Anyone remember way back to a family meeting at robyns dining room table. Kody got pissy and swore . Time stopped while Robyn shot him a look , and said something to the effect of , " Kody. Not at MY table!". He settled down immediately. Later Christine said , " I didn't know we could talk to him like that"
Kody was definitely "in lust" with Robyn, we're about to see if it's real love. Robyn was "in love" with the fame and potential money she was about to get with the Brown's getting their tv show. I think the love bird's house of cards will crumble now that the other wives are gone there's no one but themselves to blame everything on, there's no longer "it's us verses the rest of the family, baby, it's always them, we're without fault" dynamic. If they lose the show then Robyn will 100% leave Kody, take everything he has, take the kids and try to get on Christine and Janelle's spinoff show. She'll turn Kody into the "abusive, controlling, evil, took all her money, r*pist" just like she did with her ex husband. She'll say Kody made her commit all these terrible acts, made her mistreat the other wives/kids and abused her so badly, "he's such an abusive partner and bad father, woe is me, I'm the victim, give me attention and fame because I'm pretending to cry!" Robyn's true colors are being revealed, her outside appearance is beginning to match how she looks on the inside. Everything we know about her leads to one conclusion, that she's the real narcissist and the one controlling Kody.
When the Vegas contractor was watching them he observed and stated that Robyn and Kody were still in the "honeymoon phase". Meaning they are still bumping who-hahas and liking one another.
@@dawnclark4635 Sobyn knows how to manipulate men into giving her what she wants. Her ex husband's family spoke out for the first time and Sobyn stole her ex husband (Preston) from her own sister, Fawn. She trapped Preston with a baby so he would marry her, left him with ruined credit, a lost business and took his kids, then she moved from MT to UT to chase down Kody, according to the reporter that spoke out and the Jessop family. She ran up credit card debt under 3 last names (that Janelle paid for) before marrying Kody which is fraud (I would think), she collected food stamps until 2012 which I guarantee you is welfare fraud because they had to have been WELL OVER income cutoffs for food stamps. Karma will get them and Kody will get a taste of what he helped Robyn do to Preston.
Omg you said everything I been thinking! Sobyn is the sneaky manipulative unfortunate looking snake that refuses to contribute anything ever to the family. All she's done is take from D1. I hope Christine and Janelle get their own show. I won't watch it if meri or snobyn are in it. Then again I don't think C & J would do a show with meri or snobyn
@@alongfellow4147 lol it definitely has! I've always thought she looked like a witch Halloween decoration, like Halloween witch propaganda but she also looks like that long nosed guy from Minecraft with that square head and big nose. Even when she was young and looked better I always knew she'd age terribly, I wasn't expecting that Headbangers Ball neck from all that fake crying tho 😳. Normally I wouldn't talk about a women's looks but for Sobyn I'll make an exception. That's what bothers me the most, her insulting Christine and Janelle AND stealing their money!? Even what she did to Meri, sucking up to her pretending to be her friend only to steal her husband AND she kicked her damn dog!? She's no better than your local succubus chick runnin around having 5 kids by 5 different dudes, collecting 5 child support checks, perfectly healthy but refusing to work and using her kid's child support checks to get her nails done. Sobyn is just like those chicks but she got lucky and landed a rich guy. I truly hope she loses everything, ends up in the old trailers and campers she came from but makes fun of, without money and her kids see that they've been controlled and brainwashed by her and they leave her too, couldn't happen to a better chick. 😊
I don’t think it was love from Robyn’s side. As a narcissist she saw Kody as her target and she manipulated him into loving her and marrying her. She saw him as the means of becoming rich and famous.
Really? Wow! I've had people get arrested on my birthday but if I was with someone and they pulled something like that the man would be getting casterated.
I never understood why Janelle or Kody would think Meri's birthday was a good anniversary date? Was Kody going to take them out to dinner together on that night each year?
@@whiterose9343 I’m sure he wanted to make them compete for who he’d take out to dinner. Whichever wife’s “behavior” was most pleasing to him at the time would get to celebrate that by the honor of him having dinner with her.
But his attitude is; these women wanted the principle. He provided that for them. They are ungrateful in his eyes. He did his duty. They wanted the “man” instead of the “family” , gotta listen to his wording. He’s such a shmuck!
This needs to be a Ted talk for young adults as they become serious in dating. Your demeanor and straight talk is so engaging, and I am totally nodding along as you speak. Well said 💯
Grody also calls Sobyn "Love" what rubbed viewers wrong was all this came down while Christine was pregnant and he disregarded her and the other women horribly.
LOVE you going back through the episodes! 100% correct, I believe Kody never felt the heart pounding, ache in the stomach, makes you forget what you were going to say when looking at them type of love until Robyn. No one else in that whole house could have gotten away with telling Kody to "put on his big boy panties", but she did and he took all the ribbing that came with that with a smile. Everyone knows when a man really loves you he will do ANYTHING for you. And men can be needier than women! Kody is very needy to Robyn. Lucky her! Ha!
Kody and Janelle had a deep platonic love for each other. They were basically friends and business partners who had sex. She also gave him four sons, including his first (Logan) and the son who made him proud by being the big wrestling champ and Air Force Academy grad (Hunter). Kody has admitted to being closer to his sons and, in the early years, they were all at Janelle's house because she was the "boy mom". I think that worked well for both Kody and Janelle because she was independent and didn't really want him around all the time. But having all the boys at her house insured that he had a reason to want to go to Janelle's. I think it's also important to remember that Janelle and Kody were the two who had been raised as mainstream Mormons, so they had no frame of reference for what polygamy should be like. Kody had no clue how to handle three wives and Janelle didn't know that she was being exploited.
Yep. There's a scene towards the beginning of the series where Janelle says she "didn't know a damn thing" about polygamy and what she was getting into.
Oh man kody just saw dollar signs when he got with hus first two wives bc he knew they could bring home the bacon. I think kody is the male version of sobyn but she's way more sneaky and manipulative
Robyn has her own agenda when she left her 1st Husband. She heard about the Browns and the Show. She wanted to be famous and be rich. She is using Kody for her own financial means. Now that she’s is married to Kody she will make sure she is left financially secured.
Yes. But I think this lifestyle (if you’re lucky) can make demands before the marriage. These concessions were made when he made that 5 hr. Trek. When he moved her down, all the negotiations were already in stone. The wives saw it immediately. But Kody is “the man!”
Wow,James! You and I picked up on exactly the same things. Sans Kody's obsession with trees. I noticed how nervous Janelle and Christine were and looking back I see where you're right about Kody. He was trying to present himself a certain way and in the beginning it was as a soft spoken,devoted husband and now he presents as an utter butthole. I also noticed that he called the kids my kids,not "Janelle's kids.","Christine's kids." and "Meri's kid." He loved his kids and now he just doesn't seem to love them unless they do what he wants! Maybe he would've been better off if he never adjusted to the camara being there. All of them were on their best behavior when it was.
I’m thrilled to be going through the seasons with you and love a/ your different take than the usual ones out there. Yours are just more thoughtful and you see it from a personal perspective rather than just a gossipy one. It’s so refreshing. Let’s do this! Season 1 episode 1 ✅ 🥂
That is a great idea! i ma here for it! James . seriously , are you a preacher or a councilor? You see able to cut through are the crazy and get to the real issue ! And I agree, more helpful and less gossipy!
Oh my gosh!! I saw the first episode recently and thought the same thing about the trees! Why is he always cutting them down , etc? Even Logan was trying to talk him out of it! I almost fell out of my chair laughing when you asked ,what is Kody's problem with trees!!?Lol!!
From the very start, Robin enterd the family. As someone above the rules of what dating should’ve been. As someone who said she wanted this family, but went out of her way. To let the women know that she may say that for the camera, that is not what she means.
This family is the perfect example of the damage wrought by "settling", isn't it? Tough reality for each member, but it seems especially sad for the children of the wives Kody settled for. Once he fell in love with Robyn it seems that Meri, Christine, Janelle and all the other members of the family just weren't good enough and he basically abandoned them. Kody does not appear to possess the type of loving commitment to still be a father to his own children with the wives who he no longer wanted relationships with.
Codfish is all about money and control.He go less connected to the original kids the minute sobyn entered the arena. Since the older boys have their brains and Janelle&Christine taught them to reach for the skies, they will not kowtow to everything codfish demands and it kills him. I am happy the boys will help, support and fight for their Moms cause dad is a guttersnipe along with sobynrobber wife
I'm so happy you're doing this. I've been doing this myself. Going over past episodes to dispute what Kody and Robyn have said. It's really interesting. Thank you!
The crazy thing is they all would’ve stayed if he would’ve just done the bare minimum. They were fine settling. But he refused to even bare minimum it and literally went on a mission to become monogamous
Ooh this is so good!! It makes you think, if Kody had just recognised this early enough and spoke his truth, many years of hurt could have been avoided
Let’s be straight. Cody doesn’t know how to love. He’s getting older and he settled with Robin. This man is a joke and he’s going to be miserable without always having somebody adoring him.
It’s sad cause I’m an empath and I know he is a narcissist and he will never find what he needs to be satisfied. Robyn is the one who will suffer at the end of the day. I know she feels like she is standing by her man and I blame her as the bad person…but really she is the victim of his abuse.
@@ging-a-roo2429 I don't see Robyn as a victim. She's very manipulative. Now that she's getting older / losing her looks, I could see her coaching her girls into some wealthy marriages of their own. Then, they will keep her in the lifestyle she's become accustom to. She has had kids as insurance policies all along. I predict she and Kody will burn out as the money runs out- and it will.
If the higher-ups in the church were paying closer attention to Kody they would’ve known he was unfit for plural marriage because he was self centered and an attention hog. Their book explains his personality at the time. He definitely wasn’t ready at 22 to take on 3 wives and shoulder that responsibility with maturity and grace. And he never should have had access to Christine but hey she liked him because he was “cute” with a great “personality”.
I heard in another video that church elders were concerned And possibly warned Kody on not getting wrapped up in the money and/or losing his head with the notoriety of the show.
I think these people have grown up and continued to live as insecure, isolated and indoctrinated individuals trying to make something work that just doesn't.
The problem between Meri and Janelle is that Janelle was married to Meri's brother and Janelle again went and ask Kody behind Meri's back to be part of the family and Janelle again wanted to married Kody on Meri's birthday that the problem between these two ladies
That might have been a factor but I also think it had a bit to do with the treatment of the other wives and the children. Notice that a majority of the kids who are speaking out all have one thing in common. They are mostly Christine's kids. Meri stated that she had issues with Janelle but she didn't feel threatened by her because she didn't feel that Janelle and Kody's union was romantic. I think Janelle was there and they wanted to add so she got picked.
That is Kody's story. I'm not convinced that Janelle asked to join the family or that she is the one who chose Meri's birthday as their wedding date. After all the lies Kody had told over the years, I take anything he says with a whole box of salt.
Kody desperately wanted each of the women settle. Then he could give his bare minimum. All the while continuing to use them for financial support. He and Robin both need to continue their lifestyle.
Your calling in life is meant to be a life coach. Never settle or be the person someone is settling for. Real truth. No idea Kody didn't grow up polygamous. No wonder why it is epically falling apart.
You are so on target James! We are treated the way we allow them to treat us. I can only imagine the low self esteem the first 3 wives had, to get roped in by Cody. They were brainwashed from childhood that they didn't deserve better.
Good analysis. I think when he met Mary at 20 and married I think at 22...he did have some attraction for her and felt some excitement for her but it dwindled down quickly....or whenever. But he never had feelings for the other two....Janelle had a house and Christine was more royalty, as you said. He was young and dumb....marrying so many I think all before he was 25 or 26. Then he had all these children and all were stuck.
Great insights. It's better, and less lonely, to be single than be with the wrong person. At least as a single person you have more time for friendships.
Absolutely agree 💯 , Kody treats Robyn differently because he is in love with her . Very easy to see the differences , manly where he spends his time and devotes his energy to.
@@karolegrano5942 Robyn "seduced" her first husband and did the same with Kody. That story about Preston stealing her purity was BS. Preston wanted Robyn's sister, Fawn, not Robyn, but she got pregnant, so he did the right thing, and married her.
@@karolegrano5942 Yes. Imo, Kody's ego was inflated that Robyn would be attracted to him since he was like 10 years older. Imo, Robyn was probably more "experienced" in the boudoir seductively wearing her scanty Victoria's Secret lingerie. That inflated his manhood. I'm inclined to believe it is more lust than true love on his part. On her part, she said she would do whatever she had to do to provide security for her children. So telling.
I think Kody did love Christine, despite his claims until she was no longer, light and easy, as Kody put it. Once she started to be concerned for herself and her treatment and her worth, that Kody felt differently.......
You will always get less then you settle for….Mr. James is soooo good, I enjoy his take on reality, but I equally enjoy his Nuggets of Wisdom and advice 😊❤
Robyn grew up in polygamy too. I believe her mom didn’t live near the other wives and so in her day to day life she would have seen only monogamy. But she was technically raised in polygamy like Meri and Christine.
Yes. Her mom was the 3rd wife and told snobyn to always make the relationship like it's always the honeymoon stage. I do wonder if she always had a nanny or why does she not care for her own kids?!
“He’s genuinely attracted to her, and she’s genuinely attracted to him (for whatever reason)”. Not sure if you meant that to be funny but it gave me a laugh 😉 Very interesting take overall!
Yes, being honest and not holding them up to find someone that is right for them. I have done this twice, and although it's painful for both people, it's the right thing to do- especially if you're young. No regrets.
I feel Kodys thinking about dividing his time is flawed as it doesn't take into account the quality of the time spent with each spouse. If he is going to spend time reluctantly with a spouse while texting and phoning Robyn and being in a surly mood the whole time over just having to be there at all then it does not count as the same amount of time as that reflected on the clock OR the amount of time it feels like to kody. Kody committed the crime, he should have done the time or set his victims free. Instead they freed themselves. All that is left to do now is get some justice.
He was in love with Meri. What happened? I don't know. Maybe she only had one child. Maybe that she abused the kids. I totally agree that C and J were settled.
@@Avmuhammad64 That does make sense. Also, especially early on, Meri's houses weren't full of babies / kids all over the place screaming & crying. At Meri's and then Robyn's houses, he could relax. That's why Robyn had had the babysitters. Also, Robyn & Meri were both slender. I hate to say that, but there is some truth to it. With having so many children back to back like they did would wear their bodies out.
You know back in the early days I can't remember which season it is I'll have to watch back but there was a Time Janelle complain to Robin about using her time with Kody by always calling saying she had something she needed from him,to take him away.
When Kody's divorced Mary after Solomon was born so he could adopt ( allegedly) Robyns 3 older kid's Robyn offered to carry a baby for Meri ( which I believe Kody's would've never let happen) then Kody told Meri he. DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A BABY WITH HER!!. Can't imagine the pain..then Mykelti had the audacity to blame Meri for the way Meri sought for some kind of acceptance from someone else, anyone else. Then to see Robyn giggling over her and Kody doing their taxes, something Meri used to do, in front of Meri !. I could feel the hurt Meri had to have had.
Truth is spoken here. James, you do have a very unique insight, in my opinion. Not only because of your training, I think sociology or social work…..? I forget, but I know you mentioned it once before. Additionally, you’re a male. Wondering, would you do a Q&A or maybe a Live soon? Would be cool for us to be able to chat with you. Thanks for your videos. My hubby and his enjoy them and we agree with your perspective. Take care! P.S. Q&A about Sister Wives and your thoughts to questions. Thanks for your time.
Thanks for watching. To your question, yes I am currently in the process of trying to get set up to do live streams. Hopefully I can figure it out sooner rather than later.
This is something I have been thinking about. I personally believe that Kody didn’t have the capacity to love the other wives the way he loves Robyn. I believe he just had a chance to fall in love with her. He only courted Christine and Janell for 2 weeks and two months. They barely saw one another between their first date and their weddings. He was friends with Meri for six months and basically got engaged on their first date. Kody also didn’t have much if any relationship experience. Kody DATED Robyn for six months before they got married. They were older. They both had kids, had been through some changes in life. They had a chance to get to know one another and fall in love. I personally believe Christine is the love of his life. Meri said their relationship was the one that made her feel threatened. The way they were relaxed and easy going around one another. I think putting her down was his way of not making the other wives jealous. I also think this is why he was so mad she was leaving. I don’t think it was just his ego. I think she was something he loved and it was was being taken away. Instead of just being honest with Christine about his feelings. Robyn knows how to manipulate Kody. I think if she didn’t he would treat her the way he treats the other wives.
From what I e heard Merri was aggressive/borderline abusive to Janelle & some of the kids. I also felt like Kody had love and outward affection for Merri & Christine earlier on.
My boyfriends used to be part of the Mormon church (not polygamist ) … he has been out of the church over 40 years and these people still come to his house (even after moving over the years) and ask for him and want him to give money to the church. My point is, the church will prey on kodys family for “contribution “ because they know there is money there.
@@kaylakramer7413 crap, hope not,I’m Episcopalian. I’m sure they would try to convert, lol. I just don’t understand why they can’t leave people alone who have left the church. More like a cult to keep coming after people.
@@ging-a-roo2429 They want to use it as a way to inflate/lie about the amount of member’s they have in their faith, they keep up with you to keep showing up and pressure you into again becoming an active member because the poor missionaries think it is their responsibilities to not give up on & to save & or convert people into “The One True Church”. The church does this to hopefully get you coming back as well as to literally harrass people to give because a lot of people who stop going keep paying & playing their games as a way to not loose their entire family, identies & culture & a lot of people do not stop giving money because they still love & support the church & hope it will evolve & they will then become active again, a lot of people donate because that is still what they feel is the right thing, other’s due to the culture & the way thing’s are out there decide to just pay so as to not upset anyone & the list continues. It is a sad sick game, a cult, a sham & just so many bad dark thing’s I could literally write a series of books & still never finish fully explaining & stating fact’s about them. Everyone would be so much better off if they would just admit they have all been fooled & then share & admit the truth they have hid & have proof of for many years & to just even say it was new thing’s & several investigation’s later proved it was a cult & everyone would definately fespect them more & many would be better off. However they will not as the church runs the state & is envolved in every decision & move & they make way too much money to stop the culty scam now. Sickining, they should all be prosecuted for the criminal orginazation they are (those who are in the know or those whom let it control the state affairs) however it is never going to happen where everyone would be charged because how do they prove it & no one will go up against them because of their status, we allow many religious organization’s to do this however Utah is the most extreme example I have ever researched or been told of (as far as controlling an entire state & it’s affair’s). Many describe Utah alone as such a backward’s & culturally different place than anywhere in the U.S. & people have explained how it has damaged them in so many way’s it’s unreal, the state of Utah has more prescription’s of antidepresant’s written in the nation, more mental health problem’s than anwhere in the U.S. with more than 30% of it’s resident’s having mental health problem’s, as of 2021 there were 550,000 adult’s with at least one mental health disorder & that is more than 2 times the entire population of Salt Lake City. I could also keep listing fact’s actual statistic’s but you understand. Also the church pay’s to put their website’s all over google flooding it with their narrative so a lot of people from the church use it to stay blinded by lie’s but the truth is all over as well however a person must be strong enough to believe fact’s versus all the church site’s & whatever narrative’s they wanna control & they also have to want to listen & indoctrination is strong & if that is what one live’s all their life or even for some of it they tend to unfortunately only listen to the church. It is all just so terribly sad, but hell look at scientology, arguably the most corrupt & criminal enterprise & the government knows & has been a victim of their attack’s but they still turn a blind eye to it & allow it to continue.
@@kaylakramer7413 Indoctrination is a huge word! Everything you wrote was very informative. There are many religions that are cults. It’s just a shame that so many are able to be sucked in. What makes me sad is that the two young girls that came to the door had name tags on and were dressed as adults. I didn’t notice a car but would have liked to see who brought them to the house.
@@ging-a-roo2429 That is sad & terribly frightening no kids should be doing door to door without an adult ever! Blows my mind they allow & think it ok to send children, teen’s or even young impressionable adults. However I see people saying they get children or young people coming from the church. Here in Florida they do not even allow door fundraisers from school to go door to door, most do not do fundraisers & when I was young (34 now) we had to alway’s bring an adult then we went & to be sure you never go inside to then banning door to door & before 2007 when I graduated fundraising was completely cut out door to door. Just too many thing’s could & did happen on occasion.
I believe that Kody did genuinely have affection and care for all of his wives at some point, however all of the relationships lacked the foundation of faithfulness and loyalty that should be expected in relationships. It is not normal to always feel in competition with other women and jockey for position with a husband, there will always be a crack there that will get bigger over time.
Kody's father converted to the AUB and took more wives during his adolescence, so he was semi brought up in it. Funny thing, though random lol but Janelle was married to Meri's brother before divorcing him to marry Kody and do plural marriage. Also, Janelle's mother ended up joining a plural marriage with Kody's father. But Janelle was not raised in polygamy. Polygamist family trees are more like a bramble bush lol
@@kaylabryson1932 lol I didn't know the exact year, I knew it was in his teens though. It was after his mission trip, right? I've been looking at the book they wrote years ago and some of the stuff they say in there kind of bumps with some things they have said since lol. Kody especially has kind of a tendency to alter history lol
No James the reason why Mary and Janelle did not get along had nothing to do with the fact that Janelle didn’t understand how this works or doesn’t work I mean it doesn’t take it rocket scientist to figure out how it works. It was all about the fact that Janelle and Cody started talking about bringing Janelle into the family Behind Mary’s back Janelle having feelings for Mary when Mary brought Cody home to introduce to her family, which at that time included her sister-in-law Janelle so it was the fact that it probably caught her offguard that her sister-in-law or ex sister-in-law wanted to join her family, but the fact that it was also done secretly behind Mary’s back… Very similar to how Robin came into the family Minus the wife being around to facilitate “facilitate“ because I still don’t believe that Cody and Robin didn’t run into each other before hand and then just acted like they never met… Because Janelle and Mary were friends they got along well when they were sister-in-law‘s, they even got along well when Janelle and Adam got divorced it wasn’t until it was done sneaky way I mean it was betrayal. And I think on top of all of that bringing in that first wife into an already established relationship always going to be rocky. I mean this is why Christine never wanted to be a second wife she did not want to Bar on a monogamous relationship and the way that Cody and Janelle had gone about talking about Janelle coming into the family and I’m getting married and all that I think that was hurt. Never mind the fact that Cody and Jenelle wanted to get married on Mary’s birthday… Who does that?! That was messed up on top of everything else now you’re going to be like oh let’s get married on Mary’s birthday that sounds like a good idea and the fact that that didn’t change until Cody‘s mom talked him out of it, like Janelle was never like oh you know this probably hard on her as it is we were kind of sneaky talking to each other like that so maybe we shouldn’t then get married on her birthday. I think Mary felt very out of control and such a big part of her life, she had no control in… Like her love life she couldn’t control the fact that her husband was bringing other women, marrying other women sleeping with other women having children with other women… And there was like a three year. Where it was just Marie and Cody and they were trying to have a baby and then Janelle comes in and gets pregnant almost right away because there was barely a year in between Janelle getting married to Cody and Christine Marie and Cody, but all of these things that happened that caused Mary to feel so betrayed by Janelle aren’t things that only a polygamist person who grew up in polygamy would know is just wrong. I love Janelle Janelle’s one of my favorites. I think that she is just the complete opposite of me, you know my opinions everything that comes into my head comes out of my mouth if I don’t do something you damn well will know about it and if I don’t like someone there will be no questioning how I feel about that person and I’m also not wanting to just keep my mouth shut… It has gotten me in trouble my entire life. My whole entire life, so I appreciate people who are opposite of me. You know the chill laid-back go with the flow not going to show everyone my emotions type of a person because even if I’m not saying how I’m feeling in that very second my face says it all, but anyway, Janelle was dead wrong for how she came into the family, I mean, she even said that the minute that she met, which was when she was still married and in a full relationship with Adam, they were not separated. They were not divorced yet. They were still together as a couple that she felt like coming home and not for nothing. I just don’t understand why if Janelle wanted to come into the family why would you not have gone to your friend? This is the one that you’ve been friends with for years at this point this was someone who was your sister-in-law… and again it has nothing to do with if you grew up in polygamy and you understand the etiquette or whatever I mean, it’s a common sense type of thing. Plus, a fact that if you wanted to join this family, why wouldn’t you have gone to your friend someone that you’ve been friends with for years someone who was your sister-in-law for years, and listen I think that I am supposed to be a part of your family. This is how I’m feeling… It may have been an awkward conversation, but the fact that it was always known that Cody and Mary were planning on taking more wives and being a plural family, it’s not like you know monogamous couple being like I think I want to be a throuple with you. I think Janelle was dead wrong in that situation and that is why her and Mary were never able to get back onto the same page because that foundation of a relationship as a sister wife was built upon betrayal . That is just my opinion
There's one big reason Kody is attractive to Robyn & why Robyn feels superior to the other wives, to comes down to one thing and that's one simple act that she has in common with your local ladies of the evening, it starts with a B* and she knows the other wives no longer partake so she' s the game player, not Christine.
You could actually place a picture of Kody into the DSM 5 in the section of Narcissist Personality Disorder. Robyn should run. Grey rock or no contact is the only way to stop the abuse of these people. It's pathetic that TLC is giving him a salary and public platform. Dream come true for a NPD. Neverending supply.
In regards to Meri and Janelle not getting along initially- I do not believe Meri took her by the hand and gently guided her along! Also, Janelle is bright. I could see her actively reading the spiritual literature at church, learning about plural marriage. These 3 were in a small trailer all together with thin walls. Meri was married to Kody, for a good (sexually active) year before Janelle came along. I think Meri knew the rulebook, tossed it into the trash, and made a more demur Janelles life a living hell! They took Janelle's financial contribution, and left Janelle sitting in a trailer by herself, while they went on vacation after vacation after quitting jobs frivolously. I do believe Meri and Kody initially were in love, with passion, before there were children, & no real financial concerns. That's how Kody rolls. He wants no stress, and life to be easy breezy. Both Meri and Robyn figured that out fast! And now the very same dynamic is happening all over again, with Robyn at the helm! Thirty years later and she is back to humiliating square one. Janelle is intelligent with her finances, but is not exactly street smart! She gave her "best friend" Kody waaay more credit than he ever deserved! He views Janelle as his little buddy to this day, that rat! And Meri was strung along as well, always secretly hoping, because she had Kody's heart once, she may again. He had to tell her directly, that no, that was never going to happen again. Imo, it's especially tourcherous b/c after all these years, and all her devotion (finding him Robyn) she is left flat- period.
Exactly. We should dive into that. How Meri must have felt when Christine joined the family for example. It's probably in their book but I haven't read it.
I feel like everyone has been known this stuff but clearly not …. Mari was so upset about Robin coming into the family and having such a problem with it that before Robin and Kody even got engaged the 3 of them had to go to therapy together.
Exactly! The elders fail at leading this life choice. But I don’t think Kody would listen anyway. Kody did this for all selfish reasons. He “gave” these women an opportunity to live the principle. They are ungrateful now. He did his “duty”. Now they should honor him. Remember: “they wanted the man, not the family” he performed, the act was easy. Lying is not a problem in their religion. Kids are taught to lie immediately about how they live. Lying comes easier over time, once it’s allowed.
“This guy cannot just STAND to see a tree standing!” 🤣🤣🤣had me dyin, I can’t. It’s so true tho. MormOns have a wierd anti nature-“we have dominion over the whole earth and don’t need to take care of it if we don’t want” kind of ethos. Becomes really evident if you ever visit Utah. Especially SLC, Provo, Bountiful, and all them towns.
Id have liked to see Kody and Meri when they started out bc you get gimpses of them sometimes, and I think they were really good friends. They play well off each other, find the other funny..i think maybe Kody didn't let himself fall in love w her...
I don't agree that Kody wasn't in love with Meri (especially), Janelle and Christine. The difference is that we're seeing his relationship with Robyn from the start. Compared to seeing his relationship with his three wives after 16+ years of marriage. Of course it's going to look different. They're all way past the honeymoon stage. And Christine married Kody while Janelle was pregnant. Why was it OK for Kody & Christine to do that to Janelle but not ok when he and Robyn turn around and do it to Christine? (I don't think either is ok btw).
I think Robyn settled for Kody and now has cost him his whole family. From what her ex husband family says she wanted fame not him. Karma now all those women who truly loved Kody have left and all that left is the one using him.
Anyone remember way back to a family meeting at robyns dining room table. Kody got pissy and swore . Time stopped while Robyn shot him a look , and said something to the effect of , " Kody. Not at MY table!". He settled down immediately. Later Christine said , " I didn't know we could talk to him like that"
Exactly
Kody was definitely "in lust" with Robyn, we're about to see if it's real love. Robyn was "in love" with the fame and potential money she was about to get with the Brown's getting their tv show. I think the love bird's house of cards will crumble now that the other wives are gone there's no one but themselves to blame everything on, there's no longer "it's us verses the rest of the family, baby, it's always them, we're without fault" dynamic. If they lose the show then Robyn will 100% leave Kody, take everything he has, take the kids and try to get on Christine and Janelle's spinoff show. She'll turn Kody into the "abusive, controlling, evil, took all her money, r*pist" just like she did with her ex husband. She'll say Kody made her commit all these terrible acts, made her mistreat the other wives/kids and abused her so badly, "he's such an abusive partner and bad father, woe is me, I'm the victim, give me attention and fame because I'm pretending to cry!" Robyn's true colors are being revealed, her outside appearance is beginning to match how she looks on the inside. Everything we know about her leads to one conclusion, that she's the real narcissist and the one controlling Kody.
When the Vegas contractor was watching them he observed and stated that Robyn and Kody were still in the "honeymoon phase". Meaning they are still bumping who-hahas and liking one another.
@@dawnclark4635 Sobyn knows how to manipulate men into giving her what she wants. Her ex husband's family spoke out for the first time and Sobyn stole her ex husband (Preston) from her own sister, Fawn. She trapped Preston with a baby so he would marry her, left him with ruined credit, a lost business and took his kids, then she moved from MT to UT to chase down Kody, according to the reporter that spoke out and the Jessop family. She ran up credit card debt under 3 last names (that Janelle paid for) before marrying Kody which is fraud (I would think), she collected food stamps until 2012 which I guarantee you is welfare fraud because they had to have been WELL OVER income cutoffs for food stamps. Karma will get them and Kody will get a taste of what he helped Robyn do to Preston.
Omg you said everything I been thinking! Sobyn is the sneaky manipulative unfortunate looking snake that refuses to contribute anything ever to the family. All she's done is take from D1. I hope Christine and Janelle get their own show. I won't watch it if meri or snobyn are in it. Then again I don't think C & J would do a show with meri or snobyn
@Ashleah sobyn looks like an angry emu so it looks like karma has already started to knock on sobyns door.
@@alongfellow4147 lol it definitely has! I've always thought she looked like a witch Halloween decoration, like Halloween witch propaganda but she also looks like that long nosed guy from Minecraft with that square head and big nose. Even when she was young and looked better I always knew she'd age terribly, I wasn't expecting that Headbangers Ball neck from all that fake crying tho 😳. Normally I wouldn't talk about a women's looks but for Sobyn I'll make an exception. That's what bothers me the most, her insulting Christine and Janelle AND stealing their money!? Even what she did to Meri, sucking up to her pretending to be her friend only to steal her husband AND she kicked her damn dog!? She's no better than your local succubus chick runnin around having 5 kids by 5 different dudes, collecting 5 child support checks, perfectly healthy but refusing to work and using her kid's child support checks to get her nails done. Sobyn is just like those chicks but she got lucky and landed a rich guy. I truly hope she loses everything, ends up in the old trailers and campers she came from but makes fun of, without money and her kids see that they've been controlled and brainwashed by her and they leave her too, couldn't happen to a better chick. 😊
I don’t think it was love from Robyn’s side. As a narcissist she saw Kody as her target and she manipulated him into loving her and marrying her. She saw him as the means of becoming rich and famous.
Kody is the problem he put this women against each other from the start. He tried to married Janelle on Meri's birthday.
Really? Wow! I've had people get arrested on my birthday but if I was with someone and they pulled something like that the man would be getting casterated.
And…he went on a honeymoon when Christine was pregnant…selfish as Truck
I never understood why Janelle or Kody would think Meri's birthday was a good anniversary date? Was Kody going to take them out to dinner together on that night each year?
@@whiterose9343 I’m sure he wanted to make them compete for who he’d take out to dinner. Whichever wife’s “behavior” was most pleasing to him at the time would get to celebrate that by the honor of him having dinner with her.
Adding in the fact that Janelle was Meri's ex sister in law.
So he says he was never attracted to christine but he managed to get it up at least 6 times didnt he.
But his attitude is; these women wanted the principle. He provided that for them. They are ungrateful in his eyes. He did his duty. They wanted the “man” instead of the “family” , gotta listen to his wording. He’s such a shmuck!
This needs to be a Ted talk for young adults as they become serious in dating. Your demeanor and straight talk is so engaging, and I am totally nodding along as you speak. Well said 💯
Grody also calls Sobyn "Love" what rubbed viewers wrong was all this came down while Christine was pregnant and he disregarded her and the other women horribly.
LOVE you going back through the episodes! 100% correct, I believe Kody never felt the heart pounding, ache in the stomach, makes you forget what you were going to say when looking at them type of love until Robyn. No one else in that whole house could have gotten away with telling Kody to "put on his big boy panties", but she did and he took all the ribbing that came with that with a smile. Everyone knows when a man really loves you he will do ANYTHING for you. And men can be needier than women! Kody is very needy to Robyn. Lucky her! Ha!
The way to Kody's heart was through his pencil. (Victoria's Secret)
@@jeliz9717 we’ve really turned that snarky pencil comment back on Kody and I’m here for it.
@j eliz we all know that he referenced it as a pencil bc his is most definitely small and skinny like a ✏️
Kody and Janelle had a deep platonic love for each other. They were basically friends and business partners who had sex. She also gave him four sons, including his first (Logan) and the son who made him proud by being the big wrestling champ and Air Force Academy grad (Hunter). Kody has admitted to being closer to his sons and, in the early years, they were all at Janelle's house because she was the "boy mom". I think that worked well for both Kody and Janelle because she was independent and didn't really want him around all the time. But having all the boys at her house insured that he had a reason to want to go to Janelle's.
I think it's also important to remember that Janelle and Kody were the two who had been raised as mainstream Mormons, so they had no frame of reference for what polygamy should be like. Kody had no clue how to handle three wives and Janelle didn't know that she was being exploited.
Yep. There's a scene towards the beginning of the series where Janelle says she "didn't know a damn thing" about polygamy and what she was getting into.
Oh man kody just saw dollar signs when he got with hus first two wives bc he knew they could bring home the bacon. I think kody is the male version of sobyn but she's way more sneaky and manipulative
Robyn has her own agenda when she left her 1st Husband. She heard about the Browns and the Show. She wanted to be famous and be rich. She is using Kody for her own financial means. Now that she’s is married to Kody she will make sure she is left financially secured.
Yes. But I think this lifestyle (if you’re lucky) can make demands before the marriage. These concessions were made when he made that 5 hr. Trek. When he moved her down, all the negotiations were already in stone. The wives saw it immediately. But Kody is “the man!”
You got it, James! I love the 'don't settle' theory...downfall of Polygamy. ♥️
Yay! I hope you don't get sick of Sister Wives because I will be here for every episode!
Me too!
Me three!🙋🏾♀️
Me four!
We're like a James fan club. Lol
Wow,James! You and I picked up on exactly the same things. Sans Kody's obsession with trees. I noticed how nervous Janelle and Christine were and looking back I see where you're right about Kody. He was trying to present himself a certain way and in the beginning it was as a soft spoken,devoted husband and now he presents as an utter butthole. I also noticed that he called the kids my kids,not "Janelle's kids.","Christine's kids." and "Meri's kid." He loved his kids and now he just doesn't seem to love them unless they do what he wants! Maybe he would've been better off if he never adjusted to the camara being there. All of them were on their best behavior when it was.
I’m thrilled to be going through the seasons with you and love a/ your different take than the usual ones out there. Yours are just more thoughtful and you see it from a personal perspective rather than just a gossipy one. It’s so refreshing. Let’s do this! Season 1 episode 1 ✅ 🥂
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That is a great idea! i ma here for it! James . seriously , are you a preacher or a councilor? You see able to cut through are the crazy and get to the real issue ! And I agree, more helpful and less gossipy!
Oh my gosh!! I saw the first episode recently and thought the same thing about the trees! Why is he always cutting them down , etc? Even Logan was trying to talk him out of it! I almost fell out of my chair laughing when you asked ,what is Kody's problem with trees!!?Lol!!
Disingenuous is my favourite word it sums up Kootie just right
From the very start, Robin enterd the family. As someone above the rules of what dating should’ve been. As someone who said she wanted this family, but went out of her way. To let the women know that she may say that for the camera, that is not what she means.
This family is the perfect example of the damage wrought by "settling", isn't it? Tough reality for each member, but it seems especially sad for the children of the wives Kody settled for. Once he fell in love with Robyn it seems that Meri, Christine, Janelle and all the other members of the family just weren't good enough and he basically abandoned them. Kody does not appear to possess the type of loving commitment to still be a father to his own children with the wives who he no longer wanted relationships with.
Codfish is all about money and control.He go less connected to the original kids the minute sobyn entered the arena. Since the older boys have their brains and Janelle&Christine taught them to reach for the skies, they will not kowtow to everything codfish demands and it kills him. I am happy the boys will help, support and fight for their Moms cause dad is a guttersnipe along with sobynrobber wife
I'm so happy you're doing this. I've been doing this myself. Going over past episodes to dispute what Kody and Robyn have said. It's really interesting. Thank you!
The crazy thing is they all would’ve stayed if he would’ve just done the bare minimum. They were fine settling. But he refused to even bare minimum it and literally went on a mission to become monogamous
Love your take on Sister Wives!! 👏👏👏
Thank you for your insights. 😊👍
Thank you, thank you, thank you, James. Now we get our favorite RUclips personality explaining the beginnings. Repeat, Oh Thank You!
Ooh this is so good!! It makes you think, if Kody had just recognised this early enough and spoke his truth, many years of hurt could have been avoided
Let’s be straight. Cody doesn’t know how to love. He’s getting older and he settled with Robin. This man is a joke and he’s going to be miserable without always having somebody adoring him.
It’s sad cause I’m an empath and I know he is a narcissist and he will never find what he needs to be satisfied. Robyn is the one who will suffer at the end of the day. I know she feels like she is standing by her man and I blame her as the bad person…but really she is the victim of his abuse.
@@ging-a-roo2429 I don't see Robyn as a victim. She's very manipulative. Now that she's getting older / losing her looks, I could see her coaching her girls into some wealthy marriages of their own. Then, they will keep her in the lifestyle she's become accustom to. She has had kids as insurance policies all along. I predict she and Kody will burn out as the money runs out- and it will.
If the higher-ups in the church were paying closer attention to Kody they would’ve
known he was unfit for plural marriage because he was self centered and an attention hog. Their book explains his personality at the time. He definitely wasn’t ready at 22 to take on 3 wives and shoulder that responsibility with maturity and grace. And he never should have had access to Christine but hey she liked him because he was “cute” with a great “personality”.
Great personality.?
@@justiceseeker Yeah😂All of them loved his “personality” back then. They all stated it in their book.
I heard in another video that church elders were concerned And possibly warned Kody on not getting wrapped up in the money and/or losing his head with the notoriety of the show.
I really enjoy your videos and your assessment of the situations and relationships. Thank you!!
So glad you are doing this, some folks are new to Sister Wives and the look back is informative.
I think these people have grown up and continued to live as insecure, isolated and indoctrinated individuals trying to make something work that just doesn't.
Super insightful analysis, James, and great advice about not settling for someone, or being settled for by someone else.
The problem between Meri and Janelle is that Janelle was married to Meri's brother and Janelle again went and ask Kody behind Meri's back to be part of the family and Janelle again wanted to married Kody on Meri's birthday that the problem between these two ladies
That might have been a factor but I also think it had a bit to do with the treatment of the other wives and the children. Notice that a majority of the kids who are speaking out all have one thing in common. They are mostly Christine's kids. Meri stated that she had issues with Janelle but she didn't feel threatened by her because she didn't feel that Janelle and Kody's union was romantic. I think Janelle was there and they wanted to add so she got picked.
That is Kody's story. I'm not convinced that Janelle asked to join the family or that she is the one who chose Meri's birthday as their wedding date. After all the lies Kody had told over the years, I take anything he says with a whole box of salt.
I am looking forward to your analysis of all the Sister Wives episodes. Wonderful idea. Thank you for sharing your thoughts and knowledge
Thank you for watching and supporting the channel. I appreciate it.
I almost spit out my yogurt at the beginning when you talked about Kody and the trees. 😂🤣 James on here with the factual jokes!
Kody desperately wanted each of the women settle. Then he could give his bare minimum. All the while continuing to use them for financial support. He and Robin both need to continue their lifestyle.
Your calling in life is meant to be a life coach. Never settle or be the person someone is settling for. Real truth. No idea Kody didn't grow up polygamous. No wonder why it is epically falling apart.
You are so on target James! We are treated the way we allow them to treat us. I can only imagine the low self esteem the first 3 wives had, to get roped in by Cody. They were brainwashed from childhood that they didn't deserve better.
James, very wise words. So true. Never settle...... It always come back to haunt you.
OMG trees is cracking me up!
Your videos are great. My husband and I both enjoy them - such great analysis! Thank you!
Awesome! Thank you!
Good analysis. I think when he met Mary at 20 and married I think at 22...he did have some attraction for her and felt some excitement for her but it dwindled down quickly....or whenever. But he never had feelings for the other two....Janelle had a house and Christine was more royalty, as you said. He was young and dumb....marrying so many I think all before he was 25 or 26. Then he had all these children and all were stuck.
Love the intro! Enjoy seeing your channel grow!
I remember watching the first Season and I didn't like Robyn. I felt she wasn't a good fit for the family.
Great insights. It's better, and less lonely, to be single than be with the wrong person. At least as a single person you have more time for friendships.
Your videos are LOADED with great advice. I enjoy watching, thank you!
Absolutely agree 💯 , Kody treats Robyn differently because he is in love with her . Very easy to see the differences , manly where he spends his time and devotes his energy to.
I think it's more lust. And that she seems to stroke his ego.
Robyn treats Kody like her "best customer."
@@karolegrano5942 Robyn "seduced" her first husband and did the same with Kody. That story about Preston stealing her purity was BS. Preston wanted Robyn's sister, Fawn, not Robyn, but she got pregnant, so he did the right thing, and married her.
@@karolegrano5942 Yes. Imo, Kody's ego was inflated that Robyn would be attracted to him since he was like 10 years older. Imo, Robyn was probably more "experienced" in the boudoir seductively wearing her scanty Victoria's Secret lingerie. That inflated his manhood. I'm inclined to believe it is more lust than true love on his part. On her part, she said she would do whatever she had to do to provide security for her children. So telling.
@@jeliz9717 What does Fawn look like? Is she on any of the episodes? I had never heard this, interesting-
I think Kody did love Christine, despite his claims until she was no longer, light and easy, as Kody put it. Once she started to be concerned for herself and her treatment and her worth, that Kody felt differently.......
Yes, i 💯 agree with you👍
I would love to see your take on a series that got canceled after two seasons. “My five wives”. I found it on Amazon Prime
I disagree about Kody settling for Meri. I think he was in love with her.
I think so too. But the Peter Pans of the world are fickle now aren't they?
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Yeah, flashbacks...
Thanks James 💜💙
On point!
You will always get less then you settle for….Mr. James is soooo good, I enjoy his take on reality, but I equally enjoy his Nuggets of Wisdom and advice 😊❤
Excellent analysis
He “made sacrifices to love” Christine. But I don’t think it’s the same with Robin.
I love watching your videos 😊
Omg I freaking love this guy! Well spoken and to the point
Robyn grew up in polygamy too. I believe her mom didn’t live near the other wives and so in her day to day life she would have seen only monogamy. But she was technically raised in polygamy like Meri and Christine.
Yes. Her mom was the 3rd wife and told snobyn to always make the relationship like it's always the honeymoon stage. I do wonder if she always had a nanny or why does she not care for her own kids?!
You don't hear much about Robyn's background, so this is interesting-
As always, best take on On Sister wives goes to you.
Love you perspective.
“He’s genuinely attracted to her, and she’s genuinely attracted to him (for whatever reason)”. Not sure if you meant that to be funny but it gave me a laugh 😉 Very interesting take overall!
You gave the best advice here!
Mr. James you are one wise man sir. 👏 👏 👏. You should really look into being a motivational speaker.
Love your take❤❤❤❤
An inner faith preference limits your options, and very much so with this faith. They had to settle.
This was the advice I needed today. What's the respectful way of breaking up with someone you think you are settling for?
Honestly!
Yes, being honest and not holding them up to find someone that is right for them. I have done this twice, and although it's painful for both people, it's the right thing to do- especially if you're young. No regrets.
Still hanging in there with you James. Keep it up 😉
As for the trees, Kody worked in logging when he was younger. He seems the type to feel it was beneath him.
I feel Kodys thinking about dividing his time is flawed as it doesn't take into account the quality of the time spent with each spouse. If he is going to spend time reluctantly with a spouse while texting and phoning Robyn and being in a surly mood the whole time over just having to be there at all then it does not count as the same amount of time as that reflected on the clock OR the amount of time it feels like to kody.
Kody committed the crime, he should have done the time or set his victims free. Instead they freed themselves. All that is left to do now is get some justice.
I like hearing a man’s pov👍
Lol, Kody doesn't love anyone. Lol James, you're hilarious 😂!
Also what attracted Cody to Meri is she had her own house and Cody was homeless.
He was in love with Meri. What happened? I don't know. Maybe she only had one child. Maybe that she abused the kids. I totally agree that C and J were settled.
Kody loved Meri (and made her his favorite wife out of the first three) because SHE was 100% inlove with HIM! #egotistical
@@Avmuhammad64 That does make sense. Also, especially early on, Meri's houses weren't full of babies / kids all over the place screaming & crying. At Meri's and then Robyn's houses, he could relax. That's why Robyn had had the babysitters. Also, Robyn & Meri were both slender. I hate to say that, but there is some truth to it. With having so many children back to back like they did would wear their bodies out.
@@katherinechase3674 I believe you have something there!!
I really enjoy hearing your views about this family.
You know back in the early days I can't remember which season it is I'll have to watch back but there was a Time Janelle complain to Robin about using her time with Kody by always calling saying she had something she needed from him,to take him away.
When Kody's divorced Mary after Solomon was born so he could adopt ( allegedly) Robyns 3 older kid's Robyn offered to carry a baby for Meri ( which I believe Kody's would've never let happen) then Kody told Meri he. DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE A BABY WITH HER!!. Can't imagine the pain..then Mykelti had the audacity to blame Meri for the way Meri sought for some kind of acceptance from someone else, anyone else. Then to see Robyn giggling over her and Kody doing their taxes, something Meri used to do, in front of Meri !. I could feel the hurt Meri had to have had.
Truth is spoken here. James, you do have a very unique insight, in my opinion. Not only because of your training, I think sociology or social work…..? I forget, but I know you mentioned it once before. Additionally, you’re a male. Wondering, would you do a Q&A or maybe a Live soon? Would be cool for us to be able to chat with you. Thanks for your videos. My hubby and his enjoy them and we agree with your perspective. Take care!
P.S. Q&A about Sister Wives and your thoughts to questions. Thanks for your time.
Thanks for watching. To your question, yes I am currently in the process of trying to get set up to do live streams. Hopefully I can figure it out sooner rather than later.
gleefully rubbing my hands together.... Great we get your Take on Realty for early episodes...🍿🍿🍿🍿🥳🥳🥳🥳
I think I’m going to have your advice on settling tattooed on my forehead! LOL You are a wise man, James.
Kody hates trees?! Does he not know they provide oxygen for him???
Kotex is a narcissist. They CANNOT love anyone but themselves.
This is something I have been thinking about. I personally believe that Kody didn’t have the capacity to love the other wives the way he loves Robyn. I believe he just had a chance to fall in love with her. He only courted Christine and Janell for 2 weeks and two months. They barely saw one another between their first date and their weddings. He was friends with Meri for six months and basically got engaged on their first date. Kody also didn’t have much if any relationship experience. Kody DATED Robyn for six months before they got married. They were older. They both had kids, had been through some changes in life. They had a chance to get to know one another and fall in love.
I personally believe Christine is the love of his life. Meri said their relationship was the one that made her feel threatened. The way they were relaxed and easy going around one another. I think putting her down was his way of not making the other wives jealous. I also think this is why he was so mad she was leaving. I don’t think it was just his ego. I think she was something he loved and it was was being taken away. Instead of just being honest with Christine about his feelings.
Robyn knows how to manipulate Kody. I think if she didn’t he would treat her the way he treats the other wives.
From what I e heard Merri was aggressive/borderline abusive to Janelle & some of the kids.
I also felt like Kody had love and outward affection for Merri & Christine earlier on.
My boyfriends used to be part of the Mormon church (not polygamist ) … he has been out of the church over 40 years and these people still come to his house (even after moving over the years) and ask for him and want him to give money to the church.
My point is, the church will prey on kodys family for “contribution “ because they know there is money there.
Oh I forgot, If you are his partner or even living with him, they are also then getting your info as well.
@@kaylakramer7413 crap, hope not,I’m Episcopalian. I’m sure they would try to convert, lol. I just don’t understand why they can’t leave people alone who have left the church. More like a cult to keep coming after people.
@@ging-a-roo2429 They want to use it as a way to inflate/lie about the amount of member’s they have in their faith, they keep up with you to keep showing up and pressure you into again becoming an active member because the poor missionaries think it is their responsibilities to not give up on & to save & or convert people into “The One True Church”. The church does this to hopefully get you coming back as well as to literally harrass people to give because a lot of people who stop going keep paying & playing their games as a way to not loose their entire family, identies & culture & a lot of people do not stop giving money because they still love & support the church & hope it will evolve & they will then become active again, a lot of people donate because that is still what they feel is the right thing, other’s due to the culture & the way thing’s are out there decide to just pay so as to not upset anyone & the list continues. It is a sad sick game, a cult, a sham & just so many bad dark thing’s I could literally write a series of books & still never finish fully explaining & stating fact’s about them. Everyone would be so much better off if they would just admit they have all been fooled & then share & admit the truth they have hid & have proof of for many years & to just even say it was new thing’s & several investigation’s later proved it was a cult & everyone would definately fespect them more & many would be better off. However they will not as the church runs the state & is envolved in every decision & move & they make way too much money to stop the culty scam now. Sickining, they should all be prosecuted for the criminal orginazation they are (those who are in the know or those whom let it control the state affairs) however it is never going to happen where everyone would be charged because how do they prove it & no one will go up against them because of their status, we allow many religious organization’s to do this however Utah is the most extreme example I have ever researched or been told of (as far as controlling an entire state & it’s affair’s). Many describe Utah alone as such a backward’s & culturally different place than anywhere in the U.S. & people have explained how it has damaged them in so many way’s it’s unreal, the state of Utah has more prescription’s of antidepresant’s written in the nation, more mental health problem’s than anwhere in the U.S. with more than 30% of it’s resident’s having mental health problem’s, as of 2021 there were 550,000 adult’s with at least one mental health disorder & that is more than 2 times the entire population of Salt Lake City. I could also keep listing fact’s actual statistic’s but you understand. Also the church pay’s to put their website’s all over google flooding it with their narrative so a lot of people from the church use it to stay blinded by lie’s but the truth is all over as well however a person must be strong enough to believe fact’s versus all the church site’s & whatever narrative’s they wanna control & they also have to want to listen & indoctrination is strong & if that is what one live’s all their life or even for some of it they tend to unfortunately only listen to the church. It is all just so terribly sad, but hell look at scientology, arguably the most corrupt & criminal enterprise & the government knows & has been a victim of their attack’s but they still turn a blind eye to it & allow it to continue.
@@kaylakramer7413 Indoctrination is a huge word! Everything you wrote was very informative. There are many religions that are cults. It’s just a shame that so many are able to be sucked in. What makes me sad is that the two young girls that came to the door had name tags on and were dressed as adults. I didn’t notice a car but would have liked to see who brought them to the house.
@@ging-a-roo2429 That is sad & terribly frightening no kids should be doing door to door without an adult ever! Blows my mind they allow & think it ok to send children, teen’s or even young impressionable adults. However I see people saying they get children or young people coming from the church. Here in Florida they do not even allow door fundraisers from school to go door to door, most do not do fundraisers & when I was young (34 now) we had to alway’s bring an adult then we went & to be sure you never go inside to then banning door to door & before 2007 when I graduated fundraising was completely cut out door to door. Just too many thing’s could & did happen on occasion.
I believe that Kody did genuinely have affection and care for all of his wives at some point, however all of the relationships lacked the foundation of faithfulness and loyalty that should be expected in relationships. It is not normal to always feel in competition with other women and jockey for position with a husband, there will always be a crack there that will get bigger over time.
Kody's father converted to the AUB and took more wives during his adolescence, so he was semi brought up in it. Funny thing, though random lol but Janelle was married to Meri's brother before divorcing him to marry Kody and do plural marriage. Also, Janelle's mother ended up joining a plural marriage with Kody's father. But Janelle was not raised in polygamy. Polygamist family trees are more like a bramble bush lol
Kody was 19 when his dad converted to polygamy
@@kaylabryson1932 lol I didn't know the exact year, I knew it was in his teens though. It was after his mission trip, right? I've been looking at the book they wrote years ago and some of the stuff they say in there kind of bumps with some things they have said since lol. Kody especially has kind of a tendency to alter history lol
No James the reason why Mary and Janelle did not get along had nothing to do with the fact that Janelle didn’t understand how this works or doesn’t work I mean it doesn’t take it rocket scientist to figure out how it works. It was all about the fact that Janelle and Cody started talking about bringing Janelle into the family Behind Mary’s back Janelle having feelings for Mary when Mary brought Cody home to introduce to her family, which at that time included her sister-in-law Janelle so it was the fact that it probably caught her offguard that her sister-in-law or ex sister-in-law wanted to join her family, but the fact that it was also done secretly behind Mary’s back… Very similar to how Robin came into the family Minus the wife being around to facilitate “facilitate“ because I still don’t believe that Cody and Robin didn’t run into each other before hand and then just acted like they never met… Because Janelle and Mary were friends they got along well when they were sister-in-law‘s, they even got along well when Janelle and Adam got divorced it wasn’t until it was done sneaky way I mean it was betrayal. And I think on top of all of that bringing in that first wife into an already established relationship always going to be rocky. I mean this is why Christine never wanted to be a second wife she did not want to Bar on a monogamous relationship and the way that Cody and Janelle had gone about talking about Janelle coming into the family and I’m getting married and all that I think that was hurt. Never mind the fact that Cody and Jenelle wanted to get married on Mary’s birthday… Who does that?! That was messed up on top of everything else now you’re going to be like oh let’s get married on Mary’s birthday that sounds like a good idea and the fact that that didn’t change until Cody‘s mom talked him out of it, like Janelle was never like oh you know this probably hard on her as it is we were kind of sneaky talking to each other like that so maybe we shouldn’t then get married on her birthday. I think Mary felt very out of control and such a big part of her life, she had no control in… Like her love life she couldn’t control the fact that her husband was bringing other women, marrying other women sleeping with other women having children with other women… And there was like a three year. Where it was just Marie and Cody and they were trying to have a baby and then Janelle comes in and gets pregnant almost right away because there was barely a year in between Janelle getting married to Cody and Christine Marie and Cody, but all of these things that happened that caused Mary to feel so betrayed by Janelle aren’t things that only a polygamist person who grew up in polygamy would know is just wrong. I love Janelle Janelle’s one of my favorites. I think that she is just the complete opposite of me, you know my opinions everything that comes into my head comes out of my mouth if I don’t do something you damn well will know about it and if I don’t like someone there will be no questioning how I feel about that person and I’m also not wanting to just keep my mouth shut… It has gotten me in trouble my entire life. My whole entire life, so I appreciate people who are opposite of me. You know the chill laid-back go with the flow not going to show everyone my emotions type of a person because even if I’m not saying how I’m feeling in that very second my face says it all, but anyway, Janelle was dead wrong for how she came into the family, I mean, she even said that the minute that she met, which was when she was still married and in a full relationship with Adam, they were not separated. They were not divorced yet. They were still together as a couple that she felt like coming home and not for nothing. I just don’t understand why if Janelle wanted to come into the family why would you not have gone to your friend? This is the one that you’ve been friends with for years at this point this was someone who was your sister-in-law… and again it has nothing to do with if you grew up in polygamy and you understand the etiquette or whatever I mean, it’s a common sense type of thing. Plus, a fact that if you wanted to join this family, why wouldn’t you have gone to your friend someone that you’ve been friends with for years someone who was your sister-in-law for years, and listen I think that I am supposed to be a part of your family. This is how I’m feeling… It may have been an awkward conversation, but the fact that it was always known that Cody and Mary were planning on taking more wives and being a plural family, it’s not like you know monogamous couple being like I think I want to be a throuple with you.
I think Janelle was dead wrong in that situation and that is why her and Mary were never able to get back onto the same page because that foundation of a relationship as a sister wife was built upon betrayal .
That is just my opinion
James! 😁👋🏼☺️
There's one big reason Kody is attractive to Robyn & why Robyn feels superior to the other wives, to comes down to one thing and that's one simple act that she has in common with your local ladies of the evening, it starts with a B* and she knows the other wives no longer partake so she' s the game player, not Christine.
You could actually place a picture of Kody into the DSM 5 in the section of Narcissist Personality Disorder. Robyn should run. Grey rock or no contact is the only way to stop the abuse of these people. It's pathetic that TLC is giving him a salary and public platform. Dream come true for a NPD. Neverending supply.
You'd make a good counselor or social worker or something where you give people advice 😊 I wish you could be my life coach or something as well 😂
Wow, thank you!
In regards to Meri and Janelle not getting along initially- I do not believe Meri took her by the hand and gently guided her along! Also, Janelle is bright. I could see her actively reading the spiritual literature at church, learning about plural marriage. These 3 were in a small trailer all together with thin walls. Meri was married to Kody, for a good (sexually active) year before Janelle came along. I think Meri knew the rulebook, tossed it into the trash, and made a more demur Janelles life a living hell! They took Janelle's financial contribution, and left Janelle sitting in a trailer by herself, while they went on vacation after vacation after quitting jobs frivolously. I do believe Meri and Kody initially were in love, with passion, before there were children, & no real financial concerns. That's how Kody rolls. He wants no stress, and life to be easy breezy. Both Meri and Robyn figured that out fast!
And now the very same dynamic is happening all over again, with Robyn at the helm! Thirty years later and she is back to humiliating square one. Janelle is intelligent with her finances, but is not exactly street smart! She gave her "best friend" Kody waaay more credit than he ever deserved! He views Janelle as his little buddy to this day, that rat! And Meri was strung along as well, always secretly hoping, because she had Kody's heart once, she may again. He had to tell her directly, that no, that was never going to happen again. Imo, it's especially tourcherous b/c after all these years, and all her devotion (finding him Robyn) she is left flat- period.
Christine wanted to be the last wife the favorite 😆 but now Robyn is
Exactly. We should dive into that. How Meri must have felt when Christine joined the family for example. It's probably in their book but I haven't read it.
I like your new intro!
I feel like everyone has been known this stuff but clearly not …. Mari was so upset about Robin coming into the family and having such a problem with it that before Robin and Kody even got engaged the 3 of them had to go to therapy together.
Exactly! The elders fail at leading this life choice. But I don’t think Kody would listen anyway. Kody did this for all selfish reasons. He “gave” these women an opportunity to live the principle. They are ungrateful now. He did his “duty”. Now they should honor him. Remember: “they wanted the man, not the family” he performed, the act was easy. Lying is not a problem in their religion. Kids are taught to lie immediately about how they live. Lying comes easier over time, once it’s allowed.
It began with Raunchy Robyn.
Or... it began with Kody.
“This guy cannot just STAND to see a tree standing!”
🤣🤣🤣had me dyin, I can’t. It’s so true tho. MormOns have a wierd anti nature-“we have dominion over the whole earth and don’t need to take care of it if we don’t want” kind of ethos. Becomes really evident if you ever visit Utah. Especially SLC, Provo, Bountiful, and all them towns.
LOL. Thanks for the insight, that helps to clear things up.
That's so baloney. We are not anti nature.
Id have liked to see Kody and Meri when they started out bc you get gimpses of them sometimes, and I think they were really good friends. They play well off each other, find the other funny..i think maybe Kody didn't let himself fall in love w her...
I don't agree that Kody wasn't in love with Meri (especially), Janelle and Christine. The difference is that we're seeing his relationship with Robyn from the start. Compared to seeing his relationship with his three wives after 16+ years of marriage. Of course it's going to look different. They're all way past the honeymoon stage. And Christine married Kody while Janelle was pregnant. Why was it OK for Kody & Christine to do that to Janelle but not ok when he and Robyn turn around and do it to Christine? (I don't think either is ok btw).
I think Robyn settled for Kody and now has cost him his whole family. From what her ex husband family says she wanted fame not him. Karma now all those women who truly loved Kody have left and all that left is the one using him.
Narcissist do not love.
James you got it🦋😻😉☺️