I'm blown away by the transistor efficiency in this generation of Canons--it's like a 2-generation improvement that definitely merits the refresh, even if it's not a flashy spec.
I've been waiting for a proper overheat test - most of the videos I've seen are people casually mentioning that it doesn't overheat, meanwhile they're shooting in Iceland, or the Canadian winter...
Hey Josh, thanks again for the test It tells a lot about the camera overheating behaviors. One note though. I guess this test is done in optimal conditions. Like the autofocus is ON but it’s not doing any calculations or work ( which stresses out the processor ) And the image stabilization is ON but again not doing any work. Other than that everything is excellent Thank you again we really appreciate what you do. 🙏
Good to know, thanks for doing the video testing! Coming from being pretty much photography only guy in the past , I'm still learning the video side of things and I appreciate your insight and knowledge. Cheers!
Will be interesting to see it in a hybrid use setting outdoors. I tried the original R6 as a hybrid sports user and it was unbearable so I picked up the A7IV to replace. I still have time to return it, but wanted to see some R6II reviews first. The 4k60 overheat time is not impressive to me and actually a little worse than the A7IV testing done on this same channel albeit with the screen open. Granted I shoot football highlights completely in 4k60 and regularly switch between photo and video during games.
@@Josh_Sattin agreed but similar is not enough to get me to return my A7IV and some of the initial videos and rumors that came out at the announcement of the Mark II claimed “no” overheating which is not the case. Nonetheless it is definitely a big improvement over the R6. My R6 overheated and shutdown shooting photos only early in the football season.
I just thought watching your video that if canon realise that they can just bring out a new camera rather than fix firmware it’s bad news for everyone.
@@Josh_Sattin thanks. It was the recovery time (and how fast it overheated shooting just 1080p in crop mode with EFS lenses) that had me move to an R5C. It sounds like this might be a little better but still not bullet proof. Big fan of your R5C videos by the way. They helped a lot when I first started with it.
Got my R6ii yesterday. Haven’t had time to shoot yet, but overall it looks great. I love having false color, but as a heads up you have to turn off ‘view assist’ when shooting in log to turn false color on.
@@dorythomas1816 yea I have a custom button set to turn false color on and off, but you can’t set a custom button to turn off view assist. So I have the view assist registered in one of the favorites menu tabs. It doesnt take that long to change it back and forth, but it’s not as convenient as I would like.
Both the R7 and R6 m2 have greatly improved battery life. Both have greatly improved overheating. With computer chips, this usually means improved manufacturing. Therefore, I don't think this would have been possible through a firmware update.
Have you already done a low light dynamic range comparison for photos with your Sony camera? Would be great if you can share the raw files as well. Thanks for content!
I was waiting for this video. Thank you so much for being such awesome Reviewer. May i ask you does the small rig cage maybe fit on the mark ii? I mean regarding the body of the camera. You thing it would fit ?
Awesome video! But would you rather buy a r6 ii or an A7IV? I’m a portrait, family, couple, and occasionally a wedding photographer! Thank you ahead of time
Hi Josh, awesome sauce bro, I'm really looking for Dynamic Range specs, nobody has mentioned if its any better then the original R6, but you don't have an R6 to compare?
My R6 mark ii never had the temp warning pop up while shooting video, until i got the ninja v and now it's always popping up after about 15-20 minutes. Doing the exactly opposite of what an external monitor is meant to solve and I can't work that out! It's only recording to the ninja v, and the LCD is off most of the time. Doesn't make any sense at all, I'm having to switch the camera off between recording when I never had to do that before using a monitor 🤔
Hey, does canon still use cr3 raw files? can you see them on your computer in thumbnails? or will I need to wait for a camera update? off topic but I gotta know lmao
Would love to see a test on 4k60 with external monitor. Also with an external battery grip, which i guess theoretically would reduce heat to the body from being farther and having another casing around batteries.
Thanks for the great content! I have some questions What about the cooling time? If you shoot 4k 24/30, do you still can shoot 4k 60 after that? Hope you answer, thanks alot!
I believe that you can. When the camera overheated in 4K60, I flipped it over to 4K24 and as it ran the temp meter started going down. I know this is the reverse of what you are asking, but the camera runs pretty cool in 4K24 so I think you could grab some 4K60 clips.
The real question is how long can you record in 4k60 after a long period of recording in 4k30. I suspect it's similar to the previous generation...i.e. not really suitable as your sole video camera. I've switched to 2x Canon c70's because ultimately the questions in your head around hybrid cameras stifle your creativity. I also don't like that in Canon's mirrorless cameras the assistance features can't be combined...i.e. no peaking And false colour, it's either or.
I believe that you can. When the camera overheated in 4K60, I flipped it over to 4K24 and as it ran the temp meter started going down. I know this is the reverse of what you are asking, but the camera runs pretty cool in 4K24 so I think you could grab some 4K60 clips.
@@Josh_Sattin that's good to know that it runs cool in 4k30. Ultimately for me it's better to have 2 cameras that perfectly match and that I know will keep going forever in any mode. But the R6 MK2 does sound like a nice upgrade ... Or rather what the MK1 should've been. Don't get me wrong, I still have my R6 MK1 and happily use it for casual stuff, but for professional work I don't want any questions in my head about whether or not the camera will wimp out on me at any point. You're providing good info here, and thanks for the reply 👍
My decision to buy this camera might literally come down to if the battery door-date change exploit still works to reset the timer or not. Can anyone test or confirm?
I believe the 4K60 crop mode on the Sony A7IV is a 4.6K oversample where the crop mode on the R6 II is a 1-1 4K readout. So, probably not much difference there. But, you can shoot 4K60 with the full sensor readout and a 6K oversample on the R6 II.
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks for the reply. Hope you'll be doing some side by side comparison and tests of both of these cameras. I own an A7iv, it might help new buyers to know which one to go for. This one definitely is tempting to buy if not for me already invested in e mount I'd pick this up.
Ok, I tested this. Yes, as soon as the camera overheated in 4K60 I flipped it over to 4K24 and it recorded. Also, the temp meter started going down as I ran the recording in 4K24.
@@baaaaaf Yeah I know. I was reporting it overheating right after it came out. The camera does overheat for long record times or in warmer temps in 4K24 and much faster in 4K60.
I'm blown away by the transistor efficiency in this generation of Canons--it's like a 2-generation improvement that definitely merits the refresh, even if it's not a flashy spec.
I've been waiting for a proper overheat test - most of the videos I've seen are people casually mentioning that it doesn't overheat, meanwhile they're shooting in Iceland, or the Canadian winter...
Great video Josh, this is an important video for the community. It will required a new test in the summer. Thanks for sharing!
You're welcome. Yeah, I wish it was warmer so I could test it in more challenging situations. Thanks for watching!
a teardown video will show whether the internals have changed from the R6 to allow for some heat dissipation
Has someone made a teardown video yet?
@@Josh_Sattin probably not yet, but someone usually does.
Hey Josh, thanks again for the test
It tells a lot about the camera overheating behaviors.
One note though. I guess this test is done in optimal conditions.
Like the autofocus is ON but it’s not doing any calculations or work ( which stresses out the processor )
And the image stabilization is ON but again not doing any work.
Other than that everything is excellent
Thank you again we really appreciate what you do. 🙏
Totally agree with you I’ve been thinking the same thing!
Good to know, thanks for doing the video testing! Coming from being pretty much photography only guy in the past , I'm still learning the video side of things and I appreciate your insight and knowledge. Cheers!
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Guess I will get this as addition to my R7, did wait for this, thanks a lot
You're welcome. Yeah, the R6 II will be great alongside the R7. Thanks for watching!
WAY TO GO!! Finally!! It was so frustrating in my R6 this issue! Thanks!
You're welcome! Thanks for watching!
Will be interesting to see it in a hybrid use setting outdoors. I tried the original R6 as a hybrid sports user and it was unbearable so I picked up the A7IV to replace. I still have time to return it, but wanted to see some R6II reviews first. The 4k60 overheat time is not impressive to me and actually a little worse than the A7IV testing done on this same channel albeit with the screen open. Granted I shoot football highlights completely in 4k60 and regularly switch between photo and video during games.
I got 66-70 minutes in 4K60 on the A74 in my previous video. That is in crop mode. The R6 II got 62 minutes in 4K60 crop mode. Pretty similar.
@@Josh_Sattin agreed but similar is not enough to get me to return my A7IV and some of the initial videos and rumors that came out at the announcement of the Mark II claimed “no” overheating which is not the case. Nonetheless it is definitely a big improvement over the R6. My R6 overheated and shutdown shooting photos only early in the football season.
I just thought watching your video that if canon realise that they can just bring out a new camera rather than fix firmware it’s bad news for everyone.
Thanks for testing! Glad it doesn’t really overheat. Mine is on the way 😁
You're welcome. Hope you get yours soon. Enjoy!
Any news on the recovery time once the camera overheats? That was the real killer with the original R6.
I didn't test that, but if I had to guess, it would be decent since the camera didn't feel that hot to hold.
@@Josh_Sattin thanks. It was the recovery time (and how fast it overheated shooting just 1080p in crop mode with EFS lenses) that had me move to an R5C. It sounds like this might be a little better but still not bullet proof. Big fan of your R5C videos by the way. They helped a lot when I first started with it.
Yeah cameras like the R5C and C70 are workhorses. Glad the videos were helpful for you. Thanks for watching!
I'm afraid it does overheat in the Dasht-e Lut even at 24 fps after 5 minutes of 4K recording...
Got my R6ii yesterday. Haven’t had time to shoot yet, but overall it looks great. I love having false color, but as a heads up you have to turn off ‘view assist’ when shooting in log to turn false color on.
Typical canon cripple hammer.
@@dorythomas1816 yea I have a custom button set to turn false color on and off, but you can’t set a custom button to turn off view assist. So I have the view assist registered in one of the favorites menu tabs. It doesnt take that long to change it back and forth, but it’s not as convenient as I would like.
Congrats! Yeah, I mentioned that in my first impressions video a few days ago: ruclips.net/video/-CiShLGnW_8/видео.html
@@Josh_Sattin 10 bucks says this becomes your new #1 camera
Both the R7 and R6 m2 have greatly improved battery life. Both have greatly improved overheating.
With computer chips, this usually means improved manufacturing.
Therefore, I don't think this would have been possible through a firmware update.
Have you already done a low light dynamic range comparison for photos with your Sony camera? Would be great if you can share the raw files as well. Thanks for content!
I will be comparing low light and dynamic range against the A7IV. I'm hoping to get those videos out next week. I just got the cameras a few days ago.
I was waiting for this video. Thank you so much for being such awesome Reviewer. May i ask you does the small rig cage maybe fit on the mark ii? I mean regarding the body of the camera. You thing it would fit ?
You're welcome! I don't know about the original R6 cage fitting on the R6 II, but it looks like they have a new cage coming out for the R6 II soon.
I read it won't fit without some small modification to the top of the cage, sanding off a few millimeters of the cage frame to fit the Mark II.
4K24/30 performance is good news! The battery life is also impressive.
I agree Tyler! Thanks for stopping by!
great video!Can't wait to see the comparision of autofocus against a7s3 or fx3 at night!
Thank you.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching!
Awesome video! But would you rather buy a r6 ii or an A7IV? I’m a portrait, family, couple, and occasionally a wedding photographer! Thank you ahead of time
ruclips.net/video/z_5EH-9lu24/видео.html
Yes
R6 mk2 is the best camera for me, i use it only for pictures so overheat will not be a problem
Thanks for the test, it is good. Can you cover about recovery period from overheat perhaps 4K 60 non crop setup?
What about recovery time? R5 had horrendous amount of time to recover.
I didn't test that, but if I had to guess, it would be decent since the camera didn't feel that hot to hold.
Hi Josh, awesome sauce bro, I'm really looking for Dynamic Range specs, nobody has mentioned if its any better then the original R6, but you don't have an R6 to compare?
Thanks! Yeah I don't have the original R6, but I'll be comparing the dynamic range with the A74 and R7.
My R6 mark ii never had the temp warning pop up while shooting video, until i got the ninja v and now it's always popping up after about 15-20 minutes. Doing the exactly opposite of what an external monitor is meant to solve and I can't work that out! It's only recording to the ninja v, and the LCD is off most of the time. Doesn't make any sense at all, I'm having to switch the camera off between recording when I never had to do that before using a monitor 🤔
Is there such thing as using an LP-E6N battery on a Mark2 and the camera sleeps on you?
My R6 ii can only record for about 32 minutes in 4k 60 😭
Hey, does canon still use cr3 raw files? can you see them on your computer in thumbnails? or will I need to wait for a camera update? off topic but I gotta know lmao
Have you tried with a Ninja V yet? Will the R6mk2 send 6k RAW video at 30fps? Thanks
Not yet, but yes, it will output 6K raw for external recording.
Does your R6ii overheat when you're sending the 4K24P to a Ninja V?
What about 4k60 external recording? Does it also overheats?
Would love to see a test on 4k60 with external monitor. Also with an external battery grip, which i guess theoretically would reduce heat to the body from being farther and having another casing around batteries.
Thanks for the great content!
I have some questions
What about the cooling time?
If you shoot 4k 24/30, do you still can shoot 4k 60 after that?
Hope you answer, thanks alot!
I believe that you can. When the camera overheated in 4K60, I flipped it over to 4K24 and as it ran the temp meter started going down. I know this is the reverse of what you are asking, but the camera runs pretty cool in 4K24 so I think you could grab some 4K60 clips.
@@Josh_Sattin thanks dude, what about cooling time?
The real question is how long can you record in 4k60 after a long period of recording in 4k30.
I suspect it's similar to the previous generation...i.e. not really suitable as your sole video camera.
I've switched to 2x Canon c70's because ultimately the questions in your head around hybrid cameras stifle your creativity.
I also don't like that in Canon's mirrorless cameras the assistance features can't be combined...i.e. no peaking And false colour, it's either or.
I believe that you can. When the camera overheated in 4K60, I flipped it over to 4K24 and as it ran the temp meter started going down. I know this is the reverse of what you are asking, but the camera runs pretty cool in 4K24 so I think you could grab some 4K60 clips.
@@Josh_Sattin that's good to know that it runs cool in 4k30.
Ultimately for me it's better to have 2 cameras that perfectly match and that I know will keep going forever in any mode.
But the R6 MK2 does sound like a nice upgrade ... Or rather what the MK1 should've been.
Don't get me wrong, I still have my R6 MK1 and happily use it for casual stuff, but for professional work I don't want any questions in my head about whether or not the camera will wimp out on me at any point.
You're providing good info here, and thanks for the reply 👍
My decision to buy this camera might literally come down to if the battery door-date change exploit still works to reset the timer or not. Can anyone test or confirm?
Is it normal feeling just a wee bit warm while taking pictures?
Did u record to both sd cards at the same time for your test? Also, did it save your video file when it overheated or does it just get corrupted?
I only recorded to one card during these tests. Files were fine.
Hello, thank you! And what light did you use during shooting yourself at this vlog?
You're welcome. Aputure 120D II with Aputure Light Dome II. There are links to all of the gear that I use in the description of the video.
@@Josh_Sattin and where was standing this light towards you?
Good video test for overheating...This camera no Overheating for 1080p in continuous record 2 hours right?
Thanks! I didn't test any 1080p, but Canon doesn't state any issues besides 1080p180fps. Also 4K24/30 has no issues. I think 1080p will be fine.
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks for your reply...compare to sony a7iv better or not ?
ruclips.net/video/cR9OD0nFpFE/видео.html
Over Hiting z6ii also
How long it took to recover from overheating?
Is the ibis wobble the same as in the r6 I?
Is the 4k 60 fps in crop mode also oversampling like the A7iv?
I believe the 4K60 crop mode on the Sony A7IV is a 4.6K oversample where the crop mode on the R6 II is a 1-1 4K readout. So, probably not much difference there. But, you can shoot 4K60 with the full sensor readout and a 6K oversample on the R6 II.
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks for the reply. Hope you'll be doing some side by side comparison and tests of both of these cameras. I own an A7iv, it might help new buyers to know which one to go for. This one definitely is tempting to buy if not for me already invested in e mount I'd pick this up.
Yes, I plan on comparing this a lot with the A74 since they are so similar in terms of specs and price.
I shoot weddings on 4k 60fps and it overheats after 20 min. 😢
So torn between this and r5. Money aside.
It's a tough call for sure.
Is your "Set" button crooked? Mine is on my R6 II...
Mine rotates just slightly. I don't know if I every would have noticed that.
So you only recorded to 1 card? Does it dual record to both cards?
I only recorded to one card during these tests, but yes, you can record to both cards.
After running the 40 min in 4K 60fps are you able to switch to the 24/30fps to continue without overheating?
Also curious about this!!
Ok, I tested this. Yes, as soon as the camera overheated in 4K60 I flipped it over to 4K24 and it recorded. Also, the temp meter started going down as I ran the recording in 4K24.
@@Josh_Sattin seem to remember on the original R6 it wouldn't even let you take photos for a while? So big improvement.
@@Josh_Sattin THANK YOU!
@@Josh_Sattin Thank you
I think that the 4k 60 can go much longer but the firmware is probably not stable at this point.
Interesting that Sony A7 IV never overheats.
The Sony A7IV does overheat. I have made a dedicated video about this and mentioned this in several videos.
@@Josh_Sattin okay, some RUclipsrs claim it doesn't.
@@baaaaaf Yeah I know. I was reporting it overheating right after it came out. The camera does overheat for long record times or in warmer temps in 4K24 and much faster in 4K60.
@@Josh_Sattin Thanks for the info! I binge watched all canon R6 Mark II and Sony A7S IV videos and still can't decide which one to buy :D
It's a tough call. Here is my comparison video: ruclips.net/video/0OfUBOtj_NM/видео.html
why using cannon since Sony never overheat, and if they complaining about colors then learn how to coloring and you will be regret to buy SONY !!!
Only Panasonic never overheat, some Sony models still can overheat.
At this price range, Sony overheats worse than Canon.
@@mbvglider Our A7sii has serious overheating issues. Our A7iii never overheats. I work a lot of outside events.