Our F1 Driver Ratings for the 2024 Chinese Grand Prix
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- Опубликовано: 22 апр 2024
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Don’t lie, you’re here for the lambasting of Lance stroll
hi faded
@@gaminggenerationzhello! ❤
And they still scored him too high.
actually i was here to see if Max got another 10...
100%. But if lance doesn't get -16 ima be pissed😂
My favorite bit of commentary on the broadcast, "Bottas out with an engine issue. Tsunoda out with a Magnussen issue."
Magnussen became pretty nasty in this season
Hes literally always been like this, he just took a break in 2022@armanshahbaz7130
@@armanshahbaz7130 He always had it in him. 😄
Most sporting driver on the grid
@@armanshahbaz7130 You are delluded this one is 100% Kmags fault, for misjudging Tsunodas line, but the rest of "incidents" this year even by the other drivers involved clearly vindicate Kmag of all blame. Calling him nasty is just NBA-fandom making it into racing.
Stroll ratin is at 12:44
I like the Mystery. ))
The only thing we're here for
He is a spoiled moron
I think after all of his shenanigans stroll deserves -1 as a new grade to the system
Sorry but -1 is way too high for him.
To quote my Pro Wrestling meme pages: "MINUS FIVE STARS"
@@ThereMayBeLionsomg Botchemania reference?
Completely agree
Completely agree
someone from the fia need to explain me why alonso got a harsher penalty than stroll his weekend
Or why Logan got a penalty at all instead of just being directed to surrender the position. I understand that the FiA is trying to be more consistent with its rulings, but when everyone thinks you've got it wrong... geez.
Daddy's Money
@@burritoomg Because FIA/Race Director/Stewards don't interfere with that anymore. It's up to the driver/team to figure out if they are entitled to keep the position or not. The Stewards will not ask them to do the right thing but will go straight to penalising if the teams don't figure it out themselves.
Daddy Stroll can hedge the FIAs pockets that’s why.
Because Alonso did it on purpose and they dont want him to do it again while Stroll was just stupid
I gott a 10/10 for the theam of mecanics of RedBull chainging tires...
yeah that was pretty insane. 1.9, 2.0, 2.0 and 2.1
I feel the grade for Daniel is a bit low.
Had a great qualifying both times and could have gotten points too. He was put on a sub optimal strategy however he closed an 11 second gap to Bottas to 5 seconds in 5 laps and had lots of pace in hand.
Agreed. Pulled more than half a second out of Yuki in sprint qualifying and 3 tenths in race qualy. Worthy of a 7/10 I reckon.
If Piastri gets a 7/10 for losing positions and being pretty far off Lando all weekend (which I think is a fair score for him honestly) I think Daniel deserved at least a 7 for being the stronger RB driver all weekend and at least running in the points before Stroll decided to do Stroll things. We don't know how screwed over he'd have been by the incredibly questionable strategy RB put him on but his pace was strong.
@@RaZor921without the safety car he was rapid on the fresher tyres as he went longer so would of pit later than the others towards the end and be rapid again.
With the safety car his mediums were still pretty fresh so probably could of held 8th for a while and then pit and be far quicker than everyone else on old hards so again could of made up lots of positions.
I think points were on the table for sure but unfortunately stroll happened
It’s very low, he made overtakes on Albon, Tsunoda and was chasing down Hamilton on pure pace. Fair to criticize him for the first 4 races but he should get some credit IMO
I think it's fair. It's hard to give a driver who DNFs a higher rating for what ifs. I think the ratings get interesting when/if Danny Ric finishes a race ahead of Yuki. Will he get a 10/10 like Yuki did or more like a 7/10 because the expectations on him as a race winner are a lot higher.
26:33 That red 0 feels so satisfying, even though we know there is nothing we plebs can concretely do to dislodge that man from his seat.
the more aston has to deal with hate the more it could potentialy impact them
also telling the sponsors could impact them since sponsors getting hate for a driver in a team they sponsor might sway their opinions and either pull out or put pressure on aston
stroll just want to lead the championship for most bratty f1 driver
It's so true - Everyone would be willing to cut Lance Stroll some slack - if head had only said, "My bad. Sorry about that Danny Ric."
Stroll being stroll took the heat off Kevin because wow, Kevin’s mistake was also diabolical.
The difference is that Kevin’s mistake was at least during the proper part of the race. Lance did Lance things behind the safety car
@tomk5066 that doesnt make it better. Both misjudged there opponent if anything kmags is more terrible because it's deliberate
@@ehrlichgesagt863 it’s definitely not deliberate. There is no benefit for Kevin to intentionally punt someone out of the race. Just rubbish driving from Lance and Kevin
Not giving us the averages over the season at the end of each video is a crime!
I made it a point to vote on the polls for this race just to grade Stroll at 0. Glad that was the general consensus from fans.
The problem is the boys sometimes look at where the car finished and sometimes look at where the car should have been and score that. If Yuki and Danny’s weekends were swapped it would have been a 3 for Daniel if not a 2 and a 7-8 for yuki.
I firmly believe that the only reason Magnussen and Stroll didn't crash when racing is because each driver fears the other equally
Even with battery and DRS they could not overtake Max when he did not have both. That was the scary part.
Man, the fans are so biased against Ocon.. My man dragged that tractor Alpine to 11th ahead of Albon, yet they gave Albon 6, and Ocon 5😅
He’s not very likable, doesn’t help
He is a tool box
He doesn’t help his case
I think it's more the opposite, they usually overrate Albon.
Also Lance being 0 is neigh impossible for me, you're telling me somehow all your fans voting which I'd imagine is in the hundreds all collectively gave a 0 and not plenty of 1s and 2s?
@@juuikonah a lot of ppl don‘t vibe with him from what i‘ve seen
me too, can‘t rly explain why
i still think the rating was unfair tho
I wonder what race the fans watched to give a 7 for Bottas
One thing I want to say is Ferrari probably has the best driver pairing of the bunch, because whichever driver is on top that day, the other driver is not far behind. We don't have the inconsistency like Merc drivers, Max's domination of Red Bull, or the Aston Martin Stroll debuff.
Don't know how you can give Sainz only one point lower than Leclerc, when you give Gasly 2 less than Ocon for actually being closer in the race than Sainz to Leclerc
And Ocon had the upgrades, for me Gasly technicaly did a better weekend when taking the circumpstances into account
Sainz also binned it in quali
@@Duval-In-The-Wall spun didn't bin it if he had he wouldn't have qualified next to leclerc
towards the last stint sainz was just nursing his tires ti bring it home because there was no threat to his position nor did he have to overtake leclerc ahead of him so the gap may seem a lot but it wasn't like he couldn't have shorten it
@@Arshmathur12 sorry but thats bs. His tyres were 2 laps older that doesn't make a difference of 10 seconds. Not to mention on the mediums in the first stint he was ALSO 10 seconds behind Leclerc
7 for Hamilton is interesting - as much as he really overperfomed in the sprint he was bailed out from a Terrible performance on the Sunday by lucky SC timing and stroll playing bowling infront - I think 6 is reasonable
Either is understandable but George was better this weekend overall tbh.
@@gameofender4463agreed
Absolutely. They gave him same grade as Perez..he should be 6
He didn't overperform in the sprint, he did just a good job. He already started 2nd, did a great job battling Lando at the start and from there he only let Max by.
5 at best. They always tippy toe around Hamilton for fear of being called racist
Gotta disagree with the ratings of Bottas and Ricciardo.
Explain
@@bobsyfant7289 he had a fair chance at points which normally gets yuki an 8+ at least until stroll decided to take him out of the race
he out qualified his team mate twice... by a long way
to give him a 6 while stroll, the dude who took him out got a 3???
Bottas should be at minimum a 9, imo Alonso too but that is a bit more debatable. Ricciardo should definitely be around a 7 or 8 as well
@@bobsyfant7289 Ricciardo was consistently faster than Yuki all weekend, and was fighting for points until Lance did what he did. Bottas was mopping the floor with Zhou in that shitbox Sauber and was fighting for points. The fact that he got the same rating as zhou is unbelievable.
Ignore this rating part. They're so biased and personal in this. Just enjoy their other podcast
What i think would be fun is if you also had a section that grades the team as a whole (basically strategy, pit crew etc etc)
3 is way too much for stroll who takes a piss on everyone who strives for betterment
@@christofferrsnes9508Tommy gave stroll a 3 and Matt gave him a 1
@@sean7412 still too high, should be a 0
@@RhomasTotevenaar oh no yeah i agree I was just tryna clarify
So you rate his race on the person? Nice to see that people arnt understand the hole idea of that. I mean if we are at that point why not let the fantasy vote before the race? It's obviously in no world a 0 or 1 it would be if he just lost the car while warming up his tyres but getting caught in 4 cars breaking in a place where you start Turing and rolling is not a terrible mistake
3 is a fine reflection of his weekend if you remove the antipathy for simply being Lance Stroll.
the fact ricciardo has a 3 place grid penalty for miami because he re-overtook hulkenberg who went past after strolls shenanigans is just not fair.
fia's rulebook is biting them.
It's all on him though... he asked on radio and before they could reply back, he just went for it. You can't blame anyone but him.
7 for Bottas? What are you people smoking?
Yeah, 8 or 9 imo, he was on for point(s) for the 3rd race in a row with that car as his teammate is struggling. Im just furious if he loses his seat for next year even with this form
@@lloyd8965I feel like, given Sauber's form or lack thereof, the only way Valteri's seat is at risk is if somehow they manage to get Carlos Sainz into that seat (which, why at this point - he's not desperate now) and court Nico Hulkenberg from Haas. Zhou would be the first to go, unless Bottas is just done with racing.
@@ThereMayBeLions well yeah but im afraid because they have been talking about so many drivers, sainz, hülkenberg, ocon, gasly, mick
Bottas was driving quite well considering his team is a disaster
@@ThereMayBeLions it's a hilarious fantasy that you considering a possibility of Carlos moving to Kick Sauber 😂
Lance stroll -10
Lance Stroll discovers negative numbers…
I mean sry but why? He made a error its not like it's impossible to get caught in that. We had drivers like George losing it under SC while warming up his tyres.
Errors can be made. But this wasn't an error. This was blatant Idiocracy. This is like a normal person trying to park the car but hitting the gas instead of the break. It's someone veering off to the right because of a distraction.
And on top of that blaming the people around him.
He has no place on track.
@@ehrlichgesagt863it wasn't an error it was stupidity
@@ehrlichgesagt863the main part isn't even the incident, that can indeed happen. It's his reaction afterward and his complete inability to admit his mistake that lowers him to a 1/10
@@ehrlichgesagt863 he blames EVERYONE else when he screws up. The mistake was bad, but his handling of it is even worse.
Daniel Ricciardo 6/10?
Did you guys watch his race? Had a shocking start, but his race pace was rapid and was storming back through the field after his extended first stint. He passed Tsunoda and was about to catch Hamilton as the safetycar came out. He was absolutely on for 9th or 10th without a doubt. Honestly could well have been 9th he was on it. His extended first stint put him in a really big advantage for the rest of the race.
Not just that but in the sprint he damn near went from 14th to 10th if it wasn't for Kevin's last lap defensive kamikaze moves.
In the races he was the best of the rest without a doubt. Such a shame the Stroll punt and safety cars ruined his race. Considering Yuki was near the slowest guy on the track all weekend that deserves some extra credit imo.
He was consistently 3-5 tenths faster than Yuki all weekend. If it was the other way round you would have given Daniel a 2-3 and Yuki a 9. Really biased or just unaware frankly.
I think many have also glossed over the fact he finally got his new chassis he's been calling for, and straight away he's had his best weekend by far and slam dunked Yuki. Miami will be confirmation but it's entirely possible he was racing with a faulty car the first few races.
Are you smoking? Ricardo still needed to box, he didn't box under Safety car so he had older tyres he would've been swormed by the first lap
@@chewtoffee5912 Disagree he only did like 4-5 laps on them after pitting. The rest were like 7-8 laps slow behind VSC/safety car. He would have had a good 5-10 laps pushing while others on new cold hard tyres.
See what Alonso did at the end? Ricciardo would have done the same more or less. We will never know though Stroll punted him into next week. Would have been fun to see him in 9th in clean air and then pitted for fresh soft tyres for the last stint.
Safety car did ruin his race though overall. Without any safety car, I think he had guaranteed 9th or 10th.
Regardless of all that. Point is Daniel was on it this weekend. To me it looks like the chassis issue was a real thing. He looked like his real self for the first time this year. Absolutely spanked Yuki all weekend.
@@supawavyrecords523 What? So hypothetically if there was no Saftey car does that mean hypothetically Bottas doesn't DNF? Then from P10-8 would be between Stroll, Bottas or Hulkenberg. This was Riccardo's best race but he wasn't getting points
@@chewtoffee5912ricciardo closed down Bottas from 11 seconds to 5 seconds in 5 laps all while overtaking other cars.
He easily had the pace to be fighting around Bottas who was in the points
@@chewtoffee5912 Yes his race pace and tyre offset would have played a huge advantage without any safety cars. Most of the pack behind the top 8 cars pitted on lap 6-7. They were going to be fucked by the end. They were saved by having like 12 or so laps behind the safety car.
Sargeant getting a 4 for a pretty clean and tidy race but Magnussen getting a 5 for crashing into Tsunoda is fucking wild. Did the guy turn you down for an interview or something?
7:30 The Sprint Shootout wasn't fully wet though, only SQ3 was wet and since Ricciardo was knocked out in SQ2, he couldn't do anything to shake things up in the wet for SQ3.
true 4 for yuki qualifying 19th both times and 6 for daniel doesn't seem fair
Lando now has the record for the biggest pole margin in the turbo-hybrid era + was the only person this year so far that beat a Red Bull without them having issues (Australia) he deserved that 10/10 this weekend despite his error in the sprint, because in that McLaren with zero performance updates thus far this is insanely impressive
2. best margin actually. Hamilton Styrian gp quali was bigger i think
10/10 is way too much.
That mistake cost him a firm 3rd place and instead got 6th
Even as a lando fan he didn't deserve the 10. Excluding the sprint, this is probably his best weekend in his career. But factoring in the sprint you just can't give him a 10. Even if he just gave up the position and held p2, or even p3, it would've been an easy 10. But it was too big a blunder to overlook imo.
@@epicgamerchannel6230 Landos best weekend was austin 22 imo
Lando deserves a 9. Coming from a lando fan. That sprint start costed him. Would have been 10/10 if he stayed behind Lewis at start. But 9/10.
Let me get this straight, on the earlier podcast it was agreed Piastri was a “clear flop” but here he gets a 7?
How does that work?
I think he was more of a flop result-wise, given the damage he carried throughout the race. It doesn't mean it was his fault, but that's their definition of a "flop" I think.
I agree I think he should have gotten a 5 or 6 at best
@@Wolfywolf7 Oscar said himself 5th was possible without the damage but he was something like 12 seconds behind at the first pit stop. He's having some slow weekends.
@@JC-lu4se P5 would have been a solid result.
I strongly believe that Oscar will be a force to be reckoned with on the grid in a few years time. His cool composure is going to really help him under high-pressure racing scenarios.
People are putting too much expectation on him too early, I feel like. I don't think he should be expected to match or be super close Lando like a lot of people are saying, especially considering Lando is one of the most talented drivers on the grid, and very in tune with his car and his team.
@@Wolfywolf7I mean Oscar was 1.5 seconds a lap slower than lando before the damage so I'm surprised he didnt get rated 5
Ricciardo 6 is harsh, out-qualified his teammate twice and his race pace was superb, he was moving so fast the broadcasters actually showed him on TV
He wasn't getting any points all too likely and was out in q2
EXACTLY - especially when giving lance a 3!
@@sarperdogan6454 What are you smoking? He was in 9th on the mediums and ahead of Hulk on that safety car, before stroll ended his race. There was still a 3rd of the race to go at that point.
I swear people have all kinds of blinders on just so they can put him down. Its very weird and pathetic behavior, even from these 2 hosts.
@@Sykrettshe was only 9th because he didnt pit, if he did, he would be behind Tsunoda. Ricc still has to do another pit, while the others dont.... and he can't do an Alonso and take back positions because the RB isn't a podium car.
Its crazy especially when yuki got a 4/5. He was very comfortably ahead of him all weekend, and one point difference?
Ocon had a new chassis and floor that Gasly did not have. His car is more than 4kg lighter than gasly this Week end. He should be more ahead.
He was as close to the points as possible, not like he could stay ahead of Hamilton and the Haas and Sauber were clearly still faster than Alpine
20:13 well his jumber is 55 so it makes sense 😂
Just saw a Ferrari post on X... Charles is the only driver to have been consistently in top 4 and still people are saying "bad" things about him 🤦😂
7:28 Ricciardo waving right in front of a Stroll picture is just pure comedy😂😂
Great video as always. I would like to propose a team rating as well. Where you guys take in to consideration, pit stops, strategy, team orders, etc.
You want another list lead by RB? 😅
7/10 for Ocon?
Dude outqualified his teammate and finished P11 in a literal Golf Cart. A 9 if I have ever seen one!
Stroll is the Nikita Mazepin that won't go away.
Do you guys even know that Ocon had the upgrades and not Gasly, and still Pierre qualified ahead in the sprint and was very close? Pierre deserves at least a 7, his main race was fantastic with a very long pitstop and only 1 hard tyre left (like Alonso)
These 2 are clueless, they look at the result without even knowing basic context
Stroll getting a 0 is 100% justified, maybe even too generous.
Gasly basically matched ocon all weekend without upgrades and he gets a 5
they hate the french, nothing new
5:0 in quali what else do you want😂
@@RobertoRodriguez-fe2ts stupid argument, Gasly had gearbox problem in the first 3 races in qualy (couldn't even make it to Jeddah race start)
Hii, just a suggestion but it would be lovely if you guys could recap all your driver ratings halfway through the season when there's the summer break! Like a 'How do the drivers fair rank-wise for the first half of the season'! I think it would be nice for us to see and also obviously is an easy video for you guys during a time where (probably xD) nothing much happens in the world of F1!
Cheers! ^^
22:51 The sarcasm!! 😂😂🤝
Actually Stroll deserved -10 for that lack of taking the blame for the incident.
Can we rate the FIA? I give them a two, for the utterly bungled safety car issue when Bottas stopped and the ludicrous penalty for Ricciardo.
Lance deserves a 10/10. Just because the memes and content has been hilarious
Nice account mate haha. 10/10
THE NERVE!
lol your account is funny, meanwhile if i say that term in youtube comments my comments get deleted
@Sem5626 I think user names get more of a pass since someone *could* have window as a first name and licker as a last name
The disrespect for bottas from the fans is insane
Low grip circuits are a double edged sword, we get better wheel to wheel racing due to there being multiple lines you could potentially take (example was turn 2 in china) and it was wild seeing overtakes in high speed corners such as the eases in Japan or the sweepers in china as well. But when everyone has low grip the red bulls (specifically max) have time warm up and or prep on lock cause he just drives away in these low grip conditions
Daniel was 2 seconds behind Hamilton going into the safetu car who finished comfortably in the points. RB just had to pit him like Merc did with Hamilton. To say he wasnt close to points is unfair I think
Giving Stroll anything above a 1 is silly. The 1 was generous. He doesn't belong in a race car, period, let alone the 4th best car on the grid at the moment.
He didn't just destroy Ricciardo's car, he damaged Piastri's as well. Then to take no responsibility at all and immediately blame the person he wrecked?
Lawrence Stroll needs to pull him from the car. He won't, but he could at least sit him out for a race and put a young driver in there.
In fact, I say go for full publicity and put either Abbi Pulling or Doriane Pin in the car and make Lance watch. Can you imagine if either one of them is faster than him?
Hell, they're all in Miami next race, do it there. At a minimum they'll take the racing seriously and own up to any mistakes they make.
5/10 for Gasly who finished P13 and was driving an Alpine tractor without upgrades (unlike Ocon) is insanly harsh. He would have got a 7/10 if he was british and not french
You do realise guys are both fans of non-British drivers. And regardless, we dont know how much of a difference those upgardes actually made. For all we know, it could have made little/no difference. So with that in mind, they gave him the correct rating.
It's always cute watching people desperate to go "you overrate British drivers" when it's quite clear that out of desperation people underrate British drivers so they won't be accused of such
@@bill4665yeah sure, having an heavier Alpine car must be better for Gasly 😂
@@alexp2327 you do realise that just bcs its lighter, it doesnt make it 1 second a lap better. He was still comfortably behind Ocon. We don't know how the upgrade effects the cars performance. Just bcs its lighter, it doesnt make it quicker necessarily. You dont know what advantages they may have reduced to complete the weight reduction. Stop being oblivious to the most obvious flaws. For all we know, Gasly could beat Ocon by 15 seconds in Miami and all of sudden their back to square one. There was 0 definitive evidence that they were separated by the upgrade, as the gap wasnt significant, just consistant.
@@bill4665 what make you think that those upgrades were only weight related ?
The photo of Dany with the giant smirking Lance face in the background is hilarious.
7:27 love the pic - Danny Ric smacking Stroll in the face 😂
Ah, someone else noticed... 😂
Perez 7 just like Hamilton, doesn’t seem fair.
Its fair imo, he got 3rd in both races and does what red bull expect of him. Maybe a 6 would be better?
Hamilton 7/10 is perfect i think. Over achieving with the car in the sprint quali and sprint race, but under achieving in quali and feature race.
Perfectly fair
@@christofferrsnes9508 Im not a Pérez fanboy but didn't he was screwed by his own engineer and by the safety car?
@@billypilgrim1 Should have been given an 8.
Fr ,even though i am a checo fan he didnt have a bad race. He ended up on the podium which is great and maybe stratagy could have got him 2nd. I personally think they just dont like him tho
@@christofferrsnes9508the only reason Hamilton got 2nd in the sprint is because Alonso helped him
How can Zhou get a 7? Even a 6 is ridiculous. He was thoroughly outperformed by bottas in every metric bar a sprint race where his wing was broken. He was like 7 seconds off the pace in sprint qualifying and was out-qualified by like 5 tenths in the same session by bottas in Saturday qualifying. This is just home race washing a pretty shocking performance
and at the same time Ocon get 7 with an Alpine... lol
its the chinese tax coming into effect. +10 for giving him a 7
Pity points because he most likely drove his first and last Home Race😅
+200 social credit points for Matt and Tommy
To be fair, Bottas broke his wing on Zhou's rear wheel. If anything, it was on Bottas in the sprint.
7:22 - love the graphic of Danny Ric giving Lance a high 5 in the face 😆
Lance is taking up and wasting a perfectly good seat.
He is not just running his dad's bank account, but also getting in the way of all the F2 drivers careers that are clearly more capable than he is.
8:45 logie went into the gravel in qualifying q1
Tommy living dangerously. I am loving it
and *the fans gave Lance a ZERO* :D
"Im not watching Formula 1 but this Max verstappen guy seems pretty good" - My mom.
She obviously has a quick grasp . . . . .😅
Well new fans don't know the cars are unequal and only really care about p1,I'm not saying max is bad or anything I think he might end up as the greatest ever when he retires but if the cars were equal its possible that someone like leclerc might beat him
12:42 for the start of the Stroll 'not my fault' savaging.
Tommy was just on fire in this EP :D
I think we should start giving Oscar less lenience for having significantly worse race pace than Lando, he's not a rookie anymore. 6/10 for me.
Most experienced people say rookies need two years. Additionally, Piastri was one of the four drivers who'd never driven Shanghai which is notorious for tyre deg.
@@walover165Piastri has been far off lando everywhere other than Saudi,Idk how much better he will get but I've seen so many better drivers like leclerc who was beating seb in his 2nd year while Oscar is majority of the time finishing miles behind lando
it's only his second year, and had significant damage. let's not forget he has more wins than lando
One whole season....geez let's take Oscar to the cleaners now. Shows how much you know about F1.
5:33 "I think he would be world champ if we had nore low grip tracks while he was in mercedes."
2020 Turkey flashbacks
Mmmmm yes I’ve been waiting for this
7:29 not stroll being in the background with danny ric
how do the points work in the sprint race ?
12:42 for the best part of the video
You should rate the sprint and race separate than average then for the weekend with double weight on the race
How do I do the fan vote?
Wheel Knowledge episode on the the new proposed points system
The RB’s were both running low df rear wings all weekend. I’m fairly certain that was a pretty large part of thier wet qualifying performance.
13:28 WORD
Average ratings after China
Average Matt ratings
Max Verstappen: 10
Oliver Bearman: 10
Carlos Sainz: 8.75
Charles Leclerc: 8.2
Fernando Alonso: 8
Lando Norris: 8
Sergio Perez: 7.6
Oscar Piastri: 7.4
Nico Hulkenberg: 7.4
Yuki Tsunoda: 7.2
George Russell: 6.8
Valtteri Bottas: 6.4
Alex Albon: 6
Lewis Hamilton: 6
Kevin Magnussen: 5.8
Zhou Guanyu: 5.6
Esteban Ocon: 5.6
Pierre Gasly: 4.8
Daniel Ricciardo: 4.2
Lance Stroll: 4
Logan Sargeant: 4
Average Tommy ratings
Max Verstappen: 10
Oliver Bearman: 10
Carlos Sainz: 8.75
Charles Leclerc: 8.2
Fernando Alonso: 8
Lando Norris: 8
Oscar Piastri: 7.6
Sergio Perez: 7.6
Nico Hulkenberg: 7.2
Yuki Tsunoda: 6.8
George Russell: 6.6
Valtteri Bottas: 6.4
Esteban Ocon: 6.2
Lewis Hamilton: 6
Kevin Magnussen: 5.8
Alex Albon: 5.6
Zhou Guanyu: 5.2
Pierre Gasly: 4.8
Lance Stroll: 4
Daniel Ricciardo: 4
Logan Sargeant: 3.75
Average fan ratings
Max Verstappen: 10
Oliver Bearman: 10
Carlos Sainz: 8.75
Charles Leclerc: 8
Lando Norris: 8.2
Sergio Perez: 7.6
Fernando Alonso: 7.6
Oscar Piastri: 7.4
Nico Hulkenberg: 7.2
Yuki Tsunoda: 7
Kevin Magnussen: 6.8
George Russell: 6.8
Alex Albon: 6
Lewis Hamilton: 5.6
Zhou Guanyu: 5.4
Valtteri Bottas: 5.4
Pierre Gasly: 5
Esteban Ocon: 5
Lance Stroll: 4
Daniel Ricciardo: 4
Logan Sargeant: 3.75
even when it comes to fan ratings Yuki can't help but be the king of P10 or P11
15:55 Aston didn't make a mistake on the strategy. The only other alternative was putting on a set of mediums which would mean he'd have to pit again anyway.
"Magnussen doing Magnussen things" LOL oh wow, that one hurt. XD
KMag had 1 qualifying attempt in Q1 vs Hulkenbergs 3. First attempt he was ahead of Hulkenberg. Second attempt he missed because he was on weighbridge. Third attempt he hit Sargeant yellow flag. Then had a horrible starting place and had to gamble on some hards. Obviously a 3/10 to fit the narrative ...
Bottas being given a 9 is wild and interesting to me.
To recap
Sprint:
Qualified 9th
Finished 12th
-Very impressive qualifying but his race pace was poor and only lost positions.
Grand Prix Qualifying: 10th
Finished: DNF
-This to me says that his qualifying is not only impressive but not a fluke with the rain. His race was looking solid but he did lose a position of the start and was more or less just chillin in 10th.
Compare him to Hulk who got a 9 as well he had an incredible GP qualifying and race but a shocking sprint race and solid qualifying for the sprint. I say that he deserves the 9 more as both Bottas and Hulk had similar sprint race results and Hulk out qualified him in the GP qualifying. But most importantly he finished the GP, Bottas didn’t so Hulk’s results are not based around an if and maybe like Bottas.
What I mean is that Bottas DNFing left a lot of questions as to how he would go if he did complete the race, even worse or better. Compare his DNF to Ricciardo who got the short end of the stick as it is assumed by Matt and Tommy that Ricciardo wouldn’t do well if he didn’t DNF because of his position in the pitstops which was bad, but unfair to say he was very unlikely to finish in the points. You just don’t know.
So I give Bottas an 8 instead
Lance Stroll is the kid at school who gets pieces of eraser thrown at him
19:35 while a valid point, Oscar did get a sprint win - on merit - against said "man and machine that has broken every record"
Maximizing 😅
Regarding the negativity around Norris, I think people expect him to have clued into the whole race thinking more than he seems to have done at this point. He's generally quick and displays good race pace, but he's not yet that driver that can pull of the sort of thing that Alonso did on his last tire stint. He has (mostly last season) allowed Max to goad him into thinking he was competitive with the Red Bull because he could match lap times, when the reality is Max wasn't pushing. The worry is will that negatively affect him if this continues, which it seems like it will.
Leclerc has had issues with whole race pace until recently,, and I think part of that was mental,- not quite giving up, but not exactly thinking about how to make something more out of the race than the car seems capable of. The one stop in Japan may well have been the turning point for him, but being unable to pressure Lando or Perez make his drive feel a bit bland.
But I think the bigger issue with both of them is that fans are (rightfully) concerned that they're going to churn away their careers and eventually fizzle out without a championship because neither of them can compete with Max and that Red Bull on a consistent basis, and Max is neither leaving F1 nor moving to a team with a worse car.
24:17 Perez, fastest car, Max finishing 13 seconds ahead in the sprint... 3rd... and you think it might even be an 8? While Lando is a 9? What the fuck...
Fans gave Ocon a 5/10?!
Oh dear, oh dear.
He got the new upgrades but was barely better then Gasly.
@@Ronny999xand he’s still in 11th in a tractor, was unlucky to not get points in Australia too, he’s been wiping the floor with Gasly so far this season
I don't think people realise how quick ricciardo was compared to yuki this weekend. In Sprint quali he was 6 tenths quicker and main quali he was 5 tenths quicker. Then in the main race yuki had a better start and was 1 second behind on softs and was slower than Daniel. Then after everyone had boxed ricciardo had clear air and was doing the same pace as Sainz and Piastri ahead. He came out only 4 seconds off yuki all be it he had a 7 lap undercut on daniel. He caught yuki within 3 laps I think and was about to pass Hamilton but then Stroll came along and said you've had enough today. So yeah I think people are thowing daniel under the raider this weekend.
Where did you pull the data from thst he was as quick as Sainz etc? RB had the worst pace overall if you count out Tyres types and degradation.
Not saying he was bad but these comparisons are wild to say the least...
Ricciardo was absolutely flying after his stop, running 7-8 tenths faster than his teammate
Hoping for more of that in the future, when he’s on, he is a menace
@@MelisTime After everyone had stopped the gap to sainz was 12.3 seconds and at the end of his stint which was about 6 laps latter it was 12.6 seconds.
@@NetBenders10 thats not how that works m8. I can list a few laps if you like:
Lap 9 : +0.8
Lap 10: +0.1
Lap 11: +0.2
Lap 12: +0.8
Lap 13: +0.6
After that its not comparable anymore...
@@MelisTime drs lad
Matt, well said regarding Charles and Lando. They're producing excellent performances and one mistake doesn't a washed make.
Ver (Seb): 13:03
2024: 13:03 14:18 14:42 15:15 15:50
Ver (Ham): 22:02 22:30 23:00
22:50
Why does Bottas get an actual score for DNFing, but Max got an N/A in Australia?
Because a 7 would increase bottas's average while a 7 for max would distort nax's average I'm guessing
@@hideouspatje bottas actually had runtime, max had his issue right at the start. not much to comment about
Bcs in Aus, Max didnt get a chance to show his race performance so essentially missed an entire session. Here tho, Bottas was racing comfortably in his position and showed 0 sign of losing while racing. So its significant enough to give him a rating.
Because it is a Max fan boy page..
@@ryanshek4101 Get a grip pal.
Well, we will never see a P1 video with Aston Martin 😂
Stroll just comes across so arrogant. In the post race interview he didn't even mention Ricciardo by name but just kept saying "the car in front of me". The least you could do is own up to your mistake and say something along the lines of "I didn't do it on purpose and I'm sorry to have hit Daniel's car".
To be honest, I think many forgot it's Zhou's first time race on the Shanghai Circuit. And for the first Chinese F1 driver on home Grand Prix, not crashing out is enough. (And thank god Sauber didn't f-ed up his car, imagine the outrage if he had engine trouble just like Bottas...)
Stroll -1 points , the fact that his team tried to blame this on Verstappen is just ...just....I dont have words for that ....
Verstappen's response to the crash tells me how serious he took it lmao.
also haas team principal blaming yuki too
LOL. Love the reactions Stroll is generating. Think I'm turning into a fan of Sir Lancelot.
7 out of 10 for piastri is outrageous. He was so much slower than his teammate. Nobody else would get a 7 for that performance.
I'm confused by Tommy's logic. When criticizing Stroll's qualifying, he cited Alonso's quali as where the car should be on the grid, but when he was talking about Alonso's qualifying, he said the car had no business being anywhere near the second row. Not sure if i'm just not understanding him properly or if there's some double standards going on there? Both statements can't be true.
‘Peres is doing what he needs to do’ let’s give him a 7.
He finished behind a Mclaren and couldn't even get close to him in the last 10 laps. Solid weekend but he needs to be P2 in order to get an 8 or 9.
I'm always in for a "BOooh !" on stroll but on the qualif he was out by 0.3 and 0.4 sec from Alonso (maybe the best driver all around of the "plateau"), and in race stroll wasn't that ridiculous he just took 29 sec from Alonso, compare that to the 0.5 in qualif by Lewis from Russel and the 20 sec in race, and Norris in race put Piastri 43 sec away.