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Nobody asked for an uninspiring, Unreliable Full size pickup with a V6 that sounds like a vaccuum cleaner and looks like Hulk Hogans face. Failed Redesign and electronic nightmare. I hope the Woke Execs at Toyota take the fall for this mess. Thanks for nothing Mike Sweers Long live the IForce 5.7 V8!
Toyota is not woke...the government forcing them to go down this road. If it weren't for the government, we could have proper and higher quality Japanese made pickups...but we get what we vote for I guess.
You were so right with your warning. I purchased two Tundra TRD Pros in 2021. One Lunar Rock and one Magnetic Grey which I intend to keep forever. The trucks were manufactured at the pinnacle of the 2nd Generation Tundra’s production cycle. Toyota and Lexus have destroyed their loyal fan base following with their terrible decision to move away from naturally aspirated V8 and V6 engines throughout their vehicle lineup. I am sorry to hear about your father and your dog. That is terrible news. Thanks for creating great video content!
You're nor lying. I have a 2016 Tundra Crewmax with 117,000 miles and I can't tell you how many times I get next gen owners trying to buy it from me. No way. She may drink gas like a lush but it's never been in the shop for ANYTHING!
I have a Nissan Titan and its my 2nd one and I would stack it up to any Tundra. I owned 2 Toyota trucks and the best one I had was a 1980 5 speed. The other one was a 2006 Tundra, which was well built. Took that all over the country hunting and fishing. But I have to say the Titan puts out a better product, and it gives a 5 year 100k mile bumper to bumper warranty. How can you beat that? Good luck Fan Boys , I think the party's over😢😢😢
Bought my '17 5.7 brand new.. its a keeper . New generation with their Over complicated drivetrains will be a nightmare not only now but 10yrs down the road.
My ford eco boost was awful. Timing chains replaced after 55k miles. Due to the timing chain replacement they reused the oil pan and it was leaking oil. Not supposed to reuse the oil pan. And electric cars are bad? Now driving a Tesla model 3
Not a fan of electric, it takes to long to charge them for how many miles you get to drive afterwards. Especially if you are running the ac, headlights and other accessories at the same time.
Toyota Reliability is down next to Ford right now... People.. if you have older vehicles keep them and fix them... This is all Junk .. Now the new Tacoma transmissions are overheating when you do " Truck Things" ok forgive me for thinking you buy a truck to do truck things.... This is how you piss truck people off.
Had so many problems with my 2019 F150 ecoboost that I traded it in this year for a certified 2021 Tundra Limited Nightshade and couldn't be happier. Last year of the best generation
Still gonna keep my 17 Tundra Platinum with 67K miles. Bought it in 2019 as a Certified Tundra with only 3,500 miles. No issues yet. Still on the stock brakes 👍😎
I wouldn’t take that junk either! I will keep my gas guzzling 5.7 tundra and 4.0 4runner until they die. I drive tundra like an old man and average 17-18mpg in the 1200 miles I drove it so far. I think that’s great but worse than my 06 Chevy 5.3 with 114k but not by much. Tundra is a 20 with 27k miles now. 4Runner avg 20-21. If one wants gas mileage get a damn car!
@@deverafam6676 Yea, if that engine actually works and doesn’t blow like the others. Toyota has also been known to not have fixes for a very long time. I don’t trust these new V6 engines. I told people not to buy them when they were coming out.
I just loved the fact that i wasn't the only one rolling around town with 13.4 mpg precisely. I read a article where we're actually getting closer to 16. Because the mpg tracking system is always less than actual for whatever reason
It’s been happening a few weeks now since the bearing issue went public. Toyota has not issued a fix yet. Despite what Toyota said the 24s are having the same issue.
Traded my 5.7 Tundra in for a F250. Twice the truck as the Tundra and not one issue. 4000 pound payload and fit 37” tires without any modifications. The Tundra I had leaky cam towers after 20k and had a serious rust issue. Toyota replaced both of my chrome bumpers under warranty but the underneath was a lost cause.. and no I don’t drive in salt. Also the paint on the Tundra was terrible thin and soft and scratched just looking at it. The Tundra also couldn’t haul a load of multch without a Carolina squat and towing my travel trailer and boat was sketch. Never thought I’d jump ship but the HD truck has exceeded all of my expectations plus more. I’ll probably never buy another Toyota unless they start offering a naturally aspirated V8 and a truck capable of truck things.
@@Eyez85 iv owned 2 ford trucks. Both were in the shop all the time. One almost got me killed because of the inter cooler. They are why i bought a Toyota. I will never own another ford for the rest of my life. I don’t care if they give me a million mile warranty. They didn’t stand behind the 100,000 mile warranty I bought with my second one. They just told me they couldn’t fix it and it was mine to do with it what I wanted. So I did, I traded it for a Toyota.
@@gearrunner yep I wouldn’t buy any turbo vehicle if I could avoid it, esp. a F150. I think everybody has had a bad experience with a certain brand and hold a grudge. For me it’s Chevy and Toyota. Had two Silverado’s that were junk and trannys went out in less than 30k. However the new GM products are supposedly superior in todays market and there’s many that have never had an issue. Same with Ram, they have come a long ways. I’ll never own another Toyota based on my personal experience and based on the direction Toyota has gone unless something drastically changes and they learn to make an actual truck. In fact I’ll never own another half ton again as they to me don’t make sense. IMO The market should skip the half ton and only offer a mid size truck and a Full size truck. It’s funny all the truck talk. “Typical Dodge” “Junk Ford”. The truth is they are all junk and all going to fail. For me the F250 HD truck just has way more capabilities for my personal use and has been the best truck I’ve ever owned. Solid front axle, HD frame and components, aluminum body, payload, tow capabilities etc. etc. are for me. And it’s nice to purchase a stock truck from the factory that looks like a truck and already lifted and ready for large tires.
I've got a 2014 Tundra crewmax with 5.7. No issues. Don't care for the looks of the newer Tundra and sadly don't trust the engine to hold up to the loads I pull. Especially my 31 ft wellcraft. There not great on gas. Especially after lifting, but one hell of a truck..
@@gearrunner 2014 EB is running like a champ, it was one of the best years for the F150's. However, found out yesterday it has a recall that will go out to customers next month.
Still rolling in my 2020 TRD Pro Tundra, so glad I didn't fall for the hype on the new models. Now I see the new model Tacomas are having transmission issues.
@@Albert-777 - I wouldn't say "junk", probably still a better purchase than a Colorado or a Ranger for reliability/longevity, but it's more like growing pains. Another 2 yrs probably for them to get it right. I just feel bad for anyone that invested money and time into doing the R&D on these trucks for the first few years.
..... And this is why I bought my 21' 1794 crew cab. Well, this is one, but also it was retirement gift to myself. Besides, it only gets about 2 to 3 maybe 4 miles extra per gallon?? Nah, not for me. If I had to buy another truck, it will be either a 21' or older, or a Ford. Like you, I saw this coming. Makes Toyota look very bad. Nice to see you Andy, stay well brother.
2015 SR5 D/C TRD Offroad - 126K no issues Sorry for your loss. Lost my dad 3yrs ago now so I can relate. I took mine to the dealer for an oil change. They've been driving me nuts ever since wanting me to trade it in. So word of warning for all you 5.7 v8 Tundra owners.....don't let the dealers see your truck, HAHA
So Sorry for your loss of your dad and dog. I also agree with you on the direction Toyota is forced to go by are government regulations. Not fully Toyota fault I don't think. I figure they would have loved to have kept the NA engines. I also bought a 2024 Camry and Kept my 2017 Tundra 1794 Thanks for your content. You were Right
Gear my wife and I have been driving Toyota vehicles since 1975. We have owned 25 total. I currently have a 2021 Tundra TRD Sport, CrewMax 4X4 with the 5.7 liter dual overhead cam V-8, the last year of one of the best engines they have ever built. My wife has a 2023 4Runner Limited 2WD with the 4.0 V-6. I said the same thing you said about Toyota going to a V-6 dual turbo charged engine. Stupid, stupid, stupid. You could take the 5.7 V-8 hook it up with the new 10 speed transmission and change the rear gear from a 4.30 to say a 3.75 or 3.65. Then that V-8 Tundra would get BETTER mph than the overworked V-6 dual turbo charged that they have recalled at least 100,000 units!!!!! Same on the 4Runner. I thought the 2023 was going to be the last year for the 4.0 V-6 in it so we bought it a 2023. But they did make them for 2024 but will do like they have already done the Tacoma and have a 4 cylinder turbo charged and 4 cylinder hybrid with NO V-6 for 2025. The 4 cylinder only Tacoma trucks are NOT selling either. Toyota has lost the 1/2 ton truck market and are about to lose the mid size truck market that Tacoma used to control. Toyota has lost me as a customer! We will drive what we have and hope they wake up!!!!!!!1
My thoughts were exactly as yours when they announced they were killing the 5.7 V8 to replace with a TT V6. No way I was getting rid of my 2020 Platinum 4x4 for a 3rd gen that looks cheap and ugly, imo. Now those engines are failing. Changing topics, my sincere condolences on losing your dad and your dog. Unfortunately, the same happened to me recently and it’s not a good feeling!! Stay strong…
This v6 turbo trend is a government problem which forces mfg's to improve mpg on vehicles that aren't made for decent mpg...they are made for working, and Toyota isn't immune from pushing way too much through these smaller engines to replicate the power they had before. It didn't work in the 80's and it won't work now. Honda had tons of problems and is literally the worlds largest engine mfg, Kia does have issues, Ford is in a heap of hurt with the ecoboost etc. Dealerships are also having huge problems from the CDK (software that runs entire dealerships) being hacked so it is a crappy time for consumers and the car biz.
They did it for emissions. Not MPG. The climate condition crisis is only getting worst. I would say the government should update their lemon laws to cover purchases on these new hybrid vehicles.
@@Captain_V_Neck lol emissions and climate crisis…cmon man. And you are saying mpg is not part of that? So 18mpg is fine? Their v8’s are low emissions…very low according to the government testing. MPG is now what emissions were. Washington state got rid of emissions testing because everything is so clean now. I’m sure glad I don’t listen to people like you about what’s going on with the environment because you can’t even get this right.
The official story is that engine techs in two different factories in two different countries assembling the same engine just didn't do their jobs properly for two years (so far).
They are. They've had the same problem and there will be more as they put miles on em. IMO, Toyota didn't issue a recall on 24's because it would cause a force stop on sales. They don't have the man power to fix all these overnight, so they are staggering the recall, AND allowing sales to continue in the meantime.
A key issues with the new motors in the Tundra and Tacoma are related to manufacturing, not design. For most mall crawlers and weekend warriors, these motors will work fine once Toyota gets back to their manufacturing advantage. Don't understand how machining debris doesn't get cleaned out.
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Still have my 23 pro. No issue’s exempt the recalls but they were handled. Working to get new tires and the alignment recall done. Really like my truck.
There were some Ford Power Strokes that were duds a few years back. I worked at a Chevy dealer about 10 years ago and we wouldn’t touch those things with a 10 foot pole.
The issue has nothing to do with Turbos. What manufacturer doesn't have issue. Wish these videos would offer alternative to compare what they would prefer, and no we're not talking about purchasing al an old truck. What are options that are better then the new Tundras that you are slamming.
I hate to tell you but ford , Chevy etc will be going the same direction. With emissions and the government all trucks will be going to turbos, hybrids etc.
a dealer can totally sell a used vehicle with an open recall... they are forbidden in the US from selling new vehicles with an open recall. The issue is the open recall is a bad selling point.... people don't want to buy it, the dealer doesn't want the headache. They might have that trade in sitting for months, or have to send it to auction. Many larger dealers will take the Tundras, but they will offer you way way less than you think its worth to counter for all their problems they'll have with it. Its best to hold onto them for now until the recall is completed.
I know people are not happy with the new Toyota tundra, engine failures but in reality, these twin turbos are here to stay like it or not it goes with the same with the 2.4 L turbo in the Tacoma as well but we all know that won’t last as long as the naturally aspirated V6 and V8 engines that Toyota engineers built in the past it all boils down to EPA regulations and fuel economy
Even when they come up with a fix that it's going to be a total nightmare. If there's any chance at all at getting out of this vehicle, make sure to do it now
They are putting new engine in the trucks from what I hear. I know of a few channels where they go over the recall or TSB informations for the repairs. I know pick up truck plus suv with Tim has a segment dedicated to just this issue.
2010…Toyota had 200,000 motor recalls on 4.6L V8. Today that engine is considered bulletproof. I think Toyota will eventually get it right like they always do but this is definitely a bad look
I did watch Tim's video, I don't recall excatly what he said but I don't believe this is enitrly correct. My understanding, under Title 49 of the US code there is a section that this fall under. It applies to new vehicles coming off the assemnbly line. Those cannot be sold with a defect like this. Used vehicles are completely different story. I've heard Toyota has requested dealers not sell them but if they do they are required to advise the buyers of the situation.
Legally or not, no dealer wants to try to sell a vehicle with an unresolved recall. I'd be interested in meeting a buyer that puts down tens of thousands of dollars on a vehicle that has an unresolved engine recall.
I've been a Ford guy my whole life but recently bought my first Toyota. I bought a 2020 Tundra SR5 TRD Sport Crewmax. I wanted the Tundra for its reliability, and I chose the 2020 because I wanted the V8. I also think the older Tundra's look better than the new ones. My only complaint is that the seats are uncomfortable on long trips compared to my F150. I get complaints from the passenger that they feel like they are sliding forward in their seat all the time? It is not a power seat, so I'm limited on seat adjustments. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix? Great video!
I have a 2017 gmc sierra over a hundred grand on it have had no issues at all it has a 5.3 4x4 and yes full Size trucks need a v8 plain and simple my brother had a 5.7 tundra ran beautiful
Everything dealers are doing (or not doing) with regard to the new Tundra's makes perfect sense from their point of view (and mine). Once this bearing/debris situation is taken care of things will go back to normal.
They haven't resolved the recall yet. No dealer in his right mind would want to try to sell a vehicle with an unresolved recall. Non Toyota dealers don't want the hassle of trying to get the trucks into Toyota when they do resolve the recall.
I have two 2023 models both with around 10,000 miles, running good so far knock on wood! Sr5, 1794, both non hybrid and both are leased though Toyota, this certainly has my attention, I guess I should have kept my old V8 model.😢
That’s interesting, wonder if they removed the transmission cooler in the new ones too? I think I heard they removed them in the 2019 and newer, older body style ones.
Potential Tacoma buyers are seeing what's happening with Toyota's other new turbo engine. TFL sold their "long term" 2024 Tacoma after about six months; I wonder squeezed them to stop testing the new design.
So sorry to hear of your recent losses.
Thank you
Nobody asked for an uninspiring, Unreliable Full size pickup with a V6 that sounds like a vaccuum cleaner and looks like Hulk Hogans face. Failed Redesign and electronic nightmare. I hope the Woke Execs at Toyota take the fall for this mess. Thanks for nothing Mike Sweers
Long live the IForce 5.7 V8!
Hulk Hogan's face🤣🤣
Toyota is not woke...the government forcing them to go down this road. If it weren't for the government, we could have proper and higher quality Japanese made pickups...but we get what we vote for I guess.
I listened to you. My 2018 SR5 Tundra is in my driveway as I type this. I owe ya big time.
That was a good decision. I wish Toyota would go back to the 5.7 but I doubt they ever will
@@gearrunnerat least as an option would be good.
Same here, still got my 2018 SR5 just crossed 30000 miles
Same… 2018 TRD 4x4 saying with me too
Toyota has a 3.3L Turbo Diesel V6 which should have been put in the Tundra but they won't bring it into US
You were so right with your warning. I purchased two Tundra TRD Pros in 2021. One Lunar Rock and one Magnetic Grey which I intend to keep forever. The trucks were manufactured at the pinnacle of the 2nd Generation Tundra’s production cycle. Toyota and Lexus have destroyed their loyal fan base following with their terrible decision to move away from naturally aspirated V8 and V6 engines throughout their vehicle lineup.
I am sorry to hear about your father and your dog. That is terrible news.
Thanks for creating great video content!
Thank you, and yea they will definitely lose loyal customers if they keep this up
You're nor lying. I have a 2016 Tundra Crewmax with 117,000 miles and I can't tell you how many times I get next gen owners trying to buy it from me. No way. She may drink gas like a lush but it's never been in the shop for ANYTHING!
I’m at 99,900 and no shop time yet! Just your typical service intervals.
Toyota is on a race straight to the bottom
I have a Nissan Titan and its my 2nd one and I would stack it up to any Tundra. I owned 2 Toyota trucks and the best one I had was a 1980 5 speed. The other one was a 2006 Tundra, which was well built. Took that all over the country hunting and fishing. But I have to say the Titan puts out a better product, and it gives a 5 year 100k mile bumper to bumper warranty. How can you beat that? Good luck Fan Boys , I think the party's over😢😢😢
How do you feel about Nissan killing off the Titan after this model year?
Keeping my 21 till it dies, ive modded it too much to get rid of her
Imagine buying a newer generation homely Tundra ... then finding out it's nowhere as reliable as the previous, attractive Tundras!
Bought my '17 5.7 brand new.. its a keeper . New generation with their Over complicated drivetrains will be a nightmare not only now but 10yrs down the road.
Very true
My ford eco boost was awful. Timing chains replaced after 55k miles. Due to the timing chain replacement they reused the oil pan and it was leaking oil. Not supposed to reuse the oil pan. And electric cars are bad? Now driving a Tesla model 3
Not a fan of electric, it takes to long to charge them for how many miles you get to drive afterwards. Especially if you are running the ac, headlights and other accessories at the same time.
@@gearrunner I completely understand the time of charging. It’s not a roadtrip car for sure.
I'm stupid too... I ran out and bought my '21 Tundra once I heard they were going to a TT V6.
Dealership begging for my 2015 4x4 off road when i take for oil change
Toyota Reliability is down next to Ford right now... People.. if you have older vehicles keep them and fix them... This is all Junk .. Now the new Tacoma transmissions are overheating when you do " Truck Things" ok forgive me for thinking you buy a truck to do truck things.... This is how you piss truck people off.
I knew this would happen like 3 years ago. Thats why i got a used no rust no accident, 2012 5.7 Fundra DC.
Very good call
Good to see u posting again about the tundra . But dealers don’t want them on trade . There losing money
Yea they are, there are a ton of new ones on lots around here
Lexus IS having the same problem
Thank you, I hadn’t heard anything about those
Lexus owns Toyota right? Or the other way around?
Had so many problems with my 2019 F150 ecoboost that I traded it in this year for a certified 2021 Tundra Limited Nightshade and couldn't be happier. Last year of the best generation
Well played. I bet you're happy especially after Ford recalling half a million trucks
I picked up a 2020 last year, no way I would I want a 22 & newer. 2020 may be my last truck I own.
My 2018 Tundra has plenty of power. If I ever need more, I'll get a 2500. Smaller engines with turbos are no bueno.
It's because toyota is not made in Japan now..
Nah, the old tundras were made in the states and they were great.
If your engine has a turbo, it wasn't made right to begin with.
I’ll keep my 5.7 but my 5.7 hemi 😂😂😂😂
Still gonna keep my 17 Tundra Platinum with 67K miles. Bought it in 2019 as a Certified Tundra with only 3,500 miles. No issues yet. Still on the stock brakes 👍😎
I wouldn’t take that junk either! I will keep my gas guzzling 5.7 tundra and 4.0 4runner until they die. I drive tundra like an old man and average 17-18mpg in the 1200 miles I drove it so far. I think that’s great but worse than my 06 Chevy 5.3 with 114k but not by much. Tundra is a 20 with 27k miles now. 4Runner avg 20-21. If one wants gas mileage get a damn car!
Keeping my 2021 forever
I’m sure glad I bought a 2022 Toyota Tundra. I’m getting a new engine replacement. Toyota proves to stand behind their product.
@@deverafam6676 Yea, if that engine actually works and doesn’t blow like the others. Toyota has also been known to not have fixes for a very long time. I don’t trust these new V6 engines. I told people not to buy them when they were coming out.
Keeping my 2019
Yea my 16 isn’t going anywhere
Your Tundra is now worth more than it was last year Gear.
I just loved the fact that i wasn't the only one rolling around town with 13.4 mpg precisely. I read a article where we're actually getting closer to 16. Because the mpg tracking system is always less than actual for whatever reason
It’s been happening a few weeks now since the bearing issue went public. Toyota has not issued a fix yet. Despite what Toyota said the 24s are having the same issue.
Traded my 5.7 Tundra in for a F250. Twice the truck as the Tundra and not one issue. 4000 pound payload and fit 37” tires without any modifications. The Tundra I had leaky cam towers after 20k and had a serious rust issue. Toyota replaced both of my chrome bumpers under warranty but the underneath was a lost cause.. and no I don’t drive in salt. Also the paint on the Tundra was terrible thin and soft and scratched just looking at it. The Tundra also couldn’t haul a load of multch without a Carolina squat and towing my travel trailer and boat was sketch. Never thought I’d jump ship but the HD truck has exceeded all of my expectations plus more. I’ll probably never buy another Toyota unless they start offering a naturally aspirated V8 and a truck capable of truck things.
@@Eyez85 iv owned 2 ford trucks. Both were in the shop all the time. One almost got me killed because of the inter cooler. They are why i bought a Toyota. I will never own another ford for the rest of my life. I don’t care if they give me a million mile warranty. They didn’t stand behind the 100,000 mile warranty I bought with my second one. They just told me they couldn’t fix it and it was mine to do with it what I wanted. So I did, I traded it for a Toyota.
@@gearrunner yep I wouldn’t buy any turbo vehicle if I could avoid it, esp. a F150. I think everybody has had a bad experience with a certain brand and hold a grudge. For me it’s Chevy and Toyota. Had two Silverado’s that were junk and trannys went out in less than 30k. However the new GM products are supposedly superior in todays market and there’s many that have never had an issue. Same with Ram, they have come a long ways. I’ll never own another Toyota based on my personal experience and based on the direction Toyota has gone unless something drastically changes and they learn to make an actual truck. In fact I’ll never own another half ton again as they to me don’t make sense. IMO The market should skip the half ton and only offer a mid size truck and a Full size truck. It’s funny all the truck talk. “Typical Dodge” “Junk Ford”. The truth is they are all junk and all going to fail. For me the F250 HD truck just has way more capabilities for my personal use and has been the best truck I’ve ever owned. Solid front axle, HD frame and components, aluminum body, payload, tow capabilities etc. etc. are for me. And it’s nice to purchase a stock truck from the factory that looks like a truck and already lifted and ready for large tires.
I've got a 2014 Tundra crewmax with 5.7. No issues. Don't care for the looks of the newer Tundra and sadly don't trust the engine to hold up to the loads I pull. Especially my 31 ft wellcraft. There not great on gas. Especially after lifting, but one hell of a truck..
Those V6 TT trucks will crap out pulling big loads those turbos will get crazy hot
Thanks, Gear. My 2008 5.7 with about 103,000 miles runs like a champ. I'm going to keep it for a while longer.
Yea my 16 isn’t going anywhere either
@@gearrunner 2014 EB is running like a champ, it was one of the best years for the F150's. However, found out yesterday it has a recall that will go out to customers next month.
im gettin 15 mpg... but i only haul minibikes and atvs
At least with all the QC and recall issues, the prices will go down like crazy and should be back to where what the trucks are actually worth.
Still rolling in my 2020 TRD Pro Tundra, so glad I didn't fall for the hype on the new models.
Now I see the new model Tacomas are having transmission issues.
Yeah,more new Toyota junk👎🏼
@@Albert-777 - I wouldn't say "junk", probably still a better purchase than a Colorado or a Ranger for reliability/longevity, but it's more like growing pains. Another 2 yrs probably for them to get it right. I just feel bad for anyone that invested money and time into doing the R&D on these trucks for the first few years.
@@303MoTo yeah I guess you right, I am just so disappointed with Toyota.
@@Albert-777- agreed, disappointed is a great way to state it.
..... And this is why I bought my 21' 1794 crew cab. Well, this is one, but also it was retirement gift to myself. Besides, it only gets about 2 to 3 maybe 4 miles extra per gallon?? Nah, not for me. If I had to buy another truck, it will be either a 21' or older, or a Ford. Like you, I saw this coming. Makes Toyota look very bad. Nice to see you Andy, stay well brother.
I think these decisions will hurt Toyota in the long run they will definitely start losing more and more customers
you did say technology ruins reliability
Yep and Toyota is proving it. 😂
2015 SR5 D/C TRD Offroad - 126K no issues
Sorry for your loss. Lost my dad 3yrs ago now so I can relate.
I took mine to the dealer for an oil change. They've been driving me nuts ever since wanting me to trade it in. So word of warning for all you 5.7 v8 Tundra owners.....don't let the dealers see your truck, HAHA
Should do class action
Agreed
So Sorry for your loss of your dad and dog. I also agree with you on the direction Toyota is forced to go by are government regulations. Not fully Toyota fault I don't think. I figure they would have loved to have kept the NA engines. I also bought a 2024 Camry and Kept my 2017 Tundra 1794 Thanks for your content. You were Right
Gear my wife and I have been driving Toyota vehicles since 1975. We have owned 25 total. I currently have a 2021 Tundra TRD Sport, CrewMax 4X4 with the 5.7 liter dual overhead cam V-8, the last year of one of the best engines they have ever built. My wife has a 2023 4Runner Limited 2WD with the 4.0 V-6. I said the same thing you said about Toyota going to a V-6 dual turbo charged engine. Stupid, stupid, stupid. You could take the 5.7 V-8 hook it up with the new 10 speed transmission and change the rear gear from a 4.30 to say a 3.75 or 3.65. Then that V-8 Tundra would get BETTER mph than the overworked V-6 dual turbo charged that they have recalled at least 100,000 units!!!!! Same on the 4Runner. I thought the 2023 was going to be the last year for the 4.0 V-6 in it so we bought it a 2023. But they did make them for 2024 but will do like they have already done the Tacoma and have a 4 cylinder turbo charged and 4 cylinder hybrid with NO V-6 for 2025. The 4 cylinder only Tacoma trucks are NOT selling either. Toyota has lost the 1/2 ton truck market and are about to lose the mid size truck market that Tacoma used to control. Toyota has lost me as a customer! We will drive what we have and hope they wake up!!!!!!!1
My thoughts were exactly as yours when they announced they were killing the 5.7 V8 to replace with a TT V6. No way I was getting rid of my 2020 Platinum 4x4 for a 3rd gen that looks cheap and ugly, imo. Now those engines are failing. Changing topics, my sincere condolences on losing your dad and your dog. Unfortunately, the same happened to me recently and it’s not a good feeling!! Stay strong…
This v6 turbo trend is a government problem which forces mfg's to improve mpg on vehicles that aren't made for decent mpg...they are made for working, and Toyota isn't immune from pushing way too much through these smaller engines to replicate the power they had before. It didn't work in the 80's and it won't work now. Honda had tons of problems and is literally the worlds largest engine mfg, Kia does have issues, Ford is in a heap of hurt with the ecoboost etc.
Dealerships are also having huge problems from the CDK (software that runs entire dealerships) being hacked so it is a crappy time for consumers and the car biz.
They did it for emissions. Not MPG. The climate condition crisis is only getting worst. I would say the government should update their lemon laws to cover purchases on these new hybrid vehicles.
@@Captain_V_Neck lol emissions and climate crisis…cmon man. And you are saying mpg is not part of that? So 18mpg is fine? Their v8’s are low emissions…very low according to the government testing.
MPG is now what emissions were. Washington state got rid of emissions testing because everything is so clean now.
I’m sure glad I don’t listen to people like you about what’s going on with the environment because you can’t even get this right.
Don’t understand why the 2024’s are not affected, but yet they do not have a fix for the problem?
Because they're sitting on dealer lots and need to be sold I'd imagine.
The official story is that engine techs in two different factories in two different countries assembling the same engine just didn't do their jobs properly for two years (so far).
They are. They've had the same problem and there will be more as they put miles on em. IMO, Toyota didn't issue a recall on 24's because it would cause a force stop on sales. They don't have the man power to fix all these overnight, so they are staggering the recall, AND allowing sales to continue in the meantime.
A key issues with the new motors in the Tundra and Tacoma are related to manufacturing, not design. For most mall crawlers and weekend warriors, these motors will work fine once Toyota gets back to their manufacturing advantage. Don't understand how machining debris doesn't get cleaned out.
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I wouldn’t trade my 2014 tundra with the off-road baggage crew max for a new one Got 75,000 miles never had a problem
Still have my 23 pro. No issue’s exempt the recalls but they were handled. Working to get new tires and the alignment recall done. Really like my truck.
There were some Ford Power Strokes that were duds a few years back. I worked at a Chevy dealer about 10 years ago and we wouldn’t touch those things with a 10 foot pole.
Why would anyone buy a new Tundra?
Ugly as 💩 too! JMO of course! 😁👍🏻
The issue has nothing to do with Turbos. What manufacturer doesn't have issue. Wish these videos would offer alternative to compare what they would prefer, and no we're not talking about purchasing al an old truck. What are options that are better then the new Tundras that you are slamming.
I hate to tell you but ford , Chevy etc will be going the same direction. With emissions and the government all trucks will be going to turbos, hybrids etc.
My 2012 Platinum has 303,000 miles and looks new and runs strong.
Have a 19 sr5 dc. Would not, could not pay these stupid prices for this next generation twin turbo
a dealer can totally sell a used vehicle with an open recall... they are forbidden in the US from selling new vehicles with an open recall. The issue is the open recall is a bad selling point.... people don't want to buy it, the dealer doesn't want the headache. They might have that trade in sitting for months, or have to send it to auction. Many larger dealers will take the Tundras, but they will offer you way way less than you think its worth to counter for all their problems they'll have with it. Its best to hold onto them for now until the recall is completed.
I know people are not happy with the new Toyota tundra, engine failures but in reality, these twin turbos are here to stay like it or not it goes with the same with the 2.4 L turbo in the Tacoma as well but we all know that won’t last as long as the naturally aspirated V6 and V8 engines that Toyota engineers built in the past it all boils down to EPA regulations and fuel economy
I bought my 2019 Tundra 4x4 when I knew they were coming out with a twin-turbo.
I'm loving my 2021 Tundra TRD Pro. No issues or recalls thank you very much!
You are very welcome, I could see these new ones would hurt Toyota in the long run
Even when they come up with a fix that it's going to be a total nightmare. If there's any chance at all at getting out of this vehicle, make sure to do it now
They are putting new engine in the trucks from what I hear. I know of a few channels where they go over the recall or TSB informations for the repairs. I know pick up truck plus suv with Tim has a segment dedicated to just this issue.
Yep he was the one the article was about. I feel bad for anyone that is in this position right now.
I think the value of my 2018 Limited is going up!
So glad I bought Silverado Bison whew.
Gonna drive this 2018 until me or it departs this life !
Anything with a turbo or twin turbo keep it IM GOOD
I went out and bought a natural 4Runner before it becomes a turbo.
2010…Toyota had 200,000 motor recalls on 4.6L V8. Today that engine is considered bulletproof. I think Toyota will eventually get it right like they always do but this is definitely a bad look
The difference is the gen 3 motor is 32k to replace. It’s basically an EV out of warranty won’t be worth it to fix if motor blows
Take to Carmax and stop complaint.
look at the transmission issues in the Tacoma as well lol
I'd give a buck three eighty for it. $
I really really hate to be right about this as well.
I did watch Tim's video, I don't recall excatly what he said but I don't believe this is enitrly correct. My understanding, under Title 49 of the US code there is a section that this fall under. It applies to new vehicles coming off the assemnbly line. Those cannot be sold with a defect like this. Used vehicles are completely different story. I've heard Toyota has requested dealers not sell them but if they do they are required to advise the buyers of the situation.
Either way they aren’t taking them in on trade
Legally or not, no dealer wants to try to sell a vehicle with an unresolved recall. I'd be interested in meeting a buyer that puts down tens of thousands of dollars on a vehicle that has an unresolved engine recall.
Opinion about 4gen Tacoma
I got a 2009 rock warrior that’s an absolute beast with the 5.7. Sad to see what’s going on with Toyota now.
My buddy has one of those trucks they are pretty awesome
Nice....those Rock Warrior wheels are worth almost as much as the rest of the truck, HAHA. They are fairly rare.
I've been a Ford guy my whole life but recently bought my first Toyota. I bought a 2020 Tundra SR5 TRD Sport Crewmax.
I wanted the Tundra for its reliability, and I chose the 2020 because I wanted the V8.
I also think the older Tundra's look better than the new ones.
My only complaint is that the seats are uncomfortable on long trips compared to my F150.
I get complaints from the passenger that they feel like they are sliding forward in their seat all the time? It is not a power seat, so I'm limited on seat adjustments. Has anyone else experienced this? Is there a fix?
Great video!
New Tundras and new Tacomas have serious quality issues. I will never get rid of my 2016 DC 4WD Tundra. And it only has 50K miles!
I have a 2017 gmc sierra over a hundred grand on it have had no issues at all it has a 5.3 4x4 and yes full Size trucks need a v8 plain and simple my brother had a 5.7 tundra ran beautiful
In the same manner as 4cyl turbo charged engine is not the future of midsized pick up trucks like the Tacoma! I agree with you sir!
2016 platinum with 36,700 will never get rid off it thanks brother been following for years
Everything dealers are doing (or not doing) with regard to the new Tundra's makes perfect sense from their point of view (and mine). Once this bearing/debris situation is taken care of things will go back to normal.
Bought my daughter a RAV 4. Traded in the Ford ecoboost 2021. Bought old school Chevy with the 6.0
They haven't resolved the recall yet. No dealer in his right mind would want to try to sell a vehicle with an unresolved recall. Non Toyota dealers don't want the hassle of trying to get the trucks into Toyota when they do resolve the recall.
Well said
Your right, we bought a 2023 4Runner before they ruined it with turbos
Got my 2021 Tundra and not letting it go. Good luck to 3rd gen owners trying to get into 2nd gens.
I have two 2023 models both with around 10,000 miles, running good so far knock on wood! Sr5, 1794, both non hybrid and both are leased though Toyota, this certainly has my attention, I guess I should have kept my old V8 model.😢
Me to my 2022 tundra has 72,000 miles on it right now drive every day not one thing wrong with it
They’re having transmission issues in the new trucks too.
That’s interesting, wonder if they removed the transmission cooler in the new ones too? I think I heard they removed them in the 2019 and newer, older body style ones.
The Toyota fan boys are very angry right now
Glad to see you.
Total lies.
The new Tacoma is coming soon? They are already have overheating transmission issues. I'll be keeping my 2019 Tacom Voodoo Blue Trdpro with the M/T 🫡
There was a new Tacoma at my local dealer last time I was there and 2nd gear was out of it already
@gearrunner Sounds about right, coming from these new Toyotas 🤯💩
Potential Tacoma buyers are seeing what's happening with Toyota's other new turbo engine. TFL sold their "long term" 2024 Tacoma after about six months; I wonder squeezed them to stop testing the new design.
Hey Andy good info.
Thank you
#1 fkup - price increase $20-30K
#2 # - 6 banger with turbos
#3 # - no parts available to fix broken turds. 🥱👎
Sums it up well.