Running the charging handle is stupid
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- JOIN this channel to get access to perks:
/ @tacticalresponsecrew
Follow us on TicTok: @tactical_response_
My AMAZON Store: www.amazon.com/shop/jamesyeager
TRAINING: www.Tacticalresponse.com
PATREON: / jamesyeager
PLEASE support my SPONSORS!
www.defiantmunitions.com/ for 10% off COUPON: YEAGER24
accu-tac.com/ Use Coupon Code: “TACTICALRESPONSE20” for 20% off at checkout.
www.nsrtactical.com
www.FirearmsDepot.com
www.HolsterSmith.com
www.KnifeKits.com
www.MidwestIndustriesinc.com for 10% off COUPON: YEAGERBOMB1775
www.PowerTac.com Code: YEAGER for 30% off!
www.XSsights.com COUPON: YEAGER2020 for 10%
www.valhallatactical.com/?aff=15 Free Shipping when using this link.
www.originalsoegear.com/ Add "Tactical Response" to comments of order for no discount but possible priority.
I miss James.
Under stress and adrenaline, in the dark, inside a smokey environment, with compromised eyes +/- eye pro, etc etc etc - You will not know if your gun is empty or not. Attempting to "Diagnose" any problems wastes WAY more time than running the handle/slide. This method gets the gun reloaded, guaranteed, every gun, every situation, every environment, Every Time. 🏴☠️
Great point!
What he said
2 counter points, though:
If there's an immediate threat that needs serviced when your rifle goes down, transition to your pistol.
We spend most our time in well lit environments and it is much faster to look at your bolt and diagnose than to go into immediate action
It's good to know both methods where shooting position will dictate which is easier at the time. However I'm just not a fan of trying to dumb it down to try and keep it maximum simple when there is always going to be weapons handling that requires unique manipulation.
90% of the people that are arguing about this have no idea what OODA LOOP even is. Well done Joey.
90% of the people talking about OODA loop don’t understand what it is either.
But, you were wasting a precious round of ammo :-)
I was in the Marine Corps infantry and a former law enforcement officer and in the personal security industry. I took fighting pistol back in 2006 not understanding running the slide or charging handle at first when reloading. After sitting through the lecture and spending two days using the technique, I had a better understanding of why to have one procedure to take care of multiple problems. People shouldn't be as worried about that so-called "one precious round". You're apparently in a gunfight just get the gun back up and running without having to overthink. Just go to the class and learn the procedure if it works for you great if it doesn't leave it in the toolbox.
I was in the Army, a truck driver. In all the weapons training taught to me by my past NCO's with many of them being ex infantry and the training I taught as a NCO we never ran the charging handle on a M16. We were taught to use the bolt release and if there is problem then do the immediate action. I get what he is trying to say but to me and 12 years of service never did it or saw anyone else doing it.
You actually don't see what he actually said not trying to say because of institutional inbreeding from the Army which is what I received in the Marine Corps infantry. Have an open mind and take the class and you will have a understanding of why James came up with the training philosophy at tactical response.
@@tcj1968 I see what he is trying to say. Run the charging handle just encase because it might mitigate a potential problem. So are we supposed to run the slide on a pistol also after reloading? Not my thing, and I will stick to what has been working for me since I was a young PFC in the Army.
James taught people for the fight, not competition-good job!
I am forever calling it - and other things “the little doober”. 😂
The fastest way is to not run the rifle dry. Jeff taught me that
Its called the
Charging Handle
Makes absolute sense! I rack the slide on my pistol every time I reload so only makes sense to rack the charging handle
I’d be interested in seeing a video on the items in the curriculum you’ve changed over time!
Reload when you need to, or have to. Inducing a potential malfunction when you don't have to, if round in chamber? Don't care, your an American do what you want. On that note, love for you guys, miss james.❤ your school is spot on.
I use the bolt catch paddle unless there's a failure. I look at the chamber if there is a failure to fire and assess while running my pistol. This was how I was taught and so far it has made sense.
And if it's dark? Or if your ass just got a full load of Saber Red?
@@Dangerous_Nerd CH is a fall-back if the above mentioned doesn't bring the rifle back up. I usually only run the CH to chamber my rifle before whatever happens.
Yes. Eugene Stoner may had it right by setting it up the way he did. Use the stupid yet amazing paddle unless in weird conditions, weird ammo, etc. If it don't work - then charge it.
@@welderdude1 Disagreement is cool, but that extra brain power of problem diagnosis is exactly what Joey is arguing against. "Tap-Rack," whether with a magazine in hand or not, fixes everything but a double feed. Problem-Ubiquetous Solution-Back in the fight.
@@Dangerous_Nerd the bolt catch is way faster. I do a lot of 2 gun open stuff.
I had a sit and think, as well as a test with my rifle. would it be a wise choice to hit the bolt release on every load before you run the charger?
On the off chance you don't pull the trigger and interrupt the bolt release on the empty chamber, necessitating the charging handle, then the bolt release makes the charging handle inert, meaning you have to end up using the release anyway. this of course is on a full empty gun.
Reload would then be, drop mag, insert mag with a tap, pull mag, hit the release and then run the charger. Result would be the same, but with that one issue( charger/ bolt release interference) being cut out.
I've always been too poor for the class, but use the videos to get some kind of idea what I'm doing, so this is just an honest question/ suggestion.
IMO, the time it takes to run the charging handle isnt as important so long as you keep your eyes down range on target. you can speedload, or run the CH, or hit the release, none of that matters as long as you do all three swiftly and keep your eyes down range.....thats just my opinion
Clint Smith says hit the button on the side as a recall, man those shakes dicey reload fumbles could be cleaned up but kudos posting this. authentic.
It's the same goons that whine about racking the pistol slide on a reload. If you don't like it, don't do it. Take a class, learn some stuff and implement what works for you.
Good stuff man keep it up! Hope to see you guys soon.
First time seeing COC merch on a guntuber. Good form, chap.
I'm glad someone appreciates it 🤘
Correction: speed reload then the correct way.
Insert magazine, run the charging handle, the gun is loaded. Why complicate this, change a mag, run the charging handle, the gun is loaded. If you have a malfunction, what do you do first? tap....RACK if you condition yourself to do all of this 1 way, you never get confused.
I agree.
Good video Joey
Hicks law
What I have loved about the simplicity of this method is that it works universally. With any handgun I can reload it by inserting the mag and racking the slide. You can hand me any new gun and it works every time. I do not have to learn where the button is or how to press it or is it difficult to press. I just insert and rack. It is great.
That's honestly why they teach this technique. They have such large class sizes they have to have a curriculum that works for all students as opposed to being able to give 1:1 attention to a specific student with a different manual of arms.
Double edge sword when it comes to techniques. "This is new and different, therefore it is automatically better" can be just as silly as "This is how we've always done it"
I remember when 3-point slings were all the rage early in the GWOT, so our unit issued them to everyone and brought in an "expert" (sales rep from the company that was selling them to us) to show us how to use it. Two months into thr deployment everyone was just using them like 2 point slings.
agreed
Wouldn’t running the charging handle introduce more chance for failure to feed by possibly riding the charging handle. I try to never ride the charging handle home but I’ve done it before and I’ve seen lots of other people doing it. Bolt release has zero chances of that happening. Now I can be convinced that the extra 1/8” the bolt comes back into the buffer spring make it x% more reliable of a reload but probably would want to see hard data to change my mind. Control guns, ran both ways,Numbers of failures. If that already exists I would love to see it.
Just waiting for somebody in the comments to be like... Actually.. actually.. actually😅
THIS IS THE WAY
Great stuff.
Still waiting to see the "speed" reload. Is it cause you said speed while reloading?
Any of these naysayers have videos on their channel? Any of them have a training company that’s developed their curriculum for decades? Any of them taken the amount of combined training that was taken by all involved who created and shaped this curriculum? Any of them taken the this particular class? My guess is no.
👏👏👏 miss you guys! I'm not going to make it this summer. I got a new baby on the way, but hopefully, I will make it to alumni next year! 🤘🤙✌️
The guys worrying about racking out a live round are the same ones who will only have 3 spare mags on a plate carrier for an hours long firefight. For me, I’m not walking out the door with fewer than 12 mags.
You realize the scenario your imaging is incredibly unlikely. This isn’t Afghanistan, this idea of being in a standup firefight for hours is ludicrous .
@@ViktoriousDeaddon’t ruin the LARP.
Well said.
Good philosophy.
The people who don't use the charging handle are the ones that don't understand that it's building good habits because if you have to clear a malfunction, you have to use the charging handle. If you have to reload, you use the charging handle. It's a repetitive motion that's consistent and remedial
I think a prescribed universal solution is really stupid. Learn how to, and get good at, using the charging handle, removing and replacing the magazine, using the bolt catch, all of it,
and get good at identifying the condition of your weapon.
You can do a little thinking. It really, really does not take that long. I can tell from the feel of the trigger and the feel of the mass, and the sound, whether my AR is locked back or bolt forward.
@superfamilyallosauridae6505 Right, I understand that. But what you fail to understand is that repetitive motions are what keep you alive because you default back to them when you're under duress.
@@printingwithpeek4897 You should not create one single repetitive motion to deal with any time the gun goes down. It is no more difficult to handle the situation correctly, and to learn all of the individual repetitive motions (what you are actually doing).
Furthermore, on its face the whole thing makes no sense. He's not treating this like it's for when the gun goes down, he's just charging the rifle for no reason.
If your gun has stopped firing, and you look in the ejection port (which does NOT take long), you'll know the condition of the weapon. Be it an obvious malfunction, bolt to the rear empty, failure to fire, whatever.
You can use charging handle in place of bolt release, but you're not really getting anything out of doing that.
If the rifle has fired every time you asked, and the bolt is forward, you know there is a round in the chamber, especially if you swap mags and can determine there were remaining rounds in the previous mag.
While, yes, it's possible it short stroked or whatever, if you're going to make that assumption NOW you may as well turn the gas off on your rifle and charge it every time you fire like it's a British civilian bolt action AR.
This whole thing is ridiculous range theatrics.
If you have a malfunction and just mindlessly run the charging handle you very easily could make it worse. This has happened to me before when I would "tap rack bang" to clear a malfunction and as a result induced a gnarly double feed. No matter how much we attempt to dumb everything down to a one size fits all solution there are always going to be instances that force you to use your brain. As such, i think its better to just learn how to make decisions under stress instead of trying to eliminate the decision making process altogether.
If instead of "tap rack bang" I had simply took .001 second to LOOK I would've seen that I need to drop the mag before racking. But, I tried the method James always taught(James had videos where he said "looking at it isn't going to fix it", so I've conditioned myself to just automatically tap rack bang)and it fucked me. Luckily there were no real consequences for that fuck up but it definitely made me reconsider this type of cookie cutter solution.
Furthermore, I've watched a lot of videos with guys who have been in the shit and I've talked to quite a few of them. i've never met one who had to do any kind of speed reload with a rifle. You obviously want to reload as fast as reasonably possible ALWAYS but every dude I've talked to who had been there and done that said they always had time to get behind cover before reloading. Will that always be the case? Will that be the case if for some reason I need to reload a rifle in a gun fight? I have no idea. I'll most likely never need this skill for anything other than cardboard targets. If I do I'm gonna take my chances and just reload normally.
Preach it Brother Joseph ... MMMhmMMM Getting me all foot-tappin' and in the Spirit. (smell of banjos and honeysuckle)
The issue is that literally no other school teaches this for a reason. For the record I've trained with former law enforcement, Marines, Delta Force, Green Berets and competition shooters. None of them advocate running the charging handle on a reload.
It's not just a speed issue. It's an efficiency issue. There's just no reason to do it. The benefit is dubious at best. Whatever gets you in the fight sooner and keeps you in it longer is the answer.
On an AR specifically the charging handle is not meant to be used that way and can bend or break.
Another reason to run the charging handle as opposed to hit the boat release is that it takes away the need for a press check because, you always know you’re gonna is loaded when you wreck the slide.
Or… I’ll just ignore this proprietary pseudo-neurology nonsense and just continue to reload the way literally everyone else teaches it. 😂
Is dude an instructor??? Wow, absolutely horrible
Dude do be an instructor
Gay!!!!
unnecessary move!. Not only waste of time, waste of one round AND you loose sight (change head position). There is NOTHING good about it......if your riffle jams....use it.....otherwise NO, NO and NO.... AND you probably are a sling charger with hand guns (never the slide release) and you must be a press checker...... There is a side of the earth where the light shines and the other is dark.......
@@talega1 🤢