Im so glad its not just me It feels like a very lonely person who also wants attention & is just…making real life fanfic about themselves? Idk dude. They learned to voice act then said OK! Time to lie!
@@davvekat specially because she gives the guy the most stereotypical empty headed dudebro kind of cadence and I can't stop thinking that her alter is just Jonny Bravo...
I’ve noticed that most people who… ‘replicate’ a mental illness will often claim they have nearly every psychiatric disorder there is. It’s never just one, it’s all of them
and its often conflicting disorders too most psychiatrists won't diagnose multiple of the same category, such with EDs, as they have conflicting symptoms and criteria I also see a lot of combining symptoms that would be diagnosed as one thing, such as "depression, mania, bipolar" or "psychosis, mania, depression", when it would likely be diagnosed as just bipolar or schizoaffective disorder for example
To be fair, it's kind of rare to only have a single disorder because of how much things overlap. But also, as the other person said, they'll also count comorbid symptoms as their own diagnosis.
Most people have co-morbid diagnosed disorders, especially with neurodevelopmental disorders like autism. Many people with Autism will have ADHD and OCD and it's not rare to have PTSD either from years of child abuse. Eating disorders are also common in Autism like anorexia or ARFID. This is actually pretty common and accepted in medicine.
@@user-qg9nl5ph8v see it's not having multiple disorders that is the red flag, it's having multiple conflicting disorders. You can't be diagnosed with OSDD and DID but fakers always want to claim both. You can't have autism and PDDNOS or anorexia and EDNOS or ADHD and ADD but they always want to have as many diagnoses as possible so they list the whole category instead of their specific disorders.
@@user-qg9nl5ph8v yeahhh like. im fairly certain i have ASD and ADHD and have some distressibng Pure-OCD symptoms (which could be OCD itself or just a part of ASD/ADHD) + I suspect CPTSD which was misdiagnosed as BPD (a misdiagnosis which is common in AFABs with ASD too). Or if I do have BPD then it's in "remission" after years of therapy. & theres some diagnosed learning disability stuff and then chronic physical illnesses which cause more trauma during flares + hospitalisations so more PTSD symptoms and also more OCD & GAD symptoms (but imo the anxiety is justified so i wouldn't call it a disorder, even if my psych disagrees). Human brains are fun!
This whole “my alter is actually my daughter who I am in a sexual relationship with in our headspace” gives me a whole new ick factor about her discord that was aimed at teenagers talking about sex….
Mental health Professional here (LMSW) 👋🏻 I really want to push back on the narrative that they were diagnosed by a MHP. I have seen the recording and the practitioner is absolutely not diagnosing them with DID. They are hesitantly validating their experiences, but that was not a diagnosis. First and foremost, you aren’t going to get diagnosed with DID on BetterHelp or other online platforms. As you stated, it is a long process beginning with ruling out other options because it is a trauma-based disorder and other disorders have similar symptoms. I just really needed to finally let that therapist off the hook - that was not a diagnosis.
I agree. It took me nearly a year of seeing 2 therapists twice a week(insurance used to pay for that, bion) to get enough info to take to the psychiatrist, who I then had to meet with, off and on, for a further 3 months before I finally got my diagnosis. And this was me losing time regularly, meeting ppl who knew me that I did not recognize, finding things in my home I didn’t remember buying, years of trauma, etc, etc. After all those symptoms, they STILL were super careful. Sounds like it’s easier now(this was 1993) but still. I found myself wondering if the person had paid someone to pretend to be a therapist for the video. That’s still a possibility
Thank you for clarifying! I've heard of cases where people got diagnosed online during covid? I'm not sure if this was a real genuine diagnosis. Also, good point. The video clip, they said, "What you're describing is DID."
Thank you for saying this. I felt like that as well as soon as I saw that clip. He was extremely careful in his words to specifically not say he was diagnosing them
I totally agree because I had to go through years of my life stages to get diagnosed with schizophrenia and not bpd which is so commonly misdiagnosed as well. I'm shocked that they are posting videos of such bad information about this. I believe she is doing this for boredom, clout and just because she's not wanting to be mature. I've been following her shenanigans ever since she got on the tiktok app and I find no symptoms that even match her and I dissociate because of being an abuse victim and rape victim as well as being a autistic trans man in a family that wants me dead so I know why I got diagnosed with paranioa schizophrenia twice one in 2018 and again in 2021 where I showed real signs. I don't think she has any mental issues besides maybe being 5 years behind in the brain and not being mature? I'm no doctor so I don't know I am appreciated that you commented
Hey I have a question idk if you will answer. I feel like I doubt the existence of "alters". I was diagnosed with DID in 2017 and I don't have "alters". No one else I know with it has "alters". It's something I only have ever seen on the internet. Only thing I could even describe as an "alter" is dissociating and having time missing and feeling like I don't really know who the "real me" is. It's just overall confusing about my being. I don't have names for these things I feel, and they aren't different people even if it feels like it. So are alters just a tik tok mental illness LARPER thing or is it just another case of everyone experiences DID differently
Everything about this is awful, but it cannot be overstated how utterly disgusting and degenerate it is for a person to claim they are having an incestuous relationship with the soul of their own miscarried daughter.
I read this before starting the video and i wanted to know how we got from point A to THAT and i still dont understand wtf. Even if this person is lying they clearly need therapy cuz who just comes up with such an elaborate lie and keep the act to the point of basically dating themselves
i’m sorry, michelle you’re telling me this person’s FIANCÉ HAD A MISCARRIAGE.. AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS TO CREATE A VERSION OF HER IN THEIR HEAD AND DATE HER? and then talk about dating this miscarried child’s father/brother as the miscarried child??? this feels incredibly disrespectful to the ex fiancé im sorry because what?!
Fr, like I could see it actually happening that the brain might split and make that child real in the brain, but dating said child? Incest & pedophilia 100%
I know you have good intentions, but this is.. really common for DID systems & you need to be more respectful. It's not "disrespectful", it's introjectoin & it's extremely common for systems to develop introjects of partners, parents, coworkers, family members etc, especially during something extremely traumatic. A miscarriage is stressful and traumatic for all parties involved, it's something that is completely devastating to go through. Even if TwoSoulsOneBod is not a system, you're still calling something systems do that they have NO CONTROL OVER "disrespectful", and it's really ableist.
Wtf I thought they were bad before, but now claiming to have an incestuous relationship with the soul of their miscarried daughter and not even that a 14 year old daughter… new level of disgusting. This person is sick. In the past they tried to give sexual education to literal teens and kids on discord without their parent’s knowledge. Sick. So it’s not that surprising sadly.
The back and forth talking is what gives it away to me cause that’s not how two people communicate with each other. All it is is one person saying something and the other goes yeah yeah yeah it’s a lot of empty space word filling.
Yes, she's acting. She's ridiculous. The conversations don't sound like normal convo even teenagers would have. It's just a chance for her to demonstrate how ' special ' she is...
Yeah, and "they" both have the exact same way of speaking, the same mannerisms, the same personality through and through but with a slightly different tone of voice.
And tons of repeating. She’s always repeating what the “other” just said. Like in the kiss video one of them says “it was just a peck” and the other said “yeah just a light peck, dude” - she’s always doing that
Whenever I hear people talking like that, it's one sided with the other person not really knowing how to answer because the first person is basically going off on a tangent or not giving anything of substance to respond to and they're just letting them know they're still listening. I've never seen the same two people have EVERY conversation that same exact way.
easy way to tell someone pretending to be smoked has never been high before: *squints eyes* "im high now" this person should have just gone into acting and ran out their career in community theater like the rest of us
I think it’s so funny when people pretend they’re high by doing that and also just laughing lol it’s so fake. When I get high with friends we have some really serious and deep discussions about stuff, like we don’t seem blasted out of our minds like so many ppl try to portray lol
I will never understand how they can film this, edit it, and STILL post it. It takes me 3-4 business days to look at videos of me bc i cringe, they be doin all this with zero cringe?? How???
I am an older millennial, I grew up in a group of really accepting peers being high school and college aged in the oughts... I've seen the world change and have been blown away by people's ways to gain attention. But this, is fucking gross. Edit: Thanks for the kind replies and likes! I think this is the most social media interaction I've had since Myspace circa 2005.
@@eviejameson4706 Hey there, I am beyond terrible with compliments lol. If it's sarcasm, it is lost on me at the moment, so I'll just go with thank you. Thank you!
Also an elder millennial. Michelle suggests in the end that maybe she's naive. Frankly, we've all been there - I was also naive back in the oughts. But by now I've seen exactly this flavour of shameless attention-seeking malingering a hundred times over and I've also seen (and survived) the sort of genuine narcissism that thinks the world will believe whatever they're selling as long as they double and triple down until they have a new story to flip to. I know what I'm looking at with this individual. Like. Gorl just write fanfiction like the rest of us.
All I have to say is that the most I hear about them, the more I’m convinced this is psychosis. As someone who has psychosis (diagnosed) a LOT of these symptoms remind me of my own experiences. I had “other people” in my head. I could talk to them. At time I even thought they were taking over my body. Before I learned more about DID, I even thought I had it. But I didn’t, and once I learned more and met actual people with DID, it became glaringly obvious that it was not the same disorder. Combined with their experimentation with substances, ufo and other paranormal experiences, etc… all of these symptoms are hallmarks of psychosis. I hope they’re able to get help and proper treatment. Psychosis is terrifying.
Yeah everyones saying histrionic personality disorder but i was thinking psychosis too?? Like the logic and lore behind it runs too deep to just be for attention imo
@@moocowtoyou people who are experiencing psychosis very well might think life is awesome, that doesnt really take away from the possibility or make them seem like a worse person for potentially “enjoying” psychosis
Thank you, it seems super fake and the empty corny dialogue is just painful...who talks like that? There's a lot of little ego red flags as well with her which makes me think more along the lines of narcissism or something... who knows...EPIC levels of cringe, she wins there
I don't understand why anyone would blatantly fake disorders for TikTok clout. It's a lose-lose situation; they destroy their reputation whether people believe them or not. This kind of behaviour will make it even harder for them to find a job or a significant other because they come across as clearly dysfunctional.
With some people it’s pretty unfathomable, faking a disorder is life ruining for yourself and deceitful to others. However, with Annika & Tristan, it seems this person genuinely believes she’s two people. She’s not doing this out of malice, she’s trying to spread what she thinks is “truth”. Personally, I’d say she does need a diagnosis, for some form of psychosis or similarly related disorder.
@@honkhonk275I’m not convinced. I’ve know extreme liars before, they just keep going. Had an abusive ex who faked DID, they used it against me when threats of self harm and suicide stopped working.
Ah, you might not have been around for the "everyone on the internet has depression now" era of the early 20-teens, where it was "cool and quirky" to have depression and suicide-related ideations. Not only did it make people who faked it look like clowns, but genuinely made it harder for people with depression to get help because no one took them seriously Now imagine what this twat is doing to the DID community
Dude, I wish I had their kind of DID! I just have the lame kind where I have to spend hundreds of dollars on weekly therapy and don’t remember how I ended up in a random neighborhood an hour away from home
Wow, that's scary. This statement is why it makes my blood boil seeing people fake diagnosis for attention. It's gross, they treat it like a game when it's usually very hard for people who ACTUALLY ARE dealing with this.... Good luck to you with everything
@@im4everskilledThe algorithm pushes content at you that it thinks you want to see. It's likely that a lot of DID systems seeking out DID / mental health content have ended up here because their algorithms are similar. Plus, even 1.5% of 8 billion people is still 120 million. Just a thought /nm
maybe, but being in their 30s creating a hypothetical romantic/sensual relationship with the soul of their would-be-14-y/o m*scarr*ed child is sick regardless.
The more I hear this person talk to themselves, the more I'm convinced it's just pretty good vocal control. Also speak to themselves like they're in a bad romance novel. And the entire backstory they've given themselves is extremely gross and unsettling.
there's a reason why they're giving them 'too much credence.' because michelle isn't an asshole that jumps to conclusions without contemplating it first. of course, it may be most likely they're faking it, but it's GOOD to contemplate and think about the circumstances of TSOB.
My sister actually does have most of those conditions, except for tourettes, and its an f-ing nightmare, for her and our family. Sucks ass, would never film her having her episodes. Its scary.
I have them all and I spent most of my teens unable to attend school like a normal person, and spents months in psych wards. I was constantly in and out hospitals until I 22. I feel secondhand embarrassment watching this person
@@matthewfranklin2137 i can't imagine how it must feel having your real struggles being made a mockery like this. i hope you're feeling better nowadays! 💛
@@ty11717 2024 was the first year since I was 16 I didn’t go to the psych ward! I am doing so much better, but still cannot work or function in society the way I should be. I’ve accepted it and aim to improve what I can because I know my level of CPTSD is going to affect me for life. I live on disability and rely on those around me to survive. Just a few more reasons this person is genuinely disgusting. People with these conditions combined are outcasts in society and constantly face abuse seeking out help. She just makes my blood boil
For real tho. I think this "two souls" chick is a hack, but her saying those conditions are unlikely to occur together is incredibly inaccurate. Trauma breaks the brain in more ways then one. Most people with one mental disorder usually have others as a comorbidity.
I'm out of school but my brother just started highschool and he says there's so many kids who claim to have tics, tourettes, DID, schizophrenia, the whole shabang. All at only 14 years old.
The clip of them "talking" back and forth reminds me of that scene in Spiderman when William Dafoe is discovering that hes the green goblin and talking to himself in the mirror 💀
Willem Dafoe at least looked like he believed in the characters of Norman Osbourne and the Green Goblin, whatever this is, is not believable in the least. They are shite at acting.
That’s just it, they don’t realize how much of an over actor they are. The exaggerated facial expressions are common in bad acting. This isn’t a conversation between two people, it’s someone playing characters.
Ive seen someone say that this would've been a cool creative project. Instead, they claim DID. From what I know DID RARELY just has 2 alters. Its usually a group thay helps take care of the body.
2 alters is actually more common than you think. Most systems were just 2 alters at some point, and some never expand past that. Otherwise you're correct :'o
@@neetidols I didn't know that, thank you! For myself, I do not have two alters, I have quite a few. I believe I left my whole paragraph explaining myself on their wonderland video from not too long ago. If I find it I'll repost it under here.
"I am undiagnosed DID. I dont post about it, I dont tell people, its something that I live with. Only my fiancé and best friend know. I used to question all the time if my DID is just "oh I LOVE creating characters and role playing, so its just me daydreaming in my head". I genuinely believe its more than that. I dont dictate what the "characters" say. I dont have control over them in that way. I barely know anything about my innerworld. Im a front stuck host. The only time Ive been in the innerworld is when I went into dormancy, which was only a few times. Some of my alters are brain made, and they dont have a source. But something I feel as though I would get fake claimed for is that most of my alters are from some kind of source. Such as MHA, Hazbin, Sander Sides, Blues Clues, Dora, etc. One of my alters is Dora from Dora the Explore. She formed when I was younger, around 5/6. I didnt know about her existence until a few months ago (I realized I was a system in 2020). She is like her source. She acts like Dora from the early seasons of the show. She is specially a mood booster. She doesnt front, but from what Im aware she helps younger children in the innerworld. Another alter that split a few months ago was Alastor from Hazbin Hotel. He does not act like his source. He fronts a few times a week, his sorta a co-host? He helps me do tasks when I mentally shut down and can not do anything. He helps me get things done when I can not. I currently live in my home with my biological family. I constantly feel stuck in fight or flight, and I split fragments often. I have a lot of alters, old and new. I dont even know the extent of my alters, my innerworld, and what goes on in there. I do know my system is safe, which I know is NOT common for people with DID. I dont have malicious alters who want to do harm. I have some trauma holders who act out, such as one of our Bakugo alters, but they want to protect me. With help, hes calmed down and works through that anger he has daily. I feel as though I am faking my DID since I dont show symptoms, it doesnt affect my daily life. If anything has any suggestions to help or have any questions, please comment. 🩷🩷" My repost of my comment from their Wonderland video
I was diagnosed with DID. I do not have it. I think this huge surge of people taking about it is good, when it’s educating people. But some lazy/bad doctors are also seeming to take part in it. She didn’t even tell me she was diagnosing me with it, it was just on my paperwork after an appointment. It caused a lot more issues than it fixed since I was dealing with really bad ptsd, and dissociating a lot. I was trying to get help for something I didn’t actually have and kind of went into a weird state of psychosis. Once I was removed from the dangerous environment I was in, and began having a healthy diet with support from loved ones, it just went away. I talked to my new doctor about it and they were shocked by my experience, removing it from my diagnosis. I thankfully never posted about it online, but I told friends and it was so embarrassing having to come out and be like “heeeey- crazy story.” Edit: okay it didn’t go away, it never will. But I am able to manage it in a way that makes life more manageable and I’m recovering
❤ the last words in the edit. And your experience with the doctor is horrible. That doc should lose the license for such misconduct and disregard of caring for the correctness of the diagnosis. What a quack. Sorry you had such an exceptionally bad doctor. Just reading about it was shocking to me.
I've had to ask doctors to correct things they've written on my charts purely because it could lead to me not getting accurate care in the future (and make it more difficult for me to manage the symptoms I do have) and it fucking sucks. So many times doctors make snap judgments without ACTUALLY discussing things with the patient. If they suspect the patient has a certain condition, they absolutely should ask more questions to see if the symptoms actually line up with the diagnostic criteria for something. I'm glad you have been able to find some balance and I hope it will be even easier to manage in the future!
As someone who’s neurodivergent and also mentally ill, I 100% would have believed this person as a preteen/teenager just from how they’re explaining things, trying to be perceived as truthful and keeping it going for so long. I had a best friend who was a compulsive liar so it was easy for me to believe things. I feel so bad for all the people they’ve deceived with what they’re doing. I definitely feel like they have problems but DID is definitely not one of them. Thank you for covering this, I’m still so shocked that there’s more stuff to come out about twosoulsonebod
YES ! this smells of an individual who is infiltrating into unstable, trauma affected, "open minded" superficially informed by misleading and echo chambered communities drunk on dunning krueger, empathy centered individuals, especially youth popular topics,, a safe from sexx romanticization of heterosexuality im seeing a cult leader building a following.. i have ba and ma in psychology
My whole thing is: if they're truly in the same body, sharing the same brain, then why do they have to speak out loud to hear and understand each other?
I am not an expert in this matter but do have a pretty significant interest in neuroscience and the mechanics of the brain. Though we still don’t understand a lot of neurological mapping and which areas are responsible for what we do have a general understanding. I’m willing to wager that if someone was to conduct a working fMRI of their brain, if what they claim is true you’d see it in a scan somehow. For instance we can see when someone feels certain ways about another person based on which areas of the brain light up. Professionals would be able to see if something different was happening in their brain. It’s too bad fMRIs are so expensive and used almost exclusively for research and serious cases. We’d be able to understand what exactly is happening in cases like these a bit better. Provided they’re willing to take an fMRI. Something tells me they’d back out for one reason or another.
Okay they’re fake af but 1. They’re talking to a camera the way anyone who makes tiktoks does in their free time, 2. People often talk to themselves to solidify their thoughts.
I think what really stands out to me is that here we have a parent supposedly giving up their body so their child can exist in it...and that is just the plot of Steven Universe. And they were wearing a Steven Universe shirt in one of the videos, which is just really...hmm. I cant help but think that this is a lonely person who wants attention so badly that they invented a little OC by using little pieces of fiction they like a lot, and instead of making it into a story they made it their 'real' life. While this is cringe, its more sad than anything.
They contradict themselves and change their story based on people's reaction wayyyy too frequently for me to believe them. Maybe there's some sort of mental thing going on with them but I honestly think this is for clout, which in a way could mean they do really have something wrong with them to where they're seeking out this sort of attention but I'm not a doctor. I think them faking having DID is disgusting tho
Honestly she should have STARTED with aliens. At least that way they aren't spreading medical misinformation and they could claim they're "acting" without backlash.
1:31 with peace and love /gen this isn't how percentages work. like, for instance, numbers vary, but the percentage of adults with ADHD is ~5% and the percentage of adults with PTSD is ~4%. if you treat this as simple math, then that would mean that the percentage of adults with both ADHD and PTSD is 0.2% (two people for every thousand) however, PTSD and ADHD are comorbid. Posttraumatic stress disorder in adult attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder: clinical features and familial transmission (Antshel et al) showed that 10% of adults with PTSD had ADHD (of the sample size of course). in a hypothetical group of one thousand people, 50 people would have ADHD. and if 10% of those with ADHD have PTSD, then that would be five of every thousand. i know this seems nit picky but even with those two illnesses, the difference in the basic math vs. taking comorbidity into account is 2x+ greater. for instance, i have (professionally diagnosed) hEDS and POTS. EDS percentages are about 0.02% for the adult population (two people for every ten thousand). POTS is estimated to be about 0.2% of the adult population (two people for every thousand). If you just multiply the two, you get 0.00004%...(four in every ten million people) EXCEPT that doesn't account for the fact that EIGHTY PERCENT of people with hEDS have POTS. so you end up really looking at 0.016% (1.6 people for every ten thousand) To visualize that: basic math: 4 people in Michigan have both hEDS and POTS. math when taking comorbidity into account: 1,600 people in Michigan have both hEDS and POTS. that is a MASSIVE difference. the reason i bring this up is that there's this false idea that the more "rare" conditions you have, the less likely you are to be "real." when in reality, if you have something rare it's likely that you have other conditions that are equally strange. i'm not saying this to justify this account though LOL. (and if i forgot to carry a decimal point somewhere please let me know...if i'm cringe i want to be at least cringe but correct) /lh
right?? its just so weird to me especially since they only ever talk about those two alters. im not super duper educated on did but im pretty sure most symptoms have more then one alter at some poing especially with the trauma they described
It's like me writing a comment and then responding to myself, pretending to be "the other personality". Like... what's the point of texting with myself, other than for show?
@@kc4505the term "smoked hams" alone is so childish, and the behaviour is like someone who's never been high trying to emulate what they think it's like c,:
It's kind of fascinating, how people who pretend to be something they are not, always resort to the utmost primitive stereotypes one could imagine. It's the equivalent to putting on a paper mask with a rubber band attached, to make people believe you are actually totally a different person for real (nobody will ever suspect a thing!)
One of my friends figured out that they are a system and they are in their early 20s, it can take some people a long time to figure things out and to accept it. Im not calming this is what happened here but it can happen
@@yuricore004 Agreed, I found out I was a system in my early 20's, although looking back I can definitely see moments where I didn't act as 'myself' and simply wasn't aware of it or what that was.
@@Monikamusic02official I think that's partially because of spreading awareness and recognizing the disorder as a valid psychological phenomenon and not some scary mystery that definitely means you'll be locked away in a psyche ward, but unfortunately there's also a lot of impressionable and irresponsible people that want to hop on the 'trend' and seem 'quirky' and 'unique' when they don't realize how deeply it impacts day to day living. I myself when first finding out I had DID was afraid and confused and worried that I was just faking it, that I'd convince myself I had this illness but then it would spontaneously go away within a month or so. But years later I still live with it and have experienced moments of distress where I'm not sure where or who I am. Awareness and understanding is good and important but the process of diagnosis or even realization that one has a certain psychological disorder takes a long time.
@chronicsheepdeprivation8441 Wow thank you for that thorough comment. Totally get it and 100% agree with you in all points. I also feel this is happening with the lgbtq+ community. While I know it's not a choice for many, including my brother, kids have taken it as a dad. Like it's the cool thing to be these days and I hate it because it makes it trivial when it's not. But I get what you're saying.. 💛
26:28 About their voice switching-- She's trans, and has either had voice training lessons or has practiced it a lot herself, so she can go between the voices fairly easily. This isn't all that uncommon of a talent, although it is certainly an impressive skill that can be incredibly well-refined, like in this case. For another example of this, check out the monster called The Unknown from Dead by Daylight-- this is a shape-shifting body-snatcher type creature has a masculine and feminine voice provided by voice actress Zoey Alexandria, who was a professional "Transvoice" teacher and thus has a very similar ability to switch between two distinct voices at will.
As much as I don't believe TwoSoulsOneBod and don't condone ANY of the actions they've done, I respect how you talk about them in this video. You explore the possibilities of there being two souls in one body and mildly entertaining their claims. It's like a breath of fresh air to watch someone talk about a bad situation by fully exploring both sides and letting the audience decide what side to be on
Narcissus wouldn't just be proud, he'd be jealous that he didn't come up with this utter degeneracy. Like, that is an entirely different level. Ancient Greek storytellers would rip out their eyes in rage that they didn't have that idea first.
The whole "was diagnosed" thing is complete bs. No one is gonna diagnose someone in 1 session. I actually wonder if that person actually is a licensed phycologist at all. I've often wondered if it was a friend or something playing along. Even if they were a professional someone that has been faking DID kinda knows what to say when answering questions. That's why a diagnosis like this, especially one that has been so "trendy" recently would need months if not years of therapy and analysis to see if they really have it. Any professional work their salt isn't gonna just say..."I've only seen you once, you've never had childhood trauma, this isn't how DID normally presents, the switches aren't exhausting, traumatic or stressful and can be controlled and the timing is off... but you say you have alters, so you have DID. Let's call it a day". If he truly was a real professional I really question everything about them. They are a hack and the board should be looking at them more closely.
this is kind of off topic, but i really appreciate how you dont mock others spiritual beliefs just because they fall out of the norm, not many creators do that (even though they absolutely should) and it just proves how great of a creator you are.
one thing i’ll put here, not that i’m ENTIRELY convinced twosouls is faking DID (im like 80-90%) but something i see a TON with people who fake DID (an example i can think of is the wonderland system, and many others) is people who *really think* they have DID, when in reality they maladaptive daydream. i maladaptive daydream, i have a dissociative disorder, but not DID. i’ve gone through a ton of trauma and a lot of the time that can cause maladaptive daydreaming, and, when you don’t know the difference, a lot of times the combo of having oc’s, and maladaptive daydreaming can make someone like this say “oh! this is DID!!” when it very clearly is not. i can’t really explain what maladaptive daydreaming with dissociation is like, but if you daydream as you being those other people, those oc’s, i can see maybe how someone uneducated on DID would think that. dunno if that made a ton of sense but that’s my two cents, not a medical professional.
this really makes me sad… i’m very traditional Canadian indigenous and in my TRADITIONAL culture there is a term of Two-Spirit. I feel like this is a continuation of the erasing of indigenous history…. I identify with Two-Spirit and I also identify as Non-binary. So watching this … just.. gives me a deep sadness (sorry if this didn’t make sense i am currently on hams bc this makes me sad)
@@prestonthebeston1735 Hi! Alaskan native here! it’s actually a very cool way to describe someone who have both masculine and feminine spirits. In laymen’s terms, a cultures way of explaining non binary queer people! Some, but not all, indigenous cultures hold people who are two spirits in a high regard. Hope that helps! And obviously If the original commenters culture differs, listen to them as well!
@@jessied4105 oh, that’s really cool! I’m gonna use a totally different thing as an example, but is it sort of a gated term? Like how xenopronouns are used exclusively by neurodivergent people to describe their different ways of dealing with gender?
to me they sound exactly like when you used to play with your dolls and voiced both parties of a conversation, and i think they believe it in a way where they played with the thought that this would be fun or comforting for so long they developed a sort of pseudo self to talk to but i don't think they have DID or two souls (i do believe in souls, aliens, all that sort of stuff)
She could honestly just have done voice acting! It’s impressive how much control she has over her voice. Anywayyyys, I believe in some pretty “out there” and metaphysical things. I have seen some even crazier things that have no known explanation but I’m still quite skeptical here. Honestly I bet she’s not the worst person on this earth but this is extreeeeemely difficult to watch and see at times because it comes off instinctively as funky.
I watched your original video about this person because you were debunking their behavior and how people fake disorders on tiktok with obvious acting skills for clout, so why is this update taking them so seriously?
my personal thought is that she’s being more respectful to further her point, after all just dogging on tsob has no real impact without cross references
Hahahaha I've tourettes and i would be SO happy when i could say "okay two more times!" tic tic - over. It's not how tourette works. :( and i feel very sad about this representation of everything from her. Dunno what to say anymore
Normally I don't comment under videos but wanted to bring up how similar their "psychologist's" inflection and general way of speaking is to their own. If I needed to fake video proof that I was diagnosed with something I would also record myself and then voice over the video to make it seem like a psychologist is talking to me about my diagnosis.
Totally comes off as psychosis more than anything else. Edit: ESPECIALLY after hearing she experimented with psychedelics. As a system, acid was pretty nightmarish at times for us and the rapid switching alone was completely exhausting. We all felt like a damn rubix cube and had a pretty severe episode of psychosis after. Obviously not the case for everyone, but her obsession with the spirituality of what she originally called a mental disorder is very weird. In psychosis, all your delusions feel so real so I don't think they are doing this with the intent of faking and damaging the DID community.
I think blending new age religion with science is really disengeneous of them and tbh it feels like a deliberate attempt to deflect from the fact that mental health professionals 'don't know what's going on with them' and they don't fit the vast majority of DID symptoms. Edit: I would like to hear her play the banjo or guitar and I bet she can probably sing with her voice acting skills too - I'm kinda sad she's chosen this way to get attention.
This seems like feeling so lonely you act like your dream person is inside you and loving you so much. Their conversations sound like lines from some cringe romantic movie. And the explanations sound like they don’t know now how to reveal that they’ve just created it out of loneliness so they’re digging a grave so deep its impossible to go back
I think this person (and other people who fake DID) might not realise they're allowed to act like two people without pretending to actually be two people. You don't have to limit yourself to one consistent persona and say you're another soul/alter when you want to be something else. I feel for them, they must feel a great sense of lack in order to compensate in such an elaborate way. Also The Pearl shirt, Love Like You in one of their tiktoks, them saying "show the world something entirely new"... They just want to be Garnet from Steven Universe... Bro me too but some things we can never have!!
Unimportant side note, but something small that bugs me is that they clearly have talent with the voice switching thing and that would likely be popular on tiktok on its own. They didn’t really need to create this messed up, damaging persona for tiktok fame. They could have made skits or just shown off their impressive voice skills.
Jeffery Mishlove should probably not be regarded as a DID specialist or even a reliable doctor. He has "the only doctoral diploma in parapsychology ever awarded by an accredited university". Parapsychology is all about psychic phenomenon, and Mishlove's career is all about being a media personality, not a doctor. Because he believes in parapsychology, he will absolutely not evaluate "real" disorders in order to favor his own parapych solutions. The problem is, grifters like people are just close enough to legit that they can use their primary skills (read: sales) to have very very loud voices on social media, covering more established research.
This just feels like they saw fusion from steven universe and decided that was them. Especially the "something entirely new" comment and the steven universe music in their videos.
MH/SUD worker here.... I do know individuals who do rapid change without the exhausting aspect plaguing them. I can talk to 4 people in the span of 15 minutes. More like they are constantly co-con. With that said, in my opinion and not a diagnosis - this individual does not have DID but some other sort of other MH diagnosis
Not to undiagnose but their favorite show is steven universe which is either an influence or just a coincidence. The themes in the show are about 2 people sharing 1 body. It was made by a nonbinary person to explore these themes of identity and love. Given their name is inspired by star trek It's interesting that their identity mirrors so much from steven universe. The character Garnet in the show is literally two people in love living in 1 body.
Glad to see someone who doesn't shoot down self-diagnosis out of hand (access issues are REAL), but acknowledged that by taking on the burden of diagnosis, we also take on the possibility of misdiagnosis
I'm sorry, but the transplanted alien-in-a-human reveal is so weirdly like a major plot point in the anime Birdy the Mighty it's a definitely hard to swallow. Granted, in the anime the human "died" because the alien accidentally punched him to death, so she hosts his mind in her body while his body is getting fixed, but like..... It's just odd. The show is even a guy and girl pair, but granted it's way less creepy than whatever is happening here.
Those morning doves were Annika and James astral projecting to spy on you.
🤣
Now we just need Zeus thrown in there somewhere and we have a story on a level of such utter degeneracy that the Ancient Greeks would love it.
😆🤣😂
this is so fucking funny
The male and female voice switching gives me so much second hand embarssment I kept cringin
No fr idk how they can even show their face ANYWHERE
Im so glad its not just me
It feels like a very lonely person who also wants attention & is just…making real life fanfic about themselves? Idk dude.
They learned to voice act then said OK! Time to lie!
@@davvekat specially because she gives the guy the most stereotypical empty headed dudebro kind of cadence and I can't stop thinking that her alter is just Jonny Bravo...
Same 💀
I literally had to skip those parts in the video cause it was literally unbearable to sit through
I’ve noticed that most people who… ‘replicate’ a mental illness will often claim they have nearly every psychiatric disorder there is. It’s never just one, it’s all of them
and its often conflicting disorders too
most psychiatrists won't diagnose multiple of the same category, such with EDs, as they have conflicting symptoms and criteria
I also see a lot of combining symptoms that would be diagnosed as one thing, such as "depression, mania, bipolar" or "psychosis, mania, depression", when it would likely be diagnosed as just bipolar or schizoaffective disorder for example
To be fair, it's kind of rare to only have a single disorder because of how much things overlap. But also, as the other person said, they'll also count comorbid symptoms as their own diagnosis.
Most people have co-morbid diagnosed disorders, especially with neurodevelopmental disorders like autism. Many people with Autism will have ADHD and OCD and it's not rare to have PTSD either from years of child abuse. Eating disorders are also common in Autism like anorexia or ARFID. This is actually pretty common and accepted in medicine.
@@user-qg9nl5ph8v see it's not having multiple disorders that is the red flag, it's having multiple conflicting disorders. You can't be diagnosed with OSDD and DID but fakers always want to claim both. You can't have autism and PDDNOS or anorexia and EDNOS or ADHD and ADD but they always want to have as many diagnoses as possible so they list the whole category instead of their specific disorders.
@@user-qg9nl5ph8v yeahhh like. im fairly certain i have ASD and ADHD and have some distressibng Pure-OCD symptoms (which could be OCD itself or just a part of ASD/ADHD) + I suspect CPTSD which was misdiagnosed as BPD (a misdiagnosis which is common in AFABs with ASD too). Or if I do have BPD then it's in "remission" after years of therapy. & theres some diagnosed learning disability stuff and then chronic physical illnesses which cause more trauma during flares + hospitalisations so more PTSD symptoms and also more OCD & GAD symptoms (but imo the anxiety is justified so i wouldn't call it a disorder, even if my psych disagrees). Human brains are fun!
This whole “my alter is actually my daughter who I am in a sexual relationship with in our headspace” gives me a whole new ick factor about her discord that was aimed at teenagers talking about sex….
Mental health Professional here (LMSW) 👋🏻 I really want to push back on the narrative that they were diagnosed by a MHP. I have seen the recording and the practitioner is absolutely not diagnosing them with DID. They are hesitantly validating their experiences, but that was not a diagnosis. First and foremost, you aren’t going to get diagnosed with DID on BetterHelp or other online platforms. As you stated, it is a long process beginning with ruling out other options because it is a trauma-based disorder and other disorders have similar symptoms. I just really needed to finally let that therapist off the hook - that was not a diagnosis.
I agree. It took me nearly a year of seeing 2 therapists twice a week(insurance used to pay for that, bion) to get enough info to take to the psychiatrist, who I then had to meet with, off and on, for a further 3 months before I finally got my diagnosis. And this was me losing time regularly, meeting ppl who knew me that I did not recognize, finding things in my home I didn’t remember buying, years of trauma, etc, etc. After all those symptoms, they STILL were super careful. Sounds like it’s easier now(this was 1993) but still. I found myself wondering if the person had paid someone to pretend to be a therapist for the video. That’s still a possibility
Thank you for clarifying! I've heard of cases where people got diagnosed online during covid? I'm not sure if this was a real genuine diagnosis. Also, good point. The video clip, they said, "What you're describing is DID."
Thank you for saying this. I felt like that as well as soon as I saw that clip. He was extremely careful in his words to specifically not say he was diagnosing them
I totally agree because I had to go through years of my life stages to get diagnosed with schizophrenia and not bpd which is so commonly misdiagnosed as well. I'm shocked that they are posting videos of such bad information about this. I believe she is doing this for boredom, clout and just because she's not wanting to be mature. I've been following her shenanigans ever since she got on the tiktok app and I find no symptoms that even match her and I dissociate because of being an abuse victim and rape victim as well as being a autistic trans man in a family that wants me dead so I know why I got diagnosed with paranioa schizophrenia twice one in 2018 and again in 2021 where I showed real signs. I don't think she has any mental issues besides maybe being 5 years behind in the brain and not being mature? I'm no doctor so I don't know I am appreciated that you commented
Hey I have a question idk if you will answer. I feel like I doubt the existence of "alters". I was diagnosed with DID in 2017 and I don't have "alters". No one else I know with it has "alters". It's something I only have ever seen on the internet. Only thing I could even describe as an "alter" is dissociating and having time missing and feeling like I don't really know who the "real me" is. It's just overall confusing about my being. I don't have names for these things I feel, and they aren't different people even if it feels like it. So are alters just a tik tok mental illness LARPER thing or is it just another case of everyone experiences DID differently
Everything about this is awful, but it cannot be overstated how utterly disgusting and degenerate it is for a person to claim they are having an incestuous relationship with the soul of their own miscarried daughter.
Me reading the comments first… oh.
@@HeyyyitsLissy ME TOO
I don't believe a word this person says
I read this before starting the video and i wanted to know how we got from point A to THAT and i still dont understand wtf.
Even if this person is lying they clearly need therapy cuz who just comes up with such an elaborate lie and keep the act to the point of basically dating themselves
.... i havent even gotten to that part yet WHAT THE HELL
TwoSoulsOneBod rly went "passing the blunt to myself cuz im the only real g around"
underrated
This is the comment 💀💀💀
Also relatable asf 💀
LMAO
Well, this is the funniest thing I'm going to read today.
This comment is perfect lmao.
i’m sorry, michelle you’re telling me this person’s FIANCÉ HAD A MISCARRIAGE.. AND THEIR RESPONSE WAS TO CREATE A VERSION OF HER IN THEIR HEAD AND DATE HER? and then talk about dating this miscarried child’s father/brother as the miscarried child??? this feels incredibly disrespectful to the ex fiancé im sorry because what?!
Fr, like I could see it actually happening that the brain might split and make that child real in the brain, but dating said child? Incest & pedophilia 100%
She needs institutionalized tbh. Biznitch be trippin'.
"they" need to be hospitalized. 😂
this person doesn't have DID but they DEFINITELY need SERIOUS and honest therapy because their mind is absolutely cooked to come up with that shit 😭😭😭
I know you have good intentions, but this is.. really common for DID systems & you need to be more respectful. It's not "disrespectful", it's introjectoin & it's extremely common for systems to develop introjects of partners, parents, coworkers, family members etc, especially during something extremely traumatic. A miscarriage is stressful and traumatic for all parties involved, it's something that is completely devastating to go through. Even if TwoSoulsOneBod is not a system, you're still calling something systems do that they have NO CONTROL OVER "disrespectful", and it's really ableist.
Wtf I thought they were bad before, but now claiming to have an incestuous relationship with the soul of their miscarried daughter and not even that a 14 year old daughter… new level of disgusting. This person is sick. In the past they tried to give sexual education to literal teens and kids on discord without their parent’s knowledge. Sick. So it’s not that surprising sadly.
The way they were so giddy about it too....im convinced she uses did to excuse acting out her fantasies that involve older male figures, incest etc.
The back and forth talking is what gives it away to me cause that’s not how two people communicate with each other. All it is is one person saying something and the other goes yeah yeah yeah it’s a lot of empty space word filling.
Yes, she's acting. She's ridiculous. The conversations don't sound like normal convo even teenagers would have. It's just a chance for her to demonstrate how ' special ' she is...
Yeah, and "they" both have the exact same way of speaking, the same mannerisms, the same personality through and through but with a slightly different tone of voice.
And tons of repeating. She’s always repeating what the “other” just said. Like in the kiss video one of them says “it was just a peck” and the other said “yeah just a light peck, dude” - she’s always doing that
@@alexamandes8872 when youre bad at writing dialogue in your weird self insert fanfic where you are both parts of the relationship
Whenever I hear people talking like that, it's one sided with the other person not really knowing how to answer because the first person is basically going off on a tangent or not giving anything of substance to respond to and they're just letting them know they're still listening. I've never seen the same two people have EVERY conversation that same exact way.
Well they definitely have “I Am So So Special and Unique Please Give Me Attention” syndrome
Bingo!
HPD, to be accurate.
@@deadchild027also possibly munchausens
Middle Schooler Syndrome!
@@deadchild027 what's hpd? Maybe I'm dull lol
easy way to tell someone pretending to be smoked has never been high before:
*squints eyes* "im high now"
this person should have just gone into acting and ran out their career in community theater like the rest of us
I think it’s so funny when people pretend they’re high by doing that and also just laughing lol it’s so fake. When I get high with friends we have some really serious and deep discussions about stuff, like we don’t seem blasted out of our minds like so many ppl try to portray lol
They are a theatre kid; that’s what gets me. They are literally a trained voice actor.
@@cornchips3285theater kid AND a steven universe stan that says enough 😭
@@MetastaticMaladiesyes it’s actually nothing like this or how it’s portrayed in tv unless it’s ur first time😂
It's like that meme of some kid with a half empty beer bottle in his hand:
"I am soooo wasted, dude!"
Beer in the picture: alcohol free
her acting high is like when u give a teen a drink and say its alcoholic but its not
Yes! Or what a friend calls "stoner surfing" -- when someone else gets high allegedly from secondhand weed smoke without smoking themselves.
I will never understand how they can film this, edit it, and STILL post it. It takes me 3-4 business days to look at videos of me bc i cringe, they be doin all this with zero cringe?? How???
Could be a combo of low self awareness and high ego.
Narcissism and histrionism is one hell of a drug
severe case of COTKD (chronically online theater kid disorder)
FRRR
@@weewooweewoo906100%
I am an older millennial, I grew up in a group of really accepting peers being high school and college aged in the oughts... I've seen the world change and have been blown away by people's ways to gain attention.
But this, is fucking gross.
Edit: Thanks for the kind replies and likes! I think this is the most social media interaction I've had since Myspace circa 2005.
Regardless of what type of mental health issues she has, calling her "gross" doesn't help anyone. Grow up.
Omg your gorgeous grammar... I just had to stop and appreciate it for a moment. Carry on.
@@eviejameson4706 Hey there, I am beyond terrible with compliments lol. If it's sarcasm, it is lost on me at the moment, so I'll just go with thank you.
Thank you!
I wish I could have put this as eloquently as you but yup, one million percent agree! It's frightening and fucking gross indeed.
Also an elder millennial. Michelle suggests in the end that maybe she's naive. Frankly, we've all been there - I was also naive back in the oughts. But by now I've seen exactly this flavour of shameless attention-seeking malingering a hundred times over and I've also seen (and survived) the sort of genuine narcissism that thinks the world will believe whatever they're selling as long as they double and triple down until they have a new story to flip to. I know what I'm looking at with this individual.
Like. Gorl just write fanfiction like the rest of us.
All I have to say is that the most I hear about them, the more I’m convinced this is psychosis. As someone who has psychosis (diagnosed) a LOT of these symptoms remind me of my own experiences. I had “other people” in my head. I could talk to them. At time I even thought they were taking over my body. Before I learned more about DID, I even thought I had it. But I didn’t, and once I learned more and met actual people with DID, it became glaringly obvious that it was not the same disorder. Combined with their experimentation with substances, ufo and other paranormal experiences, etc… all of these symptoms are hallmarks of psychosis. I hope they’re able to get help and proper treatment. Psychosis is terrifying.
Yeah everyones saying histrionic personality disorder but i was thinking psychosis too?? Like the logic and lore behind it runs too deep to just be for attention imo
Yea I have it and I did self diagnosed myself with DID in the past
THIS!! i had a psychotic break 4yrs ago and had all the same experiences & beliefs
bet it impaired all of you, made life suck........while this one boasts how awesome living is
@@moocowtoyou people who are experiencing psychosis very well might think life is awesome, that doesnt really take away from the possibility or make them seem like a worse person for potentially “enjoying” psychosis
She is a trained vocal actress. How are people not getting this? She is clearly grifting, as are most ‘systems’ on social media.
Thank you, it seems super fake and the empty corny dialogue is just painful...who talks like that? There's a lot of little ego red flags as well with her which makes me think more along the lines of narcissism or something... who knows...EPIC levels of cringe, she wins there
THIS!
She would have made more money and gotten much less backlash by just getting into voice acting
@@moyo6606 That probably takes more work than just posting random tiktok vids
@@netman446yeah she took the lazy way to a career
18:06 Those Mourning Doves was a sign that twosouls are after you😭
twoBirdsoneStone
Today i learned its spelling “Mourning” 😂
@@Tw0Dots Yeah, because the sound doves make sound sad, as if mourning :3
Not morning, though it's a common mistake with doves xD
@@bingonight1504THIS MADE ME CACKLE. IT'S MIDNIGHT MY FAMILY IS TRYING TO SLEEP HOW DARE YOU!!!
I don't understand why anyone would blatantly fake disorders for TikTok clout. It's a lose-lose situation; they destroy their reputation whether people believe them or not. This kind of behaviour will make it even harder for them to find a job or a significant other because they come across as clearly dysfunctional.
With some people it’s pretty unfathomable, faking a disorder is life ruining for yourself and deceitful to others. However, with Annika & Tristan, it seems this person genuinely believes she’s two people. She’s not doing this out of malice, she’s trying to spread what she thinks is “truth”. Personally, I’d say she does need a diagnosis, for some form of psychosis or similarly related disorder.
@@honkhonk275I’m not convinced. I’ve know extreme liars before, they just keep going. Had an abusive ex who faked DID, they used it against me when threats of self harm and suicide stopped working.
Ah, you might not have been around for the "everyone on the internet has depression now" era of the early 20-teens, where it was "cool and quirky" to have depression and suicide-related ideations. Not only did it make people who faked it look like clowns, but genuinely made it harder for people with depression to get help because no one took them seriously
Now imagine what this twat is doing to the DID community
im seeing a cult leader building a following.. i have ba and ma in psychology
Munchausen syndrome
Dude, I wish I had their kind of DID! I just have the lame kind where I have to spend hundreds of dollars on weekly therapy and don’t remember how I ended up in a random neighborhood an hour away from home
Wow, that's scary. This statement is why it makes my blood boil seeing people fake diagnosis for attention. It's gross, they treat it like a game when it's usually very hard for people who ACTUALLY ARE dealing with this.... Good luck to you with everything
Funny how everyone claim to have DID in the comments too. Something so extremely rare and still debated if it’s actually real.. that’s odd
@@im4everskilledThe algorithm pushes content at you that it thinks you want to see. It's likely that a lot of DID systems seeking out DID / mental health content have ended up here because their algorithms are similar. Plus, even 1.5% of 8 billion people is still 120 million. Just a thought /nm
@@thehearthotel its not 1.5%
@@im4everskilledyup, not even close in reality
what if we were fr and just admitted to ourselves that its just a lonely trans woman exploring genderfluidity
this exactly
maybe, but being in their 30s creating a hypothetical romantic/sensual relationship with the soul of their would-be-14-y/o m*scarr*ed child is sick regardless.
This was EXACTLY my thought. Like, it's super awesome to love and feel out all aspects of your gender identity, but...that doesn't make it DID.
The more I hear this person talk to themselves, the more I'm convinced it's just pretty good vocal control. Also speak to themselves like they're in a bad romance novel. And the entire backstory they've given themselves is extremely gross and unsettling.
Wait did you think this was real at one point?
@@xythrial no, I'm just open to the possibility that vocal manipulation might not be the only thing they're doing
12 yo me would be EATING this stuff up just for the sake of a ship
i don't get why lol
I think you're giving this way too much credence.
Edit: I'm sorry, if my husband told me our miscarried baby was now his new love... WTF
there's a reason why they're giving them 'too much credence.'
because michelle isn't an asshole that jumps to conclusions without contemplating it first. of course, it may be most likely they're faking it, but it's GOOD to contemplate and think about the circumstances of TSOB.
My sister actually does have most of those conditions, except for tourettes, and its an f-ing nightmare, for her and our family. Sucks ass, would never film her having her episodes. Its scary.
I have them all and I spent most of my teens unable to attend school like a normal person, and spents months in psych wards. I was constantly in and out hospitals until I 22. I feel secondhand embarrassment watching this person
@@matthewfranklin2137 i can't imagine how it must feel having your real struggles being made a mockery like this. i hope you're feeling better nowadays! 💛
@@ty11717 2024 was the first year since I was 16 I didn’t go to the psych ward! I am doing so much better, but still cannot work or function in society the way I should be. I’ve accepted it and aim to improve what I can because I know my level of CPTSD is going to affect me for life. I live on disability and rely on those around me to survive. Just a few more reasons this person is genuinely disgusting. People with these conditions combined are outcasts in society and constantly face abuse seeking out help. She just makes my blood boil
For real tho. I think this "two souls" chick is a hack, but her saying those conditions are unlikely to occur together is incredibly inaccurate. Trauma breaks the brain in more ways then one. Most people with one mental disorder usually have others as a comorbidity.
yea i have loved ones with these conditions (not all in one person, but still) and it's?? NOT fun n games. it's awful for them
they make such a mockery of mental illnesses that have made my school life living hell and its just so demoralizing
I'm out of school but my brother just started highschool and he says there's so many kids who claim to have tics, tourettes, DID, schizophrenia, the whole shabang. All at only 14 years old.
U don't have it either come on now
@@jessesinclair3642they didn’t even specify
@@jessesinclair3642dude stfu you don’t even know this person leave them alone jesus christ
@@jessesinclair3642 whatever you say pookie bear
This person was on vine doing Owen Wilson impersonations, which is the same as the ‘James’ voice
The clip of them "talking" back and forth reminds me of that scene in Spiderman when William Dafoe is discovering that hes the green goblin and talking to himself in the mirror 💀
Willem Dafoe at least looked like he believed in the characters of Norman Osbourne and the Green Goblin, whatever this is, is not believable in the least. They are shite at acting.
It makes my whole entire body physically sick watching her act like this.
they drastically change the voice but share the exact same quirky body/face language. you think theyd at least stop raising their brows all crazy.
That’s just it, they don’t realize how much of an over actor they are. The exaggerated facial expressions are common in bad acting. This isn’t a conversation between two people, it’s someone playing characters.
imagine hearing your roommate crying in bed, mournfully playing the banjo every night
Ive seen someone say that this would've been a cool creative project. Instead, they claim DID. From what I know DID RARELY just has 2 alters. Its usually a group thay helps take care of the body.
2 alters is actually more common than you think. Most systems were just 2 alters at some point, and some never expand past that. Otherwise you're correct :'o
@@neetidols I didn't know that, thank you! For myself, I do not have two alters, I have quite a few. I believe I left my whole paragraph explaining myself on their wonderland video from not too long ago. If I find it I'll repost it under here.
"I am undiagnosed DID. I dont post about it, I dont tell people, its something that I live with. Only my fiancé and best friend know.
I used to question all the time if my DID is just "oh I LOVE creating characters and role playing, so its just me daydreaming in my head".
I genuinely believe its more than that. I dont dictate what the "characters" say. I dont have control over them in that way.
I barely know anything about my innerworld. Im a front stuck host. The only time Ive been in the innerworld is when I went into dormancy, which was only a few times.
Some of my alters are brain made, and they dont have a source. But something I feel as though I would get fake claimed for is that most of my alters are from some kind of source. Such as MHA, Hazbin, Sander Sides, Blues Clues, Dora, etc.
One of my alters is Dora from Dora the Explore. She formed when I was younger, around 5/6. I didnt know about her existence until a few months ago (I realized I was a system in 2020).
She is like her source. She acts like Dora from the early seasons of the show. She is specially a mood booster. She doesnt front, but from what Im aware she helps younger children in the innerworld.
Another alter that split a few months ago was Alastor from Hazbin Hotel. He does not act like his source. He fronts a few times a week, his sorta a co-host? He helps me do tasks when I mentally shut down and can not do anything. He helps me get things done when I can not.
I currently live in my home with my biological family. I constantly feel stuck in fight or flight, and I split fragments often.
I have a lot of alters, old and new. I dont even know the extent of my alters, my innerworld, and what goes on in there.
I do know my system is safe, which I know is NOT common for people with DID. I dont have malicious alters who want to do harm. I have some trauma holders who act out, such as one of our Bakugo alters, but they want to protect me. With help, hes calmed down and works through that anger he has daily.
I feel as though I am faking my DID since I dont show symptoms, it doesnt affect my daily life.
If anything has any suggestions to help or have any questions, please comment. 🩷🩷"
My repost of my comment from their Wonderland video
some systems can have less actually. though there’s always a possibility of undiscovered guys
Yah but if it was a creative project people could have criticisms of the acting
I was diagnosed with DID. I do not have it.
I think this huge surge of people taking about it is good, when it’s educating people. But some lazy/bad doctors are also seeming to take part in it.
She didn’t even tell me she was diagnosing me with it, it was just on my paperwork after an appointment. It caused a lot more issues than it fixed since I was dealing with really bad ptsd, and dissociating a lot. I was trying to get help for something I didn’t actually have and kind of went into a weird state of psychosis. Once I was removed from the dangerous environment I was in, and began having a healthy diet with support from loved ones, it just went away. I talked to my new doctor about it and they were shocked by my experience, removing it from my diagnosis.
I thankfully never posted about it online, but I told friends and it was so embarrassing having to come out and be like “heeeey- crazy story.”
Edit: okay it didn’t go away, it never will. But I am able to manage it in a way that makes life more manageable and I’m recovering
❤ the last words in the edit.
And your experience with the doctor is horrible. That doc should lose the license for such misconduct and disregard of caring for the correctness of the diagnosis.
What a quack.
Sorry you had such an exceptionally bad doctor. Just reading about it was shocking to me.
@@willischwabe1324 thank you for your compassion
I've had to ask doctors to correct things they've written on my charts purely because it could lead to me not getting accurate care in the future (and make it more difficult for me to manage the symptoms I do have) and it fucking sucks. So many times doctors make snap judgments without ACTUALLY discussing things with the patient. If they suspect the patient has a certain condition, they absolutely should ask more questions to see if the symptoms actually line up with the diagnostic criteria for something. I'm glad you have been able to find some balance and I hope it will be even easier to manage in the future!
IM SORRY!? HES IN LOVE WITH HIS MISCARRIED DAUGHTER? That’s it. Someone please get them 51-50’d, there is something severely wrong with them.
Ngl… I miss Jessie and James at this point… at least that was just a woman playing pretend with her imaginary bf. Not… whatever THIS is.
As someone who’s neurodivergent and also mentally ill, I 100% would have believed this person as a preteen/teenager just from how they’re explaining things, trying to be perceived as truthful and keeping it going for so long. I had a best friend who was a compulsive liar so it was easy for me to believe things. I feel so bad for all the people they’ve deceived with what they’re doing. I definitely feel like they have problems but DID is definitely not one of them. Thank you for covering this, I’m still so shocked that there’s more stuff to come out about twosoulsonebod
YES !
this smells of an individual who is infiltrating into unstable, trauma affected, "open minded" superficially informed by misleading and echo chambered communities drunk on dunning krueger, empathy centered individuals, especially youth popular topics,, a safe from sexx romanticization of heterosexuality
im seeing a cult leader building a following.. i have ba and ma in psychology
My whole thing is: if they're truly in the same body, sharing the same brain, then why do they have to speak out loud to hear and understand each other?
This!!!! I have DID. Sometimes we communicate by speaking out loud, but we are much better at communicating with*out* speaking out loud.
I am not an expert in this matter but do have a pretty significant interest in neuroscience and the mechanics of the brain. Though we still don’t understand a lot of neurological mapping and which areas are responsible for what we do have a general understanding. I’m willing to wager that if someone was to conduct a working fMRI of their brain, if what they claim is true you’d see it in a scan somehow. For instance we can see when someone feels certain ways about another person based on which areas of the brain light up. Professionals would be able to see if something different was happening in their brain. It’s too bad fMRIs are so expensive and used almost exclusively for research and serious cases. We’d be able to understand what exactly is happening in cases like these a bit better. Provided they’re willing to take an fMRI. Something tells me they’d back out for one reason or another.
Okay they’re fake af but 1. They’re talking to a camera the way anyone who makes tiktoks does in their free time, 2. People often talk to themselves to solidify their thoughts.
But...
@@MermaidMakes i would volunteer for research but i think it would be beneficial to have a pool of people.
It's PAINFULLY obvious that she's faking
This is a wild way to hate yourself for being trans, she’s truly wild
are they trans?
Very interested in this take pls elaborate
which is weird, cause it'd be more 'acceptable' to just openly be trans. all this "two souls one body" thing he's doing is just attention-seeking.
Yoooo right?!
No gender based body dysphoria no trans
I think what really stands out to me is that here we have a parent supposedly giving up their body so their child can exist in it...and that is just the plot of Steven Universe. And they were wearing a Steven Universe shirt in one of the videos, which is just really...hmm. I cant help but think that this is a lonely person who wants attention so badly that they invented a little OC by using little pieces of fiction they like a lot, and instead of making it into a story they made it their 'real' life. While this is cringe, its more sad than anything.
They contradict themselves and change their story based on people's reaction wayyyy too frequently for me to believe them. Maybe there's some sort of mental thing going on with them but I honestly think this is for clout, which in a way could mean they do really have something wrong with them to where they're seeking out this sort of attention but I'm not a doctor. I think them faking having DID is disgusting tho
I'm not a doctor... but... this screams Histrionic personality disorder
As a person with HPD and OSDD1b [a type of D.I.D.], absolutely
What’s that?
Googled it and yeah, those symptoms do align pretty well.
@@prestonthebeston1735 OSDD-1b is not a “type” of DID.
yea that. yeaaaap. paired with psychosis, maybe
i couldve never guessed the switch to aliens, but it makes a lot of sense
Honestly she should have STARTED with aliens. At least that way they aren't spreading medical misinformation and they could claim they're "acting" without backlash.
1:31 with peace and love /gen this isn't how percentages work.
like, for instance, numbers vary, but the percentage of adults with ADHD is ~5% and the percentage of adults with PTSD is ~4%. if you treat this as simple math, then that would mean that the percentage of adults with both ADHD and PTSD is 0.2% (two people for every thousand)
however, PTSD and ADHD are comorbid. Posttraumatic stress disorder in adult attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder: clinical features and familial transmission (Antshel et al) showed that 10% of adults with PTSD had ADHD (of the sample size of course).
in a hypothetical group of one thousand people, 50 people would have ADHD. and if 10% of those with ADHD have PTSD, then that would be five of every thousand.
i know this seems nit picky but even with those two illnesses, the difference in the basic math vs. taking comorbidity into account is 2x+ greater.
for instance, i have (professionally diagnosed) hEDS and POTS. EDS percentages are about 0.02% for the adult population (two people for every ten thousand). POTS is estimated to be about 0.2% of the adult population (two people for every thousand). If you just multiply the two, you get 0.00004%...(four in every ten million people)
EXCEPT that doesn't account for the fact that EIGHTY PERCENT of people with hEDS have POTS. so you end up really looking at 0.016% (1.6 people for every ten thousand)
To visualize that:
basic math: 4 people in Michigan have both hEDS and POTS.
math when taking comorbidity into account: 1,600 people in Michigan have both hEDS and POTS.
that is a MASSIVE difference.
the reason i bring this up is that there's this false idea that the more "rare" conditions you have, the less likely you are to be "real." when in reality, if you have something rare it's likely that you have other conditions that are equally strange.
i'm not saying this to justify this account though LOL.
(and if i forgot to carry a decimal point somewhere please let me know...if i'm cringe i want to be at least cringe but correct) /lh
I hate math but this was really interesting, you explained in a way that was easy to understand and i thank you for that 👍
I really appreciate this comment! Thanks for taking the time to be so robust :)
right? that was the only point of the video I was a little confused because that percentage seemed thrown out there without a source 😅😅
You're really out here doing God's work, I tried to explain it without doing the math but then I scroll down and find this
2:37 WTAF? That's....that's...that's not DID. Like ..that's a fantasy story. WTAF? That is ... Do these people have HPD??
right?? its just so weird to me especially since they only ever talk about those two alters. im not super duper educated on did but im pretty sure most symptoms have more then one alter at some poing especially with the trauma they described
Definitely histrionic and/or narcissistic lol
It's like me writing a comment and then responding to myself, pretending to be "the other personality".
Like... what's the point of texting with myself, other than for show?
When you can't find the right kind of obnoxious pretentious edgelord to date so you just have to make one up in your head and date yourself. 😔
Literally me in middle school😂
12:00 so embarrassing 😭 thats not how thc effects your system
Took the words out of my mouth!
the squinted eyes...i cant its so cringe imma need some smoked hams
@@kc4505the term "smoked hams" alone is so childish, and the behaviour is like someone who's never been high trying to emulate what they think it's like c,:
It's kind of fascinating, how people who pretend to be something they are not, always resort to the utmost primitive stereotypes one could imagine.
It's the equivalent to putting on a paper mask with a rubber band attached, to make people believe you are actually totally a different person for real (nobody will ever suspect a thing!)
Hmmm.. they discovered they were multiple people when they were 22? Isn't that when most psychotic disorders begin showing symptoms?
One of my friends figured out that they are a system and they are in their early 20s, it can take some people a long time to figure things out and to accept it. Im not calming this is what happened here but it can happen
@@yuricore004 Agreed, I found out I was a system in my early 20's, although looking back I can definitely see moments where I didn't act as 'myself' and simply wasn't aware of it or what that was.
Now everybody these days is a system
@@Monikamusic02official I think that's partially because of spreading awareness and recognizing the disorder as a valid psychological phenomenon and not some scary mystery that definitely means you'll be locked away in a psyche ward, but unfortunately there's also a lot of impressionable and irresponsible people that want to hop on the 'trend' and seem 'quirky' and 'unique' when they don't realize how deeply it impacts day to day living.
I myself when first finding out I had DID was afraid and confused and worried that I was just faking it, that I'd convince myself I had this illness but then it would spontaneously go away within a month or so. But years later I still live with it and have experienced moments of distress where I'm not sure where or who I am.
Awareness and understanding is good and important but the process of diagnosis or even realization that one has a certain psychological disorder takes a long time.
@chronicsheepdeprivation8441
Wow thank you for that thorough comment. Totally get it and 100% agree with you in all points.
I also feel this is happening with the lgbtq+ community. While I know it's not a choice for many, including my brother, kids have taken it as a dad. Like it's the cool thing to be these days and I hate it because it makes it trivial when it's not. But I get what you're saying..
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26:28 About their voice switching-- She's trans, and has either had voice training lessons or has practiced it a lot herself, so she can go between the voices fairly easily. This isn't all that uncommon of a talent, although it is certainly an impressive skill that can be incredibly well-refined, like in this case. For another example of this, check out the monster called The Unknown from Dead by Daylight-- this is a shape-shifting body-snatcher type creature has a masculine and feminine voice provided by voice actress Zoey Alexandria, who was a professional "Transvoice" teacher and thus has a very similar ability to switch between two distinct voices at will.
As much as I don't believe TwoSoulsOneBod and don't condone ANY of the actions they've done, I respect how you talk about them in this video. You explore the possibilities of there being two souls in one body and mildly entertaining their claims. It's like a breath of fresh air to watch someone talk about a bad situation by fully exploring both sides and letting the audience decide what side to be on
11:52 why does she have to announce “I am going to do this thing where I pass it to you”? Looks very much like a performance for the camera to me.
2:37 Jesus, this just sounds like slowly realizing your trans with many, MANY extra steps...
Crazy thing is that she's AMAB and fully transitioned before her "D.I.D. diagnosis"
12:39 this is so painful to watch 😫
Narcissus wouldn't just be proud, he'd be jealous that he didn't come up with this utter degeneracy.
Like, that is an entirely different level.
Ancient Greek storytellers would rip out their eyes in rage that they didn't have that idea first.
The whole "was diagnosed" thing is complete bs. No one is gonna diagnose someone in 1 session. I actually wonder if that person actually is a licensed phycologist at all. I've often wondered if it was a friend or something playing along. Even if they were a professional someone that has been faking DID kinda knows what to say when answering questions. That's why a diagnosis like this, especially one that has been so "trendy" recently would need months if not years of therapy and analysis to see if they really have it. Any professional work their salt isn't gonna just say..."I've only seen you once, you've never had childhood trauma, this isn't how DID normally presents, the switches aren't exhausting, traumatic or stressful and can be controlled and the timing is off... but you say you have alters, so you have DID. Let's call it a day". If he truly was a real professional I really question everything about them. They are a hack and the board should be looking at them more closely.
It would be hilarious if the psychologists full name would be: Microsoft Sam
i will literally pay money to never see them kiss again
this is kind of off topic, but i really appreciate how you dont mock others spiritual beliefs just because they fall out of the norm, not many creators do that (even though they absolutely should) and it just proves how great of a creator you are.
one thing i’ll put here, not that i’m ENTIRELY convinced twosouls is faking DID (im like 80-90%) but something i see a TON with people who fake DID (an example i can think of is the wonderland system, and many others) is people who *really think* they have DID, when in reality they maladaptive daydream. i maladaptive daydream, i have a dissociative disorder, but not DID. i’ve gone through a ton of trauma and a lot of the time that can cause maladaptive daydreaming, and, when you don’t know the difference, a lot of times the combo of having oc’s, and maladaptive daydreaming can make someone like this say “oh! this is DID!!” when it very clearly is not. i can’t really explain what maladaptive daydreaming with dissociation is like, but if you daydream as you being those other people, those oc’s, i can see maybe how someone uneducated on DID would think that. dunno if that made a ton of sense but that’s my two cents, not a medical professional.
she needs to stay off the internet forever 😭
this really makes me sad… i’m very traditional Canadian indigenous and in my TRADITIONAL culture there is a term of Two-Spirit. I feel like this is a continuation of the erasing of indigenous history…. I identify with Two-Spirit and I also identify as Non-binary. So watching this … just.. gives me a deep sadness (sorry if this didn’t make sense i am currently on hams bc this makes me sad)
i was thinking the same thing!
This has nothing to do with two-spirit. This is talking about faking a mental illness. Two-spirit is not a mental illness…
What’s two spirit?/genq
@@prestonthebeston1735 Hi! Alaskan native here!
it’s actually a very cool way to describe someone who have both masculine and feminine spirits. In laymen’s terms, a cultures way of explaining non binary queer people!
Some, but not all, indigenous cultures hold people who are two spirits in a high regard.
Hope that helps! And obviously If the original commenters culture differs, listen to them as well!
@@jessied4105 oh, that’s really cool! I’m gonna use a totally different thing as an example, but is it sort of a gated term? Like how xenopronouns are used exclusively by neurodivergent people to describe their different ways of dealing with gender?
to me they sound exactly like when you used to play with your dolls and voiced both parties of a conversation, and i think they believe it in a way where they played with the thought that this would be fun or comforting for so long they developed a sort of pseudo self to talk to but i don't think they have DID or two souls (i do believe in souls, aliens, all that sort of stuff)
She could honestly just have done voice acting! It’s impressive how much control she has over her voice. Anywayyyys, I believe in some pretty “out there” and metaphysical things. I have seen some even crazier things that have no known explanation but I’m still quite skeptical here. Honestly I bet she’s not the worst person on this earth but this is extreeeeemely difficult to watch and see at times because it comes off instinctively as funky.
She’s LITERALLY a voice actress. I’m so tired.
@@alijane6675 well I didn’t know, 🙃, now I know.
Whenever I see the name twosoulsonebod I think about that cottage core lesbian Barbie movie where they sing that song “two voices one song”
🎶 together we dream the same dream 🎶
Unfortunately i immediate thing two girls one cup.
The Mourning Dove love making interruption 😂
I watched your original video about this person because you were debunking their behavior and how people fake disorders on tiktok with obvious acting skills for clout, so why is this update taking them so seriously?
my personal thought is that she’s being more respectful to further her point, after all just dogging on tsob has no real impact without cross references
She should just claim to be "mentally unwell", no one would dispute that
Therapist: "It's over; You're safe.... we can forget about TwoSoulsOneBod, and try to move on with your life now."
Michelle mfcken Mana:
Hahahaha I've tourettes and i would be SO happy when i could say "okay two more times!" tic tic - over. It's not how tourette works. :( and i feel very sad about this representation of everything from her.
Dunno what to say anymore
SHES A VOICE ACTOR. Tell me that’s not seriously a red flag??
Normally I don't comment under videos but wanted to bring up how similar their "psychologist's" inflection and general way of speaking is to their own. If I needed to fake video proof that I was diagnosed with something I would also record myself and then voice over the video to make it seem like a psychologist is talking to me about my diagnosis.
I thought this too!
This "story" behind everything is even more disturbing and gross
Totally comes off as psychosis more than anything else. Edit: ESPECIALLY after hearing she experimented with psychedelics. As a system, acid was pretty nightmarish at times for us and the rapid switching alone was completely exhausting. We all felt like a damn rubix cube and had a pretty severe episode of psychosis after. Obviously not the case for everyone, but her obsession with the spirituality of what she originally called a mental disorder is very weird. In psychosis, all your delusions feel so real so I don't think they are doing this with the intent of faking and damaging the DID community.
Shes a trained vocal actress. She doesn’t have DID.
I think blending new age religion with science is really disengeneous of them and tbh it feels like a deliberate attempt to deflect from the fact that mental health professionals 'don't know what's going on with them' and they don't fit the vast majority of DID symptoms.
Edit: I would like to hear her play the banjo or guitar and I bet she can probably sing with her voice acting skills too - I'm kinda sad she's chosen this way to get attention.
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This seems like feeling so lonely you act like your dream person is inside you and loving you so much. Their conversations sound like lines from some cringe romantic movie. And the explanations sound like they don’t know now how to reveal that they’ve just created it out of loneliness so they’re digging a grave so deep its impossible to go back
I've astral projected, but only seeing myself from above, and I was tripping balls. 😂
They think they’re a Steven universe fusion with that talking switch xd
God, I wish I had this much time on my hands to make up elaborate lore about myself like this.
This is so weird on so many levels 😭😭 like wdym you’re dating your 15 yr old daughter!?!!?!
I think this person (and other people who fake DID) might not realise they're allowed to act like two people without pretending to actually be two people. You don't have to limit yourself to one consistent persona and say you're another soul/alter when you want to be something else. I feel for them, they must feel a great sense of lack in order to compensate in such an elaborate way.
Also The Pearl shirt, Love Like You in one of their tiktoks, them saying "show the world something entirely new"... They just want to be Garnet from Steven Universe... Bro me too but some things we can never have!!
Wait, Tristan and Anika? What happened to Jessie and James? Did I miss a chapter?
Jessie and James is kinda a stage name
In the last video it was mentioned they rebranded
they mention it in the beginning of the video
Being potentially a good voice actor 👎
being a weird narcissist 👍
theyre literally just taking the concept from the game beyond two souls and changing it from a twin who died in the womb to a miscarried child
7:23 how can *they* have a conversation?? If one is basically unconscious when the other is "fronting"?
That’s basically the point immediately afterwards. It’s impossible for such to happen.
Unimportant side note, but something small that bugs me is that they clearly have talent with the voice switching thing and that would likely be popular on tiktok on its own. They didn’t really need to create this messed up, damaging persona for tiktok fame. They could have made skits or just shown off their impressive voice skills.
Jeffery Mishlove should probably not be regarded as a DID specialist or even a reliable doctor. He has "the only doctoral diploma in parapsychology ever awarded by an accredited university". Parapsychology is all about psychic phenomenon, and Mishlove's career is all about being a media personality, not a doctor. Because he believes in parapsychology, he will absolutely not evaluate "real" disorders in order to favor his own parapych solutions. The problem is, grifters like people are just close enough to legit that they can use their primary skills (read: sales) to have very very loud voices on social media, covering more established research.
Beautifully stated.
girl my autistic ahh cannot stop laughing at the alien in 28:03 😭😭
every time i have to sit through those tik toks, i can feel mold growing in my
brain
all i commented was "i need to know what meowth's rebrand is"
This bish got a damn theater degree and said they're just gonna rewrite what DID is based on spiritual soul theory for fun on the internet lmFAOO
Did the math. It would be less than 64 people in the ENTIRE WORLD who would have all their mental issues. In other words, impossible.
I have Tourette's in physical tics, and that's definitely not how it works.
This just feels like they saw fusion from steven universe and decided that was them. Especially the "something entirely new" comment and the steven universe music in their videos.
I love this video, other than the ai generated stock footage at 21:10 😭😭😭
Me in my bedroom when I was 12
MH/SUD worker here....
I do know individuals who do rapid change without the exhausting aspect plaguing them. I can talk to 4 people in the span of 15 minutes. More like they are constantly co-con.
With that said, in my opinion and not a diagnosis - this individual does not have DID but some other sort of other MH diagnosis
Babe couldve just said she’s happy to be single instead of being super weird about it
Not to undiagnose but their favorite show is steven universe which is either an influence or just a coincidence. The themes in the show are about 2 people sharing 1 body. It was made by a nonbinary person to explore these themes of identity and love. Given their name is inspired by star trek It's interesting that their identity mirrors so much from steven universe. The character Garnet in the show is literally two people in love living in 1 body.
Glad to see someone who doesn't shoot down self-diagnosis out of hand (access issues are REAL), but acknowledged that by taking on the burden of diagnosis, we also take on the possibility of misdiagnosis
I'm sorry, but the transplanted alien-in-a-human reveal is so weirdly like a major plot point in the anime Birdy the Mighty it's a definitely hard to swallow. Granted, in the anime the human "died" because the alien accidentally punched him to death, so she hosts his mind in her body while his body is getting fixed, but like..... It's just odd. The show is even a guy and girl pair, but granted it's way less creepy than whatever is happening here.