If Jeff smoking a cigar is causing you to stumble, then don’t watch the video. In fact you should probably get off the internet period… a cigar is the least of your worries, there’s much worse temptations on here. Don’t be legalistic, creating laws where God hasn’t spoken. If smoking a cigar is a sin (which it’s not imo) then so is drinking coffee or soda or junk food in general, as all can lead to bad health if done habitually. I understand the weaker brother argument but the whole point was to push the weaker brother into maturity. Paul even rebukes those Jews who were trying to force dietary laws on the gentiles, aka being legalistic. I’m not saying you should light up a cigar in person right next to a brother who was abusing tobacco, but at the same time a weaker brother must mature at some point and can’t expect everyone in the faith to put unnecessary yokes upon themselves and burdens because of their lack of self control. The bottom line is temptation is all around us, that’s why we must level up and put self control into practice by the strength of the Spirit of God. Be disciplined, we’re disciples.
Yes he does he is bringing into disrepute the wonderful Word. The name above all names he is making a mockery of. And he knows exactly what he is doing. Ain't he a cheeky devil.
i used to be addicted to nicotine heavily for years (as well as hard drugs) before the LORD saved me and watching professed brethren smoking while talking about the LORD has definitely been a stumblingblock for me. Please just consider the weaker brethren like myself. one video i watched i couldnt even hear what was being said because i was fixated on the cigar. im not saying smoking a cigar is a sin - however when it causes others to stumble it may be wiser to reconsider doing it in a context like this. Although one may have liberty to smoke cigars it may cause a weak brother who just came out of this addiction to be tempted to go back to smoking (not for recreation but in a sinful and harmful way). i personally know that i dont want to cause a brother to stumble in this way and just ask whoever reads this to consider my perspective. in no way am i trying to take away Christian liberty, but i think there can be a time and a place for certain liberties to be exercised out of the public eye out of love for others. love you all.
@sanders194539 not sure I agree. One pastor smoking one cigar hardly constitutes an entire movement. I've been reformed for years, and this is the first time I've seen anything like this. But yes, a total disregard of the Romans 14 instruction given about not being a stumbling block to the weaker brother or sister. These liberties should be done in private between them and God .
This is a common feature of the theonomic postmillennialism bearded Calvinist crowd. It is meant to appeal to the rebel counter culture young male, and seem like a cooler more masculine form of Christianity. For too long, the weak, feminine American evangelical form of the church, with its “felt needs” and psychological therapeutic religion, created an environment where men coming out of adolescence didn’t feel like they belonged in the church. This new form (going back to the “Young Restless Reformed” movement with Driscoll and others like him) is the “equal and opposite reaction” to that unbiblical imbalance. But Christ never flaunted his liberty in the face of the weak and spiritually needy. He only went out of His way to offend people when they were self-righteousness and placing themselves in spiritual authority over others (scribes, Pharisees…). Biblical manhood has the masculinity of Christ as its standard. 🙏
I am on a journey to fully embrace the doctrines of grace, I even grow a beard. But I worry that I will have to start smoking cigars to progress in sanctification.
Joy to the world, the Lord is come. Let earth receive her King. Let every heart prepare Him room. Let Heaven and nature sing. Joy to the world, the Savior reigns. Let men their songs employ. Let fields and floods, rocks, hills and plains repeat the sounding joy. No more let sins and sorrows grow, nor thorns infest the ground. He comes to make His blessings known far as the curse is found. He rules the earth with truth and grace, and makes the nations prove the glories of His righteousness and wonders of His love!
I very much enjoy your teaching, but even though you have liberty to smoke that stogy, I find it very offensive and it makes me not want to send people to listen to you. Come out from among them and be ye holy/ separate. You look like the world whom I distrust. I have liberty to drink alcohol and not get drunk, but I have seen the effect of Christians drinking in front of non-Christians and it is destructive to the name of Christ. Jeff, you are an ambassador for God and causing offence is not being and being a good ambassador, as I see it. Thanks for thinking about this.
Nah. Post mil thinks things are going to progressively get better. Pre mil thinks thing are going to get very, very bad., before Jesus comes back. The Bible supports pre mil.
Yeah it’s super funny when people joke about something that lands you in hell. “But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.” Ephesians 5:3-6 NKJV Let NO ONE deceive you with empty words!
@@abideintheWord The Bible has words that today are socially considered curse words. So based on your logic of cursing somehow being a sin, that would mean the Bible is endorsing sin. The reality is that cursing in and of itself is not sinful, it can be, but isn’t always.
Whats insane is if people just would read the scriptures fully and in context they would see these things , example Matthew 27-51 , mark 15-33 and Luke 23-44 are all cross-referenced to revelations 6-12.
What could you possibly be trying to say while smoking a cigar? Who are you winning? What’s the message? How about not causing a brother to stumble??? Completely ridiculous of a “pastor” to smoke and especially to smoke while “preaching”. Shameless!!
Doesn’t the cigar open the floodgates for people who follow your teaching, to begin vaping, cigarettes, and perhaps pot? I wanted to hear your teaching on post mill theology but the cigar definitely threw things off..
You need to really question your views on your faith if you're going to be that swayed from listening to sound theology because of the mere sight of a cigar. Also, do you really believe that somebody would be so impressionable that they would see this video and decide to go out and try smoking because they saw someone else do it?
@@Antnj81 his idea is right, maybe wrong execution. There may be spiritual babies, very probable because its the internet and anyone can see any video. I love jeff durbin and his techings. But u dont think its wise to smoke a cigar when brothers and sisters can be swayed o tempted. Like when paul says that we shouldnt drink withe a brother who may struggle with wine.
@@Antnj81 When you claim to be a Christian, you immediately open yourself up to people watching to see just what this means to be a Christian. The Bible says to shun the very appearance of evil. Anything that causes health issues with our bodies, which are temples of the Holy Spirit, should be shunned. I guarantee, Jeff smoking will tell some that smoking is okay, even for a Christian.
If anything, it provides a great role model for avoiding legalistic heresies, especially given how prone Baptists historically have been to that error.
Thank you for posting this video. I reject pre-millennial dispensationalism 1000%. I can't say I have fully arrived at what my eschatological position is, but I am beginning to lean toward post-millennial. I appreciate Jeff Durbin's ministry very much.
I’m in the same boat. I’m 30 and this is all new stuff to me though when I look back at my church life as a youth I can spit the dispensationalism all over 😅 I was told its all going to burn!! 😊
Nah. Post mil thinks things are going to progressively get better. Pre mil thinks thing are going to get very, very bad., before Jesus comes back. The Bible supports pre mil.
Ok but... Premillennialism isn't dispensational. Historic Premillennialism was the eschatology of the church before Constantine. I repeat. Premillennialism IS NOT Dispensational. Dispensationalism just made its own version of it. And it's really sad to see the overreaction to it lead to a rejection of premillennialism.
I also enjoy a cigar once and awhile but how foolish this is to smoke one whilst giving a teaching. This could cause so many people to stumble or dismiss him, absolutely unwise.
@@Garfinkel64 It's hilarious that people are so quick to point out a secondary issue and say, "this is sinful" rather than listening to what he's saying.
@@jacobgarcia4826 it’s not that, it’s more of the appearance of a man teaching from the Word of God while promoting smoking. It’s hypocritical. I say this as I smoke a cigarette, but I’m also not in his position.
All things are permissible but not all things are profitable. Also, we ought not be a stumbling block to a weaker brother and not use our own freedom and liberty to become a rock of offence to a weaker brother. So, while I personally don't care if you smoke or drink, I just know that it could offend and bother a brother or sister. So I would not do it in front of them, and in this case, I would not do it for a video teaching. I don't think Jeff Durbin would do this if he was standing in a pulpit teaching in an actual church sanctuary. Nor do I think Spurgeon doing that either. It is all a point of context. How you are perceived in your attire and locale, affects how your well your message is listened to and accepted. Lower the possible distractions in order to be a more effective communicator. Love the content though.
i would agre even i don't think that smoking a cigares is "big sin " ,but think it's destructive for a weak and would make some people stumble over the message . I love Jeff's teachings but my opinion that here is big extraggeration especially when it comes to sharing bible message ..
There are alot of things not mentioned in the Bible, cocaine and heroin aren't mentioned either. What if Jeff was snorting a big fat line of Charlie, would you still be saying get over it as it's never mentioned in the Bible?
Hey Jeff what is the cigar all about? Is it an attention getter just wondering why? I know we are to eat & drink & do all we do for the glory of God but does that include smoking a cigar while handling Gods Word? It seems to be a poor example of one who proclaims Christ. How do you justify it before your congregation?
@@eastlandcc4888 It is the example that it sets forth to children. If our pastor thinks it is okay to smoke a cigar while preaching God's holy Word what is wrong with me smoking cigars, weed all of which can lead to many other vices. 1Cor.. 11:1 say IMITATE me as I fIMITATE the Lord. What we do as ministers, as parents and as a church influence those who look to us. By using the milkshake example shows that you missed the point that I was trying to make. When the church loses sight that the Christian faith is a counter culture to the world she loses sight of her ministry of influence. Pauls letters to Timothy show that ministers are required to set forth an example for others to follow.
@@stevehansel5080 You are in the right this men so called pastor is not a true follower of Christ. He needs to repent, and stop deceiving people in to thinking it’s okay. We serve a holy God with out sin. Keep your eyes on Jesus keep your eyes on Jesus. God is really exposing these false teachers !
1 Corinthians 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
Ehh.. idk about the cigar while you're teaching brother lol I understand you're not in the pulpit but you're having to interrupt yourself to relight and puff puff to get it going.. eh it just seems questionable ya know.. all things are permissible, but not all things are beneficial 😅
Jesus stated His Kingdom is NOT of this world for if it was His followers would fight for it. Postmil thought leads to political chaos and mayhem. You, Jeff, have even stated you are seeking CULTURAL dominion. That is NOT the Gospel nor, the intended outcome of spreading the Gospel. Romans 8:29 is the Biblical, true plan of God.
This dude is seriously smoking a stogie while preaching, and, as I was listening while driving and didn't see the video, just listening to the sermon, I was smoking a stogie. Legend.
It actually a warning sign to me. Jeff Durbin and the New-Calvinist movement appear to be taking Christian liberties too far. This isnt legalism. We should present a conservative image when preaching the Gospel.
@sanders194539 like the Jewish leaders did? It's his conviction to smoke cigars. whether people like it or not we each have our own sanctification to focus on.
@@alanbanfield3884If Jeff Durbin never opened his pie-hole, based on his physical demeanour and the places he likes to hang out with his buddies, I would have guessed he is a 1 percenter member of the Hells Angels or Banditos!
Wow Jeff , why would you do this man? It brought tears of sadness to my heart. Paul said: “Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.” 1 Corinthians 8:13 KJV So Paul was ready to never even eat meat then for anybody to stumble over him doing anything. You know that you can offend a lot of people by doing this. And after all what is the point really? I don’t think you’re doing it out of Love, which is supposed to be our motivation in every work we do.
Nah. Post mil thinks things are going to progressively get better. Pre mil thinks thing are going to get very, very bad., before Jesus comes back. The Bible supports pre mil.
@@skinnie2838 It amazes me, that while most dispensational preachers understand that the events foretold to occur in MT 23 and 24 center around, and come to completion, at the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in 70ad; then have the misguided fortitude to suddenly jump 2000 years into the future when Jesus includes his coming and the gathering right there within the very same texts! And it expressed as being IMMEDIATELY after the events in the previous verses! Because of the rise of Dispensationalism in the Church in the early 1900s, with its futuristic perspective of the New Testament prophecies; are we supposed to accept their premise that the first century believers, all the New Testament writers, the Holy Spirit, Jesus the Christ Himself, AND even God the Father, ALL got it completely and totally wrong, as to the timing and nature of the events foretold in holy writ? Especially when they ALL held to the perspective that their fulfillment was to be in that first century? Well, I am not persuaded by spiritual blindness! All of the New Testament writers, inspired by the Holy Spirit, wrote their texts to their first century readers, prophesying that the resurrection and the coming of the Lord were to occur in that generation then living and breathing at that time. There was no confusion or misunderstanding on the matter! Now, here is what we MUST conclude: Either the resurrection and the coming of the Lord did happen when and how they said it would; or God just flat out lied to them! And if God did lie; what else might he have lied about? And can you really trust the bible which you don't believe is actually true and accurate, since you don't believe those prophecies have happened? Do you see how your believing that the bible, with its prophecies, are both true and accurate is the paramount of your faith? You must choose one way or the other! God requires that you believe what he has preserved. Choose..........
@@makarov138 The Bible is very clear in revelation that its going to get really bad. If you havent noticed things are getting progressively worse. The leftist woke brigade are getting hungrier every day the more and more people they get to apologize to them. Its going to get bad. Buckle up and trust in Jesus.
@@skinnie2838 But that's the problem. You only think you are trusting in Jesus. You really don't believe what he both said and taught to his disciples! He said and taught that his coming would occur before they all died out. MT 16:28. And before THAT generation passed away. MT 24:34. Your misunderstanding other scriptures, and then applying them to what Jesus said, inferring that they are incorrect. You must put the words Jesus said FIRST! And then understand those other scriptures based on what Jesus said. Then you can truly trust in Jesus. Right now, you actually only believe some things he taught, but not the whole. You need the whole.
@@makarov138 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. (Matthew 24:12) At some point, the “lawless one” will come, and he will come in power, with false signs and wonders. He will be so impressive, so powerful, that many unbelievers will be deceived by him. The wickedness promoted and perpetuated by the lawless one will be on a colossal, sickening scale. It’s already bad, and it’s going to get worse.
I don’t think the Bible mandates that we never smoke cigars. But it’s a weird thing to do while you teach. Doesn’t make him evil, just a weird choice to make.
Yeah just pretty off putting … seems like he just wants to look so cool like “hey guys look at me I’m smoking, I’m so cool” … but aye maybe we can’t judge …
Isaac, I just have to say that was a mature response. It’s one thing to say is not your jam but something entirely different to accuse him of sin like many are doing. Good one you for not conflating your preferences with sin.
Classic modern Christians. They dont listen to what his saying and look only at the cigar. How foolish. Then they ask “wHy Is ThErE nO rEvIvAl???”. Maybe cause u see the wrong things, and if one is blind how can he or she guide others to the Light?
@@mikhailyaremkiv No, u aren’t teachable. Not even the man in this video. The foundations of the church must be shaken, another reformation that corrects the mistakes of the first. Ill raise my kids and teach them to see rightfully. Meanwhile, ill wait for that to occur
I was just thinking about this how Jews reject Jesus because he’s not the political figure they thought He would be. Yet He is the literal King all of things.
Thank you for your message. It's clear and articulate and full of proof from the Scripture. I still have lots of questions but you are slowly helping me understand the Scripture. Maybe next time though, you smoke at home, VERY DISTRACTING and unhelpful to your weaker brothers.
I like Jeff’s preaching. I don’t even care that he’s smoking cigar. I’m just not sure why he’s doing so in the video.🧐 Maybe he explains it in the video? I haven’t listened to this one yet. I just saw the title/photo and was confused.
Maybe people should close there eyes if Jeff smoking a cigar takes your focus off the sermon. We have become so fickle, straining at gnats... “we can all spot a rotten egg, but none can lay a good one” Spurgeon loved to blaze one down to the glory of God. Amen
@@angelakatsapas7894 I don't think it is about being fragile. Whatever he is doing is not credible. Let's close our eyes and think about Apostle Paul smoking or drinking while preaching to possible pagan or Christian, I don't see that happening. 🤔
Please come to Crossroads Church if your ever in the New York , New Jersey area Hamburg, N.J. please we need your teaching pastor Durban we are a small church in need.
Postmil ends in universalism and political revolt. God will bring judgement on this. There is much truth in dealing with the prophetic fulfillment of especially, Matt. 24, as it works out with 70AD. But, this is full preterism which entirely evaporates if Revelation is written AFTER 70AD.
21:35 ... FACTS! Genesis 32: 12 reminds me of Revelation 7: 9 ("After these things I looked, and here was an enormous crowd that no one could count, made up of persons from every nation, tribe, people, and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb dressed in long white robes, and with palm branches in their hands.") - this is referring to the 144,000 Jews who will be sealed to lead the others in their tribes. 12,000 sealed in each tribe. The 'enormous crowd that no one can count' proves that many more than 144k will be with us in the New Jerusalem.
If the man smoking a cigar is a stumbling block for you, you may want to revisit Deliverance, you will see many people in life smoking all around you and if it doesn't trigger you seeing it from anyone else in the world, or on tv, then it shouldn't trigger you here. Don't miss out on an amazing teaching that will bless your soul, over a cigar. But I cracked up every single time he lit and puffed it, I can feel the comment section just blowing up 😂
That’s a huge yikes on the legalism. How many complaining about the cigar eat fried food and refined sugar on the regular basis. Or are wildly out of shape…
So, whats wrong with smoking and drinking? I don't understand. I have noticed however, that the same Christians who have a problem with others smoking and drinking, they themselves engage in gossip, criticism, sarcasm, complaining, nagging, arguing, excuse-making, gloating, arrogance, fear, worry, anger, bitterness, hate, revenge, money lust, impatience, cowardice, irresponsibility, and thoughtlessness, among many other sins. So who are they to judge others? Maybe they should get the log out of their own eye, so that they can see to get the speck out of their brothers eye.
@@mbassett11 yea I mean getting high or drunk to the point if intoxication I get the criticism on that. But cigars and cigarettes the main argument for that is to take care of your body cuz it’s Gods temple. So don’t act like you take that seriously when you eat bad food and don’t exercise that’s my take. I agree w you to an extent also, we need ti be careful when judging others that we aren’t guilty of the same. Some of those things you mentioned are worth pointing out because they are blatantly sinful. But we must be humble when we criticize.
@@gavinfortin1584 I’m glad your not my neighbor. I’m glad your not around my children. I’ve only got one thing to say to you… First remove the log from your own eye, so you can see clearly enough to remove the speck from your brothers eye.
@@mbassett11 what do you mean? What am I judging incorrectly? If the Bible says it’s wrong, it’s wrong it has nothing to do w my judgement. That’s a very weak and traditional view on Christianity where we don’t call sin what it is cuz it’s “judging”. God tells us to judge rightly
@@gavinfortin1584 @Gavin Fortin cigars and cigarettes are not the same thing. You don't inhale cigars and it's not an addiction. You're being legalistic, man. The Bible even says if it's in for you then don't do it, but it may not be a sin for someone else, so you shouldn't try to profitize your own Gospel according to your personal do's and don'ts regarding freedom in Christ
I'll never understand in a million years how anyone can read the NT and Revelation and bevievel in Post mill. That has to be the hardest sell in the universe, its the complete and total opposite of everything written in the NT and Revelation. Its clear to me people embrace it because they just have a really difficult time believeing the prophets. Its not about not understanding them because the words are pretty clear, its about struggling to accept what they say. SO they latch on to the idea that none of them actually mean what they say. And of course if they don't mean what they say then they can mean anything to anyone.
Brother Jeff Durbin [in love & sincerity], you are sinning for smoking a cigar during this public Christian presentation. Would this be acceptable while evangelizing the public square or teaching children as well? No, it would clearly not be Biblically wise. What makes this a sin instead of just being unwise is because there are genuine Christians who believe this behavior is sinful, and the Bible has already addressed this scenario in 1 Corinthians 8:10-13 LSB For if someone sees you, who have knowledge, dining in an idol’s temple, will not his conscience, if he is weak, be built up to eat things sacrificed to idols? [11] For through your knowledge he who is weak is ruined, the brother for whose sake Christ died. [12] And in that way, by sinning against the brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, YOU SIN AGAINST CHRIST. [13] Therefore, if food causes my brother to stumble, I will never eat meat again-ever, so that I will not cause my brother to stumble.
@@cockroachv He can do what ever he/He/Cool wants? How about he has in his hand a porn magazine? Would that prove his "freedom in Christ" then? No its not a distration. Rather it is an InYourFace/distration. Drug up and abide in Him/him, kids.
Having a cigar in his hand and smoking it and teaching the Word of God is being irreverent. Most times he preaches with his tattoos exposed . He stumbles the Christians who don’t know his past. DO NOT STUMBLE your weaker brother ! Get you act together and present yourself a respectable man of the Word I will no longer watch him A real shame that he lets his smoking addiction get the better of him !
What a distraction, Ihad trouble focusing on tyour message. Can Jeff explain the purpose of smoking inside a building with perhaps other people and maybe children present?
I don’t think there were children present. This looks like the studio where they do their radio broadcast. I agree its a distraction & I wasn’t even watching, only listening while doing chores. I’m curious if it’s a shtick of some sort??! Otherwise I think he should have taken a break.
I LOVE a great handmade cigar! They’ve been proven to have no statistical significance towards your health when enjoyed in moderation. But, I agree this felt like a prop. But to you that call it a sin and condemn I would caution you to be very careful about what you call a sin. It’s easy to call the way of the Pharisee.
1 John 4 Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God:
This is poor form, Jeff. You may have a right to light up but, what profit does it do for many who YOU are causing to stumble with this behaviour. The law of love shuold dominate. Repent.
@@johnf6267 Just because one feels at liberty to smoke a cigar, maybe one shouldn’t do it whilst teaching scripture. Especially when the whole world is the potential audience. Many Christians don’t believe anyone should smoke, so why risk offending them when you can smoke off camera and not distract from your teaching? Not a sin issue as much as a wisdom issue.
I had respect for this preacher/teacher until he started to want to look cool with this unhealthy has nothing to do with the gospel CIGAR in his hand! There is nothing edifying about smoking PERIOD! God bless everyone and please don't stumble because of others!
I appreciate some of Jeff's convictions; his apologetics, his stand on abortion, his mormon videos. I've even attended his church a number of times across town just because I admire him so much. But he cashed in alot of his chips with the stupidity of bringing his bad habit into this video. It smacks of something more juvenile than anything else. It suggests, Hey guys looky at me how cool I am. I can smoke this and it's really cool. My church folks just chuckle and say: "well that's just Jeff and he's really cool" No this is not cool, I don't really mean the smoking but rather the attempt to show what a nonconforming cool guy he thinks he is. COME ON JEFF YOU'VE GOT TO BE BETTER THAN THIS. But then again maybe not.
According to this, (postmill eschatology) Christ's kingdom initiative has been a colossal failure for 2000ys. - the problem with postmill is postmill. Great book on the true nature of the kingdom, The Majesty on High by S,M. Baugh.
So, whats wrong with smoking and drinking? I don't understand. I have noticed however, that the same Christians who have a problem with others smoking and drinking, they themselves engage in gossip, criticism, sarcasm, complaining, nagging, arguing, excuse-making, gloating, arrogance, fear, worry, anger, bitterness, hate, revenge, money lust, impatience, cowardice, irresponsibility, and thoughtlessness, among many other sins. So who are they to judge others? Maybe they should get the log out of their own eye, so that they can see to get the speck out of their brothers eye.
@@sofiabravo1994 The point is that many people think that smoking and drinking are sinful. Show me where the Bible says that smoking/drinking is wrong. The “religious” Christians “judge” people for actions that are not a sin! Religious Christians like you. Christianity, good! Religion, bad!
The internet introduces me too a parstor giving a sermon smoking a cigar....my neighborhood introduces me too rainbow flag, lghbt, abortion approving churches....i know where I get my spiritual food from... although in my opinion sermons on loneliness and depression would have more empathy delivered by somone who has actually suffered from these con ditions. ....most importantly the videos outside the abortion slaughter houses are a commendable way too spread the gospel.....
I also enjoy a nice watch once and awhile but how foolish this is to wear one whilst giving a teaching. This could cause so many people to stumble or dismiss him, absolutely unwise.
Jeff Durbin I and not against a believer who smokes and drinks actionably Charles Spurgeon did But it was kept from the general public so to speak for good reason your 'advertising' it as you do is really STUPID it's certainly is a stumbling block for young believer's stop it Jeff your teaching is good and your eschatology good but not your 'ADVERTSEMENTS' stop it
I know for sure that if you are a pastor given God's word you should not be smoking when given God word look at David wilkerson talk about day of age that people and pastor are going to do their own things a new Gospel I have nothing to say
Just curious…how many of you who are so fixated (in a negative way) on Jeff enjoying a cigar have spent time witnessing to Mormons on the street, or sharing the love of Jesus with young women who are contemplating killing their unborn child? One of the most heinous characteristics of original sin is the deep seated legalism that resides in each of us…sin renders us nearly incapable of grasping grace and freedom…many of you reading this right now are thinking that I am antinomian…which merely serves to prove my point…
Witnessing to mormons is not what justifies Jefg Durbin nor does it take away his sinful ungodly example to others. This man is a fool of fools and is storing up heaps of wrath fod himself. If you love or even just like Jeff Durbin you should pray his eyes be opened to his gross errors in regards to his ungodly unbiblical conduct.
But why stop at a cigar? Why not a blunt? Smokes in teachings, cusses in sermons, not realizing holiness is the supreme form of rebellion in a fallen world.
Bro, i struggled with this sin every day. It is My battles, it torna me apart. Smoking.. and now that i click no this and se le Jeff with a cigar... I'm very confused. Very confused very very. It would take los of scripture to reconcilie how i struggled with smoking and brothers in christ Ok with smoking. I am so confused.
this man needs a KJV, we wouldnt even be having this discussion. matt 24 does bot say end of an age it says end of the world. So does matt 13:39, 28:20, and Luke 17:30
He ‘cuts the crap’???? Really??? This guy is adamantly opposed to abortion yet believes in a version of God who sends BILLIONS of his own children into a lake of fire, to be burned and tormented for all eternity. What a joke this guy is....
Jesus came to give us eternal life and save us from our own consequences of disobeying the creator of the law of gravity creator of every scientific law we have discovered as humans .. the creator is the one that makes the rules.. not his creation
@@JS-gz2nw God does not send any of His children to hell. People in general are heading for hell on their own. God seeks His children out and rescues them from hell. But not all people are His children only those who believe in Jesus are ADOPTED as children of God
@@jlgoodwin9856 You are kinda missing my point. Jeff Durbin and his 'end abortion now' group are trying to emphasize that we as humans must care for our children at all costs, and NEVER to sacrifice their lives. This said, he has NO problem believing in a God who doesn't do the same. If God is as good and all-loving as we say he is, then there would be a VERY small portion of souls who would be separated from him for all of eternity in a fiery furnace. God would keep working on souls long after this life-time. Otherwise literally BILLIONS of his children are being tortured right now, and the number will only grow exponentially in time. That is a SICK understanding of God. And if you - as a Christian - don't like the concept of a bigger and more loving God who rescues a greater number of his kids from eternal torment, then there is something seriously wrong....
@@JS-gz2nw I don’t know you but I want you to know I love you and care about you. I know I personally I have a tendency to come off cold and blunt but please know that’s not my intent. But the argument behind that statement is one of emotion and not of an understanding of how God has revealed himself or how he operates. Not everyone created by God is his child but there’s a group that are (John 1:12, Romans 9:8). The reason being for this punishment isn’t some bloodlust or some sadistic pleasure in watching people burn. It’s justice, it is the warranted because we are all guilty of cosmic treason against an eternal being. The same God who punishes the guilty is also the same God who loves so much that he takes away the wrong doing of His people. This is an incredibly over simplified version of the gospel I just want you to know that I’m not giving you everything. You may call it “sick” but I assure you if you put any of us under a microscope, or if you could even take a gander into the mind of a person (myself included) you would see that the heart apart from God is wicked and Hell would be justified. In fact this God that demands justice is so merciful to humanity that he has not just wiped us out, and he even made a promise not to do so. Now onto the topic of abortion we’ll simply of God is desiring justice in the land and will call for justice in eternity then we as His people are to hate what he hates and love what he loves and in this case that’s to fight for the right of those who bear his image to even exists. As I stated above God has made a promise not to wipe out humanity and that justice that he seeks would be the same if for both the children of God and those that are not his children. I know this was posted months ago but I do hope to strike up a dialogue with you. I will be praying for you
Jeff Durbin is simply following in the footsteps of his Calvinist hero cigar smoking CH Spurgeon who smoked for “the glory of God”. When DL Moody lectured him about it, Spurgeon pointed to Moody’s portly belly and said “I’ll quit cigar smoking when you cut back on your eating”.
I may not agree with everything you do or say, a cigar is not as distraction as those ads. Gentile Christians made there own interpreted sin like the pharisees did and start accusing while they cause their brothers to stumble by eating unhealthy foods.
Revelation 3:10 10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. Tereo ek tay-reh'-o Verb NAS Word Usage - Total: 71 1. to attend to carefully, take care of a. to guard b. metaph. to keep, one in the state in which he is c. to observe d. to reserve: to undergo something Ek ek Preposition NAS Word Usage - Total: 62 1. out of, from, by, away from
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience, Ephesians 2 : 1-2 NKJV You have made him a little lower than the angels; You have crowned him with glory and honor, And set him over the works of Your hands. You have put all things in subjection under his feet." For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not put under him. But now we do not yet see all things put under him. Hebrews 2 : 7-8 NKJV Now when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, He said to him, "You are not far from the kingdom of God." But after that no one dared question Him. Mark 12 : 34 NKJV
Nah. Post mil thinks things are going to progressively get better. Pre mil thinks thing are going to get very, very bad., before Jesus comes back. The Bible supports pre mil.
I'll never understand in a million years how anyone can read the NT and Revelation and believe in Post mill. That has to be the hardest sell in the universe, its the complete and total opposite of everything written in the NT and Revelation. Its clear to me people embrace it because they just have a really difficult time believing the prophets. Its not about not understanding them because the words are pretty clear, its about struggling to accept what they say. SO they latch on to the idea that none of them actually mean what they say. And of course if they don't mean what they say then they can mean anything to anyone.
@@eastlandcc4888 ok....so being a glut is also a sin isn’t it ? IMO a pastor smoking and damaging the temple ( his body ) his never a good look.....if you think it’s cool, then that’s fine but I don’t think it adds anything to this pastor and his ministry
I wonder if you guys would have an issue with him drinking some wine here and speaking the word? Or maybe eating some cake? He's in the comfort of his own property not in the presence of anyone except on video he can smoke if he wants to, smoking is not any worse than drinking wine or eating cake in fact eating cake is much much much worse as sugar is actually a extremely deadly and potent drug, yet is it a sin? The answer is no and actually in moderation it can glorify God like in a birthday or in a celebration or in a day of rest, I believe Jeff is being wise by forcing you to confront your own sin when he does videos like this because it exposes your own hypocrisy yet you don't even see it...
Abstain from all appearance of evil. (1Th. 5:22) There’s nothing about smoking that would make one think they are glorifying God. At the very least, it’s hurting the body God gave you and sets a bad example for children. At the very worst, you’re dishonoring God.
@Being & Consciousness1611, do you have this same amount of concern regarding junk food or overeating? That's very harmful to the body as well, yet no one seems to have a problem with it.
@@BeingConsciousness-yw3zwHow about posting on RUclips? Many people comment on RUclips to push very sinful ideas or for their own vainglory. I think you should stop posting on RUclips so as to avoid the appearance of evil. Or you should repent of your legalism and advocate for the laws God actually gave rather then burdening people with whatever seems right in your own eyes.
@@oracleoftroy I’m not sure I’m fully understanding what you’re saying. If you think posting on RUclips is evil, then why are you posting on RUclips? Legalism is adding to the finished work of Christ in order to obtain salvation. Nobody can secure righteousness by following the law. Following the law has nothing to do with salvation. It doesn’t get you saved, it doesn’t keep you saved, and it doesn’t prove you’re saved. So I’m not a legalist. God’s word is the standard, not what is right in my own eyes. What’s right is God’s word. Defiling one’s body with smoke is not honoring to God, unless you know something I don’t.
. Woman, you are set free from your infirmity." Then he put his hands on her, and immediately she straightened up and praised God. Indignant because Jesus had healed on Sabbath, the synagogue ruler said to the people, "There are six days for work. So come and be healed on those days, not on the Sabbath."
If Jeff smoking a cigar is causing you to stumble, then don’t watch the video. In fact you should probably get off the internet period… a cigar is the least of your worries, there’s much worse temptations on here. Don’t be legalistic, creating laws where God hasn’t spoken. If smoking a cigar is a sin (which it’s not imo) then so is drinking coffee or soda or junk food in general, as all can lead to bad health if done habitually. I understand the weaker brother argument but the whole point was to push the weaker brother into maturity. Paul even rebukes those Jews who were trying to force dietary laws on the gentiles, aka being legalistic. I’m not saying you should light up a cigar in person right next to a brother who was abusing tobacco, but at the same time a weaker brother must mature at some point and can’t expect everyone in the faith to put unnecessary yokes upon themselves and burdens because of their lack of self control. The bottom line is temptation is all around us, that’s why we must level up and put self control into practice by the strength of the Spirit of God. Be disciplined, we’re disciples.
@@shakazulu9746 it’s idiotic!
They're right when they say don't read the comments. So many unbiblical emotions getting hurt here. Jeff knows what he's doing. Praise God for him.
Yes he does he is bringing into disrepute the wonderful Word.
The name above all names he is making a mockery of.
And he knows exactly what he is doing.
Ain't he a cheeky devil.
“Unbiblical Emotions”-great phrase. And so rampant. Thanks for this.
@@1badplayer
Where is the proof of that accusation?
@@malachi7948 Where are your eyes to see or ears to hear.
Anyway all egotists are devil's, it's in the description.
@@1badplayer You are very wicked for saying these things. Repent of your sin!
i used to be addicted to nicotine heavily for years (as well as hard drugs) before the LORD saved me and watching professed brethren smoking while talking about the LORD has definitely been a stumblingblock for me. Please just consider the weaker brethren like myself. one video i watched i couldnt even hear what was being said because i was fixated on the cigar. im not saying smoking a cigar is a sin - however when it causes others to stumble it may be wiser to reconsider doing it in a context like this. Although one may have liberty to smoke cigars it may cause a weak brother who just came out of this addiction to be tempted to go back to smoking (not for recreation but in a sinful and harmful way). i personally know that i dont want to cause a brother to stumble in this way and just ask whoever reads this to consider my perspective. in no way am i trying to take away Christian liberty, but i think there can be a time and a place for certain liberties to be exercised out of the public eye out of love for others. love you all.
Yes, the New Calvinist movement is taking Christian liberties too far
@sanders194539 not sure I agree. One pastor smoking one cigar hardly constitutes an entire movement. I've been reformed for years, and this is the first time I've seen anything like this. But yes, a total disregard of the Romans 14 instruction given about not being a stumbling block to the weaker brother or sister. These liberties should be done in private between them and God .
Well said Steven
Smoking is sin my brother. I am going to prove it live tomorrow at 6pm on my channel. The apostles teaching ministry
This is a common feature of the theonomic postmillennialism bearded Calvinist crowd. It is meant to appeal to the rebel counter culture young male, and seem like a cooler more masculine form of Christianity. For too long, the weak, feminine American evangelical form of the church, with its “felt needs” and psychological therapeutic religion, created an environment where men coming out of adolescence didn’t feel like they belonged in the church. This new form (going back to the “Young Restless Reformed” movement with Driscoll and others like him) is the “equal and opposite reaction” to that unbiblical imbalance. But Christ never flaunted his liberty in the face of the weak and spiritually needy. He only went out of His way to offend people when they were self-righteousness and placing themselves in spiritual authority over others (scribes, Pharisees…). Biblical manhood has the masculinity of Christ as its standard. 🙏
I am on a journey to fully embrace the doctrines of grace, I even grow a beard. But I worry that I will have to start smoking cigars to progress in sanctification.
(((( don't inhale .. just taste ))))
As soon as i read, 'I even grow a beard', im like, oh no.. wait, i thout the YR&R Died Off/Out!-)
lol-)
LOL.
Pipes is where its at!
Not sure if it’s deliberate but how much does Jeff look like Spurgeon?!!😮😂
Joy to the world, the Lord is come. Let earth receive her King. Let every heart prepare Him room. Let Heaven and nature sing.
Joy to the world, the Savior reigns. Let men their songs employ. Let fields and floods, rocks, hills and plains repeat the sounding joy.
No more let sins and sorrows grow, nor thorns infest the ground. He comes to make His blessings known far as the curse is found.
He rules the earth with truth and grace, and makes the nations prove the glories of His righteousness and wonders of His love!
Bible prophecies are continuing to be fulfilled. Every knee will bow & every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord. 💄🎂🍯
I very much enjoy your teaching, but even though you have liberty to smoke that stogy, I find it very offensive and it makes me not want to send people to listen to you. Come out from among them and be ye holy/ separate. You look like the world whom I distrust. I have liberty to drink alcohol and not get drunk, but I have seen the effect of Christians drinking in front of non-Christians and it is destructive to the name of Christ. Jeff, you are an ambassador for God and causing offence is not being and being a good ambassador, as I see it. Thanks for thinking about this.
If you start a cigar at the beginning of the video and take a puff every time he says "crown rights," you'll finish it by the end
I'll try it!😂😂😎😎
Jeff, you got a chuckle out of me when you said," don't worry, I'm not gonna curse."
Nah. Post mil thinks things are going to progressively get better. Pre mil thinks thing are going to get very, very bad., before Jesus comes back. The Bible supports pre mil.
Yeah it’s super funny when people joke about something that lands you in hell.
“But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. For this you know, that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience.”
Ephesians 5:3-6 NKJV
Let NO ONE deceive you with empty words!
@@abideintheWord So you’re saying the Bible is sinful?
@@justchilling704 huh?
@@abideintheWord The Bible has words that today are socially considered curse words. So based on your logic of cursing somehow being a sin, that would mean the Bible is endorsing sin. The reality is that cursing in and of itself is not sinful, it can be, but isn’t always.
Whats insane is if people just would read the scriptures fully and in context they would see these things , example Matthew 27-51 , mark 15-33 and Luke 23-44 are all cross-referenced to revelations 6-12.
What could you possibly be trying to say while smoking a cigar? Who are you winning? What’s the message? How about not causing a brother to stumble??? Completely ridiculous of a “pastor” to smoke and especially to smoke while “preaching”. Shameless!!
Doesn’t the cigar open the floodgates for people who follow your teaching, to begin vaping, cigarettes, and perhaps pot? I wanted to hear your teaching on post mill theology but the cigar definitely threw things off..
You need to really question your views on your faith if you're going to be that swayed from listening to sound theology because of the mere sight of a cigar. Also, do you really believe that somebody would be so impressionable that they would see this video and decide to go out and try smoking because they saw someone else do it?
@@Antnj81 his idea is right, maybe wrong execution. There may be spiritual babies, very probable because its the internet and anyone can see any video. I love jeff durbin and his techings. But u dont think its wise to smoke a cigar when brothers and sisters can be swayed o tempted. Like when paul says that we shouldnt drink withe a brother who may struggle with wine.
@@Antnj81 When you claim to be a Christian, you immediately open yourself up to people watching to see just what this means to be a Christian. The Bible says to shun the very appearance of evil. Anything that causes health issues with our bodies, which are temples of the Holy Spirit, should be shunned. I guarantee, Jeff smoking will tell some that smoking is okay, even for a Christian.
If anything, it provides a great role model for avoiding legalistic heresies, especially given how prone Baptists historically have been to that error.
Thank you for posting this video. I reject pre-millennial dispensationalism 1000%. I can't say I have fully arrived at what my eschatological position is, but I am beginning to lean toward post-millennial. I appreciate Jeff Durbin's ministry very much.
I’m in the same boat. I’m 30 and this is all new stuff to me though when I look back at my church life as a youth I can spit the dispensationalism all over 😅 I was told its all going to burn!! 😊
Nah. Post mil thinks things are going to progressively get better. Pre mil thinks thing are going to get very, very bad., before Jesus comes back. The Bible supports pre mil.
Ok but... Premillennialism isn't dispensational.
Historic Premillennialism was the eschatology of the church before Constantine.
I repeat. Premillennialism IS NOT Dispensational.
Dispensationalism just made its own version of it. And it's really sad to see the overreaction to it lead to a rejection of premillennialism.
Many of us have the same story. All I can say is keep reading that Bible and come on home!
@Joshua Bigbee Thank you! Very tired of having that label placed on Pre Mill
Excellent lesson, next time could you please let us know which cigar you are smoking and recommend a craft beer one can enjoy while listening?
I was thinking the same! It’s obviously a Maduro 😂
I also enjoy a cigar once and awhile but how foolish this is to smoke one whilst giving a teaching. This could cause so many people to stumble or dismiss him, absolutely unwise.
Seems like half the people on here are talking about his cigar smoking. Interesting.
@@Garfinkel64 It's hilarious that people are so quick to point out a secondary issue and say, "this is sinful" rather than listening to what he's saying.
@@jacobgarcia4826 it’s not that, it’s more of the appearance of a man teaching from the Word of God while promoting smoking. It’s hypocritical.
I say this as I smoke a cigarette, but I’m also not in his position.
I completely agree. He is flaunting his freedom in a rebellious fashion.
@@jacobgarcia4826 just INTERRESTING, He is supposed to reflect HOLINESS....SURPRISED YES....
The longer he talks, all I can think is that YOUR CIGAR IS GONNA GO OUT!! PUFF THAT THANG ONCE OR TWICE BEFORE IT GOES OUT!! lol 😆
Whats Jeffs Cigar of choice?
Bad to his health
All things are permissible but not all things are profitable. Also, we ought not be a stumbling block to a weaker brother and not use our own freedom and liberty to become a rock of offence to a weaker brother. So, while I personally don't care if you smoke or drink, I just know that it could offend and bother a brother or sister. So I would not do it in front of them, and in this case, I would not do it for a video teaching. I don't think Jeff Durbin would do this if he was standing in a pulpit teaching in an actual church sanctuary. Nor do I think Spurgeon doing that either. It is all a point of context. How you are perceived in your attire and locale, affects how your well your message is listened to and accepted. Lower the possible distractions in order to be a more effective communicator. Love the content though.
So a glass of scotch with the next video!
He’s not smoking a cigarette, that’s different. Take it easy on the pastor.
@@joeluna2930 what he is really smoking ?
i would agre even i don't think that smoking a cigares is "big sin " ,but think it's destructive for a weak and would make some people stumble over the message . I love Jeff's teachings but my opinion that here is big extraggeration especially when it comes to sharing bible message ..
@@vitaliiukraine4662 I can see if he was drinking or smoking pot. That’s way different
So outrageous! Smoking a cigar and teaching the Bible. Turning the grace of God into lewdness......
I don't know what is more distracting. The cigar or the sanctimonious people whining about it.
Tobacco is never mentioned in the Bible. Get over it.
People can disprove of what they want to disprove of. Get over it.
There are alot of things not mentioned in the Bible, cocaine and heroin aren't mentioned either. What if Jeff was snorting a big fat line of Charlie, would you still be saying get over it as it's never mentioned in the Bible?
Hey Jeff what is the cigar all about? Is it an attention getter just wondering why? I know we are to eat & drink & do all we do for the glory of God but does that include smoking a cigar while handling Gods Word? It seems to be a poor example of one who proclaims Christ. How do you justify it before your congregation?
@@eastlandcc4888 It is the example that it sets forth to children. If our pastor thinks it is okay to smoke a cigar while preaching God's holy Word what is wrong with me smoking cigars, weed all of which can lead to many other vices. 1Cor.. 11:1 say IMITATE me as I fIMITATE the Lord. What we do as ministers, as parents and as a church influence those who look to us. By using the milkshake example shows that you missed the point that I was trying to make. When the church loses sight that the Christian faith is a counter culture to the world she loses sight of her ministry of influence. Pauls letters to Timothy show that ministers are required to set forth an example for others to follow.
@@eastlandcc4888 You must not understand what being an example means, I'm not able to help you, moving on.
@@eastlandcc4888 Afraid the onus is on you to explain why it is OK.
@@stevehansel5080 Do you think drinking alcohol is a bad example for kids or unbelievers?
@@stevehansel5080 You are in the right this men so called pastor is not a true follower of Christ. He needs to repent, and stop deceiving people in to thinking it’s okay. We serve a holy God with out sin. Keep your eyes on Jesus keep your eyes on Jesus. God is really exposing these false teachers !
Must be lots of independent fundamentalists on here who cannot understand liberty
@Albert E yes. Pastor Durbin isn’t sinning by smoking , if so please provide a verse, concept or a example of inductive reasoning?
@Samuel Lev please explain to me how smoking , tattoos & martial arts remove blamelessness?
@Samuel Lev so you can declare things without explaining them? Wouldn’t that make you God?
1 Corinthians 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak.
Galatians 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
I’m getting an 1800s preacher vibes with the beard and cigar lol
Ehh.. idk about the cigar while you're teaching brother lol I understand you're not in the pulpit but you're having to interrupt yourself to relight and puff puff to get it going.. eh it just seems questionable ya know.. all things are permissible, but not all things are beneficial 😅
Jesus stated His Kingdom is NOT of this world for if it was His followers would fight for it. Postmil thought leads to political chaos and mayhem. You, Jeff, have even stated you are seeking CULTURAL dominion. That is NOT the Gospel nor, the intended outcome of spreading the Gospel. Romans 8:29 is the Biblical, true plan of God.
He's likely a closet Jesuit.
Victory cigar.
This dude is seriously smoking a stogie while preaching, and, as I was listening while driving and didn't see the video, just listening to the sermon, I was smoking a stogie.
Legend.
It actually a warning sign to me. Jeff Durbin and the New-Calvinist movement appear to be taking Christian liberties too far. This isnt legalism. We should present a conservative image when preaching the Gospel.
@sanders194539 like the Jewish leaders did? It's his conviction to smoke cigars. whether people like it or not we each have our own sanctification to focus on.
@@alanbanfield3884If Jeff Durbin never opened his pie-hole, based on his physical demeanour and the places he likes to hang out with his buddies, I would have guessed he is a 1 percenter member of the Hells Angels or Banditos!
Since our bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, I really don't think we should be doing anything that degrades our bodies; smoking causes cancer.
@@Mike-qt7jpYou are citing a passage about sexual immorality, but I didn't see him do anything less than gentlemanly to that cigar.
Wow Jeff , why would you do this man?
It brought tears of sadness to my heart. Paul said: “Wherefore, if meat make my brother to offend, I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend.”
1 Corinthians 8:13 KJV
So Paul was ready to never even eat meat then for anybody to stumble over him doing anything. You know that you can offend a lot of people by doing this. And after all what is the point really? I don’t think you’re doing it out of Love, which is supposed to be our motivation in every work we do.
I agree, incredibly sad thing to have done.
We also have to be carful of preaching in support of the tyranny of the weaker brother.
Haha preaching while enjoying a stogie! Very nice
As a fulfilled-covenant Christian, I can say you are spot on! Keep on teaching!
Nah. Post mil thinks things are going to progressively get better. Pre mil thinks thing are going to get very, very bad., before Jesus comes back. The Bible supports pre mil.
@@skinnie2838 It amazes me, that while most dispensational preachers understand that the events foretold to occur in MT 23 and 24 center around, and come to completion, at the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem in 70ad; then have the misguided fortitude to suddenly jump 2000 years into the future when Jesus includes his coming and the gathering right there within the very same texts! And it expressed as being IMMEDIATELY after the events in the previous verses!
Because of the rise of Dispensationalism in the Church in the early 1900s, with its futuristic perspective of the New Testament prophecies; are we supposed to accept their premise that the first century believers, all the New Testament writers, the Holy Spirit, Jesus the Christ Himself, AND even God the Father, ALL got it completely and totally wrong, as to the timing and nature of the events foretold in holy writ? Especially when they ALL held to the perspective that their fulfillment was to be in that first century? Well, I am not persuaded by spiritual blindness!
All of the New Testament writers, inspired by the Holy Spirit, wrote their texts to their first century readers, prophesying that the resurrection and the coming of the Lord were to occur in that generation then living and breathing at that time. There was no confusion or misunderstanding on the matter! Now, here is what we MUST conclude: Either the resurrection and the coming of the Lord did happen when and how they said it would; or God just flat out lied to them!
And if God did lie; what else might he have lied about? And can you really trust the bible which you don't believe is actually true and accurate, since you don't believe those prophecies have happened? Do you see how your believing that the bible, with its prophecies, are both true and accurate is the paramount of your faith? You must choose one way or the other! God requires that you believe what he has preserved. Choose..........
@@makarov138 The Bible is very clear in revelation that its going to get really bad. If you havent noticed things are getting progressively worse. The leftist woke brigade are getting hungrier every day the more and more people they get to apologize to them. Its going to get bad. Buckle up and trust in Jesus.
@@skinnie2838 But that's the problem. You only think you are trusting in Jesus. You really don't believe what he both said and taught to his disciples! He said and taught that his coming would occur before they all died out. MT 16:28. And before THAT generation passed away. MT 24:34. Your misunderstanding other scriptures, and then applying them to what Jesus said, inferring that they are incorrect. You must put the words Jesus said FIRST! And then understand those other scriptures based on what Jesus said. Then you can truly trust in Jesus. Right now, you actually only believe some things he taught, but not the whole. You need the whole.
@@makarov138 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. (Matthew 24:12)
At some point, the “lawless one” will come, and he will come in power, with false signs and wonders. He will be so impressive, so powerful, that many unbelievers will be deceived by him. The wickedness promoted and perpetuated by the lawless one will be on a colossal, sickening scale.
It’s already bad, and it’s going to get worse.
You’re trying too hard to be cool.
You’re not Joe Rogan bro.
I don’t think the Bible mandates that we never smoke cigars. But it’s a weird thing to do while you teach. Doesn’t make him evil, just a weird choice to make.
Yeah just pretty off putting … seems like he just wants to look so cool like “hey guys look at me I’m smoking, I’m so cool” … but aye maybe we can’t judge …
@@Muzicboy3
You sound like a whiny, petulant leftist. Having a cigar is like having a cup of coffee.
The cigar is very distracting
Respectfully, I think that's a personal issue on your part.
@@jacobgarcia4826 I will not argue with you about that. It is a personal issue.
Isaac, I just have to say that was a mature response. It’s one thing to say is not your jam but something entirely different to accuse him of sin like many are doing. Good one you for not conflating your preferences with sin.
Then divert your eyes.
Bring forth the royal diadem and crown Him Lord of all.
Lov to talk and share a cigar with you one day
Classic modern Christians. They dont listen to what his saying and look only at the cigar. How foolish. Then they ask “wHy Is ThErE nO rEvIvAl???”. Maybe cause u see the wrong things, and if one is blind how can he or she guide others to the Light?
Teach us petty modern christians oh enlightened one!
@@mikhailyaremkiv No, u aren’t teachable. Not even the man in this video. The foundations of the church must be shaken, another reformation that corrects the mistakes of the first. Ill raise my kids and teach them to see rightfully. Meanwhile, ill wait for that to occur
Agreed!
I was just thinking about this how Jews reject Jesus because he’s not the political figure they thought He would be. Yet He is the literal King all of things.
Thank you for your message. It's clear and articulate and full of proof from the Scripture. I still have lots of questions but you are slowly helping me understand the Scripture. Maybe next time though, you smoke at home, VERY DISTRACTING and unhelpful to your weaker brothers.
Kingdom now.
Ain’t nothin like a good cigar !
Zechariah chp8
Micah chp4
Most clear of all Romans 11:25-28.
you distract this great message with that cigar. should listen just audio.
I like Jeff’s preaching. I don’t even care that he’s smoking cigar. I’m just not sure why he’s doing so in the video.🧐 Maybe he explains it in the video? I haven’t listened to this one yet. I just saw the title/photo and was confused.
I honestly didn't even hear what he said. I was so confused with the cigar.
Maybe people should close there eyes if Jeff smoking a cigar takes your focus off the sermon. We have become so fickle, straining at gnats... “we can all spot a rotten egg, but none can lay a good one”
Spurgeon loved to blaze one down to the glory of God. Amen
Spurgeon gave up cigars after they started using his name in their advertising.
@@yakapo999 I think Jeff’s safe in that regard haha 😂
indeed, its actually quite pathetic that people are so fragile that they will disregard what someone has to say because of a cigar
Exactly.
@@angelakatsapas7894 I don't think it is about being fragile. Whatever he is doing is not credible. Let's close our eyes and think about Apostle Paul smoking or drinking while preaching to possible pagan or Christian, I don't see that happening. 🤔
What cigar are you smoking?
Please come to Crossroads Church if your ever in the New York , New Jersey area Hamburg, N.J. please we need your teaching pastor Durban we are a small church in need.
I struggle to find the words when I see the smoking. Sorry man, it just does not fit, it never did. Not sure what you were thinking.
Postmil ends in universalism and political revolt. God will bring judgement on this. There is much truth in dealing with the prophetic fulfillment of especially, Matt. 24, as it works out with 70AD. But, this is full preterism which entirely evaporates if Revelation is written AFTER 70AD.
He is of the cruciform, thus he cannot die the true death.
21:35 ... FACTS! Genesis 32: 12 reminds me of Revelation 7: 9 ("After these things I looked, and here was an enormous crowd that no one could count, made up of persons from every nation, tribe, people, and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb dressed in long white robes, and with palm branches in their hands.") - this is referring to the 144,000 Jews who will be sealed to lead the others in their tribes. 12,000 sealed in each tribe. The 'enormous crowd that no one can count' proves that many more than 144k will be with us in the New Jerusalem.
What is the point of the cigar. You r not even smoking it. Is it just for effect. Ridiculous
Oh I see you trying to act like Spurgeon. Come on grow up
If the man smoking a cigar is a stumbling block for you, you may want to revisit Deliverance, you will see many people in life smoking all around you and if it doesn't trigger you seeing it from anyone else in the world, or on tv, then it shouldn't trigger you here. Don't miss out on an amazing teaching that will bless your soul, over a cigar. But I cracked up every single time he lit and puffed it, I can feel the comment section just blowing up 😂
That’s a huge yikes on the legalism. How many complaining about the cigar eat fried food and refined sugar on the regular basis. Or are wildly out of shape…
So, whats wrong with smoking and drinking? I don't understand.
I have noticed however, that the same Christians who have a problem with others smoking and drinking, they themselves engage in gossip, criticism, sarcasm, complaining, nagging, arguing, excuse-making, gloating, arrogance, fear, worry, anger, bitterness, hate, revenge, money lust, impatience, cowardice, irresponsibility, and thoughtlessness, among many other sins.
So who are they to judge others?
Maybe they should get the log out of their own eye, so that they can see to get the speck out of their brothers eye.
@@mbassett11 yea I mean getting high or drunk to the point if intoxication I get the criticism on that. But cigars and cigarettes the main argument for that is to take care of your body cuz it’s Gods temple. So don’t act like you take that seriously when you eat bad food and don’t exercise that’s my take. I agree w you to an extent also, we need ti be careful when judging others that we aren’t guilty of the same. Some of those things you mentioned are worth pointing out because they are blatantly sinful. But we must be humble when we criticize.
@@gavinfortin1584 I’m glad your not my neighbor. I’m glad your not around my children.
I’ve only got one thing to say to you…
First remove the log from your own eye, so you can see clearly enough to remove the speck from your brothers eye.
@@mbassett11 what do you mean? What am I judging incorrectly? If the Bible says it’s wrong, it’s wrong it has nothing to do w my judgement. That’s a very weak and traditional view on Christianity where we don’t call sin what it is cuz it’s “judging”. God tells us to judge rightly
@@gavinfortin1584 @Gavin Fortin cigars and cigarettes are not the same thing. You don't inhale cigars and it's not an addiction. You're being legalistic, man. The Bible even says if it's in for you then don't do it, but it may not be a sin for someone else, so you shouldn't try to profitize your own Gospel according to your personal do's and don'ts regarding freedom in Christ
Jeff dosnt understand Joel's Army. Tribulation like never was or will be. 70 AD ? , jeff dosnt know the bible .
Excellent lesson, praise God, thank you!
I'll never understand in a million years how anyone can read the NT and Revelation and bevievel in Post mill. That has to be the hardest sell in the universe, its the complete and total opposite of everything written in the NT and Revelation. Its clear to me people embrace it because they just have a really difficult time believeing the prophets. Its not about not understanding them because the words are pretty clear, its about struggling to accept what they say. SO they latch on to the idea that none of them actually mean what they say. And of course if they don't mean what they say then they can mean anything to anyone.
Brother Jeff Durbin [in love & sincerity], you are sinning for smoking a cigar during this public Christian presentation. Would this be acceptable while evangelizing the public square or teaching children as well? No, it would clearly not be Biblically wise. What makes this a sin instead of just being unwise is because there are genuine Christians who believe this behavior is sinful, and the Bible has already addressed this scenario in 1 Corinthians 8:10-13 LSB
For if someone sees you, who have knowledge, dining in an idol’s temple, will not his conscience, if he is weak, be built up to eat things sacrificed to idols? [11] For through your knowledge he who is weak is ruined, the brother for whose sake Christ died. [12] And in that way, by sinning against the brothers and wounding their conscience when it is weak, YOU SIN AGAINST CHRIST. [13] Therefore, if food causes my brother to stumble, I will never eat meat again-ever, so that I will not cause my brother to stumble.
When you want to be so cool and end up being distracting
The distraction is your problem not Jeff’s. Be in joy with the Lord. Smoke up and abide in Him.
"... and the temple was filled with smoke". Revelation 15:8
@@kcmerced9512 and Peter said "smoke that boof"
@@cockroachv He can do what ever he/He/Cool wants? How about he has in his hand a porn magazine? Would that prove his "freedom in Christ" then? No its not a distration. Rather it is an InYourFace/distration. Drug up and abide in Him/him, kids.
@@cockroachv did that make sense in your head? Fascinating.
Having a cigar in his hand and smoking it and teaching the Word of God is being irreverent.
Most times he preaches with his tattoos exposed .
He stumbles the Christians who don’t know his past. DO NOT STUMBLE your weaker brother !
Get you act together and present yourself a respectable man of the Word
I will no longer watch him
A real shame that he lets his smoking addiction get the better of him !
What a distraction, Ihad trouble focusing on tyour message. Can Jeff explain the purpose of smoking inside a building with perhaps other people and maybe children present?
I don’t think there were children present. This looks like the studio where they do their radio broadcast. I agree its a distraction & I wasn’t even watching, only listening while doing chores. I’m curious if it’s a shtick of some sort??! Otherwise I think he should have taken a break.
I LOVE a great handmade cigar! They’ve been proven to have no statistical significance towards your health when enjoyed in moderation. But, I agree this felt like a prop. But to you that call it a sin and condemn I would caution you to be very careful about what you call a sin. It’s easy to call the way of the Pharisee.
1 John 4
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God:
Jeff is a Calvinist. chill. he's got this bro
This is poor form, Jeff. You may have a right to light up but, what profit does it do for many who YOU are causing to stumble with this behaviour. The law of love shuold dominate. Repent.
1 Corinthians 8:9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. Come on Jeff you know better
Know better what?
@@johnf6267 Just because one feels at liberty to smoke a cigar, maybe one shouldn’t do it whilst teaching scripture. Especially when the whole world is the potential audience. Many Christians don’t believe anyone should smoke, so why risk offending them when you can smoke off camera and not distract from your teaching? Not a sin issue as much as a wisdom issue.
@@drewbysdad9697 good point.
I had respect for this preacher/teacher until he started to want to look cool with this unhealthy has nothing to do with the gospel CIGAR in his hand! There is nothing edifying about smoking PERIOD!
God bless everyone and please don't stumble because of others!
I appreciate some of Jeff's convictions; his apologetics, his stand on abortion, his mormon videos. I've even attended his church a number of times across town just because I admire him so much. But he cashed in alot of his chips with the stupidity of bringing his bad habit into this video. It smacks of something more juvenile than anything else. It suggests, Hey guys looky at me how cool I am. I can smoke this and it's really cool. My church folks just chuckle and say: "well that's just Jeff and he's really cool" No this is not cool, I don't really mean the smoking but rather the attempt to show what a nonconforming cool guy he thinks he is. COME ON JEFF YOU'VE GOT TO BE BETTER THAN THIS. But then again maybe not.
It works for Joe Rogan 😂
According to this, (postmill eschatology) Christ's kingdom initiative has been a colossal failure for 2000ys. - the problem with postmill is postmill. Great book on the true nature of the kingdom, The Majesty on High by S,M. Baugh.
This is my first time seeing pastor smoking.....
Who says Christian couldn’t smoking?
So, whats wrong with smoking and drinking? I don't understand.
I have noticed however, that the same Christians who have a problem with others smoking and drinking, they themselves engage in gossip, criticism, sarcasm, complaining, nagging, arguing, excuse-making, gloating, arrogance, fear, worry, anger, bitterness, hate, revenge, money lust, impatience, cowardice, irresponsibility, and thoughtlessness, among many other sins.
So who are they to judge others?
Maybe they should get the log out of their own eye, so that they can see to get the speck out of their brothers eye.
@@mbassett11so? All those things aren’t good.
@@sofiabravo1994
The point is that many people think that smoking and drinking are sinful.
Show me where the Bible says that smoking/drinking is wrong.
The “religious” Christians “judge” people for actions that are not a sin!
Religious Christians like you.
Christianity, good!
Religion, bad!
The internet introduces me too a parstor giving a sermon smoking a cigar....my neighborhood introduces me too rainbow flag, lghbt, abortion approving churches....i know where I get my spiritual food from... although in my opinion sermons on loneliness and depression would have more empathy delivered by somone who has actually suffered from these con ditions. ....most importantly the videos outside the abortion slaughter houses are a commendable way too spread the gospel.....
I also enjoy a nice watch once and awhile but how foolish this is to wear one whilst giving a teaching. This could cause so many people to stumble or dismiss him, absolutely unwise.
Jeff Durbin I and not against a believer who smokes and drinks actionably Charles Spurgeon did But it was kept from the general public so to speak for good reason your 'advertising' it as you do is really STUPID it's certainly is a stumbling block for young believer's stop it Jeff
your teaching is good and your eschatology good but not your 'ADVERTSEMENTS' stop it
I know for sure that if you are a pastor given God's word you should not be smoking when given God word look at David wilkerson talk about day of age that people and pastor are going to do their own things a new Gospel I have nothing to say
If you want to imagine Satan speaking half truths to lead many astray through desire to gratify the flesh, this is a perfect representation.
Just curious…how many of you who are so fixated (in a negative way) on Jeff enjoying a cigar have spent time witnessing to Mormons on the street, or sharing the love of Jesus with young women who are contemplating killing their unborn child? One of the most heinous characteristics of original sin is the deep seated legalism that resides in each of us…sin renders us nearly incapable of grasping grace and freedom…many of you reading this right now are thinking that I am antinomian…which merely serves to prove my point…
The spirit of religion is exhausting!
Witnessing to mormons is not what justifies Jefg Durbin nor does it take away his sinful ungodly example to others. This man is a fool of fools and is storing up heaps of wrath fod himself. If you love or even just like Jeff Durbin you should pray his eyes be opened to his gross errors in regards to his ungodly unbiblical conduct.
But why stop at a cigar? Why not a blunt? Smokes in teachings, cusses in sermons, not realizing holiness is the supreme form of rebellion in a fallen world.
Meh.... don't care really.
Bro, i struggled with this sin every day. It is My battles, it torna me apart. Smoking.. and now that i click no this and se le Jeff with a cigar... I'm very confused. Very confused very very. It would take los of scripture to reconcilie how i struggled with smoking and brothers in christ Ok with smoking.
I am so confused.
this man needs a KJV, we wouldnt even be having this discussion. matt 24 does bot say end of an age it says end of the world. So does matt 13:39, 28:20, and Luke 17:30
LOL Jeff is cool. Jeff is real. Jeff cuts the crap. A good Cubana cigar now and then. Nothing wrong with that 👍 🤠 😎 😇
He ‘cuts the crap’???? Really??? This guy is adamantly opposed to abortion yet believes in a version of God who sends BILLIONS of his own children into a lake of fire, to be burned and tormented for all eternity. What a joke this guy is....
Jesus came to give us eternal life and save us from our own consequences of disobeying the creator of the law of gravity creator of every scientific law we have discovered as humans .. the creator is the one that makes the rules.. not his creation
@@JS-gz2nw God does not send any of His children to hell. People in general are heading for hell on their own. God seeks His children out and rescues them from hell. But not all people are His children only those who believe in Jesus are ADOPTED as children of God
@@jlgoodwin9856 You are kinda missing my point. Jeff Durbin and his 'end abortion now' group are trying to emphasize that we as humans must care for our children at all costs, and NEVER to sacrifice their lives. This said, he has NO problem believing in a God who doesn't do the same. If God is as good and all-loving as we say he is, then there would be a VERY small portion of souls who would be separated from him for all of eternity in a fiery furnace. God would keep working on souls long after this life-time. Otherwise literally BILLIONS of his children are being tortured right now, and the number will only grow exponentially in time. That is a SICK understanding of God. And if you - as a Christian - don't like the concept of a bigger and more loving God who rescues a greater number of his kids from eternal torment, then there is something seriously wrong....
@@JS-gz2nw I don’t know you but I want you to know I love you and care about you. I know I personally I have a tendency to come off cold and blunt but please know that’s not my intent.
But the argument behind that statement is one of emotion and not of an understanding of how God has revealed himself or how he operates. Not everyone created by God is his child but there’s a group that are (John 1:12, Romans 9:8).
The reason being for this punishment isn’t some bloodlust or some sadistic pleasure in watching people burn. It’s justice, it is the warranted because we are all guilty of cosmic treason against an eternal being. The same God who punishes the guilty is also the same God who loves so much that he takes away the wrong doing of His people. This is an incredibly over simplified version of the gospel I just want you to know that I’m not giving you everything.
You may call it “sick” but I assure you if you put any of us under a microscope, or if you could even take a gander into the mind of a person (myself included) you would see that the heart apart from God is wicked and Hell would be justified. In fact this God that demands justice is so merciful to humanity that he has not just wiped us out, and he even made a promise not to do so.
Now onto the topic of abortion we’ll simply of God is desiring justice in the land and will call for justice in eternity then we as His people are to hate what he hates and love what he loves and in this case that’s to fight for the right of those who bear his image to even exists. As I stated above God has made a promise not to wipe out humanity and that justice that he seeks would be the same if for both the children of God and those that are not his children.
I know this was posted months ago but I do hope to strike up a dialogue with you. I will be praying for you
Jeff Durbin is simply following in the footsteps of his Calvinist hero cigar smoking CH Spurgeon who smoked for “the glory of God”.
When DL Moody lectured him about it, Spurgeon pointed to Moody’s portly belly and said “I’ll quit cigar smoking when you cut back on your eating”.
I may not agree with everything you do or say, a cigar is not as distraction as those ads. Gentile Christians made there own interpreted sin like the pharisees did and start accusing while they cause their brothers to stumble by eating unhealthy foods.
Revelation 3:10
10 Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth.
Tereo ek
tay-reh'-o
Verb
NAS Word Usage - Total: 71
1. to attend to carefully, take care of
a. to guard
b. metaph. to keep, one in the state in which he is
c. to observe
d. to reserve: to undergo something
Ek
ek
Preposition
NAS Word Usage - Total: 62
1. out of, from, by, away from
Love it!
And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, in which you once walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience,
Ephesians 2 : 1-2 NKJV
You have made him a little lower than the angels; You have crowned him with glory and honor, And set him over the works of Your hands. You have put all things in subjection under his feet." For in that He put all in subjection under him, He left nothing that is not put under him. But now we do not yet see all things put under him.
Hebrews 2 : 7-8 NKJV
Now when Jesus saw that he answered wisely, He said to him, "You are not far from the kingdom of God." But after that no one dared question Him.
Mark 12 : 34 NKJV
nothing else to think about, i`m done with jeff Durbin Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools Romans1:22
Post mill sounds silly . How people in the first century relate to that view?
COME ON JEFF-Surely you must know better! I hate to say it but I can only think of Dr Gene Scott when I see your pour example of leadership here!
What in the world is a pastor smoking a cigar and reading the Bible?
Does this guy have any sense at all???
Yes!!!!!!! Thank you for sharing these sweet truths with the body of Christ.
Are you smoking crack? Cause you're not reading the bible and filled with the Spirit yourself to tell you he's a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Nah. Post mil thinks things are going to progressively get better. Pre mil thinks thing are going to get very, very bad., before Jesus comes back. The Bible supports pre mil.
I'll never understand in a million years how anyone can read the NT and Revelation and believe in Post mill. That has to be the hardest sell in the universe, its the complete and total opposite of everything written in the NT and Revelation. Its clear to me people embrace it because they just have a really difficult time believing the prophets. Its not about not understanding them because the words are pretty clear, its about struggling to accept what they say. SO they latch on to the idea that none of them actually mean what they say. And of course if they don't mean what they say then they can mean anything to anyone.
Get this man a cognac or some burbon, about all he is missing.
This weird and wrong
Think this through....somebody is trying to quit smoking, they click on a pastor sucking on a cigar... hmmm.
What about those who deal with the sin of materialism??? I mean that’s a nice jacket, right? Me personally, I’m dealing with some major beard envy 😂😉
@@eastlandcc4888 ok....so being a glut is also a sin isn’t it ?
IMO a pastor smoking and damaging the temple ( his body ) his never a good look.....if you think it’s cool, then that’s fine but I don’t think it adds anything to this pastor and his ministry
@@eastlandcc4888 well,of course you shouldn’t help people to fall....if your kids were a diabetic would you buy them a coke ?
I must repent every time I behold the beard myself 😜
Better a cigar than a donut. In terms of raw. Umbers there are far more fat Christians then there are smokers
The amount of people triggered by the cigar is crazy
I wonder if you guys would have an issue with him drinking some wine here and speaking the word? Or maybe eating some cake? He's in the comfort of his own property not in the presence of anyone except on video he can smoke if he wants to, smoking is not any worse than drinking wine or eating cake in fact eating cake is much much much worse as sugar is actually a extremely deadly and potent drug, yet is it a sin? The answer is no and actually in moderation it can glorify God like in a birthday or in a celebration or in a day of rest, I believe Jeff is being wise by forcing you to confront your own sin when he does videos like this because it exposes your own hypocrisy yet you don't even see it...
Abstain from all appearance of evil.
(1Th. 5:22)
There’s nothing about smoking that would make one think they are glorifying God. At the very least, it’s hurting the body God gave you and sets a bad example for children. At the very worst, you’re dishonoring God.
@Being & Consciousness1611, do you have this same amount of concern regarding junk food or overeating? That's very harmful to the body as well, yet no one seems to have a problem with it.
@@zacharylauinger I agree with you 100%. That’s a very big sin that rarely gets covered behind the pulpit.
@@BeingConsciousness-yw3zwHow about posting on RUclips? Many people comment on RUclips to push very sinful ideas or for their own vainglory. I think you should stop posting on RUclips so as to avoid the appearance of evil.
Or you should repent of your legalism and advocate for the laws God actually gave rather then burdening people with whatever seems right in your own eyes.
@@oracleoftroy I’m not sure I’m fully understanding what you’re saying. If you think posting on RUclips is evil, then why are you posting on RUclips? Legalism is adding to the finished work of Christ in order to obtain salvation. Nobody can secure righteousness by following the law. Following the law has nothing to do with salvation. It doesn’t get you saved, it doesn’t keep you saved, and it doesn’t prove you’re saved. So I’m not a legalist. God’s word is the standard, not what is right in my own eyes. What’s right is God’s word. Defiling one’s body with smoke is not honoring to God, unless you know something I don’t.
Love the talk with a quality cigar working….relaxing and inviting
. Woman, you are set free from your infirmity." Then he put his hands on her, and immediately she straightened up and praised God. Indignant because Jesus had healed on Sabbath, the synagogue ruler said to the people, "There are six days for work. So come and be healed on those days, not on the Sabbath."
What's your point?
@@toddcote4904 point is Jesus isn't a pharisee.
@@thundergrace
That's true, but how does that tie into what Jeff is talking about?
@@toddcote4904 I'm kinda busy....I'll try to reply later...
@@thundergrace A year later and you're still too busy?
OK big lightbulb is coming on! Makes much better sense. Jesus Reigns . Thank you.
If its Jeff's goal to undermine his own personal and argumentative credibility, then the cigar in his hand contributes admirably to that end.
Sounds like dispie IFB cope. Stop being legalistic.
No!
Kirk Cameron!
Shoulda had a craft beer on the table🍺. Great explanation of the "shoe leather" postmill truth!
Hahaha ,may the Lord have mercy .
Great points from Durbin!
everybody I new as a kid died from smoking. not a positive image.