@@JustLiving-dg5by That's not quite what we meant...we're saying there are some women who think women (exclusively) are deserving of love, and men are not.
@@NewBetaMarioSeries And i said why would you care what women think or say? They think men don't deserve love? you are seeking love in a wrong place 😃👍 hope that helps
Black person here. Some of the most racist people I've encountered were black. Obviously not the only ones or even Uncle Ruckus levels but it's definitely there. I can't believe they actually said this in the show, especially with the supposedly "woke" character.
Fr I've yet to meet a single racist other race person (towards me) I was mocked last year for being "light skin" when I'm brown but everyone in my class was darker or white so I was an outcast from the other people of my race and the ones who didn't talk about me and hung out with me were people of other races you would think the tone of your skin wouldn't matter if we are the same race but I guess that didn't apply
hire me instead, i may have zero creativity but i dont lie when it comes to a topic like this this reminds me of the whole 'BLACK PEOPLE CANT MARRY WHITE PEOPLE' steven universe controversy
@@rayanna7188 No, it was something on the CN channel where two boys at a playground, one kid being white and one being black, say when they grow up, they want to get married. A third kid shows up and tells them they can't. When asked why they can't, he says, “Black people can't marry white people.” After he says that, Garnet shows up and tells the kids, “Kids, don't be racist.” That’s what I remember, you can the video here on RUclips if you want to see it for yourself.
Why? They’re literally trying to teach a lesson to kids that they can indeed be racist if black. That’s how kids shows work, the main character says some wrong shit and then the moral of the episode shows them the error of their ways.
@@Termina2018 why are you agreeing ??? You know that they’re saying that racism is something everyone executes ?? Racism is not something you just learn out of the blue , it’s taught by racists . If you unlearn racist behaviors , you can teach the next generation to not engage in racism . Racism is not a human trait !! It’s not in our biology or in our blood .
Assuming Prejudice + Power =racism (It doesn't btw) They would still be wrong, because if a white guy went to some place in Africa, were black people had majority power, are we to assume he can't be racist because his race doesn't have power there? I would assume this husk of a reboot would disagree and in turn contradict themselves.
@@karthikbalamurugan7390 "Some place in Africa?" Well guy who spends most of his days in wearing a white hood, if a white guy who believes he's superior to black people goes to "some place in Africa", preferably the part with blacks in it, and given whites and Europeans long history of destabilizing of Africa, he's a racist. Then again Maya is talking about American politics so this scenario is idiotic and asinine.
@@karthikbalamurugan7390that’s exactly what it is. Black people cant be racist unless they’re in Africa. Racism is quite literally a system perpetuated by prejudice
No such thing as a kids show nowadays lol except maybe Peanuts/Snoopy. All gotta insert their adult views somehow, like this, cocomelon or shazam 2 lol.
@@MrVariantkids shows have always had adult stuff/politics though, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny doing blackface or dressing up as Asians, characters being super patriotic, etc.
Wait let me get this straight. You're saying that this kid eyeballed your dad and immediately came to such a conclusion? Dear god... I hope he wasn't serious but something tells me he was
“Black people can’t be racist” … I was bullied by some black kids and they flipped the BIRD at me, referred to me as an “it” and not a human being, and told me straight to my face “I don’t associate myself with people like YOU.” And I’m Filipino. Yeah, black people can totally NOT be racist sometimes 😒
I can’t believe black people would down on you like that, coming from a black man myself who has a Filipino girlfriend, I’m sorry you had to deal with that.
Black people absolutely can be racist. I was a white Chinese girl in an all black and Latina/latino school. My siblings were black. These 3 girls harassed me the whole year and spread a rumor that I hated my sister because she’s black, saying how I believe I’m above everyone else because I’m white, and kept saying things like I’m slow and stupid because I’m white and I also failed my race because I’m Chinese and bad at math (I’m dyslexic.) my stepmom gave me box braids one day and the girls pulled at them saying I was appropriating their culture. I cried and took my hair out which took my stepmom 4 hours to do and she got mad at me, but I never told her why I did it.
This one black girl was harrassing me saying for me to go back to mexico 😭 and i legit told her to stop being rascit and she had the audacity to say “Black people cant be rascit we, we have the power and right to say what we want.” ☠️…
Black people can be racist, racism means prejudice or stereotypical definitions used to identify a race even if its disrespectful or ignorant. Literally any race can be racist.
I hate the argument that racism is 'prejudice PLUS power'. If you look down on anyone for their race, no matter the situation, it's racism. That being said systemic racism is through prejudice and power. And that does have an effect but anyone, no matter who they are or the color of their skin, can say and do racist things and essentially, be racist. That argument is just a way to excuse being a racist jerk and get away with it.
I don't think you necessarily have to look down on someone because of their race, to be racist. You can be racist for hating someone purely because of their race, whether you believe them to be above or below you.
@@XYZ_55 typically if someone is hating someone for their race, they believe theirs is better. If you think about a group you don't like and think they would be better if they acted more like you, that is still racism
Cause she follows the moronic logic that she explained here that's practiced by woke people everywhere. Also this show is just using the characters as vehicles to insert their own views and politics, they don't care about maintaining the essence of the originals.
I mean, she's like what, 12 in this scene?? If she actually learns something within the episode OR EVEN THE SEASON then it's good writing and character development.
Because black people do not benefit from the system of racism. Sure anyone can say petty comments but everyone doesn’t have a clear cut advantage from better jobs, schooling and housing opportunities
"Black people can't be racist" is actually funny in the context Penny uses it in. Unfortunately, Maya immediately ruins the joke by taking the statement seriously and trying to replace it with her own joke.
Ex-fucking-xactly. It would've ben funny if Penny said "black people cantbe racist!" And then someone corrected her and said "actually we can" but that wasnt the scene sadly
If someone told me "black people can't be racist because racism is prejudice AND power" I would never talk to them again. Anyone can be racist no matter their race or 'power'.
@@abigailc6873Can you rlly blame them, I ong hate the whole black people cant be racist garbage as a black person 🤦🏽♀️, anyone can be racist and that’s a fact, ppl need to stop changing the definition of racism
When a group of people are taught that it is impossible for them to be racist, that only gives them the incentive to be as racist as they possibly can.
This is why parents always need to monitor what their children look at... even the "kid shows." Because if they rely on television or internet to raise them instead, it's gonna lead to some disastrous consequences...
@@Termina2018 Actually, instead of parents forbidden their children to watch shows that can teach wrong lessons, they should let them watch it, but teach them that things are not like that and that they can't act that way. And kids don't repeat everything they see on TV. But I agree that "Black people can't be racist" thing is untrue.
I went to an all black school and there was this teacher I swear had it out for me. I always hated her, and she hated me. But one day she was telling a story about her trip to Japan and then began some weird things about the Japanese, and even went as far as to pull her eyes back and mock the way they speak. And once word of the pandemic got out, she had a few things to say…
@@treatyyum it just comes off as ignorant. Comments like these are made by idiots who will say they love everyone race equally but then will complain about wokeness and diversity. There was nothing in this vid that was untrue.
MLK has literally said the exact stuff the girl in the video did dude. He's more than just one quote. He said a lot of things you probably don't like actually. Like advocating for reparations and whatnot. Mayhaps you should read more about him than the single line he said, that's pushed by the whitewashed curriculum of the US school system.
@@tuckernutter Heck, it's not even revenge since many of the hurdles black people had to overcome back in his day were perpetuated by people who aren't around anymore. It's simple guilt by association that they try to gaslight white people into accepting.
It is funny because they did not even get the 'definition' correct. It is supposed to be "privilege plus power". Prejudice is the word they call their racism to make it sound better. 'Black people cannot be racist, only prejudiced' as if being prejudiced is any better.
"Racism is prejudice plus power" Umm...no? It's discrimination against someone for the color of their skin, no matter social, financial, or economic standing. Eugh. No wonder the reboot did so poorly. Some of the most racist people I've meet recently were black/indian (from India, not Native American).
racism is (ironically) all-inclusive. anyone of any skin color can be racist to anyone of any skin color. because racism does not require any power, it only requires prejudice.
@@sunnymaneConvenient of you to ignore the comments of people sharing their firsthand experiences with racism. Do you do this because you do not know how to gaslight them without being proven wrong?
The Proud Family literally stereotyped Aisans in the older show. They have worn (stereotype) regalia of a romanticized Powhatans child as a costume. They guilted Zoey because of her skin color, racism is racism.
I'm Asian. And when I was studying the UK international schools, there was one day where there is a school sponser spokeman, talking about how rhino horns are being poached ilegally, including by chinese people. And during then, on my dinner table, the white and black students stared at me with stern passive agressive eyes. I felt super uncomfortable, but I was more suprised than uncomfortable. These are the same black students that say that hate racist people, and will argue and defend against racism, including students who said the N word. There's like, a kazillion chinese people, and my family are from hong kong so me and my family have nothing to do with rhino horn poaching. I don't carry grudge, and they were around 15 years old at that time. But I'm sharing this story to let people know that anyone can be racist, unintentionally or intentionally.
look how you completely ignored the whites staring at you too, as if thats normal and not surprising lmaooooo maybe you are the racist one who purposefully focused on the black dude? ah yes of course, t=yall have a colorism issue in asia so im not surprised at all
I’m sorry you had to go through that, but you experience is definitely schooling everyone saying “black people can’t be racist because they don’t have systemic power.” And there are quite a few people saying that in these comments, funny how none of them responded to your actual account of racism. I hope you have a good day man
There are black and white poachers too. And the racists like to ignore that intentionally. I often hear people say racism against Asian isn’t actually racism. It only counts when black people is being discriminated against.
There's some irony too that that spokesman specifically singled out Chinese people, as if they alone are killing all of Africa's rhinos. That sounds racist to me, and then you can see the effects of that by how your classmates judged you. Nothing specifically racist was said, but think about that framing.
@@amycurtis535 That's true. I think the media and education only teaches white people to not be racist towards black people, especially the prohibit use of the n word. But when I scroll through instagram memes, i see comments flooding with the word 'ching chong'. And sometimes people make racist chinese noises to make fun of our language when i was explaining in chinese to someone. Why don't i see more anti asian racism videos in media? I think its because America really hates China due to being economic rivals. Though to be fair, there are quite a lot of local china people that are racist towards american people as well
As an Asian who was left to the mercy of severe bullying by black people because they knew they can get away with it because they were black. Penny’s statement is VERY false & ignorant.
I've been bullied, called "ching chong", go back to your country type shit, they made those chinky eyes and say we eat dogs while calling of us Chinese when we're not and ugly by many. Yeah, I feel you but they didn't "get away with it because they're black." But they're just bullies in general because most Asians are easier targets to make fun of since most Asians in my schools are often reserved or quiet. But there's some good and bad all around for sure.
I'm sorry you have to deal with that. Mixed people like us got nobody else. I'm too white to be accepted by Asians, I'm too Asian to be accepted by whites. Mixed might as well mean "mongrel", we're not even human to these people.
I was thinking exatly that. By Maya's logic, a white homeless man can go around shouting the n word and harrassing only black people, but he's not being racist, "just a jerk"
@@kou7191 by her logic the hypothetical white homeless man would still have power over a black billionnaire, regardless of difference in wealth. Because being white in itself is to be inherently more privileged, regardless of anything else.
@@spencerlively3049 The worst part is a later episode DOES lowkey imply that, when Barry was told to use his 'white privilege' instead of, you know, his actual authority as a cop.
@@kou7191what? A white man will always be given better housing schooling and job opportunities based on racism. Idk what being poor has to do with anything lol
Penny,honey. Anyone can be racist no matter what race they are just like how people can be targets for racism. Also Maya is very hard to side . I never liked her once as a character
idk if you finished the video, Racism requires the race to be or have been in a place of power over another. She could be prejudiced, and even a douche, but not racist. Not in this context lol
@@loganshields4483 You can't just change the definition of a word to justify black bigotry. Please show me a dictionary that states EXPLICITLY someone needs power to be racist.
@@loganshields4483 Only for the racism to be defined as institutional. Else only a perversion of sociological analysis would lead anyone to such a conclusion.
Also one thing I did a ton of research, there is not a single law in the USA that is racist, there are racist politicians, there are laws that might've been made with the intent to harm a group, but those laws still effect everyone. @@salvatorecastellitto1375
Anyone can be racist, I don’t care what color your skin is. You can have no power in a society at all and still have hatred in your heart. I get so mad when other black people say this cause it makes us sound like we trying to make ourselves untouchable when it comes to being called out for being in the wrong.
Black people don’t benefit from systemic racism. Sure anyone can say petty comments but everyone isn’t prevented from adequate schooling housing and job opportunities. So no black people dont prevent anyone from anything but sure they can say petty comments like anyone can lol
@@ladypimp There isn't one ounce of sugercoating, ever since the 2000s, black people have been trying to make themselves look non-racist, when in reality, they might be as racist as you or me and that's coming from a black kid (me)
I read that Maya is meant to be a satirical character mocking the 'woke' mindset, but the way she's written feels like she's meant to be taken unironically so it's kinda hard to tell if that's even true. *edited for better wording*
Well what she said is correct. Black people don’t benefit from racism. Anyone can say petty comments but everyone doesn’t worry about getting schooling, housing and job opportunities based on their race.
@@sunnymaneYou're right, but what you are referring to is institutional racism, which is just one of four dimensions of racism. Internalized racism and Interpersonal racism are categories of racism that have no connection to power. Internalized Racism is "The private beliefs held by individuals", and Interpersonal Racism is "How we act upon racial belief when we interact with others". While Institutional and Systemic racism are affected by power and black people don't benefit from it, they can still practice the other two dimensions to it. For example, making the statement "Black people can't be racist" is a form of Interpersonal Racism while keeping that thought private is Internalized. Regardless, it is still racist
@@ladypimp Lady Pimp she is correct. Unless you’d like to explain how Black people benefit from a system specifically created to oppress them? We are well aware that anyone can say rude or mean comments but like I’ve already stated everyone isn’t actively being oppressed. Everyone doesn’t have to worry about getting schooling, jobs and housing based on their skin tone sorry. And watch what words you throw around because you definitely aren’t talking to me.
This phrase always pisses me off. I was literally bullied for an entire year in 8th grade when I moved to a school that was like 95% black, at first I didnt care, until I started getting bullied, and not just bullied, but bullied specifically BY THE BLACK KIDS for not being black. They called me white girl, white bitch, etc. Would make fun of me for being white (im not even white btw im latina), would just be assholes to me in general, yet I never saw them doing this to other black kids (except if the black kid was disabled or just "lame" because of course, thats how bullies are). It was one of the worst times of my life, I see black people being racist all the time but people let it slide BECAUSE they are black. Racism is racism, no matter what your skin color is.
Same but my mother is Mexican and my dad is blk, I also got bullied by them, they thought my mom was white so made fun of me for it and made fun of my clothes or anything etc but when I told them she was Mexican it only got worse.
Alternative perspective, and not trying to justify the phrase or anyone's bad actions at all, but just because black people collectively don't have as much power in society doesn't mean they didn't have power in that situation. They had a numbers advantage and put their hate on someone who did nothing to them. So even by their own definition it was racism.
It can be described as a secular doctrine within academia and political circles: “Speaking up for minorities”-with minorities being non-whites to sow division and discord across a wider population-is just a blanket statement that is also meant to hide how non-white demographics have the same clashes towards one another. The destruction of social cohesion by a handful of people in circles of influence and power is deliberate and not accidental, and it’s why academic faculty and administrators in business and government continue to push their rhetoric to preserve their positions of power. Racism as it’s redefined here in this cartoon is okay when they do it. It’s not a coincidence to see younger generations fall into that brainwashing, because it’s to train up younger people into preserving the dynamic that members of this ideological cult have established for themselves. Those kids who were bullies were being pat on the head by their elders for doing a “good job”. It’s something that is mentally very sick.
@@crzvm1lk They know. They just want to ignore the big difference between systemic racism and individual racism and who's on the receiving end of both.
@@vit968 You're the only one bringing "systemic" into it. Majority of racism that gets talked about in a regular conversation is individual racism, which black people CAN do. But it's always "muh systemic racism tho" and some rabbit hole about "power"
Someone cleverly brought up that if that guy had chosen to ask any of the other girls out not one of them would have had a problem with it. It's just that the only reason someone so unattractive could have been picked _has_ to be because of her skin tone, nevermind the fact he ignored other swooning white girls and went for Zoey instead.
Here's how the colorist episode shouldve gone "wow Zoey were so sorry we treated you like that, you did nothing wrong. We jumped to conclusions" and the twist could've been that he was just into tall girls like Zoey and they had a good time at the dance.
Growing up I was taught that racism was discriminating against someone because of their race, but somewhere in the 2010’s it became more accepted to define racism as systematic oppression. They’re both major issues, but these are very different terms.
@@lisah8438 You're conflating institutional racism with just racism. You don't need to have power over a group or an individual to be racist, it's based on racial prejudice; nowhere in the definition does it state that one needs to have power to have racist thoughts, opinions, or actions.
What confuses me is there was a perfectly good term to describe that difference. Racism has always been a broad overarching term for discrimination based off of one's race. Obviously that can manifest in different ways, hence why people started to use the term systemic racism. Racism by a dominant group in society towards a marginalized group is different than the inverse, but the inverse doesn't suddenly not become racism. You could use that logic to dismiss any kind of form of discrimination in that case, i.e. young people can't be ageist against someone older than them, women can't be sexist towards men, etc. It's just silly.
I can’t believe they made Penny PROUD of all people say black people can’t be racist 🤦♀️ And racism isn’t prejudice+power Maya - it’s just plain prejudice WHATEVER colour you are! 😤
Exactly! They tried to change the definition to try not have accountability. Dark skinned people face the most discrimination from all other groups of people. They don’t benefit from systematic racism
Anyone who says Black people can't be racist have clearly never heard any negative remarks or attitudes towards Hispanic people (particularly Mexicans) from their fellow Black people. Unless, of course, they are the ones saying it.
I am mixed and I have gotten plenty of racist remarks from my black classmates (my school is majority black) its crazy to me because of how much they dog on white people here for being racist when the white kids at my school are some of the nicest people out there. I try to get along with my black peers because they are a part of the culture I am apart of and grew up with, but they keep isolating themselves from me. Insulting me and telling me how my heritage isn't valid because I don't have that kinky curly hair or chocolate brown skin.
You don't even want to hear black people discussing other black people lmao, especially Africans. We all the same people but behind the scenes every family has those people who regard different black ethnicities than our own in a negative light because of (mostly) cultural and economic differences. Ignorance at it's finest
I agree and also I know sometimes we do it too but the reason we do it because of some say stuff to us first sometimes and people thinking we always the ones picking at then but clearly it goes both ways
The amount of casual Latino fetishization by other races and cultures, especially blacks, is insanely high. And I say that as a Latino who’s witnessed plenty of this.
Everyone can be racist no matter their skin color, gender, or sexualities it is something that applies to everyone, of course not everyone is racist but it can apply to anyone, this also applies to other things like sexism , homophobia, etc.
Yes they can, I was in high school during 9/11 . Because I am Indian, two African American females to came to me and accused my father of being a terrorist. I told the principal he said there was nothing he could do about it.
Who remembers the short-lived "Stop Asian Hate" campaign around 2020? It immediately died down because the culprits did not fit this video's narrative. E.G overwhelming number of black folk attacking Asian folk, but people don't like to talk about that
@@rosiv9617 I would have liked for that to continue, the success of Asian Americans is like the epitome of the American dream, and this period of suffering you guys had, and are still having in some areas, needed the right attention. It's so disgusting the movement was thrown in the trash because folks couldn't blame whites. I feel for you, I really do. Asian Americans have more than earned the respect of EVERYONE
Because people only seem to care about black people when it comes to racism unfortunately. They don't care about asians and it's disgusting and hypocritical.
Yes exactly. When all the surveillance was coming out and it was all black oppressors being very racist and violent all of a sudden that movement died.
Saying black people can't be racist is like saying women can't be misogynistic or that disabled people can't be ableist. Just because you're apart of the community doesn't mean that you can't cause harm to it, and in this case, she was talking to asian people who have a unique form of oppression compared to hers so they weren't even under the same types of racism edit: stop arguing in the replies, i will no longer respond as this is a waste of my time
racism is a form of systemic oppression. they’re not saying black people cant be prejudiced or racially biased, just that racism and racial discrimination are not the same thing
Small difference here though: Racist people aren't just targeting black people. Misogyny concerns only women, ableism concerns people with disabilities, but racism is literal hate over anything a person can't change about themselves and any group ever.
They do! Some don't age we'll and sometimes the message gets skewed but I really want an episode where Tolkien calls out Proud Family Louder and Prouder for promoting racism
I don't know why some people say Racism = Prejudice + Power. Those two traits don't create racism, they create oppression since power gives one a way to exercise their prejudice on a bigger scale, meanwhile, racism is just prejudice alone because you don't need to be above someone to hate them.
90% of the time people talk about racism they aren't talking about oppression. 90% of the time someone is called "racist" they are acting outside and in opposition to the institutional powers, like an employee who gets fired for writing something "racist" on his Facebook page.
Racism is racial prejudice, period. You don't need power to be racist. (Plus, you can be in a less powerful demographic and still have more power than those in a more powerful demographic.)
I walked into a movie theater when the first Black Panther movie was playing and was harrassed about how it "wasnt my movie" by the rest of the audience cause i was the only white person in the whole place. Was getting death threats, some of them followed me out of the theater when i went to the ticket person to talk to the manager about a refund...and the manager who was himself a black man heard what happened and looked mortified at what was going on. Personally escorted me to my car to make sure i wasnt gonna get jumped, too.
That movie was good but Black Panther was created by a white man, owned by a white company, and depicts a fictional powerful independent nation with no slavery, civil rights movement, or colonization. Aside from the actors having similar skin color to me I don't see much there to relate to. Yet every other black person I knew was losing their mind over it. Doesn't surprise me that they ran you out of the theater over it, even though that's gotta be the stupidest thing to claim as "not for you". Certainly none of their ancestors were from Wakanda either?
Ive always hated this saying because it completely glosses over alot of the racism asian or latino communities will be the target of from black people. Thats not to say that those communities dont have problem with racism themselves but they are still the subjects of racism from black people. Everyone can be racist no matter a power dynamic.
Prejudice plus power, huh? I can think of a few groups of people that African Americans have systemic power over. Native Americans, immigrants (especially ones who don't speak English, don't have visas, or don't have citizenship and therefore have no right to vote). The girl Penny was talking to clearly spoke English, but there's no way to tell if she's an American citizen or not. For all we know, Penny could have systemic power over her.
Tf you saying native America literally own slaves the five civilized tribes for example then they was ain’t give category of white which mean privileges stop writing shit out yo ass
Also, this entire scene feels incredibly disingenuous. That Asian girl never explicitly called Penny a racist. She just got annoyed with Penny for stereotyping her. Which, to be clear, Penny did do. And then her friends are just like "oh, she just called you racist, but you can't be racist, so you don't have to worry about it", which was completely unacceptable because a) that Asian girl never even said Penny was racist, *someone else* put those words in her mouth and b) Penny's choice to stereotype this girl was completely brushed off by both her friends and the narrative itself, in favor of pretending that black people are incapable of being prejudiced.
Honestly, It didn't look like Penny was stereotyping them, I thought she was just asking for them for help and went to them first because they were one of the people Penny knew. Sucks that ended up being the case, and out of Penny's character
Everybody can be racist. I’ve been racially slurred by white men and women, black men and women, Mexican men and women and let me tell you it hurts and when I call out for it, they say the same thing that Penny said.
Mexican is a nationality, not a race, unless you mean native Mexicans. I'm really sorry that happened to you. White supremacy & erasure is still an issue here. You're not alone.
One time some kids made fun of me because I kept saying I was Puerto rican and Mexican and white (50% Puerto Rican, 25% Mexican, 25% white) but apparently I was too white or smth so they kept calling me fake Mexican 💀💀💀
Black here and I’ve faced this exact kind of mindset. I don’t know how it got misconstrued that one can be exempt from racism but the truth is many black people have a problem addressing issues inside the community. I was born in the us and my moms Haitian so if someone asked what I was I’d clarify that. That amount of children that responded with “I don’t like Haitians” was crazy. Even more ridiculous was when I asked for their reasons it was always some flimsy “idk I just don’t”. One girl flat out said she had an issue with me now and I called her racist. The went to her saying “I’m not racist I just don’t like Haitians”. If a white person said that there would be hell to pay but no cause your black you get some gross exemption. It annoys me when media likes to only portray black people as unambiguously United to some issue and painting the picture that only something on the outside harms us. Sad truth is a lot of stuff that brings us down is glossed over cause it mean addressing internal problems that aren’t caused be outside factors. There were adults talking about a “racist” killing a black guy on his home when the truth was the guy broke in and appropriately got bodied for it. Penny and her friends will decry Zoe for getting the affections of a light skin guy that doesn’t like darker girls. Nobody talks about that guys hookup and Zoe is the problem like wtf? The show has a very skewered perspective that hasn’t don’t well at addressing some of the big things they try to especially when it comes to race.
If she doesn't like people for their race or country they came from, then she is racist, even if she's that same race. Also I agree, this show does a terrible job of addressing racism! This shouldn't be on Disney channel for the CHILDREN!
Aww I'm so sorry you went through that. Being discriminated sucks bro :( like anyone can be racist, just because you have a different skin color from someone else doesn't exempt you from a negative quality like being racist y'know? Dam yea, we just all gotta learn to love each other and we should never justify racism!
The main problem is arrogance and denial: people can't better themselves if they think they're in the right and its something they ironically adopted from the people they hate. Pettiness and revenge is a cycle of emotional stupidity.
I'm white, half Mongolian. I grew up in inner city Minneapolis. I was shot in the back at a young age by a black man who wanted me dead for the color of my skin. I was crippled from the waist down because of racism. But it didn't turn me racist. Why? I was raised right. I look at the individual, not the people. Not the skin, not the way they speak, just their words and actions
in september a black kid kept insisting i had a "chinese face" and that "if i asked any chinese person they'd tell me i had a chinese face"... in vietnamese :/
I'm not POC but I definitely have seen moments like that too, I was once banned from a Discord server for saying that it's possible to be racist to white people and sexist to men. Also because I liked South Park.🤦
I had a black teacher who kept saying black people can't be racist and when I tried to give evidence of blacks being racist, she dismissed it because the example I gave wasn't of the blacks in the US.
@@ninjafalls1739 I had a white teacher who was obsessed with black people. He had BLM flags, several black national flags, and posters of black people. He had a doctorate in African American Studies. I took English 11 with him and the second semester of that class was literally black history/crt class. I remember learning about how black people were "kidnapped by white people" and sent away to stolen Native American land. I had a Chinese friend who hated this crap and spoke out against. He could sort of get away with it because he wasn't white, unlike me.
So glad to see so many people not falling for this bullshit and calling it out. The original was so good dispite it's flaws (Penny's toxic friend group), but instead of fixing those problems in the reboot they add a whole new crap ton of them! The toxicity, entitlement, hypocrisy and victim mentality of the main characters is ruining what could have been a great continuation of a beloved childhood series. I'm definitely sticking with the original and leaving this in the trash where it belongs.
"black people can't be racist" "I agree, racism is prejudice PLUS power" Did they just said that black people are inferior? What kind of message is that?
Can literally kill someone for the color of their skin but it doesn't count as a hate crime because a white dude is president (or something like that who even knows).
Why are you surprised? In my home state, the left was up in arms because the state made it illegal for campaign volunteers to go to polling booths and hand out "VOTE FOR ME" bottles of water to people standing in line. When people asked why that was a problem, they claimed that minorities would be disadvantaged and thirsty. To which I would say "I'm sorry, do you think a black man is too stupid to bring his own water?" . They'd get really quiet after that.
No , black people have been systemically oppressed and have been prevented from having the social powered required to execute systemic racism. We do not have the same power white people do , not because we are inferior but because white people have rigged the game.
Saying black people can’t be racist is like saying women can’t be sexist.
Because they cant? Its the same argument every time. ONLY white people and muslims can be and are racist. I will die on this hill
Exactly...some women say men aren't deserving of love...
@@NewBetaMarioSeriesWho cares? Men can love men, easy
@@JustLiving-dg5by That's not quite what we meant...we're saying there are some women who think women (exclusively) are deserving of love, and men are not.
@@NewBetaMarioSeries And i said why would you care what women think or say? They think men don't deserve love? you are seeking love in a wrong place 😃👍 hope that helps
A black kid once told me to go back to my country. I’m native.
That's terrible but also really funny
Thats fked but I apologize for Laughing ny ass off for 5 minutes 😭
God that’s both horrible and just factually wrong.
That's terrible. And hilarious. But mostly terrible.
the irony of you being from here while they never were from here
Black person here. Some of the most racist people I've encountered were black. Obviously not the only ones or even Uncle Ruckus levels but it's definitely there. I can't believe they actually said this in the show, especially with the supposedly "woke" character.
I was literally about to make comment about Uncle Ruckus.
Fr I've yet to meet a single racist other race person (towards me) I was mocked last year for being "light skin" when I'm brown but everyone in my class was darker or white so I was an outcast from the other people of my race and the ones who didn't talk about me and hung out with me were people of other races you would think the tone of your skin wouldn't matter if we are the same race but I guess that didn't apply
In Africa, some of the mayor wars and masacres were made cuz tribes were racist and considered other tribes inferior
You know it’s gonna be bad when the uncle ruckus theme begins slowly creeping in
That's the kinda shit our people are sayin when they "woke" 🤷🏾♂️
whoever wrote this into the script needs to be blacklisted from writing forever.
hire me instead, i may have zero creativity but i dont lie when it comes to a topic like this
this reminds me of the whole 'BLACK PEOPLE CANT MARRY WHITE PEOPLE' steven universe controversy
@@dexterwolfeisstrange wait that actually happened in Steven Universe?
@@rayanna7188 No, it was something on the CN channel where two boys at a playground, one kid being white and one being black, say when they grow up, they want to get married. A third kid shows up and tells them they can't. When asked why they can't, he says, “Black people can't marry white people.” After he says that, Garnet shows up and tells the kids, “Kids, don't be racist.” That’s what I remember, you can the video here on RUclips if you want to see it for yourself.
Don’t you mean put on the list of color?
Why? They’re literally trying to teach a lesson to kids that they can indeed be racist if black. That’s how kids shows work, the main character says some wrong shit and then the moral of the episode shows them the error of their ways.
Everyone can be racist, it doesn't matter what race you are because racism is a human trait.
Racism is not a human trait wtf r u on💀💀
She not racist...penny😒
Yeah, but if they change the definition of what racism is, it makes them look less hypocritical
Exactly.
@@Termina2018 why are you agreeing ??? You know that they’re saying that racism is something everyone executes ?? Racism is not something you just learn out of the blue , it’s taught by racists . If you unlearn racist behaviors , you can teach the next generation to not engage in racism . Racism is not a human trait !! It’s not in our biology or in our blood .
"Black people can't be racist!"
I guess Penny completely forgot the lesson she learned in the "I Had a Dream" episode of the show's original run.
🤦🏿 Wow that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard
Assuming Prejudice + Power =racism (It doesn't btw) They would still be wrong, because if a white guy went to some place in Africa, were black people had majority power, are we to assume he can't be racist because his race doesn't have power there?
I would assume this husk of a reboot would disagree and in turn contradict themselves.
@@karthikbalamurugan7390 "Some place in Africa?" Well guy who spends most of his days in wearing a white hood, if a white guy who believes he's superior to black people goes to "some place in Africa", preferably the part with blacks in it, and given whites and Europeans long history of destabilizing of Africa, he's a racist. Then again Maya is talking about American politics so this scenario is idiotic and asinine.
@@karthikbalamurugan7390that’s exactly what it is. Black people cant be racist unless they’re in Africa. Racism is quite literally a system perpetuated by prejudice
This is a alternative version of the proud family, it's more like the "𝐰𝐨𝐤𝐞" family now
A grown person wrote that line, somone read that script, approved it, then a voice actor said it. We’re so fucked man
Counterpoint: every one of the comments on this video suggests people see through this dumbassery as easily as they would a ziploc bag
@@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese ^this. People calling out this bs shows that we arent as screwed as we think we are.
@@2007ghettonissanaltima I'd say, this is true but also... People like this in their respective industries, might be a bit screwed themselves.
Yeah. A random black dude in a car yelled “Go back to China” at my aunt.
We’re Filipino.
I had several if not too many black people tell me the same. And I'm actually Chinese 😂
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Probably a black Trump supporter
W h a t
The fact that they are saying this in a kids show makes it so much worse.
No such thing as a kids show nowadays lol except maybe Peanuts/Snoopy. All gotta insert their adult views somehow, like this, cocomelon or shazam 2 lol.
@@MrVariant Yeah lol, kids shows aren't made to make a story anymore
@@Mel_crybabyfan There are ones that are though.
Agreed, times have changed and millenials teens had it different
@@MrVariantkids shows have always had adult stuff/politics though, Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny doing blackface or dressing up as Asians, characters being super patriotic, etc.
Everyone can be racist and everyone can be a target for racism.
*Except for white people
Ok but can they do this 0:33 k
@@ryanwilkins2233 I have no idea what your asking , so rephrase it .
i agree with the first part but i must add ,white people are not minorities
@@FizzyBibbleNyCand?
A black kid asked my dad for money because his ancestors were slaves of my dad.
We are Sri Lankan. We didn't even have slaves.
fucking hell
Wait let me get this straight. You're saying that this kid eyeballed your dad and immediately came to such a conclusion? Dear god... I hope he wasn't serious but something tells me he was
As a black person I believe anyone can be racist no matter the race I mean it’s in the name of Race-ist because it goes for all races ✋🏾😭
Not for white ppl lets get that straight
Respect fam
@Ph0bius_Network what
Respect
Respect 👏🏼👏🏼
“Black people can’t be racist”
… I was bullied by some black kids and they flipped the BIRD at me, referred to me as an “it” and not a human being, and told me straight to my face “I don’t associate myself with people like YOU.” And I’m Filipino.
Yeah, black people can totally NOT be racist sometimes 😒
Anyone can be racist. I'm so sorry you had to endure that bullying :(
I can’t believe black people would down on you like that, coming from a black man myself who has a Filipino girlfriend, I’m sorry you had to deal with that.
Liberals promoting racism have no room in politics, just as invalid as the conservative racists they claim to combat
as a black person i'm so sorry
@@aspillustDude you...(sigh) you shouldn't feel bad about your "race" just because people on it did something wrong.
people trying to excuse their racism because they "cant be racist" is what is keeping racism alive
Exactly! There's an episode of WWYD where a hairdresser bashes a black woman for dating a white man, which is racist
100%
Racism is Racism, no matter who does it. If someone says: You can't do/wear that etc bc you're black, white, Hispanic etc, it's racist
It's racism and racisim
A lot more than that is keeping racism alive. But keep blaming black ppl for racism, it’s a good look.
“black people can’t be racist”
ummm… i think we missed the whole point of racism there 💀
Black people absolutely can be racist. I was a white Chinese girl in an all black and Latina/latino school. My siblings were black. These 3 girls harassed me the whole year and spread a rumor that I hated my sister because she’s black, saying how I believe I’m above everyone else because I’m white, and kept saying things like I’m slow and stupid because I’m white and I also failed my race because I’m Chinese and bad at math (I’m dyslexic.) my stepmom gave me box braids one day and the girls pulled at them saying I was appropriating their culture. I cried and took my hair out which took my stepmom 4 hours to do and she got mad at me, but I never told her why I did it.
You should have told her. She would most likely understand. I feel terrible knowing what you went through. If you need a talk, just tell me.
"Black People can't be racist!"
*Uncle Ruckus Theme blairs*
"Well, Well, Well"
😂😂 and Kanye west
@@wackytoons88"slavery is a choice"
- Kanye when his other side of his bipolarness wins
@@mrjuicejunior I agree with the Kanye part I guess you right about that tho
LMAO
Leave it to a racist to get the definition of racism wrong.
Change the definition to benefit themselves!
That girl is about to say “I’m not racist but”
They always tack things on.
Anybody anyone can be racist
This one black girl was harrassing me saying for me to go back to mexico 😭 and i legit told her to stop being rascit and she had the audacity to say “Black people cant be rascit we, we have the power and right to say what we want.” ☠️…
Black people can be racist, racism means prejudice or stereotypical definitions used to identify a race even if its disrespectful or ignorant. Literally any race can be racist.
I hate the argument that racism is 'prejudice PLUS power'. If you look down on anyone for their race, no matter the situation, it's racism. That being said systemic racism is through prejudice and power. And that does have an effect but anyone, no matter who they are or the color of their skin, can say and do racist things and essentially, be racist. That argument is just a way to excuse being a racist jerk and get away with it.
exactly bro penny was being straight up racist to them and maya starts defining a different form of racism like cmon 😭🙏
I don't think you necessarily have to look down on someone because of their race, to be racist. You can be racist for hating someone purely because of their race, whether you believe them to be above or below you.
@@XYZ_55 typically if someone is hating someone for their race, they believe theirs is better. If you think about a group you don't like and think they would be better if they acted more like you, that is still racism
Just let thay sink in: Racism = prejudice + power. Prejudice... on the basis of what exactly? If it's race, why not call it racist?
It's not an argument, it's a fact. That is simply the sociological definition of racism. Systemic Racism has ALL the effect.
Maya is such a hypocrite
If she's fighting against racism than why is she agreeing with Penny's statement
And why would they have Penny say that?
Fr, it's so out of character for Penny
Cause she follows the moronic logic that she explained here that's practiced by woke people everywhere. Also this show is just using the characters as vehicles to insert their own views and politics, they don't care about maintaining the essence of the originals.
I mean, she's like what, 12 in this scene?? If she actually learns something within the episode OR EVEN THE SEASON then it's good writing and character development.
Because black people do not benefit from the system of racism. Sure anyone can say petty comments but everyone doesn’t have a clear cut advantage from better jobs, schooling and housing opportunities
I’m guessing it’s a setup so that Penny/the audience can learn a lesson about racism.
Saying “Black people cant be racist” is the equivalent of saying “Penguins can’t be birds.”
It's like saying Jewish people can't be genocidal.
"Black people can't be racist" is actually funny in the context Penny uses it in. Unfortunately, Maya immediately ruins the joke by taking the statement seriously and trying to replace it with her own joke.
Another reboot, another childhood ruined.
Ex-fucking-xactly. It would've ben funny if Penny said "black people cantbe racist!" And then someone corrected her and said "actually we can" but that wasnt the scene sadly
If someone told me "black people can't be racist because racism is prejudice AND power" I would never talk to them again. Anyone can be racist no matter their race or 'power'.
THAT right there is how communities are divided 🫵
@@abigailc6873 Nah just keeping toxic people away from you.
@als3022 Keeping yourself away from another is division whether or not you think it’s beneficial
@@abigailc6873Can you rlly blame them, I ong hate the whole black people cant be racist garbage as a black person 🤦🏽♀️, anyone can be racist and that’s a fact, ppl need to stop changing the definition of racism
How many times were random nobodies called ‘racist’ for criticizing President Obama? Who had the power in that equation?
When a group of people are taught that it is impossible for them to be racist, that only gives them the incentive to be as racist as they possibly can.
Yup, and many revel in it as an excuse to behave badly.
You know what happens when a person thinks he is imcapable of doing some especific thing wrong? Exactly, a narcisist is born.
My grandma is super raciest especially during the holidays. She’s hates the Irish
@@ThebobbymanDoes she not know about how America treated them when they first moved here?
@@theliedetector2199 I’m pretty sure America has always treated every new wave of immigrants like shit
theyre teaching kids this shit? thats fucking WILD.
This is why parents always need to monitor what their children look at... even the "kid shows."
Because if they rely on television or internet to raise them instead, it's gonna lead to some disastrous consequences...
i feel pity for this generation
@@Termina2018 Actually, instead of parents forbidden their children to watch shows that can teach wrong lessons, they should let them watch it, but teach them that things are not like that and that they can't act that way. And kids don't repeat everything they see on TV. But I agree that "Black people can't be racist" thing is untrue.
correct, ((they)) are, they're trying to normalise racism against us cos we're their most hated
I went to an all black school and there was this teacher I swear had it out for me. I always hated her, and she hated me. But one day she was telling a story about her trip to Japan and then began some weird things about the Japanese, and even went as far as to pull her eyes back and mock the way they speak.
And once word of the pandemic got out, she had a few things to say…
Love knows no color. Neither does hate.
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Really? So why did you losers trip when. A black little mermaid movie was released? Love knows no color ...sure
@@mania4270 im sure this person only meant good when they made this comment. im black and i agree with it.
@@treatyyum it just comes off as ignorant. Comments like these are made by idiots who will say they love everyone race equally but then will complain about wokeness and diversity. There was nothing in this vid that was untrue.
Dr. MLK Jr is rolling in his grave rn
Dr. King would've did that speech from Boondocks if he was alive
MLK has literally said the exact stuff the girl in the video did dude. He's more than just one quote. He said a lot of things you probably don't like actually. Like advocating for reparations and whatnot. Mayhaps you should read more about him than the single line he said, that's pushed by the whitewashed curriculum of the US school system.
@@ci7210 That was one of the most hilarious things I’ve ever seen in anything
He also warned about black supremacy because he didn't want the cycle of revenge to perpetuate
@@tuckernutter Heck, it's not even revenge since many of the hurdles black people had to overcome back in his day were perpetuated by people who aren't around anymore. It's simple guilt by association that they try to gaslight white people into accepting.
It is funny because they did not even get the 'definition' correct.
It is supposed to be "privilege plus power". Prejudice is the word they call their racism to make it sound better.
'Black people cannot be racist, only prejudiced' as if being prejudiced is any better.
"Racism is prejudice plus power"
Umm...no? It's discrimination against someone for the color of their skin, no matter social, financial, or economic standing. Eugh. No wonder the reboot did so poorly. Some of the most racist people I've meet recently were black/indian (from India, not Native American).
racism is (ironically) all-inclusive.
anyone of any skin color can be racist to anyone of any skin color. because racism does not require any power, it only requires prejudice.
So you're saying all Americans face equal oppression or?
@@sunnymaneCheap deflection tactic.
@@sunnymaneConvenient of you to ignore the comments of people sharing their firsthand experiences with racism. Do you do this because you do not know how to gaslight them without being proven wrong?
@@sunnymane They didn't say that. And you using a strawman to try and discredit the statement points towards your own ignorance even more.
THIS, ofc some races with get targeted more but that doesn't mean it just doesn't exist for the less targeted ones
The Proud Family literally stereotyped Aisans in the older show. They have worn (stereotype) regalia of a romanticized Powhatans child as a costume. They guilted Zoey because of her skin color, racism is racism.
They're jealous of Asians, native Americans, and Hispanics
Its okay when black people do it tho just not when anyone else does it
wordddddddddddd
They stereotyped everyone to be honest
As Bob Parr would say,"Racism. Is. Racism!"
love it when people completely make up a new definition for a word just to fit with their political agenda.
That's just as bad as saying that men can't be victims of abuse 😢
I'm Asian. And when I was studying the UK international schools, there was one day where there is a school sponser spokeman, talking about how rhino horns are being poached ilegally, including by chinese people. And during then, on my dinner table, the white and black students stared at me with stern passive agressive eyes. I felt super uncomfortable, but I was more suprised than uncomfortable. These are the same black students that say that hate racist people, and will argue and defend against racism, including students who said the N word. There's like, a kazillion chinese people, and my family are from hong kong so me and my family have nothing to do with rhino horn poaching.
I don't carry grudge, and they were around 15 years old at that time. But I'm sharing this story to let people know that anyone can be racist, unintentionally or intentionally.
look how you completely ignored the whites staring at you too, as if thats normal and not surprising lmaooooo maybe you are the racist one who purposefully focused on the black dude? ah yes of course, t=yall have a colorism issue in asia so im not surprised at all
I’m sorry you had to go through that, but you experience is definitely schooling everyone saying “black people can’t be racist because they don’t have systemic power.” And there are quite a few people saying that in these comments, funny how none of them responded to your actual account of racism. I hope you have a good day man
There are black and white poachers too. And the racists like to ignore that intentionally. I often hear people say racism against Asian isn’t actually racism. It only counts when black people is being discriminated against.
There's some irony too that that spokesman specifically singled out Chinese people, as if they alone are killing all of Africa's rhinos. That sounds racist to me, and then you can see the effects of that by how your classmates judged you. Nothing specifically racist was said, but think about that framing.
@@amycurtis535 That's true. I think the media and education only teaches white people to not be racist towards black people, especially the prohibit use of the n word.
But when I scroll through instagram memes, i see comments flooding with the word 'ching chong'. And sometimes people make racist chinese noises to make fun of our language when i was explaining in chinese to someone.
Why don't i see more anti asian racism videos in media? I think its because America really hates China due to being economic rivals. Though to be fair, there are quite a lot of local china people that are racist towards american people as well
As an Asian who was left to the mercy of severe bullying by black people because they knew they can get away with it because they were black. Penny’s statement is VERY false & ignorant.
“They knew they could get away with it because there black” ????
@@Lol-zz9io Ya my school and many schools around cater to the racism cards. School administrators were like …. Oh well & left me to handle it.
@@musicallydisneyamvs6731 no, schools dont care about bullying at all no matter the race
@@Lol-zz9io Believe it or not, at least you were blessed enough to not deal with that type of B.S.
I've been bullied, called "ching chong", go back to your country type shit, they made those chinky eyes and say we eat dogs while calling of us Chinese when we're not and ugly by many. Yeah, I feel you but they didn't "get away with it because they're black." But they're just bullies in general because most Asians are easier targets to make fun of since most Asians in my schools are often reserved or quiet. But there's some good and bad all around for sure.
"Black people can't be racist"
You just invalidate you own argument in a same sentence 💀
As a white guy who was bullied by black coworkers, I was appalled by this and I think Disney is digging its own grave
As a biracial myself. Being half white and half black I had extreme amount of hate from both black and white people.
I'm sorry you have to deal with that. Mixed people like us got nobody else. I'm too white to be accepted by Asians, I'm too Asian to be accepted by whites. Mixed might as well mean "mongrel", we're not even human to these people.
“As a biracial” I pity your existence.
Same, AND THIS OMG!!
Im sorry for what you went through, i hope you're in a better place, and environment now!
It's the old "to black for my white friends and too white for my black friends" I think we all go through this when we are younger.
With that logic, does that mean poor people can't be racist?
Poor people can be with negative thoughts
I was thinking exatly that. By Maya's logic, a white homeless man can go around shouting the n word and harrassing only black people, but he's not being racist, "just a jerk"
@@kou7191 by her logic the hypothetical white homeless man would still have power over a black billionnaire, regardless of difference in wealth. Because being white in itself is to be inherently more privileged, regardless of anything else.
@@spencerlively3049 The worst part is a later episode DOES lowkey imply that, when Barry was told to use his 'white privilege' instead of, you know, his actual authority as a cop.
@@kou7191what? A white man will always be given better housing schooling and job opportunities based on racism. Idk what being poor has to do with anything lol
Corpos knew you exactly what they were doing when they let this pass on a kids show. They knew EXACTLY what they were "programming".
Who’s Corpos ?
When the world needed him the most. He appeared
Uncle Ruckus
Like Ang
Penny,honey. Anyone can be racist no matter what race they are just like how people can be targets for racism. Also Maya is very hard to side . I never liked her once as a character
idk if you finished the video, Racism requires the race to be or have been in a place of power over another. She could be prejudiced, and even a douche, but not racist. Not in this context lol
@@loganshields4483 You can't just change the definition of a word to justify black bigotry. Please show me a dictionary that states EXPLICITLY someone needs power to be racist.
@@loganshields4483 Only for the racism to be defined as institutional. Else only a perversion of sociological analysis would lead anyone to such a conclusion.
Racism is discrimination and prejudice against people based on their race or ethnicity.@@loganshields4483
Also one thing I did a ton of research, there is not a single law in the USA that is racist, there are racist politicians, there are laws that might've been made with the intent to harm a group, but those laws still effect everyone. @@salvatorecastellitto1375
Anyone can be racist, I don’t care what color your skin is. You can have no power in a society at all and still have hatred in your heart. I get so mad when other black people say this cause it makes us sound like we trying to make ourselves untouchable when it comes to being called out for being in the wrong.
Black people don’t benefit from systemic racism. Sure anyone can say petty comments but everyone isn’t prevented from adequate schooling housing and job opportunities. So no black people dont prevent anyone from anything but sure they can say petty comments like anyone can lol
Sunny, it's not just petty comments, quit sugarcoating it.
@@ladypimp There isn't one ounce of sugercoating, ever since the 2000s, black people have been trying to make themselves look non-racist, when in reality, they might be as racist as you or me and that's coming from a black kid (me)
@@ladypimpthey think its "revenge"
but do their ancestors wish for the reverse?
no they wanted everyone to be treated like individuals
@@vehicleunhandler Disguntled people these days really like to ignore MLK's messages of peace.
Whoever wrote this garbage needs to be fired ASAP
This whole fucking reboot was racist as shit. Leave it to modern Disney to RUIN another classic.
I read that Maya is meant to be a satirical character mocking the 'woke' mindset, but the way she's written feels like she's meant to be taken unironically so it's kinda hard to tell if that's even true.
*edited for better wording*
Makes sense. I literally saw her that way, she's not a real activist
Well what she said is correct. Black people don’t benefit from racism. Anyone can say petty comments but everyone doesn’t worry about getting schooling, housing and job opportunities based on their race.
Sunny, no, she's not. It doesn't matter, treating someone poorly based on race regardless wether ur privileged or not is still racism. Racist
@@sunnymaneYou're right, but what you are referring to is institutional racism, which is just one of four dimensions of racism.
Internalized racism and Interpersonal racism are categories of racism that have no connection to power. Internalized Racism is "The private beliefs held by individuals", and Interpersonal Racism is "How we act upon racial belief when we interact with others". While Institutional and Systemic racism are affected by power and black people don't benefit from it, they can still practice the other two dimensions to it.
For example, making the statement "Black people can't be racist" is a form of Interpersonal Racism while keeping that thought private is Internalized. Regardless, it is still racist
@@ladypimp Lady Pimp she is correct. Unless you’d like to explain how Black people benefit from a system specifically created to oppress them? We are well aware that anyone can say rude or mean comments but like I’ve already stated everyone isn’t actively being oppressed. Everyone doesn’t have to worry about getting schooling, jobs and housing based on their skin tone sorry. And watch what words you throw around because you definitely aren’t talking to me.
This phrase always pisses me off. I was literally bullied for an entire year in 8th grade when I moved to a school that was like 95% black, at first I didnt care, until I started getting bullied, and not just bullied, but bullied specifically BY THE BLACK KIDS for not being black. They called me white girl, white bitch, etc. Would make fun of me for being white (im not even white btw im latina), would just be assholes to me in general, yet I never saw them doing this to other black kids (except if the black kid was disabled or just "lame" because of course, thats how bullies are). It was one of the worst times of my life, I see black people being racist all the time but people let it slide BECAUSE they are black. Racism is racism, no matter what your skin color is.
I’m so sorry you went through that
latina isn’t a race
Same but my mother is Mexican and my dad is blk, I also got bullied by them, they thought my mom was white so made fun of me for it and made fun of my clothes or anything etc but when I told them she was Mexican it only got worse.
Alternative perspective, and not trying to justify the phrase or anyone's bad actions at all, but just because black people collectively don't have as much power in society doesn't mean they didn't have power in that situation. They had a numbers advantage and put their hate on someone who did nothing to them. So even by their own definition it was racism.
It can be described as a secular doctrine within academia and political circles: “Speaking up for minorities”-with minorities being non-whites to sow division and discord across a wider population-is just a blanket statement that is also meant to hide how non-white demographics have the same clashes towards one another. The destruction of social cohesion by a handful of people in circles of influence and power is deliberate and not accidental, and it’s why academic faculty and administrators in business and government continue to push their rhetoric to preserve their positions of power. Racism as it’s redefined here in this cartoon is okay when they do it. It’s not a coincidence to see younger generations fall into that brainwashing, because it’s to train up younger people into preserving the dynamic that members of this ideological cult have established for themselves. Those kids who were bullies were being pat on the head by their elders for doing a “good job”. It’s something that is mentally very sick.
You know a dictionary is a things right? Oxford says nothing about power in the definition of racism .
That’s why people try to get the dictionary definition of words changed so that other people can’t use their favorite words against them.
What a weird message, its almost like they forgot that were all human
forgot? they just see us as lesser than them so racism against us is normalised
You don’t need “power” to be prejudice
thats not what she said
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They know. They just want to ignore the big difference between systemic racism and individual racism and who's on the receiving end of both.
You need it to be racist though and that’s the point lmao
@@vit968 systemic racism is as fake as the saying in this clip.
@@vit968 You're the only one bringing "systemic" into it.
Majority of racism that gets talked about in a regular conversation is individual racism, which black people CAN do.
But it's always "muh systemic racism tho" and some rabbit hole about "power"
"Black people can't be racist!" And the whole "friend" group was being mean to the only white girl there, isn't it ironic?
Yes
I don't agree that Black people can't be racist but where were they being mean to the White girl?
They hated on her because the dude had a preference to light skinned/white girls as SHE WAS THE ONE WHO APOLOGIZED???
Someone cleverly brought up that if that guy had chosen to ask any of the other girls out not one of them would have had a problem with it. It's just that the only reason someone so unattractive could have been picked _has_ to be because of her skin tone, nevermind the fact he ignored other swooning white girls and went for Zoey instead.
Here's how the colorist episode shouldve gone "wow Zoey were so sorry we treated you like that, you did nothing wrong. We jumped to conclusions" and the twist could've been that he was just into tall girls like Zoey and they had a good time at the dance.
proud family is something the boondocks would make a parody episode abt
If I said something racist to an Asian just bc I’m black doesn’t mean I’m free from not being called that.
Growing up I was taught that racism was discriminating against someone because of their race, but somewhere in the 2010’s it became more accepted to define racism as systematic oppression. They’re both major issues, but these are very different terms.
Especially now with political propaganda
The discrimination they were talking about is systematic oppression by the people in power on minorities.
Racism was always prejudice + power. That definition was way before 2010s.
@@lisah8438 You're conflating institutional racism with just racism. You don't need to have power over a group or an individual to be racist, it's based on racial prejudice; nowhere in the definition does it state that one needs to have power to have racist thoughts, opinions, or actions.
What confuses me is there was a perfectly good term to describe that difference. Racism has always been a broad overarching term for discrimination based off of one's race. Obviously that can manifest in different ways, hence why people started to use the term systemic racism. Racism by a dominant group in society towards a marginalized group is different than the inverse, but the inverse doesn't suddenly not become racism. You could use that logic to dismiss any kind of form of discrimination in that case, i.e. young people can't be ageist against someone older than them, women can't be sexist towards men, etc. It's just silly.
I can’t believe they made Penny PROUD of all people say black people can’t be racist 🤦♀️
And racism isn’t prejudice+power Maya - it’s just plain prejudice WHATEVER colour you are! 😤
Let’s face it. We CANNOT trust this new “Louder and Prouder” series by Disney+. The folks who made this series clearly have an agenda…
Racism towards whites will be tolerated. By white people. With smiles.
She's PROUD of her racism. 😂
@@Gametoon05 she’s a proud racist
Last week she did some selfies behind some confederate flags
This is the reboot that made everyone in the show into hateful, openly racist scumbags.
That statement is the kind of thing the Boodocks would have made fun of.
God I loved the Boondocks.
Some people forget racism isn't blackism. it's race. something all people have in some way. It can go in any direction.
What people mean is that white people don’t experience racism, atleast not on the same level as minorities
Funny how it’s only black characters on this show keeping racism alive
We can see the 88 in your name bro
@@fuki98Tf does that have to do with anything?
@@fuki98uh congrats for noticing?
@@jelanilundie1255 I think he's referring to 1488 maybe?
Ridding yourself of guilt by changing definitions is something even villains don't do.
Exactly! They tried to change the definition to try not have accountability. Dark skinned people face the most discrimination from all other groups of people. They don’t benefit from systematic racism
Well, the villains of 1984 by George Orwell do that
@@matityaloran9157 they weren't villains...to themselves...or the people they brainwashed into seeing them as heroes.
@@jazz3911 True but that makes it even worse
Most villains are better than this show anyway.
This show seems like genuine propaganda
(((Disney))), does that answer it? because YES, it is
As Michael Jackson Once Said:
*"It Don't Matter If Your Black Or White"*
And Racism Goes Both Ways. So He Was Right
OH HEY THAT RHYMES!!!1!!!!1!!1
@@dexterwolfeisstrange HOLY COW, IT DOES!!!!!
He was absolutely right
@@JordanS-ww4eu EXACTLY!
One of my favorite Michael Jackson songs hands down. Catchy AND a great message!
Anyone who says Black people can't be racist have clearly never heard any negative remarks or attitudes towards Hispanic people (particularly Mexicans) from their fellow Black people. Unless, of course, they are the ones saying it.
I am mixed and I have gotten plenty of racist remarks from my black classmates (my school is majority black) its crazy to me because of how much they dog on white people here for being racist when the white kids at my school are some of the nicest people out there. I try to get along with my black peers because they are a part of the culture I am apart of and grew up with, but they keep isolating themselves from me. Insulting me and telling me how my heritage isn't valid because I don't have that kinky curly hair or chocolate brown skin.
@@PotatoNuggetConsumerAlbinos go through this as well.
You don't even want to hear black people discussing other black people lmao, especially Africans. We all the same people but behind the scenes every family has those people who regard different black ethnicities than our own in a negative light because of (mostly) cultural and economic differences. Ignorance at it's finest
I agree and also I know sometimes we do it too but the reason we do it because of some say stuff to us first sometimes and people thinking we always the ones picking at then but clearly it goes both ways
The amount of casual Latino fetishization by other races and cultures, especially blacks, is insanely high. And I say that as a Latino who’s witnessed plenty of this.
Everyone can be racist no matter their skin color, gender, or sexualities it is something that applies to everyone, of course not everyone is racist but it can apply to anyone, this also applies to other things like sexism , homophobia, etc.
Yes they can, I was in high school during 9/11 . Because I am Indian, two African American females to came to me and accused my father of being a terrorist. I told the principal he said there was nothing he could do about it.
Best part is when Maya goes: "We can't be jerks" and then Dijonay shows up and says: "I'm here" cuz she's the super jerk of this AND the original show
She very clearly said “but we can be jerks”
@@epicalexfurry4377her logic of "black people can't be racist" is still brain dead.
She literally said “we can be jerks though”
Who remembers the short-lived "Stop Asian Hate" campaign around 2020? It immediately died down because the culprits did not fit this video's narrative. E.G overwhelming number of black folk attacking Asian folk, but people don't like to talk about that
I miss that movement. I actually felt seen heard for a little while. Asians having some spotlight?? Impossible
@@rosiv9617 I would have liked for that to continue, the success of Asian Americans is like the epitome of the American dream, and this period of suffering you guys had, and are still having in some areas, needed the right attention. It's so disgusting the movement was thrown in the trash because folks couldn't blame whites. I feel for you, I really do. Asian Americans have more than earned the respect of EVERYONE
That’s really upsetting that it was discontinued. Asians are humans too!
Because people only seem to care about black people when it comes to racism unfortunately. They don't care about asians and it's disgusting and hypocritical.
Yes exactly. When all the surveillance was coming out and it was all black oppressors being very racist and violent all of a sudden that movement died.
Don’t let anyone tell you what you can be, kids! Anyone can be a racist if they want to!
Saying black people csnt be racist is like saying woman cant be dangerous
Saying black people can't be racist is like saying women can't be misogynistic or that disabled people can't be ableist. Just because you're apart of the community doesn't mean that you can't cause harm to it, and in this case, she was talking to asian people who have a unique form of oppression compared to hers so they weren't even under the same types of racism
edit: stop arguing in the replies, i will no longer respond as this is a waste of my time
Ikr!?
racism is a form of systemic oppression. they’re not saying black people cant be prejudiced or racially biased, just that racism and racial discrimination are not the same thing
Small difference here though: Racist people aren't just targeting black people. Misogyny concerns only women, ableism concerns people with disabilities, but racism is literal hate over anything a person can't change about themselves and any group ever.
Why bring women and disabled people into this
Or that women can't be sexist on men.
We've gotten to the point where fucking south park would provide better morals for children
South Park is based 💀
They do! Some don't age we'll and sometimes the message gets skewed but I really want an episode where Tolkien calls out Proud Family Louder and Prouder for promoting racism
@@tuckernutterThat would honestly be amazing, but it’s not that popular so I don’t know if south park would actually do it.
Hmm
the show literally says that black people CAN be racist, they make it pretty clear in that episode
Nah, racism is prejudice, you don't need power
God, this show was such racist garbage
This show is a behemoth of an accident
Haha
@@ladypimpPenny proud 👧🏽 sexy
@@AnthonyLeachman-sc6esBro 💀
They knew *exactly* what they were doing.
Miguel O'Hara: "YOU'RE A MISTAKE!" *Chokeslams this show*
I don't know why some people say Racism = Prejudice + Power. Those two traits don't create racism, they create oppression since power gives one a way to exercise their prejudice on a bigger scale, meanwhile, racism is just prejudice alone because you don't need to be above someone to hate them.
You could literally be the weakest, poorest, and dumbest person in the world and you could still be racist. A literal incel could be racist
You're onto something
Because some are in denire
Racism is a form of oppression. It is impossible task to ask for an oppressed group to loke their oppresser.
90% of the time people talk about racism they aren't talking about oppression. 90% of the time someone is called "racist" they are acting outside and in opposition to the institutional powers, like an employee who gets fired for writing something "racist" on his Facebook page.
I'm black. There have been multiple occasions where I have witnessed my black friends go on Uncle Ruckus type stuff. 💀💀
Racism is racial prejudice, period. You don't need power to be racist. (Plus, you can be in a less powerful demographic and still have more power than those in a more powerful demographic.)
Racism is racism, pure and simple. No one race is above it
Intersectionalist and such would say otherwise.
It's all subversive gramscian nonsense though.
Absolutely right buddy
I walked into a movie theater when the first Black Panther movie was playing and was harrassed about how it "wasnt my movie" by the rest of the audience cause i was the only white person in the whole place. Was getting death threats, some of them followed me out of the theater when i went to the ticket person to talk to the manager about a refund...and the manager who was himself a black man heard what happened and looked mortified at what was going on. Personally escorted me to my car to make sure i wasnt gonna get jumped, too.
Yikes. It's a fucking Marvel movie. They aren't even all that good.
That movie was good but Black Panther was created by a white man, owned by a white company, and depicts a fictional powerful independent nation with no slavery, civil rights movement, or colonization. Aside from the actors having similar skin color to me I don't see much there to relate to. Yet every other black person I knew was losing their mind over it. Doesn't surprise me that they ran you out of the theater over it, even though that's gotta be the stupidest thing to claim as "not for you". Certainly none of their ancestors were from Wakanda either?
That is absolutely insane. I have no words.
Man that sucks 😕
I’m so fucking sorry you went through that..
That's something you shouldn't say to kids because anyone can be a racist no matter what your race is.
and the show still justify that it's not racism, just "being a jerk" LMAO
Ive always hated this saying because it completely glosses over alot of the racism asian or latino communities will be the target of from black people. Thats not to say that those communities dont have problem with racism themselves but they are still the subjects of racism from black people. Everyone can be racist no matter a power dynamic.
Prejudice plus power, huh? I can think of a few groups of people that African Americans have systemic power over. Native Americans, immigrants (especially ones who don't speak English, don't have visas, or don't have citizenship and therefore have no right to vote). The girl Penny was talking to clearly spoke English, but there's no way to tell if she's an American citizen or not. For all we know, Penny could have systemic power over her.
Tf you saying native America literally own slaves the five civilized tribes for example then they was ain’t give category of white which mean privileges stop writing shit out yo ass
Also, this entire scene feels incredibly disingenuous. That Asian girl never explicitly called Penny a racist. She just got annoyed with Penny for stereotyping her. Which, to be clear, Penny did do. And then her friends are just like "oh, she just called you racist, but you can't be racist, so you don't have to worry about it", which was completely unacceptable because a) that Asian girl never even said Penny was racist, *someone else* put those words in her mouth and b) Penny's choice to stereotype this girl was completely brushed off by both her friends and the narrative itself, in favor of pretending that black people are incapable of being prejudiced.
Honestly, It didn't look like Penny was stereotyping them, I thought she was just asking for them for help and went to them first because they were one of the people Penny knew. Sucks that ended up being the case, and out of Penny's character
Black people do not have systemic power over either of those groups lmao the fuck are you on about
How do black people have systemic power over native americans? The Cherokee tribe used to own slaves.
Immigrants that migrate legally can vote.
Everybody can be racist. I’ve been racially slurred by white men and women, black men and women, Mexican men and women and let me tell you it hurts and when I call out for it, they say the same thing that Penny said.
Mexican is a nationality, not a race, unless you mean native Mexicans. I'm really sorry that happened to you. White supremacy & erasure is still an issue here. You're not alone.
One time some kids made fun of me because I kept saying I was Puerto rican and Mexican and white (50% Puerto Rican, 25% Mexican, 25% white) but apparently I was too white or smth so they kept calling me fake Mexican 💀💀💀
common lighter Latino experience 😭
Black here and I’ve faced this exact kind of mindset. I don’t know how it got misconstrued that one can be exempt from racism but the truth is many black people have a problem addressing issues inside the community. I was born in the us and my moms Haitian so if someone asked what I was I’d clarify that. That amount of children that responded with “I don’t like Haitians” was crazy. Even more ridiculous was when I asked for their reasons it was always some flimsy “idk I just don’t”. One girl flat out said she had an issue with me now and I called her racist. The went to her saying “I’m not racist I just don’t like Haitians”. If a white person said that there would be hell to pay but no cause your black you get some gross exemption. It annoys me when media likes to only portray black people as unambiguously United to some issue and painting the picture that only something on the outside harms us. Sad truth is a lot of stuff that brings us down is glossed over cause it mean addressing internal problems that aren’t caused be outside factors. There were adults talking about a “racist” killing a black guy on his home when the truth was the guy broke in and appropriately got bodied for it.
Penny and her friends will decry Zoe for getting the affections of a light skin guy that doesn’t like darker girls. Nobody talks about that guys hookup and Zoe is the problem like wtf? The show has a very skewered perspective that hasn’t don’t well at addressing some of the big things they try to especially when it comes to race.
If she doesn't like people for their race or country they came from, then she is racist, even if she's that same race. Also I agree, this show does a terrible job of addressing racism! This shouldn't be on Disney channel for the CHILDREN!
Aww I'm so sorry you went through that. Being discriminated sucks bro :( like anyone can be racist, just because you have a different skin color from someone else doesn't exempt you from a negative quality like being racist y'know? Dam yea, we just all gotta learn to love each other and we should never justify racism!
I think the exact word for what happened to you would be xenophobic if it’s related to your nationality tho racist can be used too.
The main problem is arrogance and denial: people can't better themselves if they think they're in the right and its something they ironically adopted from the people they hate. Pettiness and revenge is a cycle of emotional stupidity.
As a haitian, I've experienced the same things as well😕
I'm white, half Mongolian. I grew up in inner city Minneapolis. I was shot in the back at a young age by a black man who wanted me dead for the color of my skin. I was crippled from the waist down because of racism. But it didn't turn me racist. Why? I was raised right. I look at the individual, not the people. Not the skin, not the way they speak, just their words and actions
That guy would find you weak.
are we supposed to applaud you for not being racist? you did the bare minimum it’s not impressive
But the truth is you’re stronger then he’ll ever be
you don’t get a pat on the back for not being racist
@@702d02You don’t need one
in september a black kid kept insisting i had a "chinese face" and that "if i asked any chinese person they'd tell me i had a chinese face"... in vietnamese :/
Oh brother, as a black person this embarrasses me so much🥲like when did we all agree to this???
Believe me as a person of color I have seen my share of moments like these.
I'm not POC but I definitely have seen moments like that too, I was once banned from a Discord server for saying that it's possible to be racist to white people and sexist to men. Also because I liked South Park.🤦
@@Gametoon05 True true.
@@Gametoon05 Hope that server got raided
@@Gametoon05😑
Me too.
I had a black teacher who kept saying black people can't be racist and when I tried to give evidence of blacks being racist, she dismissed it because the example I gave wasn't of the blacks in the US.
I had a black math teacher trying to go against all the whites in the class by talking about ancestors once
Try using the "Nation of Islam" or Black Israelites as an example. Most of those people thing blacks are the master race and their based in the US.
you should have said that black people is racist towards latino immigrants too
@@ninjafalls1739 I had a white teacher who was obsessed with black people. He had BLM flags, several black national flags, and posters of black people. He had a doctorate in African American Studies. I took English 11 with him and the second semester of that class was literally black history/crt class. I remember learning about how black people were "kidnapped by white people" and sent away to stolen Native American land. I had a Chinese friend who hated this crap and spoke out against. He could sort of get away with it because he wasn't white, unlike me.
@@mr.cheese8604 I'm guessing he did not mention who actually did the "kidnapping"?
So glad to see so many people not falling for this bullshit and calling it out.
The original was so good dispite it's flaws (Penny's toxic friend group), but instead of fixing those problems in the reboot they add a whole new crap ton of them! The toxicity, entitlement, hypocrisy and victim mentality of the main characters is ruining what could have been a great continuation of a beloved childhood series.
I'm definitely sticking with the original and leaving this in the trash where it belongs.
Doesn't matter if you are white black or yellow anyone can be racist even if you don't realise it
i understand your point completely but do not call asian people yellow LMAO
@@glabblele i don't get why yellow isn't acceptable but white, black, brown, sometimes red is honestly
"Black people can't be racist" is an incredibly privileged stance to take. Which makes it racist by their own definition.
"Black people cant be raci-"
*Uncle Ruckus theme approaches*
It’s funny I thought Ruckus was only racist to black people, but the “Red Ball” episode speaks for itself.
word for word
*racist trombone noises*
@@dannydanumba2619 *racist tuba noises
@@dannydanumba2619it’s actually the Emperor’s theme from Star Wars played on Tuba
A black person called me a marshmallow and then said this in LGBTQ hangout lol
i love how that one girl was like "We can't be jerks", and then Dijonay popped up like "I'm here". perfect timing
"black people can't be racist" "I agree, racism is prejudice PLUS power"
Did they just said that black people are inferior?
What kind of message is that?
Can literally kill someone for the color of their skin but it doesn't count as a hate crime because a white dude is president (or something like that who even knows).
Why are you surprised? In my home state, the left was up in arms because the state made it illegal for campaign volunteers to go to polling booths and hand out "VOTE FOR ME" bottles of water to people standing in line.
When people asked why that was a problem, they claimed that minorities would be disadvantaged and thirsty.
To which I would say "I'm sorry, do you think a black man is too stupid to bring his own water?" .
They'd get really quiet after that.
Thats pretty racist to me 😂
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No , black people have been systemically oppressed and have been prevented from having the social powered required to execute systemic racism. We do not have the same power white people do , not because we are inferior but because white people have rigged the game.