iPhone vs ARRI Alexa
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- Опубликовано: 20 апр 2020
- Alexa cameras are designed for use in high budget feature films, television shows, and commercials.
The ARRI ALEXA’s CMOS Super-35mm sensor is rated at 2.8K and ISO 800. That sensitivity allows the camera to see a full seven stops of over exposure and another seven stops of underexposure. To take advantage of this, ARRI offers both industry-standard REC709 HD video output as well as the Log-C mode that shows the entire range of the chip’s sensitivity, allowing for an extreme range of color correction options in post.
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The HDR from the iPhone 11 Pro is recognizable from miles away
Carlos Jaquez looks fake sometimes
@@raildude270 youre not the market of this phone😂
@@raildude270 hdr is fake.
My thoughts were "this has low dynamic range, which is why the clouds are so black and the contrast is striking".
The sky looks like Teletubbies
I thought Arri was overhyped for the longest time... until I shot on one. The colors and dynamic range are just incredible. Truly impressive.
It's all in the marketing to DP's
I'm sure I'm not the only one who's jaw dropped when they saw the image at 3:16
you're not alone mate!
I can get the same look with a nice prime and my pocket 4K - and this is from a (ex)Red/Arri owner
Exactly!!
I thought you were a little slow my first time watching a video of yours. Since then I've watched every video on your channel. I love your communication style and content. Cheers!
Try to color grade and you will see the big difference of the Alexa compared to every mid and hi range camera on the market! No lut can resolve this.
The Poket 4k/6K 12 bit consumer sensor can't compete with the Alexa CMOS 16 bit dual gain architecture sensor.
I thought Arri also did 12bit log. Nikon, Panasonic, fs Sonys, singma fp...these are 12 bit linear and different from 12 bit log taken from 16bit profile. No highlight recovery, not enough bit depth to assign code values, losing info as you get closer to black the higher the dynamic range in the camera ect.
Good point about equipment. I recently started out full time as a film maker. Before that I made RUclips videos. Starting out I bought some decent equipment - I know for a fact that the camera will never hold me back, so now the rest is up to me. However, if I was filming on an iphone I would always wonder if I could have done better with better gear.
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to share.
There's something divine about Arri's Color Science. Straight up withcraft.
1:00 I found the motion of the waves from footage A and B very disturbing. Maybe that comes from the youtube convertion. Any suggestions?
When you say “I don’t know what it is about the look”, it’s true, Arri has a look. I shoot on a RED but that Arri color science is 😍
I wouldn’t say arri has a color science there colors are based off of film. That’s why out of the box the arri has a filmic look. The red camera actually is based on color science which is why it’s used by nasa and as a tool because of the accuracy of its color spectrum. Arri is the opposite they are not going for color science they are going for a emulation of film
Hello sir! Thanx 4 vdeo. I’m producing videos only for you tube. But I like shot in s-log in sunny day for having blue sky and information in shadows without noise. I have a Sony a7c and 8 bit is quiet problematic in these scenarios actually. If I’ll buy Sony a7sIII with 10 bit is it will helps me to avoid noise in shadows in Slog?
Yes 10 bit will make a big difference
Love your videos, dont ever stop making them.
Keep up the great work bro - luv your videos
Great video! I just bought a used arri as well. Came from a red and I have to say those skin tones. 😍😍😍 Arri certainly made a helluva sensor on those cameras.
Great video! Is there an affordable way for a gimbal/stabilizer for Alexa Classic?
B is iphone, I'm quite sure (dynamic range and local contrast or how contrast is in general)
Omg the end "But um- I would pass if I were you" 😂
9:54 wait let me get that shot real quick
Do you have a top handle for the camera you'd recommend? Appreciate any guidance
The end totally made me laugh. TY
Man, the style of your videos is awesome. It's like never ending performance. I love it.
definitely one of my favorite channels now. many thanks man, greetings from Mati City Philippines :)
I had an Ursa Mini Pro G2 and sold it for the Alexa Classic like yours. I shoot ARRIRAW 2.8K with an Odyssey 7Q+. You can edit ARRIRAW inside Davinci Resolve. The G2 is nice, but just doesn't have that magic and gorgeous thick and smooth skin tones like Alexa. The Alexa is very forgiving on bad skin. The Pocket 4K is an amazing little beast though, I prefer it and the Pocket 6K to the G2. The truth is, that us filmmakers care amore about the cameras and gear than clients or the audience do. Lighting, talent, production design, and story are more important than the camera, or lenses. Great video. Thanks.
I’m interested in shooting raw with the 7Q...I’ve only shot 444
Thank you so much for this review😃. I appreciate the quickly added comment at the end "I would pass, if I were you".
Thanks for sharing and I was surprised you bought that ARRI Alexa...
Hey man what tripod are you using?
Good Video...Stay on the right side of the law :) Also, in the last side by side comparison, when you compared the three cameras, I liked the vivid colors of the iPhone 11, but I liked the blurred background of the ARRI as well.
Man I love your videos.
When that sweet Alexa DR goodness drops....WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
I was NOT expecting that ending. ¡Hahahahahaha!
Alexa still looking the best, it stands out and off the shoulder style is my favorite. Compact camera's are great to have but I'll still take the heavy shoulder camera every day of the week.
no way he‘s riding the same cruiser as i do at 3:43 😂
It would have been nice to see the Pocket 4k in focus
Dude, I really enjoy watching your videos! You definitely should have a milion + subscribers, so I'm a bit confused as to why that's not the case.
I'm sure the channel is going to explode soon though, in terms of viewers / subs. It just has to, given the fantastic quality and entertainment value. ^^
Side note: It felt like I got ~5% less volume from the right channel on my headphones while watching this video. I played some other videos just to check, and they work fine. So the "issue" seems to only be apparent on this particular video.
Thought you might wanna know, in case the problem lies within the video file itself. :)
Thanks
What easyrig are you using?
4:34 I like how he leans BACKWARDS.
ARRI offers a range of different camera models, providing the perfect solution for any production type or shot requirement. All of the cameras share ARRI’s unique combination of the highest image quality with the most efficient workflows on set and in post, which sets a gold standard for the industry. The Best Cameras for the Best Images !
The Alexa's colors are insane.
I would like to see a comparison between alexa and arriflex 435 if possible or any film motion picture camera..
I want to do that video so bad!!!!
@@EpicLightMedia that's great I'll be waiting for it..🤞
Remarkable work !
I’d get the XT, or the 4:3 so you can slap them anamorphic lenses on it.
Which Arri is this?
When I shot on my BMPCC4K and the external SSD was almost full, the camera also turned on for more than a minute. It’s good that they fixed it with the new firmware )
After seeing that comparison, yes it is worth it. Thanks for the vid.
Ha, I'm gonna say A, A, and A for the Alexa. Still really proves the point you make at the end, though. Really great video, as usual. I shoot primarily with an Ursa Mini 4.6k, and sometimes we use a Sony a7iii as a B-cam, because I like how the dynamic range matches up. Blackmagic cameras have better color science I think, so I just color match the Sony footage to the Ursa in post. It hardly pushes the limit of the a7iii's 8-bit codec. No, it's not as ideal as just using a bunch of matched-spec Cinema cameras with a huge crew, but hey wouldn't we all? So many cameras are just ridiculously good these days.
In 2015 I was shooting on a Canon t2i thinking the camera was holding me back. OH HOW I LAUGH. I was holding that thing back with bad lighting and a general lack of knowing what I was doing, even though I thought I was pretty film savvy by then. On that note, have you seen the Canon EOS M with Magic Lantern? People are getting continuous RAW shooting in full HD or higher on that little thing. The body sells used for like $130, and fast EF-M prime lenses by Canon and Meike are also dirt cheap. I might get one just to have beastly shooting specs that I can carry around wherever I go. We're rapidly losing excuses to not shoot stellar videos.
Looked at shot compares between the new Z Cam 6k (5 grand) and a RED (80 grand)...and they were soooooo close...close enough for the average audience member -- NOT THE INDUSTRY DPS and camera crews -- NOT to know the difference by watching...let alone care. As an Indie filmer working on my own...I'm going with 3 of the Z Cam6ks just out....and great old lenses I've researched....for a 3 camera feature indie. wish me luck.
I can't fully agree. I used t2i you mentioned years ago, Fuji xt-3, EOS M with ML on it and BMPCC 4k. And in my opinion Pocket 4k eats all of those alive. The t2i has crappy low bitrate codec, tons of aliasing. EOS M with ML has terrible dynamic range, clips very abruptly, the noise floor is extremely high, making iso 100 barely usable. Other than that, I admit the color science is really nice on EOS M.
@@testowykana1763 I don’t think you’re actually disagreeing with me at all, there. I’m not saying the T2i holds up to Blackmagic cameras, I’m just saying my amateur self mistakenly believed the T2i was what was preventing my videos from looking better. In reality, the videos could have looked a lot better still if Id actually known what I was doing. A lot of things I blamed the camera for were really coming from poor lighting and exposure, as well as bad color grading and post correction. It was just a mess. It almost wouldn’t have mattered if Id shot on an Alexa, the nicer technical image quality would not fix the glaringly amatuer shooting and post processing that was creating the look I didn’t like. Ive occasionally used that camera since then and I get hilariously improved results with it.
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and yeah, with the iPhone's compression, Dynamic Range, and colour science, was there ever any contest?
iPhone looks fine, tho
with filmic pro app and ND filter on iphone 11 it is awesome
I thought the iPhone looked horrible. However, I'm sure he was using default settings and one could probably configure it to look a little more cinematic than the HDR mess I noticed.
Put the Filmic app on your iPhone.
Even though the Alexa is old and (out of date) according to digital technology, the image is crystal clear and beautiful colour science, would work with it any day of the week over a newer black magic or red
came for the 12k BMD camera but stayed for the content
I feel like I rewatch this video every 6 months lol.
That’s where all my views are coming from!!!
Excellent video! Cam 1 is the arri btw
Two videos in one day? We're not worthy! 😂 Also side-by-side, I can't stand the way the iPhone looks. But that Arri... ohhhhhhhhhh...sooooo buttery smooth 🤣
the moiré and the janky ass artificial sharpness in some of the details are a dead giveaway that B was the iphone.
gotta say tho, i was looking for giant differences in dynamic range as an indicator but that wasn't as easy as i thought.
The Arri color is so so great. It’s look filmic right away
Love your watch! ;)
Loved the end
Great video! Is it just me or is the general quality of youtube getting worse lately? They mentioned this, I guess it was 4 weeks ago that they will have quality issues. RUclips does not look as crispy as usual, right? Or my vision is just...getting worse^^
I can't tell what this video is. Is it a comparison between the iphone and the alexa, or a lesson on how to use the alexa, or a history lesson of digital cameras, or reasons to buy the BMPCC!?
Right agreed. This guy needs to pick a lane.
@@EpicLightMedia Maybe Potato Jet could help you to sort it out.
Apparently you can make the bmpcc4k look like the Alexa by changing the color space in davinci resolve to arri log c and then applying the arri to rec709 lut. There are several tutorials about this.
Let me know what you think if you try it. :)
Thanks for the tip I’ll have to try it
@@EpicLightMedia Tried it, doesn't work. It has some resemblance, but it doesn't match the look. And for this reason I just bought an Alexa classic. Love your videos, you're funny as hell.
That’s just something Bmpcc4k owners say to make themselves feel like one of the big boys. :-P
@@KaceyBakerFilms lol
@@BaskenmannZwei it’s pretty similar actually, use the highlight retention feature and shoot with a BPM on. You’d have to look pretty hard to tell a difference
What is thw mattebox you used on your Arri? Thanks
It's from Wooden camera
@@EpicLightMedia Thanks bro!
Man this guy is good. Came for the cameras, clicked subscribe for the guy.
The iPhone shot at 9:34 looks amazing.
August Arnold and Robert Richter founded ARRI , AR-RI comes from arnold and richter. With that in mind, you'd think people would pronounce it "R-E". However, for whatever reason, the Germans and Brits pronounce it "Air-y". When in doubt, do as Deakins does.
The screen door effect of the iPhone really made it obvious :(
Great videos !!!!!
Boy this video makes BMPCC4k look B A D. Since the odyssey 7q recorder is discontinued, how can you upscale to 4k/arriraw?
If not the image, the CiNeMaTiC green hue is a dead giveaway
do we pass the same way we don't subscribe? 🤔 jk - keep doing you thing man! love it
Arri has to be A! I think the detail is much more natural on the arri, much more digital on the iPhone. Also dynamic range looks more natural on the Arri and less like artificiall HDR.
WOW it looks so nice! Damn that alexa still looks AMAZINGGG!
Hello Epic Light Media ! Please, could you tell me what's the name of the music between 00:12 and 1:49 ? I love it, but can't find it anywhere... (Shazam doesn't recognize it)
I’ll look it up and tell you... once I get to the office tomorrow and I can check.
@@EpicLightMedia It would be great, thank you !
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@@EpicLightMedia Thank you very much ! I discovered your channel few days ago and I binge-watched all the videos : awesome content !
Are you in Phoenix? It looks like it?
Yes
Epic Light Media no way me too! Maybe since I am the new content creator at my work (non profit Christian Family Care) we can meet with you or just do a zoom call now to help us decide on what to get for our small 4k budget? I am looking for any help we can get. Maybe we can pick your brain on what the best work flow will be since we are starting to soon.
I’m in Phoenix area also. Love your content. Good to see film makers and RUclipsrs here. Place has been growing like mad.
Yes email us at info@epiclightmedia.com and let’s connect
gen x tech guy yes we moved 5 years ago and it’s awesome! I have done RUclips for about 10 years now. I will see your channel!
to be honest at 1080 the alexa is superior to most 4k and even 6k cams you can get
So, are you going to sell the Arri?
Yes soon
Where is the resolution?
My guess is A is Arri
always love me some epic light media
Imagine an A-list actor standing on a set with a bunch of people pointing iPhones at her/him and not knowing which person is HMU, scripty, DP, or just someone posting on their Instagram feed. Really looking forward to seeing the Zeiss & Cooke lens options for the iPhone.
And don’t forget to put it in airplane mode, so your mom doesn’t call you in the middle of a shot.
This is like comparing an F1 vs Honda Civic both at 10mph
B - That Iphone skin softer I can from the Moon
holdup where do you GET AN ARRI ALEXA FOR 10000$?
You can actually find one cheap than that. It’s the Alexa classic and I bought it from Arri
Been waiting for a new output for AGES! What took you so long guys?
So so sorry!!!!! We promise we will upload more often... haha
@@EpicLightMedia If you are missing content - just invite us over when RA-cona is done. We got them high-speed drones with fancy cams on them ;)
The low light of ARRI is why you buy ARRI. Holy crap it destroys everyone else. haha
What Arri Alexa is that please?
Just Arri Alexa EV Classic 16:9
@@EpicLightMedia Thanks for the response
The iPhone is pretty much unusable in my opinion, and it's just because of that horrible over sharpening they don't let us turn off. I wonder if adding a promist filter to the iPhone could fix that? Interesting video
The big difference will come in when you try and grade. No contest.
Arri Alexa vs all other = digital film vs video
You admire alexa colours , but on all footages you show as exemples colour grading sucks hard. They looks like the were shot on huawei smartphone. Acid green grass etc.
pocket 4k ia a beast camera
with speed booster it's wider than arri
“A”looks completely natural in the sky where as “B” looks a little colour grading and High dynamic range is very good in B so iPhone intends to have good dynamic range so I’ll go with B iPhone 11 Pro and Arri alexa
Question: is using the alexa like going to the gym?
Apparently... especially if you are soft like me.
The grading capability is very different!
good job filming at t stop 200
Literally
its a very big lie that iphone 11 is only manual
with filmic pro app ( manual camera app) on iphone 11 and also ND filter you will see magic
Hmmm... Not sure its a "fair" comparison to put ND filters on the Arri and not the other two cameras (you can get them for iPhone). Also, iPhone shooters mostly use the Filmic Pro app (not the native app), which gives you much of the "control" you say only Arri has. And lastly, I don't think these camera comparisons EVER really mean anything at all because viewers only see the footage they are shown. Point is - if you shoot good footage on an iPhone (or an Arri or ...) it will look good to the viewer and they don't care what camera is used. They really dont.
The challenge would be harder if you reduced the sharpness on the iPhone and switch off or dial back the HDR mode ;)
Right that’s true.
I owned a black magic ursa g1 and used it as my main camera for years. Swore by it and would even pass opportunities to rent arri minis to use black magic instead. Then it got the black screen of death (common dirty secret of ursas) and is now an expensive paperweight that black magic doesn't service anymore since it's cheaper to buy a new one. Lost faith in the brand after years of loyalty. Bought an arri classic for $2500 and had to spend an additional $1k in accessories to get it shooting. Pulled up my first test shots on my computer and realized immediately - It's better. Anybody who says black magics are just as good or better sometimes are coping. The now 14 year old arri classic blows any black magic image out of the water. I don't know quite what it is, I've compared many shots up close and side by side. It's overall a more pleasant image. Something about black magic is harsh and no matter how much I practice grading it or even pay other colorists it never had that edge that the arri sensor provides. I get it now.
Why did u say " I would pass if I were you"?? I mean, the Arri is supposed the dream camera, right? And you bought it. I don't understand.
It’s super heavy and it doesn’t have the features that cheaper cameras have these days. I regret buying it
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Thanks!!!!!!! It’s the best
the one without crazy moire :)
I can always spot an arri. Theres a kind of greenish to the mids and shadows. Also the iphone just crushes all the details. Plus the iphone is super sharpened and has the extra resolution. The "softness" and dynamic range really give it away.