I can definitely say, I did not expect to see these 2 together! And this is a awesome video, love the different point of videos with a lot of fun laughs! Good stuff
Awesome chemistry at work there; educational & entertaining! Would love to have the opportunity to take one of your classes John. Should have stopped making excuses and jumped on it years ago. Unfortunately your so popular now I can't find a spot.. Thanks for all you do bud, stay the course!
What made this so enjoyable was the genuine friendship displayed. James Yeager and John Lovell are both honest and generous men. So many lessons here to be learned and some gun stuff too. Thank you gentlemen. James Vogel/Tucson.
@@TacticalResponseCrew whether i agree with you or not, I respect what you're doing. It's hard for a man to walk the path he talks, and you're out here doing it to the best of your ability. Thanks for being you, man.
I love how the wrong counter is just arbitrarily tallying up even when they’re still in the middle of a conversation and neither of them have made a point. Hilarious!😂😂😂
I love John’s advice on raising kids. I’ve always said that a parent’s job is not to raise children but to raise adults. I’m sure both men are great fathers.
Talking to my wife about our daughter, "Who's going to teach her about healthy relationships? 'The Bachelor?' 'Tinder?' 'Hollywood?' Who's going to teach her about money? Capital One? She's going to learn these things and she's going to take on a set of values about right and wrong. It's far better she gets those from those of us who love her."
Yeager: Wrong. At one time people argued RDS's were a fad on rifles. Now where are we today? RDS's haven't evolved to a point that they're practical on pistols - yet. We're close. The ACRO was a step in the right direction and the Holosun HE509T is another step in the right direction. Once pistol RDS's are small enough with a good field of view, enclosed so elements aren't a factor (like the ACRO And 509T) and battery life is measured in years vs. hours or months, they will become a standard. Just like iron sights are back-ups now on rifles and not generally considered primary sights, the same will become true of RDS's on handguns. John is 100% right, he's teaching the future.
MAC - I was running red dots on rifles BEFORE RUclips or Military Arms Channel existed. I NEVER said not to use Dots Sights on rifles. (I only said EOTech's were shit 10 years before the rest of the world figured it out.) As far as pistols I have trained 83,000 people and have had over 50 in gunfights. They ALL won without a dot sight. Dots have their place but people buy them like they did lasers 10 years ago...like it will make them a better shooter. It will NOT.
@@TacticalResponseCrew I agree that dots are like lasers for new shooters many times. However, dots have a place on a gun someone knows how to use. Lasers? I wouldn't be caught dead with a laser on a carry pistol. :D
@@TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce I have a pistol on now with a RDS. I still enjoy open sights but I believe there is a clear advantage to using a RDS. I also believe they are the future. In another 10 years most every carry gun in common use will have a RDS on it. I'll bet my winning lottery ticket on it.
This was a fun video, thanks guys. If I had to pick one instructor, I would pick.... ummm.... Voda Consulting. I think both of you could learn a few things if you engaged with him.
What sucks the most about this video is I have never watched it because I thought it was just going to be bashing John. But now after the passing of James, I learned that this video was not some video full of hate. I wish I would have watched it sooner.
All that says is James was willing to see if John could teach him something he did not know. As a student of an art, you are always looking to better yourself.
GREAT vid - both of you. I am in my 42 your of full-time preaching and family counseling. I'm also a life-long shooter, reloader and serious about self-defense. I've had two family members murdered (between 1964 and 1995) and two other family member who were in gunfights and won. The unarmed family members died, he armed family members lived. I love our banter, but deeply respect your teachings - both of you - and I pray you continue your training. God bless you both!
You can watch vids while you're driving to work and not hit anything? Does it follow, that you can drive & shoot in the dark, on your way back from work and still not hit anything? Just asking. :(
With all the crap going on out there, I really needed this. BUT, we need a part 2 of things that James Yeager is WRONG about. Turn about, fair play!?!? Seriously, are these guys EVER really wrong? I really MUST get training. These are the guys.
I’ve been following James for a long time. Learned about John when James had him on a video. You two are by far my favorite gun channels on RUclips. I’ve met James twice, he’s a super nice guy, still waiting to meet John. Thanks to you both for such awesome content.
This was an awesome concept and I dig it. I'd love to see other channels adopt this. Promotes the community with constructive disagreement. Keep it comin.
I found it interesting that John bases responses with what HE can do (with 20yrs almost daily training) and Yeager bases perspectives on what his students can realistically learn and use.
Yeager has a douchebag way of assuming he is the only guy who knows what he is doing its annoying i love larry vickers bc he doesnt treat ppl like peasants like yeager does
The only two people who've ever combined to deliver material entertaining and useful enough to make me watch a full 50+ minute video on RUclips. Kudos, guys - wishing you both continued success in your very worthy endeavors!
It’s so refreshing to see two highly respected, highly trained, and highly capable alphas such as this yet who have a great sense of humor and able to not take themselves so seriously that they can’t make fun of themselves AND are not only open about their faith but profess to desire to go deeper. A rarity in this field that the world needs more of...especially right now.
No, no, that's where you're wrong... It's "float like a Butterfield, sting like a tree". 😂 Thanks to In Living Color, I'll NEVER get that out of my head!
I have watched hundreds of hours of 2A youtube content and have never felt as inspired to improve myself in all aspects of life as I am RIGHT NOW. And I whole heartedly believe James drew the conversation that sparked that. And I’ve never heard of him before today. I read he passed on somewhat recently and already can tell that was a huge loss for the 2A community and the world in general. Thanks for the content, fellas. God bless.
For those of you who haven’t trained with Tactical Response, the movement during the draw will make all the sense in the world once you take Fighting Pistol. 100% This is the video WE all NEEDED.
Based on my extensive training I've found that diving to the prone position while firing at a bad guy allows me to smoke him first almost every time. It's taken me hours of practice and in real firefights in Call of Duty Modern Warfare to perfect this technique. It does require the appropriate perk to do this though, otherwise you will either have to fire before going prone or fire after having gone prone. But if you want to smoke check fools, this is the way. I brought this up at a Warrior Poet training class and the noobs laughed at me.
If it will make 100% sense when they explain it in the class, then someone should just explain it. Then, I would think we can all know and be cool together. But, I get it, you can only know if you took the class. It's impossible to use the English language to convey the idea, unless you take the class.
Dynamic takeoff from the X, coupled with simultaneous draw and shoot seems to be the red pill almost nobody in the self defense community will buck up and swallow. Yet a single afternoon of properly structured, context-correct Force-on-Force drills make it obvious to just about anyone as to why it's an essential gunfighting skill. Or at least anyone who doesn't cling to square range prejudices. SMH.
I like how the two of you can sit down and completely disagree, without yelling or insulting each other. you're both giving people your ideas/opinions and letting the people make up their minds. Great video.
John is still wrong about home defense silencers. While auditory exclusion exists, it takes a huge adrenaline dump to activate. Which takes time and fear, and you can either casually investigate a weird noise or respond to a kicked door fast, one of those factors is usually missing. Communication with your family, and later police, is still more important than making the 2nd attacker afraid. It's not as bullshit as just racking your shotgun, but still. Kill the 2nd home invader before he located your position and what is going on instead of scaring him into a position of cover.
@@presidentmerkinmuffley6769 as James usually points out "did you train with it?" Is the best test. If we train, we learn on the errors of the men/women to our left and right, as well our own folly. When that guy even attempts to shoot, he will start to learn ))
i remember the first video you guys did together years ago and james kept telling john he needs to start a youtube channel... well that has turned into a more than just a channel now haha. love both these guys
Soooo fun. Thanks for having me on James. We’ve got videos with you coming out soon. 100 things James is wrong about
101..dalmations.
Im pretty sure the internet was invented only for this moment lol
Humbled and Blessed to say I’ve trained with these two gentlemen!
I can definitely say, I did not expect to see these 2 together! And this is a awesome video, love the different point of videos with a lot of fun laughs! Good stuff
Awesome chemistry at work there; educational & entertaining! Would love to have the opportunity to take one of your classes John. Should have stopped making excuses and jumped on it years ago. Unfortunately your so popular now I can't find a spot.. Thanks for all you do bud, stay the course!
I wish these two men knew just how much they mean to us random, faceless Patriots, Fathers, Husbands and above all, lovers of Christ.
Yep. Like 3rd and 4th hour professors at the university of things important.
Thank you very much.
Seriously!!!
Absolutely. The best.
They are a special blessing
If John is wrong I don’t want to be right
HUZZAH!!
You're wrong! lol
Hey, this ain't GarandThumb's channel!
Ain't that the truth
😆😆😆😆😆
What changes if you have nods on? “You can see in the dark”! 😂🤣😂🤣.
Your comment is a piece ofśhï+ if you dont add the timestamp
@@HitlerlandBoi ouch calm down 😂
@@sapperjackson7132 "time is money" - Dan Pena.
@@HitlerlandBoi patience is a virtue ~ABC network
@@HitlerlandBoi 10:37
I agree
😂
agreed 😂
These two working together like yen an yang🤣
Both are making great points. I love it! Neither are wrong. Im glad I can take things from both and do what works for me
What made this so enjoyable was the genuine friendship displayed. James Yeager and John Lovell are both honest and generous men. So many lessons here to be learned and some gun stuff too. Thank you gentlemen. James Vogel/Tucson.
Thanks dude.
@@TacticalResponseCrew I was a bit skeptical about the video because John in my man-crush but I am glad I watched. I am subscribed to you both now.
@@TacticalResponseCrew whether i agree with you or not, I respect what you're doing.
It's hard for a man to walk the path he talks, and you're out here doing it to the best of your ability. Thanks for being you, man.
Collaborations like this give me hope for America
Hope in a nation who’s election was stolen with zero repercussions? Don’t do that, hope in your fellow man, yes. Hope in a tyrannical government, no.
Until the politicians come back to destruction(work)on monday and screw my optimism...
I love how the wrong counter is just arbitrarily tallying up even when they’re still in the middle of a conversation and neither of them have made a point. Hilarious!😂😂😂
For some reason this jogged something in my memory from 20+ years ago: "Shoot and move: we don't do both and we don't do none"
Wow, yes but wow
John: I have better hair.
James: you are wrong...
This was awesome! Thank you both
🤣
God bless 🙏
24:56
"I can't even read my own writing..."
"I'm just proud you were able to write."
Like two brothers bickering back and forth, love it
“What can you do?”
“I can draw a line around stuff”
Man Yeager was hilarious throughout this whole video, i loved it.
I love John’s advice on raising kids. I’ve always said that a parent’s job is not to raise children but to raise adults. I’m sure both men are great fathers.
Talking to my wife about our daughter, "Who's going to teach her about healthy relationships? 'The Bachelor?' 'Tinder?' 'Hollywood?' Who's going to teach her about money? Capital One? She's going to learn these things and she's going to take on a set of values about right and wrong. It's far better she gets those from those of us who love her."
In my opinion, a parents job is to raise up a human from a child into an adult
It's easier to raise a child correctly than to fix a broken man
Yeager: Wrong. At one time people argued RDS's were a fad on rifles. Now where are we today? RDS's haven't evolved to a point that they're practical on pistols - yet. We're close. The ACRO was a step in the right direction and the Holosun HE509T is another step in the right direction. Once pistol RDS's are small enough with a good field of view, enclosed so elements aren't a factor (like the ACRO And 509T) and battery life is measured in years vs. hours or months, they will become a standard. Just like iron sights are back-ups now on rifles and not generally considered primary sights, the same will become true of RDS's on handguns. John is 100% right, he's teaching the future.
MAC - I was running red dots on rifles BEFORE RUclips or Military Arms Channel existed. I NEVER said not to use Dots Sights on rifles. (I only said EOTech's were shit 10 years before the rest of the world figured it out.) As far as pistols I have trained 83,000 people and have had over 50 in gunfights. They ALL won without a dot sight. Dots have their place but people buy them like they did lasers 10 years ago...like it will make them a better shooter. It will NOT.
@@TacticalResponseCrew Oh settle down, you're wrong. I'm just ribbing you.
@@TacticalResponseCrew I agree that dots are like lasers for new shooters many times. However, dots have a place on a gun someone knows how to use. Lasers? I wouldn't be caught dead with a laser on a carry pistol. :D
@UCqrbFcKq-ir_d6_mczhbseQ I've been carrying with an RMR for a year now
All benefits
Basically no downsides
@@TerranPlanetaryDefenseForce I have a pistol on now with a RDS. I still enjoy open sights but I believe there is a clear advantage to using a RDS. I also believe they are the future. In another 10 years most every carry gun in common use will have a RDS on it. I'll bet my winning lottery ticket on it.
nobody:
james: I've sold more glock 19's than glock has ever made.
This was a fun video, thanks guys. If I had to pick one instructor, I would pick.... ummm.... Voda Consulting. I think both of you could learn a few things if you engaged with him.
His training is perfect if the ceiling is a threat.
@ Voda is a master of... umm... Oh Hell, I would rather take defensive training from Master Ken.
@@muddyhotdog4103 He has that bull pup that kicks like a mofo he bought in 1991 with 1994 post ban features too.
🤣
Voda? Listen, we want to be gun fighters not master siths
Rip James Yeager
I don't know why, but finding out that John Lovell and James Yeager are friends warms my heart.
ArmyPsycho: You're surprised that killers know each other? The old lawyer/shark joke: "Professional courtesy".
Hard to believe 1 yr. later James is gone..😢...
"I always have this fear I'm the shadow of a man I'm supposed to be". I understand that feeling.
James: What changes if you have nods on
John: “You can see in the dark!”
Me: Subscribe, like the video, click on the bell icon, and arm the claymore.
Time stamp?????
Watch the video yourself..
The only thing I took away from this was when John said "I do what I want." MERICA.
I like how the counter started at 2. LMAO
He gave him a 1 for his name 😂😂
I thought #1 was the metrosexual thing
@@josetemali3 , he said his name was “just John.”
“False, black bear.” 😂🤣😂
On the trigger reset question, I cannot get John’s voice out of my head yelling “OFF, ON! Easssssyyyyyyy”
I've had him yell it at me in 110 degree AZ heat and hear his voice whenever I shoot
@@GinEric84 that sounds all good and well, but I saw the RUclips video, so there. I'm not jealous at all about your in person experience.
You've been thru pistol 1 or watched the video a couple times as well i see. 🤣🤣🤣
@@chrisdupree8382 I've been through Pistol 1 & 2 and Rifle 1&2 in person with John
@@chrisdupree8382 I have had the privilege of taking pistol 1 from John.
"Friendship is canceled" lol
Loved this interaction. RIP James.
"You can see in the dark.." made me chuckle, great video
Great response for sure.
Ok that right there should have had an admission price, my God that was awesome.
It was .99 :-)
@@TacticalResponseCrew when I give you the $1 do I get my penny back??
Guys... freedom costs a "buck-o-five"
@The Rules Are Different-Can’t like this comment enough. Well played.
@@therulesaredifferent8280 😂 yes! 🎶America, F*** YEAH. 🎶
This was literally a dream come true. GIVE US PART 2!!!
2 men that are at top of my short list to meet, and also train with.
Tu Lam and Garand Thumb also
Yeager is a fucking tool.
What sucks the most about this video is I have never watched it because I thought it was just going to be bashing John. But now after the passing of James, I learned that this video was not some video full of hate. I wish I would have watched it sooner.
John and James are actually good friends in real life. They've done a ton of collaborative work together. James has actually taken classes from John.
This is on my top 10 favorite videos from your channel. Thanks!
Mine too!
I’ve trained with both of these guys I hope they know how appreciated they are.
"If somebody breaks into my house in the daytime I'm still using my NODS" 🤣
"That's not the first time someone shoved a dollar in my piece of clothing." Man, that is gold! 😂
"What was his name??" Lmao
John has never taken a class from James, but James has taken a class from John.
.. so 51 reasons?
All that says is James was willing to see if John could teach him something he did not know. As a student of an art, you are always looking to better yourself.
James took a night vision class from John
Whats John military background?
@Bartholomew Roberts Yes.
GREAT vid - both of you. I am in my 42 your of full-time preaching and family counseling. I'm also a life-long shooter, reloader and
serious about self-defense. I've had two family members murdered (between 1964 and 1995) and two other family member who were in gunfights and won. The unarmed family members died, he armed family members lived. I love our banter, but deeply respect your teachings - both of you - and I pray you continue your training. God bless you both!
We need more light hearted vids like this now days. This was refreshing and funny on my way to work. Thanks guys. But your wrong...
you're wrong
@@davidoftheforest not as wrong as John tho
No no no. YOU'RE wrong.
You can watch vids while you're driving to work and not hit anything? Does it follow, that you can drive & shoot in the dark, on your way back from work and still not hit anything? Just asking. :(
@@nivek5031 Yeah but you'd probably be wrong.
I know James has LiberTV and I'm in there everyday but man I hope he's also on WPSN
With all the crap going on out there, I really needed this. BUT, we need a part 2 of things that James Yeager is WRONG about. Turn about, fair play!?!? Seriously, are these guys EVER really wrong? I really MUST get training. These are the guys.
Right this was just another wake up call that I need to spend the more & get the training.
I’ve been following James for a long time. Learned about John when James had him on a video. You two are by far my favorite gun channels on RUclips. I’ve met James twice, he’s a super nice guy, still waiting to meet John. Thanks to you both for such awesome content.
You can meet us in CLASSES! :-)
This was great. Really enjoyed it.
This was an awesome concept and I dig it. I'd love to see other channels adopt this. Promotes the community with constructive disagreement. Keep it comin.
When he said he's trying to limit my freedom, it made me snort and cackle. Reminds me of my best friend and his dad.
This is like a 9mm vs 45 debate...
It doesn’t matter, just choose one!
I found it interesting that John bases responses with what HE can do (with 20yrs almost daily training) and Yeager bases perspectives on what his students can realistically learn and use.
Yeager has a douchebag way of assuming he is the only guy who knows what he is doing its annoying i love larry vickers bc he doesnt treat ppl like peasants like yeager does
Not so much, Lovell can shoot while moving very well. It's still generally a bad idea :)
This is incredible content. Seriously. Thank you Yeager and Lovell!
The only two people who've ever combined to deliver material entertaining and useful enough to make me watch a full 50+ minute video on RUclips. Kudos, guys - wishing you both continued success in your very worthy endeavors!
The chemistry between you two is infectious. Thank you, James and John, for everything you do! Nothing but love for both of you.
It’s so refreshing to see two highly respected, highly trained, and highly capable alphas such as this yet who have a great sense of humor and able to not take themselves so seriously that they can’t make fun of themselves AND are not only open about their faith but profess to desire to go deeper.
A rarity in this field that the world needs more of...especially right now.
Machismo is just about the most non-alpha aspect of any personality.
@@waxattakz some people would turn that word around and replace it with bully. Some people.
This is how i am with my friends. It might look like we’re taking shots at each other, but this is my inner circle lol
Only thing missing, Clint Smith commentary on them... Lol!
Ex SAW gunner here…and to this day my ears still ring!
Two of my favorite guys talking gun guy stuff, really enjoyed this
"he is basically anti 2a"
love these 2 together lol
I love to see two instructors I respect, respectfully collaborating. 👍
I believe this is a lost thing 2 men being able to shit on each other and still be friends.
A world full of safe places and hurt feelings is shit.
Michael, sad but true.
Very true. One of the measures of a mature man is this ribbing shtick men take part in.
Great video with great people! "Aannnd you're wrong..."
No, no, that's where you're wrong... It's "float like a Butterfield, sting like a tree". 😂
Thanks to In Living Color, I'll NEVER get that out of my head!
I have watched hundreds of hours of 2A youtube content and have never felt as inspired to improve myself in all aspects of life as I am RIGHT NOW. And I whole heartedly believe James drew the conversation that sparked that. And I’ve never heard of him before today. I read he passed on somewhat recently and already can tell that was a huge loss for the 2A community and the world in general. Thanks for the content, fellas. God bless.
Omg, I'm dying! This is great!
James, please do more of these with other trainers!
Like Travis Haley. Lol
This was great.
So, the counter stands at four, all for the same thing. Obviously using Dominion software.
That’s funny right there. Nice!
For those of you who haven’t trained with Tactical Response, the movement during the draw will make all the sense in the world once you take Fighting Pistol. 100% This is the video WE all NEEDED.
Based on my extensive training I've found that diving to the prone position while firing at a bad guy allows me to smoke him first almost every time. It's taken me hours of practice and in real firefights in Call of Duty Modern Warfare to perfect this technique. It does require the appropriate perk to do this though, otherwise you will either have to fire before going prone or fire after having gone prone. But if you want to smoke check fools, this is the way. I brought this up at a Warrior Poet training class and the noobs laughed at me.
@@Militaryarmschannel Trolling isn’t easy.
@@Militaryarmschannel I always appreciate finding you in random video comments. A true enthusiast!
If it will make 100% sense when they explain it in the class, then someone should just explain it. Then, I would think we can all know and be cool together. But, I get it, you can only know if you took the class. It's impossible to use the English language to convey the idea, unless you take the class.
Dynamic takeoff from the X, coupled with simultaneous draw and shoot seems to be the red pill almost nobody in the self defense community will buck up and swallow.
Yet a single afternoon of properly structured, context-correct Force-on-Force drills make it obvious to just about anyone as to why it's an essential gunfighting skill.
Or at least anyone who doesn't cling to square range prejudices. SMH.
Two guys... Both salt of the earth.
I wasn't good at colors but I can trace. LOL
I first met James in 05 and he is very good guy and a willing help to anyone in need. Thank you both!!! AMEN
One of the very best!
I’m training with both these guys in two months I can’t wait
How'd it go? Did your dog have an accident while you were gone?
How was it?
I like how the two of you can sit down and completely disagree, without yelling or insulting each other. you're both giving people your ideas/opinions and letting the people make up their minds. Great video.
John: "You're a Jerk." Counter doesn't change! LOL!
Reminds me of arguing with my friends, and on many of the same topics. Fun stuff, great friendship on display. Thank both of you for the content!
"Try to raise your kids to love Jesus ...so anyways I was in this room with an un-silenced 5.56 and shot this dude in the face".... lmao
There’s no contradiction here. :)
Context is everything.
Yep, that's the reality no one talks about. Like a Lt. friend years ago who was doing CPR on a dead guy simply because "People" were watching.
There's only one way to settle this - force on force duel. We want the footage
Annnd THAT is what Airsoft is good for!🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
John is the real deal, man. I love watching you two guys talking. I always learn something. Thanks for this great conversation.
James Yeager lived every minute down to the second. We miss you Sir,Till Valhalla!!!
It’s 2am and I just realized that was 50 minutes long, flew by!
Content Gold. Need a monthly version of this in a live chat.
I was completely entertained the whole time... Thanks for everything you 2. God bless.
💗 James & John !!! Thank you, brothers!
I feel like I just got the best/funniest advise from my two favorite uncles
Looking forward to the collab shirt:
"You're a jerk."
With the Tactical Response pistol-fist as background.
This is hilarious man, love the respect you have for each other. More power!
Love this.. 🤣 You guys need to do this more often. Salute!
When you slip cash into James' clothing, first fold it lengthwise.
Two of my favorites but my mind can’t comprehend the differing public personas sitting together.
This interview felt like an episode of Between Two Ferns lmaoo
John is still wrong about home defense silencers. While auditory exclusion exists, it takes a huge adrenaline dump to activate. Which takes time and fear, and you can either casually investigate a weird noise or respond to a kicked door fast, one of those factors is usually missing.
Communication with your family, and later police, is still more important than making the 2nd attacker afraid. It's not as bullshit as just racking your shotgun, but still. Kill the 2nd home invader before he located your position and what is going on instead of scaring him into a position of cover.
"No one in your house is well behaved"
Including and ESPECIALLY John.
:D
When JL whips the money out “from Glock.” 🤣😂 Thoroughly entertained guys. I was smiling ear to ear the whole way through.
"What was his name?" Lmao
Crazy how a year has changed things. Praying for you James keep fighting and training others thanks for everything
James: "I can't even read my own writing" John: "I'm just proud you were able to write"
The 15 dislikes are .40 cal high point owners haha
Wrong. I liked it
@@KAndrey1981 Are you the exception that proves the rule?
@@presidentmerkinmuffley6769 lol. Maybe. I don't And never will own a hi point again
@@KAndrey1981 Well atleast you have learned the error of your ways lol.
I know a dude who got a a hi point carbine, I dont even think he has shot it.
@@presidentmerkinmuffley6769 as James usually points out "did you train with it?" Is the best test. If we train, we learn on the errors of the men/women to our left and right, as well our own folly. When that guy even attempts to shoot, he will start to learn ))
I love the “debate” between these two dudes 😂 classic gents
This actually made me smile like a idiot lmao
Very informative. James Yeager will be missed.
Was I the only one that got the, “Wrong. Black bear.”
If the SHTF, I want these two to join forces, and let me bug in with them.
How do you recomend a class you have never taken ?
i remember the first video you guys did together years ago and james kept telling john he needs to start a youtube channel... well that has turned into a more than just a channel now haha. love both these guys
I love you two together on anything. Learn and laugh at the same time.