FAULT FINDING ON A HEATING SYSTEM! PRESSURE TO BEAT THE CLOCK! 🤯
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- Опубликовано: 29 июн 2022
- FAULT FINDING ON A HEATING SYSTEM! PRESSURE TO BEAT THE CLOCK! 🤯
Beat the clock! Tackling electrical fault finds can be super challenging and highly satisfying all at the same time! How do you handle the pressure when fault finding? In this episode, Cory has a packed day of multiple electrical faults finds and an EICR can he get everything complete in the allowed day?
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⏱️Timestamps
05:06 Red Hot Heating
08:40 Double Check
10:56 Next Job
13:31 Let’s Get Started
14:22 First Things First
16:55 Junction Boxes
19:23 Tamioelectrics
20:51 Ring Testing
21:46 Onto The Next One
24:12 Not Filled In
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"No fishy smell. VERY important in multiple aspects of life" - Corey, 2022 😁
Another great show guys 👍
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You see how he hit that valve , that’s what a pro sparky looks like , established the problem and then proved his thoughts and walks away knowing exactly where the issue was with use of drawings his experience and test equipment, new to the trade people would do well to follow that advice not just be a parts changer or a “call a plumber” merchant
Thanks mate!
Hope you didn't charge them? ☺️
@@glenndyer9967 you have to. Who pays for fuel insurance?
John Ward is a flipping legend !!
All of my (limited) electrical knowledge comes from him.
True, John is a legend. He has a good channel for wiring.
John taught me more than college!
❤5:18 neat squash, the drink of winners!🤣
I didn't wire the Quintec box on the last job, but i watched you do it perfectly. I'm feeling your pain.
inside the fixed part of the valve is a short arm which has a small rubber ball which covers or opens the flow of water,i have changed quite a few due to the rubber ball deteriating and breaking up and getting lodged in the arm
Came here to just say this exact thing. Joe is 101% correct
I think you are being very generous with whoever installed that outside light fitting!
Cory is a generous guy 😂
@@artisanelectrics except when the Pringles are on offer!!
That particular style of socket protector you can often actually get a wire down in the gap where the pins click in... making live parts more accessible than not having it!
Plug covers are actually quite dangerous in the UK with the shuttered outlets it's something that has drifted across the pond. I forget It was a John Ward thing or some safety video I ran a crossed.
Honeywell app is a winner for diagnosing these issues.
the Bosch go2 screwdriver is brilliant but there 1 problem with it, is that it's round. when you put it down on a side it rolls off.
Glad to see Cory is back and on form again, I was beginning to think he had disappeared for good.
They said he had been doing more pricing up jobs and site surveys etc, but I wasn’t convinced.
Hope all is well Cory, still the best. 👍👍👍
Cheers Chris, I appreciate it 😎👍🏼
@@corymacmarry me
That was a very entertaining half hour Cory, thank you for that. I have had an electric screwdriver for years and always got the mickey taken out of me on site but like you say, it saves your wrists and gets things like second fixing done in no time. Keep up the good work.
Wise words!
Another excellent job(s) Cody, you’re the man 😁👌👌👏👏👏❤️
13:46 a book on fish 🤣. Just after the fish comment
Excellent video. I really like the logic behind the fault finding.
Cheers Paul!
I hope lots of young sparks watch the channel, wish I had you tube when I was young!! Excellent tips and I must say very well presented considering you're actually doing the job.
Love the link you have for the r1+r2 I have the same link off the guy on ebay.
Only thing I wish was if the drill bit was longer for crabtree rcbo's as it has a deep line terminal.
Also I would c2 the the spot lights in the kitchen as it does not pose an immediate danger but is likely to cause a danger in the event of a fire.
Excellent video - makes me want to watch more regularly again!
Thanks Peter!!!
Great job Cory as always.
Fire-rated downlights, while they're an excellent upgrade, are not required when the room above is part of the same dwelling. The ones installed here were approved and (assuming the ceiling isn't insulated) there's plenty of room for air to circulate. The greater risk comes when they're above an upstairs room and covered with insulation, with no air circulation. The lamps overheat and fail prematurely, and there's a fire risk. So possibly C3 but I'd put it in notes advising energy saving advantages of upgrading.
My thinking exactly
8:18: a stiff valve *shouldn't* (though anything is possible) burn out the motor.
The motors are designed to spend most of their life stalled. On a single port valve, they run to the end of travel and just sit there with current running through them desperately trying to push the valve more open, but alas in vain.
Like the wind turbine service boats that just sit there rammed against the base of the turbine.
The motors are a common enough failure that you can pick up replacements and knock-off replacements everywhere.
Great insight there thanks for sharing your wisdom and knowledge with us
One of the best videos for a while. Great to see the nitty gritty!
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it
Welcome back keep up the good work
So professional
You need starting to use the type of connection / switch boxes we use in rest of Europe and "sikringsskap" as in Norway
Cory . Again your a star.
You’ve got 2 zone valves. 1 working 1 isn’t. Check wiring. Then confirm what you already know by swapping working zone valve over to the non working zone valve. Absolutely no need to faf about dissecting the unit if you claim you’re trying to save the customer coin.
Zone valve failure is very common. If heating or hw are on when not being called for you can almost guarantee its a valve at fault
So true
The Tamioelectrics are a nice find, thanks :)
Glad you like them!
Fault finding on a stuck valve. Power off, does the level move back? If not either stuck valve, worn motor or broken spring. Pop the head off, if the lever returns it’s the valve, if not it’s the motor or if your really lucky a springs come off.
Great simple steps to follow there thanks for sharing
Great video Cory 😎
Thanks Richard!
Glad I’m not the only qualified spark with a screenshot of John wards wiring diagrams 😂
What did you code the flex just stabbed in the front of that three gang switch ?
Good fault finding mate.
Cory I think the tanks too hot for the valve to work. need to check the if there a 240v on the brown (from cylinder stat)
Probably dont butter no parsnips!
if there is power to the brown wire and motor does not move to open position it is faulty motor. you can change sycron motor or replace head you dont need to take sycron motor off
For the unvented cylinder
If the hot water is constantly on and won’t switch off
Check if there is a demand for hot water
If there is and the zone valve is free then that’s operating correctly
If you close the demand off then you should feel resistance, if you do then the zone valve is operating correctly also
If the zone valve is continuously open and causing the boiler to repeatedly fire up to heat the hot water then the likely issue the the cylinder thermostat.
If the cylinder stat is at 65 degrees it’ll cause the boiler to fire much more times than it would if it’s at 60 degrees
Something as simple as turning the cylinder stat down slightly can have a big impact and the above can be checked within 5 mins
Too much length on those conductors Cory admit it the guy who put up that fitting should have tailored the conductors to the available room within the fitting rather than leaving all conductors long and then cramming them all in before making a quick get away. They've simply dropped the ball there on this one.
They might be fire rated fittings what makes you think there not??
Exelent
great video.. what bag do you use for your tester?
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well done Cory
Thanks Phillip!
Waiting for a new upload to get my artisan fix 🤓😚
Fix complete!
Nice video cory
Thanks!
Cheers Les
If that is put in recent there is a bad batch of honeywell valves atm would tie up with it it good work cory 👍
Very interesting thanks
This way you look like an Al Capone lokking for waking someone🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why wasn't the valve motor working when the unit was apart ?
Did iti (industrial training institute)from India what should i do now ?
And he hates child socket covers , what’s this feeling IS IT LOVE
Bosch go a god send for testing will save the gangrene on the wrists
Where penetrating the fire barrier between habitable floors, it would be a C3.
Heating wiring centres are the biggest ballache because they are often not installed by electricians, who finish up in some hot and cramped space, fixing someone else’s lousy work.
Lunch breaks are compulsory - you need time out - otherwise your blood sugar level drops dangerously low and you finish up working in panic mode.
So true!
Just replace the sycromesh motor it's replaceable part, test at the joint box!
Thats what i did, £10 ebay :-)
Nice
Hay where can I buy one of them yellow panel test leads very handy 👍
eBay chap - search for R1R2 lead (link) I have one - magnet is not great but it does the job
There is a link in the description of the video I believe
I can't believe when tenants leave there houses in such a state and don't leave a clear and safe environment for you to work in. Working in enclosed spaces is difficult enough without having to deal with that. I think I would request the area be fully cleared of all obstructions prior to starting work or perhaps I am wrong?
In Denmark it's customary to clear out the area around whatever you want to have fixed, no matter it it's electrical, plumbing, or something else, as the techs who show up have the right to refuse the job if they don't have easy (or as easy as possible) access to everything they need to work on. This is also why everywhere in Europe now have strict regulations for where you can install things like the electrical main board. Post-Covid it's also become the norm for many companies to demand you clean and sterilize as much as possible, and to give the techs plenty of distance to do their job
Great video Cory! Still blows my mind your early 20s 🤣
Non fire rated downlights above a bedroom… C2 all day in my eyes
With that testing link, is that the one with a pz2 and crocodile clip? Do you remove your cpc from th bar when doing R1+R2?
Could be a fake passport and I’m actually from Bolivia and 36….
@@corynoahmac a reply from the man him self, I can die happy now
@@corynoahmac haha
You mean under a bedroom…
The switch is only auxiliary to bring on the boiler, it's called boiler interlink the wrong guy was called to fix the problem. Next time call a heating engineer
Excellent as they say Knolwedge is power and this lad is top dollar 👍👍
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Cheers Paul!
He's good isnt he
My bosch driver failed within 2 years I only used it half a dozen times.
Wow that’s a shame
Holy shit
That upgraded box of controllers is annoying
Since you had it in bits might as well fitted a new motor
I would have fitted a new motor or complete valve. Save the customer calling out a plumber.
Especially if it was a old age pensioner, or a hard up family 👪.
Sorry but I've always been like that.😉😊
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Concerning the first job, I don't understand how a hot water system could be installed without any pipe insulation at all. What a waste of energy! And in 12:51 the light was flickering when the DB cover flew off. Didn't you notice that? Looked like there must be a loose connection.
The board cover could of just knocked the breaker switch as it flew off would explain the timing of it flickering then staying on again. Its happened to me many times
It's quite common to have uninsulated pipes running throughout a property. Generally there's no point insulating the small amount you can get to, if you're not going to dobthe full run. Some of mine, from a shower pump, go into the attic and back down, and they're fully insulated. But the CH pipes are like underfloor heating!
@@tobysherring1369 IMHO, it makes sense, in cases without hot water circulating even if only the first metres are done because as long as the hot water is not flowing through the pipse, the energy losses are decreasing with increasing distance to the boiler/tank. In those cases where the hot water is circulating, a proper insulation throughout the full length is crucial.
It’s a type ‘A’ RCD, however you will need to test as if it’s a type AC, this is why IET wiring regs is “non statutory” 🤷🏼♂️
Very true
So test the AC and the A side?
John Ward has a very different style to Big Clive, both top chaps.
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The manufacturer of those Metal Back Boxes needs to made them on that way is better
Saving time no need to by them separately
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I did that I put the r1 + r2 link on a live circuit I won’t do that again 😳
Ouch 😓
This is why you pay for a pro. 10 checks in 5s that would take you ten days if your weren't familiar. Happily pay and hour for that 5s of pro looking and diagnosis.
That give me the shits, when you do a tidy job and the next bloke does not care. Maybe that's the best he can do.
The main earth is still in the bar,lucky thing, grab me a pint🍺🍻😁🔌⚡
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Please ask Cory where he got his Apple Watch strap
Shades are fine, pink festival wristband not so much...
PIP fest Oslo - amazing family festival, caught Jose Gonzales and Tom Odell under one roof…. No regrets 😎
The customers know their property is being filmed so why on earth do they not tidy up a bit and put all their day to day living crap and stuff away and at least clear the area around where work needs to be done. Some of the places you go to look an absolute dive excluding the ones under refurb obviously.
Give it a rest you old woman🤣
Whoever has done the soldering on those joints needs to go back to college ...
Non fire rated downlights with room above... C2 as per Codebreakers
Only C2 if the ceiling forms a fire barrier. Unlikely in a standard 2-storey house.
No offence Cory but why is an electrician fault finding a water flow problem?
The original call was a suspected boiler fault.
@@artisanelectrics As a retired plumber/heating engineer I’m surprised that the first port of call for such a problem was an electrician rather than a plumber/heating engineer. After being self employed for just over 50years I’m pretty sure most of my customers would have contacted me before an electrician. I’m sure that if this job was at one of your customers then that is the reason for you getting the call. Love Cory’s sense of humour, (rumour has it that Pringles manufacturers have had to set up another shift to fulfill his appetite.)
You had a busy day, with no breaks and a camera man looming over you. All the jobs are live testing and your under pressure to complete the work, present a vlog and sell the latest product for Artisan. I'm not having a go at you Cory, as a fellow electrician we are at most risk of elecutracution due to complacency and the nature of the job.
I wonder how all these RUclips electricians would fair if an accident happened, HSE would no doubt scrutinise the channel content against the job RAMS, tool box talks and whomever is the lead electrician on site.
Very true - it’s so easy to become complacent. Thanks for sharing
Honeywell zone valves suck.
Aww brew up lad
Breaking the rules and regs tut tut
That quinetic box is so ugly! Hard to know what else you could do though.
Yeah at least it’s hidden in the utility room
Fake natty
请不要过多拍摄他的脸，他不是好莱坞电影明星！这是教学视频请多拍摄他做的主要工作和电器
Complete new valve is best especially if body is stiff and motor faulty, fotget all that stripping down nonsense sorry but heating engineer is best for this job👎
Embarrassing moment, I been using fluke tester for the last 2 years and never knew you could put a crock clip on the end of push button prob 🫢. Thanks Cory
You’re welcome!