Probably behind two expansions, I bet this new one will have you beat/trap meph next two will be Baal resurrection and defeat and then 2 more for diablos resurrection and defeat
I’m ok with the release timeline they are taking with Diablo 4, where the whole thing isn’t released as a single release as D2 was. It allows them to invest into detail of the core of the game and lowered the bar for asset creation to get the servers live. I do wish that they would have been more brave and went ahead and made some assets for the prime evils for the initial release to confirm an eventual plan to extend the campaign to include those characters. I can see how doing so would make Lilith and the currently available content feel less fulfilling while the prime evils are introduced but not yet approachable. I wish they would take a different approach to the monetization. The DLC model is ok, but they might not even need it if the MTX wasn’t so absurd. POE has had huge expansions for over a decade off of MTX, some of which are not simple cosmetics but the community is still willing to accept because they aren’t direct player power. I’d rather buy more stash tabs and get the DLC for free, basically. I’m worried the player base will become fragmented with each gate-kept expansion, otherwise.
Honestly. I would absolutely LOVE if Diablo 4 went back to the church under Tristram and we pretty much get a Diablo 1 "remake" where we once again dungeon crawl our way down to hell and meet Diablo there.
During the game, when Nyrelle meets Donan for the first time in the Horadrc Vault, one of the readable books wrote by Lorath mention the Prime Evils manifestations: Mephisto as a Bloodied Wolf (as seen in the campaign), then it mentions a Wingless Bat and a One-eyed Owl, but we don't know which is Diablo and which is Baal. In a way, they could appear with their manifestations in Vessel of Hatred, acting similarly to Mephisto during the course of the story...
Love that tidbit! Yeah it will be interesting to see if any of those manifest - will have to keep my eyes peeled for any environmental easter eggs in the xpac
I thin Baal is probably the owl for two reasons. #1 in D2 you can loot one of his eyes. #2 a wingless bat sounds kinda terrifying and that’s more Diablos style.
Liliths death could also influence his presence. We don't know when a "daughter" dies if her essence could be absorbed by her father to reincarnete faster. This would also take her out of the pool which would be good for the story, I think - even though she was awesome.
D2 set the order. It always goes Hatred (Mephisto) then Terror (Diablo) then Destruction (Baal). I'd imagine there will be a tormented echo of Inarius coming as well somewhere in the mix, and they have to include Imperius at some point. In D2 it went Andariel, Duriel, Mephisto, Diablo Baal. I wouldn't be surprised if D4 follows something similar like Lilith, tormented Inarius, Mephisto, Diablo, Baal
@@dragonborn6347 Im not sure I understand the question, I just meant D2's order of bosses went Andariel, Duriel, Mephisto, Diablo, Baal... in D4 we already had Andariel, Duriel, Astaroth and Lilith. Mephisto will be next, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is another lesser boss fight or two before getting to Mephisto. and then the same for the following expansion which im assuming will be a couple of lesser bosses before Diablo, and likewise for Baal. Thats all I meant
In a way but... making Diablo the end of it, would make sense as well for, and stay with me now.... a game named Diablo. Tho having Tathamet would be cool
We already have the itinerary of Mephisto (the girl in fact), we have books stating her journey so it's safe to assume expansion will go in that way. We go Kurast to Skovo Island to Luth Golhein and presumbly ending back around Tristram. Which is almost the same journey of The first Wanderer backward.
It'd make sense to have this D2 order. Mephisto the puppeteer preparing Sanctuary for his brothers to come. Lilith was only a hurdle to overcome and to give his brothers time to appear again. Portal to Hell in Durance of Hate makes also sense and potential duo Mephisto + Diablo would make great opportunities to shake even the story, turning player even more onto Lilith's side. And then eventually when Mephisto and Diablo would be defeated, Baal again shows his face trying to destroy everything. At that point player would be mostly on Lilith's side and have new "demonic/nephalem" powers. Cherry on top would be battle with corrupted/fallen Inarius along the way to Baal. And I would love having the Angiris council incorporated once again...
I would assume that at some point the angels would have closed the portal to Hell in the Durance of Hate. Likely Tyrael would have done it while looking for the Black Soulstone.
@@Kmmlc Maybe that's the reason why Mephisto influenced Neyrelle to go back to Kurrast. She is very familiar with Horadric arts so she's maybe capable to reopen the portal.
At some point they need to reveal to what happen with tyrael and the heavenly host. Pretty sad ending of what they did to inarius and Lilith I wish it was more depth.
While I agree with this lore on a base level, I think Diablo is going to reform last because he was the main personality of the Prime Evil - I think he really stunted himself in the reformation process. I have no doubt being the namesake of the game he is going to not only reform last, but be extremely difficult and powerful when he does return. He's be thwarted Thrice now, and I don't think his 4th attempt is going to be a flop, I think he learned enough about what we do and to not trust anyone after how he played the long game with Leah as his host. I think when the Lord of Terror returns we are going to lose, handily and badly. Most of the last expansion for 4 is going to see us clawing back and barely being able to do anything against Diablo until he does something in his over-zealousness that allows us to defeat him. I have no doubt it's going to end with all the Evils back in soulstones or otherwise their spirits fleeing, again. They're just never truly defeated.
This is a great take - Diablo is said to be the most powerful of the 3 since he is the only being that doesn’t feel fear. Excited to see how that plays out in the xpacks to come
I agree. I also think there will be some expansions in between that deal with heaven and maybe some other random stuff. Skovos Isles and Xansei or whatever that place is called are due to being made in a numbered Diablo title.
I’d guess they’ll probably introduce him early but not kill him any time soon. There’s barely been any mention of him in game they gotta bring him in it’s his IP, and he’s been absent long enough. I bet he shows up in this xpac even if he doesn’t die for a few years.
They have to do something. If they don’t plan on having him back until D5 then you would have an entire game without an appearance of the title character.
That’s a great observation! I wonder if they’ll play into that if they do the lore justice One thing that irked me about Diablo 3 is that Azmodan is the lord of sin - yet he played more of a lord of destruction role with his warring ways. I hope they course correct when he shows up
Nice video! In my opinion Blizzard it’s taking it slow. Proof is no paladin on 1st DLC. So I’m guessing next one will be Baal themed and the 3rd(and last?) will be the great finale with Didi as last boss.
Thank you! Yes I agree with you that they’re taking it slow. I have a strong feeling with the quarterly seasons and the yearly DLCs they will follow a method similar to Destiny 2
I think you’re mostly right but I believe there is a power differential meaning the prime evils fully manifest at different rates and i think i read that Diablo is strongest of the three so he’ll manifest last. Tristram is the spot cant see him emerging anywhere else.
You are absolutely correct. I'll quote Deckard Cain: "Diablo, Lord of Terror, is the most dangerous of them because he is incapable of feeling fear." 💪
Tristram is a much more likely place for Diablo to emerge than the Durance of Hate. The council is already in D4 as of season 5...obviously foreshadowing Meph in the expansion.
I wonder if the rest of Lesser Evils will appear in the game as non-DLC events, since Andariel and Duriel are already back and active. This could mean that it takes less time for them to recover than it's needed for a Prime Evil beings. Or maybe it has nothing to do with their rangs, but the amount of corruption they've managed to achive so far. Thus who knows what really is happening in Westmarch.
Andariel and Duriel are dead again if we follow the lore since we killed them during the D4 campaign. So their essence probably has no form yet. So it might take like 10 years for a small sliver of their essence to form for the lesser evils. While for the prime evils probably more as after the events of ROS which is 50 years later, we can see Memphisto's head. Which might mean it's also the same for Baal and Diablo.
@@Dan-zm5ik Ye, I was thinking about Azmodan and Belial. If the pattern for LE and PE to reborn is just time- related, then they should be already alive aswell. Would be nice to fight them once again, but not in a seperate DLC ;d
Yeah I’m curious about that as well. I can see Belial being close to Mephisto since they’re both smart and conniving. Azmodan making a showing with Baal would fit too - although I hope they reimagine him a little like they did Andariel. He looked like a cartoony pit demon from WoW
Belial coming back would be LIT... Favorite of the lesser evil! 🙏 I for some strange reason always favored baal when it comes to prime evils. I literally played Diablo immortal (I know, yuck) just to the point where you fight baal in another scenery. After that, uninstalled. Overall, just the experience of seeing him updated a bit was very nice. Other than that, DI is poo ...
Someone mentioned it but I didn't see who it was but.. the idea we've already encountered Diablo and Baal is cool or the idea of a Prime evil basically subertly interacting with others on sanctuary
Very possible - like Mephisto disguised himself as a wolf, one of them is disguised as a wingless bat and the other a one eyed owl - I just dont remember who is who
All of the prime evils are merged in D3, but it is Diablo in complete control. Hence, why the game calls he/she Diablo. Also, Nyrelle didn't travel to the western continent with Mephisto's soulstone. SHe travelled to the southern end of the eastern continent, where Kurast is. Kurast is the southern part of the map in D4 that isn't unlocked yet.
@@therealDonMac hope you’re ready for they them Mephisto 🤣🤣 they missed a huge opportunity not giving “The Prime Evil” 7 heads. Could have had us fight a She/he Diablo then on death his soul takes control of the black soulstone and bam 7 headed prime evil
I feel that I am totally the only one that is bored with the fact that evil "respawn". Don't get me wrong but passing through D2 was awesome, even D3 was great, new story, new evils. Ofc now we had Lilith but it seemed like she was not really the main plot. As I said, it was awesome meeting Meph, Duriel, Baal in D2 but I felt bored seeing them again. Just like my effort in D2 was for nothing. Just to see them again in better graphics quality lol. Following that nonsense, Diablo can be neverending story if we can meet the same evil each new title.
I agree with you - Im curious if they will ever investigate other planes of existence like the void or start involving the celestial guardians like Trag’Oul
Awesome video 😃 my one counterpoint- do you think there’s any likelihood that Mephisto is already at/close to full strength, and he chose to appear in his reforming state to manipulate Neyrelle into putting him into the soul stone?
That’s very possible - I feel like his degree of influence is possible due to him being close to respawning. He just needed a little more time before Lilith has a chance to absorb him fully - getting absorbed into the soulstone gave him that time
They should be around now - I wouldn’t be surprised if they make an appearance soon. However I hope they don’t just spawn as some silent one-off boss like Andariel and Duriel were, since they had massive roles in D3
Blizzard will find a way to drop the ball when it comes to diablo 4's story the longer the game goes on. I liked your video, looking forward to more. :)
Diablo is trying out different pumps at the local shoe store down the road from the Tristram Cathedral, and Baal is selling crystals to homeopaths in his “Grannies” antique shop in some backwater town no one knows about. Honestly, who cares? When Blizzard decides to introduce them again, they’ll find some woke way to ruin them for Modern Gamers.
@@loatheburger i wouldn’t want to haggle with Baal. Mans would just shout “enough!” and lie about taking your low-ball offer seriously. Meanwhile Diablo’s more concerned about finding their own personal identity and truth through different physical defining features. It’s really just more about learning who the real Lord of Terror is deep down rather than the simplicity of good versus evil.
Have we even stepped foot in hell at all in Diablo 4? They really missed the mark for the entirety of Diablo 4 so far. Doesn't look like it's getting better any time soon.
Yes, but I think Baal has the most impressive feats/victories in the whole series. The guy/demon single handedly curb stomped most of Sanctuary in D2:LoD and basically put a devastating wound and stalemated everyone at the end of the game. Kind of Laughing the whole time as well......Yea, if you couldn't tell, he's my favorite!! You have to love the playful type of demons!! Always good to see one with a bit of humor.
where is baal where is diablo where is cains book. where is urshi that used to upgrade my gems.where is zoltan kulle... where is the nephalem? is everyone nephalem now????? just WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LORE????????
More annoyingly what happened to the Nephilim that ended uber diablo? As far as I know nothing has been said about them, some people in game yell "I know what you are" when running by. But everyone are Nephilim though
I don't believe so. They can be banished to the void (like when their soulstones were destroyed in the hellforge), but I don't believe they can be outright destroyed
@@loatheburgerThough what I will say may be a longshot, the evils or to be on a larger scale the demons as a whole race can be destroyed but its probably the biggest mystery or well kept secret in hell and my reasoning is pretty simple, just like we saw in D3 that the angels as a whole race can be killed if the Crystal arch is destroyed (at least diablo in high heels managed to dissable them) as the other side of the same coin they should have something similiar to the crystal arch in function. I do say its just a passing thought but an intresting idea in my opinion.
@@loatheburger There’s some flavor text on the Lucions Crown item that suggests just maybe he’s still out there. Any chance you be willing to do a Knights Penitent deep dive video?? Why we’re fighting them, what order they came from, and what’s left of them after Inarius death?
TBH I hope In D4 Diablo is the last to come.. its time the name sake of the game is the Ultimate bad.. I always felt it was off in D2 and D3 Diablo wasn't considered the Ultimate bad.. D4 needs to be that game where story wise he is the main baddie.. so this time I hope Baal comes before Diablo
Yeah I agree - and unlike the other games, I hope they really build up to him with showcasing what his terror does to people - akin to how Lilith’s hatred in the base game awoken in people
Next has to be Diablo ... you know, because the game is named that way and it would be a betrayal of the IP to not have him in a game ... A shame already that he is not in the main game but probably behind another 40 to 100 bucks DLC
How else do you think Microsoft is going to print money by drawing out the Diablo 4 franchise at least 3 more times with Mephisto, Diablo, and Baal expansions.
Not watching the video just putting in my 2 percent. Which I know are facts both Diablo and Baal are both dead again and free roaming back in the burning hells still regenerating their psychical forms just like archangels do but they(demons and the primes) can reform their physical bodies a lot quicker then the archangels can. This this why Mephistoph is first to appear because he was killed first out of all the primes thus allowing him to be the first to regenerate and appear hence why he was the main one in d4 then obviously it’ll be Diablo next and then it’ll be Baal.
I recommend you do watch because you are incorrect - Mephisto, Diablo, and Baal’s essence were all absorbed into the black soulstone in Diablo 3. When Malthael was defeated, all 7 evils’ souls were freed simultaneously
You lore videos are well written and narrated. I hope you gain an even bigger audience!
Thank you man! I will keep them coming - I hope so too
Both trapped behind 100 dollar dlc?
I Paid for the premium one hehe
Dlc is 40 bucks my guy
@@Thearchetype12Still too much for a crappy game. $1 is too much for any DLC they release my guy.
Probably behind two expansions, I bet this new one will have you beat/trap meph next two will be Baal resurrection and defeat and then 2 more for diablos resurrection and defeat
I’m ok with the release timeline they are taking with Diablo 4, where the whole thing isn’t released as a single release as D2 was. It allows them to invest into detail of the core of the game and lowered the bar for asset creation to get the servers live.
I do wish that they would have been more brave and went ahead and made some assets for the prime evils for the initial release to confirm an eventual plan to extend the campaign to include those characters. I can see how doing so would make Lilith and the currently available content feel less fulfilling while the prime evils are introduced but not yet approachable.
I wish they would take a different approach to the monetization. The DLC model is ok, but they might not even need it if the MTX wasn’t so absurd. POE has had huge expansions for over a decade off of MTX, some of which are not simple cosmetics but the community is still willing to accept because they aren’t direct player power. I’d rather buy more stash tabs and get the DLC for free, basically. I’m worried the player base will become fragmented with each gate-kept expansion, otherwise.
Honestly. I would absolutely LOVE if Diablo 4 went back to the church under Tristram and we pretty much get a Diablo 1 "remake" where we once again dungeon crawl our way down to hell and meet Diablo there.
i like this idea
During the game, when Nyrelle meets Donan for the first time in the Horadrc Vault, one of the readable books wrote by Lorath mention the Prime Evils manifestations: Mephisto as a Bloodied Wolf (as seen in the campaign), then it mentions a Wingless Bat and a One-eyed Owl, but we don't know which is Diablo and which is Baal. In a way, they could appear with their manifestations in Vessel of Hatred, acting similarly to Mephisto during the course of the story...
Love that tidbit! Yeah it will be interesting to see if any of those manifest - will have to keep my eyes peeled for any environmental easter eggs in the xpac
Baal is the owl
I thin Baal is probably the owl for two reasons.
#1 in D2 you can loot one of his eyes.
#2 a wingless bat sounds kinda terrifying and that’s more Diablos style.
Diablo and Baal are indeed in the game.
Diablo is in the form of a human enchanter in town with Baal being the masterworking blacksmith.
😂🤣 - Baal gets off on bricking perfect GA items with bad Tempers
That would be an epic Easter egg!
This comment deserves all the likes/hate 😂
HAHAHA. What a comment, well said sir
I knew it..
They should give us an open World section in Hell. Would be so awesome to explore that too
That would be sick!
@@loatheburger Heaven too like in D3
Mephisto was the first to die so it would make sense that his essence manifested first.
Ball I think will be next then Diablo
Liliths death could also influence his presence. We don't know when a "daughter" dies if her essence could be absorbed by her father to reincarnete faster. This would also take her out of the pool which would be good for the story, I think - even though she was awesome.
"Diablo In Heels" is pretty much perfect, kind of annoyed I never heard it before now.
I really had to back up the vid a few times just to be sure I heard it right... anyway werk those heels 😂
Prime evils together strong
Lesser evils alone weak
D2 set the order. It always goes Hatred (Mephisto) then Terror (Diablo) then Destruction (Baal). I'd imagine there will be a tormented echo of Inarius coming as well somewhere in the mix, and they have to include Imperius at some point. In D2 it went Andariel, Duriel, Mephisto, Diablo Baal. I wouldn't be surprised if D4 follows something similar like Lilith, tormented Inarius, Mephisto, Diablo, Baal
Yeah it’s looking like a good possibility
but we already have Andariel and Duriel in d4 too, why would you put Lilith and Inarius there, but not these 2? 😅
@@dragonborn6347 Im not sure I understand the question, I just meant D2's order of bosses went Andariel, Duriel, Mephisto, Diablo, Baal... in D4 we already had Andariel, Duriel, Astaroth and Lilith. Mephisto will be next, but I wouldn't be surprised if there is another lesser boss fight or two before getting to Mephisto. and then the same for the following expansion which im assuming will be a couple of lesser bosses before Diablo, and likewise for Baal. Thats all I meant
In a way but... making Diablo the end of it, would make sense as well for, and stay with me now.... a game named Diablo. Tho having Tathamet would be cool
kinda weird to say "always" when that hasn't happened since.
We already have the itinerary of Mephisto (the girl in fact), we have books stating her journey so it's safe to assume expansion will go in that way. We go Kurast to Skovo Island to Luth Golhein and presumbly ending back around Tristram. Which is almost the same journey of The first Wanderer backward.
Interesting! Which books? I may have missed this!
It'd make sense to have this D2 order. Mephisto the puppeteer preparing Sanctuary for his brothers to come. Lilith was only a hurdle to overcome and to give his brothers time to appear again. Portal to Hell in Durance of Hate makes also sense and potential duo Mephisto + Diablo would make great opportunities to shake even the story, turning player even more onto Lilith's side.
And then eventually when Mephisto and Diablo would be defeated, Baal again shows his face trying to destroy everything. At that point player would be mostly on Lilith's side and have new "demonic/nephalem" powers. Cherry on top would be battle with corrupted/fallen Inarius along the way to Baal. And I would love having the Angiris council incorporated once again...
I would love to fight Inarius - I feel like that was the greatest miss in the campaign. He felt like such a throwaway
I would assume that at some point the angels would have closed the portal to Hell in the Durance of Hate. Likely Tyrael would have done it while looking for the Black Soulstone.
@@Kmmlc Maybe that's the reason why Mephisto influenced Neyrelle to go back to Kurrast. She is very familiar with Horadric arts so she's maybe capable to reopen the portal.
I think Diablo and Baal are in the process of possessing characters that we have met somewhere along the journey of the game.
That would be cool to see!
At some point they need to reveal to what happen with tyrael and the heavenly host. Pretty sad ending of what they did to inarius and Lilith I wish it was more depth.
Completely agree with you, man. Especially Inarius - we only interact with him twice the entire game
Laying absolute waste to the other continents of Sanctuary, while our player character is blissfully unaware of the even worse state of those places.
While I agree with this lore on a base level, I think Diablo is going to reform last because he was the main personality of the Prime Evil - I think he really stunted himself in the reformation process. I have no doubt being the namesake of the game he is going to not only reform last, but be extremely difficult and powerful when he does return. He's be thwarted Thrice now, and I don't think his 4th attempt is going to be a flop, I think he learned enough about what we do and to not trust anyone after how he played the long game with Leah as his host.
I think when the Lord of Terror returns we are going to lose, handily and badly. Most of the last expansion for 4 is going to see us clawing back and barely being able to do anything against Diablo until he does something in his over-zealousness that allows us to defeat him. I have no doubt it's going to end with all the Evils back in soulstones or otherwise their spirits fleeing, again. They're just never truly defeated.
This is a great take - Diablo is said to be the most powerful of the 3 since he is the only being that doesn’t feel fear. Excited to see how that plays out in the xpacks to come
Awesome video bro. I could listen to an hour+ lore video by you for sure
Love reading comments like these as a small creator - thanks brother!
Kind of feel like they will save Diablo for last for D4. Baal next then Diablo with the other less evils sprinkled in somewhere.
I agree. I also think there will be some expansions in between that deal with heaven and maybe some other random stuff. Skovos Isles and Xansei or whatever that place is called are due to being made in a numbered Diablo title.
I’d guess they’ll probably introduce him early but not kill him any time soon. There’s barely been any mention of him in game they gotta bring him in it’s his IP, and he’s been absent long enough. I bet he shows up in this xpac even if he doesn’t die for a few years.
Great video straight to the point. No annoying fluff to pas out monetization
Thank you! I hate fluff and feeling like im being disingenuous to my viewers
They have to do something. If they don’t plan on having him back until D5 then you would have an entire game without an appearance of the title character.
It was strange to me that Mephisto had some of Baal's memories when he was talking to us.
Maybe they got into each other's minds when they were fused?
That’s a great observation! I wonder if they’ll play into that if they do the lore justice
One thing that irked me about Diablo 3 is that Azmodan is the lord of sin - yet he played more of a lord of destruction role with his warring ways. I hope they course correct when he shows up
When did the the game reveal that he has access to Baal’s memory. You mean for the fall of Horogath?
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Yes. Exactly that. Mephisto wasn't there, he shouldn't "remember" it.
Just finished my first d4 at thought. Loving these vids man. Subbed
@@RumblesBettr happy to hear that man! Appreciate the support
Nice video! In my opinion Blizzard it’s taking it slow. Proof is no paladin on 1st DLC. So I’m guessing next one will be Baal themed and the 3rd(and last?) will be the great finale with Didi as last boss.
Thank you! Yes I agree with you that they’re taking it slow. I have a strong feeling with the quarterly seasons and the yearly DLCs they will follow a method similar to Destiny 2
In agame named DIablo, you cant expect there to be an actual DIablo.
If you don't see Baal in a game, it's ok. But no Diablo in a Diablo game?
They said D4 will get multiple expansions, I am sure the other prime evils and their children will be showing up
Yep. Only gotta pay 500 some dollars at some point for the full story
I think you’re mostly right but I believe there is a power differential meaning the prime evils fully manifest at different rates and i think i read that Diablo is strongest of the three so he’ll manifest last. Tristram is the spot cant see him emerging anywhere else.
I think I recall reading that too actually
You are absolutely correct. I'll quote Deckard Cain: "Diablo, Lord of Terror, is the most dangerous of them because he is incapable of feeling fear." 💪
Tristram is a much more likely place for Diablo to emerge than the Durance of Hate. The council is already in D4 as of season 5...obviously foreshadowing Meph in the expansion.
If Neyrell survived, I'll be pissed.🤣
Don't worry for only $100 each you can experience them both in the coming years.
I wonder if the rest of Lesser Evils will appear in the game as non-DLC events, since Andariel and Duriel are already back and active. This could mean that it takes less time for them to recover than it's needed for a Prime Evil beings. Or maybe it has nothing to do with their rangs, but the amount of corruption they've managed to achive so far. Thus who knows what really is happening in Westmarch.
Andariel and Duriel are dead again if we follow the lore since we killed them during the D4 campaign. So their essence probably has no form yet. So it might take like 10 years for a small sliver of their essence to form for the lesser evils.
While for the prime evils probably more as after the events of ROS which is 50 years later, we can see Memphisto's head. Which might mean it's also the same for Baal and Diablo.
@@Dan-zm5ik Ye, I was thinking about Azmodan and Belial. If the pattern for LE and PE to reborn is just time- related, then they should be already alive aswell. Would be nice to fight them once again, but not in a seperate DLC ;d
@@nethrim2115 I don't think we will be fightning the other evils soon. Probably a herald cameo just like Memphisto's wolf herald will appear.
Yeah I’m curious about that as well. I can see Belial being close to Mephisto since they’re both smart and conniving. Azmodan making a showing with Baal would fit too - although I hope they reimagine him a little like they did Andariel. He looked like a cartoony pit demon from WoW
Belial coming back would be LIT... Favorite of the lesser evil! 🙏
I for some strange reason always favored baal when it comes to prime evils.
I literally played Diablo immortal (I know, yuck) just to the point where you fight baal in another scenery. After that, uninstalled.
Overall, just the experience of seeing him updated a bit was very nice. Other than that, DI is poo ...
Playing cards with Imperius and Tyrael somewhere
🤣
cant lie, the A3 D2 music is hitting me in the feels.
Thank you for this --- I enjoyed the D4 story, but lost track somewhere...This explained everything
Glad you enjoyed it 😃
Someone mentioned it but I didn't see who it was but.. the idea we've already encountered Diablo and Baal is cool or the idea of a Prime evil basically subertly interacting with others on sanctuary
Very possible - like Mephisto disguised himself as a wolf, one of them is disguised as a wingless bat and the other a one eyed owl - I just dont remember who is who
These videos are great, gives me an old school rhykker feel.
Also I'm gonna fangirl when/if we get back to Tristram to kick down Diablos door.
Thanks! Rhykker is my inspiration so it makes me happy to hear that😊
Kinda feel like they are menacingly quiet.
The most menacing of wall flowers
All of the prime evils are merged in D3, but it is Diablo in complete control. Hence, why the game calls he/she Diablo. Also, Nyrelle didn't travel to the western continent with Mephisto's soulstone. SHe travelled to the southern end of the eastern continent, where Kurast is. Kurast is the southern part of the map in D4 that isn't unlocked yet.
New Meta - Diablo is non-binary
@@loatheburger LOL, Diablo was definitetly They/Them in D3.
@@therealDonMac hope you’re ready for they them Mephisto 🤣🤣 they missed a huge opportunity not giving “The Prime Evil” 7 heads. Could have had us fight a She/he Diablo then on death his soul takes control of the black soulstone and bam 7 headed prime evil
@@spindoggytheexplorer2915 That wouldn't have left us as many expansions for D4 that way. Would have been a cool take though.
I feel that I am totally the only one that is bored with the fact that evil "respawn". Don't get me wrong but passing through D2 was awesome, even D3 was great, new story, new evils. Ofc now we had Lilith but it seemed like she was not really the main plot. As I said, it was awesome meeting Meph, Duriel, Baal in D2 but I felt bored seeing them again. Just like my effort in D2 was for nothing. Just to see them again in better graphics quality lol. Following that nonsense, Diablo can be neverending story if we can meet the same evil each new title.
I agree with you - Im curious if they will ever investigate other planes of existence like the void or start involving the celestial guardians like Trag’Oul
Awesome video 😃 my one counterpoint- do you think there’s any likelihood that Mephisto is already at/close to full strength, and he chose to appear in his reforming state to manipulate Neyrelle into putting him into the soul stone?
That’s very possible - I feel like his degree of influence is possible due to him being close to respawning. He just needed a little more time before Lilith has a chance to absorb him fully - getting absorbed into the soulstone gave him that time
I thought the hell gate under travincal lead to Baal domain. We fought Diablo but it wasn't his domain. I ma wrong ?
You are right - Baal’s realm of destruction housed the hellforge. Im not sure if the chaos sanctuary is also Baal’s?
Good question, I thought it was all Baal's but it's strange that there is a specific ritual to summon diablo specifically in the sanctuary.
nice video! I love Diablo lore Vids :D
Is the Diablo 4 story good? ive heard mixed reviews about the game but is the story good
It’s the best storytelling in a Diablo game production wise - not perfect but I still feel like the campaign was the best part of the game
Oh yeah, this one doing numbers
Awww yeee
2:00 About the blessings
Baal blesses you instantly
Diablo takes a little more time to bless you
Mephisto tests you before he will bless you
Good observation !
Going in order of deaths its Mephisto, Diablo, then Baal. Seems like theyre possibly sticking to it?
Hell MAP with lava like D2 is good to explore..
Agreed - I hope we see this too
how about the other 2 lesser evils?
They should be around now - I wouldn’t be surprised if they make an appearance soon. However I hope they don’t just spawn as some silent one-off boss like Andariel and Duriel were, since they had massive roles in D3
Nice content bro!
Please make a video explaining why there are no paladins anymore.
they are waiting for the next expansions.
cant wait for next expansion thanks for video :D
Blizzard will find a way to drop the ball when it comes to diablo 4's story the longer the game goes on.
I liked your video, looking forward to more. :)
Unfortunately so - I’m hoping there will be some focus in future DLCs
Diablo is trying out different pumps at the local shoe store down the road from the Tristram Cathedral, and Baal is selling crystals to homeopaths in his “Grannies” antique shop in some backwater town no one knows about.
Honestly, who cares? When Blizzard decides to introduce them again, they’ll find some woke way to ruin them for Modern Gamers.
Bro lol 😂🤣
@@loatheburger i wouldn’t want to haggle with Baal. Mans would just shout “enough!” and lie about taking your low-ball offer seriously. Meanwhile Diablo’s more concerned about finding their own personal identity and truth through different physical defining features. It’s really just more about learning who the real Lord of Terror is deep down rather than the simplicity of good versus evil.
Awesome video man, subbed
Appreciate it!
Mephisto is their 'mage', he'll bring them back.
Diablo in Heels 😂
Brothers reunion 😊
They are in PAID expansions. Like everything else that should have been in base.
the diablo escaped from the blizzard and found that the ship was sinking and he could not swim
🤣🤣 thanks for the laugh
Technically, it was a reincarnation of Tathamet. I wonder what will happen with Lilith when she 'respawns'.
Only balkans knows that Mephisto's name is actually Shefisto 💀
Your editing needs work but definitely a cool little video man keep it up!
Thanks brother! This RUclips journey is my first time editing videos and trying to improve little by little - any notable spots that are janky?
Dude Diablo needs to bring back Lazarus to function like an antichrist type figure.
I just want my cow level
How about trapped behind multiple DLC?
Good thought
Have we even stepped foot in hell at all in Diablo 4? They really missed the mark for the entirety of Diablo 4 so far. Doesn't look like it's getting better any time soon.
We did yeah - at the last act. For barely anytime
Player is Diablo. You play as the child of the templar and enchantress from D3, who were tainted, or something. Calling it now.
Watch my character get renamed from LoatheBurger to Korena
I expect Diablo & Baal will be back in the 2nd and 3rd expansion pack.
Diablo is more powerful than both his brothers. He will probably take longer to come back
Yes, but I think Baal has the most impressive feats/victories in the whole series. The guy/demon single handedly curb stomped most of Sanctuary in D2:LoD and basically put a devastating wound and stalemated everyone at the end of the game. Kind of Laughing the whole time as well......Yea, if you couldn't tell, he's my favorite!! You have to love the playful type of demons!! Always good to see one with a bit of humor.
i don't think any entities have been killed as much as Diablo and Baal have. Eventually thats going to leave a mark.
where is baal where is diablo where is cains book. where is urshi that used to upgrade my gems.where is zoltan kulle... where is the nephalem?
is everyone nephalem now?????
just WHERE THE FUCK IS THE LORE????????
Alot of questions to be answered- atleast it gives me content 😛
Diablo is in act 4 in d2r :D
Fitting username 🤣
hiidng in expansion so it can be monetized
More annoyingly what happened to the Nephilim that ended uber diablo? As far as I know nothing has been said about them, some people in game yell "I know what you are" when running by. But everyone are Nephilim though
I made a video just on that topic:
ruclips.net/video/21YWIPrlrUk/видео.htmlsi=pZUAc74S9FI47pFS
Considering they both died after mephisto still regenerating duuuuuyyh
My real question is. Can you truly kill the Evils once and for all? Is there a chance they do not respawn in hell once dead?
I don't believe so. They can be banished to the void (like when their soulstones were destroyed in the hellforge), but I don't believe they can be outright destroyed
@@loatheburgerThough what I will say may be a longshot, the evils or to be on a larger scale the demons as a whole race can be destroyed but its probably the biggest mystery or well kept secret in hell and my reasoning is pretty simple, just like we saw in D3 that the angels as a whole race can be killed if the Crystal arch is destroyed (at least diablo in high heels managed to dissable them) as the other side of the same coin they should have something similiar to the crystal arch in function. I do say its just a passing thought but an intresting idea in my opinion.
Where did Lucion end up? Couldn’t we just send them there? Seems hard to come back from.
@@spindoggytheexplorer2915 In the Sin War trilogy books, he got willed out of existence. Im not sure if his essence is anywhere honestly
@@loatheburger There’s some flavor text on the Lucions Crown item that suggests just maybe he’s still out there.
Any chance you be willing to do a Knights Penitent deep dive video?? Why we’re fighting them, what order they came from, and what’s left of them after Inarius death?
TBH I hope In D4 Diablo is the last to come.. its time the name sake of the game is the Ultimate bad.. I always felt it was off in D2 and D3 Diablo wasn't considered the Ultimate bad.. D4 needs to be that game where story wise he is the main baddie.. so this time I hope Baal comes before Diablo
Yeah I agree - and unlike the other games, I hope they really build up to him with showcasing what his terror does to people - akin to how Lilith’s hatred in the base game awoken in people
Diablo will for sure be the Final boss... I think the next expansion will be Baals...
Hiding in future expansions.
They took a break from the Game after jay wilson fked it up😅
Triggered
Bro are you related to Ralph Fiennes?
Haha - I am not but my uncle is his doppelgänger
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They are secretly play testing PoE2, but don't tell anyone i told you
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The Sam Sulek microphone lmao
savage
I can tell you exactly where they are. In the past, because Blizzard doesn't give a single fuck about Diablo lore and just want your guys' money.
Waiting for you to buy their respective DLC
They're hiding in the second and third expansions
Each sold separately
Next has to be Diablo ... you know, because the game is named that way and it would be a betrayal of the IP to not have him in a game ... A shame already that he is not in the main game but probably behind another 40 to 100 bucks DLC
They will be in paid dlc
Somehow I didn't like how the greater evils do blessings! Evil doesn't bless it corrupts! It's stupid writing.
Great point
Expansion 2 and 3 obviously
Back on D2 where they belong
How else do you think Microsoft is going to print money by drawing out the Diablo 4 franchise at least 3 more times with Mephisto, Diablo, and Baal expansions.
Not watching the video just putting in my 2 percent. Which I know are facts both Diablo and Baal are both dead again and free roaming back in the burning hells still regenerating their psychical forms just like archangels do but they(demons and the primes) can reform their physical bodies a lot quicker then the archangels can. This this why Mephistoph is first to appear because he was killed first out of all the primes thus allowing him to be the first to regenerate and appear hence why he was the main one in d4 then obviously it’ll be Diablo next and then it’ll be Baal.
I recommend you do watch because you are incorrect - Mephisto, Diablo, and Baal’s essence were all absorbed into the black soulstone in Diablo 3. When Malthael was defeated, all 7 evils’ souls were freed simultaneously
Just an fyi diablo 4 is before d1
They're going to sell us Diablo for 99.99 in an expansion.
Where is Diablo? It's his fu*king game!