Did We Make The Right Choice? | Installing The Toilet In Our DIY RV
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- Опубликовано: 9 дек 2020
- Converting a 2015 Ram into the ultimate off the grid camper. In this episode we start building out the bathroom and install our toilet!
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As far as emptying the cassette, I found if you do it about 3:00 am and being quiet, works great.
My recommendation for dumping the cassette.
1. Walk with confidence
2. Carry it vs roll it if possible
3. Port a poties are awesome
4. Your sewer clean out at the house outside works really well
Thanks Paul, those are awesome tips!!
These are great build videos have watched episodes 1 to 7 so far and very impressed with the quality of the build.
Thanks Garry! It has been really fun sharing our build with you guys.
Go the oodie Courtney! They are sooo comfy. Glad I found you guys. Thanks for sharing. You are both inspirational 👍🇦🇺
That's an awesome build
I sure hope that tank/water line don't freeze. I've had to deal with that many times in real cold temps. In Northern BC I resorted to putting my sewer hose over the exhaust pipe to run hot exhaust over the dump tank valve and defrost it enough to open. Keep rocking!
We’ve got a few contingency plans in the event we have an issue. Thanks for watching!
When I first began watching I never expected you two to be building a truck so amazing. I build like a carpenter cause I am. You build like fabricators.
Thank you very much!
Water proof flooring means that the product is not damaged by water, not that the joints are water tights. Likely not an issue, but be prepared.
This particular flooring was rated for standing water but we shall see! Luckily it can easily be replaced should an issue arise.
@@AmbitionStrikes Cool. You are likely not to be in there for long enough for it to be an issue. When I shower in my RV it is a brief encounter. The design and fabrication work thus far has been excellent. Press on.
You should add liquid flash in the hole of the composite panel. If you don't, an eventual leak will occur and water will go in between your panel. Doing the flash will have any leak pass directly through to the inside so you can see a leak vice having it hidden for a long time possibly.
Thanks for tip!
Your skillset is way beyond the average DIY you guys are amazing workmanship is beyond words
Thanks Doug! We have really been enjoying combing so many skills on this build.
For dumping waste, we have had a lot of luck with using vault toilets at national parks, or the family bathrooms of rest stops. Those only have one toilet, one sink and one door so you can take care of business with privacy. Also, it might be too late, but I would have kept water lines in a more insulated area. Putting them in the wall, if they freeze you won't be able to thaw them from the inside .
Thanks for the tips! We actually wrapped the water line in insulation before inserting in the wall and the cubby will be insulated as well, so we don’t have any major concerns with freezing.
Thanks guys. Have now watched all of your van build vids up to 31/12/20. Just got to say Riley, that's the best collection of t-shirts by one person in a long time. Keep going!
Thanks for watching Charles! Riley is amazed and impressed you noticed all of his shirts 😂
The shower looks great! I have never found cassette toilets useful, they are always a pain to empty and a stinky mess. What works for me is a 5 gallon bucket lined with a trash bag for solids, and a dollar store plastic jug with screw on lid for liquids (admittedly less convenient for girls). The solids go in a dumpster, the liquids get flushed down a public toilet. I made a cabinet to hold both to keep them from spilling.
Thanks for the input! There are definitely quite a few options out there and we are still trying to find what works for us 🤙🏻
5:58 Now we know why she loves him, not just because he is a handy man but he is also packing the heat LOL.
He is very handy!
Just found your channel! Definitely subscribed! You guys are building the coolest rig out there!
Thanks for subscribing Ryan!
Too cute. Concerns about the two corners where the loft meet the front wall. It seems that area is a hard 90 for air flow? Anxious to see the end. Thanks for sharing
These guys are geniuses! And this girl Rocks!!!! Hope you keep the videos with the adventures
Thanks for subscribing and follow along Richard!
That’s awesome no possible way of mess inside 👌👍 nice work
Yes and very easy to dump! No need to wait in an RV dump line.
Just waw fabrication skills blows my mind
Teach me master 🙌
Only one way to learn! Thanks for watching ☺️
The cassette toilet was def the way to go. Gives you the option if you wanted, to have a larger gray or fresh water tank. Lots of places to dump them so no worries. Going through Texas not long ago we noticed most rest stops had dump stations. We have a small tear drop and have a normal toilet but had we had any say in the design, we would have opted for a cassette and added a larger fresh water tank.
Yes we have found that a lot of the RV dump stations in NV/UT/CO are closed in winter! It has been awesome to be able to just use any old bathroom to dump the cassette!
Another awesome informative video!!! Riley has mad skills👍👍👍
Yes he does! Thank you for subscribing!
There is a product soon to be released called The Americanizer to help with emptying these Thetford cassette holding tanks. Go to RUclipsr The Fit RV and look for the Americanizer for more details. It is an adapter used to empty these tanks using a standard RV sewer hose.
Very interesting, we’ll have to check it out!
Those steps are pretty nice. Great work.
Emptying the Thetford tank always felt like a walk of shame
I have been watching you in Idaho all along but just now going through the camper build. I know I am late in the game so someone may have already suggested that you make a label for your waste tank to make it blend in better, SAMSONITE!
Great update !! And I like the flip-up door better than a 90-degree swing door :) always better to be different... Who needs directions? They are over rated !!
Riley refers to directions as “another man’s opinion”. 😂
@@AmbitionStrikes I always tell my wife directions are for the weak !! ;)
Y'all got some talent awesome work!
Complimenti, davvero un ottimo lavoro 👍👍👍
Thank you for the compliment!
You guys do amazing work
Thanks Kevin! Happy New Year!
You should do a recirculating shower, because I’m curious about them. Imagine being able to take a long hot shower every day at JV!
I just watched a video of an RV manufacturer who offers recirculating showers. It seemed like a complicated and bulky system but man would that be cool to have infinity showers in the desert!
In at 3k subs!! This channel is going to be pushing a mill by this time next year!
Holy cow that would be insane! Thanks for subscribing and following along!
@@AmbitionStrikes thanks for creating an awesome channel! You got this!
You guys do some amazing quality work ! Just found your built
Thanks for watching James!
Fluffy jacket!!! I’m really loving your videos!
Thank you for watching!
Can't wait to take a shower in there after a long day on the slopes!
We should probably get the water heater installed first! ;)
I'm hooked. Great work!
Thank you!
Look forward to seeing you guys adventures once you are all done with this beauty! I am sure you've been told you look like Kristen Wiig and even your voice.
Thanks for following along Toby! We are getting very eager to take this thing on an adventure.
The best way to dump those things is to make people not see them as you walk by. I recommend wearing a top hat and a monocle while dumping it. Just class it right up, making dumping your own poo from a poo suitcase the most uppercrust thing to do.
Anything done while wearing a top hat is classy right? 😂
Finally you use a hole saw!!!
They sure are great for cutting big holes in things!
Dude you guy's rock 🎅🎄
Thanks and happy holidays!
You guys are pretty damn smart! Great engineering!
Thank you!
Be careful of the MaxxAir Fans. Humidity, if any, will corrode the internal circuit board of the fan. Everlanders, on RUclips, did a video explaining this. To prevent the circuit board from succumbing to moisture, he sprays the board with " conformal spray, a clear coat to prevent oxidation and if there is an electronic working ribbon in your fans, put some silicone at the point where it meets the board as a preventative also. MaxxAir does know of this design defect but why would they change it?? They sell more parts and fans that way. Awesome Build BTW. My back is so limiting. I would come on out and help you guys, more like get in the way, LOL, but if the surgery in NYC goes well, who knows?? I miss the snow and fresh air of the North. 10+ years here in FL and watching your videos makes me wish that I bought the acres up there 4 years ago. Ah to be young energetic and healthy. Never criticism, just jealous helpful ideas.
We haven't had any issues, but we have watched that Everlander video. Thanks for the heads up!
I have been binge watching your build and all I can say is you guys make it look too easy. I would have lost my cool and probably drove my marriage off a cliff. Props to you guys.
Thank you so much for watching the series! It’s not always easy working together but it is incredibly rewarding!
take spring type clothes pin with when dumping cassette
Hi Ron! What do you do with the clothes pin?
wow getting good at this . nice tools
Thanks!
Great work. Kinda dark walls though.
cassette toilets are a little pain. but they work. i dont know, thats all ive used. but carrying and emptying them is a chore. i think i want to switch to a tank... emptying less often and not having to carry a cassette. but your access from outside is awesome! maybe thats all i need ;)
We have always found it annoying to find and wait in RV dump lines. We are hopeful that this will be a more convenient option, but only time will tell!
@@AmbitionStrikes yea since im not faniliar with that, i never knew! but its not crowded here. do you end up walking through their s#!t at dump stations?! newbies spilling it everywhere! well, your access door is worth it.
@@d-arts7139 Yes the stations are always quite rank, but it can be entertaining to watch a couple dump their new trailer for the first time 🤣
@@AmbitionStrikes entertaining lol you went the right route!
youve got some awesome machinery! cnc plasma and bender. and cad or whatever! you two can make anything! incredible fabrication
That is AWESOME! I can’t believe you learned how to do all this stuff from RUclips videos. Fess up, what’s your secret.😂
Riley has a degree in manufacturing engineering but the rest is self taught! There is a lot of trial and error 😉
Like nike..... ” Just do it ”
Wow! Nice video
Thanks!
Don't plan on using it when freezing out. Nice that you put in in wall. But it will freeze
We've been down to sustained -12F with no freezing issues. 😊
Hi guys! We've been watching you for a couple years. Yesterday our daughter moved into our RV and it is SO FAR from our septic clean out and it just seems easier to have a different toilet. Then we thought, "Hey Courtney and Riley have a cassette toilet. Wonder what kind they have?" I mean, the control board "broke" last month, but now we know how to fix that! Ha! Can you tell us which toilet you bought?
Hi Melissa! We have the Thetford cassette toilet (our specific model is no longer available). For just 1 or 2 people it is definitely the simplest/easiest/cheapest way to have a flushing toilet!
Bravi. Bel lavoro
Thank you!
Great video. You have really inspired me to try and do something similar, but smaller.
One question, at 5:21 I can see where you cut the foam back away from the plywood inner panel. It looks like the adhesive is untouched and no sign of foam remnants. How well did the plywood bond to the foam?
It is a bit deceiving on camera but the foam had to be mechanically separated from the glue and very small remnants of foam were left behind (meaning the foam was the failure point, as expected).
That flooring is designed to resist spills not build showers
Based on my research it is able to be fully submerged in water for weeks with no warping or discoloration. As it is being used in a vertical application we do not have any concerns, but it was designed in a way that it could be replaced down the road should any issues arise.
man you've got so many tools! wish I had half of that. I sub'd because I'm undecided about doing a van build or doing your kind of build. Maybe you could do a video on why you went with this compared to a 4x4 van? Cheers!
That is a great video idea! We have had a few vans in the past and there are definitely benefits to each. I will add it to my video list!
You haven't put in hot water yet, I can tell you of a new way I came up with for hot water, as done the usual way I don't take shower often and I remember the water in the line get stagnant. And I came up with a new way. It's also has a water mister line also for summer and it will mist behind my fan and I got a special off and on switch that you can adjust the seconds of both.
But, when I want a shower I put a 1- 1/2 can on the stove shower water. Iabove there 2 holes hiden in the cabinet. I put down one holes to fill it with water . Abouve the cabinet I have a garden Y adapter with off & on valve water both side. To take hot water from the can or to take water from my water tank it connected to the intake of pump.. So after I fill it. I push it back up and pull the other hose down suck water to the pump. .that line also has a shower hoses you plug in & turn to lock and take off. After that I have a valve off or on to my mister hose.
It's work wonderful, and it keep all water in the line fresh. This is a manual propane hot water shower. LOL and my rv only has 6 gallon water tank by the passenger seat. LOL
My pump is above the cabinet and a eBay only on after the pressure drops.
Toilet it's not fancy, but work perfect. Get this toilet at amazon.
www.amazon.com/Stansport-273-100-Portable-Camp-Toilet/dp/B00571QERU
Why? Because for girls you take out the bucket and you can put the cooler underneath and the seat fit perfect down to pee.
www.walmart.com/ip/Coleman-Half-Gallon-Thermos-Jug-Portable-Insulated-Blue/35235577?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1122&&adid=22222222227023348897&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=t&wl3=40970416712&wl4=pla-78913284272&wl5=9032816&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=101593696&wl11=online&wl12=35235577&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAiA25v_BRBNEiwAZb4-ZXBTZLcQQ_O6lk_X2mW_Z6sZsQM2y4CLxWTVDBZxP0NN9G9sK6ddtxoCYZAQAvD_BwE
Why empty your pee in a cooler? People think it juice. LOL
Here the bags
www.walmart.com/ip/Color-Scents-Small-Trash-Bags-4-Gallon-80-Bags-Twist-Tie-Lavender-Scent/339479948?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=t&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=9032816&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=339479948&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAiA25v_BRBNEiwAZb4-ZUmR2rewZAzHg1wq_Q7RiFryG3QZT_SngJcX-XXCoGPCuuvOnwXO1BoCn80QAvD_BwE
You put a sheet of magazine at the bottom in the bag so you never feel it and I love this toilet as with the bags you smelll nothing and you throw it away morning in with your trash bag. So simple
Thanks for sharing how you do your hot water! That is a great idea to use your stove to heat hot water when you occasionally need it. We are planning to use a hydronic water system so that we do not have to carry propane!
Awesome couple you two are. Amazing build. One quick - with all your amazing ability here; instead of having that bathroom vent/fan/light topside/outside be the plastic unit that weathers poorly and fades (likely becoming brittle over time); why not construct an aluminum cover that is vented, takes the abuse well, and looks awesome. This would also serve as a secondary level of waterproofing of this area of roof, and generally look like a million bucks. Just sayin. peace
Thanks for watching Michael! We actually have plans to make something like you mentioned but we want to wait until we have the solar panels mounted!
Once again, I am very impressed with yalls craftmanship and metal skills. Not only are yall making everything very functional, yall are making it the same quality you would see produced by Earthroamer. For the bathroom, Do you plan to use a 12V water heater or will it be fuel based? Also does the toilet have a rating on how many time it could be used before needing to be emptied? Thank you!
Thank you! It is hard to find a balance of practical yet luxurious. We are using a marine water heater that uses an auxiliary coolant loop off the truck, but also has a backup 12V heating element. I’m not sure on the toilet rating, we’ll have to give you an update once we are living in it!
@@AmbitionStrikes Awesome , Thank you!
Great job... I really like your plan of buying a brake to bend the metal for trim and the floor pan and then sell it after the build. Did you end up welding the corners of the shower pan and welding a flange for the drain?
Thanks Gregory! If we had more space we would keep the brake because I think Riley has gotten quite accustomed to fabricating with it... 😉 The corners of the shower pan are braised and the drain is just screwed together like a normal shower drain through a hole in the floor of the pan.
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I am working on adding translations to all of our videos!
I love your design so far, but I am a bit concerned with that water line so close to the outside elements for those times you may go into colder environments.
Additional insulation is going to be added to the toilet box, and we will be ducting heated air into the bathroom. If that was a major concern though I would definitely recommend a different model toilet that is fully inside the camper!
@@AmbitionStrikes what I meant was that the water line you ran in the exterior wall has little to no insulation between it and the outside elements, leaving it prone to exposure from them. In construction, you're never supposed to have any plumbing on exterior walls for this reason. Not sure if the same applies, just wanted to let you know. :-)
@@downbytheriver501 We wrapped the water line in insulation before pulling it through the wall to help with that concern. Worst case you could always use the shower wand to put some water in the toilet for a flush 🤙🏻.
@@AmbitionStrikes okay, glad to hear that! I was so worried, hahaha.
@@downbytheriver501 It’s nice to know we have people looking out for our toilet needs! 😂
The toilet looks like a Thetford C223-S cassette which I cannot find anywhere and everyone wants to sell me a "CS" the one with the wall mounted cover. I am wanting to save the room just as you have done with the smart idea of out the back. Where can I purchase one like the one you have shown here in the US. I did find one in the UK. Thanks Wayne
Hi Wayne! I believe our model was a 263 purchased from Great Lakes Skipper. It appears they no longer have them on their website but maybe they can still get them!
Thanks for the reply I appreciate it.
@@AmbitionStrikes Thanks again I am 25 miles from Great Lakes Skipper supply. You have a great build and the vids are informing.
The water pipe in the foam wall: might it freeze?
We wrapped the pipe in insulation before putting it through the wall... but worst case should it freeze you could always flush the toilet with the shower head!
Can’t you use antifreeze or windshield wiper fluid to flush when you are in sub-freezing temps since it’s a cassette toilet?
Very cool and informative! what is the area/dimensions of the toilet?
Very nice build so far.
where can i get the outside lights?
Thanks for watching! The outside porch lights are from www.superbrightleds.com and are the 4000k option!
Super build. What is the model No. for your toilet and where did you buy it? Thanks
It is a Thetford C263 from Great Lakes Skipper!
Seems like after you drilled out al the foam for the water line for the toilet that it’s now basically uninsulated and will freeze.
The water line was wrapped in insulation before we put it through the wall. Should it still freeze we can always flush the toilet with the shower head!
@@AmbitionStrikes as thorough as you’ve been so far I figured you’d have a solution.
Such a great idea! What about some kind of insulation?
Watch their other videos. The composite walls they made is the insulation.
The exterior walls are already insulated with the 1” foamular we used to make the panels.
I mean for the toilet. Camping in cold climates an insulated plug could help stop cold air coming thru the large hole in the back for the toilet
@@2aNomad Yes it will get insulated!
Did you insulate the add-on box for the back of the Thetford?
Good catch! That is still on our to do list.
@@AmbitionStrikes don't want that to freeze
Impressive workmanship 👍 what are the dimensions of your bath/toilet, and are you happy with the size? Trying to decide how much space to allocate for my bath 😀
Thank you! The bathroom is 36"x24" and it is plenty roomy for our intended use. However, we do have a very rare toilet model (so I have learned) that takes up significantly less space than others, and we are both narrow people. I think it really just depends on what is important to you, but for us it is the perfect size!
@@AmbitionStrikes not really sure I count as narrow, so theres that :)
As far as I can see from thetfords site, the C263 is 2cm deeper and 2cm narrower than the C223 I have (and I believe is readily available), so that part seems pretty comparable.
Thanks for the quick reply, and best of luck with the rest of the build :)
why did you choose dark color for shower area?
We thought it would look really nice with the other 2 stainless walls!
Do you have a link for the Toilet and teak shower pan piece?
We made the stainless shower pan our selves but here is a link to the wood mat we put inside:
amzn.to/2RNISCa
The toilet model we got is not longer available but here is the closet one we could find:
www.thetford.com/product/c220-cassette-toilets/
Can you shug the black cassette of the toilet on a backpack?
I'm not sure I understand your question?
I just found your videos. So, I have a question about what application to use for your designer.
Riley does all of his design work in Solidworks!
@@AmbitionStrikes thank you for replying so quickly.
Hello guys.
You already said but I could not see it. What toilet did you use for your project. Thanks
Hi there! We used a Thetford C263 but apparently it is no longer available...
Thank you Courtney for taking the time to reply. You are the best. 👍👍🙏🙏
Practice by using as your carry on.....lol
😂
Very smart build. I've enjoyed the process.
@@johnfarragher252 Thanks for following along John!
How is Riley so good at galling stainless steel?
He just wanted to use the angle grinder that day...
I think the stupidest thing is to cut such a hole in an insulated exterior wall and make a summer toilet at the same time. Or will the cassette and its contents not freeze in the winter? Or are you building a ultimate summer-only vehicle?
We’ve been in -7* F and haven’t had any issues with the water line or toilet contents freezing... 👍🏻
@@AmbitionStrikes Of course not, because there are some chemicals in the cassette or is there just water? And 2. heats your inside the outside through the cassette. Do a test in real minus conditions -20*C. On my balcony to the yard, the outside thermometer behind the insulation window glass shows 0, when outside on the streets is real -7. better insulate the steel with som armaflex.
@@felix.leiter We have to crack windows at night because the heater works too well... so not worried at all about a little thermal loss if it means we can have more room when showering!
Thetford C223-S Cassette Toilet?
It is the Thetford C263!
I figured he was an engineer of sorts.
We started an off-road fabrication shop right out of college and never looked back!
Slightly concerned about that toilet fill line being exposed to freezing temps.
We’ve been in sustained negatives (down to -12) with no issues! 🙌🏻
That’s quite impressive!
What is the model of toilet you got
It's a Thetford 263!
What is your vehicle weight when loaded with gear any everything?
Hi Jed! I will let you know once it is done and loaded with gear! Our best guess is somewhere in the ballpark of 10k.
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Thanks for taking the time to comment on each video, I really appreciate it!!
So you just take your poop for a walk!
Exactly! But don't tell our dogs because they LOVE walks and may get jealous... 😉
@@AmbitionStrikes Great videos, superb fabrication and design. Love it.
Would you call that a shit box?
Great 牛逼🐂👍
Thanks Steven!