sharing. When I bought my 2019 Ranger XLT FX4 2-door, the Frontier was still the (very) old model, I didn't even consider it. My Ranger has over 50k miles now, and I am very happy with it. It's driven long distances on road and quite a bit off-road, both for work and play (I work in agriculture). Does it ride like a truck? Sure it does, but that's what I need. In my opinion, it corners and tracks very well, however. Fuel eficiency is decent, better than all the competitors. Payload and towing capacity are important for me, too, and it beats the competition in both. At 6'1", I sit very comfortable, even on long hauls. My Ranger has only needed regular standard maintenance (oil change & tire rotation every 5000 miles), no repairs needed so far. It's a reliable, tough little truck.
Very good comparison on both trucks. For me I would go for the frontier. Key features cold weather package as standard equipment, very comfortable ride and seats for us 50 and up , and NO stop/start system on it.
It'd be a tough decision for me. I really like both trucks. I traded in a 2019 Frontier Pro-4x for a 2021 Ranger Lariat FX-4. The new Frontier hadn't come out yet and the Ford stealership was willing to give me what I paid for my Frontier so it was a deal. Had the new Frontier been out I would've given it very serious consideration. Neither truck has left me stranded and I'm sure I'd be happy with either one.
I was in this situation 2 months ago. After test driving both multiple times, I feel the powertrain is smoother in the Frontier, but I was much more comfortable in the Ranger, so bought the Tremor. Haven't regretted it yet, except for the shudder issue on take off. Didn't know it was a thing until after I bought it. :-/
Put it in S or hit the tow switch. It helps.
@@mattlee4807 That it does, but I find it tiring to have to do that. Also, I do not like how the truck surges between shifts. (As it it expected a load). I cope, but I'm not happy about this particular issue. It shouldn't be a thing. I'd put a tune on it, but I don't want to void warranties.
@@tracy2928 I understand all of that and have the same issues. I hear there is a Ford tune that only adds about 45 HP and fixes it. And doesn’t void the warranty.
@@mattlee4807 But only has a 3 year powertrain warranty. I have 2 other warranties, one of which is a bumper to bumper for 7 years. That's the one I don't want to void...and getting an answer from someone is like pulling teeth from a shark.
Personally, I’d definitely opt for a relatively loaded Frontier! TBH ~ I’d be elated with a Hybrid Maverick!! Dig the reviews, boyz! God Bless! 🙏
I really appreciate that you did the car seat test.
I have yet to drive the Frontier, but I like its styling! I loved the Ranger when I test drove one and the seats are great too. The thing that really kills the Frontier for me is the no telescoping steering wheel and the new transmission. I like to lean back when I drive and I doubt ill be able to without the wheel moving back. I really hope the transmission does well longevity wise, but I've had Jatco transmissions before and I've never had a good experience with them. Since both are out of my price range due to mark ups in my area, I will be watching the reviews come in on the Frontier from owners and see how it does!
FYI, new transmission and engine came out in the 2020 model year
I’m 5’9” tall, interior space is not an issue for me. I have a 2020 Ranger and love it. I’m interested in the Frontier, but will probably wait for the Ranger Raptor.
I bought the 22 frontier Pro X with luxury package every option except 4x4. But it has the off-road tires and suspension obviously. It’s equivalent to the Tacoma TRD off-road 4x2. Which I have had 2 of those and with the new design of the frontier I figured I would give it a shot. I really appreciate Japanese manufacturing. Only gripe is it doesn’t have the Rear diff locks like the 4x2 TRD off-road. Other than I love it and it’s the most powerful in its class has good pep, which I feel like titans and frontiers have always had.
Frontier all day, for its reliability, modern features and more confident driving dynamics. Also, not everyone needs max carrying capacity and interior space. Larger isn't automatically better, it depends on your personal needs. I am single and rarely have more than 1 other person in the vehicle with me. I also don't tow and 1100 or 1200 payload is more than I'll ever need for DIY projects and camping/traveling. The Frontier is just a better, more modern total package, in my opinion.
Bonjour Truck King,
Thanks for the video. I ended up buying a Ranger with the Tremor package last summer. No regrets whatsoever !
However, as the nissan wasn't available at the time, I'm really looking forward to your review of the offroads capabilities between both of those trucks.
Just got my 2022 Ranger Lariat Fx4, Cactus grey with blackout package. Absolutely love it
The Ranger is the best bottom line small truck out there it blows the doors off of all of them. The 2.3T is amazing!
Payload difference is in the sunroof, premium audio system with 2 amps and a subwoofer, bigger engine, and bed clamp rails lights and power hookup. Nissan has more features and for a lower price.
Excuses excuses. It’s Not cheaper either.
Good comparison but Nissan is all new against an old platform and ford is ahead in all things a truck is made for. Towing capacity, payload capacity, and roomier. Id go ranger and next year in this market no one will choose the frontier over the all new ranger.
@@jimjones9949 or Toyota and GM twins. I think this is a big miss if Ford doesn’t offer a 6ft bed.
I own a 2021 Ranger Base model, and its been an amazing truck to drive! (:
Great job! How about comparing Tacoma, Frontier, and Ranger
I have a 2022 frontier crew rwd and I love it. Does everything I want. Gets it’s epa mpg. If I want more on highway drop to 65mph and get 27mpg 😏
nissan really nailed it on the design, its a beautiful truck
Thank you so much for comparing the payload capacity of the stickers. Most people just read off the online specs which always shows the pro 4x at over 1500.
I bought a Frontier because I loved the style and the options. A big factor is that there was no Ranger available. But the biggest point is that I trust the V6 ahead of the turbo for the long run. The seats are very confortables and it rides nice on the road. If you find the truck crampy, maybe you should look for a F150.
Ty for the review, always a pleasure seeing them ... both are great looking options ... I might sound old but these are midsize trucks ... with a full size sticker price! ... based on these price points, they don't make financial sense as there are full size trucks in these price points with decent features, more payload, more cabin space... even similar mpg too ...
Those full sized trunks don’t fit in my garage after I added storage. They are almost 2 feet longer than these midsized trucks.
I see the Nissan you had the seat leaned back vs the ford was more upright when You were doing the car seat
Great video. Love that you don't do drama and act like a small rock path is going to cause death. Some other channels are drama queens. It would be cool if you did the opposite video now. Compare some extended cabs. Some folks have families, some have no friends. I am considering either a ZR2 extended cab or a Ranger FX4 extended cab. Very litte content on extended cabs, rear seat deletes, etc.
The extended cabs are generally not available to media - but if one comes up we will do it.
I went with the Pro4X over the Ranger. To me better overall driving experience.
Hands down, TK is THE best truck channel out there. It puts TFL to shame!
Nissan is more truck like, firm controls no overly sensitive power steering or braking. performance hearkening to the Hard body days. Very happy with
mine.
I have a 2021 Ranger XLT FX4. The suspension is pretty soft with the FX4 package. A lot of people replace the rear shocks with Eibach, Bilstein, or Fox and takes the wallowing ride out of it. Other than replacing the rear shocks, I love the power and mpgs of the ranger.
I think you should check the average purchase price on TrueCar. Nissan dealers are still playing ball, but Ford dealers act like getting msrp is a steal.
The Frontier looks fantastic, and I like that I could have a full cab and full size bed. I just don’t trust those transmissions
I personally own a 2019 Ranger and 50k miles on it, it’s a fantastic truck. 23-24mpg, have towed 5000lbs without issue and have put 1600lbs in the bed many times. Honestly my biggest complaint is there is no dials for volume/temp control. It’s a terrible design choice.
I love my 2019 Ranger. However, as dumb as it sounds, the number one reason I have thought of replacing it is to get one with much better temperature controls. I drive on single lane, twisty highways daily in all sorts of weather and it is such a distraction having to push the screen buttons or the super small dash ones. I cannot believe the design went into production really. It seems like it is meant to be used on the auto setting but that is not always practical.
After my last truck I'll never own a Ford again. Too many issues and recalls and their so-called fixes for recall items still left one of my major complaints unresolved. The doors would freeze shut in the winter due to water getting into the locking mechanism and if you got them to open then you couldn't get them to shut. They added so-called shields and then lubricated everything inside but still had to deal with this during the winter months.
we'll I would probably wait on the new v6 to make sure it is going to be a good engine the 4 cylinder has been around for while
Good call with the car seat demo. Glad to see that!
good comparison, these 2 are very closely matched. It really comes down to how you are going to use the truck. Generally turbos dont have a long life so that will be something to do/deal with on the ranger but otherwise should be solid as well.
True but ford has nearly a decade to fine tune the ecoboost. And iv seen many ecoboosts with over 135k 150k miles.
The 2.3 eco boost is an old engine and has a lot of life in it. And turbos like all technology have certainly progressed since the 80s, unlike people’s opinions on them.
Great video. One thing on suspension the stock suspension on all trims of the ranger minus the Tremor is garbage. Good thing both Bilstein and eibach makes for under 300$ dampers that replace all 4 corners and allows for some lift which transforms the ride.
Ranger can become a king of all terrains with either of those shocks and struts.
We have a '21 Ranger, and I would agree w/the "floatiness" comment. This seems to be due to the greatly inadequate shocks that Ford uses in the Ranger. Replacing the rear shocks with something decent makes a huge and better difference in handling. I would say that anyone considering the purchase of a Ranger should just plan on spending an extra few hundred bucks on a set of respectable shocks. Installation is fairly easy, and can be done without lifting the vehicle.
Not looking to buy in the next year or so, but I appreciate this tip!
I'd go with the Ford Ranger. I wonder if the Tremor corrects the ride issues? Test drove a non Tremor and I hear you about the ride quality. Lots of head swaying back and forth unloaded normal driving. Could not justify trading my half ton for one at the time.
When we talk price point...I would choose a Ram 1500 classic for the same money !
I guess you like to hang out in service depts..
I watched videos for a month and did a bunch of research before buying my Ranger Tremor. I couldn’t be happier with this truck. And 7,500 towing is great for a mid size truck.
Great video TK. Really informative and great comparison. I am curious though as if I were to buy a midsize truck it would be one of these. You picked the Ranger as it stands now, but knowing what you know would you buy the Ranger now or wait for the new model that is coming soon?
Great, real-world review. I picked the Nissan Frontier (2020) because I am 6', 190lb and I don't give a damn about the comfort of my kids that are old enough to drive their own autos. 20 years ago I would have likely chosen the Ranger.
I've had 1/2 ton trucks and 3/4 ton trucks but if I were shopping today for a midsize truck I think the fuel economy would be a major factor for downsizing. Surprised with the cost of gas there was little to no mention of fuel economy comparisons. I am also quite surprised at the cost of these midsize trucks. Less then 5 years ago I drove home a new Ram 2500 Hemi Big Horn with the offroad package and sport package for $44K USD. Lots of changes in truck prices over the last 5 years.
If your willing downsize you might want to look at the maverick if mpg is huge factor for you
@@Cavemol5823 I agree if you don't need a huge bed, the Ford Maverick simply cannot be beat for a run-around truck.
Power under the curve to the wheels = speed. I own a Ranger so I’m bias but I do appreciate the bed features the Nissan offers. I do get some really great mpg for a mid size truck
I bought a 2021 Ranger. It was down to the Ranger or the Tacoma. On the test drive, both kids fit in the rear seat with forward facing car seats. In the Tacoma my son was behind the drive seat and had his knees in his chest. I'm 6'4" and was surprised when I checked the Ranger out in the showroom and could easily fit behind myself on the passenger side and barely had my knees in the seat in the rear driver side seat. At this time the new Frontier was not out, but I had discounted the old Frontier, Colorado, and Gladiator from research and watching youtube videos, yes this and other channels.
Next just take into account how they drive and the Ranger blew the Tacoma away. Ford really knocked it out of the park in the mid-size market. Load and towing capacity and offroad capability for the price is phenomenal. The fuel economy is also really nice. I'm generally 21 to 23 mpg on my tanks.
I have a 2019 Ranger and I absolutely love it. Best truck I’ve ever had. Powerful, fast, roomy, good mpg. Fixed the “floaty” feel with Fox shocks on rear. This one is a keeper.
@Hector Navarro Yeah thanks for your fake concern, but I’m sure I won’t need it. Not one single issue to date. You, however, will need more than just an extended warranty on your crap-ass toyota. Wonder what will go first, your frame rotting out? Maybe the crappy transmission will drop? Perhaps the ball joints will prematurely wear out? How about a leaky exhaust manifold? Your truck is uncomfortable, underpowered, clunky, and way overpriced, but Fan-Boys like you will never admit that it is a seriously underwhelming truck when compared to the others. I used to drive a taco. 2017 TRD Pro. Worst POS truck I ever owned. But you do you.
I’ve been a ford guy a long time… sold my f150 for a Maverick, hates the maverick so I traded it in for a straight trade for a 23 frontier…. VERY happy, and looks like I’ll be a frontier buyer for a long time.
I’m so glad you tested the rear seat volume with a car seat. Helps me be sure I got the right truck in my ranger.
Great Review/ Comparison
I just hit 2500 miles in my New Toyota Tacoma TRD off road. It's a Dog off the line until about 27+ mph, having said that I'm enjoying most of the Tacoma‘s features.
Really like the styling on the Nissan, if Nissan gave me a great trade in I would seriously consider it.
Great content Elmer's
Keep up the great work 🙏
I've heard of people talking about a pedal controller for the Tacoma to wake it up
I would take either one of these trucks over a Tacoma. Look, I know it's reliable but I couldn't live with one after test driving multiple years since 2016. The transmission is absolute garbage on the interstate, constantly hunting for gears on even the slightest of grades.
I've actually not had the much of an issue with that @ highway speed, it rocked up Donner pass in Kalifornia 3%-6% over 30 miles. It's the low speed driving around town
Im kinda bummed about my tacoma for interstate driving. Any speed limit above 65 mph kills my gas. I found that small highways and dirt roads gave me the best mpg. Kinda miss my old nissan in this respect
Great comparison, I just bought the Frontier.
Personally I would go with the Ranger, mainly because I have a 99 Ranger XL 4x4 with the 3.Slow and the 5 speed manual. Can't go wrong with a 2.3 I4 either.
I do have my niece and nephew to drive around on occasion, and my brother goes sometimes.
Nice testing! I am 6'4" tall, and I don't think I could be an inch taller and still fit in my Frontier.
My 2021 Pro 4X is "arctic blue metallic" in color, and has white tread decals on the left/top of the hood, and on both sides of the bed in the back. I'm not sure, but that might be a comparable "looks" package as the Ranger you tested.
great video man !!!
i was flip flopping between the 2trucks on which one to buy ......lol i landed on the 2022 nissan frontier SV crew cab , love the new front end look on them too which was the deal breaker for me
cheers
Love seeing more Canadian RUclipsrs
I ordered the 22 ranger in the lowest trim and added every feature I wanted, came out cheaper that way and I absolutely love it. That said I have to admit I like the styling on the frontier better for everything except the wheels/tires.