That scene when Tony sees his parents get get killed is so well acted, Robert showing the anger building, Sebastian showing the guilt and shame of his actions and Chris showing the conflict of being stuck in the middle between the two, great film!
@@academyofshem his point was just that everything is easily fixed if we try to understand in another perspective. Understanding in another perspective is not that much mental gymnastics lol, not everyhting is a plothole.
@@jbonceu2457 When your plot is based on a security camera that is filming a random rural road in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE back in 1991 before CCTV was really a thing on roads, well... It's all make believe. Don't sweat it.
@@academyofshem Wasnt Tonys parents on their way to or from a shield base? Howad had managed to recreate the super soldier serum or at the very least he was transporting it to one of their bases with the hopes of takling to shield officials about the super serums future. Honestly cant remeber how much of that is stated in the movie and how much is fan theories but i know i read it somewhere before or saw a video presenting this theory.
How dare the government try and blame the Avengers for the attack on New York, when the government was trying to fire a nuke at the city that still had civilians?
Wasn't the government man!!! Its a common misconception, It was the shield high council full of undercover Hydra guys... They explore that in the agents of shield show!!
well their idea is without the avengers there would be no need for the avengers which is a pretty fair way of looking at things, i mean thats a common moral throughout superhero movies in general, almost ever villain stems from the the branches formed in creating said superhero, it's supposed to be a dramatic take on things that happen in our world today with war machines.
It didn't me, because Tony only ever considered Cap a friend when he was trying to convince him of something. And he turned on Cap and all their beliefs in a heartbeat when it was either that or face up to the fact that HE and HE ALONE screwed up. That HE, Tony, needs adult supervision, not the Avengers as a team. Tony is an Asshat, pure and simple.
I Love How Peter Parker doesn't stop talking even in the middle of a fight also Chadwick boseman was getting cancer treatment during the filming of this so despite his discomfort and doing most of his own stunts kind of made him a real life Avenger....R.I.P. Chadwick boseman.
@@loganbigmo ok I stand corrected but he still would have had cancer before diagnosis and the pain that goes with it I know from experience from a family member so it still made him a hard ass.
I like it too, but this is easily one the Marvel movies that gets talked about the most. Most people pretty much consider it Avengers 2.5, so I'm not sure I get what you mean.
It's easily the 3rd best movie. Infinity war and Endgame are in tier 1 and I think Civil War and No way home are also in tier 1. Then tier 2 there is Avengers/Guardians/WinterSoldier/Black Panther/Ragnarok/Shang-Chi.
@@aaronboone8097 Nah 1. Infinity War 2. Spider-Man NWH 3. Captain America: The Winter Soldier 4. the Avengers 4. Iron Man 1 5. Guardians of the Galaxy 6. Avengers: Endgame (a huge favorite of mine but still isn’t top 5) 7. Thor: Ragnarok 8. Spider-Man: Homecoming 9. Captain America: Civil War 10. Captain America: The First Avenger 11. Black Panther 12. Doctor Strange I haven’t seen Shang-Chi so I can’t rate it but I hear it’s like Black Panther tier. This is my list for best MCU movies, I might have missed one but that’s pretty much how I would rate the top 12.
"God gave people free will and they chose to live in OHIO?!?" I've never been to Ohio, but that one hurt even me. But to paraphrase the song, "At least it's not Detroit." 🤣
I always loved the nuance in “I didn’t *_know_* it was him” and the later “I can see now, I was really sparing myself”. Really gives a great insight into the denial Steve was in and how his connection to Bucky clouded his judgment, preventing him from facing the obvious truth until Tony forced him to be honest with himself and what he always suspected. Sadly, that humanization gets lost on most people.
Well, the truth wasnt OBVIOUS per sae. Anybody in hydra could have killed the Starks. Just because it was PROBABLY Bucky doesnt mean that Steve had the proof that it was him. The only thing that was obvious was Hydra's connection to the Starks death which was hinted at in Winter Soldier. This is what Cap knew. So when Cap said "I didn't *it was him*" he isn't lying, but he did know of course that the Starks' deaths were no accident which is why he replies "Yes"
@@insertnamehere2746 then why when stark asked did he said “yes” why didn’t he say “anyone in hydra could have killed the starks, just because it was probably Bucky doesn’t mean I had the proof” Because he knew and you get told he knew, not suspected.
I'm not even sure you could strictly call him a "villain". "Anti-hero", maybe. He's using extreme but arguably necessary measures (and, moreover, measures made necessary by the Avengers' own refusal to submit to accountability from the people they effectively rule) to destroy the threat that killed his family so it can't harm others. Wouldn't take much to make him at least the protagonist of the piece.
Great reaction! A couple reasons why this is arguably the best mcu movie. Introduces spider man, black panther and zemo, Wanda and vision become closer, we find out how Tony’s parents died and who killed them, and also find out the avengers aren’t innocent when it comes to civilian casualties. It’s insane they managed to pack all of this into one movie and actually make it work.
Especially since the avengers don't make a collective decision. The fact that everyone has a different opinion on it and it spreads to all the other movies is just amazing.
One other aspect that l loke about behind the scenes of Civilwar was that they had 2 scripts, one with spiderman added and the other one without him in it because when working on Civilwar war they were right in the middle of the deal with sony and marvel studio.
For me, the heart of the conflict was what always interested me about this movie. Should the Avengers be held accountable? I think they should hold themselves accountable and that trusting a government with constantly changing agendas and the potential lives missed because of government dependence is too much a risk. Cap was betrayed by the government in WS so it makes sense why he wouldn't sign the Sokovia Accords
Civil War is still my number one MCU film. It just had me emotionally invested all the way and the fighting choreography was intense. I’m way too hyped for Doctor strange: multiverse of madness!
What are your top mcu films? Mine are 1-cap America the winter soldier (since 2014) 2-gotg vol 1 3-spiderman homecoming 4-shang-chi 5-black panther (had a good script and killmonger)
This movie was so fucking intense. Bucky is my favorite. Some people will lose their family and friends but to lose your free will is devastating. To be controlled to do the worst thing possible which is end someone's life. Bucky was tormented mentally and physically for almost a century. The guilt he feels is heavy. And knowing he could be controlled again makes him want to freeze himself. I just try to remember Bucky before he was captured. The guy who stuck by Little Steve when everyone else looked over him. Which inspired Steve to be the idealistic Captain he is now.
I love the fact that Maple is such a sensitive person ... She literally feels the emotion... Her tears always fall during the most emotional scenes ... Thank u for taking us on this journey one more time ... I would love to meet her one day. .. if not in this life maybe in d next.. il find u ❤️
"Is that what he (Robert Downey, Jr.) looked like?" Yep...you need to watch Weird Science, so you can actually see what he looked like around that same age.
@@VColossalV I knew I was forgetting someone. Visually - almost as good as Molina & Dafoe. Whenever he had to move with alacrity - obviously 70 years old. See also DeNiro in The Irishman
@@snowdenwyatt6276 Also Sir Anthony Hopkins in the first Thor movie, the scene when he has the missing eye and the scene when he was with a young Loki and Thor.
Yeah, the Captain America movies are especially viscerally brutal in their physicality. Even when they block a knife or something, it just has this hard, crisp feeling that you sense in your gut every time. Love it!
I like how they make all the collateral damage a real part of the story of the MCU. Most superhero franchises just skate right over all the innocent deaths.
Actually it's opposite. It took this many films for MCU to finally talk about it. While Dceu made this their central conflict after the first film. Incredibles had this as one of their main plot point and X-Men Universe is vaguely about this
Actually it's opposite. It took this many films for MCU to finally talk about it. While Dceu made this their central conflict after the first film. Incredibles had this as one of their main plot point and X-Men Universe is vaguely about this
@@aaxyz9990 That's true but even with it at the center of DC's themes, their films are fundamentally flawed. Wonder Woman and Aquaman in particular have awful arcs and their characters don't undergo any meaningful change. I'd say Amazon's the Boys does a better job at making social commentary on collateral damage better than any other existing comic book franchise.
@@mowgli6345 this was never about which films have better arcs and which are better. MCU is clearly ahead. Just saying what you said in the first comment is wrong
And a bit closer to the civil war comics!! would have made Cap's position wayy stronger!! The movie has weak reasoning for Cap's problems with the accords which is why they have the whole bucky killed tony's parents gambit here to justify the rivalry a bit more!! I love the Russo brother's but i feel like this was a missed opportunity
The only reason War Machine got hurt is because Tony refused to back down…and when you are dealing with people with this much power, someone is bound to get hurt. I’ve NEVER believed the State should supersede the individual. And giving people with a conscious the forced options of being a worker for the State, retiring to let others do the work of protecting people or becoming a criminal is the wrong thing to do. THIS is why I FULLY agree with Captain America!!!
38:30 - In Winnter Soldier, Natasha wore a high-tech face mask that made her look like one of the Security Council. How could nobody even entertain the notion that the guy on the grainy surveillance footage who kinda looked like Bucky might not actually be Bucky? Instead, everybody simply refused to even listen to Cap long enough for him to tell them that it wasn't Bucky who blew up the UN. meeting in Vienna.
Both Cap and Tony is right. Without the accords, they will essentially be international fugitives, unable to help anyone officially. Imagine a bunch of people with powers doing whatever they want in a city. Its all fine and dainty if everyone has a moral compass like Cap but what about those that don't? Tony is right about needing oversight, but their oversight people could be corrupted too. *Flashback to Hydra being in every level of Shield. There's is no good solution here which makes this film great
That's why Cap it's the leader, to oversight the Avengers and the new people that might come. Whatever they want? They're there for a reason. The Accords don't stop the murder and chaos, just validate the actions making the saving process WAY slower, do you remember how in the movie Tony said "Sign this and we would validate the 24 hrs prior"? We already watch how much good they did and it's like pretending police don't fuck up sometimes. Even while the directors tried to balance the ideals, Cap is clearly on the right.
Tony is right about HIM needing oversight, not the Avengers. After all Ultron and Sokovia was his fault and he did it behind everyone's back (except Bruce)
@@OsSas3 yeah but it's about the principle. + if they do it act illegally, nothing really distinguish them from the bad guys. but the accords aren't great either, which is basically the point of the movie and what makes it good. like, there is no team especially wrong or right
@@illyana3537 Act illegally doing what? Hurting innocent people? Trying to take over the world? They're the answer to the villains, I don't understand that logic, they're clearly different from the bad guys
@@SchulzEricT Exactly. Tony is driven exclusively by guilt and PTSD. He doesn't want to find the best moral solution, he just wants to feel better, so he decides someone else can be in charge of his decisions, so when it goes wrong in the future, then he can blame them rather than himself. He's a coward.
My favourite part of dialogue is at Peggy's funeral, when Sharon gives her speech because they pulled some of it from the comics. In Amazing Spider-man #537, Spider-man asks Cap how he deals with the feeling when it seems like the country is against you & Cap's response is, "Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: The requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world - No, YOU move.”
The "You move" speech gives me goosebumps because it covers so much of Cap's character. As big and iconic as he is and as a symbol of America he is, he's our country's ideals and not its government. Giving people a voice and having us stand up for what we believe in. The way Cap brings out the best in people is what makes him so great. Once a scrawny man whose greatest strength is his character. A hero from the past whose ideals transcend its time
11:32 This is where Tony goes wrong for me, personally. I understand the world's crying out for some order, but in the end - Tony is doing this for selfish reasons. He can't stomach the blowback of his own decisions - decisions he makes to try and help people that were dangerous. Spencer died because of Ultron. Ultron was Tony's creation. Tony created Ultron to help protect the world against threats like Loki. Tony has shown that he will compromise when he shouldn't, bend or break rules when he shouldn't - and cave when he shouldn't, when it comes to saving lives. Cap just won't do that. Cap would never have created Ultron in the first place - and he sure as shit won't hand over control of the Avengers to the UN. Not after what he saw with the downfall of SHIELD. The opposing side isn't insane, but I think it's ultimately wrong. Or, at the very least, Tony is agreeing with the Accords for the wrong reasons. If I was at that table, I'd hope I had the stomach to suggest that maybe Tony is problem. I suspect if Ultron hadn't been created, the Accords would have never come to pass. Or at least, they'd have been delayed, or softened. All that being said, I think that's the beauty of this film and why it's one of the best in the MCU - and one of the best superhero films ever made: it forces a critical issue, and demands that you really think about it. There's a lot to talk about in Civil War, and the Accords are just the beginning of it.
Yes, that's what Robert Downey Jr. looked like in his youth, in his older movies, which undoubtedly was where they got the CGI model for his younger face.
"How are they doing these things without getting hurt?" - Well in this fictional universe, there's Vibranium... basically a metal that's impervious to just about anything. In that way, it's similar to fictional materials like Adamantium, Beskar Steel, Mithril, or Valyrian Steel. But of course there's always the strongest and best armor of them all... "plot armor".
What drives me crazy in this movie is Tony acting all self-righteous when he's the one who created Ultra without telling anyone else. That woman's child wouldn't have died if Tony had talked through his idea with Steve and the others before doing it but he doesn't and Ultra almost destroyed the world. And throughout this entire movie he's acting like Steve is in the wrong for wanting to keep his freedom when it's Tony's fault that freedom is threatened.
you forget, ultron was in like start up testing phase, when he suddenly came into being. Tony was running simulations, he told jarvis let me know when one works/done, and when one miraculously worked. jarvis got taken out.
Which is exactly why he is being like this in the movie. He takes responsibility and knows that he needs some form of oversight. Remember that its exactly tha freedom that accidentally created the monster that was Ultron.
Tony has a habit of overreacting and over correcting in the opposite direction. A lot of his worst decisions stem from him being very reactionary and volatile.
One small cool thing I noticed in the beginning with the Avengers is that they disguise their chatter with their coffee mugs and take a sip to act like they are really thirsty. They only drink after they talk to each other through their ear pieces, specifically Wanda since she’s out in the open
They mentioned New York, Washington, D.C, Sokovia, and Lagos, but there's also Thor's battle with Malekith in London, Hulk vs Hulkbuster in Johannesburg, and the Avengers vs Ultron and his sentries in Seoul.
In this movie, Brock Rumlow has fully become the supervillain Crossbones. Note the white X on his outfit. And R.I.P. William Hurt (Secretary of State Ross), March 20, 1950 - March 13, 2022 (age 71).
Bucky is exactly what the Accords seek to turn the Avengers into. And the pro-Accords forces spend the entire movie trying to murder him for it. While the anti-Accords "outlaws" try to protect Bucky from summary execution justified solely by suspicion.
@@flatebo1 Exactly! Personally, I thought having Secretary Ross-who was a whole-ass villain in a previous movie-pushing the Accords should have been a flashing red warning to viewers from the very moment they're suggested, but I guess some people have short memories.
@@noodle_fc As I've noted elsewhere (in this thread, I think) Thunderbolt Ross is the embodiment of the US military as a supervillain. And Iron Man is the embodiment of US military tech as a superhero. Seems a bit odd that Stark, who told the US government to get stuffed in IM2 when they wanted to nationalize his Iron Man tech, would be willing to turn over all of his Iron Man stuff to the frickin' UN. And the whole "Well, if we sign we'll have leverage to change the rules to something more manageable4" is simply delusional. If you sign, you throw away your only leverage. Then they take your toys and give them to someone more compliant if you get uppity.
@@flatebo1 See, I don't think that's odd. From the very first MCU movie, Tony's development has been from someone who doesn't give a shit to someone who tries to do the right thing. But part of doing the right thing is dealing with mistakes. At the beginning of Iron Man 2, Tony hasn't made any serious mistakes (acting as Iron Man) yet. This movie is constructed incredibly well. First thing that happens: Cap, Sam, Wanda (and Nat) use their powers to avert a terrible outcome, but something goes wrong and innocents die. Later, Cap tells Wanda yeah, that sucks, but you live with it, you save who you can, when you can. Next thing: Tony has guilt and regret about his last interaction with his parents. Charlie's mom blames him for Ultron and Sokovia, and he carries guilt for that, too. He wants a way out from under that guilt, something that feels better than the advice Wanda got, i.e., make the best decision you can, then make peace with both the good and bad consequences. As Steve says of the accords, "this document just shifts the blame" (from them to whomever tells them what to do). That is _exactly_ why it appeals to Tony. He doesn't want to feel guilt over whatever might go wrong the next time the Avengers act.
@@noodle_fc This is 100% correct. Tony doesn't want the Accords because he morally believes they are the right idea. He just wants to be able to feel better and have someone to blame for the next fuck up, rather than himself.
watching these makes me so sad because of Chadwick Boseman passing.. he was such an amazing actor and from what i've seen a great person, Black Panther will never feel the same
Captain America 2&3 and Avengers Infinity War is the peek of storytelling and plot in the MCU. To be honest, they are some of the best movies in terms of storytelling and plot in general
Cap saved his two friends. He saved one from being murdered, and he saved the other from becoming a murderer. General Ross is the biggest idiot in all of the MCU. Literally everything he does is wrong. Especially the Sokovia Accords. He should be court-martialed, dishonorably discharged, and put in prison for the rest of his life. I apologize to idiots for comparing him to them. Marvel's perennial motto: "With great power must also come great responsibility." Sokovia Accords: "With great power comes someone else's responsibility."
Bucky is one of my favorite characters in the MCU and Sebastian Stan plays him beautifully. It’s funny that over the course of 10 years and all his appearances in the Infinity Saga movies, Bucky only has 4-5 mins of dialogue, the rest is just Sebastian’s talent for facial expressions and body language to convey all that emotion. Superb performance!
That quote from Peggy was actually in the comics, but it was Captain America talking to Spider-Man, and it was a bit longer. I like the quote, but it can be used by people who are definitively in the wrong to justify not changing their stance. Cap was trying to tell Peter that sometimes the world *is* wrong, but others often take it to mean that everyone else is *always* wrong.
One of my biggest gripes is when the mother of the dead son is all, "Who's going to avenge my son?" Um, they killed Ultron. He was avenged. You need to learn what the word avenge means, lady.
But it was their destruction that caused his death, they may have stopped Ultron but at the cost of countless lives including her son and Zemo’s family and imo their insults/revenge was completely justified
@@quietdemon8138 Had they not stopped Ultron, all of humanity would have been exterminated. So, no, their insults/revenge was wholly unjustified because it is wholly misplaced. Ultron is responsible for the destruction in Sokovia. Ultron chose Sokovia as the location for his planet-killer meteor. None of the Avengers did. On the other hand, Stark is responsible for Ultron. But only Stark. Absent his reckless meddling with the Mind Stone, Ultron would not have existed. But that no more makes Stark responsible for Ultron's actions/choices than a parent is responsible for the actions/choices of their adult offspring. Every single example of the destruction "caused" by the Avengers is an example of the Avengers trying to limit the destruction others, notably the various villains, are trying to cause. When trying to stop another from committing an atrocity, you do not become responsible for the damage they succeed in causing. And it's especially galling that Ross brings up the invasion of NYC when the World Security Council (i.e. HYDRA) tried to end the invasion by *nuking* *New* *York*.
@@flatebo1 you do realize this is several governments that want to impose their will on a group of good people. This isn't a rational decision it's an attempt to force the avengers under their boot.
@@devinsteele2424 It's the majority of world governments that want to impose their will upon a group of people through the UN. Y'know, the UN doesn't have its own military. They rely on member countries sending military forces to work under the UN banner. The Accords would give the UN a small army of superpowered people under the UN's sole authority. An UN army which, through the Hulk alone, would outclass pretty much every military in the world. (It's especially hilarious given that, in IM2, Stark basically told the US government to get fucked when *they* tried to nationalize his Iron Man tech. And he's just going to turn over complete control to the UN?) Considering the kind of extremely criminal conduct that the UN has historically engaged in, and further considering that the UN leadership is quite often rather hostile to the US, giving the UN complete authority over all superpeople everywhere on Earth - including Thor, the prince and heir apparent of an alien race of gods - is about the single stupidest thing anyone could possibly propose. We're supposed to trust an organization whose president in the 1970s was literally a former Nazi (and likely HYDRA in the MCU)? No. If the Avengers violated any law, charge them under existing legislation. Even the incident which kicks off the action in Civil War did not result in anyone anywhere bringing charges against Wanda - despite the biased narrative that *she*, not Rumlow, was the one responsible for the Wakandan Embassy deaths. I'd also point out that, under the Accords, Wakanda would become the property of the UN. The entire nations is stuffed full of super-tech and a super-metal - vibranium. If the Accords places Falcon (a US ex-soldier using US military tech) under the authority of the UN, then it also places all of Wakanda under the control of the UN. Wakanda would have signed away its sovereignty, and placed T"challa specifically completely under the UN's authority.
@@flatebo1 I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just pointing out something you didn't say in your comment. I think it's very realistic in how it depicts an irrational decision making process that has no clear answer. You can only pick the lesser of 2 evils in some situations.
The collateral damage wasn't what was wrong about Sokovia. Tony creating that murder-bot Ultron was what was wrong, and that's on him, not the Avengers.
BS, Steve, you were sparing Bucky from getting murdered in revenge, as well as Tony from becoming his murderer (or getting killed in the process). Tony fought Steve because he wouldn't sign the Accords that Tony later violated in more than one way, and then when he was attempting to murder Bucky. Steve saved them both, but Tony will continue hating him regardless. Tony has always hated Steve anyway because Howard Stark admired Steve. That's pure jealousy. At least Tony didn't interfere with Steve freeing the better half of the Avengers from that awful prison. But he still hates him and always will. They were never friends, just awkward allies in the best of times.
I actually like how captain America was wrong about why he was fighting, so that he could protect people from more winter soldiers. Didn't even think that maybe he was wrong despite having zero real info on the enemy. Like someone said, pretending like he could live without a war
Just wanted to mention, if you didn't already know, that Bucky hiding out in Bucharest is a bit of an Easter egg. Sebastian Stan is Romanian by birth and speaks the language.
The first team-fight scene and the ending are the best scenes of the entire movie. You can clearly see Russo brothers' direction at its finest. The problem with this movie is the amount of stuff that they attemped to carry out. You have zemo's plot, the internal conflict plot, Bucky Barnes' plot, T'Challa's' plot, etc. When they put all these together, the movie stumbles a lot. Things happen very fast and the movie doesn't take its time to explain things well. (for example: the way Stark recruits Peter Parker is really mediocre and poorly written). From time to time, you don't know if are watching "Avengers: Civil war", "The winter Soldier: part 2", "Captain America 3: Zemo strikes back"... It's a good movie and I really enjoyed it, but it has problems.
I've never been able to take this movie seriously. The argument for Tony's side is just so ludicrously dumb that the fact that *any* of the characters agree with it makes this whole thing a gigantic self-parody.
One thing I've always wondered is how did zemo know that Steve didn't tell him about winter soldier. Cuz his whole plan hinges on Steve not telling Tony the truth. If you'd show the video and Tony already knew wouldn't have done nothing but made him upset but wouldn't have turned him against Bucky and Steve.
Steve didn't know that a brainwashed Bucky had killed the Starks. All he knows is that at some point Hydra was involved in their deaths. They could've just cut a brake line, or done one of a billion different things.
Even when his perspective is fundamentally wrong, he gave free will to people who are overall too dangerous, both WandaVision and Falcon & Winter Soldier proved that, Wanda has no idea or true control over how powerful she really is and the consequences of that will most likely be definitively shown in Multiverse of Madness, Bucky is a great character and Sebastian plays him awesomely but in this movie I personally was on Tony’s side the whole time
@@quietdemon8138 Define "fundamentally wrong". I'm pretty sure you and I would disagree. I was on Cap's side the entire time. Furthermore, he is eventually proven to be right in most things.
@@did3184 No, he said he was on Tony's side, but having atched all the movies, Tony is proven to be wrong on signing the Sokovia Accords. He has justifiable reasons for signing them, but in the end of "Civil War" ven h ends up violating the Accords. As for Steve, he and the Avengers were told by people in authority to stand don or do as they were told many times, but they defined the authorities and prevented several bad decisions. Abandoning the 107th to Hyda Nuking New York Stopping Shield from being taken over by Hydra Arresting Bucky for a crime he didn't commit Even Tony did the right thing in Iron Man when he saved the people in Gulmira because nobody else would. Time and time again Steve is proven to be right in not trusting people in authority to make decisions that violate his personal code of ethics. Yes, Sokovia was a tragedy, but it was either stop Ultron or let he entire human race die. Which would you chose if you had to make the choice? In h beginning of Civil War the Avengers are trying to stop Hydra from getting a biological weapon. They succeed, but some Wakandan humanitarian workers are accidentally killed because Rumlow blows himself up. Are you saying Wanda was negligent because she couldn't stop a suicide bomber hat would have killed millions if he could? As I said, Steve is repeatedly proven right that trusting in authority to do the right thing. As for Tony, he just wants to salve his conscience by letting someone else take responsibility.
@@gsh341 bro you said “define fundamentally wrong” and I just told you that he literally explained it, I’m not taking either side I think they were both right and had their own reasons, you didn’t have to write a whole bible lmao
Tony is literally trying all his hardest to keep everyone together, on top of his ptsd from the original avengers going through the worm hole saving nyc, then in age of ultron being show that he killed everyone else by not doing enough, WITH almost losing pepper in iron man 3, mans is desperate to hold everything together lmao team tony all the way
My favorite MCU movie for a lot of reasons but not the least of which is the antagonist. Zemo is just a regular man, broken by loss, with a little bit of knowledge that exploits the Avengers against themselves causing rifts that will probably never fully heal. Far more compelling than a super robot or a dude with a magic staff.
In point of fact Tony was responsible for Ultron, so the catastrophe in Segovia is on him. Not the rest of the Avengers; he was the one who created the Ultron AI after talking Bruce into it.
Tbh I put blame on him and Wanda. He was ultimately gonna shelve the Ultron initiative, but Wanda brought his PTSD back to full effect pushing him into "making" Ultron. Thing is Ultron wasn't made ultimately by Tony. Ultron made himself, looked at the Internet and decided we all got to go. Tony gets some of the blame but ultimately it ain't all his fault
I remember reading the comics of this, it was an unexpected twist that divided out best and greatest heroes. The movie was a bit different, but still had that same dark unsettling feeling. Personally, id be on Iron Mans side... I always had a rocky relationship w/ my military parents, but they will always be held high in my world.
both sides have their points, yes tony's we have to be put in check, people died when we were out there kicking ass etc. But also steve's safest hands are our own. if we sign We give up our right to choose, since we'll only go when and if the U.N. Says we can go.
best part was when thor came back and showed tony how insignificant his suit is compared to real power lol whenever they had skirmished before he had held back so so so much lol
Don’t forget…. Ross has been trying to get his hands on superhumans under his command for years. He was the one chasing Banner. This whole deal is a power-play by him.
This came out the same year as Batman v Superman. Media and internet often compared the two movies because they both had heroes fighting heroes. These years later, Batman v. Superman has just... evaporated with the rest of the DCEU. Meanwhile, Civil War has only become richer and deeper each time I watch it, because of how everything leads into and threads out of it. The subtleties of the conflict, even down to Zemo being a, frankly, justified villain. It's hard to pick a side, and it's heartbreaking to watch them tear each other apart. Also, WANDA. It is so hard to rank the top five - or hell, even top ten - MCU films, but this one is up there. I just find it amazing that the Captain America's movies are among the best. We couldn't have predicted that ten years ago, but now it feels like it was always the way.
I always hated how they (mainly Tony) acted like Wanda was at fault for the initial explosion. Like, what was she supposed to do? Allow the bomb to explode on the ground, taking out Cap and all the civilians in the marketplace?
Well to be fair she had the entire sky to work with. She could have directed it somewhere else than into the side of the building. In the end it *is* her fault that it exploded where it ultimately did 🤷♂️
@@Morten_Storvik You think she purposely aimed for the building? The power of the explosion overwhelmed her before she could get it all the way up to the sky, but her intent was clearly to get it high enough out of range that it wouldn't hurt anyone. Putting the blame on her for the destruction instead of Rumlow - and ignoring all the lives she saved on the ground - is like blaming the captain of a sinking ship for failing to evacuate every soul on board instead of blaming the ship that fired the torpedo.
@@vashsunglasses He literally said he didn't trust her not to cause another "accident." And that her being there was more for the public's safety than her own.
@@EmphaticNod Does not change the fact that the people in the building died because of *her* and that there where plenty of options to avoid it. If that captain had options that would have saved everyone on board and they did not, then he/she is at fault for those people dying 🤷♂️
RIP Chadwick Boseman 🙏🏼. FYI: the guy who was in the bath tub dead was also in winter soldier, he was the doctor who faked Nick Fury’s death & also he’s the director for winter soldier & civil war with his brother they both directed those two movies
Steve has this weird way of always admitting more than he actually did. He had figured (just like I did) that it must have been Bucky who, while being controlled like a puppet, killed Tony's parents, but he didn't *know* for a fact until now, and either way, he had his reasons for keeping it to himself, which Tony showed us right after. Steve actually saved Tony from becoming the murderer of an innocent person, not that Tony appreciates that even one tiny bit.
The movie literally telling you who that is “do we know who that is?” 2 seconds before “rumlow has a biological weapon” “what is it a pym particle?” Crazy but if you listen they tell you
"It's run by people with agendas, and agendas change"--Steve has learned much, and is now more knowledgeable and savvy than the others who kept making fun of him for being backwards and knowing nothing about the world.
Holy fuck, i did not even consider that. An angry tony making ultron? That ultron would have killed everything just like in What If. Thank god cap didnt tell him that.
What infuriates me about this movie is how everyone blames the Avengers for deaths of few people, but ignores that bomb would have taken out hundreds and terrorists would have gotten away with a bioweapon without their intervention. No one even specifically mentions it when Avengers are discussing whether or not sign the accords.
I'm more annoyed that the only mention that Ross gets in their discussion was Rhodey mentioning him winning the Medal of Honor and not the fact that he spent 3 years chasing Banner around the world because he wanted to learn how to recreate the Hulk so that he could weaponize it.
To this day, Zemo may be my favorite "villain" if you can call him that, antagonist maybe is the better word, to date in the MCU. Top 5 at least. "Come on Tony you have to understand" and tell me, would you... Understand, if you saw your most loved ones get murdered before your eyes, and the person responsible was right next to you, along with someone you thought you trusted but who had been lying to you all along? Would you.. "Understand"? I don't think anyone would. The real lack of empathy towards Tony completely reacting the way anyone would to that circumstance from all reactors pretty much is shocking
Villains who fight with mind are always most dangerous one and zemo i think best villain even if he is just a normal human. He just made Avengers fight each other
The sound you don’t like with Black Panther’s claws is because they are made from Vibranium which is the same metal as Captain America’s shield. His whole suit is made from it. You are correct that it seem like a bunch of movies going at once because it was introducing characters and expanding characters. I still like when Friday says “you can’t beat him hand to hand!” Then he analyzes his fight pattern. Genius. I think I said it in your last reaction but always keep tissues for Marvel 😉
Such a well fricking done movie. And, really, the only actual villain in the movie, Rumlow/Crossbones/The Guy With The Good Hair, dies early on in the first part of the movie. Everyone else has just been made into something they never expected to be by events beyond their control. Even Zemo, villainous bastage that he was, is a sympathetic character when seen in perspective. It's brilliant.
From "I can't control their fear, only my own" to controlling every fiber of their being, wiping their memory and completely rewriting their entire existence. The growth of Wanda's character is unparalleled. I shaking and crying rn 😭😭😭
you guys will never see this but.. holy crap it is so nice to have someone react to the marvel movies who actually follows along with what's happening/has come before and what it means in that moment... Thank you for enjoying AND paying attention lol
I don't think there were really ever two sides to this whole "civil war", because Tony himself blatantly *violated* the Sokovia Accords as soon as he had a reason to. The difference between him and Steve is that Steve wasn't going to sign something he had no intention of honoring.
@6:14 Wanda was not only trying to save Cap’s life, but also the lives of everyone on the ground. I’ve always wondered why she didn’t direct the explosion up into the air away from the buildings. It seems that she would have been able to do that.
One of my fav mcu movies, love Capt America and ant man are my fav hero’s . When Scott first meets cap my fav moment. Scott Lang needs more love just saying;)
This movie made me think about my country and is running it. It may be the same with all parts of the world, but I feel it comes down to this. When there is a great power that is helping you, if you can't control it then it is against you. It is all about "Control". I understand the pain of the parent at the beginning who told Stark that her son died because of him. Yes as human we will blame those outside ourselves for our pain. All in all, when it comes to planetary, global, or universal protection, if we experience a loss, we will blame those who survive upon defending us. We will blame them for not defending those who meant so much to us. In this film, I have always felt such heavy heart and dislike. When it comes to the global attacks that have been experienced in the Marvel films, even tho there are those that risk their lives to stop the threat, those that have experienced a personal loss will always blame those who "saved the earth". Humanity seems to just naturally be selfish in nature. Even if it means the survival of the whole planet, if it costs you a life or two in order to save the whole planet and all the lives that live on it, you will still be greedy and selfish and try to bring down those that saved the whole planet just because the cost was a loved one. I guess that it is what it is. There is always the saying of, "I'm just human" which seems to be said as a defense when one fails. As to say that as a human i am not perfect so I am sorry that I failed. so to say that you are human please accept the fact that you are human and that as a human we are capable of failure so when failure happens don't blame the world for what went wrong.
I love the slow realization and the gears turning as you figure out bucky killed tony's parents. I remember vividly sitting in the theatre Bc everyone realized it at the same time and all the women turned to their mans with shocked and hands on their mouths.
That scene when Tony sees his parents get get killed is so well acted, Robert showing the anger building, Sebastian showing the guilt and shame of his actions and Chris showing the conflict of being stuck in the middle between the two, great film!
Yeah. "No witnesses!" And they film the whole thing...
@@reynaldolorenzo8409 I'm not the one "digging too hard." This is make-believe, sonny. Don't get your panties in a wad over fiction.
@@academyofshem his point was just that everything is easily fixed if we try to understand in another perspective. Understanding in another perspective is not that much mental gymnastics lol, not everyhting is a plothole.
@@jbonceu2457 When your plot is based on a security camera that is filming a random rural road in the MIDDLE OF NOWHERE back in 1991 before CCTV was really a thing on roads, well...
It's all make believe. Don't sweat it.
@@academyofshem Wasnt Tonys parents on their way to or from a shield base? Howad had managed to recreate the super soldier serum or at the very least he was transporting it to one of their bases with the hopes of takling to shield officials about the super serums future. Honestly cant remeber how much of that is stated in the movie and how much is fan theories but i know i read it somewhere before or saw a video presenting this theory.
How dare the government try and blame the Avengers for the attack on New York, when the government was trying to fire a nuke at the city that still had civilians?
Wasn't the government man!!! Its a common misconception, It was the shield high council full of undercover Hydra guys... They explore that in the agents of shield show!!
well their idea is without the avengers there would be no need for the avengers which is a pretty fair way of looking at things, i mean thats a common moral throughout superhero movies in general, almost ever villain stems from the the branches formed in creating said superhero, it's supposed to be a dramatic take on things that happen in our world today with war machines.
@@sidicy Agents OF Shield it's not canon
nothing it says in there is real
@@nadie7529 lmfao no Fiege has literally said it’s in the same continuity. Stop believing the click bait
@@sidicy You do realize that shield was PART OF THE GOVERNMENT right? Lmfao
"He's my friend"
"So was I"
That exchange always breaks my heart.
@Stran ger L comment
shame they ruined it by having it in trailer for the movie...
@@adamdolezalek9402 another L comment
@@jordanv6466 lol fax
It didn't me, because Tony only ever considered Cap a friend when he was trying to convince him of something. And he turned on Cap and all their beliefs in a heartbeat when it was either that or face up to the fact that HE and HE ALONE screwed up. That HE, Tony, needs adult supervision, not the Avengers as a team. Tony is an Asshat, pure and simple.
I Love How Peter Parker doesn't stop talking even in the middle of a fight also Chadwick boseman was getting cancer treatment during the filming of this so despite his discomfort and doing most of his own stunts kind of made him a real life Avenger....R.I.P. Chadwick boseman.
It's kinda his fighting style, taking down the opponent mentally whilst physically fighting
@@masterofroblox687 literally lol, the only person who talks more than spiderman is deadpool. It’s like his nervous twitch
And none of Chadwick's costars or Marvel execs even knew about his cancer.
Chadwick was diagnosed with cancer in 2016; this movie was filmed in 2015. So Chadwick wasn't filming this movie during cancer treatment.
@@loganbigmo ok I stand corrected but he still would have had cancer before diagnosis and the pain that goes with it I know from experience from a family member so it still made him a hard ass.
And so we continue our “Maple cries her way through the MCU” journey 🥺
Feel like this movie isn’t talked about enough honestly easily one of my favorites
I like it too, but this is easily one the Marvel movies that gets talked about the most. Most people pretty much consider it Avengers 2.5, so I'm not sure I get what you mean.
@@hdns4 certain scenes I feel aren’t appreciated enough is all. It is better than the comic tho
It's easily the 3rd best movie. Infinity war and Endgame are in tier 1 and I think Civil War and No way home are also in tier 1. Then tier 2 there is Avengers/Guardians/WinterSoldier/Black Panther/Ragnarok/Shang-Chi.
@@aaronboone8097 Nah
1. Infinity War
2. Spider-Man NWH
3. Captain America: The Winter Soldier
4. the Avengers
4. Iron Man 1
5. Guardians of the Galaxy
6. Avengers: Endgame (a huge favorite of mine but still isn’t top 5)
7. Thor: Ragnarok
8. Spider-Man: Homecoming
9. Captain America: Civil War
10. Captain America: The First Avenger
11. Black Panther
12. Doctor Strange
I haven’t seen Shang-Chi so I can’t rate it but I hear it’s like Black Panther tier. This is my list for best MCU movies, I might have missed one but that’s pretty much how I would rate the top 12.
@@Brandon-br7tc Doctor Strange movie is much better than Black Panther, GOTG and Thor Ragnarok imo
In the Civil War comic the line, "Plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and, say, No. You move.", was actually spoken by Cap.
"God gave people free will and they chose to live in Ohio!?" I love that. That's perfect.
Some of us move.
i fuckin died lmao
Loved that line. She's a champ.
Funny enough, the directors of this movie the Russo Bros are from Ohio lmao
The disrespect to my state😭 lucky me I'm planning a move to Virginia Beach anyways
"God gave people free will and they chose to live in OHIO?!?" I've never been to Ohio, but that one hurt even me. But to paraphrase the song, "At least it's not Detroit." 🤣
She hurt my poor Ohio heart.
This hurt my poor Michigander heart
I always loved the nuance in “I didn’t *_know_* it was him” and the later “I can see now, I was really sparing myself”.
Really gives a great insight into the denial Steve was in and how his connection to Bucky clouded his judgment, preventing him from facing the obvious truth until Tony forced him to be honest with himself and what he always suspected.
Sadly, that humanization gets lost on most people.
Well, the truth wasnt OBVIOUS per sae. Anybody in hydra could have killed the Starks. Just because it was PROBABLY Bucky doesnt mean that Steve had the proof that it was him. The only thing that was obvious was Hydra's connection to the Starks death which was hinted at in Winter Soldier. This is what Cap knew. So when Cap said "I didn't *it was him*" he isn't lying, but he did know of course that the Starks' deaths were no accident which is why he replies "Yes"
Steve was a bully throughout his whole time in the MCU
@@insertnamehere2746 then why when stark asked did he said “yes” why didn’t he say “anyone in hydra could have killed the starks, just because it was probably Bucky doesn’t mean I had the proof”
Because he knew and you get told he knew, not suspected.
@@Daltwan_Kenobi lmfao you're calling steve a bully when iron man is the literal fucking poster boy for bullies 😂
@@Daltwan_Kenobi He said yes because asked him if he KNEW that his parents got killed, to which Cap DID KNOW. Cap DID NOT KNOW it was Bucky
This one broke my heart for the first time in the MCU. And this movie is why Zemo is my favourite villain.
He's such an amazing villain bruh. The plan is just incredible.
A simple man wanting justice for his family , tore down the what the big villains could not.
I'm not even sure you could strictly call him a "villain". "Anti-hero", maybe. He's using extreme but arguably necessary measures (and, moreover, measures made necessary by the Avengers' own refusal to submit to accountability from the people they effectively rule) to destroy the threat that killed his family so it can't harm others. Wouldn't take much to make him at least the protagonist of the piece.
Chadwick is from my hometown (Anderson, South Carolina) & has done a ton for the local communities & kids down here. Wakanda Forever, My King 🤴🏿🙌
Have you ever bumped into him or seen him across the street or something?
@@DarkPaladin24 no, but his parents were honored at his old high school not too long ago. truly nice people
@@shadowfire_08 he was definitely the kind of guy I would have love to meet.
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Great reaction! A couple reasons why this is arguably the best mcu movie. Introduces spider man, black panther and zemo, Wanda and vision become closer, we find out how Tony’s parents died and who killed them, and also find out the avengers aren’t innocent when it comes to civilian casualties. It’s insane they managed to pack all of this into one movie and actually make it work.
Especially since the avengers don't make a collective decision. The fact that everyone has a different opinion on it and it spreads to all the other movies is just amazing.
One other aspect that l loke about behind the scenes of Civilwar was that they had 2 scripts, one with spiderman added and the other one without him in it because when working on Civilwar war they were right in the middle of the deal with sony and marvel studio.
We knew who killed Tony’s parents long before this movie
For me, the heart of the conflict was what always interested me about this movie. Should the Avengers be held accountable? I think they should hold themselves accountable and that trusting a government with constantly changing agendas and the potential lives missed because of government dependence is too much a risk. Cap was betrayed by the government in WS so it makes sense why he wouldn't sign the Sokovia Accords
Not a good reaction she even don't know black panther 😂
"Those baskets are like $46!!"-Maple. That was hilarious!!
Welcome to Phase 3.
Your in for something major transitions.
These next movies change everything.
As does the logo. It represents the evolution of Marvel Studios.
Wow man. It’s so amazing how much Peter’s character has grown since this movie, dude.
Ikr! I personally really love that he's actually young and we watch him as a character grow up over more than just one movie.
Civil War is still my number one MCU film. It just had me emotionally invested all the way and the fighting choreography was intense. I’m way too hyped for Doctor strange: multiverse of madness!
SAME
Agreed. It is probably my favorite MCU film. Great story, great cameos, and heartbreaking ending.
It’s my fav also.
What are your top mcu films?
Mine are
1-cap America the winter soldier (since 2014)
2-gotg vol 1
3-spiderman homecoming
4-shang-chi
5-black panther (had a good script and killmonger)
@@bashengatheblackmanta7003
1. Civil War
2. No Way Home
3. Endgame
4. Infinity War
5. Winter Soldier
6. GOTG
7. Shang-Chi
Sad how Black Widows action scenes here are way better than the entirety of her Solo movie.
This movie was so fucking intense. Bucky is my favorite. Some people will lose their family and friends but to lose your free will is devastating. To be controlled to do the worst thing possible which is end someone's life. Bucky was tormented mentally and physically for almost a century. The guilt he feels is heavy. And knowing he could be controlled again makes him want to freeze himself. I just try to remember Bucky before he was captured. The guy who stuck by Little Steve when everyone else looked over him. Which inspired Steve to be the idealistic Captain he is now.
I love the fact that Maple is such a sensitive person ... She literally feels the emotion... Her tears always fall during the most emotional scenes ... Thank u for taking us on this journey one more time ... I would love to meet her one day. .. if not in this life maybe in d next.. il find u ❤️
"Is that what he (Robert Downey, Jr.) looked like?" Yep...you need to watch Weird Science, so you can actually see what he looked like around that same age.
The de-ageing in MCU films is generally good but for me the scale goes K. Russell
@@snowdenwyatt6276 Sam Jackson in Capain Marvel?
@@VColossalV I knew I was forgetting someone. Visually - almost as good as Molina & Dafoe. Whenever he had to move with alacrity - obviously 70 years old. See also DeNiro in The Irishman
@@snowdenwyatt6276 Also Sir Anthony Hopkins in the first Thor movie, the scene when he has the missing eye and the scene when he was with a young Loki and Thor.
Yeah, the Captain America movies are especially viscerally brutal in their physicality. Even when they block a knife or something, it just has this hard, crisp feeling that you sense in your gut every time. Love it!
I like how they make all the collateral damage a real part of the story of the MCU. Most superhero franchises just skate right over all the innocent deaths.
MCU kind of still does that. Aliens attack NY and 80 people die? Mkay.
Actually it's opposite. It took this many films for MCU to finally talk about it. While Dceu made this their central conflict after the first film. Incredibles had this as one of their main plot point and X-Men Universe is vaguely about this
Actually it's opposite. It took this many films for MCU to finally talk about it. While Dceu made this their central conflict after the first film. Incredibles had this as one of their main plot point and X-Men Universe is vaguely about this
@@aaxyz9990 That's true but even with it at the center of DC's themes, their films are fundamentally flawed. Wonder Woman and Aquaman in particular have awful arcs and their characters don't undergo any meaningful change.
I'd say Amazon's the Boys does a better job at making social commentary on collateral damage better than any other existing comic book franchise.
@@mowgli6345 this was never about which films have better arcs and which are better. MCU is clearly ahead. Just saying what you said in the first comment is wrong
If you like Wanda now, her story just progressively gets better and better.
If you're talking about wandavision then she's a sociopathic villain.
I wouldn't call that better.
@@edenarchive4150 honestly I don’t know how people love her so much after the things she has done
@@edenarchive4150 better, more interesting. The story of how someone becomes a villain can be fascinating, and hers is brilliantly done
@@edenarchive4150 Her story and her character are separate things so I don't know what your point is supposed to be.
@@osang4599 Because she's a good character.
The Civil War arc should have been over two films but I still enjoy this
And a bit closer to the civil war comics!! would have made Cap's position wayy stronger!!
The movie has weak reasoning for Cap's problems with the accords which is why they have the whole bucky killed tony's parents gambit here to justify the rivalry a bit more!!
I love the Russo brother's but i feel like this was a missed opportunity
There's a few films that should be two or even three films. Civil War and Gorr The God Butcher/The Mighty Thor come to kind.
The only reason War Machine got hurt is because Tony refused to back down…and when you are dealing with people with this much power, someone is bound to get hurt.
I’ve NEVER believed the State should supersede the individual. And giving people with a conscious the forced options of being a worker for the State, retiring to let others do the work of protecting people or becoming a criminal is the wrong thing to do.
THIS is why I FULLY agree with Captain America!!!
38:30 - In Winnter Soldier, Natasha wore a high-tech face mask that made her look like one of the Security Council. How could nobody even entertain the notion that the guy on the grainy surveillance footage who kinda looked like Bucky might not actually be Bucky? Instead, everybody simply refused to even listen to Cap long enough for him to tell them that it wasn't Bucky who blew up the UN. meeting in Vienna.
Every time I hear "Sokovia Accords" I just start fuming💀 (and it gets mentioned A LOT)
Ι always loved how they have Buck hiding in Bucharest and speaking Romanian bc guess where Sebastian Stan is from!
It takes a while to realize that Spiderman can catch a full strength punch from Bucky with HIS BARE FIST.
Both Cap and Tony is right. Without the accords, they will essentially be international fugitives, unable to help anyone officially. Imagine a bunch of people with powers doing whatever they want in a city. Its all fine and dainty if everyone has a moral compass like Cap but what about those that don't?
Tony is right about needing oversight, but their oversight people could be corrupted too. *Flashback to Hydra being in every level of Shield.
There's is no good solution here which makes this film great
That's why Cap it's the leader, to oversight the Avengers and the new people that might come. Whatever they want? They're there for a reason. The Accords don't stop the murder and chaos, just validate the actions making the saving process WAY slower, do you remember how in the movie Tony said "Sign this and we would validate the 24 hrs prior"? We already watch how much good they did and it's like pretending police don't fuck up sometimes. Even while the directors tried to balance the ideals, Cap is clearly on the right.
Tony is right about HIM needing oversight, not the Avengers. After all Ultron and Sokovia was his fault and he did it behind everyone's back (except Bruce)
@@OsSas3 yeah but it's about the principle. + if they do it act illegally, nothing really distinguish them from the bad guys. but the accords aren't great either, which is basically the point of the movie and what makes it good. like, there is no team especially wrong or right
@@illyana3537 Act illegally doing what? Hurting innocent people? Trying to take over the world? They're the answer to the villains, I don't understand that logic, they're clearly different from the bad guys
@@SchulzEricT Exactly. Tony is driven exclusively by guilt and PTSD. He doesn't want to find the best moral solution, he just wants to feel better, so he decides someone else can be in charge of his decisions, so when it goes wrong in the future, then he can blame them rather than himself. He's a coward.
My favourite part of dialogue is at Peggy's funeral, when Sharon gives her speech because they pulled some of it from the comics. In Amazing Spider-man #537, Spider-man asks Cap how he deals with the feeling when it seems like the country is against you & Cap's response is, "Doesn't matter what the press says. Doesn't matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn't matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: The requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree beside the river of truth, and tell the whole world - No, YOU move.”
The "You move" speech gives me goosebumps because it covers so much of Cap's character. As big and iconic as he is and as a symbol of America he is, he's our country's ideals and not its government. Giving people a voice and having us stand up for what we believe in. The way Cap brings out the best in people is what makes him so great. Once a scrawny man whose greatest strength is his character. A hero from the past whose ideals transcend its time
11:32 This is where Tony goes wrong for me, personally. I understand the world's crying out for some order, but in the end - Tony is doing this for selfish reasons. He can't stomach the blowback of his own decisions - decisions he makes to try and help people that were dangerous.
Spencer died because of Ultron. Ultron was Tony's creation. Tony created Ultron to help protect the world against threats like Loki. Tony has shown that he will compromise when he shouldn't, bend or break rules when he shouldn't - and cave when he shouldn't, when it comes to saving lives. Cap just won't do that. Cap would never have created Ultron in the first place - and he sure as shit won't hand over control of the Avengers to the UN. Not after what he saw with the downfall of SHIELD.
The opposing side isn't insane, but I think it's ultimately wrong. Or, at the very least, Tony is agreeing with the Accords for the wrong reasons. If I was at that table, I'd hope I had the stomach to suggest that maybe Tony is problem. I suspect if Ultron hadn't been created, the Accords would have never come to pass. Or at least, they'd have been delayed, or softened.
All that being said, I think that's the beauty of this film and why it's one of the best in the MCU - and one of the best superhero films ever made: it forces a critical issue, and demands that you really think about it. There's a lot to talk about in Civil War, and the Accords are just the beginning of it.
Yes, that's what Robert Downey Jr. looked like in his youth, in his older movies, which undoubtedly was where they got the CGI model for his younger face.
"How are they doing these things without getting hurt?"
- Well in this fictional universe, there's Vibranium... basically a metal that's impervious to just about anything. In that way, it's similar to fictional materials like Adamantium, Beskar Steel, Mithril, or Valyrian Steel. But of course there's always the strongest and best armor of them all... "plot armor".
What drives me crazy in this movie is Tony acting all self-righteous when he's the one who created Ultra without telling anyone else. That woman's child wouldn't have died if Tony had talked through his idea with Steve and the others before doing it but he doesn't and Ultra almost destroyed the world. And throughout this entire movie he's acting like Steve is in the wrong for wanting to keep his freedom when it's Tony's fault that freedom is threatened.
The way I see it is Tony realizes he was in the wrong, so he doesn't trust himself to be left on his own. (Also his Pepper trouble is a factor)
you forget, ultron was in like start up testing phase, when he suddenly came into being. Tony was running simulations, he told jarvis let me know when one works/done, and when one miraculously worked. jarvis got taken out.
Which is exactly why he is being like this in the movie. He takes responsibility and knows that he needs some form of oversight. Remember that its exactly tha freedom that accidentally created the monster that was Ultron.
It is not all Tony's fault. There was more going on than Tony creating Ultron. The movie literally spells it out.
Tony has a habit of overreacting and over correcting in the opposite direction. A lot of his worst decisions stem from him being very reactionary and volatile.
One small cool thing I noticed in the beginning with the Avengers is that they disguise their chatter with their coffee mugs and take a sip to act like they are really thirsty. They only drink after they talk to each other through their ear pieces, specifically Wanda since she’s out in the open
They mentioned New York, Washington, D.C, Sokovia, and Lagos, but there's also Thor's battle with Malekith in London, Hulk vs Hulkbuster in Johannesburg, and the Avengers vs Ultron and his sentries in Seoul.
And Hulk v Abomination
In this movie, Brock Rumlow has fully become the supervillain Crossbones. Note the white X on his outfit. And R.I.P. William Hurt (Secretary of State Ross), March 20, 1950 - March 13, 2022 (age 71).
40:54 okay here's the thing, Bucky has no control when he's "activated" Bucky is literally watching through the Winter Soldiers eyes.
Bucky is exactly what the Accords seek to turn the Avengers into.
And the pro-Accords forces spend the entire movie trying to murder him for it. While the anti-Accords "outlaws" try to protect Bucky from summary execution justified solely by suspicion.
@@flatebo1 Exactly! Personally, I thought having Secretary Ross-who was a whole-ass villain in a previous movie-pushing the Accords should have been a flashing red warning to viewers from the very moment they're suggested, but I guess some people have short memories.
@@noodle_fc As I've noted elsewhere (in this thread, I think) Thunderbolt Ross is the embodiment of the US military as a supervillain. And Iron Man is the embodiment of US military tech as a superhero.
Seems a bit odd that Stark, who told the US government to get stuffed in IM2 when they wanted to nationalize his Iron Man tech, would be willing to turn over all of his Iron Man stuff to the frickin' UN. And the whole "Well, if we sign we'll have leverage to change the rules to something more manageable4" is simply delusional. If you sign, you throw away your only leverage. Then they take your toys and give them to someone more compliant if you get uppity.
@@flatebo1 See, I don't think that's odd. From the very first MCU movie, Tony's development has been from someone who doesn't give a shit to someone who tries to do the right thing. But part of doing the right thing is dealing with mistakes. At the beginning of Iron Man 2, Tony hasn't made any serious mistakes (acting as Iron Man) yet.
This movie is constructed incredibly well. First thing that happens: Cap, Sam, Wanda (and Nat) use their powers to avert a terrible outcome, but something goes wrong and innocents die. Later, Cap tells Wanda yeah, that sucks, but you live with it, you save who you can, when you can.
Next thing: Tony has guilt and regret about his last interaction with his parents. Charlie's mom blames him for Ultron and Sokovia, and he carries guilt for that, too. He wants a way out from under that guilt, something that feels better than the advice Wanda got, i.e., make the best decision you can, then make peace with both the good and bad consequences.
As Steve says of the accords, "this document just shifts the blame" (from them to whomever tells them what to do). That is _exactly_ why it appeals to Tony. He doesn't want to feel guilt over whatever might go wrong the next time the Avengers act.
@@noodle_fc This is 100% correct. Tony doesn't want the Accords because he morally believes they are the right idea. He just wants to be able to feel better and have someone to blame for the next fuck up, rather than himself.
watching these makes me so sad because of Chadwick Boseman passing.. he was such an amazing actor and from what i've seen a great person, Black Panther will never feel the same
Captain America 2&3 and Avengers Infinity War is the peek of storytelling and plot in the MCU. To be honest, they are some of the best movies in terms of storytelling and plot in general
37:59 love the little hints that had pointing towards the reveal. God this movie is too good
Cap saved his two friends. He saved one from being murdered, and he saved the other from becoming a murderer.
General Ross is the biggest idiot in all of the MCU. Literally everything he does is wrong. Especially the Sokovia Accords. He should be court-martialed, dishonorably discharged, and put in prison for the rest of his life. I apologize to idiots for comparing him to them.
Marvel's perennial motto: "With great power must also come great responsibility."
Sokovia Accords: "With great power comes someone else's responsibility."
Also responsible for Abomination and (if they ever get around to it) the Leader.
Bucky is one of my favorite characters in the MCU and Sebastian Stan plays him beautifully. It’s funny that over the course of 10 years and all his appearances in the Infinity Saga movies, Bucky only has 4-5 mins of dialogue, the rest is just Sebastian’s talent for facial expressions and body language to convey all that emotion. Superb performance!
Just wanted to note Chris Evans actually held onto a helicopter for that one scene
Flex time, lol. I love the strange smirk that TWS has as he watches. Then, of course, he crashes the copter and tries to chop the Cap up, lol.
Is that the Pym particle got me 🤣🤣🤣
Even after captain America says biological weapon 🤷🏻♂️🤣
That quote from Peggy was actually in the comics, but it was Captain America talking to Spider-Man, and it was a bit longer. I like the quote, but it can be used by people who are definitively in the wrong to justify not changing their stance. Cap was trying to tell Peter that sometimes the world *is* wrong, but others often take it to mean that everyone else is *always* wrong.
Lol “I didn’t realize it was her” so the marvel cap disguise does work 😂
One of my biggest gripes is when the mother of the dead son is all, "Who's going to avenge my son?"
Um, they killed Ultron. He was avenged. You need to learn what the word avenge means, lady.
But it was their destruction that caused his death, they may have stopped Ultron but at the cost of countless lives including her son and Zemo’s family and imo their insults/revenge was completely justified
@@quietdemon8138 Had they not stopped Ultron, all of humanity would have been exterminated. So, no, their insults/revenge was wholly unjustified because it is wholly misplaced.
Ultron is responsible for the destruction in Sokovia. Ultron chose Sokovia as the location for his planet-killer meteor. None of the Avengers did.
On the other hand, Stark is responsible for Ultron. But only Stark. Absent his reckless meddling with the Mind Stone, Ultron would not have existed. But that no more makes Stark responsible for Ultron's actions/choices than a parent is responsible for the actions/choices of their adult offspring.
Every single example of the destruction "caused" by the Avengers is an example of the Avengers trying to limit the destruction others, notably the various villains, are trying to cause. When trying to stop another from committing an atrocity, you do not become responsible for the damage they succeed in causing. And it's especially galling that Ross brings up the invasion of NYC when the World Security Council (i.e. HYDRA) tried to end the invasion by *nuking* *New* *York*.
@@flatebo1 you do realize this is several governments that want to impose their will on a group of good people. This isn't a rational decision it's an attempt to force the avengers under their boot.
@@devinsteele2424 It's the majority of world governments that want to impose their will upon a group of people through the UN. Y'know, the UN doesn't have its own military. They rely on member countries sending military forces to work under the UN banner. The Accords would give the UN a small army of superpowered people under the UN's sole authority. An UN army which, through the Hulk alone, would outclass pretty much every military in the world.
(It's especially hilarious given that, in IM2, Stark basically told the US government to get fucked when *they* tried to nationalize his Iron Man tech. And he's just going to turn over complete control to the UN?)
Considering the kind of extremely criminal conduct that the UN has historically engaged in, and further considering that the UN leadership is quite often rather hostile to the US, giving the UN complete authority over all superpeople everywhere on Earth - including Thor, the prince and heir apparent of an alien race of gods - is about the single stupidest thing anyone could possibly propose. We're supposed to trust an organization whose president in the 1970s was literally a former Nazi (and likely HYDRA in the MCU)?
No. If the Avengers violated any law, charge them under existing legislation. Even the incident which kicks off the action in Civil War did not result in anyone anywhere bringing charges against Wanda - despite the biased narrative that *she*, not Rumlow, was the one responsible for the Wakandan Embassy deaths.
I'd also point out that, under the Accords, Wakanda would become the property of the UN. The entire nations is stuffed full of super-tech and a super-metal - vibranium. If the Accords places Falcon (a US ex-soldier using US military tech) under the authority of the UN, then it also places all of Wakanda under the control of the UN. Wakanda would have signed away its sovereignty, and placed T"challa specifically completely under the UN's authority.
@@flatebo1 I'm not disagreeing with you, I'm just pointing out something you didn't say in your comment. I think it's very realistic in how it depicts an irrational decision making process that has no clear answer. You can only pick the lesser of 2 evils in some situations.
The collateral damage wasn't what was wrong about Sokovia. Tony creating that murder-bot Ultron was what was wrong, and that's on him, not the Avengers.
BS, Steve, you were sparing Bucky from getting murdered in revenge, as well as Tony from becoming his murderer (or getting killed in the process). Tony fought Steve because he wouldn't sign the Accords that Tony later violated in more than one way, and then when he was attempting to murder Bucky. Steve saved them both, but Tony will continue hating him regardless. Tony has always hated Steve anyway because Howard Stark admired Steve. That's pure jealousy. At least Tony didn't interfere with Steve freeing the better half of the Avengers from that awful prison. But he still hates him and always will. They were never friends, just awkward allies in the best of times.
I actually like how captain America was wrong about why he was fighting, so that he could protect people from more winter soldiers. Didn't even think that maybe he was wrong despite having zero real info on the enemy. Like someone said, pretending like he could live without a war
"God gave people free will and they chose to live in Ohio?!?" I was not ready for that lmao. I'm using that to critize people's choice from now on
Just wanted to mention, if you didn't already know, that Bucky hiding out in Bucharest is a bit of an Easter egg. Sebastian Stan is Romanian by birth and speaks the language.
The first team-fight scene and the ending are the best scenes of the entire movie. You can clearly see Russo brothers' direction at its finest.
The problem with this movie is the amount of stuff that they attemped to carry out. You have zemo's plot, the internal conflict plot, Bucky Barnes' plot, T'Challa's' plot, etc. When they put all these together, the movie stumbles a lot. Things happen very fast and the movie doesn't take its time to explain things well. (for example: the way Stark recruits Peter Parker is really mediocre and poorly written).
From time to time, you don't know if are watching "Avengers: Civil war", "The winter Soldier: part 2", "Captain America 3: Zemo strikes back"...
It's a good movie and I really enjoyed it, but it has problems.
I'll just take out Spider-Man and give more time for the internal conflict, it's just ilogical for Tony to bring him to battle.
I've never been able to take this movie seriously. The argument for Tony's side is just so ludicrously dumb that the fact that *any* of the characters agree with it makes this whole thing a gigantic self-parody.
Cap was shit though
Vision can "Phase" through things. He alters his density, and can pass through matter.
''I'm not gonna kill anyone.''
*proceeds to break every single bone in a man's torso, sending him flying through a door*
One thing I've always wondered is how did zemo know that Steve didn't tell him about winter soldier. Cuz his whole plan hinges on Steve not telling Tony the truth. If you'd show the video and Tony already knew wouldn't have done nothing but made him upset but wouldn't have turned him against Bucky and Steve.
Steve didn't know that a brainwashed Bucky had killed the Starks. All he knows is that at some point Hydra was involved in their deaths. They could've just cut a brake line, or done one of a billion different things.
"Best friends
Fightin baaaad guys
While bein baaaad guys"
lol
The one thing you can say about Cap, he's always true to his principles and his principles never change.
Even when his perspective is fundamentally wrong, he gave free will to people who are overall too dangerous, both WandaVision and Falcon & Winter Soldier proved that, Wanda has no idea or true control over how powerful she really is and the consequences of that will most likely be definitively shown in Multiverse of Madness, Bucky is a great character and Sebastian plays him awesomely but in this movie I personally was on Tony’s side the whole time
@@quietdemon8138 Define "fundamentally wrong".
I'm pretty sure you and I would disagree. I was on Cap's side the entire time. Furthermore, he is eventually proven to be right in most things.
@@gsh341 that person literally just explained to you how Cap was wrong lmao
@@did3184 No, he said he was on Tony's side, but having atched all the movies, Tony is proven to be wrong on signing the Sokovia Accords.
He has justifiable reasons for signing them, but in the end of "Civil War" ven h ends up violating the Accords. As for Steve, he and the Avengers were told by people in authority to stand don or do as they were told many times, but they defined the authorities and prevented several bad decisions.
Abandoning the 107th to Hyda
Nuking New York
Stopping Shield from being taken over by Hydra
Arresting Bucky for a crime he didn't commit
Even Tony did the right thing in Iron Man when he saved the people in Gulmira because nobody else would.
Time and time again Steve is proven to be right in not trusting people in authority to make decisions that violate his personal code of ethics.
Yes, Sokovia was a tragedy, but it was either stop Ultron or let he entire human race die.
Which would you chose if you had to make the choice?
In h beginning of Civil War the Avengers are trying to stop Hydra from getting a biological weapon. They succeed, but some Wakandan humanitarian workers are accidentally killed because Rumlow blows himself up.
Are you saying Wanda was negligent because she couldn't stop a suicide bomber hat would have killed millions if he could?
As I said, Steve is repeatedly proven right that trusting in authority to do the right thing. As for Tony, he just wants to salve his conscience by letting someone else take responsibility.
@@gsh341 bro you said “define fundamentally wrong” and I just told you that he literally explained it, I’m not taking either side I think they were both right and had their own reasons, you didn’t have to write a whole bible lmao
Tony is literally trying all his hardest to keep everyone together, on top of his ptsd from the original avengers going through the worm hole saving nyc, then in age of ultron being show that he killed everyone else by not doing enough, WITH almost losing pepper in iron man 3, mans is desperate to hold everything together lmao team tony all the way
My favorite MCU movie for a lot of reasons but not the least of which is the antagonist. Zemo is just a regular man, broken by loss, with a little bit of knowledge that exploits the Avengers against themselves causing rifts that will probably never fully heal. Far more compelling than a super robot or a dude with a magic staff.
In point of fact Tony was responsible for Ultron, so the catastrophe in Segovia is on him. Not the rest of the Avengers; he was the one who created the Ultron AI after talking Bruce into it.
Tbh I put blame on him and Wanda. He was ultimately gonna shelve the Ultron initiative, but Wanda brought his PTSD back to full effect pushing him into "making" Ultron.
Thing is Ultron wasn't made ultimately by Tony. Ultron made himself, looked at the Internet and decided we all got to go. Tony gets some of the blame but ultimately it ain't all his fault
I remember reading the comics of this, it was an unexpected twist that divided out best and greatest heroes. The movie was a bit different, but still had that same dark unsettling feeling. Personally, id be on Iron Mans side... I always had a rocky relationship w/ my military parents, but they will always be held high in my world.
both sides make a lot of sense, but i would have to be on iron man's side, he's so much better than captain america
both sides have their points, yes tony's we have to be put in check, people died when we were out there kicking ass etc. But also steve's safest hands are our own. if we sign We give up our right to choose, since we'll only go when and if the U.N. Says we can go.
The comics was bad...the movie is so much better
@@diannajennings266 you did not just say that… the comic event Civil War is 1000 times better than the movie
best part was when thor came back and showed tony how insignificant his suit is compared to real power lol
whenever they had skirmished before he had held back so so so much lol
Love how every female that watches marvel is a wanda Stan well 99 percent of them not saying it's a bad thing just find it funny
Don’t forget…. Ross has been trying to get his hands on superhumans under his command for years. He was the one chasing Banner. This whole deal is a power-play by him.
This came out the same year as Batman v Superman. Media and internet often compared the two movies because they both had heroes fighting heroes. These years later, Batman v. Superman has just... evaporated with the rest of the DCEU. Meanwhile, Civil War has only become richer and deeper each time I watch it, because of how everything leads into and threads out of it. The subtleties of the conflict, even down to Zemo being a, frankly, justified villain. It's hard to pick a side, and it's heartbreaking to watch them tear each other apart.
Also, WANDA.
It is so hard to rank the top five - or hell, even top ten - MCU films, but this one is up there. I just find it amazing that the Captain America's movies are among the best. We couldn't have predicted that ten years ago, but now it feels like it was always the way.
I always hated how they (mainly Tony) acted like Wanda was at fault for the initial explosion. Like, what was she supposed to do? Allow the bomb to explode on the ground, taking out Cap and all the civilians in the marketplace?
Well to be fair she had the entire sky to work with. She could have directed it somewhere else than into the side of the building. In the end it *is* her fault that it exploded where it ultimately did 🤷♂️
@@vashsunglasses Exactly. It was an accident in the end of the day.
@@Morten_Storvik You think she purposely aimed for the building? The power of the explosion overwhelmed her before she could get it all the way up to the sky, but her intent was clearly to get it high enough out of range that it wouldn't hurt anyone. Putting the blame on her for the destruction instead of Rumlow - and ignoring all the lives she saved on the ground - is like blaming the captain of a sinking ship for failing to evacuate every soul on board instead of blaming the ship that fired the torpedo.
@@vashsunglasses He literally said he didn't trust her not to cause another "accident." And that her being there was more for the public's safety than her own.
@@EmphaticNod Does not change the fact that the people in the building died because of *her* and that there where plenty of options to avoid it. If that captain had options that would have saved everyone on board and they did not, then he/she is at fault for those people dying 🤷♂️
RIP Chadwick Boseman 🙏🏼.
FYI: the guy who was in the bath tub dead was also in winter soldier, he was the doctor who faked Nick Fury’s death & also he’s the director for winter soldier & civil war with his brother they both directed those two movies
Zemo with the Batman level planning.
The most elaborate, batshit plan
She doesn't know how accurate that "Wanda is insane" comment really is
Steve has this weird way of always admitting more than he actually did. He had figured (just like I did) that it must have been Bucky who, while being controlled like a puppet, killed Tony's parents, but he didn't *know* for a fact until now, and either way, he had his reasons for keeping it to himself, which Tony showed us right after. Steve actually saved Tony from becoming the murderer of an innocent person, not that Tony appreciates that even one tiny bit.
One of my favorite MCU movies. SO good, and it really puts the rest of the films into high gear.
Gurl you're in for a treat.. this is where the fun begins
The movie literally telling you who that is “do we know who that is?” 2 seconds before “rumlow has a biological weapon” “what is it a pym particle?” Crazy but if you listen they tell you
"It's run by people with agendas, and agendas change"--Steve has learned much, and is now more knowledgeable and savvy than the others who kept making fun of him for being backwards and knowing nothing about the world.
I think Zemo is the most underrated villain in the MCU, he actually won, he succeded in his plan and he was a mere human, not a superhuman!
If Steve would have told tony about hydra killing his parents, could you imagine the vengeance fueled rage that tony would have been in Age of ultron?
Holy fuck, i did not even consider that. An angry tony making ultron? That ultron would have killed everything just like in What If. Thank god cap didnt tell him that.
I figure Iron Man's suit butt is there because Tony was so proud of his own butt that he figured it was a shame to just cover it with smooth metal.
He and Rogers are rivals so he needed to compete with America’s ass.
What infuriates me about this movie is how everyone blames the Avengers for deaths of few people, but ignores that bomb would have taken out hundreds and terrorists would have gotten away with a bioweapon without their intervention. No one even specifically mentions it when Avengers are discussing whether or not sign the accords.
Does not change the fact that its their fault that those people died. And that there were ways to prevent it.
I'm more annoyed that the only mention that Ross gets in their discussion was Rhodey mentioning him winning the Medal of Honor and not the fact that he spent 3 years chasing Banner around the world because he wanted to learn how to recreate the Hulk so that he could weaponize it.
@@leroy1154 Yeah, they should have thrown that in his face when he claimed they would retire if they did not sign.
To this day, Zemo may be my favorite "villain" if you can call him that, antagonist maybe is the better word, to date in the MCU. Top 5 at least.
"Come on Tony you have to understand" and tell me, would you... Understand, if you saw your most loved ones get murdered before your eyes, and the person responsible was right next to you, along with someone you thought you trusted but who had been lying to you all along? Would you.. "Understand"? I don't think anyone would. The real lack of empathy towards Tony completely reacting the way anyone would to that circumstance from all reactors pretty much is shocking
Villains who fight with mind are always most dangerous one and zemo i think best villain even if he is just a normal human. He just made Avengers fight each other
The sound you don’t like with Black Panther’s claws is because they are made from Vibranium which is the same metal as Captain America’s shield. His whole suit is made from it. You are correct that it seem like a bunch of movies going at once because it was introducing characters and expanding characters. I still like when Friday says “you can’t beat him hand to hand!” Then he analyzes his fight pattern. Genius. I think I said it in your last reaction but always keep tissues for Marvel 😉
00:06 hahaha this is literally my reaction everytime I watch Cap)
Such a well fricking done movie. And, really, the only actual villain in the movie, Rumlow/Crossbones/The Guy With The Good Hair, dies early on in the first part of the movie. Everyone else has just been made into something they never expected to be by events beyond their control. Even Zemo, villainous bastage that he was, is a sympathetic character when seen in perspective. It's brilliant.
From "I can't control their fear, only my own" to controlling every fiber of their being, wiping their memory and completely rewriting their entire existence. The growth of Wanda's character is unparalleled. I shaking and crying rn 😭😭😭
you guys will never see this but.. holy crap it is so nice to have someone react to the marvel movies who actually follows along with what's happening/has come before and what it means in that moment... Thank you for enjoying AND paying attention lol
I don't think there were really ever two sides to this whole "civil war", because Tony himself blatantly *violated* the Sokovia Accords as soon as he had a reason to. The difference between him and Steve is that Steve wasn't going to sign something he had no intention of honoring.
@6:14 Wanda was not only trying to save Cap’s life, but also the lives of everyone on the ground. I’ve always wondered why she didn’t direct the explosion up into the air away from the buildings. It seems that she would have been able to do that.
One of my fav mcu movies, love Capt America and ant man are my fav hero’s . When Scott first meets cap my fav moment. Scott Lang needs more love just saying;)
If Tony had only listened to what Peter said. When you can do the things I can but you dont, then the bad things happen, they happen because of you.
This movie made me think about my country and is running it. It may be the same with all parts of the world, but I feel it comes down to this. When there is a great power that is helping you, if you can't control it then it is against you. It is all about "Control". I understand the pain of the parent at the beginning who told Stark that her son died because of him. Yes as human we will blame those outside ourselves for our pain. All in all, when it comes to planetary, global, or universal protection, if we experience a loss, we will blame those who survive upon defending us. We will blame them for not defending those who meant so much to us. In this film, I have always felt such heavy heart and dislike. When it comes to the global attacks that have been experienced in the Marvel films, even tho there are those that risk their lives to stop the threat, those that have experienced a personal loss will always blame those who "saved the earth". Humanity seems to just naturally be selfish in nature. Even if it means the survival of the whole planet, if it costs you a life or two in order to save the whole planet and all the lives that live on it, you will still be greedy and selfish and try to bring down those that saved the whole planet just because the cost was a loved one. I guess that it is what it is. There is always the saying of, "I'm just human" which seems to be said as a defense when one fails. As to say that as a human i am not perfect so I am sorry that I failed. so to say that you are human please accept the fact that you are human and that as a human we are capable of failure so when failure happens don't blame the world for what went wrong.
45:21 Oh my god, that smile from seeing Stan Lee!
One of the best MCU films, broke me, very different to the rest
This is the saddest battle in all MCU and one of the most underrated movie in the franchise.
TEAM CAP.
Her chuckle is so cute
I love the slow realization and the gears turning as you figure out bucky killed tony's parents. I remember vividly sitting in the theatre Bc everyone realized it at the same time and all the women turned to their mans with shocked and hands on their mouths.