Remove scale,remove liner and lanyardtube on one side clean and lube . Mount new scale then turn over and repeat after mounting the standoff.10 min and done,unless you change to aftermarket lockcage and ball.
Next time you have it apart, check for blade warp with a flat edge. The harder steel runs like Maxamet etc produced factory seconds due to warped blades.
@@doodysdaggersever so slight warp in my k390 endura wharnie makes it not centered. could likely be fixed with a carbide tipped hammer and a few gentle taps, but I haven't made one, and don't care that much.
Looks excellent! These have been on my radar for a while now for my manix, but mine is centered with the stock scales so I’m hoping when I do the swap it stays that way! This video will definitely help me get the job done so I thank you for that ahead of time!
This helped me. Because whenever scales are replaced there's a chance the blade may need to be recentered. ruclips.net/video/AvWqiHcuKg8/видео.htmlsi=lT819hITp983UP0H
Are you sure the pivot is fully seated on the captive side since you laid that scale on last? I usually start reassembly on that side to make sure. 🤷♂️
My manix was the same way, what I did to solve the issue was to hold the knife blade up, tip towards me in the closed position, push the blade to the right with the left thumb near the tip holding it through out the whole process, loosen all the screws in a counter clockwise direction starting with the bottom right side screw keeping pressure on the blade...now tighten the screws in the same counter clockwise direction...repeat this again while still maintaining pressure on the blade. What this does is aligns the pivot with the tip of the blade by slightly shifting the scales. If this does not work then the blade is truly bent. Hope this helps Kevin.
I’ve tried that. I’ve tried literally everything. Scoured the internet for answers and tried everything I could find. It’s gotta be the blade is slightly warped, that’s the only thing I can thing of at this point. I just let it go. Haha 🤷🏻♂️ Thanks buddy!
@@doodysdaggersMy cruwear blade has never been centered, so I'm not expecting miracles when I get my scales tomorrow! But if your blade was centered with your old scales, then you'd think it would be possible. I guess the liners probably allow for more adjustment.
Morning Dood! When I hit my washers I did it on a ceramic plate instead of a strop. It seemed to work well but I think I’ve only seen one person do it like that. Is the strop a better idea for washers than ceramic?
Those are nice scales, but I'm on the fence if I want aluminum. Love the color. Not sure if this works on Spyderco, but keeping the body screws loose until you tighten the pivot has worked for me on other knives to get a better center.
The aluminum feels great to me, but some people prefer micarta or something else. I have tried all kinds of tightening combinations, nothing works. I think it’s the blade itself that’s bent
Good video and thinking of doing the same. Did you really have to fully disassemble? Could you just remove the scale and liner from one side and then put on the new one? Flip over and do the other?
It has to come totally apart I think. But you could try doing one side then the other! I think because it’s a captured pivot it has to come all the way apart
What would you want for the old stock liners and G10 scales (I have the LW version with CQI hardware that’s removable-trying to put together the necessary pieces to upgrade the handle to the stock/regular configuration). Was that a second-maybe why it isn’t straight/centered? Thanks Doody
Nope it wasn’t a second. It’s gotta be the blade itself that’s tweaked. Hmm.. I supposed I could sell my liners and g10 scales. I’m trying to think if there’s any reason I would want them someday. I dunno, what’s a fair price?
@@hayden1590 No, I wasn’t aware of that (I was going to take mine apart tonight and compare it to the internals of the video). I thought the only thing I’d have to get beyond the scales/liners would be an aftermarket set of screws. Thanks for the info. Hopefully AWT will make a set for the Manix 2 LW (they make them for the Para3 LW so hopefully they’ll get around to it)…
If it’s your first time doing this, I HIGHLY recommend taping your knife blade before starting. This is going to prevent you from mangling your hand up!!
Thanks for the video. Quick question... what brand cork work mat? I like it. Also comment... like you ran into here, i have found the hardest part of reassembly is that it always takes me awhile to play around and get all the torqueing correct. Kind of like doing scope rings and how easy it is to throw off a point of aim. When i did this the first couple of times, i would loosen up those pivot screws and then be bummed by the screws being loose. Then it dawned on me, duh, tighten the back spacer screws to put more tension on the front. Same thing with centering. I realized that of it was off to the right, i had to tighten it to the right. Its like a mini lesson in geometry and patience everytime i do this.
The mat is from a site called Tinkerforce. Really cheap and quality disassembly mats. Yes there is a lot of tinkering when it comes to getting a knife with good action and no blade play 😁
Yeah it did work. It was slightly warped near the tip. I just took it very slowly. It was an S30V PM2. I wouldn’t take the same chance with a rare 15v manix though!
I’m thinking of buying a Manix and some standard Ti scales to swap out. Would I be able to do a swap with a light weight? Do the LW versions have liners in them?
that blade is definatly bent! i can see it on the vid when you were looking down the blade.those scales look awesome though! i have the lightweight (old version) and would love to drill out the rivits and put better scales on.
When I get my seconds delivered and my manix s110v is good I will be replacing the scales and ball cage. It will be my first time disassembling a manix or dealing with any Spyderco lanyard tube, I'm not really looking forward to it 😅
Nice!! You got it man. Just follow the instructions. And remember when you are reassembling, the blade goes in first before the ball cage lock mechanism 😉
Bro we are brothers from another mother. 😂 I just also got Awt manix2 scales. Got the violet purple to go with my black blade. They are so damn good I want some for my para 3. Blue looks sick but that sucks about the rattle. Mine are rock solid and centered. You might want to send back. I also installed flytanium aluminum ball cage. Hope u get it worked out.
Very nice! That’s weird yours doesn’t rattle. You got the stock plastic ball cage in there? But yeah aside from that I love these scales. The action improved drastically!
@@doodysdaggers no I bought a flytanium aluminum cage. I did have a little grittyness and took it back apart and polished the touch points where the cage rides and polished the washers and it is smooth as butter.
Hey bud...I've been racking my brain and the only thing I can think of is that one of the washers could be slightly thinner than the other one...hope this helps.
I have AWT scales for my para3 lightweight. They aren’t my favorite however they are a significant improvement over the lw scales. Pretty happy overall, I just like the feel of the peel ply g10 better
Great video Dood. The knife looks great. Respect. D p.s. as for that centering issue, you are going to have to take the tang of the blade to a lapping stone. Just a pass or two per side. Btw I fuckin HATE the way that clip sticks up past the butt of the knife.
Ah yeah good idea. Sounds like more trouble than it’s worth though, I can live with it being off center. That’s interesting you don’t like the clip that way, for me it’s great. Super deep carry. To each their own! 🤠
My AWT scales improved everything about my Manix 2, so much lighter, better action and lockup. Fantastic scales. That’s super weird that your cage is rattling! I don’t have any hint of rattle, that would bug the shit outta me!
Remove scale,remove liner and lanyardtube on one side clean and lube . Mount new scale then turn over and repeat after mounting the standoff.10 min and done,unless you change to aftermarket lockcage and ball.
Nice looking scales. Nice looking knife. I love videos that include disassembly and reassembly.
that mirror edge looks insane
Thanks for this, I’ve watched a few of these disassembly videos but this is the best. I’ll be ready to change my scales for sure now!
tried reassembling my FRN a bunch of times. now it clicks and I'm bleeding. videos like this are necessary.
Manix 2, the most recommended knife of all time! I will have one someday.
Pretty much yeah!! I’d say it may be one of the best knives ever
I was lost trying to swap out for awt scales. It was the assembly sequence that was hanging me up. But, now I am found thanks to your video!
Right on man I’m glad! That tripped me up the first few times too. But once you know you know! 🤠
Next time you have it apart, check for blade warp with a flat edge. The harder steel runs like Maxamet etc produced factory seconds due to warped blades.
Ah okay, so it’s common. Interesting
@@doodysdaggersever so slight warp in my k390 endura wharnie makes it not centered. could likely be fixed with a carbide tipped hammer and a few gentle taps, but I haven't made one, and don't care that much.
Looks excellent! These have been on my radar for a while now for my manix, but mine is centered with the stock scales so I’m hoping when I do the swap it stays that way! This video will definitely help me get the job done so I thank you for that ahead of time!
If it’s centered now it should definitely be centered with the new scales. 🤠
This helped me. Because whenever scales are replaced there's a chance the blade may need to be recentered.
ruclips.net/video/AvWqiHcuKg8/видео.htmlsi=lT819hITp983UP0H
Nicely polished edge.
This is going to be extremely helpful when I put my scales on thanks man!
No problem! The main thing is, when reassembling, blade on first, then the ball cage mechanism 😉
@@doodysdaggers I wrote it down for a memory refresher 😂
@@nickGEdc great idea, I should have done that from the beginning. It took me three or four times taking it apart for me to remember 😂
that blue is nice, modding my manix 2 as soon as it comes in.
that went pretty smooth
Not too bad!
Nice work! Looks great with new scales… probably the blade being your issue. 🤷🏼♂️ Thanks for sharing! Have a great day Doody!
Thanks! You too Mark, happy Monday!
These look good. I have the XL that could use a bit of weight reduction. I'll also upgrade the ball cage to titanium
It’s a great upgrade and makes the knife feel better too 😉
Are you sure the pivot is fully seated on the captive side since you laid that scale on last? I usually start reassembly on that side to make sure. 🤷♂️
Looks nice man. Sucks about the centering. My Manix and AWT scales should be here tomorrow!
My manix was the same way, what I did to solve the issue was to hold the knife blade up, tip towards me in the closed position, push the blade to the right with the left thumb near the tip holding it through out the whole process, loosen all the screws in a counter clockwise direction starting with the bottom right side screw keeping pressure on the blade...now tighten the screws in the same counter clockwise direction...repeat this again while still maintaining pressure on the blade. What this does is aligns the pivot with the tip of the blade by slightly shifting the scales.
If this does not work then the blade is truly bent.
Hope this helps Kevin.
I’ve tried that. I’ve tried literally everything. Scoured the internet for answers and tried everything I could find. It’s gotta be the blade is slightly warped, that’s the only thing I can thing of at this point. I just let it go. Haha 🤷🏻♂️
Thanks buddy!
Ok, got you.
@@doodysdaggersMy cruwear blade has never been centered, so I'm not expecting miracles when I get my scales tomorrow! But if your blade was centered with your old scales, then you'd think it would be possible. I guess the liners probably allow for more adjustment.
Morning Dood! When I hit my washers I did it on a ceramic plate instead of a strop. It seemed to work well but I think I’ve only seen one person do it like that. Is the strop a better idea for washers than ceramic?
I’ve never heard of anyone doing it on ceramic. I’d imagine it would work, but I think with a strop you’ll get a better polish
Those are nice scales, but I'm on the fence if I want aluminum. Love the color. Not sure if this works on Spyderco, but keeping the body screws loose until you tighten the pivot has worked for me on other knives to get a better center.
The aluminum feels great to me, but some people prefer micarta or something else. I have tried all kinds of tightening combinations, nothing works. I think it’s the blade itself that’s bent
Good video and thinking of doing the same. Did you really have to fully disassemble? Could you just remove the scale and liner from one side and then put on the new one? Flip over and do the other?
It has to come totally apart I think. But you could try doing one side then the other! I think because it’s a captured pivot it has to come all the way apart
What would you want for the old stock liners and G10 scales (I have the LW version with CQI hardware that’s removable-trying to put together the necessary pieces to upgrade the handle to the stock/regular configuration). Was that a second-maybe why it isn’t straight/centered? Thanks Doody
Nope it wasn’t a second. It’s gotta be the blade itself that’s tweaked.
Hmm.. I supposed I could sell my liners and g10 scales. I’m trying to think if there’s any reason I would want them someday.
I dunno, what’s a fair price?
If you don’t know already, the ball cage housing/blade stop is different in the LW models.
@@hayden1590 No, I wasn’t aware of that (I was going to take mine apart tonight and compare it to the internals of the video). I thought the only thing I’d have to get beyond the scales/liners would be an aftermarket set of screws. Thanks for the info. Hopefully AWT will make a set for the Manix 2 LW (they make them for the Para3 LW so hopefully they’ll get around to it)…
If it’s your first time doing this, I HIGHLY recommend taping your knife blade before starting. This is going to prevent you from mangling your hand up!!
Thanks for the video. Quick question... what brand cork work mat? I like it.
Also comment... like you ran into here, i have found the hardest part of reassembly is that it always takes me awhile to play around and get all the torqueing correct. Kind of like doing scope rings and how easy it is to throw off a point of aim. When i did this the first couple of times, i would loosen up those pivot screws and then be bummed by the screws being loose. Then it dawned on me, duh, tighten the back spacer screws to put more tension on the front. Same thing with centering. I realized that of it was off to the right, i had to tighten it to the right. Its like a mini lesson in geometry and patience everytime i do this.
The mat is from a site called Tinkerforce. Really cheap and quality disassembly mats.
Yes there is a lot of tinkering when it comes to getting a knife with good action and no blade play 😁
Will these work with the new light weight model? The new light weight got rid of the rivets.
I don’t think so, no. But AWT and OG Goat are working on compatible scales. So soon there will be some available
Been thinking about getting these. How have the scales held up? Any issues? I like these better than original goat versions
They’ve held up amazingly!! Highly recommend. I have AWT scales on five of my Spydercos
The idea of dofferent scales centering a blade is wild.
I had the same off center issue with a PM2 kev. I gave it a gentle tweek in the vice! 😂
Oh shit that’s scary! Haha
Did it work?
Yeah it did work. It was slightly warped near the tip. I just took it very slowly. It was an S30V PM2. I wouldn’t take the same chance with a rare 15v manix though!
@@Quagmire925 haha yeah I don’t think I’m gonna try that. I did it with a fixed blade I was making a while back and it snapped
I’m thinking of buying a Manix and some standard Ti scales to swap out. Would I be able to do a swap with a light weight? Do the LW versions have liners in them?
I don’t believe you can do scale swaps with the lightweight versions
Yep I found out they have riveting too haha so not gonna happen
@@Graham_Robany lightweight made within the last year or so has screws, no more rivets
If they replace the liners, would they fit the screw construction lw?
I’m not sure.. it should say on their website
Are those factory liners? I know for a while, manix 2s did not have drilled liners, is this an updated manix 2?
They’re the ones that came with it, I dunno 🤷🏻♂️
that blade is definatly bent! i can see it on the vid when you were looking down the blade.those scales look awesome though! i have the lightweight (old version) and would love to drill out the rivits and put better scales on.
Nice one !! those scales are looking badass. have you loosened the screws a bit to see if it centers a little better ?
Yeah I’ve messed with it, doesn’t do much
When I get my seconds delivered and my manix s110v is good I will be replacing the scales and ball cage. It will be my first time disassembling a manix or dealing with any Spyderco lanyard tube, I'm not really looking forward to it 😅
Nice!! You got it man. Just follow the instructions. And remember when you are reassembling, the blade goes in first before the ball cage lock mechanism 😉
Read my mind; this is exactly my plan for my seconds pickup
Bro we are brothers from another mother. 😂 I just also got Awt manix2 scales. Got the violet purple to go with my black blade. They are so damn good I want some for my para 3. Blue looks sick but that sucks about the rattle. Mine are rock solid and centered. You might want to send back. I also installed flytanium aluminum ball cage. Hope u get it worked out.
Very nice! That’s weird yours doesn’t rattle. You got the stock plastic ball cage in there?
But yeah aside from that I love these scales. The action improved drastically!
@@doodysdaggers no I bought a flytanium aluminum cage. I did have a little grittyness and took it back apart and polished the touch points where the cage rides and polished the washers and it is smooth as butter.
You have a warped blade if you use the side of your ruler and check both sides if the blade i bet you find a slight warp
My crucarta pm2 was off center and i just forcefully bent it lol guessing it was liners tho.
Haha that’s one way to do it!
@@doodysdaggers I thought it was crazy but seriously try it found it in a spyderco forum
I always start with the “D” shaped side of the knife when putting them back together. That way it’s already locked in from the beginning.
Hey bud...I've been racking my brain and the only thing I can think of is that one of the washers could be slightly thinner than the other one...hope this helps.
I actually switched the washers with each other, and it was still off center to the same side!
Is this the xl manix model? Blade looks big
No, the regular Manix
That corkboard is awesome. Can you Amazon that?
Tinkerforce.com
What’s the name on the colour of those scales.
Cobalt Blue I believe
@@doodysdaggers ok. Thanks a lot.
which lube do you use here and do you recommend it?
I was using TuffGlide in this video but now I use KPL. Both are great, I don’t notice a huge difference between the two
@@doodysdaggers thanks bro how about that cool work mat thing you got under your work station
Where were you able to pick this set up?
From Applied Weapons Tech website. AWT
THanks!
@@doodysdaggers
I would've got the rockscale ones but i never got out the barrel on my manix 😂
Haha it’s really tough!
I have 2 pm2s that will not center no mater what scales or liners i use on em a cru-wear and an m4 blade just live with it i guess
That sucks, yeah I think it’s the blade itself that’s actually bent slightly
I have AWT scales for my para3 lightweight. They aren’t my favorite however they are a significant improvement over the lw scales. Pretty happy overall, I just like the feel of the peel ply g10 better
Just take some 1000 grit to the one washers. Pretty easy fix Dood.
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Would you be interested in selling the old manix liners and scales ?
No, I actually recently changed the scales to ones that required the liners
Great video Dood. The knife looks great. Respect. D p.s. as for that centering issue, you are going to have to take the tang of the blade to a lapping stone. Just a pass or two per side. Btw I fuckin HATE the way that clip sticks up past the butt of the knife.
Ah yeah good idea. Sounds like more trouble than it’s worth though, I can live with it being off center.
That’s interesting you don’t like the clip that way, for me it’s great. Super deep carry. To each their own! 🤠
@@doodysdaggers yeah the clip sticking out further than the end of the scale makes my OCD very angry
Swap the washers to the other sides and itl probably center the blade
Tried it.. I came to the conclusion that the blade is warped
Could be ceramic ball bearing. I went back to original ball bearing and can’t complain
Spyderco uses phosphor bronze washers.... No bearings...
Could you peen the cage, to get rid of the rattle?
Hmm, maybe
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My AWT scales improved everything about my Manix 2, so much lighter, better action and lockup. Fantastic scales.
That’s super weird that your cage is rattling! I don’t have any hint of rattle, that would bug the shit outta me!
Okay that’s so weird! I’ve tried both the stock cage and my titanium scale from flytanium, both rattle
Blade it self, can be off as well.
Yeah that’s gotta be it
Spyderco can be good, but still its just production knife after all.@@doodysdaggers
Are you the first person in the world to disassemble a manix in a vehicle 🤔?
I'm going to say yes, unless someone else says otherwise 🤷😂.
I think I am! Nobody else has had the courage. 😉
@@doodysdaggers👍😂
Dood, one of the last views in the car when youre looking down on it with the blade open, it looks like the blade is slightly bent.
Oh yeah? Hmm. I can’t tell if it’s an optical illusion or something, but yeah it kinda looks tweaked to me too
How do you have a "knife channel" and not know how to center a folding knife blade??? It's real easy...
I’ve tried all the tricks, believe me
Loosen the body screws a bit
Maybe I should’ve watched the whole video first lol
😉😂
i will pass on those
First!!!!
Damn! ⭐️
Buy a new set of washers
Good idea