PING i59 Irons Review
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
- We test the long awaited replacement to Ping's iBlade iron - the new i59's!
0:00 // Intro
4:44 // PW
7:18 // 7 Iron
10:57 // 4 Iron
13:09 // Results & Conclusions
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I just have to say...the way you two do club reviews is perfect. It's data driven, it's conversational, informative, and you don't yell or scream or behave as if you're trying to entertain us. Keep up the great work!
Everytime Ian says ‘Leaking some oil’ it cracks me up I just get such a weird funny mental image of clubs leaking and over heating haha
I was a competitive player on the mini tours about 12 years ago an played the Miura baby blades then 101 mb's currently I play some black 501mc's .. I just tested these same i59's with LS shafts against my ti s400 miuras last week.. with my launch monitor at an outdoor range .. distance numbers were about identical.. both 7i's were 171-173yrds ..feel was really nice .. what did it for me was two things.. my miss is generally off the toe ..my Miura moves the ball left on toe shots.. i59 still hit straight I guess because of the toe weights #2 higher an straighter flight with the i59 ..could be the shafts ..I had quite the fun hitting the 59's.. I take delivery in 4 weeks ..already have the white tour stand hoofer bag an towel lying in wait lol
Interesting! I'm playing the MC 501's right now and debating moving to the i59 for more forgiveness. Seems like the transition was pretty easy for you
There aren't many channels where I like the video before watching it. But this is one of them
I am so impressed in what Matty has become. Spending this much time with Ian has really granted him some quality knowledge on reading these launch conditions!
It seems the Industry is heading towards player’s irons with a bit of tech hidden inside. I would like to see a video comparing these with the T100 and the Apex Pro!
I think the key is going to be keeping 100% pured strikes the same distance as a pretty good strike. It seems like all of these tech-packed players irons have the occasional flyer that sends it 10-15 yards farther than stock distance.
It will also be hard to match the feel of a truly forged club, but the i210 is one of the few exceptions for that so maybe it’s possible.
I’ve played AP2 712s since 2011 and titleist 910 woods since 2010 and just replaced all of my clubs with ZX7s and Tsi woods! I’m not sure clubs can get much better than they are now 🙃 Just glad I get to enjoy it!
It's marketing. Unless someone puts their clubs to the test on an Iron Byron and clearly shows an advantage on off centred hits, it's all nonsense. Even in human testing I see no gains in accuracy with any style or design of club. In fact, usually the more blade like clubs appear more consistent in the dozens of tests I've seen.
@@johnnypenso9574 idk about that. I switched from my Titleist 755 Forged which are a small, thin players cavity back iron to my current Sub70 699 Pro which are hollow body distance irons. Possibly at the high end of Players Distance category. My mishits went from being 15 yards short of the green to more of a front edge type of miss at worse. I’ve hit balls out of the smooth part of the toe that didn’t get punished as much as a slight mis hit with those clubs. The 755 Forged were a forgiving club for their time too. I think the only thing that makes blades consistent is the typical player that plays them being more of an elite player.
@@johnnypenso9574 just my opinion though obviously
I think accuracy has to come first. If your a half decent ball striker even with a higher handicap more loft and spin is important.
Missing our weekly chats boys. Hope all is well.
Interesting to see how these go against the t100.
I hit these today against the new t100 and Mizuno jpx tour/forged and mmc. the i59s were clearly the best iron for myself. I actually enjoyed the feel of these the most as well.
So excited for this review! Been literally drooling over this category
Literally?
@@MetalAsFork LITERALLY 🤤
I think Ian hit the nail on the head, Ping really does stray away from the pack in each distinct category, to great success in some and maybe some head scratching in others.
I have the i200's and looking to upgrade and have been placing a keen eye to several RUclips video's. Your video confirms what Ping's website is saying. Bottom line is "consistency" on distance and spin. Have to say your assessment hit the nail on the head "this is a club of function"! Tighter dispersion, consistent spin and distance with that finish, I begin to see Ping is attempting to eliminate that "flyer" word from a golfers lexicon. That's pretty significant. I may have to bite the bullet, pay the price and add to my golf bag. Thank you.
Been waiting for this!
Ping is the greatest iron maker. They got the fitting aspect down decades before other companies which is typically more crucial than the iron themselves. When you get to the make of the iron it’s difficult to find something that feels or performs better.
Exactly!!!!
Great stuff, gentlemen
Really iked the review... I picked up a set of the I59 irons in blue dot. I play 100% Ping and decided to step into the new millennium with these irons. I was currently gaming my "Newest set" I3+. Everyone said to me when I decided to upgrade to the I59's that they were a players iron. Truth be told, aside from the offset, they are almost the exact same head size as the I3+. I will say they are incredible irons to play. I don't know about forgiveness, but they are very accurate in regards to flight, distance and pinpoint accuracy. I am extremely pleased with my selection. I also demoed the Pro forged wedges and have ordered a set in 50/54/58 to go with the I59's.
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I currently have every club in my bag as a ping club due to my loyalty to the brand and the rep here in town. I have been waiting for these clubs to come out for a while as I am gaming the iblades now. The price threw me off and I am also currently thinking about looking at the t100s and Srixon cause of this. Look forward to my fitting and to purchase of new irons soon. Thanks for the video guys and as always you do an amazing job.
I've been a Ping guy since day one. Once I hit these the difference was obvious! I chose power spec and have never regretted it! Worth the wait for me! Stable single digit HCP!
Warming up to my new T100S/T100 combo set. At first they felt really firm compared to my original T100S and they're a bit more demanding but I get great height and spin out of them.
Thank you for your honest review
❤️ you Matty. And Ian is a golf genius. Awesome channel. Great review.
Thank you Richard!! 🙏🏻
Great vlog! Good to see a modern club without a jumpy face! May be add some short game shots around the green with 7,8,9i chip and run! Plus some shot shaping! I’ve found the power bats are not great with these short of shots! 👍
Been waiting for this review. Was going to wait for these but glad I didn't. Ordered the t100s a few weeks ago and then this launched....then I saw the price. They look great but the cost is so high I wouldn't have even considered them.
Yes, Miura money for a Ping…
If price is an issue, check out the review these guys did of the Honma TW-X irons. Hollow blades as well that were originally very expensive but now around mid $600’s.
Been gaming a set for a year and I love them so much!
Great review guys. These irons are not for me as I’m a 13 handicap who plays I210’s but it seems like this is another nice option from Ping. I love the look of Ping irons and these are no different. They have an almost elegant quality to their appearance.
Love you guys but A true measurement of an iron is using 15 and 8 handicap golfer and measure the forgettability on miss hit , turf interaction against the tester gamer clubs as baseline.. a true test of club performance.. it’s not the perfect hit but actually how the club perform on miss hit would prove it’s value.
Thank you guys! Keep pumping out videos like this!
I’ve been able to hit these pretty extensively and I’m super impressed! I ordered them when I realized how much tighter my dispersion was. And my distance actually increased.
I just picked the full set up lightly used for under 800. Can’t wait.
I'd have had you down as an 'aluminium', rather than an 'aluminum' man, Ian. Life away from Scottish shores in North America is taking its toll! Superb stuff, as always.
Hahaha I was thinking the same.
@@ShawnyBGolf 😄👍🏻
Haha +1
Haha +1
Just hit these the other day and definitely found the same results retained spin very well even on mishits to prevent fliers or the long left..
Would love to see a 2021 t-100s video to compare shorter and longer irons
Buying new irons soon looking at t-100/t-100s, i-59’s, and cobra king tour mim irons
Check out the prices on the PXG irons. The Gen 3 T and P irons offer OUTSTANDING value and phenomenal performance. And they feel buttery. Unbeatable.
My new Cobra Radspeed irons I just bought for $109 per club with graphite shaft. I love the performance of them. They are one length.
At $1750 for a full set (7 irons) Karsten has decided that their future customers are decidedly upscale. Ironically enough their ritzy Scottsdale neighbors at PXG are pushing prices down. (to be sure, PXG still has some very high-$ choices as well) The market will decide this of course but as much as I love Ping equipment I can't feel good about this choice with so many worthy competitors costing significantly less.
I watched this video AFTER watching your review of the Tacoma 201 irons. I can’t imagine paying 3x more for the Pings when they performed the same for you. I say that after buying a set of G425’s early in the year. I might sell them and buy the Tacoma’s!
The more I hear Ian describe the 'ethos' behind Ping, the more I like their brand.
Lol, I'm no where near a 4 handicap, but I hit these more consistently than anything I hit: P790s, 770s, Mizuno 225, Apex Pro, Rogue ST Pro, i525s, etc. I originally bought the i525s, but thought back to the sound and feel, and I didn't love them. During the same fitting I was accidentally swinging i59s for about 15 minutes that someone else was testing. We didn't realize it and thought they were the i525s. I hit them the best of anything. I called and asked if I could come back and swing them again. Even on miss hits, I hit these with a tighter dispersion than anything.
Long story short, they go in the bag next week.
Seems like this and the blueprint in the short irons would be a nice combo set
Just waiting for the new mizuno mp 👏
The irons coming out this year make me want to replace my 2019 P790s
Great review. When are the live’s coming back or am I missing them somewhere?
I was wondering if I was missing them?
Couldd you please do a series on which improvement irons have the most "shape-ability"? Thanks.
Ping has made a modern tour club - i.e. a consistent spinning and carrying club for people that play for a living and have to hit certain numbers with high consistency. I think you'll see a few of their tour guys use potentially use these in 4&3 irons. The P770 / T200 / Apex Pro / 921 Forged are cheaper and better for the 5-15 handicap crowd.
5-15 handicappers should probably be looking at the 210’s which are still a great iron 3 years after their release and the price is right at about $110 per iron.
@@pato7694 yes - or the 210 - there are lots of others. Not personally a fan of Ping sounds and shapes but there are tour pros that play the 210s
Have you found a better placement for the club markers on irons than what Foresight recommends? Especially the center ones
4400 spin on the 4i makes me salivate. Hate the sound and probably wouldn't like the feel but that's just personal preference, they look to be a real contender!
I'm fascinated to understand from PING why they have chosen to fill the cavity with the aluminium insert rather than squirting foam. Given the complexities of welding three dissimilar metals, they must see some major advantages and it would be great to hear from them why they have gone their separate way.
Currently gaming the s55 would love to see how these two stack up. Feel like the i59 is the first edition to what most definitely better to follow in the series. Much like the S series?
Love everything about the irons, unfortunately priced me out with that one
already ordered :)
Would be cool to go back to some older clubs, 5, 10 years olds and do some head to head to compare to the new stuff that cost an arm and a leg. Golf is seen as an expensive sport but would be cool to quantify the difference in performance with going to some older clubs to save some coin. My Nike vapor combos might be in the similar category as these new tech players distance irons.
They did this comparing AP2 versus the t100.
Iron technology has really improved leaps and bounds in the last 5 years. I truly think you would be hard pressed to find something from 5 years ago that has the players profile with decent forgiveness. In a few years the 2nd hand market for irons is gonna be soooo good.
I’ve tested them but the shop only had the PX LS shaft and I do not care for it. Would love to hit them again with the X100’s.
I hoped you guys doing head to Head iron test on this
i59 vs Gen 4 vs P790 vs MP20
These remind me a lot of the JPX 921 Tours
Boys would love to see a head to head to head (i59-P770-T100). I am interested in a more consistent iron. I currently play the i500 and love that they are rocket ships but would like more consistency to score better. I have lowered my handicap to less than 4 and my ball striking is much better than my putting. Going for a big fitting in October when I hope these will be more available. I am a person that really likes the fact that you will know how and where you strike the ball on the face via feel but will not be overly punished on spin or distance.
After watching this review I went back and watched the New Level PF1 / PF2 review to compare. The PF1 launched considerably lower than the i59. Was this just different swings on different days or would you expect that difference to be consistent from day to day?
I currently play the 3-PW iBlade, DG S300, standard loft...
I was wondering if you can do a comparison between the iBlade and i59 in 3i, 7i, PW in standard lofts, and same shaft?
I have been looking at these to upgrade for years...
I am trying to convince myself to stick with the iBlades because the trajectory, spin, and distance consistency is spectacular!
I would absolutely love to watch a review of you guy's going indepth with the old iBlades!
I love the channel, professionalism, humor, and content!
Pretty 🙏!? Hahaha
Looks like a contender to replace my Titleist 716cb's
Need to see comparison to other similar irons in the category... T100, JPX Tour, ZX7 and so on. Hard to tell from best ball averages if it's actually significantly better.
Out of those you listed I doubt any would be “significantly” better than another. Each has their own minor difference that the player would prefer whether sole design, head shape, etc. All great options
Ian, could you give your opinion on how the wedge feels off the face in comparison to a forged club and the iblade if you were playing controlled chips around the green.
Just asking as I’ve got the iblades and they’re a wee bit fiery off the face for chipping IMO
The price will be the deciding factor, I wouldn't pay that much.
agreed, too many other vendors making great clubs versus the big 3 or 4 for ALOT cheaper
Interesting to see Victor Hovland revert back to i210 last week. He has been using i59 and iBlades.
Most of their tour players use i210
@@davidgroom9667 I know. What is your point? My point is, a player has been using i59 and has decided they don’t work for him. Point being maybe they are not helpful clubs, even for talented golfers. If you read online, Ping were surprised by Victor’s decision.
@@idontwantahandle12345
Having a bad day?
@@davidgroom9667Not at all. Just want to know what point you were trying to make. No more please.
Not sure what your experience is with the LS shaft. But I would be willing to bet that shaft is contributing more to the lower launch and slower ball speed than the head.
S55 vs i59 would be cool to see.
I feel like a kid at Christmas everyone TXG drops a video
Hmm I got fit for the i210 which these apparently are as forgiving in a more sleek package. The wide sole of the i210 is my issue on links turf so wondering if these would be a better fit, is the sole less wide?
T100 v these from a performance standpoint would be very interesting like others are requesting.
I'm hearing they're offering these in 2 loft configurations. Old School traditional lofts and more modern day souped up lofts.
It's actually 3 different configurations. Power spec, standard, and retro.
Go to 5.55 minutes into the video and pause it.
What is your opinion of doing a split set between the blue prints and I59’s? Would you recommend the iblades instead in terms of price point?
I'd like to see a blueprint vs i59 on course (or sim) showdown
I'm "stepping down" from the Blueprint to the i59. I dont play enough for the Blueprint anymore. Off days are very off. The i59, at least during my testing and fitting, gave me quite a bit more wiggle room for off center hits. They just don't hurt as much with the i59. Granted, a bad hit is a bad hit, but its not as much.
I just bought a set of i59 irons 4-W I am 3-6 handicap but have been playing with G-series iron. I feel I strike the ball well, do you think I am going to get punished. ? I love the way they look and hope they will improve my game in other areas.
Rick Shiels said something similar when hitting the long irons compared to the short ones. . . . maybe there's something more to it? Struggling with the wedge and flushing the 4i.
Yah but Rick is a terrible golfer now lol!
So nice...
Ian, 5.8 toe down dynamic lie! 😲
Love the channel! Question about the i59s a few months later…
Why do y’all think Tour players have been slow to replace the iBlades with the i59s?
These catch my eye but certainly a lot of red flags about them, especially when other new releases (such as t100) go in players bags almost immediately.
That’s a good question. Would love to hear some gossip from the ping players.
Haven't seen Ian this unexcited in a while
Yeah Ian's silence after strikes speaks volumes..
Can't wait for the replacement for i59's so the boys can really speak out loud about the real opinion how they hate this product. Just like they did with T200 (2019 -> 2021) and TM MG2 -> MG3.
It's easy to be disappointed when you go in thinking they're a 'player's distance' iron and comparing them to 770 before you even take a swing, or read about the product, apparently. Love these guys, but that video went wrong inside the first minute.
Can you put these up against MP20-MB…..they are my current gamers and I am itching to know if the tech gives that little bit of help while maintaining consistency, distance control and feel. I actually moved from the HMB as it had a habit of flying 10 yards further as is typical from the players distance / power bats!
This is something I've always wondered - why is handicap so directly associated with distance? I'm a mid to high handicap and my 150 club is a 9i or even a pitching wedge some days. I've always wanted a slightly more forgiving iron with traditional lofts but nothing like that seems to exist. I play blades now because everything else just goes way too far. The real kicker here is now that I'm using the proper shafts I'm getting an extra 10+ yds on each of my irons and keep flying shots over the green. It's not helping my handicap lol
Hard to see how these outperform the i210's for half the price.
What’s Ping‘s idea behind lie increments from long to short by 0.7* & 0.8* - compared to other stock lies they seem to start flat’ish while the short irons turn out rather steep? With regards to shaft droop / swing intensity in mind, I don’t understand the concept 🤷🏻♂️
Maybe you guys can help, love the show!
Really looks like your transition is starting late Ian.. don't know if you've been trying to do that but there seems to be a little stall when you get to the top of the backswing which looks like its making you start down quite steep and have to lay it down and rotate late.. I think if you started your downswing at left arm parallel while still completing your backswing your golf swing would flow better and really work better... Anyways just mho hope you boys are doing good
Wonder why no one has brought up the fact that they purchased nikes iron patents hence the design, and extra grooves on the face…
Price topic:
It’s not where the industry have to go.
It’s us who let them go this route.
We don’t have to buy and shouldn’t, because if the companies can not sell their products they will sooner or later lower the price. At some point they have to, if they don’t want to be a brand only for the upper class.
So it’s up to us what the companies can charge us.
Yep. Ping makes great stuff and usually fit in the mid range. Less than TM and Titleist but more than wilson, cobra, srixon, etc. They could have launched these in the $1300 range with every other forged iron and done well but at $1700+, I don't know who's buying these.
I have a feeling this has something to do with the price of making irons right now with all the materials shortages.
But yeah 250 for an iron? Insane unless it’s miura. Nobody in their right mind would pay 1800 for these irons unless they have plenty of dough to shell out
Thank Bob Parsons, he proved to the rest of the industry that there are lots of golfers who are willing to be taken advantage of. Post PXG it's almost as if the big OEMs colluded to dramatically push up club prices.
Regardless, I'm sure Ping will have a huge backlog of orders for these.
@@thomaskuhn6541 yeah, unfortunately I think you will be right.
Undoubtedly, the product is great and well build and everyone who will buy it will have a great time with these.
But these prices are as you mentioned pushed to its limits and beyond, but there are enough people who literally don’t care and normal will „suffer“ and have to look at 2nd Hand markets
Hit a few in the net at my pro shop and wasn't impressed with the feel, very clicky. They aren't aimed at my level I know but my i210's are definitely staying in the bag, especially when they are $435 per iron here in Aus, I find that bordering on obscene, that is a huge mark up on the US dollar conversion and I can't see how it could possibly be justified.
Hit these on Sunday. Liked the 7 Iron, but its not worth $275 per iron at all. They were pretty small, and not very forgiving imo. I think I would take a P770 over them all day long.
Question: 9 handicap, play iE1. just got fit with ping. G425 looked enormous, couldn’t hit them. G725 same thing. I525 wasn’t great with. I59, couldnt miss the sweet spot. Was dropping them on the flag. 167 7 iron carry. (Wish it was a touch longer). Do you think I’m going to struggle to hit the 4 iron / 5 iron? Is my story relatable?
Hey Fellas - question for you... do you know if the i59 "power specs" are just the standard clubs with loft bent out, or are they their own model like the T100S?
They are the standard heads moved stronger.
I wonder how these compare to the S55
I presently game the iBlade's and have for years. After seeing comparisons videos between the two I just don't see the value in upgrading to the the i59's with little or no better performance and not to mention the price. Love the look of these irons tho.
Felt like Ian was at the dentist a bit with every swing :). Excitement was low in the video compared to other new iron reviews from Taylormade and Titleist. Its been interesting to follow the response to the i59s from content creators, fitters, and public forums.
Would like to see the i59 vs iblade vs i210
Performance wise, that is really impressive. Distance control seems to be a forgotten element these days.
Giveaway results? My bags are packed 😄
Which ACCRA shaft is most similar to a Diamana Blue Board ?
how's the look compared to apex pro 21?
I know im super late to the party but please help me!! I currently own a set of Mizuno JPX921 forged and I was curious if my Mizunos or more like the I59 or the I525?! Love your videos!
I play Iblade 4-pw and have for a few years (0.6index). About 2 months ago with the advise from some Ping support put an order in for a new set of iblades with identical specs to save as backups (modus 130X).
While these are the sexiest irons I have ever seen, they aren’t quite as soft feeling and launch a bit lower than iblade does. I consistently launched a couple degrees higher with 600 additional RPMs per club (same loft and shaft). Food for thought when you’re talking about $1100 vs $1900, and definitely an interesting comparison if possible.
$250 a club plus tax is too steep…should be closer to the $175-180.
I’m not a fan. They sound really loud. I was hoping these were for me because I could have played iblade. These are smaller looking for me.
I’m not a fan of Ping. I respect them, just not for my bag. I’m getting a new set of clubs next year. I’m looking to get out of the market for a few years because I’m hoping the OEMs getting put in check, for constantly raising prices when quality isn’t always better.
I’m looking for a good tweener iron. Something that isn’t as small as t100
But sits closer to the size of a srixon. Currently game srixon irons. Staying the similar size in a different forged iron is very appealing to me
Are the left handed version called 65! ?
More or less forgiving than a MP20?
That new PX Ls shaft makes them feel horrible. I tried with other shafts (X100, KBS Tour etc.) and felt SOOOOOOO MUCH better. It is for me very odd shaft to put as stock shaft option.
🤙🏾😎
can you guys do a comparison video against blueprint? these don’t seem to have achieved much of anything over blueprint.
They do feel like shit compared to Blueprints though..
These are 1000x easier to hit than the Blueprint. I can tell you that much.
I think the Ping sales prevention officer had a big part in the pricing of these.
I just picked up some i210s for less than half what I'd pay for these. Lofts are 1 degree stronger than the 210s. Didn't see anything here that would take the 210s out of my hands.
Offset my guy,
@@fatehdhillon No idea what you're trying to say. Try full thoughts and sentences.
T100S superior overall boys?