Canon R6 Mark II Shoots in ALL-I with this Recorder
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Any camera with a clean HDMI OUT can record INTRA format, which is ALL-I. The Atomos Ninja V and V+ do this with the ProRes Codec.
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You are the man. Thanks so much for putting this together so quickly. Clear, informative video. I’m still very much subbed, by the way! 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for posing the question! Challenges me to research too.
As you put it ... where there is a will, there is alwaus a way ... and RAW .. for the R6 Mk II .. has now arrived !!
GAMECHANGER!!!!! thank you so much for this!! couldn't find this info anywhere else
a lot of us would like to see a step-by-step video in which you hook up the ninja to the camera and demo how camera functions work (or don't work) with the ninja connected. thanks
I can try to get a video on that out there.
@@JaredHoyman great! thanks
Ninja rocks
Totally agree! So many applications of use for it. I forgot to mention how great they are on updating it all the time too.
@@JaredHoyman I’ve had my shogun for so long and it’s incredible
I think if you go to Atomos site 6k is right around the corner
Very helpful to me - Thanks!
This "ALL-I" Codec ought to be just a simple firmware update and nothing else. I got R6 Matk II on the launch date and I was pretty damn excited about it but that excitement is fading out slowly after using it for almost a year now. And IPB is just PURE CPU intensive. Do we have to upgrade our workstation every now and then, when a new camera like R6 Mark II comes out. I have no issues editing BMPCC 6K footages.... but finding it extremely hard to edit 4K footages from R6 MK II. We just need a BASIC firmware update to enable ALL-I codec for video and nothing else. Even those cheaper camera have ALL-I and why cant they put this in R6 MK II. I have been a Canon shooter for more than 12 years now, but i deeply regret investing on R6 MK II.
P.S.: If anyone get to see or read this comment.... Please don't buy R6 Mk II... Better go for BMPCC/ Sony / Fuji / Panasonic. ITS NOT WORTH INVESTING on Canon R6 Mark II esp. for video. Thank you.
I completely understand the frustration from the perspective of a pc user, but if you used a Mac with the m1 or m2 chip and Davinci resolve the argument is a non starter. Mac plays H265 files like it’s butter because it’s a native codec on their hardware and it’s the easiest thing to edit. I moved over to Mac in march and I have looked back. My pc had the rtx 3080 and a ryzen 12 core gpu and totally struggled editing h265. Almost 18yrs of editing I have never enjoyed it more than ever now editing on a Mac.
Thanks for the video.
Now, we want a comparison to see the difference in quality. Too bad we cant record to the sd cards in the camera while using the atomos.
Completely agree! Dual recording would be great. Atomos would be fast enough to dual record on the one ssd, but if canon updated firmware to allow recording on SD while using clean hdmi out that would be great!
Thanks!
Which pro res codec would you recommend to use with the ninja for the r6 mk ii? I shot my first video with it and image was sharp on camera- but when I pulled up the video on the ninja it was a a little blurry- I was recording via the ninja to ssd - in pro res 422. Am I doing something wrong? Focus peaking was on and I was sharp on monitor and camera.
This cud be the hdmi cable make sure you are using a high quality one.
If I'm on the go I shoot h265. Otherwise pro res or pro res light. I am releasing a video tomorrow morning that talks about if the Ninja v, v+ is really worth it when it comes to these cameras.
Sorry for the noob question. So if I put the r6 mark ii in C-Log 3, is that sent over HDMI to the Ninja V, so that I get the same dynamic range as if I were just recording internally in the camera?
Yes. That's why it actually makes more sense to just record internally. I just released a video today talking about using internal recording over using a Ninja Recorder.
Thanks for sharing. In December some say atomos will have an update for shooting 6k raw from R6m2 in january. Now it's february :( I'd like to see comparison beetwen R6m2 Raw and bmpcc.
I've been checking Atomos' website everyday now and I have been a little disappointed that the firmware update for the R6 II has not been out there. I'm really excited to try it out once we have it and I will post my results on the channel.
@@JaredHoyman they say now middle 2023.....
@ that stinks. Where did you see that?
@@JaredHoyman on atomos website > ninja v > supportet cameras > eos r6 ii > scroll down to bottom
I have All-i in my R5 and also had it on the A74 but never use it. Ipb is good enough. The only time I shoot all i is when I need to convert to Prores so I can edit the best quality in my free Davinci Resolve. However I discovered I can edit Canon R5 8k Raw light with the free Davinci without re encoding. With the R6mk2 clog3 I also re encode to prores 10b 422 of course I have a script that does it from my memory card reader to a cache drive. No issue with Davinci and I can edit realtime with an older Cpu and a 2060 card.
That's awesome! Good to know about prores lite working on the free version. I would like to make a video comparing the different codecs, size, efficiency in editing and quality of image. If you are using Davinci Resolve often, you may find the one time payment for studio is well worth it.
I would be interested in knowing how you did that script with the R6 II. Unless it involves an external recorder
@@shawnlabranche6852 its a windows script menu driven. The choice is prores or 8bit mp4 and also i chose the output size. Meaning 8k,4k,2k and so on. I also have a lut sub menu so I can add a lut into my prores or on the 8 bit output. Because most of my videos are family related or me shooting wildlife i encode to 8bit so I can store or watch on our tvs using a Nas drove or its for davinci for editing. I have a small lut menu that allows me quickly colorgrade without even touching davinci. So I enter the drive lette for my card reader and go through the quick choices and it does all the re encode as a bulk. I even have the black bars as an option to convert video into 2:1 aspect ratio.
@@JaredHoyman absolutely except this video/photo hobby is a money pit and a never endless black hole vortex of expenses. Second Im a Tech so scripting and doing my own thing is very satisfying. So far ai managed to get around needing the studio version but I much rather spend the 200 dollars on some better filters , nd , pl and bloom filters. Never ending. I can always find something new to buy for my hobby. Drone would be nice maybe a new gimbal. Better lenses. Heheh. But I am interested on how 6k raw looks once Atamos do their thing. Steve from Toronto. Love you channel.
@@tekguyphoto so wait it’s a card reader that does this ? What card reader?
Many thanks Jared, very helpful indeed. One question, ProRes is 10 or 12-bit?
I actually had to look that one up to be sure. So on atomos website under the R6 II it says all codecs are 10bit, BUT...it says "Up to 12bit with Linear Raw". I assume the 6k RAW is 12bit and all the rest is 10bit.
@@JaredHoyman thank you 👍
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Jared, can You upload video file All-I, because I am planning to buy Ninja V, just to try to edit and do color, so then decide is it smart to invest in that set up. Tnx..
you can do All-i in timelapse with r6ii : ruclips.net/user/shortsSj1gB_aDIjs
Hi and i hope you help me with this question please, can it also shoot DNxHQ with the Ninja V since i don't use a Mac and prores is not made for windows and Davinci Resolve ?
Yes. Ninja V offers DNxHQ.
@@JaredHoyman Hi and thanks a lot for answering me i really appreciate that 🙏🏼. I actually have the Ninja V and i use it with the Eos R for now but i wanted to uograde to the R6 Mark ii and didn't because i wasn't sure i can record with the Ninja V in DNxHQ in ALL I and not IPB since the R6 doesn't offer ALL I, so using the Ninja with it would give me an ALL I footage even though the camera doesn't offer it ?
Do you have a video with unedit photos and unedit video of the canon r6 ?
I posted one on editing in davinci resolve in clog3 from this past week.
@@JaredHoyman do yiu have the link please ?
Is Pro Res usable for anyone using Windows machine and on Davinc or Premiere Pro in 2023?
Pro Res is the easiest and least taxing codec to use on any machine especially windows. The downside is it creates a HUGE file.
Now it all makes sense... canon can not bring all-i to the original R6.. as it will have more bitrate, producing much more larger files easy to edit... but also The Camera will overheat... 2 or 3 times much more faster.... we already know how bad the cooling is...
also, the SD cards are not fast enough for all that data.. thats why other cameras that shoot All-I use CF cards too//
Hi 🙂
Thx for vid!
Question: Can you record 4k ProRes 422 to the Ninja V+,,, from the R6ii ?
(or will it only do the 6k raw?)
thx 🙂
You can record 4k 422 with the V+ That's in LOG.
@@JaredHoyman Ok thx 🙂
So,,, NOT in ProRess at 4k?
Thx
@@cre8ivecommerce Yes, In prores. You can record Prores 4k 422.
@@JaredHoyman so it’s in log pro res 4k and pro res 4k no log as well ? What about 6k external recording is it prores ?
@creativegreats yes to all. 6k hasn't been released on the Ninja yet for the r6ii but that will have the same as the others.
What do you think Upgrade to EOS R6 Mark II or get Ninja V?
Do you have the r6 right now? The r6 ii is an excellent upgrade. I don't use the Ninja v that often.
@@JaredHoyman yes
Do you use an Atomos recorder?
I picked up a Ninja V just to get around the overheating on my R6’s. I’ve used Pro Res and it is super easy to work with in post but the files are large. I paid for the upgrade to use h265 when I want a bit smaller file size. My Mac Studio has no issue with playback or scrubbing h265 in full resolution. Looking to pick up an R6ii soon. Hoping the Ninja V will support the 6k raw.
@@markk2473 it will support 6k raw but ow atomos says mid yr.