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Just saw a truckload of these in SW Michigan this morning heading east towards Detroit. Multiple colors and manufacturer plates. They looks cool in person.
@@scorpy2643 u can carry tanks of gas or would u rather carry solar panel or gas generator trying to charge this thing for a week? any off road vehicle is better suited as pure combustion or hybrid.
For those in CA or Washington, a $50,000 (mostly) American-made EV will be $38,500 after Federal & State discounts either at signing or rebate(s). This will also be the price at which a 3 year lease will be based on. Some EVs are up to 35% off to buy, lease, or finance. My $40,000 Kia Niro EV was $28,000 after $12,000 off from federal & state rebates, applied at dealership.
No federal tax credit on the mach-e this year 😕. Too expensive for any of the existing WA credits. The low income credit might apply in August but you'll have probably have to get someone that qualifies to buy it for you (or if you qualify you probably shouldn't be buying this unless you're basically retired with substantial savings and not claiming much income).
I've owned four different mustangs not including the Mach E GT that I currently own. I completely agree with you. The Mach E is a great car and I think it's good enough to stand on its without needing to lean on the mustang name.
8:10 Be careful about using the phrase "Rally World Championship car". That suggests that the Mach-E has actually competed in a World Rally Championship event of some sort. My understanding is that this is inspired by World Championship Rally cars and may have the suspension tuning that it could actually be driven like a WRC rally car. Remember, there are some people who take this kind of thing seriously.
Anyone else really miss the Focus RS? imagine if they had put a mild (performance oriented) hybrid in a Focus RS added the OZ wheels and some auxiliary lights up front - they likely could have charged the same as this EV.... I guess we're watching the future unfold here - eventually you won't hear the rally cars until one t-bones a tree when if flies off course....
Seems like it might be pretty fun. Curious what the Rivian R3X will be like - assuming it actually happens. Something like this would be great for driving in any mountain state.
Thank you - just when I thought most of the TFL content was out of the awkward "cringe" phase they go and do stuff like that... I have no doubt that most of the TFL folks know what they're talking about but every once in a while they show they're out of their depth. Still worth watching but c'mon guys at least flash up on the screen with "* we know it's pronounced oh - zee *"
Inappropriate comment: Roman, crank up your potassium level.. Use “no salt” salt substitute. Once you’ve done that, crank up your magnesium levels with a good supplement. Then get off processed carbs including booze. Your back will thank you.
Major problem with the mustang's trunk. There is NO drain. Any rain water that get in there stays. The trunk is slopped so any water run forward on to the car floor.
While I agree Ford should have just went with Mach-e without Mustang…it’s been four years. Does every YT comment have to point out this is not a Mustang??Get over it. It’s not a Mustang, everyone knows it. Move on.
Nope - keep it up I say.... I won't call it a Mustang and I think it's a very good car too. If I were to buy one one of the first changes would be to remove the pony logo(s). I think you could do quite well by making replacement badges. I know there's some legitimate issues with this car too - the reviewers with some exception don't see the issues because they're not living with this car longer term. Still though it's a very good first attempt by Ford - IMO it should be selling better and more successful than it is - perhaps it's the name ;-) All that said - I'm really considering replacing my wife's car with one of these in the green color and bronze package in a couple of years - hopefully the color is still available and replacement pony badges are too...
@ffl2609 Not to mention, Taurus definitely has name recognition. It could have been offered in both sedan and wagon/hatchback, and no one would have raised a fuss.
With this battery pack you'll get maybe 70 miles flooring it offloading... they should option a piggyback battery, just like on E mountain bikes, so you can drive back to the closest charging station. Otherwise it's awesome.
No hate from me. There’s a butt for every seat and if that’s the crank that cranks someone’s tractor, good on them. Quite an interesting vehicle. Hat’s off to FORD for pushing the market’s limits.
pushing the market..... right off of a cliff - they've pushed the market into not selling cars anymore (trucks and SUVs/Crossovers except for the Mustang). I've been a "Ford guy" for more than 30 years but I don't own one today. I will give them this: The Mach E (I won't call it a Mustang) GT in that green with the bronze appearance package is something I would strongly consider to replace my wife's car when we're due for a new ride. I guess I'm just old man yelling at clouds....
This is far from the first electric rally car. Go watch Nitro Rallycross. They've been using one for a while now. That being said, I think this Mach E is pretty cool.
Roman I like the enthusiasm you show for Rally Racing. But you seem to lack knowledge of it. First Ford still runs a team for WRC (M-Sport Ford World Rally Team). You will find several Fiesta WRC cars running in the ARA (American Rally Association). I suggest you go to the Rally Colorado July 20-21 in Rangely Colorado. There you can see what true rally cars look like because this Mustang/Mach-E is certainly not one. The 40/60 (Front/Rear) came out of the Group B Rally Car Era (1982-1986). The only factory performance car with the ability to bias 40/60 that I am aware is the Subaru STI. If anybody knows of others, please let me know. I always like to expand my knowledge base.
If ford would have just called this vehicle an “E”scort. Make the E a different color. These would be better received, but by putting mustang on a non sporting car it was DOA.
@Chett_Manly Some sarcasm I guess. I witnessed the introduction of Honda, Hyundai, Kia and others into the US market and they built a foundation and survived by focusing on the mass market first. Then, once established, they extended into the luxury and sport markets. The entire EV approach has been the opposite. Battery prices will only come down through volume sales and production.
Love your videos but I hate this thumbnail with the heated passion of the sun!!! As a Mach E owner I came to see the bad ass rally trim doing bad ass rally stuff and all I got was a walk around…
Electrification is happening and no amount of kicking and screaming is going to change that. Might as well make EVs interesting even if that electric roadster is a yuppie mobile.
@@Biochemechanicprobably not, but it wouldn’t shock me if Ford released limited editions for upscale buyers only. Seems to be what automakers are after anyway. New vehicles for premium buyers only.
@atg1338 First of all, there is no need for name calling. And no, I am not just caught up with a name. It's my OPINION that this vehicle is not associated with a Mustang, especially now that it has an offroad model . And for your information, I have a 2023 Ford Mach-E GT with the performance package.
Nothing screams Rally like a 480hp 5000lbs electric SUV? Rally cars need to be nimble. Doesnt a Lightning Raptor make more sense? This thing is more like a Mach E Wilderness Edition. Also...Yeah Dirtfish!
This is far from the first electric rally car. Go watch Nitro Rallycross. They've been using one for a while now. That being said, I think this Mach E is pretty cool.
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This is actually really cool of Ford to do something like this with their EV's, it's fun and refreshing in a sea of boring vehicles..
That boy racer wing is ridiculous.... ridiculously cool; the better half would be ticked if I got her one 😀 Looks like a lot of fun!
Do I want a Mach E Rally or a Rivian R3X? I need a bigger garage and a lottery ticket. ;)
Just saw a truckload of these in SW Michigan this morning heading east towards Detroit. Multiple colors and manufacturer plates. They looks cool in person.
this would be much cooler with an ecoboost engine 300/400 hp one.
@@billybobbob3003 Why would you want it to have less horsepower and turbo lag? Weird…. This one has instant torque and 480 hp.
@@scorpy2643 u cant rally with electric cars lol chargers dont exist in nature
@@billybobbob3003So you pull up next to a gasoline shrub, grab a gasoline berry, and drop it in the tank? lol.
@@scorpy2643 u can carry tanks of gas or would u rather carry solar panel or gas generator trying to charge this thing for a week? any off road vehicle is better suited as pure combustion or hybrid.
Geez, Roman really bringing the high-energy and enthusiasm to this video 😂
Ya this channel needs to be called old men, dragging feet … shuffling and mumbling my about cars.
For those in CA or Washington, a $50,000 (mostly) American-made EV will be $38,500 after Federal & State discounts either at signing or rebate(s). This will also be the price at which a 3 year lease will be based on. Some EVs are up to 35% off to buy, lease, or finance. My $40,000 Kia Niro EV was $28,000 after $12,000 off from federal & state rebates, applied at dealership.
No federal tax credit on the mach-e this year 😕. Too expensive for any of the existing WA credits. The low income credit might apply in August but you'll have probably have to get someone that qualifies to buy it for you (or if you qualify you probably shouldn't be buying this unless you're basically retired with substantial savings and not claiming much income).
Can’t wait for mine to arrive. Roll cage , lighting, tires, wheels and other tweaks ready to go! I can’t wait!!
I do agree with those calling for this Ford not to be called Mustang!.Ford if u are listening please drop the Mustang name from this!.
Add one to your fleet, it looks interesting
Not going to lie, totally looks like a real life Hot Wheels car… and I love it!
Seems really silly to me to call this a Mustang. Seems so obvious that it should just be the Mach E.
I've owned four different mustangs not including the Mach E GT that I currently own. I completely agree with you. The Mach E is a great car and I think it's good enough to stand on its without needing to lean on the mustang name.
I’ve never heard that take before.
A Blue Oval on the front, a Mach-E loco on the rear. It no longer needs the Mustang "crutch"
Should have bought back the pinto name.
@@RogueSchoIar i still think they shouldve named it thunderbird. call it a plev.
those wheels are so nice
I dig the metal roof👍👍👍
They tuned the drive train / power delivery too to make it a bit more sporty. Thank you for mentioning RS. In Ford speak you write Rallye 😄
That is what I was looking for...
but I just bought a 06 LJ Rubicon....
dang... I bet that is a lot of fun.
Fix that charging speed to over 250 and you have a winner on your hands.
Ford is still rallying with the Puma. It's raced with Ford's full backing by M-Sport of the UK.
@@jimjones-pz1tt So why bother commenting? There are many channels where your crass manner is welcomed.
@@jimjones-pz1tt Lip Stick on a Pig
Great job Berchin!!!!!
8:10 Be careful about using the phrase "Rally World Championship car". That suggests that the Mach-E has actually competed in a World Rally Championship event of some sort. My understanding is that this is inspired by World Championship Rally cars and may have the suspension tuning that it could actually be driven like a WRC rally car. Remember, there are some people who take this kind of thing seriously.
Nobody:
Roman: offroad on dirt ROADS
Great snow electric car. Finally Ford chasing Subaru. Took some time.
Except that in winter the range may be cut in half from the cold. Great snow car
@@chemjam92 I agree 100%.
I think we’re putting an order in.
Ford is still racing in the World Rally Championship with the Ford Puma.
Mindblowing and gamechanging!
Anyone else really miss the Focus RS? imagine if they had put a mild (performance oriented) hybrid in a Focus RS added the OZ wheels and some auxiliary lights up front - they likely could have charged the same as this EV.... I guess we're watching the future unfold here - eventually you won't hear the rally cars until one t-bones a tree when if flies off course....
Seems like it might be pretty fun. Curious what the Rivian R3X will be like - assuming it actually happens. Something like this would be great for driving in any mountain state.
Did they beef up the underbody protection? Gotta protect that battery off road...
"plenty of knee room"... 🤣🤣🤣
It's Oh-Zee, not Oz
The dash is there for a reason, was looking for this comment 😂😂
Oh-Kay.
Thank you - just when I thought most of the TFL content was out of the awkward "cringe" phase they go and do stuff like that... I have no doubt that most of the TFL folks know what they're talking about but every once in a while they show they're out of their depth. Still worth watching but c'mon guys at least flash up on the screen with "* we know it's pronounced oh - zee *"
Mustang lightning raptor
😂 Gonna piss off the Mustang Fanboi club.
Too heavy.
Would of been cooler is they came back with a cosworth escort
Andrey, Mr Kent and Tommy should be the ones doing reviews. Having said that best wishes FLT.
Please show us some video clips of Ford actually racing this car at a rally.
Very cool! I´d wish Ford would actually compete in rallies with it.
Nice summary. 9:27
Inappropriate comment: Roman, crank up your potassium level.. Use “no salt” salt substitute. Once you’ve done that, crank up your magnesium levels with a good supplement. Then get off processed carbs including booze. Your back will thank you.
Major problem with the mustang's trunk. There is NO drain. Any rain water that get in there stays. The trunk is slopped so any water run forward on to the car floor.
While I agree Ford should have just went with Mach-e without Mustang…it’s been four years. Does every YT comment have to point out this is not a Mustang??Get over it. It’s not a Mustang, everyone knows it. Move on.
Honestly, if after 4 years, that's the worst criticism that people can come up with, that means it's a really good car.
Nope - keep it up I say.... I won't call it a Mustang and I think it's a very good car too. If I were to buy one one of the first changes would be to remove the pony logo(s). I think you could do quite well by making replacement badges. I know there's some legitimate issues with this car too - the reviewers with some exception don't see the issues because they're not living with this car longer term. Still though it's a very good first attempt by Ford - IMO it should be selling better and more successful than it is - perhaps it's the name ;-) All that said - I'm really considering replacing my wife's car with one of these in the green color and bronze package in a couple of years - hopefully the color is still available and replacement pony badges are too...
Personally, I think Ford should have gone with the Taurus nameplate.
@@coreysmith2774 Agree. It looks more like Taurus than a Mustang for sure.
@ffl2609 Not to mention, Taurus definitely has name recognition. It could have been offered in both sedan and wagon/hatchback, and no one would have raised a fuss.
With this battery pack you'll get maybe 70 miles flooring it offloading... they should option a piggyback battery, just like on E mountain bikes, so you can drive back to the closest charging station. Otherwise it's awesome.
No hate from me. There’s a butt for every seat and if that’s the crank that cranks someone’s tractor, good on them. Quite an interesting vehicle. Hat’s off to FORD for pushing the market’s limits.
pushing the market..... right off of a cliff - they've pushed the market into not selling cars anymore (trucks and SUVs/Crossovers except for the Mustang). I've been a "Ford guy" for more than 30 years but I don't own one today. I will give them this: The Mach E (I won't call it a Mustang) GT in that green with the bronze appearance package is something I would strongly consider to replace my wife's car when we're due for a new ride. I guess I'm just old man yelling at clouds....
Tons on legroom huh…..
I'd like to see it ripping through some rally stages
The range isn’t long enough to
Missed the best part. No stupid glass roof.
interesting it's got the wheels that the Mav was spied with last week.
I want a rally version of the AWD E-quinox for half the price !!! 🤑
It looks like the Mach-E has less rear leg room than my old PT Cruiser did.
Price out the middle class
"the first electric rally car anyone built" 😂
dude, the Opel / Vauxhall Corsa E Rally exists for over a year now. 👏🏻😂
Not in America
One inch lift. You can get a fully loaded bmw x3 for less than that and one extra inch of ground clearance.
I soooo want Tesla to get into the rally scene with the Y! Get some competition going!!
That shit is going to last all but 30 minutes like my old RC car toys when I was a kid 😂 fun short time though
So basically you don't really know 💩🤔
Bring back Group B
Does it have a spare tire?
Doubtful due to weight savings
This is far from the first electric rally car. Go watch Nitro Rallycross. They've been using one for a while now. That being said, I think this Mach E is pretty cool.
Roman I like the enthusiasm you show for Rally Racing. But you seem to lack knowledge of it. First Ford still runs a team for WRC (M-Sport Ford World Rally Team). You will find several Fiesta WRC cars running in the ARA (American Rally Association). I suggest you go to the Rally Colorado July 20-21 in Rangely Colorado. There you can see what true rally cars look like because this Mustang/Mach-E is certainly not one. The 40/60 (Front/Rear) came out of the Group B Rally Car Era (1982-1986). The only factory performance car with the ability to bias 40/60 that I am aware is the Subaru STI. If anybody knows of others, please let me know. I always like to expand my knowledge base.
Ford Focus Ralley car?
If ford would have just called this vehicle an “E”scort. Make the E a different color. These would be better received, but by putting mustang on a non sporting car it was DOA.
Who the f cares!! My god it's just name and this things been around for a while... move on 🤡
Ouch, that looks cheap like from Toys r Us
These start at $60K. Designing more expensive models is exactly what Ford needs to do. Don't mind the mass market. Focus on the SVO sector.
To be fair they made the base gt cheaper and better
@Chett_Manly Some sarcasm I guess. I witnessed the introduction of Honda, Hyundai, Kia and others into the US market and they built a foundation and survived by focusing on the mass market first. Then, once established, they extended into the luxury and sport markets. The entire EV approach has been the opposite. Battery prices will only come down through volume sales and production.
😭😭😭😭
Looks good, but the standard gravel wheel for a rally car is 15." A 19" wheel makes no sense on an actual rally stage.
A standard rally car is actually small though. This thing is like a transport truck compared to a little Ford Focus. 15s wouldn’t clear the brakes.
the ppl who buy this wont be doing any actual rally racing
Everyone is doing the "off road" cars now.
yeah a rally car, that'll really let your EVs hit the mainstream, Ford
Check out the Mach-E 1400! a 1400HP 7 motor Mach-E!
I’m not anti EV but that thing is dumb.
😂 No one is buying them. I think a recent report came out that Ford is losing $130k per EV vehicle sold.
It's a RallyCar. Honest. It has white wheels, and it has. . . . . . . . 🤔
Love your videos but I hate this thumbnail with the heated passion of the sun!!!
As a Mach E owner I came to see the bad ass rally trim doing bad ass rally stuff and all I got was a walk around…
Here you go:
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Those wheels only look good on a white car, IMO.
Can-Am has the same wheels on their Ryker Rally. They look okay on that.
or a british racing green one
Good thing it doesn't mean💩
Wonderful…until you damage battery hitting something in the road like a rock or stump.
Roman, you need to go on a diet man.
Rally cars usually have roll bars in the back, that is just a mini SUV with ugly fog lights
Hate much?
It hurts my brain that a porky pig EV CUV is considered a rally car. One small jump and it will be totaled.
Like they haven't tested it... my god get a life 🤡
Mach R sales way down and Ford looses money on each one.
Electrification is happening and no amount of kicking and screaming is going to change that. Might as well make EVs interesting even if that electric roadster is a yuppie mobile.
It’s not happening in any substantive way. It’s a joke.
@@Biochemechanicprobably not, but it wouldn’t shock me if Ford released limited editions for upscale buyers only. Seems to be what automakers are after anyway. New vehicles for premium buyers only.
Garbage, bring back the Focus RS
Ford, please call this the "Ford Mach-E." Including the "Mustang" name, just throw it off.
Just to dopes who get hung up on a name😲🤡
@atg1338
First of all, there is no need for name calling. And no, I am not just caught up with a name. It's my OPINION that this vehicle is not associated with a Mustang, especially now that it has an offroad model . And for your information, I have a 2023 Ford Mach-E GT with the performance package.
@@sirnate54 good for you 👍
FFS, please.
They will spend billions to deliver a vehicle that will sell about 3k cars a year. This is one reason their bottom line stinks. Not investable.
I would have bought one but calling it a Mustang made me buy a Tesla instead.
That is not a rally car. Just because the word "rally" is slapped on the side of it doesn't make it so. Just marketing
Nothing screams Rally like a 480hp 5000lbs electric SUV? Rally cars need to be nimble. Doesnt a Lightning Raptor make more sense? This thing is more like a Mach E Wilderness Edition.
Also...Yeah Dirtfish!
Oof, Ford getting desperate. Wait till a rock or sharp object punctures the battery and a $50,000 bill for a new battery 😂😊
Classic Ford, just make it "appear" different, and call it special. 🤦🏻♂️
Love the car but its way overpriced. Keeping my Rivian thanks,.
Stupid overpriced for what it offers. Even the last Ford RS was only 36k
Mock Mustang👎
I hope it drives better than it looks. That thing is ugly.
First of all it's not a "car", second it's not a Mustang. The people at Ford are terrible with their names...
I’d proffer that if Ford named it a mustang, it’s a mustang. Also “car” is now synonymous with “vehicle” so there’s that.
Yawn. Old tired argument. It has a pony and says Mustang. The people that build it call it a Mustang. Go cry into your lil red gas can.
Except it is a Mustang. Ford gets to decide that.
Hate much? What a child
Ridiculous.
😭😭😭😭😭
Dumb!!
Not a mustang. And EV's suck. Overpriced and inefficient.
Ev’s suck yet you are here? So you watch videos of things you are disinterested in and troll. Enjoy!
I want to see Roman rally race that.
Several thousand bucks for different wheels and an inch of suspension travel.
This is far from the first electric rally car. Go watch Nitro Rallycross. They've been using one for a while now. That being said, I think this Mach E is pretty cool.