I think Velma was greenlit for 2 seasons at the same time, but WB has never shied away from shelving projects, even if they are well received. Velma was horribly received, but they still finished and released season 2. No quality control.
WB has literally had whole movies and shows that have been DONE and READY TO SHIP and they've fucking cancelled and deleted the footage for them to prevent them from getting leaked or smth... But they can keep supporting dogshit like this?
Funny how this show wanted to make white guys the antagonist but the one rich white male of the main cast had the most character development than the characters of color
@@cosmicspacething3474 I love how the writers who clearly hate Fred gave him the closest thing to an actual character arc out of any of the characters in the entire show.
My name problem with Nicole from class of 09, we get here tragic backstory of how her dad killed himself and how she was forced to move, and within the first few minutes shitting on a guy who bases his art of anime, sure he’s shown as a creep later on but with the context of this being a stranger, she just comes off as an asshole I’ve tried multiple times to get into Class of 09, but I cannot stand the writing it’s like just like Velma
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMarioIdk about the original class of 09, but in the re-up shes 100% meant to be a horrible person, and Jecka even points it out.
The difference between this velma and Dan vs is simple. One of them tries to be so hip and with the time that they're blind to reality, and the other has to deal with the relatable annoyamces of reality... most of the time.
The funny thing is that the most grounded in reality annoyamce in Dan vs. series is in the episode which starts him hijacking the codes and almost starting nuclear war, becouse of some squirrels :D
The concept is just relatable. You may not hijack nuclear launch code in order to exterminate some insignificant animal that you perceived slightly wronged you. But god, I'm confident that you are lying if you say you have not FELT that way before, Sometimes when a bird shits on your shoulder, you wish you had a shotgun in city limits, sometimes when you step on a lego, for a half a second you want to strangle a 4yo. The action isn't relatable (hopefully), but the feeling of INCREDIBLY exaggerated rage at 1 thing going slightly wrong is something most of humanity can relate to. I find it hard however to relate to the feeling of being spiteful and judgemental of everyone around me based on their surface level demographic, or feeling the need to relate everything in my life to minor TV tropes that are arguable if they even existed, or if I just made them up to pretend I was clever and funny. The problem with Velma is nobody can relate to Velma outside of maybe like 4 people who are privileged enough to be writers for a syndicated TV show of a money printing franchise and yet still bitter about literally everything around them.
Velma is that "friend" we all have that plays off their unfettered assholery as being a "joke", Dan is that friend that comes up with the most creative roasts you've heard and you can't help but be equal parts offended and impressed.
The sad thing about Velma is the fact that the concept of a more mature scooby doo story about a murder mystery from Velma’s perspective sounds like an interesting idea to watch,it’s ashame that it was wasted.
@@valivali8104 That popularity ended up being criticism and those higher-ups prolly took this line from a song to heart: "Polarize the people, controversy is the game. It don't matter if they hate you if they all say your name."
I will say it now and forever: an adult Scooby Doo show should be one with more supernatural and horror elements that genuinely scare people not...this
There is two mature Scooby Doo installments I can name. Mystery Incorporated. Both the official cartoon and the fanmade live action that has one episode right now on RUclips.
Velma has a history before Mindy got a hold of the character and ruined her. She was a dorky, lovable nerd that helps the gang solves mysteries. She was never harsh or rude, like Mindy's Velma.
"Mindy's Velma" is literally just Mindy, she says she identified with Velma the most and yet her self-insert is literally the opposite of Velma - ignorant, rude, bigoted, selfish and cruel.
@@crazycoot647 Velma could be a jerk sometimes, but two things to note: when she was a jerk, she got karma, same as everyone else. And everyone was more jerk-ish than in other versions of the show, and this ended up having an in-universe explanation. So her sometimes being a jerk was PLOT RELEVANT.
I think its because most of the time he's just apathetic and annoyed rather than being an actual jerk. It's only when someone actually does something to him that he decides to be vindictive
@@rushalias8511 his relationship with Hortense was peak proof of that hes a sensitive person with particular tastes and other people just seem to boorishly get in his way until something crosses the line.
Most "jerk" characters have nice sides, somewhere *deep* down. Like secretly caring about the other characters or aren't jerks to certain people. Anti-velma is a villain protagonist.
I honestly don't blame him? Usually when he isn't going after revenge, he just minds his own business like a normal person until someone or something has happened to ruined his day. He's a victim in most episodes.
They way I've always seen it is that it's very annoying when a show writes a unlikable character, then gets all self righteous and acts like they're never wrong. The show constantly treats Dan like the prick he is, showing that he makes bad choices, and some of the bad things that happen to him are his fault. Velma on the other hand is an awful, unlikable person that the show acts like she's horribly mistreated and doesn't deserve to be in the circumstances that she's in, when in reality she reaps what she sows.
Funnily enough, Dan actually understands that he could be wrong or the bad guy. He just doesn't care, like when he tried to blow up the pound for letting the dogs bark all night. And then you have Dan Vs Fast Food, where he's protesting a restaurant that ignored his request prepare his food according to his allergies, being lactose intolerant. Because of them, he was in intense pain all night long, curled in a ball on the lawn. This is actually a completely reasonable thing, and all he wanted was a refund, but he was denied, so he was forced to get more creative (he's too unemployed for a lawyer). In that episode, you could say he was the good guy.
Dan is a lovable jerk with a softer side and all of his revenge plans are for a purpose. Velma here is a jerk for no reason other than thinking she’s smarter than everyone else
i think the difrents is Dan and negative qultys are treated as negative qualities but with Velma she is supposed to be in the "rghit" especially her bigotry.
By the way Dan is awesome (can't stress that enough), he's a character that has the potential to be a really good person... but he'd rather try to nuke squirrels 😂
Dan is supposed to be petty and unreasonable but somehow he's better because it's made clear that Dan is extra but Velma is portrayed as morally superior
When I saw this video 2:32 was the exact moment I imagined which I feel made Dan Vs. such a fun show to watch. Would Dan get revenge on a businessman who cut him off in traffic by destroying his house and entire business or just throwing a brick through his window after going to the ends of the earth to create the heaviest brick? Who knows, but both are on brand.
The worst thing about Velma is that Close enough was shafted in favor of it. Like, getting canceled is one thing, could happen to anyone, but getting canceled for this garbage... WB really twisted the knife is their wound, and tossed chlorine into it
Don't you find it ironic how the one character that was designed to be made fun of (fred), ended up having character development to make him a better person. The one character that become a better person, was the one they designed to be made fun of. That means the one good person in that show, was the writers most hated character. In the writers delusion, they made Fred end up becoming a good character.
What made Dan vs so funny is that the show itself isn't targeting anyone in real life in an attempt to humiliate them. Velma is just vile because none of the point make sense as commentary, especially when you can easily call out Velma for her rude behavior and hypocrisy yet the show rewards her. Even if Dan is right in his theories the show constantly shows us why no one believes him and isn't above humiliating HIM when he takes things too far. The episode where Chris and Elise trick him so they can finally get away from him is a prime example of this as they used his parinoia against him to finally relax. There's also the guy who stole Dan's identity only to get his revenge and reveal how crazy Dan is, that Dan would rather be IN JAIL because he doesn't have to be around telemarketers than to realize how fucked his situation is and Fake Dan still won. 😂 Dan vs is just funny in how absurd it is. Velma is just miserable because it actually believes the crap it's trying to sell.
I think another huge aspect that is really lost on Velma is that Dan is damned loser, and is portrayed as such. He is shown as miserable, hated, and dangerous, meanwhile the show expects that we see Velma as someone who is maybe a little abrasive because she "tells it how it is" and can sometimes be rude -- since you can't have Kaling's character be a bad person, they have to be misunderstood smart people
It isn't just that Velma is a jerk, but its that the narrative seeing her awful behavior as a good thing, rallying behind her like she's cool for being a jerk. It reminds me of bullies at school who do dumb immoral shit and everyone is egging them on for the funnies.
You did touch on this but it can’t be stressed enough that Dan GETS HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND GETS KARMA FOR HIS ACTIONS WHEN HE DOES SOMETHING TOO FAR! Plus even tho people help Dan, no one defends Dan’s attitude and actions. Chris most of time is very critical of Dan’s over the top actions even tho he goes along with it.
Does anyone else wish Dan would go against impostor Velma? The thumbnail made me think of that. I wonder what schemes he would use. Also, I think this time Chris would have nothing to object. Maybe he would criticize the schemes, but certainly not the goal of defeating Velma.
8:16 ewwwww Nux, Blehhhhhhhhhhh. Sorry I just hate discusting people like Nux, seriously he ruined another Vtuber's (Taiga) life, and refuses to apologize properly, not to mension the Shaddman mess. Point being, Nux is a big jerk, who is somewhere between Dan and Velma. Granted they are basically on opposite ends of the spectrum, but still.
Something I’ve noticed from watching critiques of bad comedies is that the writers accidentally focus on the antagonist so much they become the only likeable character to the audience or at least the one with the most depth
the difference is Dan usually has a reason before going off on someone making it justifiable, that Velma just does it just to do it, she looks like the "just look at me and that's enough reason" type
Arguably the best show with an "evil" main character is Breaking Bad. Walter White isnt excused for his actions and eveything bad he does comes back to bit him, at the same time its still very entertaining to watch him desolve into madness.
Dan is a jerk to people who wrong him. In some cases he actually is a victim. Unlike Velma who acts like one Dan at some points in the show is justified in his bad behavior (ex. When he went to the dentist)
Velma feels like it was made with contempt for the source material and so Mindy Kayling can spout her own political beliefs. Dan Vs. is funny because his acts of revenge are cartoonishly exaggerated and he always waits for someone to "wrong" him before taking action. He serves as a vehicle for those who have felt wronged to vicariously enjoy watching Dan get revenge on those he feels wronged by. Where Velma is just selfish, egotisical, petty, cruel, vindictive and self-serving for no reason. That's just the way she is.
Important note about scooby doo projects. The season two comes with the first season for the most part. You will almost always get 2 season at least of any scooby doo show these days and anything above that needs to be greenlit separately.
Master shake from aqua teen hunger force is the best way to write a jerk character. Because he got whats coming to him, and he was to dumb or prideful to realize when he got got 😂
Since you brought up Nux Taku, I'd like to let you know that he's a terrible person who's ruined someone else's livelihood and irreparably damaged their reputation, with false allegations, seemingly without remorse. I'd advise you to look into the current situation.
Will I think Velma already had the season 2. I also love Dan Vs show XD and the funny part is that I discovered the show because it was after My Little Pony v:
Velma is constantly talking about how rich people, white people, men and religious people are all bad, meanwhile Mindy kailing is an extremely privileged woman
I complained on tiktok that when watching the trailer, every second of it was an embarrassing mess. No one even believed me and think I was complaining of a cartoon show. But you, you understand that I’m not alone on this. So thank you for making this video. Velma is a disappointed mess of a show.
Another thing about the soft side of Dan, in vs. Highschool Renunion, Chris got an invitation to highschool renunion and Dan got a spite on it. When Dan has finally sabotage the renunion, everyone praises him for it. So, the invitation was meant for Dan, rather than Chris
i don't think Dan only doing stuff when provoked matters that much for making him more likeable. Because i've been antagonzied plenty of times in my life. And nobody would give a shit, if what you did had a reason or not. Granted, i didnt have many good qualities back then either. Or appear to havy any
there IS no second season of Velma, what these companies are doing are splitting first seasons into two. They work on the first half of the first season to get it out, which gives them time to finish the second half, then call it a season 2. The time between Velma's First and Second season is impossibly fast, just like Inside Job. These shows are just made in halves.
The biggest problem is that Dan is intentionally written as a terrible person. You're meant to laugh at his absurd and extreme rage at frivolous things. Velma is written to be a quirky, relatable character. Unfortunately, she's also a self-insert of Mindy Kaling - making her a terrible person. One you're supposed to laugh at, one you're supposed to applaud.
How Velma got jerk characters wrong? That's easy; they made all the main and secondary characters horrible and forgot to give any one of them a singular likeable trait.
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I think Velma was greenlit for 2 seasons at the same time, but WB has never shied away from shelving projects, even if they are well received. Velma was horribly received, but they still finished and released season 2. No quality control.
In a sense, they already paid for it. With most other cases, many items were unpaid for. Pennywise, poundfoolish.
I read from somewhere that Velma was bought from animators as one season but then "cut" into two season so it would be cheaper.
They were probably thinking “It’s basically just adult Scooby-Doo, How can you fuck up Scooby-Doo? Bravo to Mindy Kailing for doing the impossible
@@valivali8104That makes sense considering how season 2 was announced less than a year after the first
WB has literally had whole movies and shows that have been DONE and READY TO SHIP and they've fucking cancelled and deleted the footage for them to prevent them from getting leaked or smth... But they can keep supporting dogshit like this?
You missed the perfect opportunity to title the video “Dan vs. Velma Dinkley”
Dan: VELMAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Dan
Vs
Velma
Sound effect: “Jinkies”
@@oliviaurquizu8897 Ha! I almost added that to mine.
That would have been perfection
So like a Death Battle episode
I DONT CARE WHO THE IRS SENDS I AM NOT PAYING MY TAXES!!!!!!!!
They'll send overweight social workers with guns, who have never faced real resistance before.
I DON'T CARE GIVE ME YOU TAX MONEY¡!!!¡!!!!!!!
wtf rainbow!!
Oh no, it's the tax dodger
“basketball is for communists.”
Funny how this show wanted to make white guys the antagonist but the one rich white male of the main cast had the most character development than the characters of color
They don't need to develop. They're already perfect, infallible beings.
Mindy clearly hates white men for their supposed privilege but she's got more privilege than 99% of all white men on the planet.
They bullied Fred so much of the show that they inadvertently made him sympathetic.
Fred is the GOAT of the show (which admittedly isn’t a high bar at all, but still.)
@@cosmicspacething3474 I love how the writers who clearly hate Fred gave him the closest thing to an actual character arc out of any of the characters in the entire show.
Dan vs villains be like:
“I’m mad at Dan because he got me arrested”
“I’m literally just a less scary version of terminator”
"B-Brains aren't pink!"
"They are when they mix with BLOOD."
"Th-that's interesting!"
Thats not even an exaggeration
Or worse than all of that
Elize’s parents
@@Hero0451they weren’t really villains toward Dan, they actually tried working with him before
There's also : I like Dan's life, so I'm gonna steal it. LMAO.
Difference is Dan is meant to be a jerk, it is literally on his T-shirt. Meanwhile, Velma was meant to be "sassy" not jerk.
My name problem with Nicole from class of 09, we get here tragic backstory of how her dad killed himself and how she was forced to move, and within the first few minutes shitting on a guy who bases his art of anime, sure he’s shown as a creep later on but with the context of this being a stranger, she just comes off as an asshole
I’ve tried multiple times to get into Class of 09, but I cannot stand the writing it’s like just like Velma
Well whatever she was trying to be she didn't even end up being Velma
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMarioIdk about the original class of 09, but in the re-up shes 100% meant to be a horrible person, and Jecka even points it out.
Exactly. Dan says "i'm a jerk. Deal with it". Velma says "i'm a good person. If you don't understand that, you are the jerk and i hope you die".
@@SonicXtreme99akaCreeperMario yeah she refers to the dad as second christmas in relation to his passing
The fact that the best written character in a show that makes fun of rich white men is a rich white man is a level of irony you can’t make up.
"Mindy Kaling's version of Velma"
Or as she's more accurately known, Mindy Kaling's self-insert trying to cosplay as Velma.
Dan: doesn't pay his taxes and would destroy the dmv
Velma: complains about the patriarchy and rich people
I mean the DMV deserves it ngl
Tbh both are understandable things to complain about, problem is that Velma isn’t very clever about it
A doer vs a yapper.
Velma is literally Rich people trying to make themselves seem cooler to poor people 😂
The difference between this velma and Dan vs is simple. One of them tries to be so hip and with the time that they're blind to reality, and the other has to deal with the relatable annoyamces of reality... most of the time.
Dan Vs is also funny, unlike Velma…
@@Superstar5_ for real
Nah that vs Canada episode is relatable as hell…or are you talking about the yeti
The funny thing is that the most grounded in reality annoyamce in Dan vs. series is in the episode which starts him hijacking the codes and almost starting nuclear war, becouse of some squirrels :D
The concept is just relatable.
You may not hijack nuclear launch code in order to exterminate some insignificant animal that you perceived slightly wronged you.
But god, I'm confident that you are lying if you say you have not FELT that way before, Sometimes when a bird shits on your shoulder, you wish you had a shotgun in city limits, sometimes when you step on a lego, for a half a second you want to strangle a 4yo.
The action isn't relatable (hopefully), but the feeling of INCREDIBLY exaggerated rage at 1 thing going slightly wrong is something most of humanity can relate to.
I find it hard however to relate to the feeling of being spiteful and judgemental of everyone around me based on their surface level demographic, or feeling the need to relate everything in my life to minor TV tropes that are arguable if they even existed, or if I just made them up to pretend I was clever and funny.
The problem with Velma is nobody can relate to Velma outside of maybe like 4 people who are privileged enough to be writers for a syndicated TV show of a money printing franchise and yet still bitter about literally everything around them.
Velma is that "friend" we all have that plays off their unfettered assholery as being a "joke", Dan is that friend that comes up with the most creative roasts you've heard and you can't help but be equal parts offended and impressed.
Velma never feels justified in here actions. She is always talking down to people. Comes off as condescending.
and yet the show what to paint her being in the rghit
Meanwhile, everyone acknowledges Dan sucks, whenever he’s in the right, it’s by sheer coincidence, and we love him for it
The sad thing about Velma is the fact that the concept of a more mature scooby doo story about a murder mystery from Velma’s perspective sounds like an interesting idea to watch,it’s ashame that it was wasted.
It wasn’t originally supposed to have anything to do with Scooby-Doo, higher-ups thought that Scooby coat would make it more popular...
Mystery Inc is more mature. So sad.
True
@@valivali8104
That popularity ended up being criticism and those higher-ups prolly took this line from a song to heart: "Polarize the people, controversy is the game. It don't matter if they hate you if they all say your name."
We already had that, it’s called Scooby Doo mystery inc.
I don't care who the irs sents i'm not paying taxes
Dan is the literal living definition of *“the balls of steel"* even The Joker is afraid of the IRS.
The realest thing a protagonist has ever said
Ah yes, the scene that was my first exposure to Dan vs
Literally what came to my head when I saw Dan,man he speaks for the people fr
Same @@pixelcat29
I will say it now and forever: an adult Scooby Doo show should be one with more supernatural and horror elements that genuinely scare people not...this
Imagine scooby doo having to solve a murder by a ghost at a abondoned manor
There is two mature Scooby Doo installments I can name. Mystery Incorporated. Both the official cartoon and the fanmade live action that has one episode right now on RUclips.
The closest thing we have of this is the live action movies and Mystery Inc
Alternatively, a Shaggy and Scooby stoner comedy if they wanted to take a comedic route
Their was also a episode of Supernatural were the bother get sent into a episode of Scooby doo where are you.
Velma has a history before Mindy got a hold of the character and ruined her. She was a dorky, lovable nerd that helps the gang solves mysteries. She was never harsh or rude, like Mindy's Velma.
"Mindy's Velma" is literally just Mindy, she says she identified with Velma the most and yet her self-insert is literally the opposite of Velma - ignorant, rude, bigoted, selfish and cruel.
Heck Mystery Inc was sarcastic and dry but never an ass
@@crazycoot647mystery inc was the best interpretation of Velma in my opinion
@@crazycoot647 Velma could be a jerk sometimes, but two things to note: when she was a jerk, she got karma, same as everyone else. And everyone was more jerk-ish than in other versions of the show, and this ended up having an in-universe explanation. So her sometimes being a jerk was PLOT RELEVANT.
Dan is the best likable asshole.
I think its because most of the time he's just apathetic and annoyed rather than being an actual jerk.
It's only when someone actually does something to him that he decides to be vindictive
@@rushalias8511 his relationship with Hortense was peak proof of that hes a sensitive person with particular tastes and other people just seem to boorishly get in his way until something crosses the line.
Yup and he's the best like able jerk we all deserve
At least, compared to Mindy Kailing's version of Velma. It is indeed safe to say Dan wins this.
He's also relatable. We all have those moments or days where anything can set us off. Like you run into that person you hate, or you wake up angry.
Most "jerk" characters have nice sides, somewhere *deep* down. Like secretly caring about the other characters or aren't jerks to certain people. Anti-velma is a villain protagonist.
So it "Jerk with a Heart of Gold"? Also on TV Tropes page of this trope there a image of Dan, being nice to kitten, which example trope
A lot of bad things happen to Dans car
Yeah. A lot of the time, his car getting damaged, destroyed, or dirtied leads to him wanting revenge.
I honestly don't blame him? Usually when he isn't going after revenge, he just minds his own business like a normal person until someone or something has happened to ruined his day. He's a victim in most episodes.
They don’t hate Dan. They hate Dan’s car
dans car is the only one character in fiction who jas suffered almost as much as kevins car
Dude my car is my *baby* I absolutely understand it
They way I've always seen it is that it's very annoying when a show writes a unlikable character, then gets all self righteous and acts like they're never wrong.
The show constantly treats Dan like the prick he is, showing that he makes bad choices, and some of the bad things that happen to him are his fault.
Velma on the other hand is an awful, unlikable person that the show acts like she's horribly mistreated and doesn't deserve to be in the circumstances that she's in, when in reality she reaps what she sows.
Took the words right out of my keyboard
Funnily enough, Dan actually understands that he could be wrong or the bad guy. He just doesn't care, like when he tried to blow up the pound for letting the dogs bark all night.
And then you have Dan Vs Fast Food, where he's protesting a restaurant that ignored his request prepare his food according to his allergies, being lactose intolerant. Because of them, he was in intense pain all night long, curled in a ball on the lawn. This is actually a completely reasonable thing, and all he wanted was a refund, but he was denied, so he was forced to get more creative (he's too unemployed for a lawyer). In that episode, you could say he was the good guy.
Even though Dan can be a bad person, he loves his cat. Velma seems like the type of person that would kick a cat. That's why Dan is more likeable.
Average Cat lover W
@LookiePookDaBoi Average pet lover in general W
Dan is a lovable jerk with a softer side and all of his revenge plans are for a purpose.
Velma here is a jerk for no reason other than thinking she’s smarter than everyone else
i think the difrents is Dan and negative qultys are treated as negative qualities
but with Velma she is supposed to be in the "rghit" especially her bigotry.
It kind of reminds me of how certain episodes of arthur treat characters like francine like they're in the right
Whenever Dan is wrong the show makes it known he’s wrong.
Whenever Velma is wrong the show makes you think she’s right.
The drawn together pfp is killing me
Is it wrong that I don’t think Dan is a terrible person? Just…petty.
Dan showed a few times he still has humanity. Hell, he's managed to be in relationships but outside factors he gets obsessed with always ruin them. 😂
@@SuperCosmicMutantSquid exactly. He’s got more humanity than Velma
Not really. He is a bad person and petty at the same time but which one is he more of is up to the individual.
@@m.dekustextingstories I suppose that’s true
YES! Some love 4 Dan Vs. !!! Also it's *Mindy not Velma
Yes my brother
By the way Dan is awesome (can't stress that enough), he's a character that has the potential to be a really good person... but he'd rather try to nuke squirrels 😂
Also season 2 of Velma is the only time we root for Scrappy Doo.
I think that alone proves its a bad show. Forget all the analysis videos "This show makes you root for Scrappy Doo" is all you need to say.
I'm gonna be honest, the "I AM ON A SOAPBOX" got a smirk out of me, but that's about it.
Glad I am not the only one was not expecting that punchline so it got me
agreed lol
2:35 They actually have Elise bring up how Dan is much better on TV than as a friend in the episode Dan vs Reality TV.
Dan is supposed to be petty and unreasonable but somehow he's better because it's made clear that Dan is extra but Velma is portrayed as morally superior
also dan is very blunt and honest he owns up to his bad behavior and makes it a point he doesn't care
When I saw this video 2:32 was the exact moment I imagined which I feel made Dan Vs. such a fun show to watch. Would Dan get revenge on a businessman who cut him off in traffic by destroying his house and entire business or just throwing a brick through his window after going to the ends of the earth to create the heaviest brick? Who knows, but both are on brand.
U have to make jerk character either reactionary or there has to be a worse force then the jerk best example Rick from Rick & morty
You can also go the Joker route and just have them be balls-to-the-wall insane and fun to watch for the spectacle.
@@rolandswift4311 exactly Dan fits this as well
Rick is a good example but I think Grunkle Stan does it better
And master shake
It's funny considering the contrast between Rick's crimes and Rick Prime's crimes
The worst thing about Velma is that Close enough was shafted in favor of it. Like, getting canceled is one thing, could happen to anyone, but getting canceled for this garbage... WB really twisted the knife is their wound, and tossed chlorine into it
0:33 ok but this one got me- I actually think they managed to make a funny joke
As much as I hate the show, I got to agree
Mr Mumbles is actually a female cat. The joke is that Dan didn't realize the obvious before naming her.
Dan vs. Is one of the most goated shows of all time
This show made it so we couldn't get coyote versus acme
This show ran so that Coyote vs Acme couldn’t walk.
Another reason to hate Velma.
To be clear it was known that Velma was getting a season two before the final episode, and Coyote vs Acme wasn't released because of taxes
@@leoluster5424 fuck the taxes!
I'm still waiting for the Amazing World of Gumball movie 😢
Small correction: Mr. Mumbles is a female cat, Dan just never bothered to check.
Thank you for this I thought I was just thinking about it wrong
@@wizard-zb4lp I think it was Dan vs The Bank? IIRC the homeless guy Dan recruited brings up that Mr. Mumbles is female and Dan is confused by it.
@@Duothimir Dan Vs Art
Don't you find it ironic how the one character that was designed to be made fun of (fred), ended up having character development to make him a better person.
The one character that become a better person, was the one they designed to be made fun of.
That means the one good person in that show, was the writers most hated character.
In the writers delusion, they made Fred end up becoming a good character.
What made Dan vs so funny is that the show itself isn't targeting anyone in real life in an attempt to humiliate them. Velma is just vile because none of the point make sense as commentary, especially when you can easily call out Velma for her rude behavior and hypocrisy yet the show rewards her.
Even if Dan is right in his theories the show constantly shows us why no one believes him and isn't above humiliating HIM when he takes things too far. The episode where Chris and Elise trick him so they can finally get away from him is a prime example of this as they used his parinoia against him to finally relax. There's also the guy who stole Dan's identity only to get his revenge and reveal how crazy Dan is, that Dan would rather be IN JAIL because he doesn't have to be around telemarketers than to realize how fucked his situation is and Fake Dan still won. 😂
Dan vs is just funny in how absurd it is. Velma is just miserable because it actually believes the crap it's trying to sell.
Dan Vs. is fucking awesome
The goat Dan my gosh that show u don’t enjoy that this show until ur older like this was made for teenagers and adults
I think another huge aspect that is really lost on Velma is that Dan is damned loser, and is portrayed as such. He is shown as miserable, hated, and dangerous, meanwhile the show expects that we see Velma as someone who is maybe a little abrasive because she "tells it how it is" and can sometimes be rude -- since you can't have Kaling's character be a bad person, they have to be misunderstood smart people
It isn't just that Velma is a jerk, but its that the narrative seeing her awful behavior as a good thing, rallying behind her like she's cool for being a jerk. It reminds me of bullies at school who do dumb immoral shit and everyone is egging them on for the funnies.
You did touch on this but it can’t be stressed enough that Dan GETS HELD ACCOUNTABLE AND GETS KARMA FOR HIS ACTIONS WHEN HE DOES SOMETHING TOO FAR! Plus even tho people help Dan, no one defends Dan’s attitude and actions. Chris most of time is very critical of Dan’s over the top actions even tho he goes along with it.
The soup box "joke" was at least almost funny
Does anyone else wish Dan would go against impostor Velma? The thumbnail made me think of that. I wonder what schemes he would use. Also, I think this time Chris would have nothing to object. Maybe he would criticize the schemes, but certainly not the goal of defeating Velma.
Absolutely agreed. I want it.
8:16 ewwwww Nux, Blehhhhhhhhhhh.
Sorry I just hate discusting people like Nux, seriously he ruined another Vtuber's (Taiga) life, and refuses to apologize properly, not to mension the Shaddman mess. Point being, Nux is a big jerk, who is somewhere between Dan and Velma. Granted they are basically on opposite ends of the spectrum, but still.
12:41 and yet somehow they made Fred the most likable character in the show
0:46 its how all animated shows work. They are basically guaranteed two seasons.
The funniest line from Dan Vs. in my option is the line "I don't care who the IRS sends I am not paying taxes."
You forgot to mention the most important part of the second season of Velma that almost improved it. The time Velma was unalived by scrappy.
Money, thats why they do it.
More hate equals more attention, meaning more money.
granted velma got jack and all cause everyone just got there hatewatch fix via youtube
It's bc she was never written to be a jerk in the first place. The writers think she's absolutely right.
Something I’ve noticed from watching critiques of bad comedies is that the writers accidentally focus on the antagonist so much they become the only likeable character to the audience or at least the one with the most depth
the difference is Dan usually has a reason before going off on someone making it justifiable, that Velma just does it just to do it, she looks like the "just look at me and that's enough reason" type
...DID HE JUST FOR REAL SHOUT OUT NUX TAKU?!
"DAN VS" is one of the best shows
I forgot how good Dan Vs is! Thank you for that
LETS GO MORE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT DAN VS!!!
Dan vs is a really good damn show
Arguably the best show with an "evil" main character is Breaking Bad. Walter White isnt excused for his actions and eveything bad he does comes back to bit him, at the same time its still very entertaining to watch him desolve into madness.
Dan is a jerk to people who wrong him. In some cases he actually is a victim. Unlike Velma who acts like one Dan at some points in the show is justified in his bad behavior (ex. When he went to the dentist)
Dan Vs is actually one of my favorite shows of all time. I'm sad more people don't talk about it.
watching Velma either feels like a lobotomy or makes you sad you dont watch the other 20 scooby doo series
Velma feels like it was made with contempt for the source material and so Mindy Kayling can spout her own political beliefs.
Dan Vs. is funny because his acts of revenge are cartoonishly exaggerated and he always waits for someone to "wrong" him before taking action. He serves as a vehicle for those who have felt wronged to vicariously enjoy watching Dan get revenge on those he feels wronged by.
Where Velma is just selfish, egotisical, petty, cruel, vindictive and self-serving for no reason. That's just the way she is.
velma: lol white men am i right? XD
dan: i am declaring war on an entire country
Important note about scooby doo projects. The season two comes with the first season for the most part. You will almost always get 2 season at least of any scooby doo show these days and anything above that needs to be greenlit separately.
I knew which scene you were referring to when you mentioned the one funny thing in Velma
And frankly, when it played, it chuckled too
Master shake from aqua teen hunger force is the best way to write a jerk character. Because he got whats coming to him, and he was to dumb or prideful to realize when he got got 😂
Since you brought up Nux Taku, I'd like to let you know that he's a terrible person who's ruined someone else's livelihood and irreparably damaged their reputation, with false allegations, seemingly without remorse. I'd advise you to look into the current situation.
Are you referring to the femboy vtuber?
@@rorrim0 the JEW
11:44 my reaction to scrappy
Not only did i learn Velma is supposed to be a murder mystery but i actually learned about a good show. Thanks for the video i will give Dan a watch.
Velma: how to effectively ruin a childhood
Will I think Velma already had the season 2.
I also love Dan Vs show XD and the funny part is that I discovered the show because it was after My Little Pony v:
"I don't who the IRS send, I'm not paying taxes"
-Dan
Velma is constantly talking about how rich people, white people, men and religious people are all bad, meanwhile Mindy kailing is an extremely privileged woman
My page reloaded before I could click on the video but as soon as I saw Dan I knew I had to find this
"I don't care who the IRS is I'm not paying taxes!"
-Dan
I swear Dan is one of the most relatable characters from fiction
nux be like we found out we have adhd
I want to see someone do a drinking game while watching Velma where you take a sip every time someone makes a racial joke. You’d be drunk as hell
No, you’d die of alcohol poisoning xD
Dr Robotnik is a amazing character and hes a mean guy so i understand ya point
Yeah but he has shown to be nice some times he helped Sonic in Frontiers and even saved Sonic in Lost world.
@@Chillin-jg8vg indeed 🗿
I complained on tiktok that when watching the trailer, every second of it was an embarrassing mess.
No one even believed me and think I was complaining of a cartoon show.
But you, you understand that I’m not alone on this. So thank you for making this video.
Velma is a disappointed mess of a show.
Another thing about the soft side of Dan, in vs. Highschool Renunion, Chris got an invitation to highschool renunion and Dan got a spite on it. When Dan has finally sabotage the renunion, everyone praises him for it. So, the invitation was meant for Dan, rather than Chris
Love to see Dan Vs getting some love
We WERE gonna get a RWBY Scooby Doo crossover. But Velma 2 was “MORE NEEDED”
I remember an episode where a fast food manager got his order wrong. Rooted for him throughout that one.
i don't think Dan only doing stuff when provoked matters that much for making him more likeable. Because i've been antagonzied plenty of times in my life. And nobody would give a shit, if what you did had a reason or not. Granted, i didnt have many good qualities back then either. Or appear to havy any
Correction: Dan isn’t lazy, he just puts all his effort into stupid things
This video made me want to watch the show Dan VS.
Thank you.
Completely unrelated to the video, but the fact that velma got a second season while so many good shows/anime only get one season makes me so sad.
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Bro they ain’t losing money with Velma if people keep hate watching the show 🙄
the "punch it fred" made me smile
there IS no second season of Velma, what these companies are doing are splitting first seasons into two. They work on the first half of the first season to get it out, which gives them time to finish the second half, then call it a season 2.
The time between Velma's First and Second season is impossibly fast, just like Inside Job. These shows are just made in halves.
The biggest problem is that Dan is intentionally written as a terrible person. You're meant to laugh at his absurd and extreme rage at frivolous things.
Velma is written to be a quirky, relatable character. Unfortunately, she's also a self-insert of Mindy Kaling - making her a terrible person.
One you're supposed to laugh at, one you're supposed to applaud.
Leaving this comment to help get this video out into the algorithm.
I really did enjoy the video by the way.
Dan and his antics are fucking hilarious to watch mindy....i mean Velma has none legitimately nothing going for her
A Nux Taku shout out?
Yeah. Not the best thing to do
How Velma got jerk characters wrong? That's easy; they made all the main and secondary characters horrible and forgot to give any one of them a singular likeable trait.
Velma got EVERYTHING about itself wrong.
Okay the punch it fred was actually funny