Our F1 Driver Ratings for the 2024 Miami Grand Prix
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Fred Vasseur 10/10 for joining in the celebrations with lando/mclaren
The whole grid and all the fans are celebrating with Lando 😊 10/10 for everyone
Max gets a 10 for being a savage with the press 🎉
Fred gets out of bed a 10/10
@@mamavswild “if my mother had balls, she’d be my dad”. Everyone gets a 10, except of course the media who deliver non stops Ls every single weekend. 0/10.
yess and now he complains abouth the safetycar that helps lando wins hahahhaa
Tommy is like Oprah; You get a 10, you get a 10 and you get a 10 ...
EVERYBODY GETS A 10
Apart from George who got underscored here tbh. At least worthy of a 6/10 or 7/10.
@@gameofender4463 Logan Sergeant gets at 10 as well. 10/100.
@@trevorhintz1290 Yeah, the fact George got the same rating as Logan is ridiculous.
Tbf, a lot drivers had VERY good weekends.
Lando, Charles, Oscar, Ocon, Tsunoda...
@@gameofender4463He was miles off Lewis most of the weekend...
Matt: "And the fans gave Pierre Gasly a 5."
[insert the GIF of Max Verstappen reacting to Checo's divebomb]
Matt & Tommy : " Fans give 5 for Stroll... alright... same as Gasly... that's crazy"
Dude a 5 is insane. The man got 9th in the sprint and was ahead of Ocon until he got screwed by the safety car timing
People seem to forget that Piastri didn't get all the upgrades that Lando did.
Piastri was the best driver ,Norris was the luckiest driver when the safety car picked max by mistake...0 to sky for the gushing and over the top reaction to a pure luck win
I don't , lando was gifted a race ,by a safety car picking max by mistake , piastri performed like a stallion with great overtakes on a lower spec car than his teammate
He could be absolute fire in Imola, can’t wait
Omg that’s right! Thanks for reminding me…now I regret the score I sent in. 😅
Oh damn, i didn't even know and i still gave him a 10. He did have a better weekend but Lando did win so yeah
KMAG deserves a 10! He gave us a Lando win, nothing else matters
Actually that was Logan Sargent, but KMag doesn't deserve the blame for their crash either. Say what you want but Logan deserves the 10 for the Lando win.
@@pederslothzuricho7685yeah I don’t know why magnussen gets blamed for that, 0/10 is very unfair he helped Hulkenberg so much in the sprint race that is just like Perez holding up Hamilton in 2021.
He got his 10, 10 penalty points.
@@finnfasty2347You guys who ignore Magnussens terrible driving standards are hilarious. Are you blind or purposely ignorant?
@@Liam94Smith cope
Tommy 18:41 “its driver ratings not results ratings” on OSCAR - 19:44 “10 out of 10 PURELY ON RESULTS” on LANDO - You have the same consistency as the FIA guys that hand out penalties during the race!
And it IS somehow getting worse week by week
Tbf even without the safety car, Lando had the best pace all race. He just got stuck behing Perez because Miami is a bad track
@@russianmegabot5272 yeah, they seems so lost rn. They don't even be objective anymore, just pure fanboys and Sainz haters
@@Redlingstein Yeah while the soft tyres absolutely cooked in the qualy, he had the best pace in the race like I said
Thats why they are so good at their job
Matt: ratings are not results based
Also Matt: ratings are results based
😂😂😂
00:02 Matt trying to rizz up his subscribers 😂😏
it worked 😍😍😍
I am already pregnant....and male
Lolololol next time on P1 FM just lovesongs
Glad to see Tommy put some respect on Piastri's name. He was running in second for a lot of the race despite not having the fully upgraded car.
think people are sleeping on the fact that before the safety car, Piastry was actually outperforming Norris in a less upgraded 2 tenths slower McLaren
Oscar's race pace was definitely impressive giving the fact that he's often been significantly slower than Lando. And you can see how important the qualifying and start are, would've been interesting to see what had happened without the safety car. I think Lando would've done some overtaking with that pace but Oscar could've definitely been higher up. (If, if, if, if my mum had balls she would be by dad.) SO happy for Lando though. Exciting times ahead in that McLaren garage!
he did most derinitely not outperform Lando. Oscar had similar pace but on average race pace the first 30 laps Lando was 2 tenths above Oscar per lap.
Piastri was never faster than Norris at any point during the weekend 😂
Definitely not outperforming. Was outqualified and had slightly lower race pace, but did well in the opening 3 corners, which is commendable.
@@nuun0010 ‘Opening 3 corners’ 😭
His race pace deficit wasn’t ‘slightly’ lower either. In clean air, Norris was around 0.5s per lap faster.
Zhou got screwed by his strategy he did 30 laps on set of softs. He beat Bottas fair and square, deserves at least a 6
I don't know, man, I feel like this is getting a bit silly with all the 10s.
10/10 should be the PERFECT weekend, no mistakes, extracting the maximum out of the car. Should be something rare.
Yes imo lando does not deserve a 10/10 because he majorly underperformed in both sprint and normal quali and won thanks to things going his way,9/10 for me because with the way Charles performed this weekend he would've gotten pole in that mclaren both times and won both races without max touching him. Not saying leclerc had the better race but overall more maximised weekend with the car he was given
I completely agree. If we are taking into account the ENTIRE weekend, you absolutely cannot give Lando a 10/10. Poor quali results in both sessions, especially in the sprint quali, which starting 9th put him in a bad position at the start to be yeeted out of the race. IMO, they basically gave him a 10 for his driving in the final stint after the safety car when he was able to pull away from Max and win the race. I agree that it was a very impressive final stint, but you can't judge his weekend based solely on that and getting his first F1 race win. Honestly, there is a pretty compelling argument that Piastri had a better weekend overall based purely on his driving considering he had only half the upgrades that Lando did.
Completely agree, no one deserved a 10 this race weekend, but the worst of the lot is giving yuki a 10! Terrible justification.
EXACTLY and you can even say it again louder. I think in a season there can't really be more than 5 10/10 results
@@greenfj1466Yuki was in the same boat as lando too. Rolled the dice and came out massively ahead due to the safety car. A solid 7/10 drive but clearly not a 10/10
Carlos should get lower for me. He got visibly frustrated for Oscar not getting a penalty and it showed in his driving.
I could literally see his pills rolling away... But remember he spent the whole sprint at the back of somebody, I would have been also frustrated to have to same fate for the main race as well.
Thank you! 10/10 for Yuki was easy. He's establishing himself as a legit talent. 7 for Logan, he looked REALLY quick in flashes.
Agreed! On both points!
Blaming Stroll for the sprint crash is insane. He had someone on his outside and how’s he supposed to predict that Hamilton is dive bombing? Also giving Alonso a 6 is insane considering he had one of his worst weekends since he came back
Yep, a rational take, which the Stroll hate cult will never understand. He also outqaulified Alonso the whole weekend. Stroll was one of the drivers taken out. His engineered screwed his strat in the race. Lance did nothing wrong this weekend. Should maybe at least get a 5-6 or so for that....even if the result wasn't there. But these are click-bait commentators I'm realizing. They don't seem to have an understanding of the details. When you "have one job" though, it should matter.
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How can you give Hamilton an 8 for bowling a strike? And then say Perez almost got a zero for missing a spare.
Ikr
When a generation grow up seeing only Lewis winning they get that bias.... Lewis almost drove live Stroll going for the gap which was gonna close anyways... FIA when I see Mercs mistakes they are soft towards Mercs usually the top teams because any mess up their graps a lot of media attention.... One can easily pick instances where big teams get the green but when the same is done by a mid runner they are penalised. Stewarts are very erratic nowadays.
The british bias I guess
@@HAbarneyWK social media effect because you see only one guy becoming a social media champion so when influenced for a few years you defend them without you knowing.
Sprint vs real race
Am I right in thinking Lando went from 5th to 1st without overtaking anyone this weekend?
started 5th but was actually overtaken in the beginning, so he was really 6th and then was handed first. So went 5th to 1st without overtaking anyone and being overtaken once lol
He was the fastest driver and the best at conserving the tires though.
Your mum is your dad.
You are correct, he did a Gasly
@@John333Scout He was technically overtaken in the beginning but it was very unlucky. He had a great start and could have tried to overtake one of the Ferrari's but Checo got back into the track right in front of him so Lando had to brake significantly, which meant Oscar passed him because he was not blocked.
My favourite thing about the weekend was how max was a meme all weekend 😂😂 him saying LOL then the mum if she had balls comment would be my dad and the sarcastic comment about the bollard he took out. Inner kimi
I wanted to yell at Matt and Tommy: ‘No Max don’t make that mistake, he just didn’t like the bollard and was doing a community service by removing it! He said so himself’
On trackax deserves a 9. Off track a solid 10/10
10/10 for Piastri... 8/10 for Norris... drove well but also fortunate... the rating is for driver performance over the whole weekend.
The fact that the fans put Yuki as an 8 for that weekend shows how under appreciated he really is. If that was Ricciardo, everyone would’ve said 10
Nah, just shows how little the f1 community know about the sport now.
Dan should have had the higher score for 4th, neither of them made overtakes in either race.. it was just down to quali position and strategy
What did yuki do though ? He had made it to Q3 that’s it, made 0 overtakes in either race, he did nothing
@@Chris-sf2cp same with his previous 7th, he only went backwards from 8th but 4 drivers dropped out... so much of the narrative is down to luck, it's how DeVries got a drive and Lawson is likely to even though the results looked better than his pace vs Yuki.
Yuki didn’t get p4 in the sprint. I know it’s just a sprint, but it’s still good points that he didn’t get
I understand how both of you guys gave Zhou a 5 out of 10, but I'm disappointed how neither of you or the Sky Sports coverage even mentioned the fact that Zhou got to P8 at one stage of the race!! He could've potentially got the first points for Kick Sauber.
Cause they don't actually do their homework.
Not one mention of Hulk cutting a chicane leaving KMAG the team player without DRS after magically getting up to 8th and not be willing to help his teammate. If we want the judgmental drama let’s at least acknowledge that Hulk would never do for KMAG and the team what KMAG is willing to do for his team and Hulk.
They don't care. They love being bias as fuck
Haas pulled the same thing on KMag that they pulled on Mick Schumi in Austria
Honestly, if everyone in the field was on the KMAG penalty-o-meter, that would have been 10 seconds for Hulk. Probably Hamilton, Alonso, and Stroll should have had 10 seconds each for turn 1 lap 1. Sargent probably should have gotten a 10 second penalty for his part in the wreck. Hulk another 10 seconds for defending against Hamilton, and perhaps another 10 for leaving the track. All I want is for all drivers to be judged by the same standard, whether it's the Ocon 2023/Magnussen 2024 standard or something looser.
It's worth mentioning and keeping in consideration for sure, especially since kmag himself remarked on it.
Hulkenberg screwed Magnussen in Magnussen's eyes, and I am 95% sure that is why we saw KMAG go full chaos mode, he would have stayed clean if Hulk hadn't dropped him and showed him that all those sacrifices for the team meant jack all in the end.
@@adaml83 Next time Magnussen shows up on the grid -> penalty. It seems to be just fine and natural to give him 10s penalties.
Here's what I want to know. He said that he is driving like this for the team. We have even heard team radio giving him instructions that sort of says the same thing. So why isn't the TEAM being scrutinized or investigated by the FIA for misconduct?
Because Kevin has his hands on the wheel and feet on the pedals. Not that deep.
He was defending for himself, got a penalty and then said f this ill drive for the team. Hes using it as an excuse but he got the first penalty himself.
And im saying this as someone who loved what he did
@@Redlingstein he got the penalties for running another driver off track and simultaneously leaving the track and gaining an advantage. That’s definitely a penalty otherwise why not run completely wide and push everyone off track every time you defend in a braking zone? That would be a joke of a race.
At least try to be not delusional lol
@@ciaranlynch2128 He got the first penalty because of cutting the chicane in front of Hamilton. Hulkenberg did this in front of him, no penalty. Verstappen did this in front of Piastri, no penalty. For Kmag 10s penalty which is equal to a black flag on Sprint race. Ridiculous.
@@kralg exactly, even Hamilton did dirty during sprint and he was given a penalty. No one seems to remember he crashed
Max hitting the cone allowed Kmag pit under VSC and came out the pits right next to Sargeant. So technically... Max caused his own demise cutting a chicane
a 10/10 should only be relevant if the driver does a perfect weekend. Lando deserved the win 100%, but it was in no way a perfect weekend. Looking especially on the sprint.
You guys forgot to mention oscar didnt have the full upgrade package which zac said cost oscar 3 tenths a lap on lando which means that lando and oscar had the same race pace. Oscar could have won the race if mclaren didnt pitt him when they did. Oscar definitely deserved a 10. Was as good as lando. His luck and win will come.
Love what was on Lando's board. "This one's for Gil." 😢
Couldn't be happier for Lando, he deserved that.
Noris only gets a 10 because it’s his first win but Oscar drove just as well until he got whacked
Yuki gets 9/10 for me too bc of the SQ but I believe he can qualify high too in the future. Maybe in Mexico. Thank you for thee Yuki prop as always!
Kmag was robbed of points in this ranking!
0 is crazy when he was the reason for his teammate getting a point
Nah, if you drive badly you get lower points. Kinda how it goes 😂
It was not just his dirty driving, it was also because on the competitive side he was very poor.
@@soundscape26 he was in the points right behind Hülkenberg in the sprint, would've easily been double points but Hülk cut the chicane and broke the DRS so hamilton was able to fight Magnussen
@@Liam94Smith yeah but they never gave anyone a 0. They just hate KMag
Matt should have considered, piastri only got 50% of the upgrades this weekend
That makes his pace even more impressive
Surely magnussen better than a 1/0: helped his teammate get points in sprint, actually raced close (questionably close) with hamilton and gave us something to enjoy this year
(Also well done lando, fully deserved!)
The British bias is real.. it’s just pure hate. Saying he qualified way behind Hulk - he had 5 car traffic during his flier.
And they claimed Zhou was 5 times better than Magnussen......
@@kelvinchocolate7045 they gave Stroll more than KMag. It’s insane!
yeah but these lots are brain dead and try to fake wheel knowledge 🤷♂️
It was probably because of the penalties, while yes it was good defending for his teammate,
it wasn't exactly legal defending, 3x10 second penalties and 3 penalty points for the sprint race, and then the Sargent incident (I don't think it was Kmags fault) he got 10 second penalty and 2 penalty points, on top of an extra 20 second penalty because he drove through the pit lane under safety car conditions without changing his tyres"
I just started but since Max was the biggest flop I assume he got a 1 out of 10.
For some reason, he gave his biggest flop a 9/10.... interesting...
He can’t have a 1/10 for being on pole, winning the sprint and being on Grand Prix pole, then finishing p2 with potential damage.
Yes lando was impressive but that doesn’t take away from Verstappen
@@formulaendurance Obviously the above comment was taking issue with the "biggest flop" bullcrap, not the rating.
Yuki’s score was spot on!
He is driving the socks out of what he has
This is where multiple realities would be nice. We could find one where Max didnt get damage. Or there was no SC and find out the results 😄
I know everyone has favourites, but Alonso being ranked higher than Lance is . . . . bold.
Outside of that penalty for overtaking Albon, (which he had to take once Albon locked up into last place) he basically out drove Alonso all weekend as the on track gap was only the time Alonso saved by pitting under the virtual safety car. I understand he had his part in the sprint race incident but he did leave space for Norris on the outside so he was in a bit of a lose/lose situation there.
P9 vs P17 in the end
I think it's fair.
This guys know nothing about F1, Daniel was trash and gave him an 8, Perez finished 7s behind Max with older tires and gave him a 6, Alonso was lucky with the virtual and he was higher than Stroll
You’ve done Stroll dirty with that photo.😂 14:40
They did Stroll dirty with the rating as well. He out-qualified Alonso in both sessions and got hit into from Alonso and Hamilton.
Only difference in the race was Stroll getting screwed by the safety car. His engineer insisted on the early pit stop, which meant he couldn't take advantage of the SC when it happened shortly after.
When Russel Beats Hamilton (7-7), when Hamilton Beats Russell and ruining three drivers races (8-5)
Pure Comedy
Hamilton also caused George to lose 5 places at the start of the sprint also as he had to take avoiding actions, which he had to do because of Perez in the main race again
They are obviously scared of losing/angering the #TeamLH fans. They're notorious and they just don't want to anger them.
He was 20 seconds behind him in the race thats like eternity in f1 and lewis is never behind that much. Dont make it so obvious yall that yall hate him
Get your own RUclips channel and form your own opinions
I mean Yuki's pace was faster than Russell's this weekend according to the stats with Lews chasing down Red bulls. I think that says enough.
5:59 The only thing that sticks at Sauber right now are wheel guns.
Matt has rights with that score for Logie bear. Thankyou.
For the WHOLE weekend, for the top five teams I’d say:
10/10: Lando (was amazing all weekend)
9/10: Max, Charles & Oscar (All did very well but could’ve achieved more)
8/10: Lewis (did great but was outqualified by George in both quali, and finished behind George in the sprint through his own mistakes but made up for it in the Grand Prix).
7/10: George (outqualified his teammate and did the best he could after being compromised twice at the start by someone else).
6/10: Carlos, Checo and Fernando (because of Sainz’s penalty and inability to pass Daniel and Checo and Alonso being nowhere).
4/10: Lance (for being invisible all weekend apart from colliding into Fernando).
Realistically it's a 9.5 for Lando for the quali bodge job but a10 is fair too.
@@michaeltelfer3483 Tbh, that’s such a small detail I’m willing to overlook that as he won the Grand Prix. And some people seem to think I’m biased against Lando 😂.
george far too high. was slow af in the race and his fastest quali lap was much slower than hams q2 lap. ham just bottled q3 but dosen't mean rus qualified well at all
so Lewis destroeyed 3 Races and gets an 8 but Lance who dominated Alonso every quali and had a terrible strategie pitting lap 12 gets a 4? lol Kmag gets so much hate for his driving but he didnt take out 3 cars al weekend.
@@coreyrod George was slower because he had to work through more traffic as Norris slowed down a lot at the start then Hamilton sent him wide. Then on the SC restart he had worse tyres than Lewis and Yuki. As for Lewis’s Q2 lap, it was a good lap but unrepresentative as it was completely random and out of the blue.
Suggestion for the future, add a rating for the overall race? How enjoyable it was to watch, how many overtakes, etc
Ocon deserves a 10
The listeners are on point with their ratings. Y'all handing out 9s and 10s like candy today. They gotta mean something!
Checo did in the main race what LH did in the sprint ..... just got luckier.
I feel like you shouldn't get a point for "Biggest flop" if you still rate Max at a 9/10...
The title is "biggest flop". Not "any flop"
Tommy giving Oscar a 10, love it
The only reason k mag was near Sargent was that he pitted under the VSC and Sargent didn't. Verstappen's mistake was a small yet significant one
Honestly. With Albons massive lockup at the end of the race, Logan would have 100% beat Alex in both races. Had it not been for Kmag
'Tis Truth!
"When all those top drivers finished"
Carlos sent Oscar into the shadow realm 💀
Carlos was probably a bit heated after being run wide.
@@thegroundhurts 100%. But he still lost control of his car!
@@thegroundhurts Oh 100% him giving attitude and telling Ferrari to tell McLaren to give the place back or theyll get a penalty (as if its some sort of blackmail) was just reslly strange to watch. Love Carlos but his attitude this weekend stunk.
Trying to say that he would have won if they stayed out for the safety car, even tho they HAD to pit bcs Lando was catching him anywhere from 0.3-0.8 seconds a lap and was only 1.8 behind at the time. Like he didn't have the self awareness that from lap 14 until the end of the tace Lando was the fastest man on track regardless of his tyres...
tell im too gev da place back tel em rikki tel em
@@bill4665 Nobody on this race could execute a (clean) overtake even being faster. Norris could not overtake Perez, Leclerc could not overtake Piastri, Hamilton could not overtake Perez and Sainz could not (cleanly) overtake Piastri at the end as well. Why would you think that Lando could have overtaken Sainz (or anybody else) at the end? (Btw. Sainz is generally a very difficult driver to be overtaken, check his records.) So I literally believe if Sainz waits a lap with pitting, he could have won the race.
Highly disagree with Lance's rating
He took the exact same line in the race as the sprint and miraculously he doesnt crash when there isnt a Mercedes launching it down the inside
Seriously you can even see Lance leaving room on the apex in the sprint which Alonso could've easily gone into if Hamilton wasn't being a kamikaze
He went for an aggressive undercut strategy which got messed up by the VSC (which is the only reason Alonso got ahead) and then he pitted again under SC to try and salvage something. Lance pulled off many overtakes this race especially when Aston were one of the worst in the low speed
His penalty was also compeltely bullshit as he was perfectly alongside the entire time and Albon just opened the steering
I'm glad at least one thing I was optimistic about for this season is going well with hulkenburg
How on Earth did Gasly get such a low rating. He got ninth in the sprint. (the highest any alpine has finished this season) He also gained 3 places on Ocon after starting side by side with him before his team pitted early throwing his chance of finishing in the points away and he still managed to finish in 12th. I thought maybe because he didn't get a point he was punished in the rankings, but then Tommy said "Its driver ratings not result ratings" 19:08 which just angered me more.
16:53 WHAT!!!?? 😂😂😂
Gasly getting a 5 and Ocon an 8 is crazy considerinng he was better than Ocon all weekend until Ocon got a gifted stop under VSC
It's always down to the organizers of something if a player can do something that pisses everyone else off with 0 actual consequences.
There’s a point where a race director should step in and hand a driver a black & white flag for unsportsmanlike driving which leads to a black if they do it again. Kmag was hard but fair for about 8 laps then he wasn’t and was just allowed to continue deliberately cutting corners and blocking dangerously. Agree with you completely, race direction has just been terrible since Massi left - just too timid in general. Yes Massi is no Charlie, but the standard now is just atrocious. They’re so unable to make a call now it’s going to get a marshall or driver seriously injured. Whether it’s this or when Bottas was climbing out of his car & then 10 marshalls on track trying to push it without the full SC being called they just have no willingness to make a call in real time when it matters.
These ratings don’t seem to make a lot of sense unfortunately
I know it's very easy at the moment to join the Lance slander but in my opinion he had better pace than Alonso this weekend. It's rare that he outqualifies his team mate and should be commended. Alonso only got lucky with the safety car timing. I think Lance was not at fault at all in the sprint incident as he left space for Lando on the outside and left a lot of space for Alonso on the inside. At some point he just has to turn in. He already waited forever to do so. It was mostly Hamilton but also Fernando to take too much speed into the corner.
Lando was a beast but honestly Oscar is my pick to get the top driver of the week because he was better than lando over the weekend.
Magnussen was at least 50% along side Sargent before the apex of the corner. Sargent turned in completely neglecting that Kmag would’ve had a way better run out of turn one. Trying to shut the door when a car next to you is considerably further alongside than just front axel to rear axel isn’t a good idea. Tommof1 describes it well. 1:11
I will go out and defend Daniel's qualifying by pointing out that his tyres were just not working at all in his final, crucial Q1 lap. Before that he was on par with Tsunoda. Drivers complained about the softs being wildly unpredictable all weekend and Daniel just happened to feel that right at the worst possible time, when he needed to set his second Q1 lap.
And then just like with Zhou, once you get stuck in the rear DRS train, it's incredibly hard to get out of it. That said, I do think an 8/10 is about right for his weekend as a whole.
Also Horner said there was damage but Max himself said the car felt no different and he was doing the same laptimes so any damage couldn't have been that serious and it sounds more like Horner being Horner.
In roller derby there is a teammate called a blocker and now in F1 we have Kevin Magnussen. He deserves 10 points for the work he did in both the sprint and race. One good thing with Magnussen is he helped Lando earn win number ONE by wrecking Logan Sargent.
overtake of the day goes to lewis two beautiful overtakes on yuki and piastri
Ocon managing to get through several corners without taking his teammate off is a miracle and deserves a high grade for that.
HAM an 8 after torpedo into sprint T1 and speeding in pitlane? Fans paid better attention.
They hate him either way
Sprint weekend should be rated out of 20
Piastri was unluckiest driver of the day and in reality did just as well as Landon but without the result. Excited for coming races.
Tbh I think kmag should get some points since he did exactly what his team asked of him and it worked (in the sprint at least). I would give him a 7 for helping hulk get points, but lower it down to a 5 for yeeting Logan for no reason in the race.
Magnussen would've gotten 1 point in the sprint aswell as he was running P8 right behind hulkenberg
@@n0tdanish521 yeah but he said that hulk cut a chicane and left him without drs allowing Hamilton to catch up, so it wasn't exactly his fault
@@moonflower1759 yeah exactly, if hulkenberg wouldnt have cut the chicane than Hamilton wouldnt have a shot at Magnussen as that merc was slow af on the straights
Its weird to me that people keep saying Lando was very fortunate with the sc...
Like, you guys do realise that Lando was the fastest man on track at the time, despite having 27 lap-old Mediums conpared to other drivers fresh hards. Like, he was quickest despite his significant tyre disadvantage. He was the only driver who could lap that pace on tyres that old, hence why he was out there. Safety car was fortunate but at the end of the day he was the only one who was quick enough for long enough to benefit from it. He got himself into that position...
EXACTLY
@@Redlingstein what is wrong with you? Did you even watch the race? Lando was quickest BEFORE the safety car and Max's damage.
@@Redlingstein Ok, but tell me this.
Bro McLaren was slow in Quali yes, but thats completely irrelevant to McLaren's pace in the race. Stop being so delusional. Lando was the quickest man on track from lap 14 to the final lap. He was setting fastest laps of the race on 27 old lap tyres while people on fresh tyres were lapping slower than him. Lando's pace was unmatched on Sunday.
Doesnt matter if you fail on Saturday, if Lando was just "lucky" then why was he even in the lead? Bcs for it to be just luck, it would mean others could have done what Lando did, but they couldnt. They didnt have the pace or consistency to do what Lando did. So they didnt. Lando's amazing driving is the only reason he got the chance to lead the race. And guess what? He gapped Max by nearly 8 seconds. Lando was the best driver this weekend. First man to beat Max and Red Bull while they were genuinely contending for a win on pure merit...
You clearly are just a hater and/or dont know much about F1...
@@TheBigHaj Dw about him bro he either just despises Lando, didnt watch the race or just doesnt understand the sport...
Tommy is right Oscar most definitely deserved a 10
this has been a fairly shocking set of ratings. i dont get how you can say that its based off the drive not the result and then for the next driver say it has to be a 10 because of the result. put your bias aside
K-Mag did his best ex-teammate Grosjean impression this weekend
I think Oscar did really well, certainly his best weekend of the year so far, but his pace on the hard tyres after the restart wasn't good. It was a similar situation in Hungary last year where compound to compound he can have quite severe pace drop-off. Hopefully come Imola he can continue to improve in this area.
He will, because he will have all the upgrades that Norris had on his car, and Norris's car didn't have any problems getting the hards working.
I'm here to critique your Zhou analysis again.
- He cut the chicane but was smart enough to allow Magnusson to keep his place and then overtake him at the straight.
- His qualifying was bad because he didn't get his final push lap as Stake left him in the pits for too long.
- He was on the same strategy as Norris and Alonso by going long with the mediums but Stake were not prepared enough to pit him during rhe VSC like what Aston did with Alonso (Zhou was matching and was only 2 seconds behind Alonso).
- The safety car came out but Stake decided to put softs on for Zhou (with 29 laps remaining). Which was clearly the worst tyre to use at Miami. Even so, Zhou managed to only lose 2 places (to Hulk and to Piastri) by the end of the Grand Prix.
A solid weekend where he also finished 11th at the sprints.
Unfortunately, because people don't actually follow the races driver to driver, it often gives Zhou a bad rep as he doesn't get enough TV coverage. You guys need to read the team press releases before making these drivers rating videos.
The fact they gave worse performers a 5 also and had no real critiques for him (spent more time talking about Bottas during his segment) shows so clearly their bias and ignorance
Personally felt like Zhou is attracted to bad lucks. As someone on Reddit said, Zhou is probably the only driver on the grid which almost every race result for him requires one or more footnote :/
@@Davidc-om3mcYeah, I think he deserves a shot at one more team before we decide if he gets the boot or not out of F1. Bottas has had his career already but I think even he wants out of Sauber given that they changed his race engineer without consulting him. The most dysfunctional team on the grid for sure.
5, being the median, is just right
he did nothing remarkable nor he did anything worth criticizing
He is just a boring driver. (of course a great reason for that is they drive a really boring car)
@@gelmir7322 But we are not here to review how entertaining a driver is though. Zhou doesn't get TV coverage as he doesn't make silly errors or crashes and because his battles are often for P13/P15 etc, they're hardly ever shown. This applies to the other back marker drivers too, btw.
*Hamilton torpedoes the entire field*
"Stroll should be more aware"
0:23 “And this is about how he drove…And he drove” that’s all you needed to say for k mag
KMag is the only reason anyone has anything to discuss
Maybe that guy Lando also gave us a talking point or two as well.
Didn't Oscar still not have all the upgrades?
Oui!
I believe it was the best race this season so far, not only for Lando's win but for everything that happened the whole weekend.
I am very happy with how teams are improving cars significantly MacLaren first of all, Vcarb Minardi, Alpine, and Haas is holding there fighting for points, cause I feel we will see great fights both at front and in the middle of the pack for points and even lower.
I believe the 20 drivers we have on the grid are one of the most talented pack of all times, even Logan shows improvements and that he can be in the pace and race well and feel for him cause he didn't deserve that DNF, I feel sorry also for Oscar and K Mag because Oscar was just great all weekend as Tommy said with a half old car and extremely unlucky with Sainz there (where I think he has to be blamed for taking the MCL's wing with him) and K Mag because is having those last year's Checo vibes and acts with rush and despair when we all know that he is a good fast and not giving up driver, I hope he will find his good self in the next races cause this year their car is much better and he could be in the points mix too.
Cheers from Greece! Keep Up! Jim
Very well spotted @djdoo !
It sure is nice of K-Mag to keep that bar low for Ollie next year
Leclerc had no water for the whole race he should get an 11 for being so fast in the Miami heat!
Do I have the drink?
No Kimi! No drink!
He did Not have the drink
19:05
Tommy.
Lando got the better start and was ahead exiting turn 1. But got held up by Checo rejoining the track quite carelessly infront of him.
Lando's pace on the mediums overall was WAY better. He was showing no signs of tyre deg and could've continued being the fastest man on track for another 5-6 laps easily. Oscar got a great start, but was far slower than Lando by the end of the mediums stint and Lando made the tyres last significantly longer. He also was WAY quicker than Oscar on Hard tyres.
And finally, beating Lando in the sprint isnt very difficult, when Lando's been sent to the shadow realm my LH and Daddy's Cash at Turn 1.
Oscar had a great drive and deserves a 9. But regardless he couldnt make thise tyres do what Lando was able to do. Which was lap fastest for the longest.
I agree, however the critical factor here is that Oscar had 50% of the upgrades lando had, which cost him 0.2s of pace. As such, Lando is expected to finish ahead of Oscar regardless. That's what makes Oscar's performance so impressive, is that he performed so well with an inferior car. Not to diminish Lando's performance at all because he drove brilliantly, but he did qualify lower in the sprint which left him susceptible to the incident that took him out.
So are you just going ti ignor the fact that Lando had all the upgrades and Oscar didn't??
@@72Kraken Bro I'm not saying Oscar drove badly. But look at the pace deficit. Oscar had all 5 of the major upgrades quite clearly bcs he wasnt losing a lot of time to Max and such, he just didnt have 5 that Lando did.
Regardless, the pace deficit was large from Lap 14 until the safety car. And then on the hard tyres the pace deficit was HUGE.
Oscar drove a great race and was definetly on for a podium, but its not as if he was still driving the B-Spec car they rocked upto Bahrain with...
@@MrDonutSprinkles I agree, Lando should be ahead of Oscar. But at the end of the day, a 10 is the perfect race. Which Lando had. Oscar's pace on the hards was massively off Lando's which is why I feel as though I can't give him a 10. Even compared to Sainz, Verstappen and Leclerc his pace looked slower than it was on the mediums, whereas Lando, if anything, got quicker.
We'll be able to better judge how much time those 5 upgrades gave Lando in Imola.
@@bill4665 How is that a perfect race lol? Yes, he drove well. Very well actually. But perfect? He didn't even make a single pass on Sunday. Couldn't get around Perez until he went into the pits. He then almost f-ed up the restart. If it weren't for the SC I doubt he makes it onto the podium, and that is despite his great pace. There's just no way he's making it through Perez, Sainz, Piastri, Leclerc and Max, all stuck in a DRS train. So yeah, great race but not perfect. He really shined only once he got clean air to put up a lap time after lap time, but he got into that position purely through external circumstance. Not by his own doing.
22:44 my shock faced 😲 when Tommy said that. lol I was workin on my assignment & screamed 😅🤣
I couldn't agree more Tomny, your explanation of Oscar's drive was spot on!
Further more, a strong team environment is key to team greatness/continued success. I could provide many examples of this over the past 30+ years of racing, equality between drivers is a key area to this point. Why does LN have to receive upgrades ahead of OP? Forget loyalty, OP has also proven that as best he can by also signing on. Why can't it be OP followed by LN this year re upgrades? Your are sending a clear message to OP that he is seen as second best in that team. I think that will back fire if you don't address it! Teams flagging a driver as their #1 will only atract mediocrity. After all, F1 drivers are the best in the business, they don't want to be shown/labeled as 2nd best.
If the safety car didn't happen, I honestly think the team would of told Oscar to let Lando through simply based on him qualifying one position better. This happened this year as well as last year. However, I haven't seen the reverse!!!
Again, great call Tommy👍
PS: I commend LN holding off MV for the win too.
How is everyone blaming Magnussen for the collision with Logan is beyond me. His first wing was almost at the first wheels of Logan. How the hell did Magnussen get a penalty for that. It’s just so fckd up. 😂
Bruhhhhh you give Yuki 10/10 and dont blame him for the sprint yet give Danny 8/10 because he got a penalty within a very close qualifying yet still finished 5 places above starting?
Sprint is just a sideshow
Actual race is the main event.
Yuki is 9 or 10 because his momentum during the weekend is on the improvement
Dani started great but had an disappointing and abysmal performance when it matters, it demonstrate inconsistency and unresolve issues for VCARB to deal with.
RIGHT - and giving Danny the same as Hulk when he was 4th in sprint holding off Ferrari and McLaren
@@gelmir7322 What I am saying is that if you are going to be critical of Danny for not getting out of Q1 you should do the same for Yuki not getting out of Q1 of the show down. Yes sprint races are side shows, but for these lower half teams points are points. Like Oscar didn't score points in the race because of him fighting in the main race but he was given a 10/10 because he showed gusto? Just seems inconsistent.
@@gelmir7322 In the end, Danny qualified 18, started 20th and got to 15th which is a five place improvement and started 4th in the sprint and finished 4th. I do not recall Yuki's Sprint quali but I believe it was 16th and finished 7th and started 10th and got to 7th for the race. Both racers showed vast improvement in their races, Yuki showed he can work his way up the track in a GP that is really hard to overtake and Danny showed he can play strategic and hold off drivers in faster cars when it counts. In the end, Yuki got 6 points to Danny's 5, so it is not like Yuki did THAT much better in the point department.
It's immensely more impressive to overtake a top 5 team than to hold then off for a while. Plus, the main race is much more important and harder than sprint.
About Ocon and Gasly: “One of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever seen” hahahahaha
IS IT TIME TO CLOSE PIT LANE UNDER THE SAFTY CAR again ?
The pit lane was closed immediately upon the deployment of the safety car. No car could enter the pits until all cars on the track had formed up in a line behind the safety car, they passed the pit entrance, and the message "pit lane open" was given.
If HAM would be treated equally, the MAG-HAM fight would not even have happened. Weren't Hulk and Gro given race bans for the same offense into a right righthander T1? It's about the offense, not the outcome. But the stewards argue it's all good becuase ALO evaded KMag and HAM and touched STR before HAM took them all out. HAM turned zero DNF's into two, and AS USUAL, his own car was fine. This happens oddly often. And he is penalalized oddly rarely for things other can't get away with.
HOW DO I PARTICIPATE IN THE FAN VOTE SIR PLEASE TELL ME
I'd like to know also please
they post it on the community tab
Did you guys even see the double kick pass on Riccardo in the same corner? It was better than a 5.
You guys need to do an intro in each other's environment 😁
8 is far too generous for Hamilton. Out qualified by his teammate for sprint and main race. Took out 3 cars at turn 1 and sped in pit lane. Got the advantage at turn 1 of the main due to being on the inside and had an ok/solid race. Sounds very 5 out of 10 at best
Fans giving Hamilton just 7 is wild? Is that because they place a large chunk of the value on the sprint race?
Tha Merc is a goddamn tractor. He was stuck to Perezs rear wing for 25 laps. Thats an 8. Miami is very difficult to pass. Plus the telemetry suggests Lewis was faster than perez over a whole lap. Think your hatred is showing
@@nissan300ztt sorry I think you misunderstood me, I'm saying a rating of 7 by the fans is too low! should of been an 8
@@MuadhRazaque ah. Got ya.
I mean depends honestly on the drivers performance in the sprint. The sprint is only taken into serious consideration if a driver does bad or good, but if you do ok then your fine.
That’s what I am gathering from watching Matt and Tommy rate drivers with a sprint race
I mean look a Daniel Ricciardo. Disappointing GP but an incredible sprint means that sprint was worth more than the race for his rating
Guy on the left seems grumpy today, get yourself down the beach for a few hours, a quick dunk in the sea and you'll be back on fresh tires
12:55 did Tommy change his name to Matt?
Ocon getting a higher grade than Hulk making BOTH Q3 is wild to me
No points scored in quali, but I agree he should also be a 9
Tommy needs to chill a little on the tsunoda hype train i mean he did good but 10 is over the top imo
"To beat the Mercedes" gets a 10. The bias shines brightly.
10 should = perfect weekend. Or at least, a GP podium in a shit car if you didn't do so well.
I don't get the Yuki hype. Has he been consistently strong lately? Absolutely, but P7 is still P7.
P7 thanks to the safety car too. P8 thanks to the pile up in front of him.
It is not easy of that shit car
@@nick4830Then does Lando not deserve a 10?
bruh, logan fucked himself... if he looked in his mirror, he would've seen a nose next to him, yet he went to the apex like he was alone on the track
So glad you uploaded now, so bored 😂 🙏