Reacting To Made Up Disorders

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  • Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024

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  • @thomasomelie
    @thomasomelie 5 месяцев назад +29

    "you wish you had more sensory issues" whoever wrote this, believe me you don't

    • @83moonchild
      @83moonchild 5 месяцев назад

      I know, it's fking disgraceful. Imagine somebody saying they wish they were severely disabled or had a life altering physical disease? People would be so shocked and disgusted but for some reason when it comes to any type of disorder of the brain these complete idiots can be as disrespectful as they want all just for likes and watches and more attention.
      They make it so obvious that they've never known anybody with any of these disorders or illnesses because they'd understand the truth of living with them and not this fantasy they're living.

    • @Jana-ho9mu
      @Jana-ho9mu 5 месяцев назад +4

      It’s all fun and games unless you’re actually affected by it

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  5 месяцев назад +4

      Agree. I don't understand why you would WANT to feel the panic & distress that comes with it. Having sensory issues is nothing to envy. Thank you for taking the time to comment

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  5 месяцев назад +3

      @@Jana-ho9mu the only reason for wanting them that I can imagine is for attention?? If they experienced sensory issues, there's no way they would want more of something that heavily impacts their quality of life.

  • @MonochromeFragmenDID
    @MonochromeFragmenDID 5 месяцев назад +29

    Oh my god…what is this. What is the internet anymore. It comes across as “we’re tired of faking disorders because we’re tired of actual sufferers telling us why it’s harmful so let’s just make up a different disorder because who can tell us why it’s harmful if it’s not real?” It’s just…ugh. I would be curious to hear why someone who does this does it, like the thought process behind it. There’s always something it seems 😭

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  5 месяцев назад +1

      I can imagine some people justify faking disorders or making them up, similarly to a lot of addictions. It's disheartening when it can have harmful consequences for those who actually suffer from them.
      Thank you for sharing!

  • @Milo-hp9fw
    @Milo-hp9fw 2 месяца назад +11

    I used to think I was transautistic because I thought it meant that you're transgender and autistic, and both of those shape the world differently for you. I experience the world way differently than an allistic trans person, and I experience the world differently than a cis autistic person.
    And then I learned what transautistic really meant....

    • @binomialnomenclature1758
      @binomialnomenclature1758 2 дня назад

      Did you know that there's a link between being trans and being autistic?
      A significant percentage of trans people are autistic and vice versa
      It's to the point where some medical professionals recommend being tested for autism if you're trans

  • @83moonchild
    @83moonchild 5 месяцев назад +10

    Oh god, it began as a trend of ppl faking a range of conditions under the neurodivergent umbrella umbrella but always on the higher end of the scale so almost always having what woukd be medically described as severe outward symptoms eg. Tics, stutters, particular speech patterns or use of language and or style of communication such as sentence structure or selective mutism, obvious sensory difficulties or comfort seeking actions. These ppl never had the more common and highly experienced (the majority of neurodivergent people are placed somewhere between midway and less on the scale) therefore display less severe symptoms so for example, sensory difficulties, social difficulties and struggles to express themselves through conversation or tendencies to talk in a very 'to the point' way that might be interpreted as blunt, careless, ignorant and so on. A common trait is thought processes, an extremely common symptom displayed even in extremely mildly affected neurodivergent people is a very regimented thought process with answers, replies or opinions being extremely single sided, very 'black or white' thoughts, a struggle or inability to understand or possess a 'grey' area of thought, to debate in thought alone on a topic can be impossible as the processes involved to enable weighing up pros and cons for example would be a simple process (regardless of the level of intelligence of the individual) who would then simply pick a side usually based very much in logic over emotional input, this opinion would then be very difficult to change without some form of major adaptation being made to the original pros and cons first such as a new compelling piece of evidence or an alternative explanation being made,.the more based in proof, logic and ease of being able to take this information and label it right/wrong good/bad positive/negative, enjoys/dislikes etc. They may not display or be as aware of others emotions or observe facial expressions and social ques in varying degrees.
    None of these online fakers ever had the most commonly diagnosed degrees of their various and ever evolving lists of disorders.
    I find it so so ironic too that the majority of people who are genuinely diagnosed with these disorders at the higher end of the scale, as they all claim would find even the thought of making constant videos of themselves having to look into a camera, talk with the energy, emotion filled, ease of language and structure these ppl show and basically allow the world into their thoughts, opinions etc which would practically feel like an invasion of privacy to many of the people who genuinely do experience what these people fake as an absolute nightmare in every aspect!
    Then we evolved from the neurodivergent fad into the mental illness fad and again it has only been the fun, attention grabbing illnesses that are faked. Nobody fakes clinical depression because its boring, the bipolar frauds only film the manic episodes, d.i.d. brings endless possibilities of characters, dress up, make up, and when ppl start to get bored they can just create new alters.
    Both groups of fakers are disgraceful, immature, attention whores and extremely offensive to genuinely diagnosed people and their friends & families.
    But, i am actually genuinely baffled at this new fad of just inventing mental illnesses. I mean wtf why?! They already fake real ones and embellish the hell out of them adding more illnesses for more quirks so whats the point in this, why create your own tailor made illness when youre already mixing and matching your real illnesses to create your own extra special eben more attention grabbing illnesses than ever! Does nobody ever say how much time and testing , observation and studying it takes just for the initial exploration of an illness in a clinical setting it takes? Has anybody asked where they received their PhD from and how many peer reviews are available on their hypothesised new exciting illness there are and if its generally accepted in the field or is it just real.because they said so because of attention?!
    All of this idiocy pisses me right off. I just cant even imagine what the next pile of crap.fad is gonna be with these ppl.

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  5 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks again for the support, it means a lot.
      I feel your frustration and disbelief at what's been going on. It's mind-boggling how some people would go to such lengths to fake or exaggerate conditions, especially those that impact so many individuals on a daily basis. And you're right, the fact that fakers are cherry-picking the "fun" or attention-grabbing aspects of certain illnesses. I can't imagine how insulting it is to people with that mental illness. It's like a mixture of roleplaying & a game for attention. It undermines the seriousness of mental illness and the research and expertise that goes into understanding and diagnosing them. Possibly calling out this kind of behavior can push for a more responsible online community.
      Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.

  • @yogsothoth8389
    @yogsothoth8389 5 месяцев назад +11

    This makes me think of the way people were making up genders on tumblr in 2016.

    • @vanillauwu1844
      @vanillauwu1844 4 дня назад

      You mean xenogenders? Those are genders that neurotypical people use because they have a hard time expressing their personality and finding out their gender and sexuality

  • @cynanthropewoman3608
    @cynanthropewoman3608 5 месяцев назад +4

    I used to make up things like "X syndrome/disorder" as a child for a bit of a laugh and to describe issues in my life. However, I never took it seriously and this was long before the days of social media.

  • @Glorplagon
    @Glorplagon 2 месяца назад +4

    So you're telling me that there's people who wish they had sensory issues? I don't even know what to say. There was a time in my life that I couldn't even touch a towel. Why would anyone want that?

  • @sarahgibbons9737
    @sarahgibbons9737 5 месяцев назад +8

    I had an argument with someone on fb today. A self diagnosed autistic telling me, a diagnosed autistic, that the DSM criteria needs to be changed. How people who dont have characteristics as children are just as autistic. How we need to get rid of the criteria that says its present in childhood 🙈 .... Dear its a neurodevelopmental disorder. Clues in the name 🫣 i just cant any more. i really cant 🙈

    • @cynanthropewoman3608
      @cynanthropewoman3608 5 месяцев назад +4

      I got told by one of those people that I must be able to connect with autistic people because I "I identify as autistic" when I was saying that I often do not feel connection even with other people who have autism. It is not an identity, it is a label for the thing that has ruined my life! If one of those transautistic people want my autism, I would love to give it to them because I don't want it one bit!
      Self-diagnosis is stupid and you can have traits of things without having the actual problem. There is such a thing as differential diagnosis which only a professional can do and there are so many things that can overlap with and seem similar to other disorders.

    • @sarahgibbons9737
      @sarahgibbons9737 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@cynanthropewoman3608 funnily enough I also struggle to connect to people with autism. I thought I'd find community after diagnosis but I feel like for every 1 person I can get along with there are 10 I can't.
      Whilst I can see some positives to being Autistic (such as my love of learning - but not academically) and my visual attention to detail, and my "special interests" autism is most definitely a disability for me and I think people who say autism isn't a disability need to stop speaking loudly and claiming to speak for others. It's in the DSM if you aren't disabled by it you aren't autistic.
      People say "society disables me" nope when I go out and I'm overstimulated by simply the weather and nothing else it's not society it's my sensation reaction to the literal weather environment. People who are Transautistic would never understand that

    • @sarahgibbons9737
      @sarahgibbons9737 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@cynanthropewoman3608 I absolutely agree that self diagnosis is impossible I'm actually thinking of creating a whole RUclips channel regarding this topic making counter arguments to all the uwu self diagnosis is valid crowd but I don't know if I'm up to it. I found Michelle's channel through dissociadid content coz I have d.i.d too. I've seen what's happened to the d.i.d community and see the same things in autism. The current "versions" of autism and d.i.d are so far from the reality 🙈

    • @cynanthropewoman3608
      @cynanthropewoman3608 5 месяцев назад

      @@sarahgibbons9737 I can't connect to people easily, autistic or not. I was late diagnosed and one of the things that hurts the most is that the community that people with autism are supposed to experience was not to be for me. I finally found out as an adult the reason for my alienation and unfortunately, it is one that can never be repaired. The things that you list as positives can also occur in people without autism, same as the skill set I have. Not that I am saying that you shouldn't attribute your positives to being autistic, if that makes sense for you and helps, then go for it. =)
      Those who only want to blame society I think are either a) in denial about being disabled and cannot face up to it or b) just want a scapegoat. Society doesn't help sometimes but it is mostly the condition itself that is disabling me. I do think that there are a small minority for whom having autism is a good thing but they are EXTREMELY lucky and have likely been able to somehow end up with a life that fits with their disability. For me, autism will always be a bad thing and that doesn't mean that I think everyone should feel the same as me. It has stopped and will continue to stop me from achieving things I'd dearly love to achieve. I am level 1 and pretty independent but like you, I have sensory issues (though milder than yours) and the inability to connect to others is a fate I would not wish onto my worst enemy.
      Have you ever noticed how people who are self-diagnosed always get useful skills as their "special interest?" I have no issue with people who suspect that they have a certain illness and who are then going to get a professional opinion, as I did the same thing. I am disappointed that I have autism and not something that can go away with therapy. I just don't understand why people want to have a disorder as their identity and I think it's sad that they can't find achievements to be proud of instead of making everything that they are about a pathological label.
      The complete hypocrisy of these people is astounding too. They claim to want to support "autism rights" yet if anyone dares to say anything bad about autism or the pain that it has brought them, they attack. Neurodiversity as a concept is sound, we all have different brains. As a movement, I feel that it is extremist, cultish and damaging. All of this "autism pride" rubbish actually makes me more ashamed of admitting that I have autism. I have also been accused of hating myself and been told to unalive myself because if I don't want autism that "makes me who I am" then I must want to be dead. I think that is complete and utter nonsense!
      Another big problem I have with these people speaking over those of us who are disabled is that they reduce the chance for those of us who want treatments to be denied them. They love to act like there is a conspiracy to look for cures to remove their autism against their will when you can refuse treatment even if it is fatal for other conditions. Why would autism be deemed to be so special that the government wish to take it away when you can legit choose to die from illnesses if you are able to consent? It's like they want to be oppressed so badly and I'm sick of it! Not only that but these people can type online and communicate easily, not all severely affected people with autism have that privilege and the way they attack parents who admit to struggling with their autistic kid is absolutely disgusting.

    • @cynanthropewoman3608
      @cynanthropewoman3608 5 месяцев назад

      @@sarahgibbons9737 It is normal and natural for people to want to form community over shared traits. I have no issues with that at all and if these self-diagnosed people wanted to bond over traits as long as they were NOT saying that they had actual conditions, then I'd not bat an eyelid. Human brains are weird and you could flick through the DSM/ICD and find traits that you have subclinical in a whole range of disorders. If you are not experiencing distress then you don't have a disorder and should be ashamed of yourself if you are saying that you do.
      I know that there are people who emphasise that they do NOT have any DID but feel that they have a "plural" or "healthy multiplicity" experience. If you are not diagnosable with an actual disorder and want to discuss subclinical quirks that are not damaging, please stick to those sorts of terms and don't go upsetting/speaking over those who are disordered and disabled! In addition, please leave communities alone that explicitly say that they don't welcome your type of experience - it's not like there is a shortage of forums and Discord servers. Gatekeeping isn't always a negative thing and can be a beneficial thing.
      I think that self-diagnosed autistic people should find their own terms and communities if they want to find people with similar traits. Broad autistic phenotype is a thing so perhaps that should be used by these people who feel that they have traits but have no impairment. Some may just be misguided kids looking for a sense of community and if they do grow out of it, they are not spreading misinformation/harming others if what they are claiming to bond over isn't a disorder in the first place.
      I'm sorry that you have to put up with having two of your disorders faked so often. I do think that more people should speak up against self-diagnosis and faking a disorder. I don't blame you if you don't feel up to it, there's no way I'd go on camera on You Tube either! I would like to hear the voices of more people who admit that autism is a disability, as well as those who are critical of the neurodiversity movement. Good luck if you do set up your own channel, you are braver than I am, that's for sure. =)

  • @treblebat
    @treblebat 3 дня назад

    7:11 SO FUN FACT when i got rediagnosed bc of the state requirments the psychologist legit pulled out a "pocket dsm-5" and went through the asd diagnosis like a checklist.
    According to him i don't have asd bc i shook his hand and looked him in the eye.

  • @WellThinkOfATitle
    @WellThinkOfATitle 2 месяца назад +2

    As someone who was diagnosed with autism several years ago (I say "was diagnosed with autism" and not "has autism" because as i learn more and more about it i'm getting extremely suspicious that i absolutely do not have it and that they somehow managed to diagnose me with the wrong thing) it (the diagnosis, people being told i had autism by my parents and school) genuinely made my life so much worse how the hell would anyone WANT to have autism

  • @83moonchild
    @83moonchild 5 месяцев назад +3

    Great vid again, really interesting i had no idea this was now a thing too. I can't imagine what these ppl are going to do next i mean if theyre now making up their own mental illnesses because they need even more attention, what could possibly be the next step?!
    I know a while back you briefly covered 'quiet bpd' i found this extremely useful as id had a bod diagnosis but felt my symptoms didnt quite fit, after seeing your video i was able to find out a little bit more about it and my Dr then explained after all of the years ive been diagnosed that this is what i have but where i live they dont generally have a specific term for it only internalised.
    If anybody else would be interested (maybe poll it??) and of course if it is something you'd want to re-cover only more of a deep dive kinda thing, it would be great to see as it's not really known about as much as it should be plus from what ive found online that isnt made by fakers i found your video even though it was made as a basic explanation,.to be the most interesting and informative.
    I know im being cheeky to ask especially as youve covered it and your content is always varied and original but i can still try 😉
    Thank you again for more great quality content! ❤

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  5 месяцев назад

      Hey, thanks for the kind words & support!
      It's crazy to think about what might come next, especially with the way things evolve online. I'm really glad the quiet bpd video was helpful on your journey!! I'm not a professional, but I can see how disorder symptoms including bpd can vary so much from person to person. I can for sure make another video about it!
      Thanks again for your support and for sharing your thoughts! ❤

  • @TheLadyEx
    @TheLadyEx Месяц назад +6

    I'll be real that trans-autistic thing just feels like people experiencing the symptoms of 'high-functioning' autism but are in denial about it.

  • @insertnamewithmaybepunhere8235
    @insertnamewithmaybepunhere8235 4 дня назад +1

    With the last one and the whole "making yourself worse mentally" thats actually an unhealthy coping skill coming from a desire for control. If someone for example feels terrible the entire time and suddenly things are going well, they might purposely go back to a bad state, because its their normal, its their control, its predicable. If things are suddenly going well it must mean it will go horrible soon, better not get too used to things going well
    Source: i (used to) do this and my therapist told me this

    • @livb5437
      @livb5437 2 дня назад +1

      Was going to say, this one is something I've experienced as a person with diagnosed BPD and MDD. Like, someone faking a mental illness, or making up an entirely fictional one, probably wants to seem worse than they are for validation reasons, yes, but a pervasive desire to get worse is definitely a real thing in actual mental illnesses. It's like that one quote, 'There's a certain clinical satisfaction in seeing just how bad things can get'.

  • @blynn8837
    @blynn8837 5 месяцев назад +2

    I know some Dr/therapist/licensed counselors who have said you can not be diagnosed with BPD if you are already diagnosed with DID. So I'm assuming some also say it the other way around. I'm not saying they are right. Just wondering if this is where that one particular combined thing came from. I ❤ your videos!

    • @sarahgibbons9737
      @sarahgibbons9737 5 месяцев назад +1

      That's interesting. My theory is everyone who is DID could also be diagnosed with Autism or BPD. I've never met a DID person who doesn't fit into either category. I'm diagnosed with all 3, but bpd was a mistake. In my case due to my autism I mirror people and during the time I was diagnosed I was spending a lot of time with someone who has b.p.d. plus generally the things that got me diagnosed (arguing with the psychiatrist and having meltdowns was actually easily explained by autism) I got the bpd diagnosis first. Every psychiatrist I've seen since (I think 5 of them) has disagreed. Unfortunately the Dr who diagnosed me with bpd was known as a misogynist who diagnosed anyone who wouldn't bow down to him as b.p.d. (this was over 20 years ago to be fair)

    • @Diffilicious_Rex
      @Diffilicious_Rex Месяц назад

      In my experience, I was given the diagnosis of BPD, and given treatment for over 10yrs for that (and queried schizophrenia later) before my psychologist began noticing signs and querying a greater dissociative disorder.
      It can take an average of 7yrs for a correct diagnosis of DID, and then years and years of therapy to be able to have a decent quality of life.
      Just my 2 cents... I'm sure others will have different experiences/opinions.

  • @Underworldloveshades
    @Underworldloveshades 10 дней назад

    Trust me, an autistic person, you do NOT want sensory issues

  • @chiaralucia2411
    @chiaralucia2411 3 дня назад

    Dude, im autistic, diagnosed at 15, but said i was also very smart so it is very very "light" i guess and ever since finding out about fakers ive been wondering if im subconsciously faking, i mean most people (not doctors) say that i couldnt possibly be autistic but idk, it psichs me out. I feel like an impostor, what if im taking up space of people who really have it?

  • @lizh4244
    @lizh4244 5 месяцев назад +1

    oh my god

  • @evamarie2247
    @evamarie2247 5 месяцев назад +1

    Well done video!

  • @moonpizzalol
    @moonpizzalol 2 месяца назад

    no need all of these covered