Police Arrest Elderly Grandmother for Feeding Public Home-Cooked Food | Norma Thornton Case Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 27 окт 2022
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Nothing like making laws against being a decent human being
We should find a way to utilize these people as humanely as possible.
Perhaps we can form concentrated work camps to keep them in. It'll alleviate having them just idling on the streets, and they can help fix labor and supply shortages.
I'm not going to even give you a legitimate response bye bye now. You can type anything else but I won't be reading it
The new ‘murica!
America, the land of the non-free
@@christopher.m.dickinson0315 Good I think that’s good because apparently you are not a human being
"She might be ordered to do community service. Maybe something like feeding the homeless... for the crime of feeding the homeless." The unbelieveable nonsense of mental jujitsu to never help a homeless person is insane to me.
As a person ordered to community service I would like to have an opportunity to work with the houseless in the same area.
The Bullhead city council issued the ordinance because it does not want to attract vagrants and all the problems they bring with them, such as drugs and crime, to its town. That is understandable.
The American mind frame has been broken for all of its 250 years
It is truly an upside down world.
Could just hope that those that make laws to prevent helping the homeless to become homless themselves to feel the effect of their "public activity".
Once in my life I have seen karma at work and I swear it was glorious! The dictator Nicolae Ceausescu made a law to restrict the gas consumption to 10 liters per month (about two gallons). When he tried to run from the angry protesters , his secret service hijacked a passing car ... that had less than two gallons of gas in the tank. So the dictator was finaly apprehended. Couldn't reach his anti-atomic bunker in the mountains.
He was judged and condemned to death by a military court. The sentence was executed. Then the law was changed so there is no death penalty in Romania. He was the last to "benefit" from his law.
Praying to see karma at work in this case as glorious as it did over 30 years ago with the Devil Dictator.
This case speaks to how totally messed up our values systems are in this country. This is not the first time I have read of providing food or water to those in need being criminalized. This country has over 600K people who are known to be homeless and probably more who are not counted. Budgets to provide services to those in need are regularly slashed as if not providing services will make the problem go away. Nothing is more despicable than criminalizing charitable acts.
You're right that criminalizing charity makes no sense, Dr. Grande, and that the city council all look like fools. It sounds like the ordinance was designed specially for Ms. Thornton and her generous activities. I understand that sharing a public park with homeless people can be challenging, but homeless people are people too. It only takes one major illness or financial disaster to put any of us homed people in the same situation. Incredible. Thanks for what you do, Dr. Grande.
I am having trouble understanding what the difference is; if someone were to get ill, sick, or injured, whether in the park by themselves, with their friends or family, at a charity function, or at a corporate event... what is the difference on whether the park is liable? And why would they be? I don't even think that's the reasoning behind the ordinance though. And like you said, homeless people are people too, they are still citizens. They aren't illegal aliens. So beyond the fact that some people just feel repulsed by being around those they feel are beneath them, I don't see why they can't be in a park and eat there like anyone else. I see others commenting here that the parks are not a rehabilitation or assistance center but that's not what she was doing. People were eating. People eat in parks. I just want to understand why they created the ordinance in the first place.
@@YTStoleMyUsername You make a good point about liability; I'm not sure how that would work. I doubt the city council will share their reasoning with us, but the very specific nature of the ordinance seems to indicate that it was targeted. Packaged foods were fine with the city council, and I'm fairly sure we can get sick from them, too. Interesting.
@@YTStoleMyUsername I'm pretty sure "liability" is a red herring. It's getting cited because saying "liability" makes people nervous. There's no compelling concern about liability that I can see. Homeless people (with rare exceptions, because there are probably always rare exceptions) do not tend to have either the desire or wherewithal to sue anyone if they get sick from eating bad food. Even if someone DID try to sue (for getting ill from food that they ate because they had no other ready access to food), how far would they get? The case would get thrown out.
It actually does make sense. Maybe the residents care about their town and don't want to see it become another Portland, OR or Oakland where kids can't play in the park because the drug addicts have overrun it and made it dangerous.
100% ❤
I’m from Bullhead city Arizona. I feel like this is a crime against humanity. Leave Norma alone and let her and others help people. She did nothing wrong. I’m so saddened by this.
if anything she should be rewarded
@@aymunz I agree
Every farmer knows, what you feed, you get more of. This lady should have been redirected to the soup kitchen. Not the criminal justice system.
I hope she has support there. Are there citizens siding with her or protesting?
It sure is a crime against all decency and morality
I cannot imagine how many spirits she uplifted doing this. We need to clone Norma, not arrest her 😩
Love is all well and good what we need is solutions! Jobs and homes with all the effort that that takes ( mental health councilling, drug treament, housing, transportation, etc.). Homelessness is a huge problem that throwing money at does not solve.
I would be willing to spring for a Happy Birthday banner and could regularly send Norma balloons for her homeless 'parties'.
The establishment needs to get out of her way. She is actually doing something!
@ B Thomson. How does money not help this problem? Last time I looked, food costs money and housing costs money.
@@DH-ve5bl Because homelessness is complicated. Multiple studies show that San Fran spends between around $80k - $100k on for each homeless person (per rate for all the programs including admin costs). This is similar in other cities. There are free places to eat and sleep for each person. Some people are unlucky enough to have addictions and mental health problems while lacking external support. Furthermore, its challenging to get a job with no permeant address in the best of circumstances. The money is often there, but innumerable tradeoffs and incentives exist. The problem is hard to solve at scale.
She's a modern day mother Theresa, 😍
Truly a screwup world when someone is arrested for being generous.
Homelessness has become such a big problem in North America. I live in Canada, our cities all have homeless encampments. Clearly we need a new system for helping people get back on their feet. But you know what doesn't help the homeless? Arresting people like Norma. It's just so ridiculous.
If I were Norma, I would go to the dollar store, buy a "Happy Birthday" banner and some birthday hats to re-use everytime she served food.
BEST IDEA EVER!!!!
YES!!!
Loop holes only work for people at the top
It would probably be someone's birthday in the crowd 🎉😊
@@agriffin5308 The police would probably ask for ID to prove their birthday.
Norma is a generous, kind hearted human being. Okay, so some “respectable” people complained about the homeless being in a public park, and Norma was in effect guilty of drawing them there with free food. Yes, I agree with Dr. Grande, the smart thing that the city could have done was to designate an area in the park for Norma to distribute the free food, instead of arresting her.
You are missing the whole point of Arizona's ruling political party.
Arizona is run by Republicans. And their whole shtick is "f**k poor people". Only rich white people matter. If you rewatch the video please pay attention to the way the laws were specifically written.
Our government poisons and kills at county, State and Federal levels! Our evil
Homeless have the same rights to “public” parks as people with homes. You hit the nail on the head though: they are considered to be “disreputable”. So very often, that’s not the case at all.
@@scarlettphoenix7024 exactly, she isn’t guilty of drawing anyone who shouldn’t be there to the park
Or how about not do anything at all bc houseless ppl are, shocker I know, ppl too. They can be in the park just like you can. Grow a heart.
This is absolutely reprehensible! Leave this woman alone. She’s doing way more than many of us do. I think the city just wants the homeless out of sight, out of mind. Disgusting! I hope Norma (or another local) will help out at that park… put up a “happy birthday “ streamer each day and have a family cookout.
God Bless Norma! ❤️
It's true, they want homeless people to disappear, but, shelters are full and there is nowhere to go
Gods work helping the helpless
Just don't come screaming when those "homeless" start camping out on your patio. You talk about out of sight out of mind until you're the one who has to deal with it, Karen.
@@cindypaulhus3701
If god were actually real there should be no homeless. It boggles the mind that anyone could believe in a god that supposedly loves people yet created parasites, earthquakes, asteroids, tornados, child molestors etc to kill them. Just a bizarre thought process to praise a god for all the good things we have yet never blame it for the bad things it does.
@@judyives1832 yeah, but that's all because of free will....
...somehow.
and God works in mysterious ways...
How ironic is that part of her sentence is to perform community service when that was what got her arrested in the first place.
The officer was recorded saying "ugh I know dr grande is going to roast my ass for this.."
Arse
My mother also goes out and feeds her local homeless homecooked meals, and I am constantly worried she's going to get arrested one day. We are in CA and she has been warned by police before that she "can't do that." You'd think instead of harassing people like Norma and my mom, these cities should be thanking them for their service to the community!
That’s not the way. Apparently you have to start a foundation, have a lot of people contribute to it, use most of it for yourself and give a percentage to actually help people. Then they say, “perfect.”
Freaking bass ackwards world!
You should be more concerned of her being robbed or beaten instead of being arrested in CA.
You can legit steal from stores with no repercussions. What are you, a basement dweller?
@@robbobbrah8953 how did you come to that conclusion?
@@robbobbrah8953 Of course I'm concerned about that too, which should be obvious to anyone without saying. Who wouldn't be? I would think most people reading my comment would understand that particular additional worry is part of the package without it having to be explicitly stated, especially since that's not the topic of this video. I've talked to her about it many times, but she's adamant about continuing to help regardless of the risks. I don't live nearby, and even if I did what would I do, lock her in a room 24/7 to physically prevent her from trying to help people? Thanks for the negativity. I don't like to assume the worst of people, so I hope if you're just having a bad day it gets better.
@@robbobbrah8953 ⬅️ somebody’s gets their news from an information silo.
Doc, you nailed it @10:16 w/ "There was no need to become heavy-handed." Decades ago in the Oak Cliff region of Dallas, a widow lady (say in her 70's) served food in her back yard through the kitchen window. You showed up with 50¢ and she would hand you a pretty ample plate of food out the window. No selections, no choices--eat or don't. Everyone ate (she was a good cook!) sitting at the picnic tables in her back yard. Maybe two-dozen or more each day for lunch as far as I can remember. ...then the city got involved. Police showed up and 'warned' her (wasn't unusual for cops to be eating). Something about permits, food safety, yada, yada, as if a woman who had cooked for over a half-century to feed husband, kids and grandkids doesn't know how to serve a 'safe' meal. She moved to the 'donation' system: eat for free and if anyone wanted to donate, there was a tip jar on one of the picnic tables. Well, THAT didn't fly, either. She got pulled out of her home, cuffed and stuffed. No one ever got another meal. Here we go again--some lady trying to do a nice thing for homeless folks and folks in power go barking mad. DA's involved. Cops involved. Judges involved. Jeepers!--almost enough to make a Libertarian out of me!
This is bureaucratic bologna por cierto!
That's so ridiculous!!! What's going on down there in America, my neighbours?? I'm flabbergasted
@kweenz109 Unfortunately, the government in America is now much bigger than it was ever created to be by its founders. It seems to have emboldened the government to feel entitled to control the lives of its citizens in various ways. Unfortunately, many of those citizens are cheering it on because it meets their current opinion and standards until one day, it inevitably flips on them too. From what I understand, many 1st world countries are dealing with different forms of the same kind of problem.
I used to be homeless and it was very hard to find a homemade meal. The company next to where I was living came over and I thought they weren't there to complain. They said we have been watching over you and wanted to bring you a meal. We were so surprised. I thought everyone hated homeless automatically. I will never forget the kindness in that dark time. Please don't give up on them. I made it out because of kind people and want to do what this lady it doing.
Graciousness, ever refreshing!
This is class warfare at its worst. Attacking care providers is about as low as is possible. Shame on Bullhead City council for their scumbag behavior!
NORMA FOR PRESIDENT!!!!
I’m quite sure the prosecutor did dismiss the charges with prejudice. They knew right away that this was going to attract the kind of attention that no city / county wants to attract. It’s a public relations nightmare and their local legislators just created themselves a mess.
What a fighter this lady is. She’s still out there cooking food for the homeless. 💜
I bet that Norma is a really good cook. I would love to taste her food!!! Norma's Catering Service!!! Yum, yum.
Older women are the best cooks. A lifetime of experience melded into their home cooked food.
I can’t believe how ridiculous this case is! What a beautiful human being Norma is. 🥰
May God bless her 💕🙏💕
Dr.Grande had me laughing out loud discussing the rules in this unbelievable case!
He is hilarious!😂🤣😂
This entire world is upside down and twisted. Everything that is good is evil and everything that is evil is good.
You are so right. I don’t try to tell others how to live or think but your words are stated originally by the Word of God in Isaiah 5:20-21. “Woe (judgement is coming) to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! -21; Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and shrewd in their own sight!”
There are a couple more scriptures related to this very situation in Romans 1: 18 thru 23. Anyone can always google if they don’t have a Bible. I’m not preaching, but the fact that the world is ‘upside down and twisted’ even by our own standards of thought and witnessing exactly what it is in our humanity… and watching what happens when humanity has told God to go away….😳. Enough said. And Thank you.
I worked at a major grocery store in the deli for years. At first, we would give our leftover food to the local food banks and churches. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT MADE US STOP!!! We had to throw perfectly good food in the trash.
That's criminal
@@katiekarakondis3348 Sometimes cops or health department officials will pour bleach or something over food in dumpsters to prevent people from eating it.
Pure evil! They want depopulation bottom line
@@katiekarakondis3348 that's America 🇺🇸
Because it's healthier for people to go dumpster diving.....(sarcasm)
"We can't have good people's contributions to the community making us look bad, so let's make them criminals" - City Council
She should be awarded a medal and million of thank you's.
What a nice, kind, wonderful woman. Does she by any chance have a gofundme?
The city council really woke up and thought “let’s target charities today” disgraceful.
Val: No they didn't. They will have been wondering about how to solve the problem of 'the homeless' invading the park and hanging around the area for some time, due to other citizens complaining about them being there. Their strategy , however, was to become aggressive with Norma and try to throw her out of the park along with them. I agree that they could have been more patient and humane, and found another way of dealing with 'citizen complaints', which is what it boils down to - 'upstanding' people with homes and jobs don't want the homeless hanging around in their social areas.
No. Charities are the groups that collect tons of free money...then spend most on themselves and a tiny leftover on the alleged recipients of the largesse!!!
@@Faristol7 I’m talking about the policies they implemented
@@withgoddess7646 yikes lol
I've never thought "WTF" so many times in a Dr Grande video. I'm glad she filed and I hope she wins!
Are you effing kidding me? This sweet kind hearted amazing woman was arrested for feeding ppl who are down on their luck? Ms. Norma knows what it feels like to not have anything. My God 5 children on a school bus living off the kindness of others. I know that was a tough job that takes strength! All she is doing know is paying it forward! I'm pretty sure they have real criminals running around that city yet they chose to arrest a woman who is doing a wonderful service IMO! A round of applause for people like Ms Norma 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Same thing happened to an older lady here in Georgia. It’s ridiculous that you can’t help people.
I always laugh when someone says "this is a Christian nation" because we do some of the most unchristian things ever. Like going out of our way to make life miserable for the people who have it the worst. Stuff like this is why I laugh and say "so what?" whenever I hear the phrase "the middle class is suffering". They aren't suffering. The homeless are suffering because of upper and middle class people who see them as less than human. Usually those same people claim to follow the teachings of Christ
I think Norma is a wonderful human and I hope she wins the law suit.
I think it’s horrible the police arrested her.
I totally agree with everything you said . . . including it was horrible Norma was arrested. But the police should not be blamed for arresting her. The police are not responsible for writing the laws . . . they are responsible for enforcing them. If the officer involved would have refused to enforce the law, he or she might have been fired for not following orders.
The blame for Norma's arrest lies with each and every member of the city council who wrote the ordinance that was so clearly directed at Norma AND Norma's fellow citizens who complained about the homeless population being in the park and "ruining" it for them.
@@jeanag3279 Cops have discretion and they failed to exercise it. Fuk those Uvalde style cowards.
@@jeanag3279 so are you saying she gona lose the case
@@sovietspy9844 Not at all . . . and I truly hope she wins and wins BIG!!! The only thing I am saying is the people to blame are the city council members and citizens who complained.
In Jesus name, so be it. Let her keep feeding with love......
Whatever happened to civil disobedience? Norma and other like-minded people should continue to provide this service despite the inane bureaucratic obstacles put in their path.
Dear Dr Grande: this episode broke my heart because not only the unfairness, but the absurdity of it all. As you said, shame on the place department that allowed this to happen. This episode, and most of all, your reaction are examples of the reason why I follow and appreciate you. Your channel is more than entertainment or education... its also a way to show the unfairness our society might encounter. Thank you 🌷
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Who is this law supposed to benefit? Who is gaining what by punishing an elderly good samaritan. This law sounds like targeted cruelty, in my opinion.
They should have just worked with her on a plan to feed the homeless instead of criminalizing charity. When we treat the least of us as animals we become the animals.
Please do not make comparison to animals/humans Animals never behave like this and never will Its very insulting (to all animals)
@@lisamac8503 I don't care if it's insulting to animals because they can't feel bad since they don't understand language.
This is the best example of crooked government officials bullying decent people that I’ve ever seen. Without the public attention, they’d have put her in jail for 4 months. This is why limited government is so important.
Thank you for covering this, Dr Grande.
"No good deed goes unpunished"... is the apt response, I regret to say. Nothing surprises me anymore.
Your humor... better than ever.
Best wishes, Doc.
Benita
no good deed goes unpunished.
So sadly true 😞
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🎃 Muhahahaa 🎃
That city council must have multiple degrees in irrational cruelty onboard. Good lord. This is egregious.
They took it way too far and you can tell they were targeting charities
Typical of Maga
Yes. The bill was specifically written to prohibit Norma from her feedings and make it const-prohibitive. The Anti-Norma Ordinance.
@@queenreg7 I can’t imagine enacting a policy with the intent to arrest a specific person is going to go well for them in the lawsuit. I hope they lose miserably.
@@Valcera I am sure they will.
Norma reminds me a lot of my mother who taught me a lot about generosity and helping people who are in need. We used to go out and help the homeless when we could, and volunteered in my local church for food drives. My mom was also named Norma lol.
Who arrests a person for feeding the hungry? That is as pathetic as it gets. The city council is pathetic. I can't believe this.
The city should have partnered with Norma and had shelter/housing reps/job placement reps at the park to help any homeless who are seeking assistance. AA/NA could have been contacted to have someone there in case any homeless with substance issues was ready to get help. AND I think the city should offer her assistance by having people ordered to perform community service help her. This could have been a PR model instead of a nightmare.
PS: You slayed it with "Possession of a sawed off hot dog used in the commission of a charitable act."
This is an important comment imo. 🎖🏆🏅
Love this comment. Make a difference not an arrest.
This is brilliant. Solutions instead of condemnation.
Good management always says bring solutions, not complaints. Obviously this city is not managing its issues very well at all and that's very sad.
Good ideas. Additionally, perhaps some people there offering jobs so they could earn money. That would be a constructive effort.
This is heartbreaking 💔. What a lovely woman, the world would be a better place if more of us were like her. Thank you for brining attention to this story, I had no idea. You're the best Dr.G.
You expressed my thoughts perfectly, Anja X TV! My boss recently complained that she's tired of being scolded for being constantly available for someone having a psychotic episode, or having withdrawal symptoms, or to talk a steamer off a ledge. She's disheartened when the people she's assisted repay her by throwing a brick into the office door, or leaving anger notes on her doorstep, or when their families tell her to back off. And I get it, because I aspire to be like her in every way! Norma is another role model, and I hope many people learn from her how to human.
This story is like "Don't feed the birds" signs because if you feed them, they don't go away!
But we're talking about people, having a tough time, who need help.
It's so sad that people complained about transient people being fed because it ruined their family park vibe 😔
As someone who experienced homelessness for nearly five years of my life this makes me feel a flood of anger an sadness ...
I got so tired of people telling me during that period of my life "but you don't look homeless". Why would I want people to know my housing status (or lack there of) because of my appearance? Especially being a single woman it was extremely important that I blend in. I wanted to be able to use any bathroom i wanted, to interact and engage with the community without being shamed, judged and dismissed.
I realize that all judgements are expressions of unmet needs.
We all want safer, cleaner communities and the only way I see that happening is by realizing that we are all here together. We are all citizens of our towns no matter where we sleep at night, how much money we have, and so on. When we actually start caring about the wellbeing of our fellow humans, even if we don't understand some of the outward manifestations of their trauma response or behavior. The attitudes around substance use/addiction and mental health challenges are shocking. When we start to care more about people's mental, physical and emotional health and seek to offer assistance over jail sentences real change will be possible.
This has also happened in Tampa. A grassroots organization Food Not Bombs was detained while feeding the homeless in a public park in the city a few years ago. This is cruel and it makes no sense at all.
I totally understand how people are worried about "enabling" homeless people and some of their behaviors, such as pushy pan-handling or being aggressive in asking for food/money. Totally understandable. It's a real thing in many cities. All that said, no one should EVER get into trouble for feeding the homeless. Period. Ugh. What a world we live in.
I agree very strongly with not enabling the homeless.
Yeah it’s one thing to give money but it’s different to give food. Although I do see a LOT of trash around where people panhandle in my city, where they just throw the food on the ground bc they want money instead. And I know many panhandlers aren’t actually homeless. There are also many who can definitely work but choose not to. Or parade their kids in the heat or cold for more $$. It’s a big problem around here.
Edit : for clarity
@@HeatherHolt Yes I live in LA and the homeless encampments are a hot bed of drug use, drug sales, fights, massive piles of garbage, fires and now innocent citizens are being attacked and murdered. At this point, with as bad as this whole subculture of living off the grid has gotten, I have zero tolerance for the homeless and refuse to donate food or money. Just can't do it anymore. I'd rather be sure my hard earned dollars are going towards people who are doing their best to regain a footing, but you can't really know that for sure. It's just so, so bad here.
@@blueeyedwolf2205 There’s a RUclipsr (Soft White Underbelly) who interviews people who live on the edge of society for one reason or another. He interviews a lot in LA.
I agree with what you’re saying about the vest majority of individuals in those camps in LA. I have seen a couple of people who are doing everything within their power to change their lives & see homelessness as a VERY temporary step. Helping these people financially will greatly shorten the time that they are exposed to danger & vulnerable.
The great majority of homeless people have mental health conditions & addictions to drugs &/or alcohol. I consider these individuals as vulnerable & in great need. As Norma proved, you don’t have to give “loose change” to help those in need. If it’s all that you have time to do, it’s better than nothing!
@@blueeyedwolf2205 enabling someone with nothing is an oxymoron. My city has tons of homeless, but there are still ppl. It seems the US has the issue were they think homelessness is a divine province. It is not. It is the sigh of a shity society that allows shit to happen to children that then grow into adults. And does not give a shit about anyone with a disabling mental illness. It is a sigh of the values of a society in how they treat there homeless and mentally unstable.
Dr. Grande, thank you for bringing this story to light. I've had and attended many get-togethers at parks where food has been prepared and provided. What happened here is clearly a twisting of the whole point of our country and heartless. I think people like that expect poor and/or homeless people to just disappear because they don't want them to exist. They don't think or care about consequences of their actions while many claim to be good Christians. Your point about her being arrested for performing a charitable cause and then being required to do community service, I hope, won't fall on deaf ears.
All that are involved should be ashamed of themselves . Never criminalize acts of compassion .
The irony is that the city council is there to help people, unless you're homeless. She's doing voluntary community services daily, but that's not allowed. Make it make sense.
They hate homeless ppl so much everywhere - they hate us when we try to help ourselves, or each other.
Often we don't need $$$ but just some small freedom to exist...to go to work, to sleep...
They want the $$$$ but not to help anyone unless THEY decide. It's wrong. All wrong.
“Are there no prisons?” “And the union workhouses? Are they still in operation?” “If they would rather die, they better do it, and decrease the surplus population.” Ebenezer Scrooge. Some things never change
@@jdelaney4158 Even muppets speak the truth! 😁
@@jdelaney4158 I love ‘Muppet Christmas Carol’!
Ain't that the truth.
"You wish to remain anonymous?" "I wish to be left alone"
This story was hillarious told by Dr. G's original one of a kind style, thank you. Norma is a saint, it warms my heart to hear people like Norma actually exist in today. I hope & pray the homeless & mentally ill get the help they need & more people are inspired by Norma.
Seems this world turns more backward every day. Bad behavior and selfishness is rewarded while being an honest person is punished. It makes me so sad. Norma sets a great example for us all. She is certainly building herself a crown in heaven. I hope she has support. The mere fact that she’s able to be so active and productive at her age is amazing. She should be rewarded not persecuted.
Set up a go fund me for her and she can use the money to help others in a different area
Perhaps on a private owners land
A kinder gentler society the U.S. is not. Great critique Doc. Thanks as usual.
“If you’re good at something, never do it for free.” Is Joker in charge of the city?
"No good deed goes unpunished", is made into law. Surreal.
It's beyond alarming.
This brings to mind a curious episode I was part of, in San Francisco, back in 2004.
(This was long before homeless encampments and open drug use was prevalent)
There is a park that stretches from the front of the Capitol building, to the Asian Art Museum. It’s bordered by the Memorial auditorium and various government offices.
The area had a small park, and while I was homeless in the area (living in a hotel, week to week) with my 2 year old daughter, I frequented the park.
A gentleman had begun arriving at the mall area, holding forth with hour long sessions in which he espoused heck-if-I-know whatever he was saying. He would draw a large crowd of homeless folk from all around the Tenderloin area. After his odd sermon on the grass, he’d give out $50 and $100 bills, to individuals as they got up from the lawn and approached him. This would begin in a somewhat orderly fashion, but would in short order, degenerate into a mad mass of desperate hands and feet charging toward the man. He had several homeless men as his kind of personal protection detail, and a pickup truck to make quick escapes.
All this was great. But the next time he made an appearance (mind you, this was likely only his fourth), there was a mob. His safety was in danger, big time. I don’t doubt that people would have descended upon him and literally ripped the clothes from his body in search of his bankroll.
Kindness laid out for the needy, can attract predators.
As long as this lady was only giving out food, I don’t see how anything like a mad dash for cash happening. Same altruistic desire, but a very different item. You can’t buy drugs or alcohol with a healthy, hot meal.
She should have been left alone. You outlaw human kindness, what are we left with? A cold, heartless world regulated by laws only.
Arresting someone for feeding the homeless is like the most American thing ever. Lifting your truck? Nah. Shooting a gun? Nah. Arresting grandma for trying to make homeless people’s existence tolerable? American AF.
I heard about this story on a legal RUclips channel...it's absolutely disgusting what these clowns in Bullhead did to her
Every single stupid self professed Christian on that city council is headed straight to the 9th Circle of Hell for this level of insanity, by their own beliefs.
Norma shows what it is to be a wonderful human being. GENEROSITY, COMPASSION and EMPATHY for others. Kind hearted souls .
I’m very proud of you lady.
This is the most quintessentially American story I’ve found on RUclips in a long time.
Dr. Grande makes me laugh more than almost any other RUclipsr. His subtle jabs and sarcasm tickle me every time.
Like sawed off hot dog 🌭 🤣🤣
It's the dry humor. Very well delivered
Yeah.. he is funny. :)
Obviously they arrested her because the city is doing soooooo much better charity work than she did right? Right ?
Norma truly deserves a seat on the City Council as she knows how to get things done to help the community!
She also strikes me as such an amazing woman overall. She has lived a crazy life. She understands suffering and treats others with kindness.
Wow, humanity ! The dedication to move back 100's of years everyday is breathtaking.
Disgraceful. Woman being punished for good heart, it's absolutely heart-breaking but I hope it won't stop her
So this kind lady is doing what the city and government should be doing...and she's the one threatened and going to jail!!!! What a fkn unbelievable pos city council!🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
That's what worries me. She has a tender heart. I hope she doesn't get too nervous and scared. Almost 80, being a good Samaritan lands her in jail. Jesus said the righteous shall be persecuted.
@@steelhurricane4041 you aint lying. its already happening. so backwards this world wtf.
these are the policies of the Right......
The problem is clearly with the wicked corrupt city council.
@@cht2162 You got it. That's what l've been trying to say all along. Forget the City Council - they're just reacting to citizens complaining about having 'the homeless' encroach on their area, and that's why Norma got targeted - she was the one bringing them in. People are intolerant and inhumane. City Council's act upon what people are having opinions about.
This woman is a literal saint. We live in a clown world.
Yes, Norma was guilty of enabling the unhoused and poor population. Guilty of enabling them to eat a decent meal, every day. You know something is seriously wrong with your town, when they're enacting new ordinances, to stop someone from helping others with a basic need. Food. This woman is trying to pay back the kindness she received when she was down on her luck. Still SMH over this one, Dr.Grande. I guess the old adage, no good deed goes unpunished, fits Norma to a T. She deserves a medal for her good deeds, not an arrest. Thanks for spreading the word about this injustice, Dr.G. More people with a huge audience should do the same. 👏
“Possession of a sawed off hotdog” I’m dead 😂😂😂💀
That law sounds like the city was just going on a power trip which shows that some people should NOT be allowed to have control over anything.
"Manufacturing and distributing pork and beans" made me spit take my morning coffee. And that is why I keep coming back. Thanks Dr. Grande. My clothes might be stained with coffee, but my day has officially started off right. ❤
Right on Dr. Grande. Our society has become so cruel and disengaged with the problem of homelessness. Grandma was spending her time and money to help others where she saw a need and took action. We as a society have become so selfish and greedy that we have forgotten how to show compassion and help give a hand 🤚 up or out for those less fortunate 😢.
But for the grace of God it could be any one of us. We have forgotten how to put ourselves in another’s shoes 😢😢.
I tried to raise my children to treat others as they themselves would like to be treated. But that reasoning seems to have been erased in our society. A smile alone can make someone’s day. It is free to give. An acknowledgment towards another that they exist can help anyone 😊. 🙏🙏
I would sell the food for one cent. 😂😂😂
I had the same thought as Dr. Grande: could she have just printed up a bunch of invitations to various parties-- a different one for each day-- and then passed them to homeless people as they approached her serving station? It would have been interesting/desperately sad to see how the city council would have changed the wording of the ordinance to try and stop that.
I was thinking that too. Planning daily parties sounds like a fun challenge to me but I know it wouldn't be for everyone. My imagination took off a bit too far with the party planning though. I love the idea of doing something monthly to give them something to look forward to and remind them they matter. Definitely something I will keep in mind for the future. Wish I had the time or the money now lol but someday!
This video was incredibly frustrating to get through and I hope Norma wins her case. That sounds like something they'd have gotten away with a long time ago but it's unacceptable now. I couldn't have agreed with Dr. Grande's opinion more with this one. 💯
The city council needs to realize that the unhoused people are also part of the community whether they like it or not. And they need to also represent them when creating laws.
Unfortunately English is not my mother tongue and I am in Southern Europe, not in the USA, but this was really a very good video.
Thanks to Dr. Grande for sharing his knowledge and thoughts on the subject.
Norma seems to be a wonderful human being. May she be blessed with a long life and strength to help others. 💖🙏🙋🏻♀️🇪🇦🇪🇦💞💞💞
The 🌎 needs more Norma! Think of the positive publicity & a shining example this city could have been if, say, the council, police, etc stepped in to help her, instead of stepping in it.
TY for this analysis Dr Grande! 😊 ☮️
Apparently, the established institutions weren't effectively resolving the homeless needs, and rejected this grassroots approach. Norma should sue for wrongful arrest. It doesn't make logical sense for "authorities" to squash kind and compassionate hearts.
I think it’s the maybe she can kill them
@@donnawoodford6641 they’re like… we can’t make are work so we will not allow others to show are futility
Thanks Dr. Grande, was waiting for this one. Today, what's right is wrong and what's wrong is right. God bless that granny! 🙏🏼
So true!!!!
No good deed ever goes unpunished . i hope she wins the lawsuit& continues to help the homeless or is able to. she's an angel🙏
"Possesion of a sawn-off hotdog in commission of an act of charity" !! Brilliant! Dr Grande is one of the best comedians on RUclips!
The worst part of all this is that I can understand the perspective of those who agree with the arrest, and see feeding the homeless as harmful to society. My soul is broken.
I really don't understand what they expect the homeless to do when they pass laws against them being in public-access areas. They can't be at a park, they can't go live off the grid in some woods, they can't get help by being fed, shelters are often not big enough to house all who need it... it's like they just want them to be terminated.
@@OccultDemonCassette I can say first-hand, that is correct.
They don't want you to help yourself or solve your own challenges.
You're a # on a balance sheet somewhere and they think they can own you.
If you act on your own behalf you're someone they need to kill off somehow.
It's crazy.
This is too sad😢. How can they discourage people from helping others? It’s really terrible.
Let's picture a slightly different scenario: An elderly woman keeps reporting homeless encampments (as mentioned in the video, there are actual 'encampments') And the city does nothing (as they are obviously doing if encampments exist...) So the woman spitefully starts serving food to these people......And builds their trust over the period of a month. Then one day, the woman starts cooking food with drugs/poison in it and feeds the homeless and she kills 25 of them. Next thing you know, the city looks responsible for allowing it to happen.
Birthday party loophole! I had that same exact idea! 🤣 Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande! ❤️
I've noticed that when some people with not many neurons working are given a position of power, they will use it at will, not caring how ridiculous and mean their decisions are. I hope this wonderful woman wins in the end.
EXACTLY.
A similar case of a 90 year old man in Fort Lauderdale, who fed hundreds of homeless. I'm very familiar with this scenario, and it's complex. With that said, I do think Dr. Grande's "Birthday Party" loophole should be exploited. You could post flyers, "Birthday Party at the Park on Saturday! All are invited," or, "Free Beer Saturday in the Park!" only to find out Free Beer is the name of the band.
Translation= The city doesn’t want homeless to *devalue* the parks on a daily basis with their presence.
I wonder how much the homeless in this city could have been helped with the monetary value of the resources that were wasted in creating, enacting, training and enforcing this ridiculous and discriminatory ordinance.
Norma is my hero. I've just signed up with my local food pantry to delivery Thanksgiving meals to shut-ins, elderly, low-income and veterans. I will be thinking of Norma and what she does for people.
Sadly it’s like that in lots of cities and states. She is truly blessed. Buddhist nature 😇😌
The countries morals and ethics are just really horrible. I fear for the young children growing up in this environment never knowing what normal and humane behavior is.
It is true I am in a small county and they do not want any one to see our club house for the developmentally disabled even though they need to be in the bus route and close to town.
Just despicable behavior hiding volunerable people from the regular public, which just furthers discrimination and exploitation. They get an big fat E in my book.
Country's
Maga was terrible for this country, ppl stopped caring for others and got selfish
Yes, it doesn't help to hide disabled people away. It just causes more fear.
Bugsea: With all due respect, the 'developmentally disabled' are not 'the homeless'. One group has everybody's support, and the other group, unfortunately, has not. There will always be a stigma attached to the word 'homeless', prompting comments like 'Get a job, freeloader', or ' haha, one of the great unwashed'..etc etc. It's just the way people think in today's society.
This woman is a god sent! These authorities should be ashamed of themselves
Nothing worse than making a mockery of decent human beings, IMO
Many thanks Dr. Grande, you continue to amaze me with your insight, intelligence & articulation of any given situation.
you are “the good doctor“. I appreciate you so much & you’ve helped me in so
many ways. 🌟🙏💙
Hope the councilors never fall on hard times they might just be grateful for the likes of Norma God bless her in this crazy world we live in.
To enjoy the food in this world, to fill your belly, I too , love to see people enjoy food. This woman, at one time, owned her own diner, arrested at 78, no, educate her on all the rediculous regulations, yes. This world needs more humility, empathy, and love. I think for the love, that this woman portrays, into the world, the city should provide a place for her, to feed their homeless❤
Being sentenced to community service? Surely they must realise the stupidity of this. Those in charge should be ashamed of their treatment of compassion and charity.
No good deed goes unpunished in America today.
I think there are many working in public service who don't have the capacity to feel embarrassed. If anything, they double down.
Thank you, Dr Grande.
Yep. This removes all doubt that we are currently living in an idiocracy, (if any doubt existed).
That was a very nice conclusion. The city counsel and police should be embarrassed. Thank you Dr. Grande!
Norma is a very generous, honest person with real love for others. We need more Normas. She is an example to follow, I am fed up with controversial laws/ bylaws that restrict our lifes.
¡¡¡Long live Norma!