COMBINED XI: Man United Treble 98/99 vs Man City 22/23
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What I love about buvey is he is able to have her reasonable takes but chooses to say ridiculous things to generate engagement
has been this way since the kick off, that's why i love him - he is sacrificing his rep (sometimes) to help the show (and to wind them up ofc too)
I agree.. sometimes his reasonable, balanced views creep through but most of the time he airs on the side of entertainment! lol
Buvey has always had good ball knowledge. People mistake his jokes for legit takes and think he’s an idiot
Buvey is such a wind up and i love it.
u nailed it
💯
I mean, that's his fault. I only ever see clips of him and he acts like an idiot. Clear from this video it's an act.
This was far more balanced and measured than I thought it would be
Disappointingly balanced and measured
I was expecting Buvey to do what he does best and get under people skin, trying to unnerve them, too balanced sadly
It’s a pity that when Buvey or someone else decides to be mature, Adam never joins in 💔
@@Adriaantje2008 q
Well done Buvey, I'm genuinely impressed at the maturity.
I doubt it’s maturity I feel more like it’s a thing where he don’t want to be jinxing it as of yet
Maturity = picking by nostalgia?😂
@@Hamzathefirst outed yourself as immature, that or 0 ball knowledge
To say you cant drop Scholes ferguson used to drop him united nostalgia merchants, Schmicle is overrated couldnt dare keep up today edison is amazing bro dont understand what u watch, neville over walker 😂😂 funny. Keane yes then kdb if a 2 all 3 if 3 ? giggs beckham then haaland. and if we are being honest we know who smokes who its a different time
@@Achysx and immature 😂alright they are money bastards, prob not as special as utd but they would humiliate that 99 team lets be real bro
My issue with this segment is history is mixed into this. Gary Neville over his career won 8 Prem's but at the time of the 99 Treble he was at 3. Judging the players of United based on their entire careers but judging City players on their active careers. perfect example was Walker giving him 'minus points' because he hasn't won 8 prem's but he is currently at 5, 2 more than Neville was at the time of the Treble possibility. ??
Yeah they should judge it on that season specifically not entire career
That's always the hard thing when judging these things. Also, if you pick more Man United players than Man City players in this team, then surely Pep has to be the manager of it, considering he may bring a team of "lesser players" to the same achievement.
Good point mate.
Walker is at end of career tbh
@@Mysticzzz911 not wrong but they did it with Keane, Andy Cole, Scholes. Judging them on their career instead of the player they were during the 99 season
Buvey is so much better when he is measured. His last bit on Guardiola is a great argument for why he is (maybe) the best manager
Sorry but no... So Spain's reinvention of the youth development system and Cruyff influence plus the Spainish players produced by Barca academy are credited with Barca's success not Pep, Pep left as soon as austerity hit Spain and the tax loop holes started to go along with players like Messi and Ronaldo who used them, Pep went to Bayern who'd just won the treble, he failed to win the champions league and Klopp was catching him with far less money, then he went to city who were already dominating with augero and Silva and they allegedly Cheated plus Klopp has since caught him and won the champions league with far less resources and without cheating, SAF did everything and he did it legitimately too.
@@Liamm_7 Good points. For the record, I'm not saying I value Pep's contribution over SAF. In fact, I would argue that SAF is the 'better' manager in that he has achieved more success over a longer time period too. What I would say is that I believe Pep's influence in football stretches beyond SAF's. You see clubs in league 2 who try to replicate tactical elements that have been popularised by Pep's teams. International players, managers and clubs now want an entertaining style and some of that credit has to go to Pep for the way that he has set his teams up. Anyway... it's an ineresting debate and I think Buvey's take was pretty interesting and balanced
@@mikewilliams101 for me personally I'd love to say pep over SAF but I am still waiting to see him prove it like Klopp has proven he's potentially better than pep, I'd love to say his influence helped international countries like Germany but that would be undermining Germans youth set ups and because it's more likely city are cheating, his whole time at city is tarnished, I'd like to see him at a spurs or arsenal, like Klopp did at Liverpool just to show he's better than Klopp.
google peps little spanish doctor friend at barca then try argue for why pep is better
@@Liamm_7 such a bizarre thing to say. Pep has won a treble, won the league nearly every year of his managerial career, and people like you still have the audacity to say “I am still waiting for him to prove it like Klopp has”. No idea why people like to pretend Klopp is dealing with scrubs and give him more credit than guardiola for coming in second place most of the time. I swear football attracts the most clueless people.
Buvey is low-key one of the most entertaining
And the most irritating he’s a paradox
He's actually a sociopath... He lies with complete and utter disregard for others.
😂😂
Well there's only 3 of em 😂
@@Liamm_7 that's clearly banter lmaoooo you can tell by the way he smiles while uttering the blasphemy 😂😂😂
Rory didn't even know that Pep won the treble in his first season with Barcelona (that shows how clueless he is outside of EPL football)
All six trophies in his first year which is something that haven’t been accomplished since.
People underrate peps achievements at Barca about how he inherited such a great side but look at their performances when he left and they had the same players.
Guardiola shipped out all the old guys and put his trust in young and academy players who were always there. Why did the previous manager not see the potential and in them to win titles
And he thought David May was Jaap Stam partner.
The hardest thing about this is that you are comparing a team that had its legacy cemented against one that is still growing. Yes we are comparing individual seasons but we all put the players in perspective of their careers when talking about how good they are.
Carra said, and rightfully so, that Giggs had 3 goals and 2 assists that season. Grealish have far more. Based on that specific season, I reckon Grealish gets in.
Judging a player's season with numbers is redicilous. I remember gigs at that time and there was no mention of dropping in form. Look at the goal he scored against arsenal and barcelona. He was as always class. Any numbers from grealish are not going to make up for the difference.I don't think someone should favor grealish just because he has has got an assist against bourmouth or something
This city team beats that united team 9 times out of 10. It’s like they were playing a different game back then, not even football.
Not really a good way to look at it, if you took some of those ‘99 players and put them into the modern game with the training etc they’d still be absolute world beaters
Keep in mind Shaun many of those United players were playing into the early 2010s and late 2000s. They also played against legends such as Messi, Ronaldo, Ramos, etc who have dominated the past 10 years.
It’s 1-1 vs the current united side… Let alone a team full of superstars.
6/4 or 7/3 would be more accurate.
@@maximusorbis2548 yeah exactly they played against peps Barca and they passed them off the park. Literally couldn’t get hold of the ball. Same would happen with this team.
@@Ben.Hubble yeah they beat them at old Trafford after being given a goal to get back into it.
lets not take the piss, Giggs did nothing that season, he's a great player but one good goal against arsenal isn't good enough for this team
Facts if it's just based on "99" them I'd genuinely take grealish over him. Obvs not the better player but if giggs played today he'd get the same hate someone like hazard got when he ghosted a season also
I wish people could actually wait till City win the treble then start to compare lol , Liverpool were on for a quadruple last year and it's all unraveled in just TWO games
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Funny too how this city team are “the best team ever” but Jordan Henderson and naby keita had liverpool 2 points and 1 ucl final away from the best season ever lol
@@guruj8827 you didnt win the season nor the ucl now did you? the team that is in the way of city rn are united and inter. and for a neutral like most of us, they are not a very good wall to stop city from doing anything.(maybe tenhag can pull a miracle)
@@eleonarcrimson858 I didn’t say they won it? city haven’t won it yet either they got 1/3 but the footballing world already has their names engraved in history
@@guruj8827 If you watch them play you'll know they're better than that Liverpool team. Trophies have nothing to do with it
Lol City have been massively disrespected with this combined XI, nostalgia clouding their minds lol
City haven't even won the treble yet.... Relax
Regardless, you'll hear them state Pep always has the best players until you ask them to make a combined XI. Then magically you'll see other players over his. It's all trivial.
Bet you weren't even alive in 99.
@@luke-ti3fu in the words of their idol buvey.... It's embarrassing.... It's embarrassing
@@luke-ti3fu So you've either gotta agree that 99 united are the best or if someone doesn't agree with your opinion, their a kid that never saw the team?
Wow, this video restored my faith in football fans having a balanced and calm debate. Stay away from Twitter kids.
So if man utd's treble winning team is better than city's 23 team. Then surely if pep wins the treble he is better than SAF as he would be doing it with a less good team?
@@xenon__47 it’s an interesting point, because what does it mean to be good or not? You’ve got to be good to achieve X, but you need have achieved X to be good? Chicken and Egg situation.
Everyone is coping here put 99 united and 23 city in a point based league,99 united will never win
Guardiola won the league with Barcelona B, then won the sextuple in his first year with Barcelona (who finished 3rd and trophyless before he joined).
They won the UCL in 06...
He cheated in the semifinals against chelsea in 2009.
@@guilhermevieira6010 You've watched one TikTok about it but never actually watched it or seen the other leg where Barca were given a undeserved red card and robbed way more than chelsea
@@davidallardice1657 you must be joking
@@SHK19962
And? My point remains.
I feel like they should have been more creative with the formation.
I know Neville and especially Irwin are heavily underrated by people nowadays.
However I do feel like the fullbacks are the weaker spot of this combined team.
So why not just play like 3 at the back and get Scholes or another attacker in?
I think i would go something like this.
Haaland Cole
Giggs De Bruyne Beckham
Keane Scholes
Dias Stam Stones
Schmeichel
I think you’re spot on tbh…
You fool! The team is this...
Scott Carson
Phillip Neville
Aymeric Laporte
David May
Rico Lewis
Quinton Fortune
Kalvin Phillips
Nicky Butt
Jonathan Greening
Julian Alvarez
Teddy Sheringham
I was going to write a long post about how Irwin is the best left back of the Premier League era (some would argue Ashley Cole, and yeah that's a debate that could be had) and it's wrong to leave him out because you want to get more attackers in.
But then I looked at your combined 11 and it occurred to me that with the amount of defensive work Giggs and Beckham did, you could conceivably play them as wingbacks and they'd be effective, so while I'd still prefer a back 4, I do think your team would work.
@@jedsithor
Yeah, i also don't like it when people make way to offensive teams. When they make like an all time XI and put Cruyff, Maradonna and Zidane in midfield haha.
I felt like this was still somewhat solid defensively. If i had to pick between for example Stones and Irwin, I would defenitely choose Irwin. However that would mean 4 defenders, so I had to include a right back then aswell. So I saw it more as a pair.
Pair one being:Irwin + Neville/Walker.
Pair 2: Stones + Scholes (or whoever else you would drop to allow a back 4).
@@jordy6144-d9tit’s easy. Just put Kdb behind Haaland as he basically plays there anyway, as mckola was suggesting. Neville and Irwin are more legacy players than Stones and Cole
Peps the only manager that can be criticised for being literally that good, that he doesn’t have to accept a job at an unsuccessful club.. so what if he’s not done it with a lower club, he’s the best manager in the world why would he join a team who can’t match his standards
I always think this, most people regard messi and ronaldo as the two goats of football yet they didn't prove themself in a small club that wasn't surrounded by the greatest players in the world lol
@@Holdtight920 literally makes no sense haha, and I’m a spurs fan who’s seen Kane be one of the leagues best players for nearly a decade now and he just gets shit on for being at us🤣 people like pep/messi etc don’t need to ruin their legacy by joining some shit show
It's not about legacy it's about a challenge?? can pep managed team who came declined as man united Fergie ??
As man United fans No one doubt pep it's the best coach in the world but someone's always curious about capabilities pep if manage a shit team
@@saintelianz5413 yeah but that’s different circumstances for everyone, Pep was manager of Barca B and then got promoted and won the treble etc and created arguably the best team ever, that’s a good achievement to do that as such a new and upcoming manager, it was always going to be impossible for him to join a worse club due to him being so successful. I agree that Fergie is also arguably the best manager ever and him doing it with a worse team helps that case, but again, you can’t really blame pep for getting a good job so young and doing extremely well
This was weirdly respectful
Yorke got 48 goal contributions in 52 games in that 98/99 season nearly the same as Haaland this season. Anyone that doesn't put Yorke in the team is having a shocker
So people are having a shocker because they put a guy with more goal contributions in the team over a guy with less?
@@Holdtight920 Formation was 4-4-2 bud
@@EthanG298 My bad dude, I thought you was saying yorke over haaland
@@Holdtight920 Nahh, Haaland obviously has to go in
Yorke was amazing that season and got over 20 assists. He would be a good partner for Haaland
Schmeichel, Irwin, Stam, Diaz, Walker, Scholes, Keane, Beckham, De Bruyne, Giggs, Haaland.
Pains me to not be able to get Cole in though.
Keane don't get in over Rodri
@@fifty-five6929 I'm afraid he does. As someone who actually was alive to watch the 99 United team rather than a lot of commenters here who are just kids & know jackshit about that era.
Spot on
This is the same team I'd go with too mate, bang on 👍
7 united players to 4 city players. so much cope going on in this comment
In Carragher’s defence, he was basing it off that 99 season individually verses this current season. Not overall careers
This is supposed to be the two teams and players in the specific seasons. Longevity/career shouldn't matter too much in this discussion. It's possible that Grealish had a better season than Giggs, that doesn't mean he's had a better overall career.
3-2-4-1 Form of current City Squad
Schmeichel
Stones - Dias - Stam
Rodri - Keane
Beckham - KDB - Scholes - Giggs
Haaland
Buvey had a great point at the end with guardiola.
This must be time-relative because most of the Manchester United players don’t start for Manchester City today.
You can argue the other way around aswell. It is all about which formation and style you play in.
Obviously it’s time relative, otherwise debates are pointless, Maguire would start for them otherwise
literally none of them do
Lmao the discredit it's disgusting af and you think this city player can play in tough era ??bunch of kids
Schmeichel, Stam, Keane, Scholes and Giggs do
Buvey absolutely smashing it. Pep is a generational manager. Pep also smashed fergie in 2 consecutive champions league finals. No debate IMO. Pep os Goat
All three went with Ferguson, and rightly so
Those teams that Fergie got to the final, especially the second one, weren’t very good. The fact he even got there was incredible.
@@celtic69 ah yes, the classic ‘we won’t give credit to pep because the opposition (Klopp/Ferguson) had less and came second, so they get props for going that far, while pep should’ve with the team he had’. Never gets old.
@@Gino565 at no point in my comment did I even mention Pep, I think he’s the best coach of all time, I’m just giving context to Fergies achievement. Weirdo.
@@celtic69 Could've sworn you utd fans acted like you were the best team in the world back then and tf you mean weren't very good, dominated the league for years in the most competitive league in the world but "weren't very good" ok then
Adam had it right initially.
PS
Nev Stam Dias Irwin
KDB Keane Scholes
Becks Hal Giggs
Very fair, except id have rodri over keane
Schmeichal, Neville, Dias, Stam, Irwin, Keane, Beckham, Scholes, Giggs, Haaland, KDB. 4-4-2/4-4-1-1
Scholes is the first player on the team sheet.
*kevin de bruyne
Most overrated player in the history of the prem. 0 Ballon’Dor votes
@@calvinsims9349 that doesn’t mean shit
Coming from a Chelsea fan but Ryan Giggs is the most potent left winger of all time. Most assists for a reason. He did his job
…of all time?
He had about 2 goals and 3 assists that season. He's without a doubt the best left winger to play in the prem but to say he did his job you can argue Grealish does his job just as well
@@davidallardice1657 I’d honestly take Grealish over Giggs not because I think he’s a better player but because he’s more suited to modern football
@@davidallardice1657 to win the treble , it’s not only epl. Epl grelaish has better output , but all comps giggs has better output that season
@@davidallardice1657 to win the treble , it’s not only epl. Epl grealish has better output , but all comps including both FA cup and champions league giggs has better output that season
It’s a 4-2-3-1
Schmicle
Walker Stones Stam Irwin
Rodri Keane
Beckham scholes De Bruyne
Haaland
Best way to fit all the best players in and people forget it is about how good they where THAT SEASON. John Stones and Paul Scholes not being in this team is mental
I think personally the only united players that go in which is a debate is stam scholes and Beckham. I think ederson obviously goes in because he's the best at ball playing in the world. Keane I'm afraid hasn't demonstrated he can play the way rodri goes. Scholes Beckham are the only ones that were so far ahead of there time and I think could easily slot into a pep system
3241 is the only way to do this.
Stam Dias Stones
Keane Rodri
Beckham Scholes KDB Giggs
Haaland
GK- Schmeichel
RB- Alves
CB- Stam
CB- Puyol
LB- Irwin
CDM- Keane
CM- Xavi
CM- Scholes
RW- Messi
ST- Eto'o
LW- Giggs
GK- Schmeichel
RB- Neville
CB- Stam
CB- Dias
LB- Irwin
CDM- Keane
CM- De Bruyne
CM- Scholes
RM- Beckham
ST- Haaland
LM- Giggs
KdB is the best midfielder in EPL history. And the level of the league is massively higher now than in 1999. Of course he should be in there.
Kdb isnt better than scholes period. Theres no debate there. But the way beckham played is more comparible to kdb thats why theres constant debate between the two. So if you were to put kdb in this team it would have been becks.
KDB is definitely better than Scholes. Thinking otherwise is an extreme case of nostalgia bias.
There definitely is a debate there, for those of us that aren’t blinded by our nostalgia goggles. Try watching some games.
He is though
There's always going to be the nostalgia bias people who will never accept someone to be a better midfielder than scholes even if it's very clear in the future, same as people will never see a better player than messi even if there eventually will be
I do think Buvey made a great point at 13:24 but it's ironic because Hamilton literally drives a mini around when he goes into Stevenage to remain low key 😆
Kdb would go against David Beckham. That’s the area he plays his best game.
Gundogan is the one to go against scholes
Schmeichel
Neville
Dias
Stam
Irwin
Beckham
Keane
Scholes
De Bruyne
Giggs
Haaland
I really love this channel. I used to enjoy these guys togther on the Kick Off but they've taken it to a better level with the Club.
I'm only a small channel but would love to eventually get to this level of production!
The KDB in the Beckham role is a good shout. Man Utd in attack played a 4-2-2-2 witu Giggs and Beckham playung almost like wide CAM's rstjer than touchline wingers, which benefited the overlap of the fullbacks and condensed midfield.
Kdb basically plays there anyway for City
Giggs all comps that season actually has better stats than grealish so far this season
People underrating scholesy is unbelievable, world class one of the best in the world
99.99% of those who are, where likely not even a twinkle in their dad's eye when the treble happened. Little teenage keyboard warriors with entitlement complex
@@insertgenericusernamehere2402says a city fan 😂🤣🤣🤣, your fans need rides from their parents and get their tickets free from schools. 🚸🚸🚸
Pep himself said he's the best midfielder of his generation. Zidane called him the complete midfielder.
I don’t think it’s underrating, I think it’s just you are picking between 3-4 of the best midfielders in Prem history in just two spots.
@@vflfan8622 pep never said that stop lying.
De Bruyne is definitely better than Scholes. Once City win the CL that will be the validation. ✅
hate city but buvey is a humble fan
Footballers are better now than ever !!
Schmeichel, G.Neville, Stam, Dias, Irwin, Beckham, Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Cole, Haaland
Schmeicher, Walker, Irwin, Stam, Stones, Keane, Scholes, De Bruyne, Beckham, Bernardo, Haaland. Subs: Dias, Neville, Gundogan, Giggs, Yorke, Cole
On a side note, Dwight Yorke is a very underrated player because he hit the big time late and he fell off at about 30. Had everything.
I love this format so much. Would love to see it for classic teams, maybe this United squad vs the Invincibles.
In a 4-3-3 imo:
GK: Schmeichel
RB: Walker
CB: Ruben Dias
CB: Stam
LB: Irwin
CDM: Keane
CM: KDB
CM: Scholes
RW: Bernardo Silva
ST: Haaland
LW: Giggs
Never taken a real true challenges? He had a title race with a UCL winning team. Liverpool had 1 defeat (from City) the whole season and were 2nd with 97 points.
Schmeichel - Neville, Dias, Stam, Irwin - Beckham, Keane, Scholes, Giggs - Kdb (false 9) - Haaland. Manager: Pep
GK - Schmeichel
LB - Irwin
CBs - Stam and Dias
RB - Neville
LM - Grealish
CMs - Gundogan and Keane (C)
RM - Beckham
SS - Yorke
ST - Haaland
No KDB? That's delusional
@@iliboydebest325 I considered a 4321 to fit him in but 98-99 Beckham and 98-99 Yorke were too good.
Stones was also a hard one to leave out
@MCFCReactsas said above I think 98-99 Yorke > 22-23 De Bruyne, just. Walker vs Neville is very close too
Adam saying Cole is better than Haaland is just mental such delusional bias
Bunch of nostalgia merchants😂😂no chance Keane makes it over Rodri same with Walker and Neville
Adam didnt fight enough for Scholes.
My Combined 99 vs 23 XI: (btw I don't support either team):
. Schmeichel
Neville Stones Stam Irwin
Mahrez Scholes Rodri Giggs
Silva Cole
If Buvey isn’t on the pod I don’t watch…
Love that dude
Realistically, Walker would be better in Neville's role than Neville would be in Walkers. If you're looking at just the 2 seasons, grealish gets in over Giggs and I'd have Haaland with KDB behind him with Scholes and Keane
My combined X11(4-2-3-1)
Schmiechel(GK)
Walker(RB)
Japh Stam(CB)
Ruben Dias(CB)
Dennis Irwin(LB)
Roy Keane(CDMF)
Paul Scholes(CMF)
Kevin Debruyne(CAMF)
Andy Cole(LMF)
Erling Haaland(CF)
Bernardo Silva(RMF)
POV: Bernardo Silva gets into that team because I think any manager even Sir Alex Ferguson if a player like silva was playing in that time would start for his technicality, high work rate all around the pitch, intelligence, movement and finishing abilities when called upon. I mean this little man can literally do everything running around the pitch without getting tired.
And Kyle Walker also gets in because I think he's more physical faster and has a higher work rate than Gary Neville today. I mean would Neville be able to stop players like vini JR Mbappe ousman dembelle Rashford and other top speedy wingers so easily even at 32 not at his best/prime or fittest. Kyle Walker deserves alot of credit 👏👏
Midfield has to be a diamond and get Scholes, Keane, Rodri and De Brunye in.
GK- Navas (17)
RB- Carvajhal (17)
CB- Ramos (17)
CB- Varane (17)
LB- Marcelo (17)
CDM- Alonso (12)
CM- Modric (17)
CM- Kroos (17)
RW- Bale (17)
ST- Benzema (12)
LW- Ronaldo (12)
Rodri would challenge Viera and Kante as the best ever DM in the league. Taking nothing away from Keane, Rodri gets in ahead of Keane.
Vieira wasn't a dm he was much more box to box. He always had a petite, edu or gilberto silva to play that role next to him. Fair point about Rhodri but don't think he plays the same role as PV did.
@@duncanberrington2254 Fair enough, you could say Kante was more box to box as well. Reinforces my point even more, I think Rodri is massively under appreciated for someone who will be an all-timer if he isn't already.
Good lad Buvey! Very impressive chat from you
Completely forgot about gundogan
This City team would HAMMER the 99 United team for one single reason. The refs wouldn´t let the violent Roy Keane stay on the pitch for long, and Scholes would be in danger as well, cause the players are way more than they were in 1999. So United wouldn´t finish with 11 players on the pitch..
Difference between guardiola and Fergie; guardiola is a coach, Fergie was a manager. Add the argument Adam makes about guardiola never really having a challenge like Fergie has, it's Fergie all day long.
Man UTD's 99 team is better than city 2023? So if pep wins the treble with a "less good" team then surely pep is better than SAF?
No because the playing field was more even in 99. SAF didn't have unlimited resources and that team didn't have the depth of this city team.
@@vflfan8622 i just love the rewriting of history in some of these comments, acting like fergie was struggling to pay the bills. Laughable. He spent plenty.
@@vflfan8622 Fergie broke the British transfer record 7 times mate. Arsenal were just the Liverpool of that era.
@@xenon__47 united had a lower net spend than liverpool and Newcastle in the 90s
@@Gino565 proportionally nothing compared to modern day Manchester city
this channel is how i get through work
4-5-1...Schmeichel, Neville, Diaz, Stam, Irwin, Beckham, Scholes, Keane, De Bruyne, Giggs, Haaland.
No Scholes 😂 jeez gents shocking
If it was 1999 i'd pick
Schmeichel
Walker Dias Stam Irwin
De Bruyne Keane Scholes Giggs
Haaland Yorke
But 2023 you need to pick
Ederson
Walker Stones Stam Irwin
Rodri
De Bruyne Gundogan
Silva Haaland Grealish
Players are more technical now, keepers need to pass, it's all about possession and movement rather than kick, run, tackle, cross. The Man City team of now play almost a different sport to 1999 teams.
GK- Valdes (09)
RB- Alves (09)
CB- Puyol (09)
CB- Pique (15)
LB- Alba (15)
CDM- Busquets (15)
CM- Xavi (09)
CM- Iniesta (09)
RW- Messi (15)
ST- Eto'o (09)
LW- Neymar (15)
"He was very good at tottenham"
Rory: "But he didn't win anything"
I always forget you can't be a good player unless you win trophies and trophies decide your individual ability...
Until he does it without money like Jose, Pep has an * on everything he does
Jose had no money at madrid ?
Another person that started watching football two weeks ago and has wrongly come to the conclusion that money is all it takes to win trophies.
I wonder, where are all Man Utd’s premier league’s and UCL’s in the past 10 years? Surely the money must’ve gotten them at least one?
Jose literally managed most insane madrid team and didn't win ucl with them what are you talking about
@@sfletsplaye You do know he won it before Madrid right? With fucking Porto? Pep couldnt do it when he was backed by a European country and not having Messi, so he had to get a Oil rich country to build him 10 teams and he still hasnt done it (tho he will probably finally do it now)
@@Gino565 I didnt say that. He is obviously a great coach. But for him to do what he does, he needs best of the best, top of the line shit. Like Buvey said he needs his F1 to show what he can do, and thats fine, BUT since he never even dared to not be in a club that just cant afford the F1, there will be an *. Like say he wins a treble and leave now. Can he do the same thing in say...Inter? Dortmund? Ajax?
When he doesnt have unlimited funds and players, can he do it now? That is the fucking *
What did Adam mean 11:11 when he said Ferguson is the only manager to beat Real Madrid in a final?
Beat Madrid with Aberdeen in the cup winners cup, back in the day
@Duncan 🏴 Yeah but Paisley also beat them in 81 and they lost to Inter in the 60s. He probably just got mixed up
@@samjones3167 🤷 probably just guessing what he meant
Buvey - 'Pep wouldn't take Paul Scholes'
I've literally seen videos of him saying that Paul Scholes is the one player from Man United that he would have loved in his team 😂😂
This is a 5d Chess movie, see...Buvey was so humble he made Adam compete against him through humility. Jfc what a mindfuck....or is that actually Buvey?
Ferguson is NOT the only manager to beat Madrid in European final! What's Adam smoking?
When did Ferguson beat Madrid? He beat Chelsea and Munich
@@lk7923 Aberdeen
Ferguson had to rejuvenate the entire club when he arrived at Man Utd. Every academy player from the class of 92 was not in the academy when Ferguson arrived. He brought them AND developed them. Not to discredit Guardiola, but when he arrived Messi was already in the team. Xavi and Iniesta won the euros and were league and champions league winners. Puyol the same. Busquets came from La Masia yes, but he was already in the academy and was almost 20 when Guardiola arrived and gave him his debut. Same goes for Pedro. So to me its unfair to try and equate Guardiolas academy success with Fergusons.
Schmeichel
Stones Stam Dias
Rodri
Beckham KDB Keane Giggs
Cole Haaland
This would be the team
Yorke was better in the treble season than cole
Basically if Pep took on a team like West Ham and got them into UCL and won an FA Cup or Europa League with them he will surpass Fergie. But many says he need that lower level team to become the goat
My combined 11 is a 4-3-3 which is as follows:
GK: Schmeichel
LB: Irwin CB: Diaz and Stam RB: Walker
CDM: Keano
Attacking Midfield: De Bruyne AND Scholes
Left Wing: Giggsy Right Wing: Beckham
Striker: Haaland
Silva > Beckham
Schmeichel
Stones Dias Stam Irwin
Bernardo Scholes Keane Grealish
KDB Haaland
Schmeichal
Neville Stam Dias Irwin
Keane KDB Scholes
Beckham Haaland Giggs
Walker and Neville are very close
Schmeichel
G.Neville R.Dias. Stam I
scholes. Keane.
Beckham KDB Grielish
Haaland
Grealish over the best left winger in the epl era? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Manager: Pep Guardiola
4411
Schmeichel
Walker
Stam
Dias
D Irwin
Beckham
Keane
Scholes
R Giggs
KDB
Haaland
None of Uniteds midfield get in for me. United = counter attacking team, nicking games in last moments, city = dominate games, possesion and break all records. Not even close.
Schmeical
Walker Dias Stan Irwin
KDB rodri scholes
Beckham haaland Bernardo
De Bruyne should be at right midfield. He has played in wide positions (not a winger) for man city many times, think all of his crosses to Haaland etc. He is clearly better than Beckham and would be comfortable playing there in a 4-4-2. No brainer for me
Mad respect to Buvey, proper lad
Great debate! When you think about it, it's really hard to pick one in and left another one out. All the players from City and Utd(treble team) are amazing, so idk who i'm going to select for this one!
Pete
Walker Stam Dias Irwin
Becks Scholes KDB Keane Giggs
Haaland
I’ll go 4-3-3, keep in mind we’re only comparing the players on the 2 seasons mentioned, although very little would actually change if this was an overall comparison.
Schmeichel
Walker
Stones
Stam
Irwin
Rodri
Scholes
Keane
KDB (Beckham role RW/RM)
Haaland
Grealish
Schmeichal
Neville
Stones
Stam
Irwin
Beckham
Scholes
Keane
Giggs
De Bruyne
Haaland
4-4-1-1: Schmeichel, Walker, Dias, Stam, Irwin, Beckham, Scholes, Keane, Giggs, De Bruyne, Haaland
so civil for a change