Repeat Offender Leads to "Three Strikes" | Analysis of Richard Allen Davis and Polly Klaas Case
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This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Polly Klaas?
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I grew up near Polly and I’m about her age. Her kidnapping really got to me, it was the first time I really understood the monsters that live in our society. I remember when she was found and they evidently arrested Davis. Seeing him for the first time made it all the worse. He truly looked like evil personified to my elementary school self. RIP Polly, you deserved so much better than this ❤️ 🕊
I'm so sorry
Is that you in your profile picture? Lol
yes me too. i'm from healdsburg, and was just 2 years older than polly. i was devastated. i still think about her from time to time.
Having my own 11 year old daughter at the time of Polly's murder, this crime had a more personal effect on me than any other crime before or since. To this day, whenever I drive past Cloverdale I always think of Polly. I used to stop by the memorial site where her body was found near the old Cloverdale teepee burner on the west side of Hwy 101, but now both the teepee burner and her memorial site have been removed. I asked someone in Cloverdale why the memorial site, with flowers and remembrances of Polly left there by many, many people, had been removed and the woman I asked said people in town didn't want Cloverdale to be remembered as the site where Polly Klaas was found dead. I think we as a society need to remember such horrors if only to act to make them far less common in our world. The Three Strikes Law was just such a move. No one who has committed as many, or even half as many crimes as Polly's killer had committed should ever be released from prison. At one time prior to Polly's murder I would have said I was against capital punishment for any number of reasons, reasons that are all still quite valid. But I remember at the time thinking that I could easily pull the switch to kill her murderer, and even today I just can't bring myself to forgive people for committing such crimes. I feel I owe that to Polly. I'll never forget her and I hope her young soul rests in peace.
Must have been terrifying for you back then. Had a friend who lived in Petaluma and she said she had nightmares of someone coming through their window.
"On at least 1 occasion, Robert fired a gun at the hallucinations. The hallucinations, survived." 😂
You're not only a true crime podcast master, but also a master at dry humor. Another great video Doc!
I'm suspicious he didn't verify that claim.
Right ? 😂
So true!! ☺️
You can't get any drier!
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This story still haunts me....
I met Polly’s grandfather years ago at a meeting in California. He told us the whole story & it ripped my heart out, and it still does. 💔
He recommended everyone should have a dog in their house. He feels if Polly had had the dog she always wanted the dog would’ve warned the whole household through barking
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So true! There are so many reasons to have a dog, and security is 1 of them. I think it’s cruel to make a child grow up without a dog.
I feel for him. Dogs are not only wonderful companions, they will protect. So will locking your doors.
💔 So heartbreaking!
@@stancexpunks Agree at least one pet in the household, dogs in particular are wonderful. I have cats now but loved our dogs growing up. ♥️
His crimes prior to the homicide alone should merit permanent jail time. They were so lenient on him.
The police fucked up really bad, too. They had him trespassing, being totally weird and suspicious and they just couldn't be bothered. Lazy cops can result in dead victims.
What a sad case. It's amazing how little time Richard Davis actually spent in prison despite his multiple crimes and sentences. Dr. Grande, you're right that society needs to be kept safe from people like Richard Davis.
You look like the transgender brother of Justin Bieber
This happened when I was a little girl and hearing about it traumatized me. It was a big deal, I remember it being all over the news and newspapers and magazines for a long time.
“the only thing Richard knew how to do was commit crimes”.
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I remember this case vividly. Listen, I have an antisocial sibling who is a 10-time felon in California. California’s 3 strikes law is a joke. They keep releasing my sibling over and over for 35 years and this guy is like a horse loose in a hospital. I have a criminology degree and have always worked on restorative Justice and Justice reform. These days, I believe antisocial people with repeat person crimes have no interest in learning how to behave among us and just keep compromising public safety. The best course of action is keeping a car with bad brakes that cannot be fixed - in the damn garage.
It just goes to show you that in the debate over nature vs nurture, there's more to it than just nurture because I'm assuming you and your antisocial sibling grew up in a fairly similar environment. My siblings and I grew up in a horribly abusive and dysfunctional environment and yet none of us became criminals. It's weird. That's why psychology is so fascinating and for some reason I have had a fascination with true crime since I was a kid lol. I was reading about Jack the Ripper when I was 12 or 13. Now at 66 with a smartphone and RUclips and podcasts I have all sorts of access to true crimes and criminals and Dr Grande is the best!!! His research is impeccable and his analyses are thorough and level headed and his humor is hilarious 🤣
"Mostly because of the murder part." Everytime Dr Grande says that it makes me laugh 😅
After studying this I think that the gender differences impacted my brother’s trajectory. Boys often externalization trauma and girls internalize it. However, I can tell you with certainty my sister has criminal thinking too. It’s fascinating, I agree w you.
How sad. Poor little girl.
Thank you Dr. Grande
I remember sitting in a bar in the afternoon, with a friend, when she was found. It was played on the television in the corner.
We both struggled to not break down.
There was a time when a child going missing, and being found in a bad way, for a bad ending, we were shocked.
We were shocked.
It’s hard to fathom how much has changed.
I almost resent the passage of time not bringing a better hope about people in general.
It’s depressing.
It's depressing that human waste like Richard Allen Davis can still be living all these years later without facing Justice.
@@frankpaya690 truth
The world is safer today than it ever has been. Crime rates have been dropping for decades. It just doesn't seem like it because we are now so interconnected; we hear about *everything* that is happening now.
This is such a tragic story. Polly was so beautiful and she had her entire life ahead of her. Richard Davis should have been locked up years earlier and they should have thrown away the key.
I was living in San Francisco at the time of this tragic crime. The public consensus was why was he on the streets and not in prison?
The Three Strikes Law morphed into where anyone with a prior conviction would get a third strike no matter how minor the crime. In Los Angeles a man with two priors stolen a loaf of bread and some canned goods for his hungry family and was sentenced to life in prison. His prior crimes were nonviolent offenses. There was a huge outcry.
You must be mistaken. Only certain major offenses are strikable, such as burglary, robbery, violent crimes in general. Petty Theft would only be strikable if he used a firearm during the crime.
@@evelynwaugh4053 that was the original intent, and maybe should have stayed that way. When the three strikes law was passed by the voters it included any felony retroactively and if the felon commited a misdemeanor while on parole or probation that felon would go away for a very long time.
@@13elad49 I'm a retired parole agent (CA). I've reviewed thousands of rap sheets. I've never seen a case such as you describe. In general, DAs and courts are so lenient, charges are reduced and plea bargained. I supervised one guy who had received 3 separate sentances for murder (plea bargained down) during his life, and was out on parole.
Good afternoon Dr Grande. I personally wonder if they had been kept in jail, that poor little girl may still be here. My sympathy goes too the family and loved ones of Polly. Thank you Dr Grande. Brilliant analysis , tragic outcome and informative topic.
I continue to be amazed at the fact that everyone is shocked and horrified by these types of crimes, but then it's only very few people who agree that cruelty to animals should result in instant and permanent removal from society. If cruelty to animals would result in the appropriate consequences, many of the most horrible violent crimes would never occur, as this is how so many violent offenders start out. It seems that this is the price of speciesism. Sadly it almost always has to be paid by someone who never got to have any say in this at all.
He has been on death row since 1996. This isn't justice for the victim. I remember this case. Maybe it wasn't a big story in other parts of the country, but in Northern California, the murderer made regular appearances on the local news. It was troubling: a monster who had a long history of violence ending with the killing of a child was defiant and unrepentant. This was a criminal cretin, an animal, to the core, and yet he walked the earth with his middle finger extended. I can only hope that he is having the most difficult incarceration experienced by any inmate.
I don't agree with the death penalty. It's a relief for the criminal. We are not supposed to give them a relief (and it's also wrong Biblically speaking), but make them labor in prison for the very last day of their lives to pay for his own expenses, but no media, no phone, no communication with the outside world and people. Not even books.
The death penalty keeps the prisoner out of the general prison population. No protection would be more likely to provide justice i.e. his death by others.
@@rchrd_sn I don't agree with the death penalty but I also don't agree with slave labor in prisons. Let him rot behind bars alone and completely ignored for the rest of his life.
I grew up in mostly in Petaluma, and think about Polly a lot, to this day. What a monster 😥
This is a very sad case. Thank you for the work you do Dr. Grande, keep up the great work!
Thanks again for your excellent analysis of Richard Davis and the "Three Strikes Rule," which is ineffective because in most states where this exists it is never applied solely to habitual violent offenders. And I concur with your conclusion that sometimes prisons must exist to keep deadly dangerous criminals out of society.
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Thank you for covering this case. This story was heavily televised when Polly went missing. It tore my heart seeing her dad fight so hard. I remember even Winona Ryder got involved in aiding for search & rescue offering a reward for information. It’s a sad case and one of few that never left my heart.
Have a wonderful evening.
This exemplifies how amateurs should not be allowed to write ballot initiatives they may become laws . A professional would have made sure it applied to violent felonies , and it’s a good idea .
"They were unable to regulate their intake of alcohol." What an elegant way to describe two drunks!
Love when your videos drop, Dr Grande.
Edit: Also, when the father fired a gun at his hallucinations and "they survived". Lol!
he says it like that most times. I like it better when he says "did not", since everyone is ABLE to regulate their intake of alcohol if they went into recovery. "Unable" makes them sound helpless against alcoholism.
As a recovering alcoholic, I love this phrase. Because I assure you, I absolutely CANnot regulate my intake of alcohol, and believe me, I tried. ✌️🍍
Edit: Rereading your comment I'd like to clarify: even in recovery, intake isn't regulated, it's eliminated altogether. Those of us who are like this are, by definition, helpless against alcohol itself (though not alcoholism).
So I get what you're trying to say, butt I take a slightly different view. ✌️🍍
I don’t know how you post such quality content DAILY - thanks Dr. G
Exactly right.
You hit this one out of the ball park. Thanks for covering this one. So tragic. Her father is a real hero in my book for all his work after her death. You are one of my heroes for all you do to help us understand human behaviour better. Thanks for all you do to help us understand human behaviour better. Keep up the good work and take care.
Dear Dr G, an aside I really like it that you only endorse products and services that you genuinely feel are worthwhile. Very appreciated.
I really appreciate that you're not diagnosing just speculating on events that could happen like this! 🤗
Nothin wrong with that 😜
Mhm
I think he got in a little hot water with characterizing subjects of his studies as "open to new experiences" "extroverted", "conscientious", etc, thus that is something Dr. Todd no longer does. A similar behavioral specialist on CNN said why he couldn't ethically diagnose President Donald Trump...but he DID say, "I feel the President struggles with facts and that his supporters may not find facts to be terribly compelling."
It's why Dr. Phil, as cheesy as he can be, never diagnosis famous people unless he can sit down with them face-to-face, which he did with wannabe cop Jeremy DeWitte and actress Shelly Duvall. Duvall, sadly, went twice as insane in real life as Jack Nicholson did in The Shining where she played his wife.
It's malpractice to diagnose a famous person based on speculation, but speculation itself is generally in-bounds.
Its all you can do. And very professional.
It did happen. I was in 6th grade when we saw it on the news. It happened in the city right next to mine. Very sad and tragic.
I have visited Petaluma. I recall lovely rolling farmland. It's discouraging to know Davis kept graduating towards worse crime. And startling to know a slumber party was the abduction site. Thanks for going in depth about 3strikes law; I wondered about the impact. And, yes, prison means containment of persons who can't/ won't improve.
Thx Dr Grande. Really do enjoy your videos …. I don’t know how you can research these cases & create these videos so frequently. Excellent work. 👍
he doesn't do adequate research sometimes and leaves important things out that he didn't come across in his research, but he generally does a good job. I don't think he looks at enough sources sometimes. I've watched almost all of his videos, though.
Lol, he’s essentially rewording the same synopsis you can find on Wikipedia
What a tragic, horrifying case for poor little Polly!
Your content is so brilliant and so appreciated, Dr. Grande! ♡♡
I really love your dark humour it’s next level. All the best to you Dr Grande. Mega big up to you!
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Also, he doesn't pick sides. He threw serious shade on Donald Trump in his Ivanka Trump upload, but he's also called into question Mr. Biden's mental acuity. Of the Trumps he said, "and Ivanka would receive $125,000 annually in alimony. Also, she would no longer have to be married to Donald Trump, which has to be worth at least $13 or $14 million right there."...but also, "I'm not entirely sure if Mr. Biden is fully cognizant of his Presidency".
Thanks for doing this story Dr. Grande, this is one I had requested. I grew up where this happened, just a couple miles away from where she was taken. Everyone was so afraid that something like this would happen again. Would you please consider doing a video on the crimes that Ramon Salcido committed against his family in 1989? This story is also from Sonoma County, California.
Thank you Dr. Grande for all your hard work. I appreciate you for providing us with valuable information, humor and even serenity 😊
Another great video, Dr. Grande! For a moment, I thought this regarding a different Richard Allen - involved in the Delphi case. Looking forward to your analysis on that update.
There is something Definitely wrong with the prison system. He Never Completed his sentences. Why, Why, Why, would Anyone think this guy had changed. His appearance is enough to Scare Me.
In court when sentenced to death, he stuck both his middle fingers up at the jury& the press filming him .
Well, his brothers turned out productive, so people that commit heinous crimes can not use this crutch. It is almost like he was possessed by an evil spirit. So sorry for Polly's family and friends. I understand she was always afraid of the " boogie man". Then he appeared right in front of her. RIP Polly. Very unfortunate that the 3 strikes law was distorted, and dysfunctional. Thank - you for your thoughts and opinions. And for your sponsor.
@@cht2162 If you mean his parents and upbringing, then yeah for sure.
Even with that, a person still makes decisions and has the ability to ruminate over the nature of what it is they do or don't want to do, and of themselves.
One thing that I can't recall ever being addressed is what reason Davis ever gave for picking Polly's house in the first place?
Punishment is useless for people who have no capacity to learn from it, but obviously dangerous people have to be separated from society anyway, at least for as long as they're dangerous. As far as we know today, that means for some people that they will have to remain in custody until they're dead, or so old and weak that they really aren't dangerous anymore. Or maybe until we find a better solution to solve this problem, but we don't have that yet. At least not ethically viable ones.
Thanks for your insight Dr Grande!!! Love to binge watch your stuff after a hard day of helping clients!
Excellent points as usual. Never a loss for terrible people or situations we can learn from😐Thanks Dr G 😉🧡💜
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Hey Dr. Grande, another amazing video! I just wanted to thank you again for all of the time and energy you put in to bring these educational as well as enjoyable videos to life. I hope you and your family are doing great! Have a wonderful day ^__^
Dr. I always watch your work and I really appreciate your approach and analysis. I don't comment very often but I'm always here.
Thank you for delivering your stories with such a calming voice. I like the ad too.
my heart hurt for little Polly... i feel like too many ppl and 'the system' let her down, maybe, just maybe she could've been saved. so many tangents, so many variants'.
[on the other hand your Sponsors really get lucky with you my friend.. you bring the human touch. i want Vessi shoes!]
3 strikes no longer works here in inland so cal as 5 felonies are plea bargained to 1 misdemeanor. Therefore, my sil is dead from repeat attacks. And my daughter barely survived repeat attacks.
Another interesting Sonoma County case to look into is that of Ramon Salcedo and the life of one of his victims, his daughter Carmina.
So glad you’re covering this one interesting!
It’s always Grande time! Let’s do this! Thank you grande for another interesting topic. I live in California so I’m very interested to find out more on this subject.
Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️
I like the shoe ad.
No screaming, hyperactive people jumping around, and no loud sounds (I won’t call it music).
Good commentary on the role prison can serve to society.
Criminals often report being mistreated as kids.
Thanks Dr. Grande for another great vid!
Thanks for your analysis, Dr. Grande.
Omfg I love the ad in the middle of this video. It made me smile so much. Dr Grande that was absolutely perfect
When fellow inmates need to step in because a judge doesn't....
If you recall, a rock'n'roll DJ out there put a hit on Davis. Inmates can buy headphones-only radios from the prison store, so he knew they'd be listening. He offered to put a lot of money on an inmate's account for finishing Davis off...but I think the cops contacted the DJ and his station and said even with what Davis did, they can't have radio DJ's soliciting vigilante justice; it's not covered by the First Amendment.
....👍🏽...appreciate your post ....also thankful & appreciate inmates carrying out their 'standards of morality' [?]
as to whom they want living amongst them .
I remember this case. It's unbelievable he kept getting out of prison. If this evil monster had stayed locked up; Polly would still be alive. Our justice system really stinks to high Heaven.
I was living in the Bay Area when Polly was murdered and followed the case. One image that stuck with me was of Davis giving the finger to the jury and everybody else in the courtroom after found guilty and being taken away by deputies.
Loved the Vessi commercial by drGrande!
Regrading the story, really great video 📸 and analysis!
Very interesting case. Love your videos Dr. Grande.
Well done, Dr. Grande. 👌
I like how Winona Ryder helped in the search.
RIP Polly
That example of walking around puddles really reminded me of the bit "Pierre Bernard's Recliner of Rage" on conan's old Late Night show. 🤣 love it.
This is so sad. Thank you for covering this.
Holy cow! Polly, too? As always, well done.
I remember this one because for the first time in my life, I wanted to kill someone. Davis is the worst of the worst. He literally has NO redeeming qualities.
Kind of reminds me of Jeffrey Willis. You may want to consider him for a video, too.
Great last line Dr. Grande!
I remember when this Horrible, Heartbreaking Case happened! I can't even try to imagine the Terror Polly went through! And her Father, and Family.💔💔💔💔🥀🥀🥀🥀🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊️🕊️🕊️🕊️ Also, Polly's Friends.🙏🙏🙏🙏 Some demons are in human form, and deserve the Death Sentence! But maybe, sitting in Prison till they die is better.
Articulate sense of humor the best on YT
Hey Dr. Grande, can you analyze Gothic King Cobra?
OMGGG YES! & his MAGNIFICENT “recipes!” (Or hell- even Kay’s Cooking… yummy 🥲🤢)
Good afternoon Dr Grande. Thank you so much for the great content you upload. Thank you Dr Grande, tragic outcome and informative topic.
Hi CT. - I hate when kids are involved in these crimes! No one should be harmed but especially children! 😓
@@bthomson I totally agree as a registered nurse in paediatrics, I've seen the worst of what people do too children 😢
I like the Vessi commercial that Dr Grande made himself.
I dunno man, if the cops said “hey bud we want to arrest this guy but we don’t have an actual reason so I’m gonna need you to walk over to him and shout ‘I ARREST YOU’” I probably wouldn’t do it either.
Yes thank you!!! Dr G was unjustly very judgmental
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I remember when this happened, I believe I was in middle school at the time.
I was living in Napa, CA not far from Petaluma and it seemed to hit close to home for a lot of people at the time
Informative and hilarious 😂.
Also, I want a pair of those shoes that you spoke about from your new sponsorship! 😍
Gonna check out the shoes...thanx Dr. G
I was on a jury where, we later found out, the prosecution was aiming for three strikes. The defendant had nine convictions for things like mugging. He had a low IQ with very bad vision, and would constantly lose his glasses. It was clear that he had indeed come up behind the victim and had stolen an address book and chap-stick from his pocket. I just couldn't participate in the sentencing, so I was excused.
Good Evening, Dr. Grande. I've got some catching up to do. 👌
Scoring a practice WAIS-IV I administered last week for grad school while I watch this lol. Love the videos!
Another good video. Thanks
Wow. I cannot agree more!!!! I have heard people say we need to bring the 3 strikes law back. Your points are on target! Thank you!!!!
Please make a video about Armin Meiwes
Hello 👋 good Dr. Thank you Dr Grande 😊
This was is unusually difficult & you were Sincere & Professional as always!! Rest In Peace Polly & Prayers to ALL Childhood Abuse Victims💜🙏🏼💜
Thank you for your comments. Do bear in mind that survivors may live but they are changed forever. In that sense, that which they call themselves does die and a new persona arrives.
@@IMWeira Thank You for your response….I can only speaking from my point of view, my own ‘Personal History’ & I can say that? I ( A Portion Of Me) will forever be “FROZEN” In Those Moments, In That House, In That Chaos Of Loneliness Wrapped In A Veil Of Uncertainty……There was never a ‘Changed Me’🤔 Only a person who has had 30 years of Therapy. (There Are ‘Medical Angels’ On This Earth👼🏽) I know that ‘Therapy’ does not erase The Fear, The Trauma~Jumping At ANY & EVERY NOISE….It only helps you Process It~Live With It & Know? I Am NOT Defined By My Past….
@@chikacherrycola9189 Just remember, you are not and never were the problem. That which is honed in fire can become an Angel of Good.
@@IMWeira You Are A Doll❤️ My Daughter?? Is a BEAUTIFUL Doctor & Associate Professor (Doctor Of Nurse Practitioners😇) And I have THE MOST GORGEOUS Granddaughter~She Is PURE Sugar😘 Blessings To You✨😻❤️🌹
@@chikacherrycola9189 The best revenge is a good life. Sounds like you made generations of good living through generations of loving and living your life.
Howdy all. I AM speculating and judging.
@@captainmeowzers You mean a full speculation and judgement^^
Master ....hell yea.....me too. I always do...and I KNOW whoever and whenever they do the same to me.......🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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His “criminal career” is very extensive and frighteningly impressive😭😱
So sad for Polly😪
Yes the trajectory of Richard’s career was clear - it is sad that Polly lost her life to get Richard of the street.
Such a sad story that should never have happened. God bless Polly Klaas
Thanks DR.GRANDE, RIP POLLY
Nice stuff !! You should cover the Delphi murders
Dr. Grande, please consider Carlie Bruschia or Sheila Bellush.
On at least one occasion, Robert fired a gun at the hallucinations. The hallucinations, survived. That statement took me out. I enjoyed the laugh 😅
Dr Grande ~ would you consider covering the Rhoden family massacre?
This criminal reminds me of a character named “Darby” from the movie “Law Abiding Citizen”. I wish what happened to Darby would have happen to him.
"...the hallucinations survived."i usually laugh but that one got me good...💀
Early today, Dr. Grande😊
I hope you and all of your subscribers are doing well!
Thanks Missy!💐
@@bthomson awww you’re so kind. Thanks💐
Very interesting to hear the origin of "Three Strikes."
That guy just sounds dangerous, it really doesn't sound like he was going to stop.
I imagine the officers at that one place intuitively knew he was a major criminal but did not have the physical evidence to prove it.
That poor girl, what a crappy deal.
Dr Grande take this W 🙌
I remember this crime and court in the news...gave me great anxiety for the safety of my children.
3rd strike laws would prevent recidivism after the 3rd strike and an imposition of real life sentences.
As a native of the Golden state, I could spend the next three hours writing about our broken justice system, but I think the history of Richard Allen Davis says it all. A couple years ago I watched a documentary about prison overcrowding in California. Some inmates serving life sentences said conditions inside were so awful, they envied those on death row. One inmate being interviewed was three years into a ten year sentence for, of all things, odometer tampering. The world is a much safer place with him in prison.
Dont do the crime if you cant do the time.
I know that first outfit!! One of my favorites