How Static Shock Tackles Racism Better Than The Proud Family Reboot

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  • Опубликовано: 30 янв 2025

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  • @CoyoteCode
    @CoyoteCode Год назад +29044

    Thank you for saying something. Racism isn't an exclusive thing done by "white" people. These shows really do fail at encouraging people to improve themselves instead of falling into the racial attitudes & excuses of the past generations.

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +868

      You're welcome, and thank you for watching my video and commenting. I really do appreciate any and all support I get.

    • @nevermorebouquet3681
      @nevermorebouquet3681 Год назад +1

      Racism is literally only done by white people, because the state acts on behalf (ostensibly) of white people.
      No US financial or government institutions acts on behalf of minority populations to the exclusion or detriment of whites.

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +354

      Alright, watch this video, and if you still feel that way afterwards, then you're being purposely ignorant. ruclips.net/video/BFpUjyM0orQ/видео.html

    • @Dedego768
      @Dedego768 Год назад

      Racism technically is something only white people can do if we go off the definition of racism

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +915

      Racism is being prejudice towards someone because of their race. Anyone is capable of racism, we're all humans at the end of the day.

  • @stuartward1755
    @stuartward1755 Год назад +20723

    The irony of Velma is Mindy Kaling comes from a rich family, went to private school, never worked a job in her life prior to Hollywood and only got into Hollywood because of her parents money and influence. She has far more in common with Fred than she does with Velma

    • @Rubyoreo
      @Rubyoreo Год назад

      I was going to say. it really is frustrating that all these wealthy nepo babies preach about privilege while ignoring how much they have themselves.

    • @the1magageneral323
      @the1magageneral323 Год назад

      And I would bet her just like Kamala Harris owned slaves.

    • @tolikkazan9889
      @tolikkazan9889 Год назад +2156

      Her version of Fred*

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Год назад +118

      @@chheinrich8486 now what is the problem with this episode

    • @bunsbuns9072
      @bunsbuns9072 Год назад +892

      ​@tolikkazan9889 they really did my mans Fred dirty in that dumb reboot....well they did everyone dirty, but Fred's character in particular just had my whole jaw on the floor.

  • @scribeofrebirth1431
    @scribeofrebirth1431 Год назад +11996

    I once read about a tattoo artist in Tennessee who covers up racist or hateful tattoos for free. His reasoning behind offering his service for free when covering hateful tattoos was so kindhearted: “Anyone can change. And I believe in second chances.”

    • @buffcode
      @buffcode Год назад +805

      Tennessee is one of those states that has, for about 3 decades now, been seeing a lot of people wising up to how bad they really are and trying to change their ways. There are a few stubborn goats out there, but I've seen it myself, people are getting less bigoted over time for the large majority on all sides, and it's a good thing. Props to the tat man for helping a good change.

    • @theh2016
      @theh2016 Год назад +142

      ​@@buffcode that might be the case in bigger cities but coming from a relatively small town it definitely ain't better everywhere

    • @buffcode
      @buffcode Год назад +229

      @@theh2016 i came from a town of less than 1,000, and it was getting better there too. Yo town just got that racist dog in'm.

    • @JeremyBelpoisX
      @JeremyBelpoisX Год назад +51

      AS a Memphis native, this warms my heart.

    • @angelosterkel9251
      @angelosterkel9251 Год назад +28

      ​@@theh2016 I can relate
      I went to a small town for half a year, the people in that town slinged racial slurs around like it was a 1950's town. There was literally only one black person in said town.

  • @KayrangusInZaHood
    @KayrangusInZaHood Год назад +9704

    I actually can’t believe the loud family legitimately said “black people can’t be racist” a Disney show and no repurcussions in the show they just straight up said it.

    • @Flaco5609
      @Flaco5609 Год назад +554

      disney just goes along with anything that will keep ratings up. Not surprising

    • @realdragon
      @realdragon Год назад +57

      Slavers would disagree

    • @Dav-zy1dw
      @Dav-zy1dw Год назад

      As a black person, I disagree strongly. I'm probably more racist than all of you.

    • @Coolkid99880
      @Coolkid99880 Год назад +1009

      @@realdragon literally every race were slavers and slaves at one point in history. No race is guiltless of the crime of slavery. It’s a human crime not a race crime.

    • @realdragon
      @realdragon Год назад

      @@Coolkid99880 It's not only human "crime", 1 species of ants do slavery all the time

  • @connorangelini
    @connorangelini 9 месяцев назад +753

    Educate, don't separate 👍🏼

    • @Scarfacewolf365
      @Scarfacewolf365 Месяц назад +11

      Respect man

    • @heypistolero
      @heypistolero Месяц назад +1

      Meh, I've been "educated" enough. If they wanna separate, i'm all for it. I got some serious fatigue.
      I can't turn on the TV without seeing the re-education

    • @BlueShellshock
      @BlueShellshock 23 дня назад

      Funny enough, in a lot of American history, racism was manufactured. If they could get Africans to believe Mexicans were going to replace them, and convince Mexicans were going to be replaced by Chinese, and convince Chinese that Africans could replace them, then the odds of united striking efforts go way, way down.
      Countless Irish+Chinese and Mexican+African protests were shot down because all they had to do was give concessions to part of the group, and as long as they could convince one group that they'd be replaced by another, they'd never unite perfectly. If those in power could stop people from seeing each other as "railway workers" and make distinctions between "black railway worker" and "Asian railway worker", mutual trust goes down.

    • @ReoN.0
      @ReoN.0 19 дней назад +4

      @@heypistoleroyour not the only one who needs to be educated. Kids too. Theres a bunch of kids who can watch a show

    • @infinitig37aj
      @infinitig37aj 18 часов назад

      @@heypistoleroJust because you're tired, doesn't mean that the people don't need to hear the truth, you can't end racism with racism, you can only do so by empathy and understanding, at the end of the day we're all 1 race, the HUMAN race.

  • @robinmartin2818
    @robinmartin2818 Год назад +6889

    I think the biggest reason that it doesn't come off as disingenuous or racist is because static does what all shows should do, show don't tell. The actions of the characters proved or disproved the ideologies while the words help cement what side of the argument they are on. That's how you do visual storytelling.

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +403

      Yeah, couldn't have said it better myself.

    • @themaker2149
      @themaker2149 Год назад +158

      This point is one Hollywood doesn't seem to get not just in this case but alot projects. Captain marvel is a great example of this in it they tell me who carol is but they never show me.

    • @misterOrca4
      @misterOrca4 Год назад +161

      Exactly, that's the problem with shows nowadays. They want to Tell instead of show.
      Static shock represented Racism through how Vergil was being treated in the first episode. Without ever mentioning anthinf about his race of the color of his skin. And then they had an episode solely focused on how he's being treated. And the best part they never mentioned anything about race. The used You People and Them, which applies to anyone. But the writers knew that their audience was smart enough to know exactly what they were emplying.

    • @lashaunaanderson9412
      @lashaunaanderson9412 Год назад +49

      @@misterOrca4 yeah the proud family colorist episode was wasted potential instead of having the boy be openly racist/colorist they just tell us

    • @dangerousshoes
      @dangerousshoes Год назад +55

      Not to mention, it doesn't make much sense in the context of kids. Something about the image of a 6 year old watching a show about "white fragility and privilege" doesn't sit right with me. You'd think the writers would be clever enough to be able to entertain children, but also write it in a way that the message isn't lost on you and could even be revisited when older, like with Static Shock.

  • @Hunter_RQ
    @Hunter_RQ Год назад +20951

    Static shock has great episodes about racism, bullying, gun, dyslexia, loosing a family member, etc

    • @Wingedspace22
      @Wingedspace22 Год назад +317

      But it was also the sign of the times and talks about basic racism

    • @saulchapa5522
      @saulchapa5522 Год назад +297

      Static shock was the shizzle

    • @chrislawlor6264
      @chrislawlor6264 Год назад +238

      Homelessness

    • @DemonicRemption
      @DemonicRemption Год назад +156

      @Hunter_RQ
      Yeah my mom passed away in December, and I tell ya seeing both episode dealing with Static's mom hit like a truck as a result.

    • @arcticwolflover263
      @arcticwolflover263 Год назад +76

      not to mention mental dissorders as well

  • @digimonalvatrax2738
    @digimonalvatrax2738 Год назад +4502

    It was horrible how Zoey's friends treated her at that colorist episode. And most of her friends even had Boyfriends, like....maybe the characters are low key sociopathic

    • @BlackfangDragon
      @BlackfangDragon Год назад +671

      They’ve always, canonically, been terrible friends yep. That was even in the original show.

    • @tierefuerimmer9635
      @tierefuerimmer9635 Год назад +481

      And I actually always liked Zoey bc she seemed the least selfish, toxic friend that Penny had unlike Lacienega and Dijonay who were narcisstic and self centered AF

    • @simsgirlgem
      @simsgirlgem Год назад +446

      I was pissed because now zoey is gonna wonder if a boy with skin only likes her because she’s white because the brat pack was jealous she attracted the celebrity and not them

    • @digimonalvatrax2738
      @digimonalvatrax2738 Год назад +318

      @@simsgirlgem Exactly and the fact that the show only made it seem that because she was nerdy she only deserves a nerd and her friends were NOW fine with it. Wow.

    • @simsgirlgem
      @simsgirlgem Год назад

      @@digimonalvatrax2738 and then didn’t even have him be a jerk to prove the point had he said nah you’re friends are ugly because they’re dark I would definitely agree yeah dump he’s a jerk but nothing besides he likes white skin

  • @nationalinstituteofcheese3012
    @nationalinstituteofcheese3012 11 месяцев назад +573

    The best part of static shock is that they didn’t treat the father as bad because he was white. He was bad for being racist but his race had nothing to do with it. He even grew and became a better person. They showed his racism came from a place of anger towards other situations and he projected his issues onto young people and the black community. They also showed how people of all races have something in common, the love they have for their children

    • @Salamander_Sauce
      @Salamander_Sauce 3 месяца назад +23

      Loved this comment, man. Sat here tryna think about how to reply. And they're right. It's not being white, because anyone can be racist. It's just the concept of being racist. We should also try to figure out if racism was a generational thing in their families as well, because people seem to forget that racism is taught as well.

    • @nationalinstituteofcheese3012
      @nationalinstituteofcheese3012 2 месяца назад +12

      @@Salamander_Sauce exactly man. As a young girl of color, I used to sit and listen to my family explain that you can’t be racist towards white people, even to the point of separating racism and discrimination and making it sound like discrimination wasn’t as bad. I used to lap that up like a dog. Recently, I had a teacher and two student aids try to explain the same thing to me and constantly cut me off, when I tried to use logic. It felt like I was in the twilight zone

  • @1OMM.
    @1OMM. Год назад +7457

    To be fair, Velma does almost everything wrong

    • @anderto4
      @anderto4 Год назад +416

      everything.
      just everything.

    • @makeda6530
      @makeda6530 Год назад +71

      @@anderto4 Hey, they got the original designs vaguely correct on a few characters.

    • @anderto4
      @anderto4 Год назад

      @@makeda6530 e v e r y t h i n g , n o e x c e p t i o n s .

    • @damotoneko1500
      @damotoneko1500 Год назад +37

      Almost??

    • @ThaGhostGhod
      @ThaGhostGhod Год назад +51

      @@damotoneko1500it does it’s job of being fraggin’ terrible.

  • @Samwichyummers
    @Samwichyummers Год назад +10098

    “Anyone is capable of racism and anyone that is racist is capable of changing”
    *FINALLY*

    • @chubbyninja89
      @chubbyninja89 Год назад +230

      I know right?
      But many of the hypocrites of today try to ignore that fact.

    • @araja90
      @araja90 Год назад +139

      that quote should be tattooed on the head of everyone of those self righteous SJW's

    • @Leo-mj1mt
      @Leo-mj1mt Год назад +31

      @@araja90 Ew SJW's

    • @chubbyninja89
      @chubbyninja89 Год назад +15

      @@araja90
      Well said!

    • @andreabanuelosavila2317
      @andreabanuelosavila2317 Год назад +38

      If SJWs ignore it it’s because they’ll be left without straw villains.

  • @jhetttiernan2623
    @jhetttiernan2623 Год назад +8271

    There’s no such thing as reverse racism, there’s just racism. Doesn’t matter what color you are

    • @Raooka
      @Raooka Год назад

      for real.. if someone believes reverse racism is real ask them if there's reverse burglaries too

    • @MorganAFunches
      @MorganAFunches Год назад +2

      I agree! I'm a black autistic 22-year-old woman and this anti white crap is retarded to me.

    • @ohiyoresident
      @ohiyoresident Год назад +250

      I can only wonder what the two deleted replies said

    • @bigpvzfan42069
      @bigpvzfan42069 Год назад +57

      @@ohiyoresident same

    • @yurimessiah
      @yurimessiah Год назад

      In America though, white people literally can't experience racism because it's also systematic. Prejudice yes, but that's about it.

  • @lunch_trey
    @lunch_trey 9 месяцев назад +190

    "Sons of the Fathers" and the Teen Titans episode "Troq" are two prime examples of how racism should be handled in a cartoon.

  • @wotruannwah5678
    @wotruannwah5678 Год назад +3671

    What I love the most about that episode is that the father redeems himself. He's allowed to redeem himself, instead of just being portraited as irredeemable

    • @mosshivenetwork117
      @mosshivenetwork117 Год назад +167

      Yea it depends on the view on the person who wants to tackle racism. Some people want to see racist characters or people just be irredeemable jerks that get brutally killed. I can understand that sometimes but realistically, you can't just kill every racist.

    • @spehhhsssmarineer8961
      @spehhhsssmarineer8961 Год назад +87

      @@mosshivenetwork117 Nobody should be killed because of what they believe.

    • @mosshivenetwork117
      @mosshivenetwork117 Год назад +10

      @@spehhhsssmarineer8961 I guess

    • @spehhhsssmarineer8961
      @spehhhsssmarineer8961 Год назад +8

      @thomasthecommentrater3703 Ditto

    • @c00mgoblin
      @c00mgoblin 11 месяцев назад +13

      @@spehhhsssmarineer8961Okay what about MAPs and child predators? Idk man some things don’t need to be “believed” in.

  • @tomioluwa1284
    @tomioluwa1284 Год назад +1560

    Another show that also tackles racism pretty well was the original teen titans episode "Troq" it explains how despite how horribly starfire was treated and how rude the so called hero of that episode was she still acts responsibly knowing if she engages in whatever taunts and insults he will be getting the satisfaction the ending quote of the episode is ine that sticks with me forever
    "Their will always be people who say mean words because you are different, and sometimes their minds cannot be changed. But their are many more people who do not judge others based on how they look or where they are from. Those are the people whose words truly matter"

    • @panfanwithaplan
      @panfanwithaplan Год назад +198

      I also appreciated that the "hero" guy in Troq didn't magically change his racist opinions at the end of the episode just because Starfire saved his life. He just considers Starfire to be "one of the good ones". And there was never a moment where any of the other Titans questioned Starfire's feelings. Cyborg and Robin both loved that guy, but the moment they found out what "troq" meant they were both ready to tear him to shreds on behalf of their friend.
      Basically, some people don't want to change their views and the best thing you can do is distance yourself from toxic people and surround yourself with people who have your back.

    • @Arthus850
      @Arthus850 Год назад +111

      @@panfanwithaplan Add that to the fact that he declared humans as no better than troq, almost to the point of being Troq themselves, simply because they stuck up for Starfire. It gave us a very real take on how racists act

    • @marcusmorrow3900
      @marcusmorrow3900 Год назад +45

      I was hoping someone brought this up. cartoon shows nowadays are all about comedy and goofyness. static shock, teen titans, batman etc... will forever be valued for just being great shows that were more than just comedy.

    • @kevinmoore2474
      @kevinmoore2474 Год назад

      That's what sucks, now racism is handled as "whites are always wrong because of slavery in the 1800s, so even white people now are still wrong"
      Even sadder, MLK Jr would utterly despise the modern movements for creating more division. He himself, said that we should not be judged by the color of our skin, but the color of our character.
      Wanna know how the modern movements would take MLK's view if he was still alive today? He'd be marked a fake black, a coon, a racist.
      Everything he worked for is effectively being washed down th drain, and he's rolling in his grave, watching as his dream has become a nightmare.

    • @asalways1504
      @asalways1504 Год назад +41

      I was just about to mention that episode. One of the lines that stood out to me from that
      episode, was when Starfire told antagonist: “You may not value my life, but I still value yours.” the message was that, although there will be hateful, bigoted people in the world, that shouldn’t stop you from doing the right thing.

  • @VelhaHH
    @VelhaHH 11 месяцев назад +169

    in brazil that cartoon is called super shock, and that is praised as high as jesus here

    • @Jinxx9081
      @Jinxx9081 Месяц назад +13

      A lot of American kids including me grew up on static shock, I really would love to see more static shock like a live action series, but I’m worried the modern day media would ruin it and make it like the proud family.

    • @thejxdge_BR
      @thejxdge_BR 10 дней назад +2

      Jimmy de a lebre e o coelho?!

  • @bubisepulturegd4638
    @bubisepulturegd4638 Год назад +7151

    Lets end racism by being racist. Great job guys

  • @sev1120
    @sev1120 Год назад +5674

    The fact that louder and prouder teaches this message to CHILDREN is another point.
    Telling a child "you're responsible for all of the horrible things anyone who vaguely looks like you has ever done" is such a horrible thing.

    • @assiaelmabrouki5552
      @assiaelmabrouki5552 Год назад

      Oh my god I remember that song in one of the reboot episodes... It was atrocious. Everything they said, how ALL white people should feel guilty about black people's condition. How they should "pay for all their mistakes". Absolutely ignorant and harmful message!! Especially to children. I feared that the reboot would end up like this anyway... Every show was getting contaminated by that vague of racial hate and entitlement...

    • @kylepayton4720
      @kylepayton4720 Год назад

      You've missed the point of what the proud family was addressing, They're speaking of "Collective Responsibility" and Systematic Rasicm" that still disenfranchised people of color while benefiting Caucasian, To make Rasicm an individualistic problem is the cynical white washing of history and socioeconomics.

    • @MDLuffy1234YT
      @MDLuffy1234YT Год назад +574

      Remember, this is the same company who still hasn't tried to apologize or backpedal in any way for all of the many controversies with Mulan 2020 (filming near a Uyghur concentration camp, actively working with the Chinese propaganda arm that's involved in running said camp and thanking them in the credits, allowing their main actress to support police brutality in Hong Kong, and trying way too hard to be culturally sensitive without having a single chinese person, or even just a guy that's actually familiar with Chinese history and culture outside of Panda Express for that matter, on the writing/producing/directing team).
      They don't care about the mental well being of children, they don't care about social equality, they only care about the green.

    • @ZackAleksandrowicz
      @ZackAleksandrowicz Год назад +61

      @@MDLuffy1234YT So that's why Mushu wasn't in it?

    • @Salem-1610
      @Salem-1610 Год назад +145

      Basically the Sins of the Father mentality

  • @Studmuf-Rockin
    @Studmuf-Rockin Год назад +2162

    No modern cartoon can ever hold a candle to Static Shock tackling issues, the way they handled the school shooting episode was pretty serious and heartfelt.

    • @mrowley7300
      @mrowley7300 Год назад +155

      Cause back then kids were mature enough to learn these kind of issues, now days they need to wrapped in cotton wool

    • @assiaelmabrouki5552
      @assiaelmabrouki5552 Год назад +125

      Ngl they seriously had balls to tackle such a heavy topic as school shooting. And I love it. They nailed the execution and it had to be discussed to understand why it happens and how we could prevent it. I really respect that show.

    • @mbii7667
      @mbii7667 Год назад +21

      I truly miss the heyday of American comic book animation

    • @gregorykelly2871
      @gregorykelly2871 Год назад +1

      I did like the episode you mentioned, but my problem with it was the ending with Ritchie when he is shot and is acting like this is new. The guy stands with Static through way worse than a bullet but him getting shot is new?
      I think it would help if it wasn't Ritchie that was shot but a different kid.

    • @AndreNitroX
      @AndreNitroX Год назад +21

      I am always pleasantly shocked that the cartoons of the 90s and early 2000s had way better positive messages than anything that comes out today.

  • @poltatoons3626
    @poltatoons3626 6 месяцев назад +40

    The funny thing is that Velma and loud family louder and prouder are the worst rated shows on the streaming platforms that they were on

  • @jewellcleveland2226
    @jewellcleveland2226 Год назад +3456

    “Sean may have been a racist jerk, but that doesn’t mean that Richie was, and that doesn’t mean that Richie should have to feel responsible for his father’s actions or beliefs.”
    I feel like this point is often overlooked today. If one white person is racist towards another race, that doesn’t mean every single other white person in the world should feel responsible for that one white person.

    • @tiagodecastro2929
      @tiagodecastro2929 11 месяцев назад +134

      More and more people nowadays seem to be looking at things through a collectivist lens rather than an individualistic one. The West was built on individualism, and a lot of its success can be attributed to the concept of individual rights which was gradually built and expanded upon that individualism. By going back to collectivism, the west is going backwards, not forwards. Personally, I think the answer is to legally focus on individualism and individual rights while building a sense of community which encourages people to want to contribute to the community of their own free will, but it's a difficult balance to achieve. Either way, encouraging a popular belief that the sins of the father pass on to the son is not liable to end well.

    • @Zeus-715
      @Zeus-715 11 месяцев назад

      @@tiagodecastro2929 The west is now about picking sides. Red pill, blue pill. Conservative or progressive. White or black. Male or female. America especially. They are split in half and constantly discriminate each other, thinking of their side as "the right side" when both sides have obvious, horrible flaws. Even centrists are fucked up. Back in the days of 1980-2010 individualism was huge, but people lost grasp of that.

    • @htfs493
      @htfs493 8 месяцев назад +24

      @Vilgax00how tf did the capital I steal the dot from the lowercase one?

    • @user-eh2jk6mf9s
      @user-eh2jk6mf9s 8 месяцев назад

      It simply is illogical to be racist

    • @tarheelpro87
      @tarheelpro87 7 месяцев назад

      Yeah, ppl act like there weren’t white people who were supportive of MLK. It was pretty uncommon, but they were out there. Saying this as a black man btw.

  • @Eleven217
    @Eleven217 Год назад +9008

    You don't beat racism with payback, you beat it by reconciliation.

    • @artsmart_5805
      @artsmart_5805 Год назад +575

      fr, violence just breeds violence

    • @horaciosi
      @horaciosi Год назад +307

      Especially with shit that didn't happen to you.

    • @hollowgab6531
      @hollowgab6531 Год назад +159

      ​@@artsmart_5805 but in the end...

    • @misterboxhead3045
      @misterboxhead3045 Год назад +174

      ​@@hollowgab6531 it has to be this way

    • @hollowgab6531
      @hollowgab6531 Год назад +99

      @@misterboxhead3045 * epic music *

  • @sagewilson5359
    @sagewilson5359 Год назад +1514

    I really like what you said here. I'm Black myself and it's hard to make a point like this without being called a "sellout" . If people are shooting for equality and not control, static shock makes excellent examples of that. Equality. Not some "you guys did it first so its our turn" energy. Well done brother

    • @GhostLink92
      @GhostLink92 Год назад +98

      I've been saying that for some time now. It's never been about social justice, it's about social revenge. It's going to end up perpetuating an endless cycle of hate (genuine hate, not the shit they claim is hate).

    • @sharktenko267
      @sharktenko267 Год назад +3

      except that what static showed was very toned down.
      and if you are being called a backstabber or sellout maybe look into why.

    • @Damned-Soul-Sundea
      @Damned-Soul-Sundea Год назад +111

      ​@@sharktenko267Of course it's toned down, at the end of the day it's still a kids TV show. So the fact that it tackled racism better than most adult TV shows is just sad.

    • @FlashX212
      @FlashX212 Год назад +58

      Getting called anti-black for bringing this up to other black people feels like a slap in the face.

    • @AkasagiPhan
      @AkasagiPhan Год назад +49

      @@GhostLink92for me what the newer shows are doing is more like virtual signaling, that is why they just have the characters talking about racism as if they were reading it out of a textbook. The older shows tried to convey a message via good story-writing

  • @gjtrue
    @gjtrue 5 месяцев назад +35

    I'm still very legitimately *shocked and disgusted* by what the "Proud Family" has become.

  • @ax8124
    @ax8124 Год назад +3293

    I like your take on how people who are racist can still improve themselves. This is what other shows like the proud family louder and prouder fail to address, that even if a person is racist, they can still change. However, they just deem white people as the problem who are incapable of change. Those messages is what keeps racism going and humans divided. I subscribed to your channel.

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +143

      Thank you for the support. I appreciate it. I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I hope you look forward to and enjoy future videos.

    • @violacadbury8343
      @violacadbury8343 Год назад +135

      Even with racism not being the issue, concepts such as redemption and forgiveness are gradually being outmoded by selective outrage, and almost lifelong shame.

    • @silverhawkscape2677
      @silverhawkscape2677 Год назад

      And leads to Genocide. Look up Haiti Genocide of 1804. Even the French who sided with the Native Haiti people against slavery were genocided.
      As for the Poles? For there help they were called the "White negroes of Europe"

    • @fyeissupreme3798
      @fyeissupreme3798 Год назад +24

      @@violacadbury8343 You can definitely still decide to be better person regardless if redemption or forgiveness is in the cards for you.

    • @DougieYT
      @DougieYT Год назад +66

      Facts, with these new shows is basically Black = Superior and Flawless, White = Racist & Inferior.

  • @josteinhenrique2779
    @josteinhenrique2779 Год назад +4891

    In "Static Shock", being racist and bigot is portraited as an individual choice, a choice you can also rethink, in order to become a better person.
    In "Louder and Prouder", racism and bigotry are portraited as some sort of original sin, from which you should atone ALL. THE. TIME.

    • @morganicsmoothie964
      @morganicsmoothie964 Год назад +473

      The all the time thing is what really gets me, because living your whole life with that weight on your shoulder can only build frustration and resentment

    • @patrickzalatoris3206
      @patrickzalatoris3206 Год назад

      its not i think what happened over 200 years ago was a good thing, it absolutely was not, but living in the past is never a good thing, people need to move on and live a better life on what they have now and not continuing to play victim on slavery. I also dont like how all media now is bashing on abraham lincoln, one of if not our greatest president of all time as being a failure as a president, because whether black people like it or not, lincoln was the one to help abolish slavery, he helped make sure black people lived in america and have better lives, some things were true that slavery wasnt completely abolished right away and lincoln thought of deporting blacks, but in the end he thought of the best option for eveyone, and if thats not considered being a great president idk what is, and if people want to keep living in the past of how things were, and not move forward, then we as humans and americans are never going to move forward from bigotry towards both blacks and whites

    • @heehooobsessor7907
      @heehooobsessor7907 Год назад +382

      ​@@morganicsmoothie964 Which then that resentment winds up creating racist thoughts and ideals, and then nothing changes

    • @morganicsmoothie964
      @morganicsmoothie964 Год назад +256

      @@heehooobsessor7907 precisely! Spite can essentially convince people who are simply misguided to become actively racist. not that it's an excuse, but it definitely pushes them in the wrong direction

    • @josteinhenrique2779
      @josteinhenrique2779 Год назад

      @@heehooobsessor7907 sometimes I think they're actively seeking for this. Their modus operandi feels like a doctor who creates a disease, and then, sells the vaccine.

  • @rebal180
    @rebal180 Год назад +957

    I love how the token white girl of Penny's friend group is now the privileged white girl because a guy likes her more than the others. It's like what even is that reboot? The same people from the original can't be writing for that. Zoey was never treated differently for being the only white one and she never hated her friends for being black. They all used to like each other for WHO they are and never brought up WHAT they are.

    • @theresahall3912
      @theresahall3912 Год назад +112

      Yeah they did that because they were jealous the famous guy noticed her instead of them. Instead accepting that they didn't get the guy and saying maybe he will notice me someday and moving on with life in the meantime

    • @justingarrett2239
      @justingarrett2239 Год назад +10

      Y'all can't lie tho, you know most people have "preferences" for white girls and white guys and they don't even have to try😂

    • @EagleTimberWolf
      @EagleTimberWolf Год назад +131

      @@justingarrett2239 I get where you're coming from but like... Do you not realize those aren't the type of people anyone should be pining for? If I liked someone only to find out they didn't like me simply because of my skin tone, I would consider that a bullet dodged. The attraction would be gone because the person showed their true colors. Furthermore, if I found out they started dating my best friend solely because of their race, I wouldn't automatically treat my friend like it's their fault. The message on colorism that the episode was trying to send is understandable but the way it was executed ruined it - they acted like Zoey was some treacherous jezebel for something that was technically the guy's fault.

    • @soya_kitchens
      @soya_kitchens Год назад +14

      @@justingarrett2239 No, they don't

    • @justingarrett2239
      @justingarrett2239 Год назад +2

      @@soya_kitchens you ever been on the internet? Yes they do

  • @CesarGameBoy.
    @CesarGameBoy. 3 месяца назад +48

    1:45 The KKK is in a kid’s cartoon.

    • @vinceb.8363
      @vinceb.8363 2 месяца назад +5

      And even when they draw them they still do it in black n white

    • @mr.queasy2280
      @mr.queasy2280 27 дней назад +2

      Ghostbuster 🔥🔥🔥

    • @ReoN.0
      @ReoN.0 19 дней назад +3

      For real. That should be in a book not a cartoon where kids could be watching. It’s a hard subject that should be talked about at a later time

    • @keyboardsmashhere
      @keyboardsmashhere 15 дней назад

      If you don't know 31 minutos yet, "the greatest show you've never seen" by melodynosurname is a good introduction.
      In "yo opino" ("I think that-") has both kkk and Nazi imagery. Why? Because it's important to have opinions
      Chile: The best country in Chile

    • @paradoxinraindrops141
      @paradoxinraindrops141 6 дней назад +1

      @@ReoN.0 The Superman radio show from the 40’s, had an arc tackling the KKK. It was so successful it actually hurt the klan’s numbers IRL.
      Cartoons shouldn’t be withheld from depicting mature subject matter. So long as they can depict them in the story responsibly. Like how Static tackled racism, gun violence, etc. These episodes help to get the discussion started with young folk.

  • @brown7180
    @brown7180 Год назад +1254

    The issue about racism isn’t just about past racism. It’s about present racism, and how it affects living people throughout their lives. Static Shock did a fantastic job showing PRESENT racism as well as the conflict it brings through generations and shows the experiance of realizing its proximity. Learning that someone as close as your bestie’s dad is racist can be scary. Especially when that attitude is expressed via anger.
    Proud family and Velma just use racism as an excuse or cause behind colored characters being racist and never addresses the hypocrisy nor internalization of racism as its own problem.

    • @mollymcmurtrie8037
      @mollymcmurtrie8037 Год назад +13

      The Proud Family Reboot, not the orginal

    • @josephine4s
      @josephine4s Год назад +45

      Racism can come from different angles and degrees too. My white paternal grandma has said some racist shit about the latino people living across the street from her, and my mixed dad was shocked. He was talking about it to me later, and I said something like “Did you think she just wouldn’t be racist at all because she married a black man?” to which he said that he had.
      The shit my grandma says upsets me, but I have racism in my brain too, and I’ve done my share of microagression bullshit. I just have to work on that and treat people better.

    • @holyfool5605
      @holyfool5605 Год назад +10

      Very true. And at least in Velma's case it's from writers with economic privilege, further pushing them away from the experiences their characters are victimized for.

    • @jopun3691
      @jopun3691 11 месяцев назад +1

      I remember that black girl who comented on slave build this country, saying facts that this is bs and fscts about history of slavery (news flash: not all slaves were black, first slaves in usa were withe, there were black slave owners, black slaves were sold by other black people on coastes of africa, when white man colonized africa slavery was alredy abolished so there were no white people taking black people from there, salvery happend in whole world and all races were enslaved and were slave owners), but in usa you dont learn facts about it, you dont learn about rest of the world history, so you are brought up in belive that slaves were slaves bcs of race witch is bs.

    • @GreyM900
      @GreyM900 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@jopun3691Yes but the problem is when you say “We’ll whites were slaves too” “Africans enslaved each other.” In response only when black people bring up slavery or anything. It’s always brought up in a way that’s like “Oh well it happened to use to🙄.”
      Okay many things happen to people but one only brings it up when we bring it up.

  • @morrisonscott1139
    @morrisonscott1139 Год назад +2664

    My mom told me about how my dad had to deal with a dude who was racist toward him. As they spent time together, he expressed massive regret for ever being racist and made things right with my dad. She concluded the story by saying that hatred is not something your born with, it's taught to you.
    Velma and the Proud reboot are trying to teach and encourage hatred. But what good would that do for anyone? Did Martin Luthor King Jr ever try and combat hatred with more hatred?

    • @roneherushin4638
      @roneherushin4638 Год назад

      I believe I've heard it called race baiting or even race grifting as they profit off the racial antagonism they stoke as the only talent they have is in causing division.

    • @ashthepotato3172
      @ashthepotato3172 Год назад +146

      Completely. Unfortunately it seems to be an epidemic with these new outlandish Disney live action remakes, Cleopatra, Bridgerton Queen Charlotte as well causing so much discourse and polarity which (if you're on the "offending" side you're hateful and bigoted and narrow sighted.). Perpetuating this ridiculous melarky.

    • @edoardoturco8780
      @edoardoturco8780 Год назад +114

      @@ulisesojeda6096 Malcolm X changed his mind and became a devout follower of the "Real" Islam, so he was killed by the Nation of Islam.

    • @Salem-1610
      @Salem-1610 Год назад +10

      ​@@edoardoturco8780 I didn't know that. Huh.

    • @chrisd2051
      @chrisd2051 Год назад +7

      No MLK never did but Malcom X did

  • @Alex8609BrindyJames
    @Alex8609BrindyJames Год назад +1806

    "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin, or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite."
    -Nelson Mandela

    • @alonzomonroy8149
      @alonzomonroy8149 11 месяцев назад +6

      How original.

    • @Alex8609BrindyJames
      @Alex8609BrindyJames 11 месяцев назад +33

      That quote seems much more for that Static Shock episode than Velma and The Proud Family reboot.

    • @NaimChowdhury-cj4kk
      @NaimChowdhury-cj4kk 11 месяцев назад +67

      @@alonzomonroy8149It’s unoriginal but it’s very much a good and true message

    • @alonzomonroy8149
      @alonzomonroy8149 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@NaimChowdhury-cj4kk more like cheesy

    • @NaimChowdhury-cj4kk
      @NaimChowdhury-cj4kk 11 месяцев назад +50

      @@alonzomonroy8149 but it’s still true

  • @toaster-rp4ft
    @toaster-rp4ft 11 месяцев назад +32

    My greats grandpa apparently was extremely racist, and was a sheriff that wanted to shoot Martin Luther king Jr.
    Yet here I am as the opposite. When I do say anything racist, it's only to a friend as a joke, and they understand that I mean it as a joke.

  • @UnderTheSameSun693
    @UnderTheSameSun693 Год назад +6886

    That line "Use your white privilege" in Proud Family, was so cringe lol. On behalf of black people everywhere, I can assure you that we don't think it works that way 😂
    Update:
    This thread descended into chaos so quickly, and I am not sorry. Not sure how we got on the topic of Kinks and furries... Yeah...

    • @MsBrendalina
      @MsBrendalina Год назад +461

      "Pull your White Privilege out of your pocket and help me!" 😂

    • @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441
      @ladyriethegoldendelmo5441 Год назад +79

      This makes me giggle 🤣

    • @Lab-Gr0wn-Lambs
      @Lab-Gr0wn-Lambs Год назад

      The white guy in question was also a cop? Like *that* woulda been the thing to bring up first, they were all getting arrested. Like "Use the fact that you're a cop to stop the other cops" not "Quick, use your white". I like how they showed it didn't even work though, white dude got arrested too (though that makes me wonder what the point of that line was).

    • @themagician8801
      @themagician8801 Год назад +41

      If only

    • @lunosol8914
      @lunosol8914 Год назад +272

      I can assure you theirs many black people out their that do
      But it's not your fault neither is the ones who don't think this way
      Theirs just racist people out their and we can't do anything about it

  • @probablysomeone
    @probablysomeone Год назад +889

    One of them is racist, has serious victim complex & wants to divide communities by depicting others as villainous people. The other is static shock.

    • @artsmart_5805
      @artsmart_5805 Год назад +140

      one of them tries to play the victim card, blame a whole race of people, and don't believe people can change. The other one is an amazing DC superhero show that is just better in general. Static shock for the win baby

    • @ShadeSlayer1911
      @ShadeSlayer1911 Год назад +18

      @@artsmart_5805 Static was one of my favorite superheroes as a kid. I watched the show semi-religiously. I just found Virgil Hawkins to be supremely relatable.

  • @meracodalis4173
    @meracodalis4173 Год назад +2529

    I once got kicked out of a group chat because the host of it found out I was white. When I confronted him about it, he was like "I don't want your people in my chat." I was like bruh what, and he goes "ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE RASCIST!!" and I was like "First up, you're wrong. Secondly, i have friends and family from multiple different cultures, I mean my great grandmother is Navajo Indian and I got cousins who are half black." he was like "Yeah that's what all you white people say."
    Like I joined the chat to meet people and just chill and talk, that was the first thing I got hit with "YOU'RE WHITE, SO YOU'RE RACIST!" You can be racist while being any color, and I won't lie I do sometimes say things that come off that way, but I catch myself and I apologize.
    Racism is not ok, nor is discrimination of any kind. No matter your skin color, age, culture, gender, or sexual identity, WE ARE ALL HUMAN!

    • @nevaehhamilton3493
      @nevaehhamilton3493 Год назад +183

      Yikes. Sorry to hear that.

    • @ci7210
      @ci7210 Год назад +324

      That's the problem with modern ideology. It's not removing racism It's making racism worse but justifying it.

    • @garlicbutter8733
      @garlicbutter8733 Год назад

      look, as a person of color being white doesn't make you a bad person!
      the beliefs these shows push are the same racist beliefs we've been told for years; "white people and people of color can't be in the same spaces together!" it's the very thing we've BEEN fighting against!

    • @audreyholmes9751
      @audreyholmes9751 Год назад +165

      I've heard people say that
      "people who are the minority or are oppressed can't be racist!"
      Which isn't true in the least, racism is a messy two way street with people driving on the wrong side of the road whenever it tickles their fancy.
      I've had someone who got in a relationship with another person and this person wasn't taking it slow even remotely...three days in and they were making creepy couple videos and posting them on youtube...three. days. in...and they had someone (who we think might have been a fake double account) watching and gushing over their every interaction (practically hardcore shipping two irl people)
      And we went to confront them about how she was freaking this guy out and she pulls the "yOu'Re AtTacKInG Me CaUSe i'M bLaCK!11!"
      We didn't even care to look at her pfp...we said we didn't know, nor that we cared...
      Apparently they are a victim and empowered... like they think they're the Schrodinger's cat of social justice warriors!
      There will always be someone, somewhere trying to bank off of someone else, or try to use an aspect of themselves that's the new minority to play the victim for the crowd that they can gather and control, to push an agenda that benefits themselves.

    • @NicholasJScott
      @NicholasJScott Год назад

      Was actually apart of a Discord group which was similar, they treated white people like absolute fucking scum. Would take artwork of characters alter their skin tone from white to another and "perfected" them. Honestly, I find it kind of shameful that "we a minority so we can't be racist!" Excuse cause that's what it is. A FUCKING EXCUSE! They preach for equality from white people then as soon as they get it. They treat white people like shit.

  • @Adelicousbottleosyrup
    @Adelicousbottleosyrup 11 месяцев назад +17

    Something that probably doesn’t add on but ima say it anyway: in The Proud family: Louder and Prouder, the main character specifically says: “black people cant be racist!” I’m sorry what of course they can 💀

    • @sqweeps.03
      @sqweeps.03 11 месяцев назад +4

      I’m a black dude but the way I cringe at folks when they say black ppl can’t be racist and in my mind I’m like, “but… we can, it’s just not right to do so I don’t”. It baffles me

  • @draphking
    @draphking Год назад +739

    "You're still a slave, Angron. Enslaved by your past, blind to the future. Too hateful to learn. Too spiteful to prosper."

    • @patrik9328
      @patrik9328 7 месяцев назад +21

      Ah, Warhammer quote

    • @collecter343
      @collecter343 7 месяцев назад +8

      @@patrik9328Past all the gratuitous violence, a lot of violence admittedly, there’s great quotes to reflect on.

    • @rythofthefourthhouse7104
      @rythofthefourthhouse7104 7 месяцев назад +21

      @@collecter343Father, how could you not see this coming? My last name is literally Heresy!!!
      -John Horus Heresy

    • @collecter343
      @collecter343 7 месяцев назад +13

      @@rythofthefourthhouse7104 Congratulations Horus, you are now the Warhammer 40,000.
      ~Jimmy Space

    • @Nopal11-v5m
      @Nopal11-v5m 7 месяцев назад

      This is! This Wh30k Quotes (because i remember it comes from Horus heresy series) this quote is somehow match perfectly with these types of People! Slave to the Past! Too hateful to learn and too spiteful to prosper

  • @LittleHobbit13
    @LittleHobbit13 Год назад +2161

    Static Shock does a better job because they just asked the audience to reflect on their own behavior instead of their message assigning blame and fault.
    And ironically, the conversation between Mr. Hawkins and Mr. Foley is exactly why the other shows usually fail at the conversations.
    _"What your son heard...I wasn't talking about him."_
    _"No, you were just talking about his 'kind'."_
    Flip flop the colors in that conversation and what Mr. Hawkins is calling him out on is the exact argument those other shows try to use: no, you're not talking about your white friend, _just their kind._ It's a very hypocritical argument, and it's very hurtful to people who _are_ working hard to help dismantle racist social structures. "Sins of the father" is a disgusting belief no matter who applies it.
    By all means, be angry about institutional racism that makes it possible for white people to escape consequences or whatever, but be sure in venting those frustrations that you don't wind up being generally racist yourself.

    • @silverhawkscape2677
      @silverhawkscape2677 Год назад

      You should help Dismantle Critical race theory because part of its postulates is that White people helping blacks are doing it out of self interest or image and not because they genuinely believe in the cause nor they don't hold those racist beliefs.
      In other words, even the white people helping you are secretly racist and looking after themselves.

    • @xFlareLeon
      @xFlareLeon Год назад

      Black criminals are almost never reported kn and it's always a massive tragedy when one of them gets killed, even if it's in the middle of commiting a violent crime.
      But sure, it's the white people who get off easy.

    • @lilari6146
      @lilari6146 Год назад +17

      Yesss

    • @DougieYT
      @DougieYT Год назад +17

      This right here!!!!

    • @draykohunter6805
      @draykohunter6805 Год назад +12

      Thank you

  • @nintendolife25
    @nintendolife25 Год назад +790

    It’s absolutely criminal that you don’t have more views or subscriptions. It’s pathetic that a show created 2 decades ago tackled serious topics better than two recent cartoons targeted at different demographics. As you said, all they did is paint everything, ironically, black and white. Thank you for such a great and informative video. :)

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +33

      Thank YOU for the support. I hope you stick around because on top of talking about more topics similar to this, but I also plan to review video games. If that doesn't sound like your cup of tea, then thank you for the support for this video and have a good night. ✌

  • @yoyohanaBR
    @yoyohanaBR 11 месяцев назад +6

    Static Shock is one of the most beloved morning cartoons here in Brazil. Loved by anyone from any race or skin color, It was a big part of our childhood here. I miss shows with good morals and advice like that.

  • @CreationsInChrist
    @CreationsInChrist Год назад +1242

    Also with the show “Teen Titans” from 2003 (dang that makes me feel old), when Starfire was a victim of racism for being Tamaranian, and Cyborg sympathized with her. The message it pushed was “you can’t always fix hateful people”. But shows like “Velma” and “Proud Family” try tackling racism by hating whites, which is also racist.

    • @dr.altoclef9255
      @dr.altoclef9255 Год назад +189

      It also brought up a really good point. Starfire didn’t want to rock the boat. She could’ve kicked that guy’s ass, but if she does that she’s just ‘proving’ the stereotype.
      It’s something people who are ‘othered’ tend to deal with often. You can’t complain or you’re ‘playing the race card’ or ‘shoving your sexuality down everyone’s throats’. You can’t be mad. You can’t be aggressive. Then you just ‘prove them right’.
      Cyborg even says it. “You can’t do anything or it would just prove him ‘right’.”
      So they rallied to support her. And she chose to be the bigger person. “I value your life even if you don’t value mine.”

    • @FloofPuppy
      @FloofPuppy Год назад +74

      An episode of Tangled tackled this issue very well.
      Rapunzle is friends with Everyone except the candy shop man.
      And he had his reasons. Even if Rapunzle didn't agree with him.
      The episode clearly tells kids that "Not everyone is going to be your friend, so you shouldn't kill yourself for their attention, even if they have dumb reasons."

    • @mar420.74
      @mar420.74 Год назад +21

      The way he says she's just like all the rest of them and her face afterwards always kills me, especially from personal experience, it really does truly hurt

    • @edwardcierniak7879
      @edwardcierniak7879 Год назад +8

      I was born in 2003, just to make you feel older

    • @tem2198
      @tem2198 Год назад +3

      ​@@edwardcierniak7879how does it feel to be 20?

  • @KingPoseidon02
    @KingPoseidon02 Год назад +464

    The difference between Static Shock and the "Woke" shows Proud Family and Velma did was portray an entire race as racist. Static Shock showed ignorance knew no color in multiple episodes. Static also showed that a hero rises above all hate, fear, and ignorance.

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +84

      Exactly, and that's why Static is both a superior show to Proud Family and Velma, and also a great superhero.

    • @sharktenko267
      @sharktenko267 Год назад +3

      they are entirely different shows from entirely different eras, racism is allot worse now then it was during the show run of static

    • @AnInkStick
      @AnInkStick Год назад +46

      @@sharktenko267 dude, don’t even try to pull that. Era is irrelevant. There’s a right way to do this kind of thing and a wrong Way to do this kind of thing. Static shock did it right, proud family did it absolutely horribly.

    • @christianbarrera3614
      @christianbarrera3614 Год назад +20

      @@sharktenko267 It's Definitely not worse lmao, people just get offended by every little thing now. There were actual race wars and real systemic discrimination before, there is no systemic racism now other than ironically affirmative action.

    • @sharktenko267
      @sharktenko267 Год назад

      @@christianbarrera3614 -_- you are very and extremely wrong.

  • @circuits17nightmare28
    @circuits17nightmare28 Год назад +765

    It’s just depressing when something says it’s against racism, but is extremely racist itself. The hypocrisy is disgusting.

  • @TheDXJC56
    @TheDXJC56 3 месяца назад +11

    2:18 Static Shock even does a better job of parodying Shaggy and Freddy than that shitshow Velma does 😂

  • @aaronpasache1847
    @aaronpasache1847 Год назад +413

    you know what's ironic for Proud Family, is that they tackled racism in a good way in the original show, where Penny dreams in going back in time where she mets the ancestors of her family and friends being portrayed by them, and they also add the topic that Zoey is being misplaced because she's white, so she helps her and her dream ends with an speech about how everyone has to be treated as equals because after all, we are humans

    • @thunderboltzio6709
      @thunderboltzio6709 Год назад +22

      The Proud Family revival only good issue was Juneteenth since a lot of people don't know it exist. I felt like the orginal had a lot more magic then the revival

    • @RooRoove
      @RooRoove Год назад +3

      I remember that episode.❤❤

    • @brianaguilar8283
      @brianaguilar8283 Год назад +14

      @@thunderboltzio6709 nobody knew about Juneteenth before and nobody cared

    • @paolotorres8537
      @paolotorres8537 Год назад +7

      What about when Penny stayed with a Pakistani Muslim family?

    • @RooRoove
      @RooRoove Год назад +3

      @@paolotorres8537 I remember that episode too. 🥺 Omg.

  • @aidanredding8058
    @aidanredding8058 Год назад +1835

    It's kinda sad seeing this come from Disney because they also made Zootopia, which tackled racism in a much better way because it showed prejudiced against BOTH sides, and how prejudice against one side can lead to prejudice against the other.

    • @kootunesscrewy
      @kootunesscrewy Год назад +137

      The difference between Zootopia and Proud Family: Louder and Prouder is that the former is a original idea, while the latter is a reboot.
      This is why originality is better than bringing back old properties. Bringing back old cartoons for nostalgia is a terrible idea.
      Unless that old cartoon is from the Golden Age, like Looney Tunes, Tom and Jerry or Mickey Mouse.
      If they are desperate for new ideas with older characters, they could just do more crossovers.

    • @aidanredding8058
      @aidanredding8058 Год назад +112

      @@kootunesscrewy It's not always a terrible idea, the Ducktales reboot was amazing. And that was also Disney.

    • @kootunesscrewy
      @kootunesscrewy Год назад +22

      @@aidanredding8058 That's what I said. Lol.
      DuckTales is a part of the Mickey Mouse universe.
      But yeah, I would agree that not all of the non-Golden Age reboots are bad. If anything, I enjoyed mostly all the post-WBA Scooby Doo reboots (except for Velma) and the Inspector Gadget reboot, while not better as the original, was more faithful than the boring Gadgetinis cartoon. The same can also go with Danger Mouse (2014), in which I kinda find it better than the original 1982 series, and (unpopular opinion) Teen Titans Go was pretty funny.

    • @Animestar21
      @Animestar21 Год назад +38

      @@kootunesscrewyeh I have to admit, in spite of my hatred to Teen Titans Go, I can acknowledge that it can be funny
      And it’s certainly not the worst reboot, cartoon, or superhero show in the world

    • @shyguyrocks1
      @shyguyrocks1 Год назад +11

      Yeah but Judy is a cop and so is Nick now. The sequel may try to tackle the ACAB issues now

  • @deanblanchard3816
    @deanblanchard3816 Год назад +425

    Static Shock allowed me back over a friends house growing up. We both dealt with racist parents, but their parents watching Saturday morning cartoons got them to realize there’s no point in punishing us kids over racism.
    Static Shock was an amazing show. We loved watching Static Shock, Jackie Chan Adventures, and Pokémon. Grew into Toonami together as we lost Saturday morning cartoons.

  • @FantasiaProject2491
    @FantasiaProject2491 3 месяца назад +3

    It makes me satisfied that I grew up with Static Shock on KidsWB and really taught me so much. It does have entertainment values about the action, the drama and with comedy sprinkled there. It also has the best moments when it tackles serious issues which really worked.
    You, sir, deserve a subscription from me. Thank you so much for sharing this, and proving why classic shows like Static Shock is the best!

  • @patrickjennings431
    @patrickjennings431 Год назад +1954

    At least static didn't shove it in our faces about racism like proud family did

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +134

      Exactly.

    • @pizzaroll7243
      @pizzaroll7243 Год назад +53

      Maybe because people who aren’t black ignore it?? We’ve been talking about racism for way to long. Black people are still being attacked because of their race… so maybe you do need that push because obviously a show in the 90’s wasn’t enough and MLK wasn’t enough…
      You see how horrible they’re treating the new actress of the little mermaid vs the Korean actress…

    • @patrickjennings431
      @patrickjennings431 Год назад +279

      @@pizzaroll7243 first off I'm black and I don't get obsessed over racism I choose to let it go because that's in the past plus no hate to halle bailey but disney shouldn't have blackwashed ariel they could've created a new black mermaid and have her to be ariels friend instead of doing it the lazy way by blackwashing

    • @nojusticenetwork9309
      @nojusticenetwork9309 Год назад +49

      ​@@patrickjennings431 and I'm black working in the police force and volunteers with activist and community groups. Racism very much is not in the past and there are people today still going through it. If racism was not a thing then people wouldn't talk about it, politicians wouldn't try to hide it and death tolls wouldn't be rising. Racism is but one piece in a systematic issue that effects everyone, and it's why solving each piece that holds us back from building a better society is important. If your complaint is that the topic of racism is "shoved in your face" then don't pretend that you actually care about the subject, because you're actually part of the conversation at that point.

    • @patrickjennings431
      @patrickjennings431 Год назад +133

      @@nojusticenetwork9309 because I'm here to be entertained not to be lectured to about it that's why entertainment exists is to escape from the problems we're facing. When you keep lecturing us about racism over and over again especially in entertainment and making villains like erik killmonger sympathetic that becomes a problem

  • @irregulargamer1352
    @irregulargamer1352 Год назад +367

    Static Shock shows a realistic, albeit toned down, representation of racism and how it is best responded too. you don't see them putting all the blame on the "system" or acting like Richie's dad is some sort of unredeemable nazi just because he's white. When Virgil says "how can a guy like Richie have a father like that" his dad responds "Thats a question Richie's dad can't answer. that kind of hate feeds on itself". when the two dads confront each other Virgils dad explains that he's met people like him. a man whos concentrated too much on his work and grown not only ignorant of the world around him but has grown disconnected to his son. throughout it all the show treats Richies dad like a person which is the most important difference because it really allows someone to reach the root of the problem and allows the opportunity for us as a people to cooperate in the world together. sure not everything will be agreed upon and you won't have someone change overnight or in the perfect manner but it's the best way to solve these societal problems. At some point writers started pushing for more exciting or cathartic solutions to these problems acting like white people are simply the problem based on their skin color alone. acting like racism or ignorance is the worst crime ever and the society is and will always be tilted against people of color. this does nothing but alienate people and leave a bad taste in peoples mouths. scolding people and stereo typing white people simply makes things worse and is why people will avoid the topic of race, not because it's a controversial subject but to avoid confrontations like the one you see in the beginning of this video. its just sad to see the race issue perpetuated because some people would rather lash someone than communicate with them and try to come to an understanding.

    • @piegineer9130
      @piegineer9130 Год назад +15

      This reminds me of Daryl Davis who instead attack and berate the Klan Members he tries to talk and befriending them he said that "When two enemies are talking, they're not fighting" and "when talking it doesn't have to be about race, it could be about anything you will find that you both have something in common. As you build upon those commonalities, you're forming a relationship and as you build about that relationship, you're forming a friendship. That's what would happen. I didn't convert anybody. They saw the light and converted themselves." with that he make over 200 of them give up their robes this proves that if you try to open up seek common ground and treat those with prejudice like a peoples and not super villain many of those prejudice will fade away overtime.

    • @artsmart_5805
      @artsmart_5805 Год назад +2

      Bro really woke up and could've done anything but decided to speak fax les goo 🔥🔥

  • @ShadowCammando24
    @ShadowCammando24 Год назад +1049

    Static Shock did an amazing job of portraying actual racism in a very real and meaningful way.

  • @user-zk1km8rr2h
    @user-zk1km8rr2h 10 месяцев назад +34

    The white dad was racist but he wasn’t evil. He did care about his missing son and this is the message in the episode. He learned to accept a black guy as a friend.

  • @SnakeIsGambling6435
    @SnakeIsGambling6435 Год назад +158

    “Anyone is capable of racism and anyone who is racist is capable of changing” true dat

  • @googleisevil8958
    @googleisevil8958 Год назад +622

    Static showed Richie's father as a misguided human. He was wrong for hating Virgil but was shown to be a decent enough guy to go looking for his son. He even admitted to Virgil's father he was worried about him and wanted to do what's best for him. Even if it was misguided.
    Then in the Christmas episode, you can see him with Richie in a multi-faith mass meant for everyone who considered themselves the Children of God to worship and praise Him. He was scowling, yeah, but just being there showed character growth.
    Fast forward twenty years and now we have Penny Proud shaming her own friend for going out with a black boy who had a preference for white women. That was his only crime. Was the kid a "race traitor?" Is it wrong for white and black people to date each other? How is it that 50 years after the Civil Rights Movement we find ourselves back at square one?

    • @galaxyjfoster4554
      @galaxyjfoster4554 11 месяцев назад +34

      It was really Penny's friends. Penny just ended up getting put in the middle of it and stuck because of them. She did lean a tiny bit towards the other girls instead of standing up for Zoey. I'll admit that.

    • @hungtheheroluu
      @hungtheheroluu 9 месяцев назад +19

      I have two friends who are in a relationship, one is a white girl and the other a black boy. I don't see anything wrong with them dating and I'm happy for both of them. Love should just be a natural and beautiful thing that brings people together, regardless of their background.

    • @user-eh2jk6mf9s
      @user-eh2jk6mf9s 8 месяцев назад +5

      Don't know how you are back to square one. Where I live there's tons of mixed families and different races and no one gives a shit because it has been like that for a long time and also there's a lot of tourists passing through. We've literally been taken over and ruled with an iron fist by the Turks for 5 centuries, they tried to force us to change our religion, gave us little freedom, even took children from their families to train and enlist as enichars, to serve the sultan. Do we still have some lingering problems from all that? Yes, we are still weary. Do we blame every Muslim or Turkish person and acting like racists towards them? No, we are good neighbors and here in the south we even share holidays and exchange gifts, it is great. Even the Roma we tolerate, as long as they don't lurk and try to steal something, which happens. One jumped the fence at my grandparents' and almost stole the kazan before my grandpa and a neighbour chased him down with sticks and stones. They even threw some at his and his buddies' getaway car and managed to return some stolen iron and electric tools to the other neighbours. There's reason everyone keeps a rolling pin by the door.

    • @MrRoman0629
      @MrRoman0629 7 месяцев назад

      I think this situation, although somewhat set up, perfectly sums this up.
      ruclips.net/video/V1SVjd6pL0I/видео.htmlsi=6gNlfBE4FPNe-vGS

    • @CaptainPoseidon282
      @CaptainPoseidon282 6 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@user-eh2jk6mf9sThe ideologys that the media has. Like the newspaper back then was about ensuring equality but now, although as you said it's rarer for this to happen people act like it's just as bad

  • @Brighter_Light
    @Brighter_Light Год назад +858

    Another good show that tackles racism is the original Teen Titans. The episode "Troq" (S4 E6) had a great representation on how some people will never change no matter how hard you try but there are still people out there that are accepting to anyone no matter your race, religion or origin. New shows really need to look back and see how racism is actually tackled.

    • @RustyNips
      @RustyNips Год назад +50

      Also shows that you can be rasist to anyone not just black people

    • @SupHapCak
      @SupHapCak Год назад +18

      Or they just stop talking about race because how the old shows did it the first time worked to eliminate it almost completely
      There are people who will “never change” but it’s mostly small communities who are all related and don’t want ANY strangers to move in.

    • @christianjohnson5379
      @christianjohnson5379 Год назад +28

      Well technically I wouldn't say that's what that episode was teaching. If anything the episode focused on Starfire, she experienced prejudice, yet she did not use that as an excuse to sit around and do nothing just because she was offended, she put the mission before her feelings, and despite the prejudice she was dealt with by Valmer, she still saved his life because even though he didn't value her life, she still valued his. It shows that we should still treat people like human beings even if they are prejudiced or bigoted, the lesson was that we should always take the high road and do what's right even when we're being mistreated by others. Valmer even acknowledges Starfire at the end and even avoids calling her "Troq" out of respect, but unfortunately the part where the writers screwed up in the episode was having Robin, Cyborg in the rest of the team shun Valmer at the very end, which caused Valmer to delve deeper into his prejudices and even lump humans in with Tamaranians. They should have been more respectful to him, even if Valmer's prejudice wasn't all extinguished at once, because of Starfire's actions, a door which was previously closed in his mind had been opened. Shady Doorags talks about this episode, you should watch that video: ruclips.net/video/upWYWeogcxE/видео.html&feature=share8

    • @AndreNitroX
      @AndreNitroX Год назад +18

      How is it that the creators of shows back in the early 2000s got the message so right and now it’s been so flanderized that it does more harm than good.

    • @christianjohnson5379
      @christianjohnson5379 Год назад

      ​@@AndreNitroX I think harm is the intention, under the guise of promoting "tolerance". Their goal is literally to divide and brainwash younger people, to make black Americans believe they are always victims, and make white Americans feel guilty for what their ancestors might have done.

  • @BoscoBop
    @BoscoBop Месяц назад +4

    one show attempts to dismantle racism or leave room for it to be dismantled in the future. the other promotes it and demands change now. i gotta say i really like how static shock tackled it. i remember watching it as a kid. i'm so thankful i grew up on shows like that and not the reboot slop shown today.

  • @FortunAdlaich
    @FortunAdlaich Год назад +478

    Gotta say, humanizing the dad character and having him change and grow as a person is a superb way to tackle racism

    • @no-one-787
      @no-one-787 11 месяцев назад +30

      Well yeah, obviously. Because human beings are not as simple as cartoonishly evil villains. People are rational, even if their reasoning is faulty. Even if a person's reason for believing something is based on an untruth, they are still using their faculty of reason to come to such a conclusion. Humans are complex and rational beings. Rational, of course, doesn't always mean right, it just means that we think. All the more reason to believe in people and accept a change of heart.

    • @real_rutmen
      @real_rutmen 11 месяцев назад

      ​​@@no-one-787uhh, sorry but you're wrong. Many people ARE simply evil and are irrational. Also even being rational doesn't mean that a person can change

    • @patatoe2124
      @patatoe2124 7 месяцев назад +15

      Humanizing the dad is so important. Racists are human. They might be wonderful in other areas of their life. While being racist is obviously terrible, you have to be mega racist for it to define your entire building

    • @patatoe2124
      @patatoe2124 7 месяцев назад +2

      Being*

    • @liamphibia
      @liamphibia 4 месяца назад +1

      Hell yes.

  • @Courier_Seven
    @Courier_Seven Год назад +330

    The younger generation NEEDS more shows like static shock, teen titans, batman beyond, samurai jack, xiaolin showdown, avatar, one piece, and dragon ball z.
    All these shows have exceptional storytelling and meaningful, positive messaging from everything including racial issues to just genuinely being a decent person, fighting for what you believe to be right and just etc.
    These newer shows, especially the reboots are so dumbed down i can actually feel my brain cells dying if i watch for too long.

    • @Courier_Seven
      @Courier_Seven Год назад +13

      @@Who_IsLike_God woke elements yeah, but I wouldn't say it has gone full blown woke or it would've drop massively in popularity. Plus I think Oda is lowkey based. Alot of Japan is.

    • @mzakami3090
      @mzakami3090 Год назад +16

      @@Who_IsLike_GodThe main theme of One Piece is Liberation. It was ALWAYS “woke”, you probably just didn’t realize it until Fishman Island.

    • @wazard5772
      @wazard5772 Год назад +5

      Jackie chan adventures

    • @spookysushi4079
      @spookysushi4079 Год назад +3

      if ur talking about yamato shes not trans @@Who_IsLike_God

    • @adamlolbonus4977
      @adamlolbonus4977 11 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@Who_IsLike_God bro what? Touch grass

  • @gamingmoth4542
    @gamingmoth4542 Год назад +347

    I’d say that the reason why this example with Static Shock also handled Racism better is because it tackled Racism on an individual basis instead of trying to push it on a Collective Basis. If an individual does something wrong it makes complete sense to call them out and try to correct the behavior. But if you try to punish an individual for the actions of someone else simply because they are “in the same group” all you’re gonna do is end up causing more resentment. Individuals don’t like being punished for actions that they as individuals didn’t commit.

    • @wieldylattice3015
      @wieldylattice3015 Год назад +10

      Absolutely! Imagine if you’re playing Halo online and there’s a tiny friendly fire incident that ends with your teammate accidentally killing another teammate, and not just the guy who threw the grenade gets kicked, but you and the guy that got ‘sploded

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 Год назад +5

      indeed, and that is when "push comes to shove", not just causing more resentment but also enraging the other groups just as much as your group, what ever happened back then was over a century ago and these people who are "pushing the message" that end up being unironically racist are fanning the embers that have been left a long time ago

    • @OperatorMax1993
      @OperatorMax1993 Год назад +3

      @@wieldylattice3015 which would certainly be confusing since you didn't do anything yet it's seen as your fault
      though in a video game, you'd probably go look for another server and wait until the animosity goes away

  • @CDW123
    @CDW123 11 месяцев назад +4

    Man, you NAILED this video! Instant Sub.

  • @themaninthestars891
    @themaninthestars891 Год назад +2596

    "use your white privilege!!"
    Bro is screaming that shit like it is some kind of superpower 😭😭😭

    • @dreamstone00
      @dreamstone00 11 месяцев назад +216

      That's a thing?! *Starts colouring skin with peach Crayola markers*

    • @Foxthatisaplush
      @Foxthatisaplush 9 месяцев назад +192

      Why they treating it like a dragon ball powerup 💀💀

    • @simonhailom2477
      @simonhailom2477 9 месяцев назад +109

      "WHI-WHI-TE PRIVEEEEELEGE!!!!!"

    • @i.c.2552
      @i.c.2552 8 месяцев назад +37

      Has anyone, white or black, ever specified what white privilege is?

    • @VoidMcNoid
      @VoidMcNoid 8 месяцев назад +63

      Context to the scene : he’s shouting that to his husband. His openly GAY husband.
      Like sir….you aren’t exactly doing much. That’s like going on vacation and asking your friend to order in Spanish because you don’t know how to speak Spanish, but they only know German.

  • @dejellybeanz8260
    @dejellybeanz8260 Год назад +857

    I'm gonna say it right now: Racism is not an issue exclusive to black people, it's everyone's issue. Black people are capable of being racist to other ethnic groups as well i.e white people. This shouldn't be a matter of getting karma back at them or trading blows to get even with them, racism is bad in general. Instead of calling people out in the past for racism and blame in one every individual of future generation to stir a conflict and make them feel bad, show the cause and effect of racism and learn to be a better person. Understand and communicate properly.

    • @cybertramon0012
      @cybertramon0012 Год назад +64

      Agreed. If all we do is trade who’s on top and who’s getting kicked into the mud, nothing will really change. The oppressed will become the oppressors, and the only excuse they will use is that the other side deserved it for past actions. The only way to really fix the system is to treat everyone the same instead of putting a specific group on a pedestal. Because things so far show that we as a species are incapable of lifting someone up without pushing down.

    • @isolatedanonymous1979
      @isolatedanonymous1979 Год назад

      This is completely false 😂 white ppl can experience racism cuz the system is literally built FOR THEM like bffr.

    • @samstits8982
      @samstits8982 Год назад

      No that’s prejudice not racism. Racism is prejudice + Institutional power. Only white people can be racist.
      Just kidding lol.

    • @alphabloodpaw3233
      @alphabloodpaw3233 Год назад +8

      Thank you

    • @kyubeyz_7062
      @kyubeyz_7062 Год назад +31

      Adding on to this to put it in simple terms:
      Oppression is not a prerequisite to discrimination. Its the product of it.
      If we can accept men can be discriminated against just as much as women, then we should be able to accept that it can happen to white people too. It’s nowhere near as common but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, and ignoring it will only make things worse.

  • @music79075
    @music79075 Год назад +122

    0:16 thats some gaslighting language.
    The guy didn't sound defensive at all. He sounded confused.

    • @kingofdeath9012
      @kingofdeath9012 4 месяца назад +4

      Homeboy didn't even bring up race from what I could hear

  • @Edgar_Hoods
    @Edgar_Hoods 11 месяцев назад +4

    I miss the good old days when shows understood what racism is, and how we solve it.

  • @suspiciousstar7547
    @suspiciousstar7547 Год назад +316

    The problem is that while these shows try to tackle racism, they are being racist themselves. If the scenes were reversed and instead it said "wrongly convicting a black guy" or "black fragility", everyone will be losing it. I feel like people are forgetting that racism isn't towards just one race and done by one race. And now that times have changed and we can actually talk about these issues, these new shows execute it in the *worst ways possible.*
    Anyways, thank you for analyzing and comparing Static Shock to the Proud Family reboot. That's an actual show who did it right without hurting anyone in the process. You earned a new sub!

    • @patchmoulton5438
      @patchmoulton5438 Год назад

      It isn't that they forgot, it's that they redefined the word and moved the goal post. It was "prejudiced against another race," and anyone sane would still use that. But now, they've changed it to "prejudiced and power," to ensure that only ONE race can be racist in their eyes.

    • @snatched2348
      @snatched2348 Год назад

      Well no shit this has happened for years

    • @CowCommando
      @CowCommando Год назад +19

      Your example about flipping things also works as an example of when addressing a topic was done well too. If we race swap the Static Shock characters, all the lessons still work, and the message is retained. That only works when your massage is against racism rather than against a race.

    • @JT5555
      @JT5555 Год назад +1

      but they did say black fragility. in that same lounder and prounder ep,wizard kelly (the very rich black man that basically owns their city) just outright denied any racist shit was going down so i think dijonay chimes in with "sounds like BLACK fragility". so there's that.

    • @urgae9125
      @urgae9125 Год назад +1

      The episode I find to be a problem from louder and prouder is the Zoe bashing episode. If Mr. RUclipsr had posted the context to the other episode, being white gay man denied that his family were slave owners because “that can’t be,” and “they’re not like that,” it’s silly to try and misconstrue this as “we’re punishing him for what his family did.” No, they’re telling you denying a fact is shitty, and that it should be known that she indeed was a slave. No one is shaking him for what his family did, they’re shaming him for denying proof that they did. But time for me to criticize the Zoe episode.
      The Zoe episode was absolutely dogshite. The girls chose to alienate/bully Zoe for something she did not know, ESPECIALLY when they said to her face she wasn’t attractive enough to catch any black guys except Myron. She literally APOLOGIZED TO THEM after they verbally abused her, and they didn’t say shit back to her. She was done so dirty by them for no reason. They chose to believe rumors at face value, and then blame Zoe for having no clue she was being fetishized, instead of talking with her, and then confronting Mr. I only date white girls. Not to even mention they made little gay boy Native just so they could dress him up as Pocahontas. Which, that movie is very racist for what they did to Matoaka’s story. They took a child who was kidnapped by an adult man, and kept away from her family the rest of her life, and made it a love story. Then they dressed some kid up as her. And shoehorned in his Native blood just to do it. They could have done something much more respectful to Matoaka, like dressing him in accurate clothing she’d have worn, and then it wouldn’t have been as insulting.

  • @robottiye9171
    @robottiye9171 Год назад +1005

    It's sad to see society repeating history once again. Victim mentality is proof that we're evolving backwards. By the way, you speak facts on the double standards of racism in media and that we shouldn't be guilty just because our ancestors did something bad. I'm holding on hope that one day, we'll learn from the past and move on to the future.
    (You deserve subs btw.)

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +46

      Yup, I feel the same.

    • @irregulargamer1352
      @irregulargamer1352 Год назад

      it honestly makes me think that there are people just pushing to make racism an everlasting problem in order to profit off the buzz it drives. it gives news media and politicians so much to work off of while ignoring things like income, the working class and housing. easier for them to say racism is bad or for poc to be blamed for things than to actually solve things like poverty, crime and healthcare.

    • @youtubecruiser6819
      @youtubecruiser6819 Год назад +57

      No serious person is saying white people should feel bad because their ancestors were racist. That's the conservative party strawman. Ignoring racist systems doesn't help. That's what should be discussed.

    • @Piss_Off_Plz
      @Piss_Off_Plz Год назад +11

      History is doomed to repeat itself no matter how hard we try to prevent it. It's inevitable

    • @irregulargamer1352
      @irregulargamer1352 Год назад +58

      @@youtubecruiser6819 no one's ignoring anything. Maybe just treat people like people. Because what's the take away with an approach like yours? that people like us are the problem and there's no changing that? It literally solves nothing. We're both aware that it's not good to be racist so why are you lumping us up with those people consider racist. How does that solve anything?

  • @mikeburkhart8336
    @mikeburkhart8336 Год назад +165

    Static Shock was able to tackle issues like racism without belittling and insulting people in the process...in other words,Disney didn't produce Static Shock.

    • @mbii7667
      @mbii7667 Год назад +15

      Sadly WB, who own my once-favorite franchise DC Comics, are just as bad now

    • @Furstofoctober
      @Furstofoctober 3 месяца назад

      @@mikeburkhart8336 you deserve to be belittled and it's hilarious to watch u cry

  • @Xenyr_The_Fool
    @Xenyr_The_Fool 20 дней назад +1

    These newer shows get stuff like this wrong because the goal ironically isn’t unity. One side MUST be put in their place never to stand as equal again, no reconciliation just more division.
    Glad this episode of Static Shock hasn’t been forgotten.

  • @Razor773_YT
    @Razor773_YT Год назад +242

    I think a big difference is Static shock showed all the characters as fallible human beings, and the dad overcomes his prejudice and accepts his son’s friend, and everyone moves forward together. Velma and Prouder try to make it out to be an “us versus them” topic and tries to guilt and force white people into “Being better” when we have more in common than we have differences. That’s the difference.

  • @trentonhamilton645
    @trentonhamilton645 Год назад +187

    Back in the early 2000s, When streaming services haven't been made, I was in elementary school watching Saturday Morning cartoons:
    Static Shock, Mucha Lucha, Yu-Gi-Oh, Batman Beyond, X-Men Evolution, Jackie Chan Adventures, Pokémon, and Xiaolin Showdown, were the most prominent shows ever hit to Kids WB, solely due to the fact they balance Child Friendly Aesthetic with mature themed content that a lot of audiences can relate to with creative writing.
    Same can also be said about other television programs outside the network such as The Proud Family (2001) where they tackled heavy topics as well.
    The biggest issue we are seeing is how newer shows, reboots, and continuations are more focused on pushing the message rather than explore context with their storylines.

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +28

      Exactly. Makes me miss the good old days and appreciate the past even more.

    • @darth_hideous-l9q
      @darth_hideous-l9q Год назад +6

      In my early years, I thrived off of DVD copies of SpongeBob, Batman TAS, Word World, The Three Stooges, Tom and Jerry and the holy grail.....✨️Veggietales ✨️

    • @silverhawkscape2677
      @silverhawkscape2677 Год назад +9

      What's worst about Proud Family is that the same director of the Original wanted the show to go further even back then.
      Yes. Sadly. Louder and Prouder is closer to what they really wanted.

    • @draykohunter6805
      @draykohunter6805 Год назад +5

      ​@Scandalous_Scallywag 😢 You guys have all just described my childhood all the cartoons I'd watch every other morning, especially the weekends at my grandmother's house.
      Such simpler times.

    • @flamestoyershadowkill
      @flamestoyershadowkill Год назад +1

      yugioh and pokemon wer anime that were gimped by 4kids.

  • @pastrypanda2446
    @pastrypanda2446 Год назад +1277

    Those overly trying to be “socially aware” and “fighting racism” end up being the most racists.

    • @squatchhammer7215
      @squatchhammer7215 Год назад

      It's due to their viewpoints are skewed towards racism. It's a new version of self hatred and they think that changing others will absolve their own racist thoughts.

    • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
      @DavidMartinez-ce3lp Год назад +26

      Exactly

    • @yuriventura5601
      @yuriventura5601 Год назад

      My thing is why is it okay when it's towards black people and why is it when white people get poked back at (Or any racial group that heavily looks down on black people) all of a sudden this has to stop? Everyone puts a blind eye at the alarming amount of countries and ethnic groups that hate black skin even in their own community however when it's being rushed out by us racism is on everyone's mind now...

    • @zaptrapelectric2634
      @zaptrapelectric2634 Год назад +61

      So in other words, 80% of the American democratic party.

    • @FurryMLG
      @FurryMLG Год назад +14

      Yeah, the irony hits 'em like a train.

  • @mr.misanthrope1991
    @mr.misanthrope1991 14 дней назад +2

    If static shock came out today it’d be called woke and people would be crying how it shoved its ideals down your throat. It’s remembered fondly because it’s nostalgia.

  • @0aghost0
    @0aghost0 Год назад +120

    static shock was awesome for a lot of reasons, but I loved that it tackled a lot of things without blaming or deeming the viewer - especially since Virgil, who is still portrayed as kind-hearted, helpful and smart, admits that he has engaged in the behavior that the message of the story is going against, apologies, and works hard to make a positive impact despite past mistakes. a good example is the episode with a mentally ill, homeless orphaned girl - she talks about how when you are homeless, everyone ignores you and treats you like you are invisible - Virgil admits that he has done it before too, before hugging her and connecting her to a local church program and getting her resources for help. its not only heartwarming, but having your protagonist admit they have contributed to something unfair and not be shamed for it makes the viewer themselves more willing to address their own actions too.

  • @gregwilliams4926
    @gregwilliams4926 Год назад +306

    What really helped Static Shock with racism is with pairing Sean Foley with Robert Hawkings, Back then I didn't meet any black person that were treated differently until Middle School and the dialog with Robert really hits home and changed Sean, showing that Richie's best friend and his family are colored and aren't criminals like he lables them. Nowadays its just bash bash bash, with no redeeming moments. "The white person/male gender is the bad guy, always be a bad guy and that's final."

    • @silverhawkscape2677
      @silverhawkscape2677 Год назад +11

      They are teaching it in schools.

    • @mbii7667
      @mbii7667 Год назад

      ​@@silverhawkscape2677 and they're trying to label any parent who stands against a domestic terrorist

    • @silverhawkscape2677
      @silverhawkscape2677 Год назад

      @@mbii7667 It's ridiculous. Then again they don't view Parents as the Primary stakeholder of the Child even screaming Kids are not Property. Property of whom the Parents? Because they sure don't mean the state

    • @mbii7667
      @mbii7667 Год назад

      @@silverhawkscape2677 the state would LOVE to take over parenting duties

    • @kinsdonn
      @kinsdonn 7 месяцев назад

      @@silverhawkscape2677no they aren’t…

  • @pchound5962
    @pchound5962 Год назад +230

    "Black supremacy is as dangerous as white supremacy, and God is not interested merely in the freedom of black men and brown men and yellow men,"
    "God is interested in the freedom of the whole human race and the creation of a society where all men will live together as brothers, and all men will respect the dignity and the worth of all human personality."
    -MLK

    • @anderto4
      @anderto4 Год назад +25

      "We shouldn't judge someone by their skin color, but by their personality." or smth like that
      is that quote also from the GOAT MLK ?

    • @yeetthegargantuanleviathan6216
      @yeetthegargantuanleviathan6216 Год назад +10

      ​@@anderto4it was content of their character but close enough

    • @You-wp4ic
      @You-wp4ic 11 месяцев назад

      I hate green men

  • @trekkienzl2862
    @trekkienzl2862 11 месяцев назад +3

    The original Proud Family series tackled racism very well as well (see Season 1, Episode 15 in 2002) where they addressed segregation during the Jim Crow, showing that race doesn't have to be a thing to stop people from simply being together as friends.
    Can't say that 'Proud Family reboot, Louder and Prouder' holds a candle to the original 2000s Proud Family series.

  • @exitsandman4002
    @exitsandman4002 Год назад +97

    pov: you claim to be so anti-racism that you loop around and become racist

    • @ethanol294
      @ethanol294 Год назад +15

      "You have become the very thing you swore to destroy!"

    • @achair7265
      @achair7265 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@ethanol294 *"You were the chosen one!"*

  • @Faceplates330
    @Faceplates330 Год назад +239

    I feel like a lot of people know about Lovecraft and his infamous racism. However, letters were found dated near the end of his life from him to one of his colleagues, and he basically talked about how embarrassed he was about the fact he'd been racist. People *can* change.

    • @ThatBlueSkull
      @ThatBlueSkull Год назад

      I mean I'd say his racism most likely came out of his mental illness, Not saying it's okay to do or excuse it because he has a mental illness but it'd make sense for a man so paranoid to not trust people he most likely never met before so he'd change once he got more world experience.

    • @lordofchromium1534
      @lordofchromium1534 Год назад +28

      Based if true

    • @Gerald-of-Riviera
      @Gerald-of-Riviera 11 месяцев назад +25

      You comment this on any lovecraftian video and you'll be swarmed by fans and non fans saying he was always racist lol

    • @real_rutmen
      @real_rutmen 11 месяцев назад +1

      Doesn't mean that they deserve a change or a chance

    • @FVStageII-hg3dp
      @FVStageII-hg3dp 11 месяцев назад +2

      I think Lovecraft was xenophobic more than anything else

  • @ArcTrooper269
    @ArcTrooper269 Год назад +451

    I'M SO HAPPY STATIC SHOCK IS GETTING A LOT OF RECOGNITION AGAIN
    *A show perfect for its Time that has aged Perfectly*

    • @TDI_CharlieBrown
      @TDI_CharlieBrown Год назад +10

      Agreed. Now.... WB... PLEEEEEASE DON'T REBOOT IT! LEAVE THIS ONE ALONE!!!

    • @gnarleytarley3870
      @gnarleytarley3870 Год назад +11

      to bad the comics now got rebooted and he got his powers from a BLM riot. Tear gas from the police caused the big bang.....

    • @TDI_CharlieBrown
      @TDI_CharlieBrown Год назад +7

      @@gnarleytarley3870 pleae tell me you are joking

    • @gnarleytarley3870
      @gnarleytarley3870 Год назад +4

      @@TDI_CharlieBrown Nope not at all I can even show you I have the first issue

    • @sonicmiku3009
      @sonicmiku3009 Год назад

      Right, this show needs to come back!!!

  • @Alcatonic
    @Alcatonic 11 месяцев назад +3

    Static Shock tackled so many topics that children may have to face.

  • @thanglongnguyenvu3815
    @thanglongnguyenvu3815 Год назад +193

    You know what? The detail that really stood out to me was that instead of letting a the hero, Static, convince an adult of doing the right thing, they showed one adult man talking sense into another adult man, and the final push was Static proving his loyalty to his friend--the man's son--by saving him. That's awesome. Sure, having Static saying the right thing would've been the traditional formula, but a stubborn adult would be hard to convince. Moreso if the convincing side is just a kid.

    • @mbii7667
      @mbii7667 Год назад +19

      Yeah, having Richie's and Virgil's dads playing off of each other was great

    • @makeda6530
      @makeda6530 Год назад +4

      They don't write adult men like they used to.

    • @rianmela3825
      @rianmela3825 Год назад +2

      ​@@makeda6530yeah, they write them horribly because they're men. Either that or fans bash them for writing good man characters, and they're forced into it

  • @phoenix5029
    @phoenix5029 Год назад +90

    Ultimately, I feel the main problem with shows today with big issues is that they come off as either patronizing at best, or insufferably preachy at worst...
    Using a real problem as a punchline like _Velma_ did gives off the impression you're not interested in taking it seriously, and preaching like _Louder and Prouder_ can potentially backfire if their reason for it turns out to be misplaced.

    • @assiaelmabrouki5552
      @assiaelmabrouki5552 Год назад

      Velma creators had some harmful messages to spread and thought they were smart when making comments about white people. And Proud Family got contaminated by this weird entitled social movement. They ruined the soul of this show.

    • @mbii7667
      @mbii7667 Год назад

      There are plenty of white people who get wrongly convicted as well. There's entire true crime shows and podcasts about them.

  • @dog7426
    @dog7426 Год назад +85

    I feel that a lot of people think that the problem with modern shows is that topics such as racism are being covered. But as you pointed out, the problem isn’t that these topics are being covered, but instead how they’re being covered. The way most companies do it now feels disingenuous. As though their efforts is to just take in more demographics and in turn more money. I really hope this changes because it is causing a lot of social issues to become delegitimized.

  • @hubertdenise3100
    @hubertdenise3100 Месяц назад +3

    Another show that did a good job with teaching about Racism was the original teen titans show that came out in 2000’s, in one episode the titans go into space and meet a hero named Val Yor, and they all like him because he’s heroic, cool, confident, and invites them on his ship to do a mission, except for Starfire who he calls a troc.No one else notices how he’s acting with Starfire, except for Cyborg eventually who notices this and when he calls her that name, she gets mad and explains what it means after previously saying it’s nothing, and Cyborg relates, then he tells the other titans who get mad and tell him off, rejecting him as even after Starfire saves his life he refuses to apologise or admit his prejudice towards tamaranians, calling her a good troq.

  • @thibautisserant
    @thibautisserant Год назад +143

    It's insane to think that the Boondocks, a show that was parodying a lot of things about blacks and whites in general, and racism of course, got more accurate and subtle than Proud Family...

    • @dinoblacklane1640
      @dinoblacklane1640 7 месяцев назад +25

      The Martin Luther King JR scene just never be allowed to be made these days, despite being more relevant now than ever

  • @e2daron
    @e2daron Год назад +86

    I don’t think that Velma was trying to tackle the issue of racism. That show constantly makes bad white people jokes as an attempt to make people laugh instead of sending a message. Velma clearly fails due to the jokes being both unfunny, racist, and mean-spirited on their own.

  • @DavidMartinez-ce3lp
    @DavidMartinez-ce3lp Год назад +220

    Ya know what was really great about the Static Shock episode. Richie's dad wasn't the main villain, Ebon was. They still allowed for Richie to be redeemed. And he did redeem himself by proving he cared for his son over everything else.
    I also really like how Ebon is just so committed to his plan/goals no matter what the episodes about. Love his dedication and commitment.

    • @SupHapCak
      @SupHapCak Год назад +13

      Richie was an easy target to knock down, too
      He thought black people were hoodlums and Virgil proved he wasn’t a hoodlum (and his dad is a cop, too)
      I just feel like that was a really easy thing to prove to someone
      You can’t fix the certain people who body check aisian elderly people just for being asians.

    • @mbii7667
      @mbii7667 Год назад +6

      Ebon was the reason Richie's dad had the negative perception of black people in the first place

    • @themindeclectic9821
      @themindeclectic9821 Год назад +2

      ​@@SupHapCakhis dad isn't a cop he manages the community center, but his mom was

    • @talmiz101
      @talmiz101 Год назад +1

      @@themindeclectic9821 his Mom was a Medic not a Cop bud.

    • @Animestar21
      @Animestar21 Год назад

      @@themindeclectic9821 pretty sure you’re thinking of his dad’s girlfriend

  • @WesternEchidna
    @WesternEchidna Месяц назад +2

    the difference here (for me at least) is Static Shock felt more grounded and serious in it's tone. Making the moments feel more real. Proud Family jams it down your throat and the writing and acting is so over the top that it feels more like a parody.

  • @sycho-tech5104
    @sycho-tech5104 Год назад +94

    Family guy had a decent episode about Racism (I know right). In the episode; it was Jerome refusing to let his daughter date Chris because he was white, while defending that he Can’t be racist because he himself was black. I feel it was an effective and more modernized take on the subject. (The overall story, not Peters stupid song).
    Even still, Static Shock is one of my favorite superhero shows to this day. And while I agree they did an episode about racism better, I’d go one set further and say that if they did an episode on any subject, then they did it better.
    One of my top 10 episodes is ‘Frozen Out’ which give clear discussion about homelessness, and mental trauma.

    • @theresahall3912
      @theresahall3912 Год назад +3

      Yeah always hated hearing excuses like from the racist that made it into the news.

    • @ugan2
      @ugan2 Год назад +6

      Won't lie, found it funny how it was Peter who was the most tolerant about it. Like he just expected Chris's gf to be fat but didn't care if she was black. Meanwhile, you had Lois who was doing the typical list all the black people I like thing, and Brian who was the exaggeration of a white knight.

    • @Zrich98
      @Zrich98 Год назад +7

      Family guy actually taught us better lessons on racism than louder and prouder and Velma😭😭😭

    • @RustyNips
      @RustyNips Год назад

      Hey that song is one of the best from that show lol

    • @SupHapCak
      @SupHapCak Год назад

      Yeah the song was just stupid and annoying things (not even bad things)
      It undercuts the message of the whole show
      I really hate when they act like white people being ignorant about black people’s “struggles” is the same as actively hating them while saying the worst, demoralizing shiz to a white person that makes them want to off themselves is just them being “a little insulting”

  • @spacetaco048
    @spacetaco048 Год назад +307

    I took an "ethnics studies" class that was literally all about this perverted sense of justice. Glad to have a video like this remind me of the real ways I already grew up around.

    • @WretchedRedoran
      @WretchedRedoran Год назад +36

      I'm gonna be real with you, ethnics studies sounds like something you'd see eugenicists from the 1920's talking about

    • @spacetaco048
      @spacetaco048 Год назад +26

      @@WretchedRedoran no its about "tackling racism" through the left-wing ideology of doing it. Through focusing on race and minorities and the interactions between races and the system and society.
      I think it does actually teach some interesting things about history but adding all these ideas like "we need to focus on race rather than be color blind" is really obviously a politically charged idea.

    • @WretchedRedoran
      @WretchedRedoran Год назад +4

      @@spacetaco048 I was just saying that, at first glance, it sounds pretty sketchy due to the name.

    • @Gothams_Arkham_Knight
      @Gothams_Arkham_Knight Год назад

      I took it a couple years ago when I was a Freshamn, most boring class ever. I was still pretty oblivious to the stupid shit they were shoving down our throats so I’m glad I was able to recognize it before it became ingrained as “fact.” Fuck California

    • @spacetaco048
      @spacetaco048 Год назад +1

      @@humanist.vampyre they basically stab themselves in the foot
      If someone wants to end racism, why attack the very people who are supposedly "racist" cause isn't that just going to make them actually racist?

  • @jestersraven408
    @jestersraven408 Год назад +82

    I feel like most older shows tackled racism better then Modern shows do in general in fact I feel like they tackled most of these types of topics better because they had too these topics were more controversial back then and they risked having the entire show pulled off the air if some of these topics were handled poorly while modern shows do it for clout and will be defended even if they just use negative stereotypes

    • @demonking-zm3rs
      @demonking-zm3rs Год назад +6

      Not really the way this video is formated really shows the weird insecurities certain people have about the topic. Early cartoons had this weird sanitized version of racism ( which of course its meant for children)
      But actual adult shouldn't uphold these versions as good or great depictions yknow because there for children removed from real context and basically there to say "its bad be better"
      Good moral lesson doesn't add much when people forget that if your daily Is already founded on propaganda from 100 years ago why would racism end because we all pretend to be color blind and pretend the system isn't at its core racist

    • @toddscanlan2574
      @toddscanlan2574 Год назад +4

      ​@@demonking-zm3rs What "system" are you referring to? How is it racist to its core? Speaking in ambiguities solves nothing.

    • @mbii7667
      @mbii7667 Год назад

      ​@@demonking-zm3rs the system in America is not at its core racist. That's a delusional as believing the earth is flat or there are more than 2 genders.

  • @bartdude82
    @bartdude82 11 месяцев назад +3

    I just started the video so idk if this will be shown but OG Teen Titans cartoon did an amazing job touching on racism and the crazy part is, the racism happen to Starfire instead of what most of us would expect with Cyborg. And it was beautiful how Cyborg ended up being the one to relate to and help Starfire in her experience with it.
    Old cartoons just…do it better smh

  • @AlbertBalbastreMorte
    @AlbertBalbastreMorte Год назад +96

    I was relatively grown up to enjoy the Proud Family, but I remember it was an adorable, well executed cartoon about a loving family, and I looked fondly at the idea of a reboot. Funny how even the most loving cartoons are now mean. We're in the era of being mean.

    • @AlbertBalbastreMorte
      @AlbertBalbastreMorte Год назад +5

      Taking a second look, I'm thinking maybe this episode has the opposite lesson at the end? As in all the characters are caught up in mob mentality and realise their wrongdoings at the end. A typical cartoon episode. I would hope so at least.

    • @crossovers101
      @crossovers101 Год назад +11

      You honestly explained this so well, I’ve wanted to say something like this but didn’t know what words to describe the matter.

    • @AlbertBalbastreMorte
      @AlbertBalbastreMorte Год назад +2

      @@crossovers101 I had to think about why this bothered me for a while.

  • @mirayzie
    @mirayzie Год назад +148

    Well also, louder and prouders attempt at portraying racism, wasn’t really even that as the guy who liked Zoey was black, which kinda tears apart the argument, because it really came off more as dating preference, then him not wanting to date anyone because he was racist, plus there wasn’t really any attempt until things fell apart for Zoey for any of her friends to even stick by her, if it was racism she was not the problem he was, they almost destroyed the friendship in the show over this skipping over any valuable lessons that could have been taught from it, and instead made it a you’re racist if there’s any person you wouldn’t date, static not only handled the issue in the right way, but also taught the lesson properly, and showed that a person’s character is what truly matters , not their skin tone, Velma is just Mindy kalings hate baby racism series where every race is basically targeted, and clearly that show has no basis of trying to teach anyone good lessons, unfortunately a lot of cartoons these days are either dumbing themselves down so it’s nothing more then feeding kids tv junk food, or trying so hard to push a woke agenda and narrative without thinking about how anyone can learn and resonate and connect to the content they are putting out

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +18

      Yeah, I couldn’t have said it better myself. I didn’t want to go too much into the actual episodes the clips I used came from because I wanted to keep this video short, sweet, and to the point, but you nailed it.

    • @Commenter839
      @Commenter839 Год назад +39

      Not to mention, the whole thing with Noah only dating Zoey for being white falls apart when you see there were plenty of far prettier white girls he could've dated in that school.
      That episode could've been fantastic if it turned out Noah really WAS attracted to Zoey and continued dating her going forward, but that would require the show to acknowledge that the POC characters were the ones being racist this time around. That wouldn't be very woke yk

    • @thatitalianlameguy2235
      @thatitalianlameguy2235 Год назад

      Actually the black community really hates when black guys go with white women and not with their black sisters, something mocked since ever that you can also see in boondocks. The hate towards the whites who wronged them extends to the point of wanting to disassociate with them the same way they did, what hypocrisy

  • @Providence..
    @Providence.. Год назад +270

    It's depressingly ironic that racism is still alive and well because of shows like the Proud Family: Louder and Prouder. Seriously, what the hell happened within the last decade? I don't remember ever seeing all this insanity. "If we don't learn from the past, then we're doomed to repeat it" has never been more obvious to me than now. Static Shock handled so many issues in the most perfect ways, how we managed to go backwards, I'll never understand.

    • @app_function1232
      @app_function1232 Год назад

      It's the current veraion of BLM cause this, the higher member are using the movement to give them more privilages than any of the member even to the one they're aupposedly supporting. They rally in anger thus makes people believe white = evil. And it's not helping that victim card is trendy right now, which make this power abuse going outright racist.

    • @assiaelmabrouki5552
      @assiaelmabrouki5552 Год назад +14

      Me neither, it's like people still cling to these issues. It's like victimhood has become a trend or something. It's very sad to see that we haven't evolved from a bit in that field. So many old shows including "Static Shock" showed that if we hope to find a solution, we must work together. But modern shows like "Louder and Prouder" and "Velma" want to keep dividing communities and making up issues and how the other race has to pay back... What the hell people?!!

    • @501stBattalion
      @501stBattalion Год назад

      Entertainment has an affect on the culture. That is why.

    • @alanjefferson1127
      @alanjefferson1127 Год назад

      Did you not notice when you were growing up? Did you not go to a school? Our generation grew up dumb as sin and now they run the world. It shouldn't surprise anyone how dumb the world is now.

    • @derionone
      @derionone Год назад +4

      Government needs it to survive until they find something else to leach on

  • @procow2274
    @procow2274 11 месяцев назад +4

    Where does the original proud family stack with this?

  • @NewGuy2534
    @NewGuy2534 Год назад +92

    The difference is also the time. Static Shock was a new character and the writers wanted people to like and understand him. It also helped that it wasn't his entire personality.
    The (new) proud family is playing to twitter and tiktok, who has the subtlety of a sledgehammer to the face.

    • @acedelta12
      @acedelta12 Год назад +2

      “Specter, you’re about as subtle as a bag of hammers.” -Ed Seymour

  • @isaacdepaula2103
    @isaacdepaula2103 Год назад +79

    We are studying the Old Testament in Sunday School, and we were reading 1st Kings some months ago. We saw that some Kings from both North and South Kingdoms were bad but their sons sometimes were good Kings. Why? Because your past doesn't define who you are, if you are good or bad. Saying that all whites are bad because of the past, because their parents are like these or because some crazy person said that is basically racism already. You're judging someone's behavior without knowing the person, just like Ritchie father did to Static Shock
    It's beyond me how people cannot see that (btw how come nothing in that Velma's show is funny, look at those "jokes")

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +13

      Velma's not funny because the writers aren't capable of writing a compelling plot, let alone a joke.

  • @BrightElk
    @BrightElk Год назад +55

    Thank you for this video. It helped me work through something really painful and I’ll never forget that.

    • @NachtSilens
      @NachtSilens  Год назад +9

      Thank you for watching. I’m glad my video was able to help you in some way.

  • @Doodlebugthegoldenhamster
    @Doodlebugthegoldenhamster 3 месяца назад +3

    I’m predominantly white, but I’m also very much a “mutt”. I have Irish, Native American, German, and probably other genes. Encouraging hatred of white people does more harm than good. Yes, our ancestor’s practices left terrible lasting effects, but it’s impossible to stop hate with more hate. That’s why I think the concept of “race” is stupid. We’re all just trying to make it in this world; why do we have to differentiate ourselves into groups and make it more complicated?