1 Year Later: How's the Mach-E Doing?
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In this video I discuss what issues we've had in our first year of ownership with our 2022 Ford Mustang Mach-E Premium AWD with the Standard Range battery. While most of the issues are minor, there was one bigger issue that Mach-E owners should watch out for.
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Wow it's already been a year, I can remember the video of you revealing your Mach E but it doesn't feel like a year ago.
It was necessary for EV prices to come down. Early adoption has been saturated. The mainstream phase has begun which means price parity with other gas cars and more affordable options.
My sister's father-in-law has a Mach-E GT. Black on black w/black wheels and tinted windows. It is so hot looking. And man is it fast. Glad you got the rotor/brake pad issue resolved.
Hat as far as what a prius?
That man has good taste. I’ve got the same car even down to the tinted windows. I call it the “Night Mare” as a play on the horse theme.
Mach E vehicle sales have come to a screeching halt. No one is buying them. Some dealerships are NOT accepting used Mach E vehicles as trade ins.
Lol
Ford would never had tried to pull that fast one on SubaruWRXFan, if only he was still here with us...
Yeah wonder what happened to him
If you use one pedal driving, you need to turn it off and use the brakes once in a while to scrub the rotors. Also, the front brakes do most of the work, so the back brakes don’t do much at all on the Mach-E unless you really smash the brakes.
Rust buildup on rotors is also somewhat common on EVs that either aren’t driven much or haven’t had much use of the friction brakes for a long period.
Rust on rotors happens on any car, not just EV's.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 Yes, but on EVs, there are situations where regen is 100% of the braking force needed to slow the vehicle and the friction brakes don’t engage at all. That’s not the case with ICE vehicles.
I noticed the GM Volt didn't have this rust buildup problem, despite living in Minnesota. I'm assuming a well tuned brake/regen system will always use friction braking down at lower speeds. Volt regen was just as aggressive as other BEVs we've owned. Or it could be more resilient materials, an interesting observation nonetheless. The Kia Niro BEV rusted all four rotors the moment we took it home.
@b286guy yeah, but that's not what you said originally.
@@b286guy Rust build up isn’t an issue. To regulate that, car washing is also necessary for ANY vehicle. If you’re not washing the vehicle regularly, then you’re not removing the deposits/grime off the rotors. Pretty common logic.
Haven’t had the brake issue on mine but don’t use 1 pedal. Yeah keep auto updates on for BlueCruise 1.3!
We don't use 1 pedal either, but the regen brakes still are the main ones operating under light to medium braking. I'm excited to try BlueCruise 1.3!
Another nice update on the Mustang Mach-E. My auto wipers have worked great. I guess I would have to see what yours are doing to see if how big of an issue it is. The brake pad issue is definitely out of the normal. I haven't seen that issue before on the Mach-E forum or in my own experience. But I also put over 20,000 miles in my Mach-E in a year 😅. I totally would have understood your hesitation to get the Mach-E standard range if you knew about the max charge speed. Once again, glad it hasn't been an issue. I know Ford push out an update to fix the high voltage junction box issue but that is the one thing I'm still somewhat concerned about on my Mustang. I don't push mine too hard but I really wish Ford did a proper part replacement for them just in case.
Thanks for the feedback on the wipers! Maybe it's just ours then. That's impressive that you do 20k+ miles a year in yours! It looks like the NHTSA is investigating the fix so hopefully Ford does a proper part replacement for yours. Thankfully ours I think just barely made the cutoff for the new box since ours completed production in June and the recall only goes into May.
Anyone purchasing a car expecting it to maintain or increase value is in for a big surprise. That's not an issue related to EVs specifically. Yes, the used prices for EV's are down but part of that is related to how fast the technology is changing. Either way, cars hardly ever increase in value over time.
We are about to turn in our EV off of lease and will probably purchase a Mach-E this round instead of going with another lease because we plan on keeping it long-term (10 years plus with any luck). The resale value isn't a negative in my eyes but maybe that's just my specific use case.
Anyway, great review. Thanks for posting this.
The Mach-E is really cool for sure. I think it’s a really good vehicle for now, but I’d be a little concerned that when there are more electric vehicles there won’t be enough infrastructure to reliably be able to drive long distances as there won’t be enough charging stations to fill the demand.
Thousands of new charging stations are coming online every year, and with the recent slowing of EV demand, I don't think charging will have a problem keeping up with EV sales at the current rate.
The phone thing is not isolated to Fords. My son-in-law has a new Chevy that insists on connecting to my daughter’s phone even after his was set to favorite. My ‘19 Edge doesn’t have the issue. I set mine to primary and it connects me first always.
It's so weird how some cars do that, I don't get it.
GT Performance owner: my wipers work in the auto mode without any problems; No rotor issues yet after 12.5 months, 15700 miles, lots of hills here on my commute running in one pedal mode; maximum charging speed has been 163kw (only 3 times, usually 104-137); range was 270 then jumped up to 280 for a brief time now 250-265 depending on how I am driving it, 240 for mountainous route (I-76: Breezewood to Pittsburgh).
All of the OG subscribers jaw had to hit the floor hearing Matt has a vehicle with only 5,000 miles
Yeah, I miss all the driving I used to do in my personal cars!
The Apple car play problem doesn’t just happen in the Mach E. Everytime I hop in our 2023 Ford Bronco, it connects to my mom’s phone instead of mine and she’s across the house lol
Happens to me all the time, connects to my wife's phone even when the profile is associated with my key
Haha interesting, I guess it's just a Ford thing then lol.
We just copied you and got a Mach E premium to pair with our 2019 Bullitt - only difference is they’re both matching in black
Nice, congrats! I think it's a great combo :)
Also the wireless phone charger doesn’t work well if you have a thick case on your phone
Mind you this is when you don’t plug the phone into a lightning adapter, just the wireless phone charging capability is lacking
Rust builds up on the rotors if you use the 1Pedal driving. Then when you use the brake pedal, the pads scrub the rotors. This scores the rotors. It happened to me in my 2021 Mach e. So I rarely use the 1 Pedal drive.
How time flies! Weve had our First Edition Mach-E for 2.5 years now, still soing great, but I totally feel you on thr CarPlay thing. I was watching a RUclips video on my phone in my office today when my husband left the house to run errands, my video suddenly cut out and I realized it was cuz my phone was connecting to the car even though he was SITTING IN IT 😆. I've actually used the voice feedback option in the car to leave feedback asking for a default/priority phone setting. You should do the same. Maybe one day in 2025 they'll get to it...2.5 years in and theyre still working on Dog Mode so im not holding my breath haha. We also did Ford Options but honestly there's nothing else out there that I want that's better than the Mach-E, and prices are so much higher now for new EVs than they were a few yeara ago (after incentives we only paid $45k for ours) that we may just buy out the options balloon payment and keep it a few more years.
Glad to hear that yours is great but sorry to hear that you have the same annoying CarPlay issue haha. I didn't know there was a voice feedback feature, I'll have to try that. Did you do the 3 or 4 year Ford Options? Higher pricing is tough, maybe whatever Ford does for the refresh will entice you to upgrade, that's a potential play for us in 3 years (we did the 4 year term).
Matt I’m seriously looking into a Mach E but really worried about winter performance. My research shows the Mach E is terrible in the winter because of the lack of a heat pump. And I’m up in Toronto, Canada. What has your winter experience been like?
I talked about my experience last winter in this video: ruclips.net/video/TLUuRNDVQaM/видео.html
It loses a lot, but we never drive more than 30 miles a day anyway so it doesn't bother us personally.
6000 miles in a year is pretty low! You'll definitely be able to keep it for a while and hopefully by then the prices level out more in your favor.
I hope so!
Great update! That’s good to know that charge speed is different for the standard version
I ordered a Mach-e in July of 2023. Have not heard a word from Ford and it is mid October. I did research soon afterwards and decided to test drive a Tesla Model Y. Ordered one August 8 and it arrived Aug 28th! IMHO is a better vehicle other than the looks. I am now driving a Model Y Performance with FSD and probably will never look back
Imagine owning a car that never needs an "update" from a satellite. Maybe someday!
The future is now
You mean like almost all cars currently on the road except for new ones?
@@androiduberalles My dad just bought a new 24 x5 comp... no updates needed u put gas and drive it. crazy how that works
THIS is why I lease cars. Had a great CRV... except sometimes the transmission would slip. I could never replicate it for the dealer or a mechanic, but I KNEW something was off about the car.
And that is exactly why I DON'T prefer wireless Android Auto/Apple CarPlay over wired.
From most I've talked to (anecdotal I know) we are going to see a bit of the osborne effect before gen 2 EVS arrive from mainstream OEMs. We know better batteries are coming and lower costs with higher range, along with the addition of the NACS port. My guess is sales remain relatively low until 2025-2026. After that expect explosion of EVs that are affordable.
Ive had several vehicles that left Scoring on rotors even new ones. It was always an issue with the Pads that caused it. Once it was some metal debris that caused it in one car i had.
Was the AWD Mach E X with the extended battery never a consideration especially for any road trips or peace of mind Matt?
My #1 must have for an EV is physical HVAC controls. I don't want an OTA update bricking my defroster lol
I have 2 2021 Premiums. The brake pads broke up and fused to the rotor on car 1. Same issue happened on car 2 in Jan 2023 & again in Jan 2024. (Car 2 also had to be towed in for the junction box). Fun to drive tho...
Ugh sorry about your bad luck with them.
You’re not the first reviewer to mention the phone connectivity issue. Another RUclipsr mentioned that it’s especially heinous when both (connected) drivers are in the car at the same time. He mentioned that it has happened several times during road trips when directions were paramount at the time. That sucks and I hope Ford is listening.
The apple carplay issue you mentioned is a known issue for wireless connections. I think for all cars with it
omg, only 5,000 miles?? I have 18,000 after ten months on my '22. Only issue I had was with DC fast charging. I took it to Ford and they found something had broken off into the charging port. They took it out and I've not had an issue since. Honestly haven't used the wipers more than a few times since last November.
Same issues.. selecting the wrong phone drives me nuts. In Addition to the auto wipers not working well the quality of the wipers seems like junk. I also wonder what others experience when changing driving profiles. If I turn the “sound” off, I can’t tell the difference between whisper and unbridled. No change. Anyone else?
I have two of them 2021 one has 124K the other one 17K I bought them brand new if you used to one touch pedal that’ll eliminate the issue but I’ve heard directly from the dealership that break service on those vehicles will run you between 15 and $1700 so get ready
Stuff like if you don’t drive your car the right amount your brakes destroy themselves is what led to Ford apologizing to share holders for how much it’s losing in warranty repairs with the promise of doing better , I never thought I’d see ford collapse like this. Can’t even recommend them to friends and family
Living in Seattle the auto wipers work perfectly
WHY WOULD THE FORD DEALER GIVE YOU NEW PADS AND CHEAP OUT ON THE CHEAPEST PART, THE PADS ??? DEALERSHIPS SMH.
Great video. Thinking of getting one.
Are you glad you bought the ford VS a Tesla model Y if that’s the equivalent?? And why??
Yeah, we liked the Mach-E better for the Apple CarPlay, having a gauge cluster, styling, and better fit and finish and quality than Tesla. We never considered the Tesla at all.
@@MattMaranMotoringso I guess you drove the Kia EV 6, and Ionique 5. When a reviewer owns the car says a lot about the Mach E👌
Is it just me but why would you want to stop and wait for ur car to charge when getting gas takes 5min.. seems like we're going backwards to me.
Because gas is 4.00 -5.00 bucks a gallon
@XX-th3mp yeah, but your time waiting for it to charge is costing you more than the cost of gas.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 not when the charging time is about 5-20 minutes. Some folks don’t need to charge to 80-100% but a suburban cost 100 bucks to fill up minimum.
Most of us are wasting LESS time by avoiding the gas/DC fast network all together. The beauty of refueling at home.... where the electricity is.
Exactly what @wzDH106 said. Overall in the past year, never having to go to a gas station and only doing DC fast charging on rare road trips means that I have spent far less time "refueling" than any gas vehicle. And even on those road trips, there is no delay if you plan your stops around bathroom/snack/meal breaks.
Thanks for the update of your MachE experience. Since you don't drive this car that much, what is your go to daily?
I review cars on this channel full-time, and since my channel is popular enough the manufacturers loan me cars for a week at a time to review. I have one of these loaners most weeks out of the year, so I mainly drive those. For the weeks when I don't have one, my personal car is a 2019 Mustang Bullitt.
I have similar issues with my Bronco - Sync wont update regardless of selecting all the days/times and enabling auto updates, so Im a good year behind. Also, I have warranty work that needs to be done, but I cant even get an apt with my dealership as they are on a waiting list. Ridiculous.
That sucks :/
Our C-Max had the same issue with the wipers.
How is the white interior holding up? ie maintenance etc
It still looks brand new with zero maintenance, but it's only been about 6k miles.
The land rover discovery auto wipers were the same way i had a 2017 land rover discovery sport and that system was horrible.
thanks for the update,
the brakes may not have cost you any money,
but it definitely cost you time.
so didn't cost you anything is not quite true,
glad the dealership was very friendly however.
True, thankfully I was able to bring my laptop with me and work at the dealership so I didn't lose out on too much time.
It’s a machine that needs maintenance just like all the rest of them.
I have a front camera error that completely removed its ability to self drive, use emergency braking, etc… so annoying and it keeps coming back
That sucks, dealer won't fix?
@@MattMaranMotoring yes but it’s pricey and out of warranty. And they want it for 3 days no loaner car. It got the error at 37k miles and had an appointment. They canceled my appointment and by the time they had more availability for my appointment it was at 38k, which is the limit for free repair…
Thanks for the update.
Someone once gave me a plausible answer to this issue. Right hand drive countries and Left hand drive regions had opposite rear rotor uneven wear. EV and Hybrids suffer more in particular.
On ours both rear rotors were grooved, but yeah seems like it's a side effect of all the regen braking sometimes.
@@MattMaranMotoring , yes Regen is the major contribution to it.
Always a great review.
What were you doing in Columbus?
Went to the zoo!
Does it have Netflix and RUclips already?
I thought only the selects had lower charge speed of 115kw? Looks like you have a premium and they should be 150kw. Max ive got has been 164kw on a trip this past spring.
No, it’s a limitation of the small battery pack we have. We have a standard range premium.
It’s not the trim level it’s the battery size.
I agree with you it’s better to lease a electric car because back in May my dad got his very first electric car. A 2023 Kia Niro EV because he originally wanted to buy it because he did not want to lease again. After leasing his cars for many years. But he did it anyway because it was cheaper. And plus with new electric cars coming out every year with even better battery technology and other great technology. It’s always better to lease if you get a electric car.
Matt - I have a month old 23’ scat pack and getting grooves in one of the pads. Any suggestions prior to taking it up to the dealer. Ty
I'd just take it to the dealer, sounds like your car might have sat and gotten buildup on the pads before you bought it.
There are a lot of great EV’s out there but the only problem is the charging infrastructure. Very limited still & not that fast of charging. Tesla is still 10yrs ahead.
even if u gave away EVs for the next 50 years infrastructure wouldnt be in place and oculdnt keep up with demand and the whole thing cant work. EV is mental illness
As far as your phone connection issue it might not be the car I think it could be the phone because this isn't just an issue with Ford's Sync 4. The exact same thing happens with VW where it will chose a second phone even if it's nowhere near the car & your are correct, there isn't a way to say who's primary or secondary, at least none that I've found. The easiest way to clear it out is to plug it in then the next time you get in it should pick it right up. The part where the manufactures need to improve is to be able to select which is the primary, secondary and so on.
I’ve still never seen one of these on the street.
I'd love to watch you in a dealership buying a vehicle! You have such a chill and calm demeanor, but I could imagine you really can negotiate your way through stuff!
Haha thankfully I haven't had to do much negotiating in a while. The Mach-E dealer was cool and was fine with MSRP last year, and before that the other Ford dealer treated me great with the Bullitt.
For a 48k car, I would expect things to work a lot better but Ford is a car manufacturer first, software developer never. I've own a Tesla and drive a Mach E. Enjoy the drive better in a Mach E but the software can use some refinement. If history is to show, Ford will likely not do much past the introduction of their next iteration
The app needs a major overhaul…!!! No ability to adjust charging %, departure times and other features would be nice…!
It looked dated to me before production started. Interior is nice.
Neutral for downhill driving? But there's a brake pedal
Also if you rest the ev history you should gain about 39 more miles on your car
Great review Matt good to see these. Having had it and all as an owner gives the insight. I think you should get the new Landcruiser for safety of your family. Your precious daughter and wife will love it, can do road trips and will hold value (we hope). I’m keeping my 2021 Landcruiser Heritage edition however 😊
Time to sell but keep Bullitt!! I noted the price drop around me on Mach E.
The new Land Cruiser is cool, but the Mach-E gets top safety marks and is 5,000 lbs, so I'm very happy with it's safety for the family :)
6k driving isn't anything that's basically a new car still.
I still remember where I was when you said you got a Mach E. It was a stab in the back for the gearbox community. Still heartbroken about it. 😁 but foreal there are so many better options out there. Ford has been going downhill with quality and customer satisfaction
Mass market cars depreciate. That's 2hat they do.
Nice Matt. If we lived closer I'd tint your side windows while we hang out
I appreciate the offer!
Matt’s kinda pissed about the phone pairing thing
CARS ARE USE ITEMS SO THERE WILL ALWAYS BE "CHECK UP'S". REGARDLESS OF YOUR DRIVING STYLE OR LOCATION, ITS ALWAYS A GOOD IDEA TO INSPECT YOUR VEHICLES CONDITION AS IT NOT ONLY FOR YOUR SAFETY BUT EVERYONE ELSES AS WELL. LONG LIVE I.C.E. ENGINES AND CAR ENTHUSIASTS NEED TO PUSH FOR HYDROGEN..WITH HYDROGEN WE GET TO KEEP ALL WE LOVE ABOUT CARS ALL WITHOUT GREENHOUSE GASES.
beautiful car, and well made unlike tesla trash
Drum brakes are probably a logical transition for rear EV wheels, despite the cosmetic regression.
Whether you have drum or rotor, brakes is not that relevant whether it’s a gas or EV. Sure they might not be used as much on an EV but the tolerance for the brake pads against the rotors is so small that you don’t need to press the brakes just to clean rust off.
How much are a set of pads...really, cheap ass', bad customer service right there❗️
Do it right the first time, pretty easy🤔🙄💀
New cars depreciate unfortunately.
The drop in value is the economy, not Ford. You overpaid for it a year ago, everyone who purchased a vehicle (myself included). It is what it is. Nothing you can do about it.
The value of EVs in general has dropped quite a bit more than gas engine cars. This is mostly due to Tesla dropping the price on their vehicles by 33 percent.
@@LeadfootLou it has NOTHING to do with Tesla, but everything to do with the economy in general. No car holds its value, this is nothing new. People has to jump on the train and buy EV’s when the prices were insanely high, thats the price you pay when you don’t pay attention to the economy. In some cases some people need to purchase a vehicle at an in opportune time, but most of these RUclipsrs had to jump on the bandwagon and buy a vehicle at over inflated prices so they could make videos, and now look….. EV values have crashed. For them though, they made a buck or two on RUclips, so that should counteract their decrease in value.
That was just bad brake pads.
Why do people who barely drive buy electric to begin with? Makes zero financial sense whatsoever. If you are barely driving, you are barely using gas, so how is an electric vehicle benefiting you in any way? Realistically it’s not. You paid more for and EV, you pay more for insurance, you pay more to register the car in your state. So you aren’t paying for gas, is it really worth paying more for everything else just so you’d an say look at us we have an EV? Oh wait, you’ll say you don’t have maintenance costs, well there is that, but then again if you aren’t driving your ICE vehicle you don’t have the maintenance costs either.
Ford service sucks, i did my brakes myself on my mustang all around, car feels better than when it was new!!
Mach e is a good looking crossover. But model y is better at everything else. Price now. Range. Tech. Updates. Charging infrastructure..etc. you name it. Good luck.
What a shame...such a nice looking EV compared to a Tesla, but the Tesla is a much better value.
No offence but its time to go Japanese. You bluffed right? 🤪
I'm not opposed once our lease is up on the Mach-E, we'll see what the options are like in 3 years!
I’m so glad we went with tesla after hearing this review
My best friend has a Tesla for the past four years. He had three recalls of different things and at least three other times they’ve had to come to his house to repair things. Just because Tesla was the first doesn’t mean it’s better than everybody else’s brand.