Help: How Do I Handle Friend Who Fakes Disorders?

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  • @michelle_mana
    @michelle_mana  2 месяца назад +5

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    • @BigtimeAndo
      @BigtimeAndo 2 месяца назад

      able to read people

    • @runaway_convoy
      @runaway_convoy 2 месяца назад +1

      wish i could whistle better. i can whistle but ive always wanted to do that super loud whistle that like shuts a room up

    • @ell-dawg.8646
      @ell-dawg.8646 2 месяца назад +2

      I wish I could hide my accent to fit in.

    • @CensorshipIsOpression
      @CensorshipIsOpression 2 месяца назад

      I wish that I could've gotten my piloting license but I am too disabled to take my lessons

    • @DarkBlossomsinc
      @DarkBlossomsinc 2 месяца назад

      Wish I could draw/paint. Art is fascinating! ❤️

  • @kirenarts7518
    @kirenarts7518 2 месяца назад +51

    As a person who has been diagnosed with DID for about three years now, and guest speaks at college level classes regarding it, fakers are confusing. They definitely have something else going on such as a different disorder or not gaining enough attention where they should but since many of them are children, they do not understand the damage they are causing to different communities. I always make sure to mention this in our guest speaking due to the fact that fakers would not fake if they had pristine mental health. It's complicated, and definitely a touchy topic as many of those children, especially related to DID, don't understand the extremely difficult childhood that comes with it. TLDR we need change from these people but it's very hard to achieve that.

    • @izzy6455
      @izzy6455 Месяц назад +3

      Absolutely! Children and teens have too little information and experience to know the impact.

  • @ChronicallyAri
    @ChronicallyAri 2 месяца назад +15

    As someone who has diagnosed C-PTSD/PTSD, GAD, & MDD, and getting screened for ADHD because of how much it has ruined my life (I can't focus, can't hold a job, can't read social cues, was gifted and talented and now burnt out.) I hate when people fake it. I have struggled with an ED that nearly killed me, self destructive habits to the point the school had to get a board meeting. And even with a 504 Plan; I still had to go to a PHP program.
    Every waking moment for me was a nightmare and I dealt with SI, attempts, and SH for so long so no- I don't expect everyone to experience it how I did but the TRAUMA of going undiagnosed, the trauma of living with it, etc.
    I now have several chronic illnesses and my mental health has taken a backseat. I am finally going to therapy again after many months but.. why would anyone want this?

  • @CensorshipIsOpression
    @CensorshipIsOpression 2 месяца назад +14

    The best thing you can do is to put down boundaries and to go no contact if nothing changes or they don't start seeing a therapist because of all the excuses we always hear from fakers following the same script.
    If they at ANY point try call you an ableist for expecting the bare minimum in a friendship, such as honesty and respect, then it's time to abandon ship.
    Enabling the behavior is not a good idea, and I would report the behavior if you are going to school with them, so that adults can get ahold of their parents, because often their parents actually have no clue that it is happening because they live a secret life and don't mix friend groups for that reason.
    As much as it sucks to lose a friend, it's better for you in the long run to not surround yourself with toxic people who will whittle you down to nothing.

  • @_koraki
    @_koraki Месяц назад +12

    As a person with diagnosed borderline, why? It’s such a heavily stigmatized disorder that hurts so bad and makes it so hard to socialize and bond. Why would you “opt in” on that stigma?

    • @largesquids
      @largesquids Месяц назад

      Also diagnosed with BPD and agree. When I initially told my partner he was a little scared of me due to the stigma.

    • @_koraki
      @_koraki Месяц назад +1

      @@largesquids exactly. I don’t know about you but im fucking sick of being treated like im inherently evil or abusive

    • @maschinka_
      @maschinka_ 7 дней назад

      As someone who has had very wonderful friends with bpd and also some really bad experiences as well… I would almost go as far as to say the stigma comes more from people excusing their own terrible behavior with claiming it’s just their bpd than actual behavioral patterns inherently connected to bpd

  • @jakdekayen
    @jakdekayen Месяц назад +7

    I tried calling a friend out, for pretending by feeding them some bullcrap about symptoms I was experiencing about my diagnosed depression - she was pretending, and mimicking me and it ended very badly. I learned how to cut people out of my life thanks to her. My mom was dieing and i was stuck in an abusive home under my dads thumb and suddenly they were also dealing with abuse etc
    It was exhausting and I was so happy when I broke away from her
    She used her "depression" to excuse treating me like crap

  • @peytonkirby5946
    @peytonkirby5946 Месяц назад +5

    Been diagnosed with tourettes since I was 12, as well as OCD.
    There’s already such stigmas on both of these disorders and people trying to make them cool or whatever are only further stigmatizing them.

  • @biohazardously
    @biohazardously 2 месяца назад +32

    we have alters who get very defensive, very often. we decided a long time ago (with help from a therapist) that it doesnt matter who was fronting when one alter said something bad, we are all responsible and thus whoever is fronting is required to apologize. at the end of the day, we are not actually separate people, we are parts of one singular person, and we need to act like it. that includes takinh responsibility when we fuck up!

    • @jerichonikolai
      @jerichonikolai 2 месяца назад +3

      See, this seems fair. While yes, that one alter didn't say it, the *body* has it come out of their mouth. I'm glad you have a healthy way of handling this issue.

  • @kyleeconrad
    @kyleeconrad Месяц назад +4

    BPD does not make you feel pain at will. My step son was diagnosed with this at 17 (highly unorthodox at that age) and ADHD, a diabolical combo. He would swing from one emotional extreme to the other. For him there was no middle ground or gray area. Everything was either black or white and he was extremely impulsive especially when it came to things like using drugs and commiting crimes. He was given an ODD diagnosis when he was around 6 or 7 years old and he struggled in school. He was suspended for fighting many times. He lacked forward thinking and he had trouble with attachment and often manipulated his family and friends to escape emotional consequences. He would seek dangerous situations and people and he was arrested several times. Medication was only ever slightly helpful usually because it made him so lethargic or hyper focused on something pointless like reorganizing a shelf for hours. Thankfully he has learned to overcome a lot now at age 25, he still has a long way to go, but I'm incredibly proud of him and I see hope for him when I didn't before.

  • @evamarie2247
    @evamarie2247 2 месяца назад +9

    I say simply this, they want it that bad, they can have - the flashbacks, triggers, pcos, fibro, panic attacks, d-ibs, amnesia, acne, degenerative disease and the wonderful nose bleeds that follow from trying to view memories! Oh wait thats right, they dont want the acual pain, hypertension, fluctuation of body temp, high blood pressure, er visits and unexplained test results or assessments. Yeah its so so much fun! I hope they can read too🙄..

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  2 месяца назад +3

      You're right, there's so many overlooked aspect of dealing with chronic conditions and trauma on fake disorder media. The physical and emotional toll is not not something anyone would willingly choose.
      Thank you for sharing your experience

    • @BigtimeAndo
      @BigtimeAndo 2 месяца назад +1

      maybe they trying to force it to happen

    • @plursocks
      @plursocks 2 месяца назад +1

      Right? Go ahead, fakers. Take my vestibular migraines! I don't want them!

  • @ayyyy_lmao
    @ayyyy_lmao 2 месяца назад +4

    because of people like this I had been accused of faking my mental health issues and it wasn't until my young adulthood that it (the consensus) became more firm in what is going on, which could have contributed to the fact I became treatment resistant because I kept falling through the cracks.

    • @deanpope2055
      @deanpope2055 Месяц назад +1

      I think this is something we also need to be considering, like is it really your place to tell somebody they’re “faking”? Like it could be an earnest belief of theirs and in that case they need another kind of help but making them feel like they’re intentionally making shit up for attention is a good way to make sure they never get that help

  • @kyradreamer4769
    @kyradreamer4769 Месяц назад +2

    I hate how hard it is to have this conversation without it devolving into gatekeeping. Dont get me wrong, faking something or misdiagnosing yourself with something is definitely an issue, but there's also a lot of people who really are using the information to the best of their abilities and it can be very hard to differentiate the two. There's a long history of people having to fight to get these diagnoses and being disregarded by professionals for reasons that aren't actually meaningful, so even in cases where someone technically has the resources to see a doctor or psychologist, having them say "oh, you don't have xyz" doesn't always mean you don't have it, but it's very rare that I find people who don't view this situation as a dichotomy of either it's okay or it's not okay. It's a complex issue that disproportionately stems from our innefective medical system and lack of social resources.

  • @UrsulaDaSeaWishh
    @UrsulaDaSeaWishh Месяц назад +3

    FWIW not *all* people with schizophrenia have hallucinations-most do, about 80%, but some milder forms of schizophrenia can present as delusions and paranoia without visual/auditory hallucinations.

  • @TotallyElleWoods
    @TotallyElleWoods Месяц назад +1

    I have pretty bad ADHD and i, unfortunately, understand why people fake it. The portrayal of ADHD online is “haha im so quirky i forget things” or “i’m so dumb i procrastinate”. it very much feeds into the “i’m so quirky” mentality. Though it, in reality, affects me every day and is not quirky or fun to have at all.

  • @poketronex
    @poketronex Месяц назад +4

    Don't really agree that systems dating fellow systems is to fit in. For a lot of them, it's because they share experiences, feel less like they have to hide or mask, have less to explain. It's great when your partner just "gets it". That's why it's common for adult systems to date other systems.
    You wouldn't say t4t people are doing it to fit in.

    • @poketronex
      @poketronex Месяц назад +3

      @@blazingstar9638 trans for trans! trans people who want to primarily or exclusively date other trans people (for the same or similar reasons as listed above~)

  • @skyepilot4074
    @skyepilot4074 2 месяца назад +4

    This is a really interesting video. I haven't met any people I suspect of faking irl but some online, I don't say anything in case I'm wrong but I find their actions a bit odd but who am I to know or judge. But you make great points and how instead of confronting just changing the topic. I'm interested to see what other videos you have.

    • @jerichonikolai
      @jerichonikolai 2 месяца назад

      Irl it seems like faking isn't an issue outside of middle and high-school. I've never seen someone fake outside of a school setting and the reason why they do it is usually bc theyre in social turmoil and need a reason for why they aren't accepted by people who generally suck.
      Even in these 2 cases I've seen in my 4 different middle and high schools.... it doesn't last very long.

  • @jennifern1453
    @jennifern1453 Месяц назад

    people like this make me worry if my anxiety is fake then I realize how much I hate having public panic attacks

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  Месяц назад

      This is relatable. I've been in crisis in public situations & others will start laughing for some reason, maybe because they think it's attention seeking. Many people don't understand things like generalized anxiety disorder or panic disorder, because everyone has a little anxiety so they don't understand how others can be so overwhelmed by it.
      At the end of the day, don't let the actions of others make you doubt the reality of your own challenges. Stay strong and take care of yourself!

  • @lazyrainysoul
    @lazyrainysoul Месяц назад +4

    I think my friend is faking depression. Every time she introduces herself, she brings up her depression. I have no clue if these are just mood swings, but she sometimes acts really rude to me and my other friends. Also she's a fujoshi. A massive one. She ships me and my best mate together. It makes me and him feel really uncomfortable and we've tried talking her out of it, but she tells us to not take it seriously. Depression faker or not, I need help to get her off me.

    • @jakdekayen
      @jakdekayen Месяц назад +2

      Some friends come into our lives to teach us lessons
      Some friends are there to help us
      Some friends only last a summer
      Some a lifetime
      Sometimes we have to walk away from friends regardless of their hardships, because we cannot help them and it'd be better for everyone
      Figure out which friend she really is
      And act accordingly

    • @itz_me13015
      @itz_me13015 Месяц назад +1

      First of all, don’t be scared to bring up this situation to your friends. Let them know how you feel, in a respective manmer and be willing to disagree, however do still stand your ground.
      Then, (if the first step works) have a respectful and calm discussion with your friends and this friend who is faking depression (i’ll call her Be). Be’s reaction will tell you everything you need to know.
      1) Defensive - Faking it, and has dug herself too deep a grave to let it go.
      2) Un-responsive until a certain point - Faking it and doesn’t have an exscuse/proof for how so Be is sitting there either silently seething or thinking up a plan.
      3) Calm and collected, eager to get rid of doubts - Either not faking it or a manipulative liar. You will most likely be able to tell which one it is straight away.
      If you get one of the first two responses you will most likely get into an arguement of sorts and mean words will definitely be thrown around. Remember to keep your wits about you, and never go too far with any insults.
      99.99% of the time if this happens, unfortunately, the person (in this case Be) will not give up their ground and the arguement will end in either a split friendship or you begging her to come back to you and apologizing. I reccomend leaving the friendship with clear explanation as to why.
      However if you get the third option or the 0.001% scenario happens, everything will be smooth sailing and you can work it out.
      As for the fujoshi thing, I don’t really understand what that means. Would you mind explaining?

    • @Project_KN1GHT
      @Project_KN1GHT Месяц назад +1

      As soon as you said she was making you uncomfortable, that gives you a reason to leave. Her mental health (faking depression or no) is not your responsibility to manage. You’re not her parent, or her doctor/therapist, and you have to prioritize *your* mental health. If you try end the friendship and she starts telling you that you can’t leave or she’ll hurt herself or anything like that, then find someone else who can get her help/monitor her (maybe parents or an adult if you can, but depending on her home situation that might not be helpful) and then leave. If (and this is a big if) she chooses to follow through on her threats, that is HER ACTIONS that SHE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, not you. I’ve stayed in too many toxic friendships out of fear for them, and it is always worse in the long run. Best of luck dealing with her!

  • @ambere5422
    @ambere5422 2 месяца назад +3

    It extends to physical health conditions too. EDS and POTS for example. Very frustrating for those diagnosed long before the spread of misinformation and "fingers down if you do xyz, if yoy get more than 5 you have..." videos

    • @CensorshipIsOpression
      @CensorshipIsOpression 2 месяца назад +2

      I don't even understand why people would want EDS, I'm experiencing more of the bad, long term damage than the "fun" bendy part that makes it so that I can't open things without help.
      Ah yes, so attractive and fun. Ugh.

    • @jerichonikolai
      @jerichonikolai 2 месяца назад +1

      My rheumatologist suspects I have EDS and I really don't want it bc that means it's incurable and that my hyperextension isn't the normal kind 😢.
      People who fake physical disabilities angers me more just bc they usually involve physical pain and since I have chronic pain I wish I didn't have this pain and be labeled as lazy

    • @FrostedGalaxies
      @FrostedGalaxies Месяц назад

      My rheumatologist told me that he wasn't going to give me the formal diagnosis of hEDS, despite him agreeing I have it, unless I really thought it was useful as he said that because it's "trendy" people wouldn't take me seriously.

  • @yureiNekoX
    @yureiNekoX Месяц назад

    i'm so terrified that i am one of these people.
    currently getting a professional evaluation for a dissociative disorder and i have to get re-diagnosed with CPTSD and my other stuff because i was diagnosed temporarily as a kid.
    but the doubt is always there. i'm always so afraid that i might be faking it, and i'm not sure who it would be for or what the purpose would be. i'm just terrified that i'm doing it.

  • @fatuusdottore
    @fatuusdottore Месяц назад +1

    I'd end the friendship. I tried talking to them and they cancelled me. Granted, we weren't friends, but friends of one mutual friend. Shitty people tbh.

  • @largesquids
    @largesquids Месяц назад

    i was genuinely diagnosed with c-ptsd and bpd when i was about 19 or 20. My one friend was obviously faking DID, never had it before in their life until just one random day they just told me. Lol. Yeah I dropped them.

  • @moraeza
    @moraeza Месяц назад

    I know people who never talked about having any sort of illness/disability for years, suddenly sending me essays and rants after online videos about autism. Even looking into questions and things asked in testing for autism, making it hard for me to see the line between who the person is at this point and what is from other’s experiences online. Common sense tells me if im getting a diagnosis for a disability why am I going to look into how to answer questions?

    • @HigoIndico
      @HigoIndico Месяц назад

      Autistics like to research everything ang make sure the information given is valid. The questions that are asked are not specific enough to understand, so you got to research into it, to understand what they mean with the questions, since the questioners are made by allistics and they don't have the ability to ask things the right way.

  • @AL_3219
    @AL_3219 Месяц назад +1

    I’m actually not sure but I think I might have tics? I don’t mean to sound stupid but I randomly have weird noises like squeaking or jaw movements or facial expressions or weird squealing that I can’t control at all.and it’s super weird. I know I’m not a doctor and I haven’t shared my theories with anyone else but I sometimes do these things around other people and I have been researching about it but I don’t want to share it with anyone because they r probably going to say that I’m faking.

    • @Project_KN1GHT
      @Project_KN1GHT Месяц назад +2

      Are you able to seek a medical diagnosis? It could be tics, or it could be stimming, or it could be adhd related (I have adhd and have a tendency to do stuff like that). If you have access to a medical professional, that’s the best route. Everyone tells you not to google symptoms when your physically sick, and imo the same goes for mental illness because they will often make you feel like you have the most extreme disorders. If you aren’t able to get medical help, and it is a major problem, maybe do some research as to what tic disorders look like, what it can be a symptom of, and find REPUTABLE sources online and take notes on things you can do to treat or manage it that don’t require a diagnosis. Also, the urgency depends on how severe your symptoms are and how much it is affecting your ability to function. If it’s just an occasional thing and not super disruptive in school/work/life, you can probably wait longer until you’re able to see a doctor to figure out what’s going on. If you do it in front of someone (a friend, teacher, coworker, or family, etc) and they ask you, tell them “well, I have been having these symptoms, but I don’t have the ability to get a diagnosis right now, so I’m not really sure.” A lot of times someone definitively saying “I have [insert disorder here]” without a professional diagnosis is a little questionable. Instead, phrase it like “I have some symptoms that line up with this, but I’m not sure,” kind of like you did in your comment. TLDR: don’t make any definitive conclusions without a doctor, but if it is disrupting your life and you HAVE to do something, try to explore reputable sources for healthy coping mechanisms you can use, etc.

    • @AL_3219
      @AL_3219 Месяц назад +2

      @@Project_KN1GHT I don’t think I am, my family has tried but we aren’t in the best financial situation and I’m scared that it will cost a lot of money for a diagnosis.

    • @Project_KN1GHT
      @Project_KN1GHT Месяц назад +1

      @@AL_3219 that makes sense. A diagnosis and treatment can definitely be hard to get financially speaking. If you’re really motivated, you might be able to find resources online for low-cost/free/covered doctors or therapists in your area. The healthcare system sucks right now. Hopefully your financial situation improves, I’m glad your family is trying at least. That’s a big help. I wish I had more advice for you, but I do wish you the best of luck!

  • @jolea6494
    @jolea6494 Месяц назад

    You should talk about the faking ticks/tourettes 2021 trend

    • @jolea6494
      @jolea6494 Месяц назад

      Just got to the part of the video where you mentioned it 😂 whoops

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  Месяц назад +1

      It's okay! I could make a whole video about it, but it's difficult because I can't say much other than when videos look so overtly fake. Maybe I can get in touch with someone who experiences real tics/tourettes & make a video when I have more education about it.

  • @Matty272
    @Matty272 Месяц назад

    How do you know any of them are faking it though?

    • @michelle_mana
      @michelle_mana  Месяц назад

      I don't really. I just take every story for what they're saying, but there's two sides to every story. so there can't really be a confirmation, unfortunately. I think I could start doing a disclaimer at the beginning of my videos saying this

  • @FairiesStarlightSystem
    @FairiesStarlightSystem Месяц назад

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