How Static Shock Tackles Racism Better Than The Proud Family Reboot
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2023
- The Proud Family reboot, Louder and Prouder, and the Scooby Doo reboot, Velma seem to have a lot to say about racism... Too bad they're not saying much of anything.
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Thank you for saying something. Racism isn't an exclusive thing done by "white" people. These shows really do fail at encouraging people to improve themselves instead of falling into the racial attitudes & excuses of the past generations.
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Racism is literally only done by white people, because the state acts on behalf (ostensibly) of white people.
No US financial or government institutions acts on behalf of minority populations to the exclusion or detriment of whites.
Alright, watch this video, and if you still feel that way afterwards, then you're being purposely ignorant. ruclips.net/video/BFpUjyM0orQ/видео.html
Racism technically is something only white people can do if we go off the definition of racism
Racism is being prejudice towards someone because of their race. Anyone is capable of racism, we're all humans at the end of the day.
The irony of Velma is Mindy Kaling comes from a rich family, went to private school, never worked a job in her life prior to Hollywood and only got into Hollywood because of her parents money and influence. She has far more in common with Fred than she does with Velma
I was going to say. it really is frustrating that all these wealthy nepo babies preach about privilege while ignoring how much they have themselves.
And I would bet her just like Kamala Harris owned slaves.
Her version of Fred*
@@chheinrich8486 now what is the problem with this episode
@tolikkazan9889 they really did my mans Fred dirty in that dumb reboot....well they did everyone dirty, but Fred's character in particular just had my whole jaw on the floor.
To be fair, Velma does almost everything wrong
everything.
just everything.
@@anderto4 Hey, they got the original designs vaguely correct on a few characters.
@@makeda6530 e v e r y t h i n g , n o e x c e p t i o n s .
Almost??
@@damotoneko1500it does it’s job of being fraggin’ terrible.
Lets end racism by being racist. Great job guys
We solved racism.
@@boneheadlemonade /s
/s
“You can’t be racist to wyt ppl”
- dipshits
@@boneheadlemonadethank you skipper, now I am free to roam this earth
I actually can’t believe the loud family legitimately said “black people can’t be racist” a Disney show and no repurcussions in the show they just straight up said it.
disney just goes along with anything that will keep ratings up. Not surprising
Slavers would disagree
As a black person, I disagree strongly. I'm probably more racist than all of you.
@@realdragon literally every race were slavers and slaves at one point in history. No race is guiltless of the crime of slavery. It’s a human crime not a race crime.
@@Coolkid99880 It's not only human "crime", 1 species of ants do slavery all the time
Static shock has great episodes about racism, bullying, gun, dyslexia, loosing a family member, etc
But it was also the sign of the times and talks about basic racism
Static shock was the shizzle
Homelessness
@Hunter_RQ
Yeah my mom passed away in December, and I tell ya seeing both episode dealing with Static's mom hit like a truck as a result.
not to mention mental dissorders as well
There’s no such thing as reverse racism, there’s just racism. Doesn’t matter what color you are
for real.. if someone believes reverse racism is real ask them if there's reverse burglaries too
I agree! I'm a black autistic 22-year-old woman and this anti white crap is retarded to me.
I can only wonder what the two deleted replies said
@@ohiyoresident same
In America though, white people literally can't experience racism because it's also systematic. Prejudice yes, but that's about it.
“Sean may have been a racist jerk, but that doesn’t mean that Richie was, and that doesn’t mean that Richie should have to feel responsible for his father’s actions or beliefs.”
I feel like this point is often overlooked today. If one white person is racist towards another race, that doesn’t mean every single other white person in the world should feel responsible for that one white person.
More and more people nowadays seem to be looking at things through a collectivist lens rather than an individualistic one. The West was built on individualism, and a lot of its success can be attributed to the concept of individual rights which was gradually built and expanded upon that individualism. By going back to collectivism, the west is going backwards, not forwards. Personally, I think the answer is to legally focus on individualism and individual rights while building a sense of community which encourages people to want to contribute to the community of their own free will, but it's a difficult balance to achieve. Either way, encouraging a popular belief that the sins of the father pass on to the son is not liable to end well.
@@tiagodecastro2929 The west is now about picking sides. Red pill, blue pill. Conservative or progressive. White or black. Male or female. America especially. They are split in half and constantly discriminate each other, thinking of their side as "the right side" when both sides have obvious, horrible flaws. Even centrists are fucked up. Back in the days of 1980-2010 individualism was huge, but people lost grasp of that.
@@tiagodecastro2929this is why ı hate politics. İts super collectiwist.
@@Vilgax00how tf did the capital I steal the dot from the lowercase one?
@@htfs493 wut???
I once got kicked out of a group chat because the host of it found out I was white. When I confronted him about it, he was like "I don't want your people in my chat." I was like bruh what, and he goes "ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE RASCIST!!" and I was like "First up, you're wrong. Secondly, i have friends and family from multiple different cultures, I mean my great grandmother is Navajo Indian and I got cousins who are half black." he was like "Yeah that's what all you white people say."
Like I joined the chat to meet people and just chill and talk, that was the first thing I got hit with "YOU'RE WHITE, SO YOU'RE RACIST!" You can be racist while being any color, and I won't lie I do sometimes say things that come off that way, but I catch myself and I apologize.
Racism is not ok, nor is discrimination of any kind. No matter your skin color, age, culture, gender, or sexual identity, WE ARE ALL HUMAN!
Yikes. Sorry to hear that.
That's the problem with modern ideology. It's not removing racism It's making racism worse but justifying it.
look, as a person of color being white doesn't make you a bad person!
the beliefs these shows push are the same racist beliefs we've been told for years; "white people and people of color can't be in the same spaces together!" it's the very thing we've BEEN fighting against!
I've heard people say that
"people who are the minority or are oppressed can't be racist!"
Which isn't true in the least, racism is a messy two way street with people driving on the wrong side of the road whenever it tickles their fancy.
I've had someone who got in a relationship with another person and this person wasn't taking it slow even remotely...three days in and they were making creepy couple videos and posting them on youtube...three. days. in...and they had someone (who we think might have been a fake double account) watching and gushing over their every interaction (practically hardcore shipping two irl people)
And we went to confront them about how she was freaking this guy out and she pulls the "yOu'Re AtTacKInG Me CaUSe i'M bLaCK!11!"
We didn't even care to look at her pfp...we said we didn't know, nor that we cared...
Apparently they are a victim and empowered... like they think they're the Schrodinger's cat of social justice warriors!
There will always be someone, somewhere trying to bank off of someone else, or try to use an aspect of themselves that's the new minority to play the victim for the crowd that they can gather and control, to push an agenda that benefits themselves.
Was actually apart of a Discord group which was similar, they treated white people like absolute fucking scum. Would take artwork of characters alter their skin tone from white to another and "perfected" them. Honestly, I find it kind of shameful that "we a minority so we can't be racist!" Excuse cause that's what it is. A FUCKING EXCUSE! They preach for equality from white people then as soon as they get it. They treat white people like shit.
In summary.
Old Cartoons: "you're racist but you can change"
New cartoons: "You're racists because you are white."
basically they think that racism is only against black people and use that to combat racism with racism
we all know velma is a horrible cartoon and so the messages are
And its crazy how much the "you're racist because you're white." Is reflecting in new cartoons. Because there are colored haired people these days that actually say that despite being white themselves. And then there's people who feel offended for someone else.
😂name on show that's said that
@@oceanstormer4973 Velma
@@user-qg4sf4ei7j Tell me exactly what they said and what scene it was.
“Anyone is capable of racism and anyone that is racist is capable of changing”
*FINALLY*
I know right?
But many of the hypocrites of today try to ignore that fact.
that quote should be tattooed on the head of everyone of those self righteous SJW's
@@araja90 Ew SJW's
@@araja90
Well said!
If SJWs ignore it it’s because they’ll be left without straw villains.
"use your white privilege!!"
Bro is screaming that shit like it is some kind of superpower 😭😭😭
That's a thing?! *Starts colouring skin with peach Crayola markers*
Why they treating it like a dragon ball powerup 💀💀
"WHI-WHI-TE PRIVEEEEELEGE!!!!!"
Has anyone, white or black, ever specified what white privilege is?
Context to the scene : he’s shouting that to his husband. His openly GAY husband.
Like sir….you aren’t exactly doing much. That’s like going on vacation and asking your friend to order in Spanish because you don’t know how to speak Spanish, but they only know German.
"No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite."
-Nelson Mandela
How original.
That quote seems much more for that Static Shock episode than Velma and The Proud Family reboot.
@@alonzomonroy8149It’s unoriginal but it’s very much a good and true message
@@NaimChowdhury-cj4kk more like cheesy
@@alonzomonroy8149 but it’s still true
I once read about a tattoo artist in Tennessee who covers up racist or hateful tattoos for free. His reasoning behind offering his service for free when covering hateful tattoos was so kindhearted: “Anyone can change. And I believe in second chances.”
Tennessee is one of those states that has, for about 3 decades now, been seeing a lot of people wising up to how bad they really are and trying to change their ways. There are a few stubborn goats out there, but I've seen it myself, people are getting less bigoted over time for the large majority on all sides, and it's a good thing. Props to the tat man for helping a good change.
@@buffcode that might be the case in bigger cities but coming from a relatively small town it definitely ain't better everywhere
@@theh2016 i came from a town of less than 1,000, and it was getting better there too. Yo town just got that racist dog in'm.
AS a Memphis native, this warms my heart.
@@theh2016 I can relate
I went to a small town for half a year, the people in that town slinged racial slurs around like it was a 1950's town. There was literally only one black person in said town.
You don't beat racism with payback, you beat it by reconciliation.
fr, violence just breeds violence
Especially with shit that didn't happen to you.
@@artsmart_5805 but in the end...
@@hollowgab6531 it has to be this way
@@misterboxhead3045 * epic music *
Static showed Richie's father as a misguided human. He was wrong for hating Virgil but was shown to be a decent enough guy to go looking for his son. He even admitted to Virgil's father he was worried about him and wanted to do what's best for him. Even if it was misguided.
Then in the Christmas episode, you can see him with Richie in a multi-faith mass meant for everyone who considered themselves the Children of God to worship and praise Him. He was scowling, yeah, but just being there showed character growth.
Fast forward twenty years and now we have Penny Proud shaming her own friend for going out with a black boy who had a preference for white women. That was his only crime. Was the kid a "race traitor?" Is it wrong for white and black people to date each other? How is it that 50 years after the Civil Rights Movement we find ourselves back at square one?
It was really Penny's friends. Penny just ended up getting put in the middle of it and stuck because of them. She did lean a tiny bit towards the other girls instead of standing up for Zoey. I'll admit that.
I have two friends who are in a relationship, one is a white girl and the other a black boy. I don't see anything wrong with them dating and I'm happy for both of them. Love should just be a natural and beautiful thing that brings people together, regardless of their background.
Don't know how you are back to square one. Where I live there's tons of mixed families and different races and no one gives a shit because it has been like that for a long time and also there's a lot of tourists passing through. We've literally been taken over and ruled with an iron fist by the Turks for 5 centuries, they tried to force us to change our religion, gave us little freedom, even took children from their families to train and enlist as enichars, to serve the sultan. Do we still have some lingering problems from all that? Yes, we are still weary. Do we blame every Muslim or Turkish person and acting like racists towards them? No, we are good neighbors and here in the south we even share holidays and exchange gifts, it is great. Even the Roma we tolerate, as long as they don't lurk and try to steal something, which happens. One jumped the fence at my grandparents' and almost stole the kazan before my grandpa and a neighbour chased him down with sticks and stones. They even threw some at his and his buddies' getaway car and managed to return some stolen iron and electric tools to the other neighbours. There's reason everyone keeps a rolling pin by the door.
I think this situation, although somewhat set up, perfectly sums this up.
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"You're still a slave, Angron. Enslaved by your past, blind to the future. Too hateful to learn. Too spiteful to prosper."
Ah, Warhammer quote
@@patrik9328Past all the gratuitous violence, a lot of violence admittedly, there’s great quotes to reflect on.
@@collecter343Father, how could you not see this coming? My last name is literally Heresy!!!
-John Horus Heresy
@@rythofthefourthhouse7104 Congratulations Horus, you are now the Warhammer 40,000.
~Jimmy Space
This is! This Wh30k Quotes (because i remember it comes from Horus heresy series) this quote is somehow match perfectly with these types of People! Slave to the Past! Too hateful to learn and too spiteful to prosper
The fact that louder and prouder teaches this message to CHILDREN is another point.
Telling a child "you're responsible for all of the horrible things anyone who vaguely looks like you has ever done" is such a horrible thing.
Oh my god I remember that song in one of the reboot episodes... It was atrocious. Everything they said, how ALL white people should feel guilty about black people's condition. How they should "pay for all their mistakes". Absolutely ignorant and harmful message!! Especially to children. I feared that the reboot would end up like this anyway... Every show was getting contaminated by that vague of racial hate and entitlement...
You've missed the point of what the proud family was addressing, They're speaking of "Collective Responsibility" and Systematic Rasicm" that still disenfranchised people of color while benefiting Caucasian, To make Rasicm an individualistic problem is the cynical white washing of history and socioeconomics.
Remember, this is the same company who still hasn't tried to apologize or backpedal in any way for all of the many controversies with Mulan 2020 (filming near a Uyghur concentration camp, actively working with the Chinese propaganda arm that's involved in running said camp and thanking them in the credits, allowing their main actress to support police brutality in Hong Kong, and trying way too hard to be culturally sensitive without having a single chinese person, or even just a guy that's actually familiar with Chinese history and culture outside of Panda Express for that matter, on the writing/producing/directing team).
They don't care about the mental well being of children, they don't care about social equality, they only care about the green.
@@MDLuffy1234YT So that's why Mushu wasn't in it?
Basically the Sins of the Father mentality
I think the biggest reason that it doesn't come off as disingenuous or racist is because static does what all shows should do, show don't tell. The actions of the characters proved or disproved the ideologies while the words help cement what side of the argument they are on. That's how you do visual storytelling.
Yeah, couldn't have said it better myself.
This point is one Hollywood doesn't seem to get not just in this case but alot projects. Captain marvel is a great example of this in it they tell me who carol is but they never show me.
Exactly, that's the problem with shows nowadays. They want to Tell instead of show.
Static shock represented Racism through how Vergil was being treated in the first episode. Without ever mentioning anthinf about his race of the color of his skin. And then they had an episode solely focused on how he's being treated. And the best part they never mentioned anything about race. The used You People and Them, which applies to anyone. But the writers knew that their audience was smart enough to know exactly what they were emplying.
@@misterOrca4 yeah the proud family colorist episode was wasted potential instead of having the boy be openly racist/colorist they just tell us
Not to mention, it doesn't make much sense in the context of kids. Something about the image of a 6 year old watching a show about "white fragility and privilege" doesn't sit right with me. You'd think the writers would be clever enough to be able to entertain children, but also write it in a way that the message isn't lost on you and could even be revisited when older, like with Static Shock.
It’s just depressing when something says it’s against racism, but is extremely racist itself. The hypocrisy is disgusting.
yo preach lmao but your pfp is FIRE
@@oldlactationbigsandwich17 I'm not preaching anything, I was pointing out how messed up the double standards are
Nah i ment it in a good way
Why did I send 2 of thr same thing lol
Also invaider zim's peak
Gotta say, humanizing the dad character and having him change and grow as a person is a superb way to tackle racism
Well yeah, obviously. Because human beings are not as simple as cartoonishly evil villains. People are rational, even if their reasoning is faulty. Even if a person's reason for believing something is based on an untruth, they are still using their faculty of reason to come to such a conclusion. Humans are complex and rational beings. Rational, of course, doesn't always mean right, it just means that we think. All the more reason to believe in people and accept a change of heart.
@@sakamotosan1887uhh, sorry but you're wrong. Many people ARE simply evil and are irrational. Also even being rational doesn't mean that a person can change
Humanizing the dad is so important. Racists are human. They might be wonderful in other areas of their life. While being racist is obviously terrible, you have to be mega racist for it to define your entire building
Being*
That line "Use your white privilege" in Proud Family, was so cringe lol. On behalf of black people everywhere, I can assure you that we don't think it works that way 😂
Update:
This thread descended into chaos so quickly, and I am not sorry. Not sure how we got on the topic of Kinks and furries... Yeah...
"Pull your White Privilege out of your pocket and help me!" 😂
This makes me giggle 🤣
The white guy in question was also a cop? Like *that* woulda been the thing to bring up first, they were all getting arrested. Like "Use the fact that you're a cop to stop the other cops" not "Quick, use your white". I like how they showed it didn't even work though, white dude got arrested too (though that makes me wonder what the point of that line was).
If only
I can assure you theirs many black people out their that do
But it's not your fault neither is the ones who don't think this way
Theirs just racist people out their and we can't do anything about it
The best part of static shock is that they didn’t treat the father as bad because he was white. He was bad for being racist but his race had nothing to do with it. He even grew and became a better person. They showed his racism came from a place of anger towards other situations and he projected his issues onto young people and the black community. They also showed how people of all races have something in common, the love they have for their children
Saying Slavery helped build America is ironically an argument made by pro slavery defendants before it’s eventually abolishment.
It was horrible how Zoey's friends treated her at that colorist episode. And most of her friends even had Boyfriends, like....maybe the characters are low key sociopathic
They’ve always, canonically, been terrible friends yep. That was even in the original show.
And I actually always liked Zoey bc she seemed the least selfish, toxic friend that Penny had unlike Lacienega and Dijonay who were narcisstic and self centered AF
I was pissed because now zoey is gonna wonder if a boy with skin only likes her because she’s white because the brat pack was jealous she attracted the celebrity and not them
@@simsgirlgem Exactly and the fact that the show only made it seem that because she was nerdy she only deserves a nerd and her friends were NOW fine with it. Wow.
@@digimonalvatrax2738 and then didn’t even have him be a jerk to prove the point had he said nah you’re friends are ugly because they’re dark I would definitely agree yeah dump he’s a jerk but nothing besides he likes white skin
In "Static Shock", being racist and bigot is portraited as an individual choice, a choice you can also rethink, in order to become a better person.
In "Louder and Prouder", racism and bigotry are portraited as some sort of original sin, from which you should atone ALL. THE. TIME.
The all the time thing is what really gets me, because living your whole life with that weight on your shoulder can only build frustration and resentment
its not i think what happened over 200 years ago was a good thing, it absolutely was not, but living in the past is never a good thing, people need to move on and live a better life on what they have now and not continuing to play victim on slavery. I also dont like how all media now is bashing on abraham lincoln, one of if not our greatest president of all time as being a failure as a president, because whether black people like it or not, lincoln was the one to help abolish slavery, he helped make sure black people lived in america and have better lives, some things were true that slavery wasnt completely abolished right away and lincoln thought of deporting blacks, but in the end he thought of the best option for eveyone, and if thats not considered being a great president idk what is, and if people want to keep living in the past of how things were, and not move forward, then we as humans and americans are never going to move forward from bigotry towards both blacks and whites
@@morganicsmoothie964 Which then that resentment winds up creating racist thoughts and ideals, and then nothing changes
@@heehooobsessor7907 precisely! Spite can essentially convince people who are simply misguided to become actively racist. not that it's an excuse, but it definitely pushes them in the wrong direction
@@heehooobsessor7907 sometimes I think they're actively seeking for this. Their modus operandi feels like a doctor who creates a disease, and then, sells the vaccine.
How funny is it that a cartoon from the 2000s can handle the topic of racism better than a modern cartoon and an "adult" animated show made today.
No kidding.... not only racism but religon too. I remember how in Blues Clues, back when Steve is still around that we get to learn what other people outside of Steve house are doing. Steve go to a toy workshop and take the odd toys to give as a gift for all Blue' friend(teaching kids that is good to be different) and then when he go to his friend house, we got to see what kind holiday they are celebrete.... now day, they dont that kind of episode anymore becuase of the word "too offensive" or "too religous"
Educate, don't separate 👍🏼
What I love the most about that episode is that the father redeems himself. He's allowed to redeem himself, instead of just being portraited as irredeemable
Yea it depends on the view on the person who wants to tackle racism. Some people want to see racist characters or people just be irredeemable jerks that get brutally killed. I can understand that sometimes but realistically, you can't just kill every racist.
@@mosshivenetwork117 Nobody should be killed because of what they believe.
@@spehhhsssmarineer8961 I guess
@thomasthecommentrater3703 Ditto
@@spehhhsssmarineer8961Okay what about MAPs and child predators? Idk man some things don’t need to be “believed” in.
Static Shock does a better job because they just asked the audience to reflect on their own behavior instead of their message assigning blame and fault.
And ironically, the conversation between Mr. Hawkins and Mr. Foley is exactly why the other shows usually fail at the conversations.
_"What your son heard...I wasn't talking about him."_
_"No, you were just talking about his 'kind'."_
Flip flop the colors in that conversation and what Mr. Hawkins is calling him out on is the exact argument those other shows try to use: no, you're not talking about your white friend, _just their kind._ It's a very hypocritical argument, and it's very hurtful to people who _are_ working hard to help dismantle racist social structures. "Sins of the father" is a disgusting belief no matter who applies it.
By all means, be angry about institutional racism that makes it possible for white people to escape consequences or whatever, but be sure in venting those frustrations that you don't wind up being generally racist yourself.
You should help Dismantle Critical race theory because part of its postulates is that White people helping blacks are doing it out of self interest or image and not because they genuinely believe in the cause nor they don't hold those racist beliefs.
In other words, even the white people helping you are secretly racist and looking after themselves.
Black criminals are almost never reported kn and it's always a massive tragedy when one of them gets killed, even if it's in the middle of commiting a violent crime.
But sure, it's the white people who get off easy.
Yesss
This right here!!!!
Thank you
Thank you for this video. It helped me work through something really painful and I’ll never forget that.
Thank you for watching. I’m glad my video was able to help you in some way.
I’ve always tried to tell my mom this but finally someone else understands. You can’t just call a group of people bad because 20% said this. She thinks almost everyone is racist to the point where I think she might be. It’s kinda disappointing if I don’t say so myself.
She's on the "if I hate everyone equally it's not racist" mindset
@@Mercury-ok8ieThat classic misanthrope grindset
One of them is racist, has serious victim complex & wants to divide communities by depicting others as villainous people. The other is static shock.
one of them tries to play the victim card, blame a whole race of people, and don't believe people can change. The other one is an amazing DC superhero show that is just better in general. Static shock for the win baby
@@artsmart_5805 Static was one of my favorite superheroes as a kid. I watched the show semi-religiously. I just found Virgil Hawkins to be supremely relatable.
One of them tries to play a victim card for something that never happened to them and acts like they should be rewarded for something they didn't go through and every race has gone through before in history
Another was honestly just a goofy show that pretty much was just making white guys look dumb
And then the other is static shock
At least static didn't shove it in our faces about racism like proud family did
Exactly.
Maybe because people who aren’t black ignore it?? We’ve been talking about racism for way to long. Black people are still being attacked because of their race… so maybe you do need that push because obviously a show in the 90’s wasn’t enough and MLK wasn’t enough…
You see how horrible they’re treating the new actress of the little mermaid vs the Korean actress…
@@pizzaroll7243 first off I'm black and I don't get obsessed over racism I choose to let it go because that's in the past plus no hate to halle bailey but disney shouldn't have blackwashed ariel they could've created a new black mermaid and have her to be ariels friend instead of doing it the lazy way by blackwashing
@@patrickjennings431 and I'm black working in the police force and volunteers with activist and community groups. Racism very much is not in the past and there are people today still going through it. If racism was not a thing then people wouldn't talk about it, politicians wouldn't try to hide it and death tolls wouldn't be rising. Racism is but one piece in a systematic issue that effects everyone, and it's why solving each piece that holds us back from building a better society is important. If your complaint is that the topic of racism is "shoved in your face" then don't pretend that you actually care about the subject, because you're actually part of the conversation at that point.
@@nojusticenetwork9309 because I'm here to be entertained not to be lectured to about it that's why entertainment exists is to escape from the problems we're facing. When you keep lecturing us about racism over and over again especially in entertainment and making villains like erik killmonger sympathetic that becomes a problem
pov: you claim to be so anti-racism that you loop around and become racist
"You have become the very thing you swore to destroy!"
@@ethanol294 *"You were the chosen one!"*
It's insane to think that the Boondocks, a show that was parodying a lot of things about blacks and whites in general, and racism of course, got more accurate and subtle than Proud Family...
The Martin Luther King JR scene just never be allowed to be made these days, despite being more relevant now than ever
No modern cartoon can ever hold a candle to Static Shock tackling issues, the way they handled the school shooting episode was pretty serious and heartfelt.
Cause back then kids were mature enough to learn these kind of issues, now days they need to wrapped in cotton wool
Ngl they seriously had balls to tackle such a heavy topic as school shooting. And I love it. They nailed the execution and it had to be discussed to understand why it happens and how we could prevent it. I really respect that show.
I truly miss the heyday of American comic book animation
@@mrowley7300 It hasn't changed how mature children are, what has changed is the way children are being raised and who has had such influence. A more conservative mindset borne from a reaction to a more image-conscious and connected world is to blame.
Being unable to create something more serious because of societal constraint is a conservative action, to constrain social convention with intention to protect the eyes or social norms of others. By definition it leans on the scale to autocratic rule, because to decide for others is an autocratic action.
If you would blame anyone at all for the cost to the arts, it is conservative doctrine, not liberal doctrine, that is to blame.
I did like the episode you mentioned, but my problem with it was the ending with Ritchie when he is shot and is acting like this is new. The guy stands with Static through way worse than a bullet but him getting shot is new?
I think it would help if it wasn't Ritchie that was shot but a different kid.
I like your take on how people who are racist can still improve themselves. This is what other shows like the proud family louder and prouder fail to address, that even if a person is racist, they can still change. However, they just deem white people as the problem who are incapable of change. Those messages is what keeps racism going and humans divided. I subscribed to your channel.
Thank you for the support. I appreciate it. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I hope you look forward to and enjoy future videos.
Even with racism not being the issue, concepts such as redemption and forgiveness are gradually being outmoded by selective outrage, and almost lifelong shame.
And leads to Genocide. Look up Haiti Genocide of 1804. Even the French who sided with the Native Haiti people against slavery were genocided.
As for the Poles? For there help they were called the "White negroes of Europe"
@@violacadbury8343 You can definitely still decide to be better person regardless if redemption or forgiveness is in the cards for you.
Facts, with these new shows is basically Black = Superior and Flawless, White = Racist & Inferior.
Martin Luther King Jr once said, "I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character." As a white guy, I judged by the color of my skin A LOT.
Listen I totally understand what you were going for but I feel like pulling the MLK quote in for this specific argument feels weird
@@marxm2253 I kindly ask, why?
@@Trey_816 it just kind of feels like misinterpreting the original meaning. Yes, this specific saying works for this argument, but MLK was known as a black figure fighting against white supremacy, so it feels strange to use his speeches to say something about white people, you know? It's not incredibly harmful, just feels weird to do.
@@marxm2253 I see it as addressing racial injustice as a whole. Not just blacks and whites. I have lost count of how many times I've been called a "cracker" or "coloniser" for example. And I can't do anything about it. But if the roles were reversed, I could punch someone in the gut. I can't walk outside without being ostracized for things that are just completely out of my control. I didn't ask to be white! Almost every unwanted conflict I get involved in is racially motivated! I support BLM and things like that. But why should I be punished for things that I didn't do? Yes, some of my ancestors were slave owners, while others were abolitionists.
And because I am autistic, I do 100% admit that I do have a tendency to misinterpret things.
@@marxm2253 I think YT deleted my reply. Anyway, I see it as addressing racial justice as a whole, and not just blacks and whites.
And because I'm autistic, I do 100% admit that I have a tendency to misinterpret things. I can't exactly help it...
My mom told me about how my dad had to deal with a dude who was racist toward him. As they spent time together, he expressed massive regret for ever being racist and made things right with my dad. She concluded the story by saying that hatred is not something your born with, it's taught to you.
Velma and the Proud reboot are trying to teach and encourage hatred. But what good would that do for anyone? Did Martin Luthor King Jr ever try and combat hatred with more hatred?
I believe I've heard it called race baiting or even race grifting as they profit off the racial antagonism they stoke as the only talent they have is in causing division.
Completely. Unfortunately it seems to be an epidemic with these new outlandish Disney live action remakes, Cleopatra, Bridgerton Queen Charlotte as well causing so much discourse and polarity which (if you're on the "offending" side you're hateful and bigoted and narrow sighted.). Perpetuating this ridiculous melarky.
“Did martin luthor king jr ever try and combat hatred with more hatred” no but malcolm X did
@@ulisesojeda6096 Malcolm X changed his mind and became a devout follower of the "Real" Islam, so he was killed by the Nation of Islam.
@@edoardoturco8780 damn really? Well good for him the redemption part not the murdered part
It's kinda sad seeing this come from Disney because they also made Zootopia, which tackled racism in a much better way because it showed prejudiced against BOTH sides, and how prejudice against one side can lead to prejudice against the other.
The difference between Zootopia and Proud Family: Louder and Prouder is that the former is a original idea, while the latter is a reboot.
This is why originality is better than bringing back old properties. Bringing back old cartoons for nostalgia is a terrible idea.
Unless that old cartoon is from the Golden Age, like Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry or Mickey Mouse.
If they are desperate for new ideas with older characters, they could just do more crossovers.
@@kootunesscrewy It's not always a terrible idea, the Ducktales reboot was amazing. And that was also Disney.
@@aidanredding8058 That's what I said. Lol.
DuckTales is a part of the Mickey Mouse universe.
But yeah, I would agree that not all of the non-Golden Age reboots are bad. If anything, I enjoyed mostly all the post-WBA Scooby Doo reboots (except for Velma) and the Inspector Gadget reboot, while not better as the original, was more faithful than the boring Gadgetinis cartoon. The same can also go with Danger Mouse (2014), in which I kinda find it better than the original 1982 series, and (unpopular opinion) Teen Titans Go was pretty funny.
@@kootunesscrewyeh I have to admit, in spite of my hatred to Teen Titans Go, I can acknowledge that it can be funny
And it’s certainly not the worst reboot, cartoon, or superhero show in the world
Yeah but Judy is a cop and so is Nick now. The sequel may try to tackle the ACAB issues now
Love societys idea of solving racism with racism
Yeah, we are so not annoyed and pissed off right now!
1 taught me not to be racist, the other made me want to be racist.
I'm gonna say it right now: Racism is not an issue exclusive to black people, it's everyone's issue. Black people are capable of being racist to other ethnic groups as well i.e white people. This shouldn't be a matter of getting karma back at them or trading blows to get even with them, racism is bad in general. Instead of calling people out in the past for racism and blame in one every individual of future generation to stir a conflict and make them feel bad, show the cause and effect of racism and learn to be a better person. Understand and communicate properly.
Agreed. If all we do is trade who’s on top and who’s getting kicked into the mud, nothing will really change. The oppressed will become the oppressors, and the only excuse they will use is that the other side deserved it for past actions. The only way to really fix the system is to treat everyone the same instead of putting a specific group on a pedestal. Because things so far show that we as a species are incapable of lifting someone up without pushing down.
This is completely false 😂 white ppl can experience racism cuz the system is literally built FOR THEM like bffr.
No that’s prejudice not racism. Racism is prejudice + Institutional power. Only white people can be racist.
Just kidding lol.
Thank you
Adding on to this to put it in simple terms:
Oppression is not a prerequisite to discrimination. Its the product of it.
If we can accept men can be discriminated against just as much as women, then we should be able to accept that it can happen to white people too. It’s nowhere near as common but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, and ignoring it will only make things worse.
I really like what you said here. I'm Black myself and it's hard to make a point like this without being called a "sellout" . If people are shooting for equality and not control, static shock makes excellent examples of that. Equality. Not some "you guys did it first so its our turn" energy. Well done brother
I've been saying that for some time now. It's never been about social justice, it's about social revenge. It's going to end up perpetuating an endless cycle of hate (genuine hate, not the shit they claim is hate).
except that what static showed was very toned down.
and if you are being called a backstabber or sellout maybe look into why.
@@sharktenko267Of course it's toned down, at the end of the day it's still a kids TV show. So the fact that it tackled racism better than most adult TV shows is just sad.
Getting called anti-black for bringing this up to other black people feels like a slap in the face.
@@GhostLink92for me what the newer shows are doing is more like virtual signaling, that is why they just have the characters talking about racism as if they were reading it out of a textbook. The older shows tried to convey a message via good story-writing
I like what you said at the end, that anyone can be racist, but also that people who are racist can change. I feel like that's a very important point to make, that we can still help people understand their wrongs and change for the better rather than demonize and shun any and everyone who comes off as slightly prejudiced. Too many people are so quick to put others into a box and leave them there, never once thinking "maybe they just don't know. Maybe I should help them understand."
it’s 2024 let’s be honest with ourselves ☠️.. everybody knows what racism is and what they are saying. If you can say something racist you are old enough to know how it’s bad.
and it’s nobodies job to fix someone’s racism 😭 you sound like the type of person to say to a victim of bullying to “not take it personal” and “maybe they have something going on at home so don’t fight back”
@@marimulab Quite the opposite, I find self defense to be crucial in maintaining one's personal liberty. In simple terms, **** around and you will find out.
First and foremost, I am a Christian. I am called to forgive others for their transgressions against me. Even if they do not seek forgiveness, I am also called to show love and compassion and to witness for the lost.
Secondly, let's consider a hypothetical. Say you and a neighbor are having a conversation. You are black, he is white. You've said something he agrees with, he then says "you think like a white man."
According to society's modern definition of racism, that man is racist because he implied that you can't have that view if you're black. Do you just shun your neighbor now? Do you tell everyone in the neighborhood that he's a racist? Do you go out of your way to make him suffer for what he did?...or do you, I don't know, CLARIFY with him what he meant? This situation I hypothesize to you is a real one that happened with a relative of mine. In the end, the white man went back to the black man, after someone explained why that "compliment" may have been insulting, and apologized for his own ignorance. The black man actually didn't take offense, he knew that the white man meant it as a compliment and took it as such.
Please understand that I don't just make excuses and blindly defend people's terrible actions. Is terrorism wrong? Yeah! Should we fight back? Yeah! Should we defend terrorism? No!
What I'm saying is that we need to pump the brakes on the little issues and consider who said it, why they said it, and what they really meant. Let's talk about it.
Slight wrongs do imply great malice.
@@jothejoker6771 YOU are Christian so YOU have to forgive people that hurt YOU!
We don't have to forgive assholes. You do sound like you have the mindset of "Yeah he bullied you but just show him it's not okay and become friends!" bs. You can say you don't but you clearly have. Discrimination is one of the worst things people can do. Last time we had an extreme case of discrimination, 6 Million people died (and that's only one of the ethnicities). Did we tell them that it was wrong? Did we tell them what they did was not okay and that they should change? No. And it's good we didn't.
Thank you for making this video. Really cleared up the confusion that I have been having recently.
The difference between Static Shock and the "Woke" shows Proud Family and Velma did was portray an entire race as racist. Static Shock showed ignorance knew no color in multiple episodes. Static also showed that a hero rises above all hate, fear, and ignorance.
Exactly, and that's why Static is both a superior show to Proud Family and Velma, and also a great superhero.
they are entirely different shows from entirely different eras, racism is allot worse now then it was during the show run of static
@@sharktenko267 dude, don’t even try to pull that. Era is irrelevant. There’s a right way to do this kind of thing and a wrong Way to do this kind of thing. Static shock did it right, proud family did it absolutely horribly.
@@sharktenko267 It's Definitely not worse lmao, people just get offended by every little thing now. There were actual race wars and real systemic discrimination before, there is no systemic racism now other than ironically affirmative action.
@@christianbarrera3614 -_- you are very and extremely wrong.
Another show that also tackles racism pretty well was the original teen titans episode "Troq" it explains how despite how horribly starfire was treated and how rude the so called hero of that episode was she still acts responsibly knowing if she engages in whatever taunts and insults he will be getting the satisfaction the ending quote of the episode is ine that sticks with me forever
"Their will always be people who say mean words because you are different, and sometimes their minds cannot be changed. But their are many more people who do not judge others based on how they look or where they are from. Those are the people whose words truly matter"
I also appreciated that the "hero" guy in Troq didn't magically change his racist opinions at the end of the episode just because Starfire saved his life. He just considers Starfire to be "one of the good ones". And there was never a moment where any of the other Titans questioned Starfire's feelings. Cyborg and Robin both loved that guy, but the moment they found out what "troq" meant they were both ready to tear him to shreds on behalf of their friend.
Basically, some people don't want to change their views and the best thing you can do is distance yourself from toxic people and surround yourself with people who have your back.
@@chelseyleachman4 Add that to the fact that he declared humans as no better than troq, almost to the point of being Troq themselves, simply because they stuck up for Starfire. It gave us a very real take on how racists act
I was hoping someone brought this up. cartoon shows nowadays are all about comedy and goofyness. static shock, teen titans, batman etc... will forever be valued for just being great shows that were more than just comedy.
That's what sucks, now racism is handled as "whites are always wrong because of slavery in the 1800s, so even white people now are still wrong"
Even sadder, MLK Jr would utterly despise the modern movements for creating more division. He himself, said that we should not be judged by the color of our skin, but the color of our character.
Wanna know how the modern movements would take MLK's view if he was still alive today? He'd be marked a fake black, a coon, a racist.
Everything he worked for is effectively being washed down th drain, and he's rolling in his grave, watching as his dream has become a nightmare.
I was just about to mention that episode. One of the lines that stood out to me from that
episode, was when Starfire told antagonist: “You may not value my life, but I still value yours.” the message was that, although there will be hateful, bigoted people in the world, that shouldn’t stop you from doing the right thing.
Americans trying to solve racism with more racism.
"Black supremacy is as dangerous as white supremacy, and God is not interested merely in the freedom of black men and brown men and yellow men,"
"God is interested in the freedom of the whole human race and the creation of a society where all men will live together as brothers, and all men will respect the dignity and the worth of all human personality."
-MLK
"We shouldn't judge someone by their skin color, but by their personality." or smth like that
is that quote also from the GOAT MLK ?
@@anderto4it was content of their character but close enough
I hate green men
It's pretty sad how this is what's being marketed and advertiseed the kindergarteners on. I think the Disney channel proud family is just one big advertisement for racism and it's just a bad message instead of equality it's
" White supremacy is still existing even though we have no proof"
And that all white people are dumb because of something that happened near 200 years ago. That doesn't affect us and is completely irrelevant now.
That entire message is just sad and the fact 6 to 8-year-olds have to hear that throughout the show and people that used to like the original proud family have to listen to that garbage now is honestly just disappointed
Those overly trying to be “socially aware” and “fighting racism” end up being the most racists.
It's due to their viewpoints are skewed towards racism. It's a new version of self hatred and they think that changing others will absolve their own racist thoughts.
Exactly
My thing is why is it okay when it's towards black people and why is it when white people get poked back at (Or any racial group that heavily looks down on black people) all of a sudden this has to stop? Everyone puts a blind eye at the alarming amount of countries and ethnic groups that hate black skin even in their own community however when it's being rushed out by us racism is on everyone's mind now...
So in other words, 80% of the American democratic party.
Yeah, the irony hits 'em like a train.
Man, you NAILED this video! Instant Sub.
"Sons of the Fathers" and the Teen Titans episode "Troq" are two prime examples of how racism should be handled in a cartoon.
Also with the show “Teen Titans” from 2003 (dang that makes me feel old), when Starfire was a victim of racism for being Tamaranian, and Cyborg sympathized with her. The message it pushed was “you can’t always fix hateful people”. But shows like “Velma” and “Proud Family” try tackling racism by hating whites, which is also racist.
It also brought up a really good point. Starfire didn’t want to rock the boat. She could’ve kicked that guy’s ass, but if she does that she’s just ‘proving’ the stereotype.
It’s something people who are ‘othered’ tend to deal with often. You can’t complain or you’re ‘playing the race card’ or ‘shoving your sexuality down everyone’s throats’. You can’t be mad. You can’t be aggressive. Then you just ‘prove them right’.
Cyborg even says it. “You can’t do anything or it would just prove him ‘right’.”
So they rallied to support her. And she chose to be the bigger person. “I value your life even if you don’t value mine.”
An episode of Tangled tackled this issue very well.
Rapunzle is friends with Everyone except the candy shop man.
And he had his reasons. Even if Rapunzle didn't agree with him.
The episode clearly tells kids that "Not everyone is going to be your friend, so you shouldn't kill yourself for their attention, even if they have dumb reasons."
The way he says she's just like all the rest of them and her face afterwards always kills me, especially from personal experience, it really does truly hurt
I was born in 2003, just to make you feel older
@@edwardcierniak7879how does it feel to be 20?
I love how the token white girl of Penny's friend group is now the privileged white girl because a guy likes her more than the others. It's like what even is that reboot? The same people from the original can't be writing for that. Zoey was never treated differently for being the only white one and she never hated her friends for being black. They all used to like each other for WHO they are and never brought up WHAT they are.
Yeah they did that because they were jealous the famous guy noticed her instead of them. Instead accepting that they didn't get the guy and saying maybe he will notice me someday and moving on with life in the meantime
Y'all can't lie tho, you know most people have "preferences" for white girls and white guys and they don't even have to try😂
@@justingarrett2239 I get where you're coming from but like... Do you not realize those aren't the type of people anyone should be pining for? If I liked someone only to find out they didn't like me simply because of my skin tone, I would consider that a bullet dodged. The attraction would be gone because the person showed their true colors. Furthermore, if I found out they started dating my best friend solely because of their race, I wouldn't automatically treat my friend like it's their fault. The message on colorism that the episode was trying to send is understandable but the way it was executed ruined it - they acted like Zoey was some treacherous jezebel for something that was technically the guy's fault.
@@justingarrett2239 No, they don't
@@soya_kitchens you ever been on the internet? Yes they do
The Proud Family reboot doesn't even tackle racism. It perpetuates racism.
For telling it like it is?
There's a huge difference in what they propose to be the solution.
Static Shock seems to go with that confronting and talking about it can lead people to change for the better. Making oneself conscious to ones own behavior is the first step of correcting it.
Proud Family seems to not wanting to offer a solution. Just inform that this is the status quo, and that the status quo is unchangeable, and by learning to live with it, you should punish those who perpetuate it. There's no dialogue. Like the first example with the two men. "You have white fragility." "I don't know what that is, what do you mean?" "See there you go! More white fragility!" How do one expect anyone to understand and be able to change if the mere act of asking for an explanation is seen as offensive?
The issue about racism isn’t just about past racism. It’s about present racism, and how it affects living people throughout their lives. Static Shock did a fantastic job showing PRESENT racism as well as the conflict it brings through generations and shows the experiance of realizing its proximity. Learning that someone as close as your bestie’s dad is racist can be scary. Especially when that attitude is expressed via anger.
Proud family and Velma just use racism as an excuse or cause behind colored characters being racist and never addresses the hypocrisy nor internalization of racism as its own problem.
The Proud Family Reboot, not the orginal
Racism can come from different angles and degrees too. My white paternal grandma has said some racist shit about the latino people living across the street from her, and my mixed dad was shocked. He was talking about it to me later, and I said something like “Did you think she just wouldn’t be racist at all because she married a black man?” to which he said that he had.
The shit my grandma says upsets me, but I have racism in my brain too, and I’ve done my share of microagression bullshit. I just have to work on that and treat people better.
Very true. And at least in Velma's case it's from writers with economic privilege, further pushing them away from the experiences their characters are victimized for.
I remember that black girl who comented on slave build this country, saying facts that this is bs and fscts about history of slavery (news flash: not all slaves were black, first slaves in usa were withe, there were black slave owners, black slaves were sold by other black people on coastes of africa, when white man colonized africa slavery was alredy abolished so there were no white people taking black people from there, salvery happend in whole world and all races were enslaved and were slave owners), but in usa you dont learn facts about it, you dont learn about rest of the world history, so you are brought up in belive that slaves were slaves bcs of race witch is bs.
@@jopun3691Yes but the problem is when you say “We’ll whites were slaves too” “Africans enslaved each other.” In response only when black people bring up slavery or anything. It’s always brought up in a way that’s like “Oh well it happened to use to🙄.”
Okay many things happen to people but one only brings it up when we bring it up.
Static Shock did an amazing job of portraying actual racism in a very real and meaningful way.
yup
extreme ghostbusters too.
Static shock teach people to reconcile, Velma and The Proud Family teach to counter racism with more racism
static shock's lesson has the white guy redeeming themselves, which is palatable and very fitting for a story. The others are just angry and more realistic and stays angry because that's how it is irl, it doesn't have a happy ending
AHHHHHHHHH THANK YOU for having common sense. I’m like so glad someone saw this and went….but that’s racist. Thank you
“Anyone is capable of racism and anyone who is racist is capable of changing” true dat
Static Shock shows a realistic, albeit toned down, representation of racism and how it is best responded too. you don't see them putting all the blame on the "system" or acting like Richie's dad is some sort of unredeemable nazi just because he's white. When Virgil says "how can a guy like Richie have a father like that" his dad responds "Thats a question Richie's dad can't answer. that kind of hate feeds on itself". when the two dads confront each other Virgils dad explains that he's met people like him. a man whos concentrated too much on his work and grown not only ignorant of the world around him but has grown disconnected to his son. throughout it all the show treats Richies dad like a person which is the most important difference because it really allows someone to reach the root of the problem and allows the opportunity for us as a people to cooperate in the world together. sure not everything will be agreed upon and you won't have someone change overnight or in the perfect manner but it's the best way to solve these societal problems. At some point writers started pushing for more exciting or cathartic solutions to these problems acting like white people are simply the problem based on their skin color alone. acting like racism or ignorance is the worst crime ever and the society is and will always be tilted against people of color. this does nothing but alienate people and leave a bad taste in peoples mouths. scolding people and stereo typing white people simply makes things worse and is why people will avoid the topic of race, not because it's a controversial subject but to avoid confrontations like the one you see in the beginning of this video. its just sad to see the race issue perpetuated because some people would rather lash someone than communicate with them and try to come to an understanding.
This reminds me of Daryl Davis who instead attack and berate the Klan Members he tries to talk and befriending them he said that "When two enemies are talking, they're not fighting" and "when talking it doesn't have to be about race, it could be about anything you will find that you both have something in common. As you build upon those commonalities, you're forming a relationship and as you build about that relationship, you're forming a friendship. That's what would happen. I didn't convert anybody. They saw the light and converted themselves." with that he make over 200 of them give up their robes this proves that if you try to open up seek common ground and treat those with prejudice like a peoples and not super villain many of those prejudice will fade away overtime.
Bro really woke up and could've done anything but decided to speak fax les goo 🔥🔥
As a black person, Louder and Prouder really made me feel ashamed. I just want to apologize to everyone on its behalf. Yes, some people may still feel insecure here and there, which sometimes can't be helped, but that does not in any way give them the right to feel that it's justified for them to be horrible. This is getting too extreme..
Hey. Hope you’re doing ok.
Take it from someone who had to learn this particular thing the painful way more than they’d ever like to (albeit different circumstances and purposes).
You aren’t responsible for other people’s actions. You don’t have to apologize for what the show did.
I’m so sorry for any painful feelings you got from the show. And I hope you’re safe and doing ok out there.
@@CloudyWolf713 Aw, thank you for the sweet comment. I'm doing fine, just had to deal with getting my younger siblings to stop watching it so they wouldn't be influenced. Hope you're doing well too, and hope all the best :)
@@sharmeendrame478 Thank you. And likewise! ^_^
@@sharmeendrame478nice to know that SOMEONE’S still doing the good work out there even if they’re not being recognized for it. Keep it up, whoever you are.
@@eeyorehaferbock7870 😊
Static Shock is one of the most beloved morning cartoons here in Brazil. Loved by anyone from any race or skin color, It was a big part of our childhood here. I miss shows with good morals and advice like that.
Static Shock allowed me back over a friends house growing up. We both dealt with racist parents, but their parents watching Saturday morning cartoons got them to realize there’s no point in punishing us kids over racism.
Static Shock was an amazing show. We loved watching Static Shock, Jackie Chan Adventures, and Pokémon. Grew into Toonami together as we lost Saturday morning cartoons.
It’s absolutely criminal that you don’t have more views or subscriptions. It’s pathetic that a show created 2 decades ago tackled serious topics better than two recent cartoons targeted at different demographics. As you said, all they did is paint everything, ironically, black and white. Thank you for such a great and informative video. :)
Thank YOU for the support. I hope you stick around because on top of talking about more topics similar to this, but I also plan to review video games. If that doesn't sound like your cup of tea, then thank you for the support for this video and have a good night. ✌
It's pretty. It's sad like I know I'm just kind of repeating what you said but it's genuinely disappointing over the time span of 20 years most shows have either gotten so many sequels it just turns to garbage (like Kung Fu Panda 4) or it just becomes some reboot show that still thinks white supremacy exists (like Velma and proud family)
Meanwhile, older shows such as static shock, Batman beyond the original teen Titans and more. Are all 20 times better than this new garbage
Something that probably doesn’t add on but ima say it anyway: in The Proud family: Louder and Prouder, the main character specifically says: “black people cant be racist!” I’m sorry what of course they can 💀
I’m a black dude but the way I cringe at folks when they say black ppl can’t be racist and in my mind I’m like, “but… we can, it’s just not right to do so I don’t”. It baffles me
Even though Sean was a clear and realistic example of a racist, the show was still mature enough to acknowledge that he’s still human. That Sean wasn’t capable of changing or questioning his very negative lifestyle, that he was able to improve himself and as a result, build better connections with others around him including Richie.
Modern shows like Velma and Prouder are so desperate to find a face for their dart board, that they will ignore all realism and possibilities within human behavior that don’t involve senselessly hating one side.
I’d say that the reason why this example with Static Shock also handled Racism better is because it tackled Racism on an individual basis instead of trying to push it on a Collective Basis. If an individual does something wrong it makes complete sense to call them out and try to correct the behavior. But if you try to punish an individual for the actions of someone else simply because they are “in the same group” all you’re gonna do is end up causing more resentment. Individuals don’t like being punished for actions that they as individuals didn’t commit.
Absolutely! Imagine if you’re playing Halo online and there’s a tiny friendly fire incident that ends with your teammate accidentally killing another teammate, and not just the guy who threw the grenade gets kicked, but you and the guy that got ‘sploded
indeed, and that is when "push comes to shove", not just causing more resentment but also enraging the other groups just as much as your group, what ever happened back then was over a century ago and these people who are "pushing the message" that end up being unironically racist are fanning the embers that have been left a long time ago
@@wieldylattice3015 which would certainly be confusing since you didn't do anything yet it's seen as your fault
though in a video game, you'd probably go look for another server and wait until the animosity goes away
The younger generation NEEDS more shows like static shock, teen titans, batman beyond, samurai jack, xiaolin showdown, avatar, one piece, and dragon ball z.
All these shows have exceptional storytelling and meaningful, positive messaging from everything including racial issues to just genuinely being a decent person, fighting for what you believe to be right and just etc.
These newer shows, especially the reboots are so dumbed down i can actually feel my brain cells dying if i watch for too long.
@@Who_IsLike_God woke elements yeah, but I wouldn't say it has gone full blown woke or it would've drop massively in popularity. Plus I think Oda is lowkey based. Alot of Japan is.
@@Who_IsLike_GodThe main theme of One Piece is Liberation. It was ALWAYS “woke”, you probably just didn’t realize it until Fishman Island.
Jackie chan adventures
if ur talking about yamato shes not trans @@Who_IsLike_God
@@Who_IsLike_God bro what? Touch grass
As a white boy growing up… Static Shock was MY SHIIIIIIIIIIIT
Man I miss the times when I would come back from school as fast as possible just to watch Static Shock in time
Another good show that tackles racism is the original Teen Titans. The episode "Troq" (S4 E6) had a great representation on how some people will never change no matter how hard you try but there are still people out there that are accepting to anyone no matter your race, religion or origin. New shows really need to look back and see how racism is actually tackled.
Also shows that you can be rasist to anyone not just black people
Or they just stop talking about race because how the old shows did it the first time worked to eliminate it almost completely
There are people who will “never change” but it’s mostly small communities who are all related and don’t want ANY strangers to move in.
Well technically I wouldn't say that's what that episode was teaching. If anything the episode focused on Starfire, she experienced prejudice, yet she did not use that as an excuse to sit around and do nothing just because she was offended, she put the mission before her feelings, and despite the prejudice she was dealt with by Valmer, she still saved his life because even though he didn't value her life, she still valued his. It shows that we should still treat people like human beings even if they are prejudiced or bigoted, the lesson was that we should always take the high road and do what's right even when we're being mistreated by others. Valmer even acknowledges Starfire at the end and even avoids calling her "Troq" out of respect, but unfortunately the part where the writers screwed up in the episode was having Robin, Cyborg in the rest of the team shun Valmer at the very end, which caused Valmer to delve deeper into his prejudices and even lump humans in with Tamaranians. They should have been more respectful to him, even if Valmer's prejudice wasn't all extinguished at once, because of Starfire's actions, a door which was previously closed in his mind had been opened. Shady Doorags talks about this episode, you should watch that video: ruclips.net/video/upWYWeogcxE/видео.html&feature=share8
How is it that the creators of shows back in the early 2000s got the message so right and now it’s been so flanderized that it does more harm than good.
@@AndreNitroX I think harm is the intention, under the guise of promoting "tolerance". Their goal is literally to divide and brainwash younger people, to make black Americans believe they are always victims, and make white Americans feel guilty for what their ancestors might have done.
It's sad to see society repeating history once again. Victim mentality is proof that we're evolving backwards. By the way, you speak facts on the double standards of racism in media and that we shouldn't be guilty just because our ancestors did something bad. I'm holding on hope that one day, we'll learn from the past and move on to the future.
(You deserve subs btw.)
Yup, I feel the same.
it honestly makes me think that there are people just pushing to make racism an everlasting problem in order to profit off the buzz it drives. it gives news media and politicians so much to work off of while ignoring things like income, the working class and housing. easier for them to say racism is bad or for poc to be blamed for things than to actually solve things like poverty, crime and healthcare.
No serious person is saying white people should feel bad because their ancestors were racist. That's the conservative party strawman. Ignoring racist systems doesn't help. That's what should be discussed.
History is doomed to repeat itself no matter how hard we try to prevent it. It's inevitable
@@youtubecruiser6819 no one's ignoring anything. Maybe just treat people like people. Because what's the take away with an approach like yours? that people like us are the problem and there's no changing that? It literally solves nothing. We're both aware that it's not good to be racist so why are you lumping us up with those people consider racist. How does that solve anything?
When I was a kid, here in Colombia, I was not really into cartoon superheroes, but then Static shock came and I loved it, he was the reason I start watching other DC shows (Specifically for the episode he met batman) what a great character
Loved static shock growing up and I remember that episode now I want to watch it again
you know what's ironic for Proud Family, is that they tackled racism in a good way in the original show, where Penny dreams in going back in time where she mets the ancestors of her family and friends being portrayed by them, and they also add the topic that Zoey is being misplaced because she's white, so she helps her and her dream ends with an speech about how everyone has to be treated as equals because after all, we are humans
The Proud Family revival only good issue was Juneteenth since a lot of people don't know it exist. I felt like the orginal had a lot more magic then the revival
I remember that episode.❤❤
@@thunderboltzio6709 nobody knew about Juneteenth before and nobody cared
What about when Penny stayed with a Pakistani Muslim family?
@@paolotorres8537 I remember that episode too. 🥺 Omg.
in brazil that cartoon is called super shock, and that is praised as high as jesus here
0:16 thats some gaslighting language.
The guy didn't sound defensive at all. He sounded confused.
My greats grandpa apparently was extremely racist, and was a sheriff that wanted to shoot Martin Luther king Jr.
Yet here I am as the opposite. When I do say anything racist, it's only to a friend as a joke, and they understand that I mean it as a joke.
Good on you for calling out racist trash like Velma and The Proud Family Reboot. It's sickening that the people who made these shows can't even see how racist and ignorant their views actually are. We should be striving to end diversity, not add to it.
"b-but we're not white we can't possibly be racist!!"
The problem is that while these shows try to tackle racism, they are being racist themselves. If the scenes were reversed and instead it said "wrongly convicting a black guy" or "black fragility", everyone will be losing it. I feel like people are forgetting that racism isn't towards just one race and done by one race. And now that times have changed and we can actually talk about these issues, these new shows execute it in the *worst ways possible.*
Anyways, thank you for analyzing and comparing Static Shock to the Proud Family reboot. That's an actual show who did it right without hurting anyone in the process. You earned a new sub!
It isn't that they forgot, it's that they redefined the word and moved the goal post. It was "prejudiced against another race," and anyone sane would still use that. But now, they've changed it to "prejudiced and power," to ensure that only ONE race can be racist in their eyes.
Well no shit this has happened for years
Your example about flipping things also works as an example of when addressing a topic was done well too. If we race swap the Static Shock characters, all the lessons still work, and the message is retained. That only works when your massage is against racism rather than against a race.
but they did say black fragility. in that same lounder and prounder ep,wizard kelly (the very rich black man that basically owns their city) just outright denied any racist shit was going down so i think dijonay chimes in with "sounds like BLACK fragility". so there's that.
The episode I find to be a problem from louder and prouder is the Zoe bashing episode. If Mr. RUclipsr had posted the context to the other episode, being white gay man denied that his family were slave owners because “that can’t be,” and “they’re not like that,” it’s silly to try and misconstrue this as “we’re punishing him for what his family did.” No, they’re telling you denying a fact is shitty, and that it should be known that she indeed was a slave. No one is shaking him for what his family did, they’re shaming him for denying proof that they did. But time for me to criticize the Zoe episode.
The Zoe episode was absolutely dogshite. The girls chose to alienate/bully Zoe for something she did not know, ESPECIALLY when they said to her face she wasn’t attractive enough to catch any black guys except Myron. She literally APOLOGIZED TO THEM after they verbally abused her, and they didn’t say shit back to her. She was done so dirty by them for no reason. They chose to believe rumors at face value, and then blame Zoe for having no clue she was being fetishized, instead of talking with her, and then confronting Mr. I only date white girls. Not to even mention they made little gay boy Native just so they could dress him up as Pocahontas. Which, that movie is very racist for what they did to Matoaka’s story. They took a child who was kidnapped by an adult man, and kept away from her family the rest of her life, and made it a love story. Then they dressed some kid up as her. And shoehorned in his Native blood just to do it. They could have done something much more respectful to Matoaka, like dressing him in accurate clothing she’d have worn, and then it wouldn’t have been as insulting.
Static Shock was able to tackle issues like racism without belittling and insulting people in the process...in other words,Disney didn't produce Static Shock.
Sadly WB, who own my once-favorite franchise DC Comics, are just as bad now
This point we should plus the hashtag cancelled the proud family reboot
4:09 That’s racism! That’s literally a core concept of racism!
Gosh-darn! This has always been the biggest danger of constantly fighting something with such intensity. If not careful, it can get to a point where you become the thing you fight against and/or despise! Personally, I think more shows should teach that message nowadays because it feels like it’s everywhere.
What really helped Static Shock with racism is with pairing Sean Foley with Robert Hawkings, Back then I didn't meet any black person that were treated differently until Middle School and the dialog with Robert really hits home and changed Sean, showing that Richie's best friend and his family are colored and aren't criminals like he lables them. Nowadays its just bash bash bash, with no redeeming moments. "The white person/male gender is the bad guy, always be a bad guy and that's final."
They are teaching it in schools.
@@silverhawkscape2677 and they're trying to label any parent who stands against a domestic terrorist
@@mbii7667 It's ridiculous. Then again they don't view Parents as the Primary stakeholder of the Child even screaming Kids are not Property. Property of whom the Parents? Because they sure don't mean the state
@@silverhawkscape2677 the state would LOVE to take over parenting duties
@@silverhawkscape2677no they aren’t…
I think a big difference is Static shock showed all the characters as fallible human beings, and the dad overcomes his prejudice and accepts his son’s friend, and everyone moves forward together. Velma and Prouder try to make it out to be an “us versus them” topic and tries to guilt and force white people into “Being better” when we have more in common than we have differences. That’s the difference.
When cartoons back then were safe for young minds to learn real important things
Haha i loved the cartoons back then they were 100 times more racist loool.
@@gregmasters8558 Something you people can relate
@@taylorsanada3180 yep I don't like basketball finger licking chicken Wang people.
2023 ruined the proud family
Wishing a rich white person to be wrongly imprisoned or convicted knowing they didn't do anything to be imprisoned is messed up.
You shouldn't wish that upon anyone, regardless of their color.
@ThaROG Exactly.
If anything, if you wish ill on someone because they're simply rich or have more money then you, then chances are, you are a bad person.
@ThaROG
Maybe rich people wouldn't despised as much if they actually helped out their communities (outside of rich communities)and stop complaing about paying a higher tax even though the can afford 15 yachts. I'm not being as descriptive here but that's part of the reason why some people don't like the rich... A lot of them can be ignorant people who don't understand how hard working class and middle class people have to work just to get food on the table
@ThaROG I'm not asking for handouts...I'm asking for the bare minimum like better and more homeless shelters, support for those who are single mothers with children. Hell even better schools in poorer neighborhood and education opportunities. Better funding for these services that help people on their feet. I'm not saying give everyone all your money, but when rich people have so much money that they do not even know what to do with it when there's people who are much less fortunate than I am struggling to keep their house, it's hard not to be a little bit sour. These things can also help our economy because if more people are getting better education, better livng conditions they become more productive members of society, thus creating more money for rich people if they want.
Though I won't say that means you should take pleasure in a rich person getting murdered- that's crazy. They're people at the end of the day, but based off the clip it seemed like a lame rich white people joke
My roommate, who was a very good friend of mine, was extremely wealthy. I remember having to work 5 months to be able to finally afford contact lenses, and then after I got them, she went and got some the next day like nothing. And she would visit Disney World roughly two times a year. Now she wasn't mean, and she didn't ever rub it in my face. However, I was still mad at her because she was able to do all these things without even batting an eyelash, while I was working my butt off. In the end, I ended up lashing out at her, and she was incredibly hurt. My jealousy of her and not being able to realize it was my problem ruined one of the closest friends I ever had. It's not her fault I was born into a poor family. Hell, I had a lot more than most people, a roof over my head, and food. And it's not her fault that she was able to do all of these amazing things and go through higher education like it was nothing. I'm extremely upset at myself looking back. And it took me years to realize that it was a ME problem. I'm sure it's too late now to fix it....but I want to tell her it was my fault, and that I'm sorry. 😔
@@kimberlygriffin6285 If you ever reconnect with her let her know you're sorry, even if nothing else comes of it at least you said what needed to be said to her.
Back in the early 2000s, When streaming services haven't been made, I was in elementary school watching Saturday Morning cartoons:
Static Shock, Mucha Lucha, Yu-Gi-Oh, Batman Beyond, X-Men Evolution, Jackie Chan Adventures, Pokémon, and Xiaolin Showdown, were the most prominent shows ever hit to Kids WB, solely due to the fact they balance Child Friendly Aesthetic with mature themed content that a lot of audiences can relate to with creative writing.
Same can also be said about other television programs outside the network such as The Proud Family (2001) where they tackled heavy topics as well.
The biggest issue we are seeing is how newer shows, reboots, and continuations are more focused on pushing the message rather than explore context with their storylines.
Exactly. Makes me miss the good old days and appreciate the past even more.
In my early years, I thrived off of DVD copies of SpongeBob, Batman TAS, Word World, The Three Stooges, Tom and Jerry and the holy grail.....✨️Veggietales ✨️
What's worst about Proud Family is that the same director of the Original wanted the show to go further even back then.
Yes. Sadly. Louder and Prouder is closer to what they really wanted.
@Scandalous_Scallywag 😢 You guys have all just described my childhood all the cartoons I'd watch every other morning, especially the weekends at my grandmother's house.
Such simpler times.
yugioh and pokemon wer anime that were gimped by 4kids.
Static Shock has intelligence, tact, and treats the audience like thinking human beings. Louder and Prouder and Velma only THINK they were made by thinking human beings.
Do you remember that creepy scene from 10 years ago from the adventures of Mark Twain? The mysterious stranger? It featured an angel calling himself Satan creating a kingdom of tiny clay people and then getting annoyed with them and killing all of them. When the other characters they are object to what he did, he responds by saying "I can do no wrong for I know not what it is."
We have the same thing here.
The idea that people of color cannot be racist for whatever reason is harmful because absolving anyone of the responsibility for inflicting harm does not mean that the harm is not inflicted.
I'M SO HAPPY STATIC SHOCK IS GETTING A LOT OF RECOGNITION AGAIN
*A show perfect for its Time that has aged Perfectly*
Agreed. Now.... WB... PLEEEEEASE DON'T REBOOT IT! LEAVE THIS ONE ALONE!!!
to bad the comics now got rebooted and he got his powers from a BLM riot. Tear gas from the police caused the big bang.....
@@gnarleytarley3870 pleae tell me you are joking
@@TDI_CharlieBrown Nope not at all I can even show you I have the first issue
Right, this show needs to come back!!!
You know what? The detail that really stood out to me was that instead of letting a the hero, Static, convince an adult of doing the right thing, they showed one adult man talking sense into another adult man, and the final push was Static proving his loyalty to his friend--the man's son--by saving him. That's awesome. Sure, having Static saying the right thing would've been the traditional formula, but a stubborn adult would be hard to convince. Moreso if the convincing side is just a kid.
Yeah, having Richie's and Virgil's dads playing off of each other was great
They don't write adult men like they used to.
@@makeda6530yeah, they write them horribly because they're men. Either that or fans bash them for writing good man characters, and they're forced into it
Static Shock was such an amazing show. I hate how they cancelled it because of low merch sales.
I miss the good old days when shows understood what racism is, and how we solve it.
Well also, louder and prouders attempt at portraying racism, wasn’t really even that as the guy who liked Zoey was black, which kinda tears apart the argument, because it really came off more as dating preference, then him not wanting to date anyone because he was racist, plus there wasn’t really any attempt until things fell apart for Zoey for any of her friends to even stick by her, if it was racism she was not the problem he was, they almost destroyed the friendship in the show over this skipping over any valuable lessons that could have been taught from it, and instead made it a you’re racist if there’s any person you wouldn’t date, static not only handled the issue in the right way, but also taught the lesson properly, and showed that a person’s character is what truly matters , not their skin tone, Velma is just Mindy kalings hate baby racism series where every race is basically targeted, and clearly that show has no basis of trying to teach anyone good lessons, unfortunately a lot of cartoons these days are either dumbing themselves down so it’s nothing more then feeding kids tv junk food, or trying so hard to push a woke agenda and narrative without thinking about how anyone can learn and resonate and connect to the content they are putting out
Yeah, I couldn’t have said it better myself. I didn’t want to go too much into the actual episodes the clips I used came from because I wanted to keep this video short, sweet, and to the point, but you nailed it.
Not to mention, the whole thing with Noah only dating Zoey for being white falls apart when you see there were plenty of far prettier white girls he could've dated in that school.
That episode could've been fantastic if it turned out Noah really WAS attracted to Zoey and continued dating her going forward, but that would require the show to acknowledge that the POC characters were the ones being racist this time around. That wouldn't be very woke yk
Actually the black community really hates when black guys go with white women and not with their black sisters, something mocked since ever that you can also see in boondocks. The hate towards the whites who wronged them extends to the point of wanting to disassociate with them the same way they did, what hypocrisy