Can tell John knows his stuff. He also seems like a bit of a natural on camera, nerves of steel. I hope he enjoys his career at Artisan, seems like a top bloke!.
Ooooooo he sounds like a guru of electrics. Very interesting when someone explains something and goes in depth. The EICR vids should be very interesting
The isolators that some suppliers / DNOs fit often have a separate removable lid for the top part, the idea being the 'customer side' can be accessed without exposing the still live supplier side - in those situations obviously coming in the top would be bad, but for an isolator without that sort of lid as you say it really doesn't matter...
Ah ok, mine (installed probably 10 years ago) has text on it such that if you flipped it then it'd be upside down and look very wrong, guess they've realised since that was a bad idea...
Welcome to the team, John! Interesting to hear Cory's views re the Hypervolt - would be interesting to hear if the company can explain why they've made the change as it does seem like they've made things worse rather than better!
They’ll probably say it’s plastic saving or something to make themselves look like they’re doing their bit. But it is a joke. I think bigger is better. Even for the user.
@@andrewdobson3518 If they really want to save plastics, they need to compress that stuff down into a DIN-rail module that goes into the consumer unit. Then the outside box would just be a tiny connector box with maybe (UK only) an isolation switch...
With the main earth still connected to the installation that test is very much defeated. As all cpc’s/existing bonding will give parallel paths ie your reading of 0.00 meg
Lucky you can open those meters. Had a house here this week lose power. Went out to see and the meter had disconnected. No errors given. It's prepaid so checked the credit and that was fine. Re-paired the CIU to the meter and tried loading another voucher which didn't work. Eventually found the disconnect reason code and it said the meter cover was open, which it wasn't. Anyway 26 hours after losing power and with lots of nagging, the electricity supplier sent a team to check and they couldn't even get it to energise with their tamper unlock codes. So they've bypassed it and will send the other team to replace it. What a pain.
When fitting isolators most I have fitted have a small cover at the bottom that comes away. Were the bigger part stays on but the small cover has to be off for that to come off. So for me the incoming is the top. So when off the bottom cover when off is dead.
When you do the clips on the new Hypervolt, cut an old credit card into 4 strips, slide a strip between each of the side clips as you open them, then pop the top and off it comes, otherwise you can go round and round till you feel like giving it a kick
I find the new Hypervolt’s pretty easy to wire. The worst part is removing those plastic clips to remove cover! According to their website the front cover is strong enough to have a vehicle drive over it.
The hypervolt has a raspberry pi in it, is it running off a sd card and if so isnt that prone to failure? and that explains why we cant get any pi's at the minute.
what i can't understand is how come you can't just remove the innards of the hypervolt, wire it up, and then clip the electric bits back in again would make so much more sense to have the back plate separate to the wiring stuff, they've done it with the cover but what do i know eh lol
@@tomorichard problem with this test is that people get told where to test to and from but not the preparation for the test, in this case isolate the incoming earth conductor. What he did was actually correct, if it was still over 22k ohms then that is fine, although personally I would allow a higher reading taking into consideration of the manufacturers instructions of the testers accuracy of typically 5%, if it was lower then you should definitely disconnect and retest.
Who's making the call to Hypervolt to give more space to terminate the cables? That's a bad redesign for sure. 👎 Back to the Zappy! Not really sure why one would want all the LED's on the EVSE equipment. Dark, unobtrusive is the best. Its a glorified wall plug. Is Hagger or MK going to add ring lights around the sockets as well to it would match the EVSE? 🤦♂ Most EV's can tell you when they are charging by its light, you don't need more. I guess the EVSE guys are thinking like the computer guys and putting RGB in the cases to keep up with them.
Looks like things aren’t going to well for Hypervolt…. Yellow cases, replacement boards, faulty plugs that don’t fit, arrogant CEO blocking criticism on forums… thank god i waited before buying one:
That spinning Neutral terminal screw is a massive let down IMO, I think HyperVolt might want to replace that unit,a bad Neutral connection,is just as bad as a bad Line/Active connection ⚡🔌⚡🔌
@@AllStarNES Haha,yeah it's possible, but I mean whether it was that or a manufacturing defect,the end result could be disastrous & just regarding the whole torque screwdriver thing, I don't believe in torque screwdrivers,I believe in learning how to terminate correctly,I have done just fine for the last 30yrs without one,to me it's a bit of a gimmick,teach young guys how to do it right & it will become part of their muscle memory!⚡
I’ve done a few of the new Hypervolts, I find them quite easy to connect, I don’t tend to swoop up and back down I just do a little loop right under the terminals. The rotary dial is really hidden, and the CT clamp plug is quite fiddly too. Still a nice unit I think.
That CT is used for RCD protection; it needs to measure the difference between line and neutral, so both need to pass through it. Also, as Yacoub said, neutral is a live conductor; it carries current in fault-free conditions.
The CT is used as RCD here, with neutral and line current cancelling each other out all is well. Any current goes to earth the CT will pick up the imbalance and trigger an isolation.
@@martinnorth9804 Many things are technically a criminal offence, 1mph over the speed limit, even for a split second, is a criminal offence... The law isn't absolute - if a law is never enforced and is treated with casualty and the breach of it has become accepted practice - then it is no longer a law but a bit of paper somewhere with some print on it.
Do you just leave the unused cat5 pairs dangling in the boxes, or heat shrink them well out of the way so they can’t possibly liven up any cu casework or bridge to neutral/pe should they float about at both ends?
I worked for a metering company and we wasn’t allowed to put tails in the bottom. Its stupid IMO because it makes no difference at all if there’s no inner insulation showing and the terminals are tight then who cares. Always some useless person higher up making the rules I guess.
Jobs are quoted on a price, any extra time on the job from filming is paid for via RUclips and sponsors. It most definitely is not passed onto the customers 😂. We will sometimes even be able to slightly discount jobs or materials in some instances thanks to RUclips.
Leave a like to say hello to our new Sparky John 👋🏼
Can tell John knows his stuff. He also seems like a bit of a natural on camera, nerves of steel. I hope he enjoys his career at Artisan, seems like a top bloke!.
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This… considering this is his first public outing he done very well. Looking forward to his future videos.
Hi John, welcome to the Artisan Electrics Team. Russ, from across the pond.
I used to work with John. We did our apprenticeships at the same company, TOP GUY!!
Ooooooo he sounds like a guru of electrics. Very interesting when someone explains something and goes in depth. The EICR vids should be very interesting
Thanks a lot guys and nice to see a new sparky here.
The isolators that some suppliers / DNOs fit often have a separate removable lid for the top part, the idea being the 'customer side' can be accessed without exposing the still live supplier side - in those situations obviously coming in the top would be bad, but for an isolator without that sort of lid as you say it really doesn't matter...
Generally those covers are reversible though, so the supplier can come into either end and then install the cover the appropriate way up.
All of the DP isolators now have covers that you can flip dependant on which side you have used as line/load
Ah ok, mine (installed probably 10 years ago) has text on it such that if you flipped it then it'd be upside down and look very wrong, guess they've realised since that was a bad idea...
Liking the new member of the team. John sounds like a man who knows electrics inside and out, excited to see more of him
Welcome to the team, John! Interesting to hear Cory's views re the Hypervolt - would be interesting to hear if the company can explain why they've made the change as it does seem like they've made things worse rather than better!
They’ll probably say it’s plastic saving or something to make themselves look like they’re doing their bit. But it is a joke. I think bigger is better. Even for the user.
@@andrewdobson3518 If they really want to save plastics, they need to compress that stuff down into a DIN-rail module that goes into the consumer unit. Then the outside box would just be a tiny connector box with maybe (UK only) an isolation switch...
They said that it’s redesign is purely to allow them to scale up production so they can chuck them out of the factory quicker.
Un-clipping the inner cover on the new units is an absolute pain in the arse. Design revision needed!
@@HenryLoenwind 100% it could be a generic ev module with A type rcd and pen fault detection and the socket out side will just house connector.
Great video guys love it so much here we are again hiring another amazing person and always will be
With the main earth still connected to the installation that test is very much defeated. As all cpc’s/existing bonding will give parallel paths ie your reading of 0.00 meg
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Welcome to the team, John! Great video guys. Thumbs up! Cheers!
Have been enjoying your videos for a while now and finally starting my apprenticeship on Monday.
Awesome! Congrats on the apprenticeship
Lucky you can open those meters.
Had a house here this week lose power.
Went out to see and the meter had disconnected. No errors given.
It's prepaid so checked the credit and that was fine.
Re-paired the CIU to the meter and tried loading another voucher which didn't work.
Eventually found the disconnect reason code and it said the meter cover was open, which it wasn't.
Anyway 26 hours after losing power and with lots of nagging, the electricity supplier sent a team to check and they couldn't even get it to energise with their tamper unlock codes.
So they've bypassed it and will send the other team to replace it.
What a pain.
Excellent video.😀
When fitting isolators most I have fitted have a small cover at the bottom that comes away. Were the bigger part stays on but the small cover has to be off for that to come off. So for me the incoming is the top. So when off the bottom cover when off is dead.
When you do the clips on the new Hypervolt, cut an old credit card into 4 strips, slide a strip between each of the side clips as you open them, then pop the top and off it comes, otherwise you can go round and round till you feel like giving it a kick
Welcome John 🙏 🤙🏼
Great Video!!
Really enjoyed this one! Good luck in your new venture John 🙌🏽
John is a awesome electrician !
Welcome to Artisan John 😎
love a bit of John on the team
Great vlog.
Nice one John all the best with artisan 🙌🏻
welcome to John to the Artisan team
John knows his onions!
I find the new Hypervolt’s pretty easy to wire. The worst part is removing those plastic clips to remove cover!
According to their website the front cover is strong enough to have a vehicle drive over it.
I'd love to see a live video of them trying...
Jordan was going to try driving over one but by the time he'd defrosted the van its range wasn't sufficient!
😂😂😂
@@artisanelectrics Jordan you gonna take that!? 🤣🤣
At least you have found a John with a neck!!!
Is that pipe carier painted originally or afterwards? Thanks
How did you guys sort the neutral terminal?
Allway trying to learn and improve, It’s great when you explain things ⚡️👊.
looks as fun to work in as the project EV chargers 🙃
I think this is the first time I’ve seen your guys installed anything other than a Hager board.
Nice one lads - Hi John - That Hypervolt is pants !
Nice one........ haven't heard about Pablo the seal man for a while............. good to hear he's survived covid ;)
Hi John. 👍
Welcome John! You've got a "goodun" there Jordan!
The hypervolt has a raspberry pi in it, is it running off a sd card and if so isnt that prone to failure? and that explains why we cant get any pi's at the minute.
10:10 Pablo works round Cambridge doesn't he? Bit camera shy but must have popped in? Also, congrats John!
Hello sparky John 👋 and I agree Sherlock the dog 🐕 this is a great video 😀
what i can't understand is how come you can't just remove the innards of the hypervolt, wire it up, and then clip the electric bits back in again
would make so much more sense to have the back plate separate to the wiring stuff, they've done it with the cover
but what do i know eh lol
Was the incoming earth isolated when you carried out the extraneous conductive parts test?
Exactly what I was thinking. The test by definition is to see the differing potential from installation earth and extraneous conductive part.
@@tomorichard problem with this test is that people get told where to test to and from but not the preparation for the test, in this case isolate the incoming earth conductor.
What he did was actually correct, if it was still over 22k ohms then that is fine, although personally I would allow a higher reading taking into consideration of the manufacturers instructions of the testers accuracy of typically 5%, if it was lower then you should definitely disconnect and retest.
@@MrSJT I agree 👍
Another good video ! Always more to learn and these videos help
Glad to hear it!
Uncle Dan's proud. Get the fucking beers in I'm skint
John's a good edition
Who's making the call to Hypervolt to give more space to terminate the cables? That's a bad redesign for sure. 👎 Back to the Zappy! Not really sure why one would want all the LED's on the EVSE equipment. Dark, unobtrusive is the best. Its a glorified wall plug. Is Hagger or MK going to add ring lights around the sockets as well to it would match the EVSE? 🤦♂ Most EV's can tell you when they are charging by its light, you don't need more. I guess the EVSE guys are thinking like the computer guys and putting RGB in the cases to keep up with them.
Nothing wrong with the new design Hypervolt, both versions just as easy to terminate. Plenty of space compared to an EO or SyncEV
Regards extraneous conductive part I have read that shouldn't be less than 7.6K based on RCD protection 30mA. Anyone knows more about it?
I was interested to see that the Hypervolt charger seems to use a Raspberry Pi 4 for its brain.
Where is john now havent seen him since
Looks like things aren’t going to well for Hypervolt…. Yellow cases, replacement boards, faulty plugs that don’t fit, arrogant CEO blocking criticism on forums… thank god i waited before buying one:
That spinning Neutral terminal screw is a massive let down IMO, I think HyperVolt might want to replace that unit,a bad Neutral connection,is just as bad as a bad Line/Active connection ⚡🔌⚡🔌
Probably over torqued through fear of leaving a loose connection as a new employee on equipment that they've had no experience with.
@@AllStarNES Haha,yeah it's possible, but I mean whether it was that or a manufacturing defect,the end result could be disastrous & just regarding the whole torque screwdriver thing, I don't believe in torque screwdrivers,I believe in learning how to terminate correctly,I have done just fine for the last 30yrs without one,to me it's a bit of a gimmick,teach young guys how to do it right & it will become part of their muscle memory!⚡
I’ve done a few of the new Hypervolts, I find them quite easy to connect, I don’t tend to swoop up and back down I just do a little loop right under the terminals.
The rotary dial is really hidden, and the CT clamp plug is quite fiddly too.
Still a nice unit I think.
Isn't the CT suppose to be on LIVE wire not Live + N. Or am i missing something.
Both Neutral and Line are LIVE conductors 😁
That CT is used for RCD protection; it needs to measure the difference between line and neutral, so both need to pass through it. Also, as Yacoub said, neutral is a live conductor; it carries current in fault-free conditions.
The CT is used as RCD here, with neutral and line current cancelling each other out all is well. Any current goes to earth the CT will pick up the imbalance and trigger an isolation.
Can you do a video on the IR test for whether you bond something or not please
Guidance note 8 has this test outlined. 👍
@@tomorichard in a video?
@@tomorichard …thanks for the reply
Why does hypervolt have raspberry pi inside it?
Ahh yes, the meter seal fairy! what would we do without her hey!
Have we been a naughty boy then?
Well it's only a criminal offence to break a meter seal!!
@@martinnorth9804 Many things are technically a criminal offence, 1mph over the speed limit, even for a split second, is a criminal offence...
The law isn't absolute - if a law is never enforced and is treated with casualty and the breach of it has become accepted practice - then it is no longer a law but a bit of paper somewhere with some print on it.
I like Johns attitude if in doubt if its got a potential act as an earth or be a possible pathway in the future bond it
Weird to see a Raspberry PI visible in the EV charger.
It changed a lot since then. They developed their own embedded system, so more Raspberry.
its true john used to work for nasa, before being headhunted. he couldnt turn down the wages jordan is offering at artisan.
It's actually 0.03 meg you're looking for ... 0.02 could still be less than 23 kilo ohms...
Do you just leave the unused cat5 pairs dangling in the boxes, or heat shrink them well out of the way so they can’t possibly liven up any cu casework or bridge to neutral/pe should they float about at both ends?
I like new guy.
I know John he’s not only a spark but a cocaine kingpin
Cory complain to Hypervolt about design of the new design
I thought this was the Adam/Ruban wife apprentice swap already.
Hold on tight.
Metal service cutouts should be reported so they can be replaced for plastic
Why dont you gys just make an artisan merch!i would admire wearing your t shirts commercing you
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I wouldn’t like to fit one of them new ones really prefer my one the older style they design has gained nothing
The new Hypervolt is awful, the original is a lot better. Have you had many with the wifi fault?
I worked for a metering company and we wasn’t allowed to put tails in the bottom. Its stupid IMO because it makes no difference at all if there’s no inner insulation showing and the terminals are tight then who cares. Always some useless person higher up making the rules I guess.
Was John stood in a hole
Horrible metal clad cut out! Live and neutral in the cutout are not the norm.
Do your customers pay for the time you spend on making videos?
Was that a joke. They always ask if they can film and more to the point whats that got to do with you?
Jobs are quoted on a price, any extra time on the job from filming is paid for via RUclips and sponsors. It most definitely is not passed onto the customers 😂. We will sometimes even be able to slightly discount jobs or materials in some instances thanks to RUclips.
Naturally
@@sionpritchard2060 What does my question got to do with you? Are you their press representative?
@@artisanelectrics Thank you for your answer.