@@shadowsquid1351 and it's usually controlled by state, like of rn if u see whoever scholar speaks against Israel and says the truth that Muslim rulers have abandoned Palestinians they're either jailed or exiled.
As a convert from the Balkans I can’t tell you how much I appreciate this more.. culturally Muslim approach? I don’t know how to place it precisely but so much of what I see feels rooted in the beleoefs of ibn Taymiyya that it gets exhausting.. Keep up the good work
islamic thought has been so diverse for example Al-Ghazali calls ibn sina kafir and after Al-Ghazali Ibn Taymiyya comes and calls Al-Ghazali deviating from islam
Yes there are many moments throughout Islam that reflect a level of misdirection. It's reason that should prevail when we are pulled one way or another by the voices that want to polarise.
We all judge each other. It has nothing to do with Islam. The difference is only in power. When I judge a rich and powerful man, it has no effect because I have no power. But when a rich and powerful man judges me, it has a clear and lasting effect because he has the power to enforce his judgement.
The irony of this video is that by making the claim that takfeer is an unIslamic practice, then the implication is that those who have done takfeer are unIslamic, which essentially makes takfeer upon the practitioner. A kafir, beyond the definition given in the video, is also someone who commits kufr without repentance. A single act of kufr may not make someone a kafir, but a single act of kufr without repentance, remorse and correction may be enough to make someone a kafir. While Takfeer may not be explicitly mentioned in the Quran and Hadith as the presenter pointed out, the action of takfeer and its consequences were directly addressed by Rasul Allah (SAW). As we know, the Prophet pbuh said in a famous saheeh hadith narrated by Abu Hurairah and recorded in Al - Bukhari "If a man says to his btother "O Kafir", one of them is a kafir". This hadith does not expressly condemn takfeer, but gives a strong indication of its consequences - either the person making the claim is basing the claim on solid knowledge based on a criteria set by Allah, or that person is claiming to know the Unseen, including the Judgement and Qadr of Allah, which is an act of kufr, making the person who makes the unsupported claim a kafir. While the use of takfeer is dangerous, fatal and destructive, we have to analyze the basis for why those with knowledge made those specific claims when they did. If we condemn them for it, and the practice as unIslamic, then we are essentially saying that the object of their claims are Muslims, which, in light of the hadith, makes the one making the claim a kafir. Allah knows best.
A major problem here is that we somehow cannot distinguish between the language or rhetoric of a daee (caller) and a jurist. What was Qutb as daee supposed to preach? That with everything islamic undone by the governments it was still somehow islamic, entitled for the abode for the pious. Qutb never engaged in violence himself rather he was a victim of it. Steadfast in his faith somehow still he is the one to be blamed. If Qutb is to be blamed for handful of extremists that might sometimes have quoted him, but those extremists will quote more from the Qur'an and Hadith. I don't think Sayyid Qutb should be blamed for extremism of somebody else.
I dont think it's an issue of blaming. It's more of the extension of license through ideology and in Qutb's case experience. It is true he suffered greatly at the hands of oppression. But his writings do instigate the act of judging Muslims as non believers.
Apostasy, Hypocrisy, Heterodoxy andAtheistism are outside the pale of Islam. And the Ulema had to deal with these issues as they evolved from the basis of the Quran and Sunna starting with the Sahaba. Abu Bakr fought the wars of Apostasy. حروب الردة
How we love being judge jury and executioner, I suppose this comes from the qurans admonition to " enjoin the right and forbid the wrong " take this out of its intended context ( which no one is sure of ) and you have ibn Tamiya fan boys popping up everywhere defending the faith and condemning those who disagree with them. The irony is as ones knowledge increases you begin to see nuances and sutleties in peoples different positions for most want to do right by Allah /God, so let Him be the judge, jury and executioner, good video brother our religion without compassion and reason will become a harsh thing that none muslims detest, we who live in the west sadly see this all around us
I agree but then what happens when a Muslim makes a statement about Allah, His prophet (saws) or islam that is completely against the agreed upon creed? Ibn Sina stated that Allah is limited. That is no small thing. Hamza Youssef (the Scottish PM) stated that homosexuality is halal. If we categorically reject all takfir, we logically deny islam because we are agreeing that we can accept anything nothing is off limits and there are no boundaries.
I listen his lecture of hamza what I understand was that the intention think of having homosexuality is halal but when that think change into action is haram and have punishment Hope you understand
All Muslims believe that people can make Allah angry. If I insult Allah, Allah will be angry with me. In other words, I can control Allah's emotions just by sitting there, I can make him angry, I can even make him attack me. I can do this to my neighbor next door. But I cannot do this to a god because God has no emotions. God cannot be provoked by his own creations in any way. God does not get hungry, sleep, get tired, get angry, see or hear. God is pure intelligence and all knowing. Since God knows everything, He has no need to see, hear, taste or smell. It is absurd to even think that God has such senses.
How can you still only have 24,000 subscribers. RUclips algorithms are rubbish. Your lighting alone should have followers, much less set design and editing, oh and the scripts are not half bad either. lol
the video is wonderful, although it needs a bit of context at some parts, Sayed Qutub was not a cleric or an imam he was a writer and a philosopher, who studied in the west, one of his students Najeeb Mahfouz won the noble prize, however his disagreements with the socialist toleration dictator Abdul Nasser resulted in his unjust imprisonment/torture, and then his death by hanging, while in prison he wrote a book where he deemed every silent satisfied citizen helping the dictator/regime as kafir, and he deemed that the nation has become so corrupt that you should isolate your self's into secret groups and if you don't join such a group you are a kafir and that thought was the root for groups like altakfeer and el hijra who from them stemmed aljama3a al islamia and then they were shipped to Afghanistan to fight the soviets where they turned there into al-Qaida and then ISIS with each one more extreme than the other, i definitely don't agree with his extreme opinion but knowing the cause and context is important....
Bravo Kandari!!!!! Another writing by a genius of deep thought and wisdom. I wish our species would create one universal religion which once-and-for-all makes religious condemnations and punishments illegal. Yes, ILLEGAL. Surely we are all brothers and sisters, and are all equal children of the one universal Source. Surely we are capable of acknowledging and renouncing our dangerous religious differences, and our dangerous religious fallacies, and our dangerous religious vanities, and our dangerous religious delusions. Surely we are capable of becoming free to be ONE people, ONE family, ONE congregation of lovers of the One Light.
@@thekandarichronicles - Faith or whatever other form of spirituality is personal, religion is socio-political. Let me explain: your personal faith is different from any other Muslim, even those close to your own ideas, they can't ever be the same, first and foremost because faith is experienced at personal and not collective level.
Al ghazali only targeted those philosophers that denied the universe being finite, resurrection, universal and particular other than that he encouraged kalam philosophy, mathematics, medicine and other science He had only problems with neo-platonism, some aspects of Aristotle's philosophy
True. His mention in the video reflects the slow expansion of excommunication as it transition from one Muslim to the virtual entirety of the Muslim people in the case of the religious extremist movements.
Would you be willing to do videos that counter what the naysayers say about issues in the Quran like in this video ruclips.net/video/9dDrCTTthwo/видео.htmlsi=LmB3rTaujke0RrFm
Important video! Takfir is a tool used for power/political/social gain, usually in ignorant societies.
It's unfortunately all over our societies to be honest.
@@shadowsquid1351 takfir is always in among the students of knowledge and scholars than the common masses. But they do participate In the bandwagon.
@@shadowsquid1351 and it's usually controlled by state, like of rn if u see whoever scholar speaks against Israel and says the truth that Muslim rulers have abandoned Palestinians they're either jailed or exiled.
@@thekandarichronicles
Hebrew Bible has lots of Arabic words. "Bismillah", "Ayatollah", "Abdullah", "Muhammed", "Islam", Muslim", "Quran", "Hajj", "Masjid" are all Biblical Hebrew words.
@@SalmaShalomSo now you're just pulling nonsense out of thin air, huh? Not shocking at all, especially coming from a Jew like you
As a convert from the Balkans I can’t tell you how much I appreciate this more.. culturally Muslim approach? I don’t know how to place it precisely but so much of what I see feels rooted in the beleoefs of ibn Taymiyya that it gets exhausting.. Keep up the good work
Rooted in beliefs of Ibn Taymiyya? What do you mean by that? You dare say Ibn Taymiyya was an extremist?
"No one but Allah can judge" this is about legislation/hakimiyyah
islamic thought has been so diverse for example Al-Ghazali calls ibn sina kafir and after Al-Ghazali Ibn Taymiyya comes and calls Al-Ghazali deviating from islam
Yes there are many moments throughout Islam that reflect a level of misdirection. It's reason that should prevail when we are pulled one way or another by the voices that want to polarise.
Good work with these videos 👍🏽
We all judge each other. It has nothing to do with Islam. The difference is only in power. When I judge a rich and powerful man, it has no effect because I have no power. But when a rich and powerful man judges me, it has a clear and lasting effect because he has the power to enforce his judgement.
It was needed in times of division like now. Engaging and informative video. Thank a lot
The irony of this video is that by making the claim that takfeer is an unIslamic practice, then the implication is that those who have done takfeer are unIslamic, which essentially makes takfeer upon the practitioner. A kafir, beyond the definition given in the video, is also someone who commits kufr without repentance. A single act of kufr may not make someone a kafir, but a single act of kufr without repentance, remorse and correction may be enough to make someone a kafir. While Takfeer may not be explicitly mentioned in the Quran and Hadith as the presenter pointed out, the action of takfeer and its consequences were directly addressed by Rasul Allah (SAW). As we know, the Prophet pbuh said in a famous saheeh hadith narrated by Abu Hurairah and recorded in Al - Bukhari "If a man says to his btother "O Kafir", one of them is a kafir". This hadith does not expressly condemn takfeer, but gives a strong indication of its consequences - either the person making the claim is basing the claim on solid knowledge based on a criteria set by Allah, or that person is claiming to know the Unseen, including the Judgement and Qadr of Allah, which is an act of kufr, making the person who makes the unsupported claim a kafir. While the use of takfeer is dangerous, fatal and destructive, we have to analyze the basis for why those with knowledge made those specific claims when they did. If we condemn them for it, and the practice as unIslamic, then we are essentially saying that the object of their claims are Muslims, which, in light of the hadith, makes the one making the claim a kafir. Allah knows best.
you clearly didn't watch the video till the end
UnIslamic does not mean Kafir.
@@hassanmirza2392 A very big stretch by the commenter indeed
This video really hits close to home, We’ll all be looking forward to your next video.
So, religion of peace, how's it going? Yeah...
Great to watch
Thank you, brother. This was an amazingly enlightening video.
Religion seems to be a source of discord and division rather than of unity and harmony.
Religion has the potential for both extremes. Because religion is managed by humans. Faith on the other hand...
Indeed because it's dogma, totalitarianism.
Yes it is bc many times whithout religion we are like animals
@ how like animals? Do animals slaughter millions over words like ‘heretic’ and ‘infidel’? Do animals have inquisitions, jihads, crusades, Zionism??
@@Nom_AnorVSJedi people dispute and follow their own desires.
After this , some in the comments will add you to the list of Ali (R) , abu hanifa , Ibn sina
The "some" are always there. be it on the topic of Takfir or other. Can't get away from those who want to judge.
Takfeer is from K-f-R root same root as K-P-R in Hebrew. Takfeer is used in the Hebrew Bible. K-P-R root is "Kippur". From Yom Kippur.
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A major problem here is that we somehow cannot distinguish between the language or rhetoric of a daee (caller) and a jurist. What was Qutb as daee supposed to preach? That with everything islamic undone by the governments it was still somehow islamic, entitled for the abode for the pious. Qutb never engaged in violence himself rather he was a victim of it. Steadfast in his faith somehow still he is the one to be blamed.
If Qutb is to be blamed for handful of extremists that might sometimes have quoted him, but those extremists will quote more from the Qur'an and Hadith.
I don't think Sayyid Qutb should be blamed for extremism of somebody else.
I dont think it's an issue of blaming. It's more of the extension of license through ideology and in Qutb's case experience. It is true he suffered greatly at the hands of oppression. But his writings do instigate the act of judging Muslims as non believers.
According to this guy, you better not make Takfir of Iblis.
This was very informative and an important video, thanks a lot I learned something new.
Apostasy, Hypocrisy, Heterodoxy andAtheistism are outside the pale of Islam. And the Ulema had to deal with these issues as they evolved from the basis of the Quran and Sunna starting with the Sahaba. Abu Bakr fought the wars of Apostasy. حروب الردة
This is really important. Great explanation
Glad you enjoyed @xCoolverine. Always appreciate your presence.
Great job 👍💐
Thank you! Cheers!
such approach to this topic is way overdue, may Allah bless all your effort
Christian accusations of heresy and apostasy (excommunication) had MASSIVE consequences, including the death penalty
Great
Thank you Alex!
How we love being judge jury and executioner, I suppose this comes from the qurans admonition to " enjoin the right and forbid the wrong " take this out of its intended context ( which no one is sure of ) and you have ibn Tamiya fan boys popping up everywhere defending the faith and condemning those who disagree with them. The irony is as ones knowledge increases you begin to see nuances and sutleties in peoples different positions for most want to do right by Allah /God, so let Him be the judge, jury and executioner, good video brother our religion without compassion and reason will become a harsh thing that none muslims detest, we who live in the west sadly see this all around us
Indeed we do @zak992. Compassion seems to have gradually taken a back seat.
Bible also a phrase Hallelullah/HallelAllah "Praise to Allah" (similar to Hallelujah) Psalm 147:12.
If it looks like a duck, if it walks like a duck, and if it sounds like a duck, does it need man' judgment to say its a duck?
لَّا تَجِدُ قَوْمًۭا يُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلْـَٔاخِرِ يُوَآدُّونَ مَنْ حَآدَّ ٱللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُۥ وَلَوْ كَانُوٓا۟ ءَابَآءَهُمْ أَوْ أَبْنَآءَهُمْ أَوْ إِخْوَٰنَهُمْ أَوْ عَشِيرَتَهُمْ ۚ أُو۟لَـٰٓئِكَ كَتَبَ فِى قُلُوبِهِمُ ٱلْإِيمَـٰنَ وَأَيَّدَهُم بِرُوحٍۢ مِّنْهُ ۖ وَيُدْخِلُهُمْ جَنَّـٰتٍۢ تَجْرِى مِن تَحْتِهَا ٱلْأَنْهَـٰرُ خَـٰلِدِينَ فِيهَا ۚ رَضِىَ ٱللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ وَرَضُوا۟ عَنْهُ ۚ أُو۟لَـٰٓئِكَ حِزْبُ ٱللَّهِ ۚ أَلَآ إِنَّ حِزْبَ ٱللَّهِ هُمُ ٱلْمُفْلِحُونَ
(58:22)
I agree but then what happens when a Muslim makes a statement about Allah, His prophet (saws) or islam that is completely against the agreed upon creed?
Ibn Sina stated that Allah is limited. That is no small thing. Hamza Youssef (the Scottish PM) stated that homosexuality is halal. If we categorically reject all takfir, we logically deny islam because we are agreeing that we can accept anything nothing is off limits and there are no boundaries.
I listen his lecture of hamza what I understand was that the intention think of having homosexuality is halal but when that think change into action is haram and have punishment
Hope you understand
All Muslims believe that people can make Allah angry. If I insult Allah, Allah will be angry with me. In other words, I can control Allah's emotions just by sitting there, I can make him angry, I can even make him attack me.
I can do this to my neighbor next door.
But I cannot do this to a god because God has no emotions. God cannot be provoked by his own creations in any way. God does not get hungry, sleep, get tired, get angry, see or hear. God is pure intelligence and all knowing. Since God knows everything, He has no need to see, hear, taste or smell. It is absurd to even think that God has such senses.
How can you still only have 24,000 subscribers. RUclips algorithms are rubbish. Your lighting alone should have followers, much less set design and editing, oh and the scripts are not half bad either. lol
That is both humbling and totally hilarious @enkaiscott. "the scripts are not half bad either." Classic!
the video is wonderful, although it needs a bit of context at some parts, Sayed Qutub was not a cleric or an imam he was a writer and a philosopher, who studied in the west, one of his students Najeeb Mahfouz won the noble prize, however his disagreements with the socialist toleration dictator Abdul Nasser resulted in his unjust imprisonment/torture, and then his death by hanging, while in prison he wrote a book where he deemed every silent satisfied citizen helping the dictator/regime as kafir, and he deemed that the nation has become so corrupt that you should isolate your self's into secret groups and if you don't join such a group you are a kafir and that thought was the root for groups like altakfeer and el hijra who from them stemmed aljama3a al islamia and then they were shipped to Afghanistan to fight the soviets where they turned there into al-Qaida and then ISIS with each one more extreme than the other, i definitely don't agree with his extreme opinion but knowing the cause and context is important....
note the novel Najeeb Mahfouz won the noble prize for was deemed as kufr by some groups and they tried to kill him due to it....
It was the kharwaj that takfirs
"Nation of G-d" Hezb is Ge'ez ሕዝብ (ḥəzb, “nation”) in Ethiopian Jewish Bible and Hebrew word is Eloah/Allah is for G-d.
Bravo Kandari!!!!! Another writing by a genius of deep thought and wisdom. I wish our species would create one universal religion which once-and-for-all makes religious condemnations and punishments illegal. Yes, ILLEGAL. Surely we are all brothers and sisters, and are all equal children of the one universal Source. Surely we are capable of acknowledging and renouncing our dangerous religious differences, and our dangerous religious fallacies, and our dangerous religious vanities, and our dangerous religious delusions. Surely we are capable of becoming free to be ONE people, ONE family, ONE congregation of lovers of the One Light.
South Africans at 00:38 be like 😳
Conclusion: religion is hopeless.
Humans' interpretations of faith can be misguided.
@@thekandarichronicles - Faith or whatever other form of spirituality is personal, religion is socio-political.
Let me explain: your personal faith is different from any other Muslim, even those close to your own ideas, they can't ever be the same, first and foremost because faith is experienced at personal and not collective level.
Arabic name "Amirullah". Genesis 1:3 = Admiral-ullah / Admiral Elohim. Admiral = Amir.
Al ghazali only targeted those philosophers that denied the universe being finite, resurrection, universal and particular other than that he encouraged kalam philosophy, mathematics, medicine and other science
He had only problems with neo-platonism, some aspects of Aristotle's philosophy
True. His mention in the video reflects the slow expansion of excommunication as it transition from one Muslim to the virtual entirety of the Muslim people in the case of the religious extremist movements.
I disagree
What is this channel
A Progressive who believes in a very disneyfied version of islam, but does make good quality videos tho.
@ ooooof audubillah
Kandari = 🇮🇱
And there you go... judgement. Enough said.
@@tardechuvosa5505 he is a brother how can u call a muslim with such name u should be ashamed of yourself
May allah guide u
@@thekandarichronicles Kol ‘od balevav penimah // Nefesh Yehudi homiyah, ...
@@skullnetwork4482 May ALLAH SWT guide YOU! ruclips.net/video/EHcCvGt6wmA/видео.html
Tardechuvosa5505 = 💩 😆. Sorry, had to. Dung was mentioned in the video
Would you be willing to do videos that counter what the naysayers say about issues in the Quran like in this video ruclips.net/video/9dDrCTTthwo/видео.htmlsi=LmB3rTaujke0RrFm