Lindsey Buckingham has been publicly humiliated by the remains of Fleetwood Mac and honestly given their age, I don't see Lindsey ever playing with Fleetwood Mac again. It's OVER! What exists now is a hybrid Fleetwood Mac cover band hoping to cash in on the nostalgia for what in truth, is lost forever.
Caroline Chiasson yes your right. I am so disappointed in the Mac. ... they have been doing this to the fans for too long. There not 20 somethings anymore... give us the music till you just can't anymore.
No Lindsey, no Fleetwood Mac. What is going on tour is merely a tribute band and no one needs to invest money in that at the end of the former bands career. Bye FM, it was a hell of a ride.
THIS is JUST SO FUCKED-UP! I FINALLY can afford front row center, but Without Lindsey, FORGET IT! At LEAST I got to see them all in "nosebleed" in '97!
I just can't my head around it. Fleetwood Mac are one of those bands where you need every member. Without Christine you lose a third of the set, without Stevie, likewise and without Lyndsey you get someone else singing his songs and an additional guitarist. As well as this the band are named after John and Mick so you need all five. I don't want to hear Neil Finn, Rick Vito or Billy Burnette singing Lyndsey's songs and I don't wanna go to a gig where Chris' songs aren't performed.
Thought about going to see them and decided not to. It won't be the same without LB. His voice and guitar playing is so distinct to Fleetwood Mac No one can't replace him. Can't do it.
I probably would replace the comment with: The post 1975 Fleetwood Mac is not the same without him. He was the brain trust of that part of the group's history. And anyone who thinks differently needs to remember he was the one the band coveted in 1974 and it was him producing all of their records and creating the sound that put the group over the top. Yes, he is an ass and probably had a lot to do with his dismissal, but usually his disagreements were about the music, so I'm pretty confident whatever position he was defending was likely reasonable from a musician's point of view.
Lindsey Buckingham is a one of a kind guitarist thats why they replaced him with two other guitar players because they will never be able to fill his spot in the band and im not going to see Fleetwood Mac without Lindsey.
then you never saw the Tango in The Night Tour or the Behind the Mask tour with Billy Burnette and Rick Vito in his place. Those were killer shows, just kick ass.
Lindsey Buckingham is the one who brought Fleetwood Mac to the top!.....Headmaster Mick has been living off the creativity of other musicians for decades, starting with Peter Green to Bob Welch to Lindsey Buckingham.....Fleetwood Mac was destined to be another casualty in the music business until Buckingham / Nicks were added to their line-up. That's when the magic happened and they zoomed to the top of the rock world!.....Replacements Mike Campbell & Neil Finn are excellent musicians which makes the current rendition of FM a tribute band....Not many fans are going to pay $200 plus to see a tribute act perform with members in their late 60's and early 70's.
No matter what really happened, I have always loved Stevie Nicks as an artist with my whole heart and soul and I have no intentions of ever changing that...period.
No one else can replace Lindsay Buckingham. His voice and guitar genius IS Fleetwood Mac. If he isn't in the band they all should give it up. It will just be embarrassing for them to continue in their 70's to try to replicate what is already golden with Buckingham.
Have you ever wondered why every time Lindsey takes leave of the band, it takes two, maybe three people to replace him? Seeing him live, he is a madman, a genius, and a true entertainer. Fleetwood Mac will be the ones to suffer from this, not Lindsey.
Thank you, John ! i didn't know about this LB news ? I certainly hope at some point this year he feels comfortable with some magazine, etc. to talk about what really happened with the split from his perspective.
To bad they cant iron out their differences. At their age who knows how many more tours they have left. People really want to see this lineup of the band.
He wasn't ready to tour. They were. They were ready to make money. He wasn't. It definitely won't be the same without him, but we're also talking about a band at the end of its career...might not be time for another reunion tour, or even to see any version of them live again. Buckingham is 68, and he's the youngest!
Lindsey is a talented musician and the main man of Fleetwood Mac, his songs IMO on their albums are the best. Without Lindsey, I am not interested in them at all. It is Lindsey's songs that anchor the Fleetwood Mac albums, they are always the strongest pop songs. It's a shame they did this to him. His solo song Trouble is a classic. No one would remember Fleetwood Mac or know the name Stevie Nicks if it wasn't for Lindsey. Fleetwood asked Lindsey alone to join his group in 74 I believe.
43 years? Say what? Lindsay quit Fleetwood Mac in 1987 right after Tango In The Night was released and was replaced in FW by Rick Vito and Billy Burnett. He didn't rejoin the band until 1992
Stevie was on her solo tour and made them all wait another year so WTF.......its the same old same old. This band has always been high maintenance and high drama. Their set really hasn't changed in the entire 43 years either.
He'll be back, only for the fact that the fans will not accept the "new" Fleetwood Mac". They'll kiss and make up in a couple of years when the first album without him tanks.
I Love Mike Campbel and mike Finn , but unless Peter Green or Bob Welch replace LB, it's really taken the band down a couple notches. He is an essential part of the band.
Rock History Music This is a very fine channel. I am so glad that there is one on RUclips that covers classic rock bands like Yes, Jethro Tull , Genesis, Fleetwood Mac and a host of others. The 60s and 70s was the golden age of Rock-n=Roll, as far as I am concerned. Oh yes, honorable mention goes to the 80s, as well. Rock History Music: You do a great job! Thank you.
The story that I have heard that is most plausible is the rest of the band wanted to go on tour this year and Lindsay didn't. No reason why they should have to wait for him to decide when he wants to play. The upcoming tour will apparently cover a lot of material that Lindsay would never allow the band to play live - because he didn't originally play on it. For genuine fans of FM I think this upcoming tour is a great opportunity to get a new experience, rather than just another Lindsay & Stevie's greatest hits recitation.
The larger point is that the band waited for Stevie Nicks to complete her 70 date 24 Karat tour 2016-2017. During that time Lindsey and Christine made an album and promoted it. Now Lindsey wants to do a solo album and tour. Why shouldn't they wait for him if they waited for Stevie? Only fair.
@Rock History Music - I think most fans have already decided which side they are on and it doesn't appear to be with Stevie Nicks. It takes 2 to tango and she was the other dancer! Someone should interview Christie McVie for her take on things and why she divorced John McVie and recently did a side project- solo album with Lindsay! Just saying......
Well it took two musicians to replace him says something. Lindsey went political vs truth and so I’m sure the band said hey people listen to our music to get away from all the nonsense so if you want to bring nonsense into the band take a jump. I mean it makes sense.....
I love all iterations of Fleetwood Mac but of course my favorite is with Lindsey. It's timeless feel good vibing music & will always respect them all as musicians. I was finally & thankfully able to see them last night in upstate NY and it was fantastic!!! 🎼🎤🎸💃🏻😊✌
Sorry but after over 40yrs of the band being on and off, can't believe it was just 1 person- Stevie Nicks- to be the one who caused this. I'm a die hard F.M. fan. The band wanted to keep going. Lindsey didn't want to tour for his own reasons. Something was decided and Lindsey saying he didn't want to leave the band and that it wasn't his choice does not mean that his decision to not tour wasn't the reason for his parting from the band. I probably won't listen to F.M. stuff without Lindsey just because it's just not F.M. without everyone ( I mean c'mon, they had to find 2 guitarist to replace him...says something there) just my opinion. There's always the good ole days of F.M. and that's where you'll find me😉
Candice Whitlock so. True I think. Lindsey. Regards now that he pulled out of. Tour . He always said. He never liked touring. Well this is what. Happens 😩. Can’t. Keep blaming. Stevie. For. Everything in your life. Yous both moved on. !!!! Now Quit Cryan Lindsay
What probably happened was that Lindsey wanted to devote some time to his solo career instead of cranking up another FM tour. Don't forget, last year when Lindsey and Christine McVie released that duet album, it was supposed to be a FM album, but Stevie "wasn't available" because she was touring solo. So Lindsey probably said something like, "hey guys, give me a year to do my solo thing and we can tour after that", but obviously no one wanted to wait. Most likely money was the defining factor, because have you seen the ticket prices? Lindsey Buckingham defined the sound of FM for way longer than anyone else. People always bring up Peter Green, but he was only in the band for, what, 2-3 years? Mirage was supposed to be a solo LB album, but he caved and went along and it became a FM album. Same with Tango in the Night and Say You Will. The majority of songs on those albums are LB songs, but the ladies usually sing the hits, but they actually contribute way less. I think it's shitty that the band did this and I think it's shittier that it probably has more to do with Stevie being bitchy and wanting to get paid now, because really, they aren't getting any younger and I doubt they get much money from record sales anymore.
Buckingham has already shared with everyone publicly in interviews what the problem is and has always been... He said that Stevie is a psychotic and bipolar bitch. If you have not been with nor around one, then you have no idea what he's tried to convey about Stevie. I'm happy for Lindsay and he made the right choice to move on with his life... he is blessed with a wonderful family. Maybe one day Stevie will get some actual help...but I seriously doubt it.
It totally sucks!!! I know Lindsey is hard to work with, but Stevie expects everyone to cater to her. She seems to forget she’s almost 70 years old, throwing tantrums and believing she is as relevant as she and the Mac were in the 70’s and early 80’s...it’s all really a shame. One would think at this juncture in their careers, they could make it work and all get a long. The truth is, Lindsey got married and had children and went on with his life after Stevie told him that the music, song writing and fame were the most important things in her life and she would not put a relationship in front of those things no matter what. Lindsey grew tied and moved on...Ultimately, Steve didn’t like that. She wanted Lindsey to still want her, but she wouldn’t settle down, so he bailed and truth be told she despised him for that and he despised her for making that decision. They loved hard and fought harder, over everything. The rest is history...
I'm surprised more has not been said about Nicks accusations in her recent biography about Lindsey's physical abuse of her during their relationship. Even though it was a long time ago, that doesn't doesn't fly in today's world.
Michael Thom - That was not a book by Stevie. It was an unauthorized biography and Stevie had nothing to do with it. In fact, Stevie herself has not made any public accusations of abuse at the hands of Lindsey as far as I know. It’s only been others who have alleged the abuse.
Well from their stage presents she loves him unconditionally. I don’t see hate and if someone abused me there would be some hate. Like we would never be a team again....
Very cool video , John. My first Fleetwood Mac LP was " Fleetwood Mac ", their first in the spring of 68', when i was 17. A great album, now called " Peter Green's FleetwodMac ", not to be confused with the 1975 FM album. It won't be the same without Lindsey ! Say it isn't so !!
This is just plain old sad. Misogynistic and moronic comments aside, you're right to say everyone in the biz is difficult. Lindsey is no more or less than any of them. As a fan of all of them, I'm looking forward to both, the new Mac sound - will be great to hear some Peter Green - and Lindsey's next project.
Who will do the chain, go your own way, second hand news, so afraid, blue letter, big love, hell his vocals and solos are all over this band, even co piloting silver spring that dualing vocal shared with nicks, doubt id see them without lindsay, he created and directed that music, produced tusk and tango in the night. I couldn't bare to watch this legendary group without him its like watching the sunrise with your eyes tightly closed. No lindsey fucking forget it😲😲😲😲😢😢😢
Flynn Taylor Uh EXCUSE ME but if you "Research" Fleetwood Mac you will find that Christine Mcvie and Stevie Nicks wrote most of the "HITS" in Fleetwood Mac NOT LINDSEY "douchebag" BUCKINGHAM!!!! LOL You must be a "Casual" fan of this group!
I am disillusioned with Stevie Nicks.....as I do believe it was here suggestion that Lindsey Buckingham be "let go"....she always wanted to be a Heartbreaker....the great Tom Petty stated that, and said no...many times. So, she got Mike Campbell.....who's wonderful...the other guitarist don't have a clue!! But, Fleetwood Mac....is not "Fleetwood Mac" anymore....not the same kind of guitarists..... and isn't it late to change a winning line up.
He wanted to pause the tour for awhile and they were not having it. Point blank. So sad that this has happened. I think their tour might flop without Lindsey.
Hi John, I saw the video yesterday from UCR. I am sad. Like yourself, I am sad because he was the focal point of FM for me. Sad that we have come to a He said, She said game.... now.... and it is no longer about that legend that he helped create. I am hoping that he does come back into the fold where he should... because if he doesn't they will not get my support as much as a huge FM fan as I am. God bless to you and all the mothers in your life today. Sincerely. Tino
Lindsay's departure is probably the sign that the rest of the band's finally decided to break the chain. It's no wonder they needed two guys to replace him.
SuperGrayeagle > Look at some live performances of FM. Lindsay always had one or two backup guitarists hidden behind the band. He couldn't play all that stuff alone. Lindsay is a good/great guitarist but he can easily be replaced. His well liked songs, not so much.
ALWAYS takes at least TWO guitarists to replace him, cuz he's the best! Makes me sick that F.M. is no longer F.M.& never will be again.Saw them on "ELLEN SHOW". They weren't half bad, but they weren't my F.M.! I think they oughtta hang it up now, cuz it's OVER!!
I wouldn't blame Stevie. I blame Mick. When Stevie was taking her documentary to a few film festivals, Mick was quoted as saying "Well, we're just waiting on her...". Lindsey was upset by these remarks and wrote "Sad Angel". A fabulous beautiful song. She's shoved a tour in between bouts of FM. And recorded 24 Karat Gold in, what was it, 2-6 weeks while waiting for FM? She's appeased them a fair bit lately. And I'm sure she'd rather be on the road, no matter how. Mick doesn't have songwriting credits (save for The Chain) to get residuals from. ALL he has is touring. If he wants to be the "leader" while Lindsey is doing more of the work, then he should be willing to shoulder the blame.
Mark Boucher no I think they will really see a decline in ticket sales. Lindsey was such a huge part of this band. A very distinct voice he had. Very hard to replace that
Never say never (unless you’re Peter Cetera or Steve Perry). Would rather see a non-politically skewed interview with him and something unbiased like what’s on here vs. what Rolling Stone or Billboard would present. The truth always lies somewhere in between with their stories. Not sure I’ve heard enough to come down on either FM or LBs side...yet.
What's strange is that he recently wrapped up a tour with Christine McVie and now this. Unless something happened with CMV you figure she'd have his back.
I'm not entirely sure. The cynical part of me thinks the only reason Christine McVie decided to leave retirement was about money, and she understands that touring with the group is the way to earn money, so she would have likely just let it go. If you think about it, we could have had a proper Fleetwood Mac album last year, but Stevie Nicks decided to withhold her songs for her own album, so I suspect as always, it is all about Stevie. Same reason why Lindsay left in 1987, when Stevie was too coked up to even record more than one full track and spend less than two weeks in the studio on an album that took 18 months to produce.
McVie was utterly fed up with doing concert tours by the late-'90s, so financial desperation must've been the prime motivator for her return to the fold.
I heard or read that they waited on Christine to go back to London then they made the choice without her. I agree. I think she would have had his back if she had been there. I kinda thought that a chicken sh*t move on the rest of them. Suspicious at the very least.
Richard K I think it has to do with Stevie Nicks always wanted to be a Heartbreaker...Tom Petty spoke on it many times....so now she had Mike, a Heartbreaker... but, two different playing styles...vocals and harmonies....love Mike....but love Lindsey, too.
Well Let me put it to you this way, I was not playing Rhiannon over and over I was playing World Turning over and over and I'm so Afraid But I have to say My all time Favorite Lindsey Buckingham song was Go Your Own Way
It's sad that Lindsey is gone but I can't say that I'm not gonna be excited to hear Mike Campbell's guitar playing again.It sucks for Lindsey but that door still keeps revolving so who knows how this is going to end up.
Despite the fact that Fleetwood Mac's 3rd iteration; the post 1974 Buckingham/Nicks era has far outlasted earlier incarnations, they really haven't produced anything of significance since 1979, following both their wildly popular self titled "Fleetwood Mac" + "Rumours" along with Lindsey's masterwork, "Tusk". Yet without him in the current lineup, it would be daringly refreshing to can Stevie - originally brought in as a condition of Lindsey's joining the group when Mick recruited him - as well, and focus even more on the Reporter's indication of the pre B/N songbook, with the exception of Christine's ongoing material. Of course they're going to perform "Oh Well", "Hypnotized" in addition to usual material repeated from the past. However without Nicks in the band, Neil Finn could cover a significant number of tunes penned and sung by Danny Kirwan; Bare Trees should be revisited, and not just the song, but numerous tracks from arguably the best post Peter Green LP not named Rumours*, although no fave* of mine. Perform other material from the wonderful "Then Play On" LP besides Peter's ubiquitous "Oh Well"; they clearly deserve revisiting, along with gorgeous instrumentals like "Albatross" and Sunny Side of Heaven". The "Future Games" LP is certainly worthy of some selections as are the remaining LPs recorded between 72-74. Bring back former crowd pleasers "Purple Dancer" and "Dragonfly", two of their greatest songs never to appear on a studio LP, though wonderful performed live. Neil Finn and Mike Campbell especially, can more than adequately handle the guitar chores + Neil has the voice to breathe new life into songs long since heard. Cruel perhaps, yet it makes perfect sense to me. Stevie's act is tired and tedious.
I know this is old news now but whenever the whole Fleetwood Mac without Lindsey issue comes into my head it just feels wrong. It just doesn't seem natural. I don't care about the why or what really happened, it just is what it is for whatever reason. Lindsey was such an integral part of Fleetwood Mac, they need him and he needs them to make Fleetwood Mac legit in my opinion. I have absolutely nothing against Neil or Jimmy performing with Fleetwood Mac and I'm sure they put on a great show with the rest of the band but I'd personally still feel cheated watching it. The whole time I'd just be thinking that somethings missing, it would bug me.
I think its more about them wanting to do pre 1975 stuff he wasn't onboard for that most fans will say what the hell, a few die hard fans remember that stuff but most don't. good or bad might not be a good move
Not really sure what fans Mick and Stevie think are craving pre-'75 material. Whether it was Lindsey, Billy Burnette or Rick Vito covering these older songs, the result was usually the same. Once any of them launched into "Oh, Well" or "Another Woman" people would head for the restroom/concession stands or started talking. It's easy for Stevie to want these older songs, because she's not the one who has to cover them. On some of the tours, she wasn't even on stage when they covered those older songs. Fans are there to see those five people (or were), and want to hear them play the songs THEY recorded - the songs the fans are there to hear.
Too bad we can't see into that alternate universe where Lindsey had declined Mick's offer to join the band back in 1974. It would be hilarious to see what thirty-plus years of ditch digging and dish washing would have done to Mick and John. Put that in your drum and beat it, Mickey. Also, got my "Fuck Stevie Nicks" T-shirt today and it's awesome. Its got that saying in big bold letters on the front and on the back in smaller script it has Lindsey's statement to Mick that he's not joining the band unless they accept his girlfriend Stevie, too. Below that is an image of a knife stuck halfway in the back with a trickle of blood from the wound. Worth every penny.
yes.. Lindsey should do what Roger Waters did/does, Officially break up from the band, Fleetwood, and go solo playing some of his solo songs, mostly Fleetwood Mac stuff, but with his band, and he is of course the front guy. And like Roger, Lindsey should get a woman to tactfully replace the Nick's vocals, ECT, but all the Fleetwood songs slightly revised laced with venum, ECT.. Lindsey Buckingham of the Fleetwood Mac tour... Lindsey doesn't need that band, Fleetwood Mac. He can pull it off.. the possibilities are available. Yea, Roger Waters plays those old Pink Floyd songs in live concert with absolute perfection, he always makes the original 70s songs sound flat and uninteresting in contrast to his live versions...
So what, it has happened, move forward. The two new members bring a ton of fresh talent into the band, and I for one look forward to how this will revitalise Fleetwood Mac !
It's sad for sure. I for one will not be picking sides. I've been around bands long enough to know that there's a lot of egos and diverging agendas, and often, the dividing issues gets resolved by them in the end, if third parties don't interfere too much.
Lindsey's comments about legacy, destiny and perspective was difficult to parse but seemed to indicate some hurt on his part about being left out. Unfortunately life is all about timing and I think Lindsey and the rest of the band were in a different mental and emotional space. I believe in 2017 Lindsey was prepared to go back into the studio with the band but Stevie was instead focused on a personal project. Instead Lindsey and Christine McVey recorded their own excellent album and toured (I attended their excellent concert in Toronto). Then in 2018 Lindsey began working on an anthology of his catalog plus some new material. After the cold shoulder from the band he gathered his studio musicians and toured in the fall. I attended his only Canadian stop in Kitchener and it was an amazing concert, his guitar playing is so underrated. At the concert he gushed about his band and how cathartic it was to play his own work. Incredibly Lindsey had a heart attack only a couple of months after his tour ended. His family has a history of fatal heart attacks with his father dying at 55 from one and his brother an ex Olympic swimming silver medalist similarly died at 46. Not touring with Fleetwood Mac let him to re-release his own catalog and tour with his own material which is a tremendously ironic bit of serendipity and possibly a satisfying end to his music career if he never performs again.
Mick Fleetwood said on the CBS Sunday Morning show that the reason why Lindsey is out of the band is because the rest of the band wanted to tour, but he didn't. Unfortunately, Lindsey's comments are vague, wordy and don't clarify whether that's the reason why he's not in the band or not!
Didn't want to tour period, or didn't want to tour with a particular song list? Or didn't want to tour with a particular number of dates? There are plenty of ways you can parse those comments. Given what he said in that concert, it doesn't strike me he just didn't want to tour. Also worth keeping in mind, he has children still in his household, so maybe, just maybe he wanted more breaks in between legs of the tour, so I wouldn't fault him for that either.
cybervision You're an idiot. An Artist supporting his/her particular political bent doesn't mean they "lost perspective". Does a master Porsche mechanic lose his skills overhauling a 911 engine because he plays golf on Saturday? Also, look at all the top name Musicians like Springsteen, Sting, Peter Gabriel, etc that supported Amnesty International in the late 80s. Did they lose focus? I'll help you with the answer lol
Remember Fleetwood Mac has never been stable band. Through out the late 60s and early 70s there was a revolving door with people coming in and others going out, If anything can be said is that the time with Lindsey in the band is that was the longest period that the unstable was stable.............and remember the 80s and 90s he wasn't there either.
it's a shame, i like very much Lindsey he's like a genius, master guitarist, amazing singer too, it was like Sambora. A reunion for the 80th anniversary ? lol
1. Lindsey is like Mayer - he can talk for 45 minutes and not wind up saying anything that makes much sense. Both of 'em are just cryptic weirdos who should keep their mouths shut and stick to doing what they do best. But at least Mayer has a sense of humor. Have you ever heard Lindsey say (or do) anything funny? 2. Stevie on the other hand is a common-sense class act who is a joy to listen to (speak as well as sing). 3. But...no Lindsey, no ticket sale to me, at least. The band is just not the band without him. 4. Actually, this band - like a bunch of other bands - should've retired permanently a long time ago. You can rest on your laurels for just so long, and then my god, it's time to take up gardening and playing with the grandkids. Now they're just gotten to be like one of these nostalgia bands on a ship cruise. DO OTHER THINGS! We still got them albums!
I read somewhere that Lindsey had been hoping that Stevie would join them on the Christine Buckingham tour but she apparently was too busy! Touring herself. I think that they are both lacking in flexibility! And I do agree with him and her in that their days are numbered age ways . She wants fun and he wants serious music! Sad that they cant end their days on a good note!
Now could be wrong, and barking up the wrong tree,but I've got a feeling Fleetwood and Macvie are the root of the problem . going back to the earliest days of the group when Peter Green was the sound of the band, there were ructions between these three members, and Green left. I believe that there were differing views about sound and directions for the band, but one thing is for certain . . Peter Green was the band . .the other two were a minor part of the groups individuality . .Green could have hired any number of session musicians, and still have the best sound of the era. Buckingham has similar qualities to Green . fantastic guitar virtuosity and singing ability . .what about the other two? . .pretty pedestrian really. I really believe that the name has carried these two mediocrities along for decades, and they are just so used to getting their way . .it had to end sometime, and with Lindsay going, it will be his legacy that will be remembered above all the other two pretenders ever achieved.
Lindsey should do what Roger Waters of the Pink Floyd did. Quite the band form his own band and play Fleetwood Mac songs with a minor punch in the music that sounds vastly greater than the original versions... get another woman to do the Nick's parts way more interestingly greater. Solo tour... Lindsey Buckingham of the Fleetwood Mac concert.
+garr christopher And Lindsey then can be in full absolute control of what songs should be played and how they should exactly sound and at what meter, ECT. His version.
+garr christopher And Lindsey then can be in full absolute control of what songs should be played and how they should exactly sound and at what meter, ECT. His version.
YOU KNOW BUSINESS IS THE ENEMY OF A BAND, IT REPLACES THE ORIGINAL BEAUTY OF A MUSICIANS EXPRESSION, DEALS, CONTRACTS, REPACEMENTS, ALL KINDA HAVE THE INTERFERENCE OF THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT....SO REALISTICALLY ENTERTAINMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN DOMINATED BY MONEY AND SADLY THE DEMISE OF ONE'S CAREER. MUSICIANS ARE HUMANS, NOT MACHINES.
This drama wouldn't matter as much if we had a lot of new talent these days that could compare...... but,....... ..do we really? maybe a few here and there.
It's puzzling to me how ousting almost 50% of the band sound is OK? It's like saying we'll loose Art Garfunkel (Simon & Garfunkel) and everything is still going to be fine. Didn't they try this in past, two guitarist to cover his songs? Whatever his demands were they should have met it, more sushi, GMO free snacks or glass bottle only water?
Everyone is entitled to their own favorite version of a band. It's just a matter of preference. I never really listened to much of FM before Lindsey and Stevie. Personally I have little interest in seeing them without LB. I'm sure they will continue to be a great band regardless.
Lindsey wanted to wait till the end of 2019 to tour. Sure Lindsey, Christine and John will be 75 years old. He is a great artist but a control freak. Finn and Campbell will be awesome additions. I saw the 90 tour without Lindsey, with Billy Brunette and Rick Vito in place of him, it was an awesome show.
I have read on many occasions that Stevie Nicks has no interest in recording new music, particularly with Fleetwood Mac, for 2 reasons. 1) The current state of the music industry. She feels consumers no longer buy albums. 2) As a result of her negative view of the music industry, Stevie didn't want to spend months in the studio with the band. With the likelihood of band members potentially being at each others throats through creative disagreements during recording, she felt that the joy of a future tour would be lost. She prefers the idea of reuniting every 3 years and giving fans a great experience without the personal heartache of the past. Personally I feel that Stevie has been allowing the past to dictate and determine the future. I would have thought that 30 years after Tango In The Night, with Christine back in the band and John McVie having survived cancer, the opportunity to make new music and create new memories would be an exciting prospect. Fleetwood Mac is now in it's 51st year but has issued no new music since 2003 album, Say You Will, with the exception of Extended Play in 2013 (which consisted of 4 tracks, 3 new Lindsey Buckingham songs and 1 lost Stevie Nicks demo from the Buckingham Nicks album released in 1973). Too long a gap to leave between releases and remain relevant. Extended Play was produced with Mitchell Froom (who's past credits include work with Crowded House) offered a lot of promise, but Stevie's lack of interest truly shows. Given her mother had only recently passed away, it would be understandable if she wasn't overly inspired, but a tour still followed. Hmmm?? What they are essentially undertaking is a nostalgia tour with a new and untested line up. The last time the Fleetwood Mac did this, it was prior to the release of the Time album in 1995. That tour did not feature Stevie, Lindsey or Christine (though Christine did contribute to the Time album as a band member) and led to Mick Fleetwood disbanding the group entirely. At that time, Fleetwood Mac was over and out. Neil Finn's decision to join Fleetwood Mac was exactly met with enthusiasm from his Australian contemporaries either. Midnight Oil members simply said, "Go Your Own Way" when asked for their thoughts. 1997's The Dance live album was an accident, a happy accident, which ended prematurely because Christine was unwilling to tour beyond the USA. Instead she chose to quit music entirely and retire. Throughout the Buckingham and Nicks era of Fleetwood it was Lindsey who compromised (until 1987) and Stevie who kept everyone waiting. It would appear that he put his foot down (again, finally) and here we have 1987-1988 all over again minus the new album. Perhaps this is what Lindsey means by "lacking perspective". Thankfully the new first decade of the new century proved to be has proved his most prolific. I wonder how things are between Christine and Lindsey following their duo album and subsequent promotional tour? I understand that after it was over Lindsey wanted to revisit his past albums (maybe remaster and reissue) or curate his own greatest hits collection. This may explain him wanting to wait to tour with Fleetwood Mac again for another year (until 2019). What happens next remains to he seen, but a new album would be awesome, even with this line up. Following the deaths of Bob Weston, Bob Welch and Bob Brunning, the band wanting to have a more inclusive set list that celebrates the contributions of these men is an excellent idea. Given Bob Welch wasn't included when Fleetwood Mac was inducted into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame, I believe Bob Welch is owed his due. Pity he isn't alive to witness this. Fingers crossed for everyone involved (or not involved) as the case maybe.
Lindsey is incredibly talented. I play guitar and never learned how to fingerpick until I saw him play Landslide on the "The Dance" concert, then I had to learn it. But I've been to a couple of Fleetwood Mac concerts and sometimes felt it was more the Lindsey Buckingham show. Too many long solos and songs basically only featuring him. And IMO not good songs. He doesn't come off as a very happy or likeable guy, so that along with his apparent (to me anyway) domination of the concerts I tend to believe some of the things I've read about how difficult he can be and his "my way or the highway" attitude. I could be wrong, that's just how it seems to me. Not looking for an argument, it's just how it appears to me. I think Fleetwood Mac will be a happier and more up-beat band now. I hope so. They deserve it. They all certainly paid their dues. They are and always will be an incredible band.
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Lindsey Buckingham has been publicly humiliated by the remains of Fleetwood Mac and honestly given their age, I don't see Lindsey ever playing with Fleetwood Mac again. It's OVER! What exists now is a hybrid Fleetwood Mac cover band hoping to cash in on the nostalgia for what in truth, is lost forever.
Lindsey has been dealing with so much shit over these 43 years... and all he gave them was endless amazing songs. This is heartbreaking.
Caroline Chiasson yes your right. I am so disappointed in the Mac. ... they have been doing this to the fans for too long. There not 20 somethings anymore... give us the music till you just can't anymore.
No Lindsey, no Fleetwood Mac. What is going on tour is merely a tribute band and no one needs to invest money in that at the end of the former bands career. Bye FM, it was a hell of a ride.
THIS is JUST SO FUCKED-UP! I FINALLY can afford front row center, but Without Lindsey, FORGET IT! At LEAST I got to see them all in "nosebleed" in '97!
I just can't my head around it. Fleetwood Mac are one of those bands where you need every member. Without Christine you lose a third of the set, without Stevie, likewise and without Lyndsey you get someone else singing his songs and an additional guitarist. As well as this the band are named after John and Mick so you need all five. I don't want to hear Neil Finn, Rick Vito or Billy Burnette singing Lyndsey's songs and I don't wanna go to a gig where Chris' songs aren't performed.
Thought about going to see them and decided not to. It won't be the same without LB.
His voice and guitar playing is so distinct to Fleetwood Mac
No one can't replace him. Can't do it.
Isabella Barbagallo I am not either....
Lindsey Buckingham is not replaceable imo... it’s not Fleetwood Mac without him!
Lindsey was a asshole that thought he would never get fired !!! I'm glad he was fired !! Stevie Nicks is Fleetwood Mac!!
M Leibs
Anyone is replaceable.
M Leibs Lindsey Buckingham is very replaceable. Nobody is irreplaceable.
Fleetwood Mac was before Buckingham. Of course he’s replaceable. Everyone e is.
I probably would replace the comment with: The post 1975 Fleetwood Mac is not the same without him. He was the brain trust of that part of the group's history. And anyone who thinks differently needs to remember he was the one the band coveted in 1974 and it was him producing all of their records and creating the sound that put the group over the top. Yes, he is an ass and probably had a lot to do with his dismissal, but usually his disagreements were about the music, so I'm pretty confident whatever position he was defending was likely reasonable from a musician's point of view.
Mick Fleetwood stepped over the line with talking about Lindsey. Lindsey was Fleetwood Mac. Stevie is good but only 1/2 as good without Lindsey.
I think he stepped over the line when he slepted with Stevie long ago !
@@jrm7170 🤮 her taste is questionable in men apart from Lindsey that is.
Lindsey Buckingham is a one of a kind guitarist thats why they replaced him with two other guitar players because they will never be able to fill his spot in the band and im not going to see Fleetwood Mac without Lindsey.
musicman79 👏👏👏👏 Great comment !!!
Denmark X thank you.
then you never saw the Tango in The Night Tour or the Behind the Mask tour with Billy Burnette and Rick Vito in his place. Those were killer shows, just kick ass.
I don't think it's going to be Fleetwood Mac without him . But like them all equally
When a band needs two musicians to replace one ... (and not the first time either) speaks for itself.
Lindsey Buckingham is the one who brought Fleetwood Mac to the top!.....Headmaster Mick has been living off the creativity of other musicians for decades, starting with Peter Green to Bob Welch to Lindsey Buckingham.....Fleetwood Mac was destined to be another casualty in the music business until Buckingham / Nicks were added to their line-up. That's when the magic happened and they zoomed to the top of the rock world!.....Replacements Mike Campbell & Neil Finn are excellent musicians which makes the current rendition of FM a tribute band....Not many fans are going to pay $200 plus to see a tribute act perform with members in their late 60's and early 70's.
Wow. Very original Mr. philipplagiarism3.
Without a new album,
Lindsey missing from the lineup seems irrelevant. The Mac seems to be a cover band now covering their own material.
No matter what really happened, I have always loved Stevie Nicks as an artist with my whole heart and soul and I have no intentions of ever changing that...period.
No one else can replace Lindsay Buckingham. His voice and guitar genius IS Fleetwood Mac. If he isn't in the band they all should give it up. It will just be embarrassing for them to continue in their 70's to try to replicate what is already golden with Buckingham.
Bunny McCue they r. Get. Raves Reviews where ever they play Fleetwood Mac and Stevie next and the new members
Have you ever wondered why every time Lindsey takes leave of the band, it takes two, maybe three people to replace him? Seeing him live, he is a madman, a genius, and a true entertainer. Fleetwood Mac will be the ones to suffer from this, not Lindsey.
GaryC4221 I've been saying this FOREVER! No one can surpass him! Period!
GaryC4221 not. True. He. One. Complaining. FM / Stevie /. New member r do n great. 👍👍❤️❤️
Thank you, John ! i didn't know about this LB news ? I certainly hope at some point this year he feels comfortable with some magazine, etc. to talk about what really happened with the split from his perspective.
To bad they cant iron out their differences. At their age who knows how many more tours they have left. People really want to see this lineup of the band.
He wasn't ready to tour. They were. They were ready to make money. He wasn't. It definitely won't be the same without him, but we're also talking about a band at the end of its career...might not be time for another reunion tour, or even to see any version of them live again. Buckingham is 68, and he's the youngest!
I guess they can do the tour without Buckingham, have rest and then reunite again. Why not?
Basically he's just a guitar player yes a good one but the band can survive without him
However I'm sure he will be back
Lindsey is a talented musician and the main man of Fleetwood Mac, his songs IMO on their albums are the best. Without Lindsey, I am not interested in them at all. It is Lindsey's songs that anchor the Fleetwood Mac albums, they are always the strongest pop songs. It's a shame they did this to him. His solo song Trouble is a classic. No one would remember Fleetwood Mac or know the name Stevie Nicks if it wasn't for Lindsey. Fleetwood asked Lindsey alone to join his group in 74 I believe.
nwlman and she. Has repaid 👍 him back. Time and. Time again. 👍
He would where is if not hot. Her / FM.
43 years? Say what? Lindsay quit Fleetwood Mac in 1987 right after Tango In The Night was released and was replaced in FW by Rick Vito and Billy Burnett. He didn't rejoin the band until 1992
Actually, 96. 92 was for the Clinton inauguration which was supposed to be a one-time deal.
stevedrums, actually Lindsey also has a solo career and has a great following on his own.
Stevie was on her solo tour and made them all wait another year so WTF.......its the same old same old.
This band has always been high maintenance and high drama.
Their set really hasn't changed in the entire 43 years either.
Maybe the McVie/Buckingham collaboration last year caused drama ?
He'll be back, only for the fact that the fans will not accept the "new" Fleetwood Mac". They'll kiss and make up in a couple of years when the first album without him tanks.
I Love Mike Campbel and mike Finn , but unless Peter Green or Bob Welch replace LB, it's really taken the band down a couple notches. He is an essential part of the band.
I saw them on their last two tours -- the most recent one had Christie McVie, so i'm good. I just can't see it being Fleetwood Mac with LB there.
Rock History Music This is a very fine channel. I am so glad that there is one on RUclips that covers classic rock bands like Yes, Jethro Tull , Genesis, Fleetwood Mac and a host of others. The 60s and 70s was the golden age of Rock-n=Roll, as far as I am concerned. Oh yes, honorable mention goes to the 80s, as well. Rock History Music: You do a great job! Thank you.
The story that I have heard that is most plausible is the rest of the band wanted to go on tour this year and Lindsay didn't. No reason why they should have to wait for him to decide when he wants to play.
The upcoming tour will apparently cover a lot of material that Lindsay would never allow the band to play live - because he didn't originally play on it. For genuine fans of FM I think this upcoming tour is a great opportunity to get a new experience, rather than just another Lindsay & Stevie's greatest hits recitation.
The larger point is that the band waited for Stevie Nicks to complete her 70 date 24 Karat tour 2016-2017. During that time Lindsey and Christine made an album and promoted it. Now Lindsey wants to do a solo album and tour. Why shouldn't they wait for him if they waited for Stevie? Only fair.
@Rock History Music - I think most fans have already decided which side they are on and it doesn't appear to be with Stevie Nicks. It takes 2 to tango and she was the other dancer! Someone should interview Christie McVie for her take on things and why she divorced John McVie and recently did a side project- solo album with Lindsay! Just saying......
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Clearly, you know nothing
Well it took two musicians to replace him says something. Lindsey went political vs truth and so I’m sure the band said hey people listen to our music to get away from all the nonsense so if you want to bring nonsense into the band take a jump. I mean it makes sense.....
I love all iterations of Fleetwood Mac but of course my favorite is with Lindsey. It's timeless feel good vibing music & will always respect them all as musicians. I was finally & thankfully able to see them last night in upstate NY and it was fantastic!!! 🎼🎤🎸💃🏻😊✌
I wish they did a one off 50 year anniversary show where Lindsey, Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer and Danny Kirwan took part in it.
Sorry but after over 40yrs of the band being on and off, can't believe it was just 1 person- Stevie Nicks- to be the one who caused this. I'm a die hard F.M. fan. The band wanted to keep going. Lindsey didn't want to tour for his own reasons. Something was decided and Lindsey saying he didn't want to leave the band and that it wasn't his choice does not mean that his decision to not tour wasn't the reason for his parting from the band. I probably won't listen to F.M. stuff without Lindsey just because it's just not F.M. without everyone ( I mean c'mon, they had to find 2 guitarist to replace him...says something there) just my opinion. There's always the good ole days of F.M. and that's where you'll find me😉
Candice Whitlock so. True I think. Lindsey. Regards now that he pulled out of. Tour . He always said. He never liked touring. Well this is what. Happens 😩. Can’t. Keep blaming. Stevie. For. Everything in your life. Yous both moved on. !!!! Now Quit Cryan Lindsay
Candice Whitlock - Did you not know he put his tour on hold?? Get your facts straight!!
What probably happened was that Lindsey wanted to devote some time to his solo career instead of cranking up another FM tour. Don't forget, last year when Lindsey and Christine McVie released that duet album, it was supposed to be a FM album, but Stevie "wasn't available" because she was touring solo. So Lindsey probably said something like, "hey guys, give me a year to do my solo thing and we can tour after that", but obviously no one wanted to wait. Most likely money was the defining factor, because have you seen the ticket prices? Lindsey Buckingham defined the sound of FM for way longer than anyone else. People always bring up Peter Green, but he was only in the band for, what, 2-3 years? Mirage was supposed to be a solo LB album, but he caved and went along and it became a FM album. Same with Tango in the Night and Say You Will. The majority of songs on those albums are LB songs, but the ladies usually sing the hits, but they actually contribute way less. I think it's shitty that the band did this and I think it's shittier that it probably has more to do with Stevie being bitchy and wanting to get paid now, because really, they aren't getting any younger and I doubt they get much money from record sales anymore.
Buckingham has already shared with everyone publicly in interviews what the problem is and has always been... He said that Stevie is a psychotic and bipolar bitch. If you have not been with nor around one, then you have no idea what he's tried to convey about Stevie. I'm happy for Lindsay and he made the right choice to move on with his life... he is blessed with a wonderful family. Maybe one day Stevie will get some actual help...but I seriously doubt it.
She has never gotten over him. She is bitter he moved on.
It totally sucks!!! I know Lindsey is hard to work with, but Stevie expects everyone to cater to her. She seems to forget she’s almost 70 years old, throwing tantrums and believing she is as relevant as she and the Mac were in the 70’s and early 80’s...it’s all really a shame. One would think at this juncture in their careers, they could make it work and all get a long. The truth is, Lindsey got married and had children and went on with his life after Stevie told him that the music, song writing and fame were the most important things in her life and she would not put a relationship in front of those things no matter what. Lindsey grew tied and moved on...Ultimately, Steve didn’t like that. She wanted Lindsey to still want her, but she wouldn’t settle down, so he bailed and truth be told she despised him for that and he despised her for making that decision. They loved hard and fought harder, over everything. The rest is history...
Stevie is that relevant though...She has a status on her own as a solo artist that rivals if not almost overshadows fleetwood mac alone.
Gypsygirl 1971 your right!
Agreed. They should have just sucked it up and done one last tour with the Rumours lineup and then ridden off into the sunset. But no....
Erica it's not the 80s, her solo albums...(CDs), not that good, not good at all....Trouble in Shangri La...was ok.
Erica - Her solo stuff is kinda boring.. js..
We love Lindsey...The best talented artists can't reverse what we have seen happen to the one we love!
I'm surprised more has not been said about Nicks accusations in her recent biography about Lindsey's physical abuse of her during their relationship. Even though it was a long time ago, that doesn't doesn't fly in today's world.
Michael Thom - That was not a book by Stevie. It was an unauthorized biography and Stevie had nothing to do with it. In fact, Stevie herself has not made any public accusations of abuse at the hands of Lindsey as far as I know. It’s only been others who have alleged the abuse.
Well from their stage presents she loves him unconditionally. I don’t see hate and if someone abused me there would be some hate. Like we would never be a team again....
Kevin Hullinger - She DIDN’T write that book! Numerous interviews she debunks those ‘abuse rumors.. Fact check!!
Very cool video , John. My first Fleetwood Mac LP was " Fleetwood Mac ", their first in the spring of 68', when i was 17.
A great album, now called " Peter Green's FleetwodMac ", not to be confused with the 1975 FM album.
It won't be the same without Lindsey ! Say it isn't so !!
This is just plain old sad. Misogynistic and moronic comments aside, you're right to say everyone in the biz is difficult. Lindsey is no more or less than any of them. As a fan of all of them, I'm looking forward to both, the new Mac sound - will be great to hear some Peter Green - and Lindsey's next project.
I’ll miss him but no one is getting younger, and he said he wouldn’t be available until 2019 for crying out loud.
Vincent Priceless yeah and that'll be here B4 u know it youngin
That's six and a half months. That's a very short break.
Who will do the chain, go your own way, second hand news, so afraid, blue letter, big love, hell his vocals and solos are all over this band, even co piloting silver spring that dualing vocal shared with nicks, doubt id see them without lindsay, he created and directed that music, produced tusk and tango in the night. I couldn't bare to watch this legendary group without him its like watching the sunrise with your eyes tightly closed. No lindsey fucking forget it😲😲😲😲😢😢😢
Flynn Taylor Uh EXCUSE ME but if you "Research" Fleetwood Mac you will find that Christine Mcvie and Stevie Nicks wrote most of the "HITS" in Fleetwood Mac NOT LINDSEY "douchebag" BUCKINGHAM!!!! LOL You must be a "Casual" fan of this group!
I am disillusioned with Stevie Nicks.....as I do believe it was here suggestion that Lindsey Buckingham be "let go"....she always wanted to be a Heartbreaker....the great Tom Petty stated that, and said no...many times. So, she got Mike Campbell.....who's wonderful...the other guitarist don't have a clue!! But, Fleetwood Mac....is not "Fleetwood Mac" anymore....not the same kind of guitarists..... and isn't it late to change a winning line up.
Butterflies Honeybees no way. She has her true. Love. Her Mudic. What she. Choose ❤️❤️👍👍
Joan Trentz -You really do live in some kind of ‘worship Stevie’ world don’t you? 🙄🙄
He wanted to pause the tour for awhile and they were not having it. Point blank. So sad that this has happened. I think their tour might flop without Lindsey.
Hi John,
I saw the video yesterday from UCR. I am sad. Like yourself, I am sad because he was the focal point of FM for me. Sad that we have come to a He said, She said game.... now.... and it is no longer about that legend that he helped create. I am hoping that he does come back into the fold where he should... because if he doesn't they will not get my support as much as a huge FM fan as I am.
God bless to you and all the mothers in your life today.
Sincerely.
Tino
Lindsay's departure is probably the sign that the rest of the band's finally decided to break the chain. It's no wonder they needed two guys to replace him.
SuperGrayeagle > Look at some live performances of FM. Lindsay always had one or two backup guitarists hidden behind the band. He couldn't play all that stuff alone. Lindsay is a good/great guitarist but he can easily be replaced. His well liked songs, not so much.
Wow! Now here's some news that really matters!!
So sad. I won't see FM without Lindsey! I hope they will reconcile in the future.
ALWAYS takes at least TWO guitarists to replace him, cuz he's the best! Makes me sick that F.M. is no longer F.M.& never will be again.Saw them on "ELLEN SHOW". They weren't half bad, but they weren't my F.M.! I think they oughtta hang it up now, cuz it's OVER!!
saffron blu not really. Over for FM and. Stevie. They were a sell Putin Chicago in Set 2018 ppl loved them and new band. To ❤️❤️❤️👍👍
Sell. Out.
I'm a Lindsey fan, but as a Kiwi, I'm really excited to see what Neil Finn will bring to the mix.
I wouldn't blame Stevie. I blame Mick.
When Stevie was taking her documentary to a few film festivals, Mick was quoted as saying "Well, we're just waiting on her...". Lindsey was upset by these remarks and wrote "Sad Angel". A fabulous beautiful song.
She's shoved a tour in between bouts of FM. And recorded 24 Karat Gold in, what was it, 2-6 weeks while waiting for FM? She's appeased them a fair bit lately. And I'm sure she'd rather be on the road, no matter how. Mick doesn't have songwriting credits (save for The Chain) to get residuals from. ALL he has is touring. If he wants to be the "leader" while Lindsey is doing more of the work, then he should be willing to shoulder the blame.
Mariah Pacheco Stevie lost her voice, more raspy, not feminine at all
Mariah Pacheco yes. Stevie. Is s True Trooper s always. ready to go. On tour. 👍❤️❤️
His replacements are awesome players and will do fine
I would rather see Neil Finn with Split Enz or Crowded House. Him singing Lindsay's parts will sorta makes it sound like a cover band.
At this point, FM is really more of a *brand* than a band.
Mark Boucher no I think they will really see a decline in ticket sales. Lindsey was such a huge part of this band. A very distinct voice he had. Very hard to replace that
Never say never (unless you’re Peter Cetera or Steve Perry). Would rather see a non-politically skewed interview with him and something unbiased like what’s on here vs. what Rolling Stone or Billboard would present. The truth always lies somewhere in between with their stories. Not sure I’ve heard enough to come down on either FM or LBs side...yet.
I think maybe they should just retire.
Excellent idea
What's strange is that he recently wrapped up a tour with Christine McVie and now this. Unless something happened with CMV you figure she'd have his back.
I'm not entirely sure. The cynical part of me thinks the only reason Christine McVie decided to leave retirement was about money, and she understands that touring with the group is the way to earn money, so she would have likely just let it go. If you think about it, we could have had a proper Fleetwood Mac album last year, but Stevie Nicks decided to withhold her songs for her own album, so I suspect as always, it is all about Stevie. Same reason why Lindsay left in 1987, when Stevie was too coked up to even record more than one full track and spend less than two weeks in the studio on an album that took 18 months to produce.
McVie was utterly fed up with doing concert tours by the late-'90s, so financial desperation must've been the prime motivator for her return to the fold.
I heard or read that they waited on Christine to go back to London then they made the choice without her. I agree. I think she would have had his back if she had been there. I kinda thought that a chicken sh*t move on the rest of them. Suspicious at the very least.
Richard K I think it has to do with Stevie Nicks always wanted to be a Heartbreaker...Tom Petty spoke on it many times....so now she had Mike, a Heartbreaker... but, two different playing styles...vocals and harmonies....love Mike....but love Lindsey, too.
Richard K
The decision was made while Chris wasn't even in the US.
Well Let me put it to you this way, I was not playing Rhiannon over and over I was playing World Turning over and over and I'm so Afraid But I have to say My all time Favorite Lindsey Buckingham song was Go Your Own Way
It's sad that Lindsey is gone but I can't say that I'm not gonna be excited to hear Mike Campbell's guitar playing again.It sucks for Lindsey but that door still keeps revolving so who knows how this is going to end up.
Whatever happened to not breaking the chain?
Despite the fact that Fleetwood Mac's 3rd iteration; the post 1974 Buckingham/Nicks era has far outlasted earlier incarnations, they really haven't produced anything of significance since 1979, following both their wildly popular self titled "Fleetwood Mac" + "Rumours" along with Lindsey's masterwork, "Tusk". Yet without him in the current lineup, it would be daringly refreshing to can Stevie - originally brought in as a condition of Lindsey's joining the group when Mick recruited him - as well, and focus even more on the Reporter's indication of the pre B/N songbook, with the exception of Christine's ongoing material. Of course they're going to perform "Oh Well", "Hypnotized" in addition to usual material repeated from the past. However without Nicks in the band, Neil Finn could cover a significant number of tunes penned and sung by Danny Kirwan; Bare Trees should be revisited, and not just the song, but numerous tracks from arguably the best post Peter Green LP not named Rumours*, although no fave* of mine. Perform other material from the wonderful "Then Play On" LP besides Peter's ubiquitous "Oh Well"; they clearly deserve revisiting, along with gorgeous instrumentals like "Albatross" and Sunny Side of Heaven". The "Future Games" LP is certainly worthy of some selections as are the remaining LPs recorded between 72-74. Bring back former crowd pleasers "Purple Dancer" and "Dragonfly", two of their greatest songs never to appear on a studio LP, though wonderful performed live. Neil Finn and Mike Campbell especially, can more than adequately handle the guitar chores + Neil has the voice to breathe new life into songs long since heard. Cruel perhaps, yet it makes perfect sense to me. Stevie's act is tired and tedious.
robert richman Stevie Nicks is the heart of Fleetwood Mac
I know this is old news now but whenever the whole Fleetwood Mac without Lindsey issue comes into my head it just feels wrong. It just doesn't seem natural.
I don't care about the why or what really happened, it just is what it is for whatever reason.
Lindsey was such an integral part of Fleetwood Mac, they need him and he needs them to make Fleetwood Mac legit in my opinion.
I have absolutely nothing against Neil or Jimmy performing with Fleetwood Mac and I'm sure they put on a great show with the rest of the band but I'd personally still feel cheated watching it.
The whole time I'd just be thinking that somethings missing, it would bug me.
I think its more about them wanting to do pre 1975 stuff he wasn't onboard for that most fans will say what the hell, a few die hard fans remember that stuff but most don't. good or bad might not be a good move
Not really sure what fans Mick and Stevie think are craving pre-'75 material. Whether it was Lindsey, Billy Burnette or Rick Vito covering these older songs, the result was usually the same. Once any of them launched into "Oh, Well" or "Another Woman" people would head for the restroom/concession stands or started talking. It's easy for Stevie to want these older songs, because she's not the one who has to cover them. On some of the tours, she wasn't even on stage when they covered those older songs. Fans are there to see those five people (or were), and want to hear them play the songs THEY recorded - the songs the fans are there to hear.
Hallelluah ..the great Lindsey speaks
..awesome
Too bad we can't see into that alternate universe where Lindsey had declined Mick's offer to join the band back in 1974. It would be hilarious to see what thirty-plus years of ditch digging and dish washing would have done to Mick and John. Put that in your drum and beat it, Mickey. Also, got my "Fuck Stevie Nicks" T-shirt today and it's awesome. Its got that saying in big bold letters on the front and on the back in smaller script it has Lindsey's statement to Mick that he's not joining the band unless they accept his girlfriend Stevie, too. Below that is an image of a knife stuck halfway in the back with a trickle of blood from the wound. Worth every penny.
Oye. Well, I'm still not going to the show.
Who cares, the band and the rest of us will not miss you !
yes.. Lindsey should do what Roger Waters did/does, Officially break up from the band, Fleetwood, and go solo playing some of his solo songs, mostly Fleetwood Mac stuff, but with his band, and he is of course the front guy. And like Roger, Lindsey should get a woman to tactfully replace the Nick's vocals, ECT, but all the Fleetwood songs slightly revised laced with venum, ECT.. Lindsey Buckingham of the Fleetwood Mac tour... Lindsey doesn't need that band, Fleetwood Mac. He can pull it off.. the possibilities are available. Yea, Roger Waters plays those old Pink Floyd songs in live concert with absolute perfection, he always makes the original 70s songs sound flat and uninteresting in contrast to his live versions...
Fleetwood Mac is not FM without Lindsey Lindsey Buckingham. There's no reason to see them in concert.
Vanilla Bean WRONG!!!!!!!!!! Mick Fleetwood and Stevie Nicks are the "Significant" members of this band! Did you have a "brain tumour" for breakfast?
Ricky Parker lol I've never herd anyone asked another person if they had a brain tumor for breakfast
Vanilla Bean not everyone agrees. With you. !!!! At. Their age. They are. Fantastic👍👍❤️❤️❤️
So what, it has happened, move forward. The two new members bring a ton of fresh talent into the band, and I for one look forward to how this will revitalise Fleetwood Mac !
Lindsey buckingham is on a solo tour NOW....CHECK IT OUT,,,,,
It's sad for sure. I for one will not be picking sides. I've been around bands long enough to know that there's a lot of egos and diverging agendas, and often, the dividing issues gets resolved by them in the end, if third parties don't interfere too much.
Lindsey's comments about legacy, destiny and perspective was difficult to parse but seemed to indicate some hurt on his part about being left out. Unfortunately life is all about timing and I think Lindsey and the rest of the band were in a different mental and emotional space. I believe in 2017 Lindsey was prepared to go back into the studio with the band but Stevie was instead focused on a personal project. Instead Lindsey and Christine McVey recorded their own excellent album and toured (I attended their excellent concert in Toronto). Then in 2018 Lindsey began working on an anthology of his catalog plus some new material. After the cold shoulder from the band he gathered his studio musicians and toured in the fall. I attended his only Canadian stop in Kitchener and it was an amazing concert, his guitar playing is so underrated. At the concert he gushed about his band and how cathartic it was to play his own work.
Incredibly Lindsey had a heart attack only a couple of months after his tour ended. His family has a history of fatal heart attacks with his father dying at 55 from one and his brother an ex Olympic swimming silver medalist similarly died at 46. Not touring with Fleetwood Mac let him to re-release his own catalog and tour with his own material which is a tremendously ironic bit of serendipity and possibly a satisfying end to his music career if he never performs again.
Mick Fleetwood said on the CBS Sunday Morning show that the reason why Lindsey is out of the band is because the rest of the band wanted to tour, but he didn't. Unfortunately, Lindsey's comments are vague, wordy and don't clarify whether that's the reason why he's not in the band or not!
Didn't want to tour period, or didn't want to tour with a particular song list? Or didn't want to tour with a particular number of dates? There are plenty of ways you can parse those comments. Given what he said in that concert, it doesn't strike me he just didn't want to tour. Also worth keeping in mind, he has children still in his household, so maybe, just maybe he wanted more breaks in between legs of the tour, so I wouldn't fault him for that either.
John42ification - He was ready to tour..
FLEETWOOD MAC is NOW OFFICIALLY DEAD! LOVED you ALL! Was a GREAT RUN! My grown kids will always remember your songs, as they were their lullibies!
saffron blu I concur....xx
Lindsey Buckingham lost his perspective by being involved with political fundraisers.
cybervision You're an idiot. An Artist supporting his/her particular political bent doesn't mean they "lost perspective". Does a master Porsche mechanic lose his skills overhauling a 911 engine because he plays golf on Saturday? Also, look at all the top name Musicians like Springsteen, Sting, Peter Gabriel, etc that supported Amnesty International in the late 80s. Did they lose focus? I'll help you with the answer lol
cybervision Mick Fleetwood had no problem supporting Bill Clinton in 1992 and getting his band to play for Clinton inauguration
I thought that is what happened to most musicians and celebrities?
Stay out of politics Lindsey it's going to really hurt you
He alone was holding up the tour. They said fine, we’ll tour without you.
D E - No he wasn’t.. he re-arranged his.. Fact check!!
Remember Fleetwood Mac has never been stable band. Through out the late 60s and early 70s there was a revolving door with people coming in and others going out, If anything can be said is that the time with Lindsey in the band is that was the longest period that the unstable was stable.............and remember the 80s and 90s he wasn't there either.
Steven Miller he was there in the 80's and the 90's both wtf r u talking about
uMM...he WAS there in the 80s for Mirage & Tango Albums and returned in 1997 for 'The Dance'
Steven Miller iii
it's a shame, i like very much Lindsey he's like a genius, master guitarist, amazing singer too, it was like Sambora. A reunion for the 80th anniversary ? lol
They should replace one note Stevie with someone who can actually sing and not just float around like a seven-year-old Acting like a fairy princess!
The last hippie band from flower generation alive. Without Lindsey are they still relevant?
None can replace his voice.he voice is much stronger and smoother than the guy who's been brought in to replace him.I don't think it's going to work.
Samantha Esra I love Neil Finn, he’s so effortless in his singing, I think fans will be somewhat happy,.
I think they are to old for crap of fighting if they are!!!
Jack Glez it all boils down to pride and selfish ambition aka money.
That's 'too' old!
Now he's a Dem ? So, Dems still trying to affect President Trump? They’ve been at it since he won the GOP nomination in 2016. How’s it going so far?
Lindsey stay out of politics
1. Lindsey is like Mayer - he can talk for 45 minutes and not wind up saying anything that makes much sense. Both of 'em are just cryptic weirdos who should keep their mouths shut and stick to doing what they do best. But at least Mayer has a sense of humor. Have you ever heard Lindsey say (or do) anything funny?
2. Stevie on the other hand is a common-sense class act who is a joy to listen to (speak as well as sing).
3. But...no Lindsey, no ticket sale to me, at least. The band is just not the band without him.
4. Actually, this band - like a bunch of other bands - should've retired permanently a long time ago. You can rest on your laurels for just so long, and then my god, it's time to take up gardening and playing with the grandkids. Now they're just gotten to be like one of these nostalgia bands on a ship cruise. DO OTHER THINGS! We still got them albums!
Mayer? Who is Mayer - John Mayer? What's he got to do with anything.
Loss of perspective; should be "Loss of Youth."
I read somewhere that Lindsey had been hoping that Stevie would join them on the Christine Buckingham tour but she apparently was too busy! Touring herself. I think that they are both lacking in flexibility! And I do agree with him and her in that their days are numbered age ways . She wants fun and he wants serious music! Sad that they cant end their days on a good note!
Now could be wrong, and barking up the wrong tree,but I've got a feeling Fleetwood and Macvie are the root of the problem . going back to the earliest days of the group when Peter Green was the sound of the band, there were ructions between these three members, and Green left. I believe that there were differing views about sound and directions for the band, but one thing is for certain . . Peter Green was the band . .the other two were a minor part of the groups individuality . .Green could have hired any number of session musicians, and still have the best sound of the era. Buckingham has similar qualities to Green . fantastic guitar virtuosity and singing ability . .what about the other two? . .pretty pedestrian really. I really believe that the name has carried these two mediocrities along for decades, and they are just so used to getting their way . .it had to end sometime, and with Lindsay going, it will be his legacy that will be remembered above all the other two pretenders ever achieved.
Mark Wheeler - So terribly sad about Peter G falling into a drug induced coma..
Lindsey should do what Roger Waters of the Pink Floyd did. Quite the band form his own band and play Fleetwood Mac songs with a minor punch in the music that sounds vastly greater than the original versions... get another woman to do the Nick's parts way more interestingly greater. Solo tour... Lindsey Buckingham of the Fleetwood Mac concert.
the potential is there, that opportunity available, all he has to do is add the venum.
+garr christopher And Lindsey then can be in full absolute control of what songs should be played and how they should exactly sound and at what meter, ECT. His version.
+garr christopher And Lindsey then can be in full absolute control of what songs should be played and how they should exactly sound and at what meter, ECT. His version.
+garr christopher lastly, I'm not a Fleetwood Mac fan but my idea would fit him well and more.
Still the Priority of His Solo, or Their Group Career is The Issue, Good Luck Lindsey、A Support from Taiwan！
YOU KNOW BUSINESS IS THE ENEMY OF A BAND, IT REPLACES THE ORIGINAL BEAUTY OF A MUSICIANS EXPRESSION, DEALS, CONTRACTS, REPACEMENTS, ALL KINDA HAVE THE INTERFERENCE OF THE ORIGINAL CONCEPT....SO REALISTICALLY ENTERTAINMENT HAS ALWAYS BEEN DOMINATED BY MONEY AND SADLY THE DEMISE OF ONE'S CAREER. MUSICIANS ARE HUMANS, NOT MACHINES.
Go caps, go!
This drama wouldn't matter as much if we had a lot of new talent these days that could compare...... but,....... ..do we really? maybe a few here and there.
Just will not seem right at all.
It's puzzling to me how ousting almost 50% of the band sound is OK? It's like saying we'll loose Art Garfunkel (Simon & Garfunkel) and everything is still going to be fine. Didn't they try this in past, two guitarist to cover his songs?
Whatever his demands were they should have met it, more sushi, GMO free snacks or glass bottle only water?
Never a Lindsey fan . He's a fine musician of course , but the Peter Green & Bob Welch versions of the band are my favorites .
Everyone is entitled to their own favorite version of a band. It's just a matter of preference. I never really listened to much of FM before Lindsey and Stevie. Personally I have little interest in seeing them without LB. I'm sure they will continue to be a great band regardless.
Sad. He will be fine on his own.
Monica Weinle buy one of Lindseys solo albums....yes, he will be very ok....great music!!!
Lindsey wanted to wait till the end of 2019 to tour. Sure Lindsey, Christine and John will be 75 years old. He is a great artist but a control freak. Finn and Campbell will be awesome additions. I saw the 90 tour without Lindsey, with Billy Brunette and Rick Vito in place of him, it was an awesome show.
John Mcvie the Base King I could just listen to his base guitar..
Whatever the reason, it's a shame they can't get it together.
No Lindsey no Fleetwood Mac
I have read on many occasions that Stevie Nicks has no interest in recording new music, particularly with Fleetwood Mac, for 2 reasons. 1) The current state of the music industry. She feels consumers no longer buy albums. 2) As a result of her negative view of the music industry, Stevie didn't want to spend months in the studio with the band. With the likelihood of band members potentially being at each others throats through creative disagreements during recording, she felt that the joy of a future tour would be lost. She prefers the idea of reuniting every 3 years and giving fans a great experience without the personal heartache of the past.
Personally I feel that Stevie has been allowing the past to dictate and determine the future. I would have thought that 30 years after Tango In The Night, with Christine back in the band and John McVie having survived cancer, the opportunity to make new music and create new memories would be an exciting prospect.
Fleetwood Mac is now in it's 51st year but has issued no new music since 2003 album, Say You Will, with the exception of Extended Play in 2013 (which consisted of 4 tracks, 3 new Lindsey Buckingham songs and 1 lost Stevie Nicks demo from the Buckingham Nicks album released in 1973). Too long a gap to leave between releases and remain relevant. Extended Play was produced with Mitchell Froom (who's past credits include work with Crowded House) offered a lot of promise, but Stevie's lack of interest truly shows. Given her mother had only recently passed away, it would be understandable if she wasn't overly inspired, but a tour still followed. Hmmm??
What they are essentially undertaking is a nostalgia tour with a new and untested line up. The last time the Fleetwood Mac did this, it was prior to the release of the Time album in 1995. That tour did not feature Stevie, Lindsey or Christine (though Christine did contribute to the Time album as a band member) and led to Mick Fleetwood disbanding the group entirely. At that time, Fleetwood Mac was over and out. Neil Finn's decision to join Fleetwood Mac was exactly met with enthusiasm from his Australian contemporaries either. Midnight Oil members simply said, "Go Your Own Way" when asked for their thoughts.
1997's The Dance live album was an accident, a happy accident, which ended prematurely because Christine was unwilling to tour beyond the USA. Instead she chose to quit music entirely and retire.
Throughout the Buckingham and Nicks era of Fleetwood it was Lindsey who compromised (until 1987) and Stevie who kept everyone waiting. It would appear that he put his foot down (again, finally) and here we have 1987-1988 all over again minus the new album. Perhaps this is what Lindsey means by "lacking perspective". Thankfully the new first decade of the new century proved to be has proved his most prolific.
I wonder how things are between Christine and Lindsey following their duo album and subsequent promotional tour? I understand that after it was over Lindsey wanted to revisit his past albums (maybe remaster and reissue) or curate his own greatest hits collection. This may explain him wanting to wait to tour with Fleetwood Mac again for another year (until 2019).
What happens next remains to he seen, but a new album would be awesome, even with this line up. Following the deaths of Bob Weston, Bob Welch and Bob Brunning, the band wanting to have a more inclusive set list that celebrates the contributions of these men is an excellent idea. Given Bob Welch wasn't included when Fleetwood Mac was inducted into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame, I believe Bob Welch is owed his due. Pity he isn't alive to witness this.
Fingers crossed for everyone involved (or not involved) as the case maybe.
Lindsey is incredibly talented. I play guitar and never learned how to fingerpick until I saw him play Landslide on the "The Dance" concert, then I had to learn it. But I've been to a couple of Fleetwood Mac concerts and sometimes felt it was more the Lindsey Buckingham show. Too many long solos and songs basically only featuring him. And IMO not good songs. He doesn't come off as a very happy or likeable guy, so that along with his apparent (to me anyway) domination of the concerts I tend to believe some of the things I've read about how difficult he can be and his "my way or the highway" attitude. I could be wrong, that's just how it seems to me. Not looking for an argument, it's just how it appears to me. I think Fleetwood Mac will be a happier and more up-beat band now. I hope so. They deserve it. They all certainly paid their dues. They are and always will be an incredible band.
richard miller do you every see them live? Up close?