Reacting To: TikTok's Glamorized DID Switches
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0:00 Intro
1:46 Switch on Camera 1
2:28 Multiplicity and Me Positive Trigger Example
4:24 Switch on Camera 2
5:35 Little on Camera
7:04 Self Diagnosis Debate
8:37 DID Misinformation
10:37 What Do You Think 
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How do you feel about the portrayal of dissociative identity disorder on TikTok?
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I think its overfictionalized on tiktok and can cause barriers in alternative states to not want healing or to sepurate themselves more. I also think alters educating is dangerous, because they may have different beleifs and feelings based on past truama's.
i feel like it s not about awareness anymore. (just fyi i dont have it so take it with a grain of salt) for the ppl that might not be faking/overdramatizing, i feel like it s kinda avoiding the healing process in of itself, and maybe shifts the focus away from healing as this is an illness, and more to show the condition. if u lose the condition, you might lose your audience. for those faking/overdramatizing it s also kinda avoiding their own reality and losing their sense of self if they put themselves into tiny boxes and look at themselves separated instead of a whole. so i think it might just hurt everyone doing this, until they re stable enough to do this, further into the healing journey.
I think it’s very alternative state focused to the point where it’s not a disorder anymore. It’s roleplaying. And one of the negative results of this is whenever someone who actually has DID speaks about the symptoms aside from the alternative states, many of which negatively impact day to day functioning, they’re dragged for “demonizing” the disorder. I’m allowed to talk about how this disorder makes it incredibly difficult to carry on. Because it’s not just about the alternative states. TikTok and the rabid fan-followings of some creators make me not want to publicly speak about my experience with the disorder because of how borderline obsessive they are with bringing down legitimate sufferers. Legitimate personal experience with DID is what is desperately needed to be shared to counteract what platforms like TikTok are doing to the disorder, and this isn’t limited to DID, which is incredibly frustrating and sad.
Well, it caused me to make a song about DID not being a game (@Dissociadid talking to a person with actual DID). For the person with DID, I watched a video called "What DID is really like" by @phosdotnet. My song's called "Did's not a game!".
It’s just…. So WEIRD that people do this. It blows my mind. It also blows my mind that there are people who buy their garbage.
I love your channel specifically because you dont automatically dismiss DID as some "made-up gen z tiktok disease" and actually provide scientific info on the topic.
If I never researched DID more after i found out about it at 16 I would have thought i had it. It was anxiety-induced psychosis.
the portrayal of DID on tiktok has done so much harm to the people who have it. radical validation has been so normalized, and while i disagree with fakeclaiming, i think some critical thinking is in order and people should be allowed to correct blatant misinformation about the disorder without being called an ableist fakeclaimer.
Great video, Michelle! Here’s my thoughts…TikTok makes DID look like a walk in the park when all I want to do is heal and be able to live my life without being in a constant state of hyper vigilance and not going upwards of days with lost time because I was not out. It’s a difficult disorder to live with, and TikTok makes it look like a game. It’s frustrating, and disappointing that we’ve gotten to this state.
I’ll put my two cents out there with switching. Switches for me depend on which alternative state is out and which part is switching in. When I’m out and, when I feel a switch coming and am with it enough still to notice how I’m feeling, I get really dizzy and tired. My doctor had me track my blood pressure to see if what I was experiencing were blood pressure drops related to my DID, and they were, which explained why I get so weak and dizzy when I’m switching. My therapist and partner, when watching me switch, have said that my eyes sometimes dilate and my hands get really cold and my fingers turn a bit purple. There’s observable changes when I start to switch because there are changes going on in the body that are measurable. Depending on the part and the reason for the switch, there can be a dissociative seizure, a flashback, or a migraine. It’s not just a blink and “I’m (insert name) now and I know exactly what’s happening.” I need recovery time when I switch because it’s exhausting and painful. Not to mention to slight panic of not knowing what was going on if I’ve switched back in after hours or even days.
TikTok has made it difficult to counteract all of the disinformation with accurate information because there is so much disinformation out there now. It’s like these individuals took bits and pieces of misinformation and ran with it, adjusting it so it fits their narratives, so now that’s the new “accurate info,”and only double down when someone tries to educate.
Thank you for sharing your perspective and experience. It's very frustrating when platforms like TikTok trivialize or misrepresent serious conditions. Thank you for sharing your experience of switching, your symptoms are unfortunately rarely discussed throughout the imitative DID world. Obviously not every person with DID will have these experiences, but I've heard from people who have genuine DID describe the same experience.
Thank you for bringing awareness to the real challenges of living with DID & take care,
I'm so glad i've never been on tiktok and never will be. i dont understand that generation where everybody seems to WANT to be sick and to be the victim. Its so damaging and I also just worry about what it does to their mental health as well.
People would always get made at me whenever I mentioned how dissociadid and anthony whatever his last name is, pretty much helped start the huge issue of people faking specifically did. And now it's even worse with how much tiktok has grown and how parents (not all but a lot) don't monitor their child and even more disabilities and mental health issues are being faked.
I still remember my senior year (2020 grad) watching it just burst in school before covid, especially the freshman and sophomores. To the point where I was effected severely with my teachers not following my iep because they thought I was faking my learning disabilities and mental health issues that effect my efficiency in classes. And now the harm is even worse...
Thank you for sharing your experience. I'm really sorry to hear that you weren't believed & accommodated appropriately. It's an example of how the trend of faking mental illness can cause real harm to those who genuinely need support.
Thank you for bringing this up, and I hope things have improved for you since then.
@michelle_mana oh things have improved immensely. Especially after finding out the reason I struggled so much was cuz I autistic. Apparently my fiance thought for 3 years that I hid that from him. Like he knew? And never said a thing. 😂😭 like sir? I didn't even know until bam diagnosis after doing tests with a nueropsych after a head injury (he tests anyone from 18-25 for adhd, autism, etc to figure out what therapies and what methods woukd work best depending on your lasting issues after a concussion) but I'm doing a ton better and so glad to be out of the hell they called my high school and away from the younger gen z kids.
With the brain damage thing, I actually know where that comes from. So, when they came up with the diagnosis of PTSD, they also tried to get the diagnosis of C-PTSD added into the DSM because they were seeing differences between the war veterans they studied, people who had a singular traumatic event resulting in ptsd, and people who had several severe repeated incidents. However, the idea for C-PTSD being added to the DSM was rejected, many people think because of big pharmas involvement in the DSM. C-PTSD is not highly marketable when it comes to treatment via medication. Now, here's where it relates back to being a brain injury. When the diagnosis was originally rejected, the doctors tried again with referring to it as a developmental disorder, which was also rejected. And then finally, a traumatic brain injury, which was also rejected. So basically it comes from the notion that C-PTSD is a traumatic brain injury, not DID. Which, really, you're right, it's not. They just wanted to get it in the DSM somehow so people could receive proper treatment. This is also why you can't actually be diagnosed with c-ptsd. Every official diagnosis of PTSD is usually listed as such. From what I understand, cptsd isn't in the istd either although I could be wrong on that. It's been a bit since I looked into this so I could be misremembering but yeah!
Thank you for sharing. I didn't know why there were challenges getting C-PTSD recognized in the DSM. The influence of is big pharma is definitely sad & concerning, but thank you for explaining.
CPTSD is in the ICD, just not the DSM yet
I'm sorry the fucking breast forms casually flicking out of the shirt killed me 😭😂
2:47 It's interesting to see how SMOOTHLY Multiplicity and Me switched due to the positive trigger. That goes directly against everything that fakedisordercringe teaches.
I'm almost 2 years into treatment for my disorder and it's still a struggle. I have to have reminders on my phone for nearly everything and I keep signs all over my house like "check the stove" and "dont forget to eat." I also have a dog who has learned when I dissociate and will lick my hands or face to help pull me out of it. She doesn't ever lick otherwise. I never see any of this from tiktok. It all seems like fun and games to them.
Thank you for sharing. I figured maybe some people don't want to share really difficult parts of the disorder because it can be distressing. But also, they're okay pretending it's funny & quirky that an alter cut bangs or something.
this people are really needs to stop, that was not ok
Never heard "alternative state" before. What's the lore on that term?
I believe the term 'alter' stands for 'alternative identity'. I guess I do it to clarify that alters are fractured & distinct states within one person, rather than multiple people within one brain.
Spot on Michelle.. we say headmate, but our docs use alter/alternative interchangably
@@michelle_mana >alters are fractured and distinct states within one person, rather than multiple people within one brain.
What do you base that claim on? Personally, I believe that we can't really know if they're "less than one" or "more than one," so it's best to take them at their word. Disclaimer: I'm not a scientist.
Conflict of interest: I'm the "host" of a non-traumagenic system (I'm not totally sure what kind of system we are, I just know that it's not due to trauma) and I would feel bad if science said "here's conclusive proof that your headmates aren't actually their own people, but rather just fractured parts of you"
@@MB-lz5ebwell I've pretty much integrated. How would that be possible if I weren't the same person?
Great video!! Very educational!😊
Glad you think so!
a joy to watch n listen to as per❤
Thank you!
Thank you for making this!
I love ur videos pls never stop making them ❤❤🥺🥺🥺
Thank you!!
The portrayal of DID on TikTok is so bad that I've had to actively stay off of TikTok, because I search for content to help myself thrive, but then the algorithm begins showing me the exploitative, ableist, misleading garbage that harms me, and I end up having to deal with the consequences of their actions IRL because of the way people perceive DID.
I'm really sorry to hear that TikTok's portrayal of DID has had a negative impact on you. I can imagine that It’s incredibly frustrating when you're looking for helpful content and instead find harmful or misleading information. I don't get information off of TikTok for that reason. I know there are many educated people with DID on TikTok, but they can be overshadowed by disinformation & misinformation. It's very sad that the way DID is often misrepresented can have serious real-life consequences for those who live with it. Hopefully one day TikTok wont be like this.
Thank you for sharing your experience.
@@michelle_mana yeah they're absolutely overshadowed, because it's the attention seekers that get the most traffic, you have to either know names or scroll incredibly far to find the real ones, and the real ones get bullied off the platform because they contradict the disinformation that bad actors are producing, and become suspiciously defensive, and then they turn into bullies while claiming to be a victim.
It's incredibly heartbreaking to watch this happening to people who just want to help others, like even their families get stalked and threatened over it, yet these abusive people are allowed to keep their platform, and aren't blocked from starting new accounts, so I'm equally disappointed in TikTok itself.
I personally love these type of videos, Michelle!
Thank you! I'm glad you like them! 🩷
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lol yeaah, some portrayals misrepresent it as quirky or entertaining, which unfortunately makes it appealing for others to be inspired to fake it
Psychologist here: that tiktoker who said that ASD is an intellectual disability is wrong. Also, brain damage is not interchangeble with intellectuall disability. ASD is a mental disability, not necessarily a intellectual disability.
As someone on the spectrum that was truly touching. I have some internalized self hatred towards my intelligence due to the way I was treated as a child and horrifically enough I’m far from the only one.
I got diagnosed with complex ptsd and DID at the age of 12, I've apparently had it since I was 7. I used to get heavy intrusive thoughts and split uncontrollably, making my behavior seem odd and unstable. Everyone in our 'system' has now learned to cooperate and help the body in their own way. Therapy has helped a bit, and certain resources on and offline have helped as well. I still get fakeclaimed to this, and it does suck a bit, and it's mostly due to the fact that I'm a minor. DID is usually diagnosed in your 20s, but I've gone through several tests and brainscans, and they can confirm I have it. We're able to function, but only certain headmates really help us function. 😅
Thank you for sharing your experience complex PTSD and DID, & having been diagnosed at such a young age. It’s great to hear that therapy and other resources have been beneficial.
It's unfortunate and unfair that you're still facing fake-claims because of your age. I understand that it can be more commonly diagnosed when you're older, but there are cases of it being diagnosed in teens due to circumstances & the specific person. I'm doing a story on it at the moment. Diagnosis at a young age can be challenging, but hopefully your experience and the confirmation from tests and brain scans can validate what you’re going through.
Stay strong,
@@michelle_mana Thank you so much 🩵
Great video! 💜
Thank you, I'm glad you think so!
I want to start off by saying that I am a diagnosed DID system
I 100% forbid my little alters from accessing social media in any form.. They may know the password to my phone, but they know not to unlock it or scroll through it without my partner/friends or therapist present (The acceptation being my oldest little who's about 14ish who only uses my phone for music for their sensory issues or to help them calm down).. they can play games, watch shows and movies, and listen to music with supervision too.. Little's, while having the knowledge of adults, process the world like a child would.. They may say big words, full sentences, things a child at their age may not know, but again, they are a child.. I never pass the toy section alone in a store if I feel like I'm dissociating for fear of them being taken advantage of.. Seeing people post their "Littles" on social media is kind of predatory in my eyes.. Very uncool
And self diagnosing.. I don't believe in self diagnosing at all.. there is a dramatic difference when saying "I think I have this disorder" vs. "I have this disorder".. If someone believes they have a disorder and do research to find coping mechanisms and other things to help them, that is perfectly valid!.. Finding resources to help yourself is incredibly important and is the first step to getting the proper treatment you need.. My therapist did the same thing, saying "I think you have autism" since she didn't have the power to diagnose me herself.. She helped me find the person I need to get tested and turns out I do have autism.. During that waiting time, I found resources and tools to help me understand why I thought the way I did and to see if they helped me, which they did.. I don't see that as self diagnosing.. I see that as "Trying to understand why you are the way you are", for lack of a better term
These are just my two cents.. X3
Thank you for sharing your experience. It’s good that you’ve put thought into how to navigate social media and protect your littles.
With self-diagnosis, I appreciate the distinction between exploring potential diagnoses to seek appropriate help and definitively claiming a diagnosis without professional confirmation.
Take care,
Absolutely. all of this!!!
System here. I absolutely agree that changing clothes ≠ a switch, you won't change clothes every time you switch. That's just impossible and highly impractical (we chmage clothes maybe 10% of the time when there's a switch). However, saying it increases dissociative barriers isn't necessarily true. It can, sure, but changing your clothes halfway through the day because you suddenly feel dysphoric or uncomfortable, is a common thing. people without DID do it too, they suddenly think its too warm, so they change shirts, or they feel uncomfortable with the fancy clothes they wore out to a meeting, or that what they're wearing is impractical, or whatever it is. Systems are allowed to change clothes throughout the day in response to a switch.
I also think it's a little hypocritical to say "changing clothes every time you switch increases dissociative barriers, but you mustn't let littles online!!" people can argue that treating littles like actual children, increases dissociative amnesia. some systems want to let littles online, some don't. Some systems want to get into more comfortable clothes if they switch, some don't. Both is okay. Let's focus on actually destigmatising the disorder, and educating people so they don't think that "omg I changed clothes and im in a different mood, I DEFINITELY have did". I'm not trying to be aggressive or anything, and I'm sorry if my tone sounds harsh at all
I appreciate you sharing, you're right. every system is unique, and what works for one might not work for another. I understand that the impact of changing clothes can vary depending on the individual and their specific experiences with DID. I appreciate the corrections, & thank you for educating me on this. I'll make more of an effort to spread information that is correct for every person living with DID in the future.
Hey quick question, why your comments on your shorts are off?
Hi,
I noticed that comments on shorts can be a different tone. It's probably because it's served to people who aren't subscribed to me. It seems similar to the tiktok culture of people just commenting something that's not nice & they continue scrolling.
Probably tmi, but on my birthday, I posted a short about anxiety. & I had people saying anxiety attacks aren't a symptom of anxiety disorders. It was kind of a bummer, so I just turned comments off.
On regular youtube, I notice that people are more likely to give constructive criticism than just leave rude comments.
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It's strange that it's hard to find online, but if I can find a good link I'll post it!
Thanks Michelle for another great video. Keep up the good content.
We recently lost a good friend bc of a comment we made 😢 we know you know, but thats not the point. The point is that it was a disrespectful comment, and wish we could take it back and make things right, but we cant , and this can be part of DID, hurting peole you care about and not relizing it until after the fact, but having to accept responsibility because is was infact a part of you that did it😢.
DID is very real, and not fun, and not how they potray it on socail media, and that is sad.
Also i never new the term "Alter" meant alternative states of consciousness. I never liked the term alter, but never knew the full term. Our system perfers the term parts.
Sorry if we are rambling.
But thanks again for another good video.
Thank you for the kind words and for sharing your experience.
I'm really sorry to hear about the struggles that come with relationships when you have DID. I can imagine it's difficult to take responsibility for your actions, even when they were said by other parts.
You're not rambling at all!
Thank you for watching and supporting my content. Please take care.
I would be very interested in your opinion to the latest "multiplicity and me" news. She claims that she is "healed" vom DID. I mean, how can you know at that age, that the symptoms are never going to come back? And is full integration really possible?How do you kow, that your state isn't only highly dissociatedb?
I probably wont talk about it unfortunately because I'm not a professional in the field, so I can't really say. From the basic education I have: The person can still have symptoms of PTSD after final fusion. If a trauma happens, it is possible to split again after final fusion.
I really appreciate that you make it very clear, if a topic should be discussed by professionals. But this "splitting again after trauma" thing is exactly what I meant. So u can't be 100% sure, that in the future symptoms are never coming back again. But a "final fusion" exist and is technically possible, right?
Thanks ♥️