I just took my new PMR 30 too the range. I did nothing too the gun but load it and shoot it. I did not lube it at all. I shot 100 rounds through it and only had 3 failure to eject all the way. Not bad for a new gun. I have since disassembled it and lubed the hell out of it. No more problems. Love the gun.
I broke mine in with about 600-700 40gr Maxi-Mags, polished the feed ramp with a Dremel and some toothpaste, and it is still running like a champ nearly ten years later!
When you're holding the slide cover next to the bolt assembly, trying to see what's rubbing, you're holding the cover way too low. Line up the screw holes, then you can clearly see the part that rubs the firing pin is the raised rib in the middle of the cover, between the bolt holes. Those molding pin marks you mentioned are in the empty part of the slide assembly where the hammer lives.
It is clearly that raised portion in the middle that is bearing pressure down on the firing pin if the screws are overtight. Reducing that area, or less torque on the screws causes a small tolerance gap.
This happened to me recently..I put a pic rail and red dot on mine and it immediately began jamming. I loosened those screws on top and it began feeding again. Didn't realize there is action under that cover. I'll check that too. Thank you!
Polish the firing pin can help. If you do polish it be careful not to over heat the pin it will weaken it and break it. And make sure to use a non abrasive polish. cleaing it up oil it on the underside and where the wear marks are but do not over oil it will gum up bad
No one ever mentions it, but I wonder if there aren't torque specifications for those screws were you can mount a Red Dot ? This isn't the first time I've heard of people diddling with that plate, and gum'n up the works !
I own a pmr 30 and I've got to say, I appreciate my mosin nagant even more since spending 400 in a ammo picky pistol. I loosened the four screws on top and that helped a lot, I don't think my pin was sticking but something was binding on it. I also make sure the gun is clean and very oiled before shooting. So far I've had decent success with cci maxi mag 40 grain, but I have to hold the gun very lightly or it ftf, if I barely have a grip I can dump a mag, if i actually grab the pistol it won't feed, it's easier just shooting it with one hand. Not cool but im still figuring it all out ill be sure to spread my findings. Edit. Also I haven't seen many pistols with a little buffer in them, I suppose it's there to shave some wall thickness on the slide, I was thinking maybe they make the buffers a little thick, I think im going to sand the buffer down some and see if that helps, ive ran 3 mags through the gun without the buffer, and that happens to be the best the gun has ran, but I believe there needs to be at least a sliver of plastic to reduce that recoil, call me paranoid but .22mag is a little stout for how much metal is actually there
I also like to add that recently I bought cci vmax rounds, the 30grain polymer tips that go 2200fps, they do not cycle right, ftf. But what I noticed is the tips are longer than standard bullets and they where catching on the mag wall, with some sandpaper I just sand the tips down a little and the feed just fine, I use them for hunting I don't plan on driving nails with a handgun and they seem to expand just the same
This gun likes to be oiled and kept clean and there is a certain ammunition that loads perfectly in the magazines which will not fail to feed . Also a couple of drops of oil on the inside of the magazine release spring helped mine not have any slop or looseness. Everything so far works great .
@@davenstorm7271 I’ve owned two for over ten years. They run great. But, there are a few simple things to remember. Use 40 grain ammo only. Anything else will be a problem. Loves hot loads. CCI maxi are great. Two, load the mag correctly! Every time I’ve seen a malfunction, the magazine is loaded wrong. Simple to do. Watch a video. These mags do not feed like a regular mag. Three, oil! I use Lucas extreme duty on the slides, or the grease. It loves oil. And clean it. Guys run 500 rounds, dry as a bone, then they piss and moan about what a shitty pistol it is. No. Do these simple things and it’ll run awesome for you. I just bought my third one last week, $420 so I had to have it. Lubed it up, and I e put 200 rounds through it and not one problem. Good luck and good shooting
@@johnburrows1179 Thank you sir since I posted this question I went a different route and bought a Regard 9mm where I am there is no 22 ammo available anywhere, hasn't been for months and months it's crazy and only getting worse!
@@davenstorm7271 that’s too bad. Here in Florida it’s all over the place. Weird how different states are plenty and others are scarce. Preview of things to come I believe
Well, If you want to spend all that money on that Kit, maybe it will solve all these problems But It Costs more than you paid for your gun! Then what happens if you still have problems? Yes, then you have to send it back to Kel-Tec, Right! Something you should have done in the beginning, Right! Go Ahead & make MCarbo Ritch!
A customer brought in one of these to install the ultimate upgrade kit. What a nightmare. The gun would not run right. Mcarbo has no customer service, will not answer emails requesting help. The kit cost almost as much as the gun and still would not run right. It took me about 6 weeks and I had to BUY replacement parts from Mcarbo because they would not replace the bad parts. I lost about $300 in time getting this gun to finally work. I will never touch another one. I have never recommended Keltecs to anyone and I most certainly never work on one again.
Don't say you solved the problem If You're just showing a video I've had to take the gun apart and telling us how you cleaned it that doesn't solve s***
I’ve got one and honestly it really is a POS. I can get it to cycle ok especially since using a uplula speed loader but it’s really not very accurate and it feels as though it will come apart at anytime while shooting. It’s fun junk.
I just installed an aftermarket brace for mine that replaces the stock rear cover,and I believe I must have overtightened them... guess what I've got now? A snapped firing pin!
Dang. My pin comes right out. Regarding the pin, I had to replace it like 3-4 times now. Keltec uses crappy materials apparently. Wish I could buy an upgrade someplace else
If you put some gun oil on that pin it really helps when you need to take the weapon down for cleaning. I just use a ball point pin to push mine out . No tapping required.
You have a 1st Generation Model and The New 2nd Generation has been Issued in 2022 and this is the one that I have. I have shot over 1000 rounds through mine with only 3 FTF and I just tap the slide & round goes right into chamber. The second Generation has a new Un-fluted Barrel and several other upgrades, which make it much more reliable and I Now use mine as my EDC!
I have been doing high voltage line work for over 30 years. This is a common solution. Wrenches for hammers, screw drivers for pry bars, wrenches for hammers, etc. It never ends.....LOL.
I'm on my 4th firing pin. I'll never buy Keltec again because of this. Great customer service, but what use is a gun that breaks so often. My hellcat has no such issue.
I've never seen a gun that had to be worked on or tweeked so much than the PMR 30, it's like they just put it out there to fast or something that they left the final stuff to do to the customer as opposed to doing the final tuning themselves.
The whole reason i got mine, i knew they sucked but with some hands on an tweaking , mine runs anything anytime anywhere 😊 , still wouldn't trust my life on it tho , mines just a toy
I’m having the feeding problem on my cmr30 but it’s the chamber being dirty the empty casing won’t eject as they as wayyy too tight pressed in the chamber due to some Bent occurring while loading the cartridge into the chamber…
I just took my new PMR 30 too the range. I did nothing too the gun but load it and shoot it. I did not lube it at all. I shot 100 rounds through it and only had 3 failure to eject all the way. Not bad for a new gun. I have since disassembled it and lubed the hell out of it. No more problems. Love the gun.
I broke mine in with about 600-700 40gr Maxi-Mags, polished the feed ramp with a Dremel and some toothpaste, and it is still running like a champ nearly ten years later!
When you're holding the slide cover next to the bolt assembly, trying to see what's rubbing, you're holding the cover way too low. Line up the screw holes, then you can clearly see the part that rubs the firing pin is the raised rib in the middle of the cover, between the bolt holes.
Those molding pin marks you mentioned are in the empty part of the slide assembly where the hammer lives.
It is clearly that raised portion in the middle that is bearing pressure down on the firing pin if the screws are overtight. Reducing that area, or less torque on the screws causes a small tolerance gap.
PMR 30 has so much potential. Glad folks like you are picking apart the feed problem.
That dog bark at 2:44 had me thinking my neighbors dog got in my house somehow🤣
This happened to me recently..I put a pic rail and red dot on mine and it immediately began jamming. I loosened those screws on top and it began feeding again. Didn't realize there is action under that cover. I'll check that too. Thank you!
Polish the firing pin can help. If you do polish it be careful not to over heat the pin it will weaken it and break it. And make sure to use a non abrasive polish. cleaing it up oil it on the underside and where the wear marks are but do not over oil it will gum up bad
No one ever mentions it, but I wonder if there aren't torque specifications for those screws were you can mount a Red Dot ?
This isn't the first time I've heard of people diddling with that plate, and gum'n up the works !
I own a pmr 30 and I've got to say, I appreciate my mosin nagant even more since spending 400 in a ammo picky pistol. I loosened the four screws on top and that helped a lot, I don't think my pin was sticking but something was binding on it. I also make sure the gun is clean and very oiled before shooting. So far I've had decent success with cci maxi mag 40 grain, but I have to hold the gun very lightly or it ftf, if I barely have a grip I can dump a mag, if i actually grab the pistol it won't feed, it's easier just shooting it with one hand. Not cool but im still figuring it all out ill be sure to spread my findings.
Edit. Also I haven't seen many pistols with a little buffer in them, I suppose it's there to shave some wall thickness on the slide, I was thinking maybe they make the buffers a little thick, I think im going to sand the buffer down some and see if that helps, ive ran 3 mags through the gun without the buffer, and that happens to be the best the gun has ran, but I believe there needs to be at least a sliver of plastic to reduce that recoil, call me paranoid but .22mag is a little stout for how much metal is actually there
Thanks for commenting. It is a fun gun when it runs.......
I also like to add that recently I bought cci vmax rounds, the 30grain polymer tips that go 2200fps, they do not cycle right, ftf. But what I noticed is the tips are longer than standard bullets and they where catching on the mag wall, with some sandpaper I just sand the tips down a little and the feed just fine, I use them for hunting I don't plan on driving nails with a handgun and they seem to expand just the same
mcarbo
Man.... you deserve a new screwdriver! I also continue to use tools from the 60's that my grandpa left me. Good video.
This gun likes to be oiled and kept clean and there is a certain ammunition that loads perfectly in the magazines which will not fail to feed . Also a couple of drops of oil on the inside of the magazine release spring helped mine not have any slop or looseness. Everything so far works great .
What ammo do you use in yours and what is the best gun oil in your opinion for this fire arm ? I just bought one it's still on layaway
@@davenstorm7271 I’ve owned two for over ten years. They run great. But, there are a few simple things to remember. Use 40 grain ammo only. Anything else will be a problem. Loves hot loads. CCI maxi are great. Two, load the mag correctly! Every time I’ve seen a malfunction, the magazine is loaded wrong. Simple to do. Watch a video. These mags do not feed like a regular mag. Three, oil! I use Lucas extreme duty on the slides, or the grease. It loves oil. And clean it. Guys run 500 rounds, dry as a bone, then they piss and moan about what a shitty pistol it is. No. Do these simple things and it’ll run awesome for you. I just bought my third one last week, $420 so I had to have it. Lubed it up, and I e put 200 rounds through it and not one problem. Good luck and good shooting
@@johnburrows1179 Thank you sir since I posted this question I went a different route and bought a Regard 9mm where I am there is no 22 ammo available anywhere, hasn't been for months and months it's crazy and only getting worse!
@@davenstorm7271 that’s too bad. Here in Florida it’s all over the place. Weird how different states are plenty and others are scarce. Preview of things to come I believe
@@johnburrows1179 Yes Sir it sure is I'm in West Virginia .. Alot of weird and crazy stuff is going on all around our Country !
Install the Mcarbo All In One Bundle and your problems are over
Well, If you want to spend all that money on that Kit, maybe it will solve all these problems But It Costs more than you paid for your gun! Then what happens if you still have problems? Yes, then you have to send it back to Kel-Tec, Right! Something you should have done in the beginning, Right! Go Ahead & make MCarbo Ritch!
@@stevekatz4372 to bad you’re so negative have a nice day
But it for me 😂
A customer brought in one of these to install the ultimate upgrade kit. What a nightmare. The gun would not run right. Mcarbo has no customer service, will not answer emails requesting help. The kit cost almost as much as the gun and still would not run right. It took me about 6 weeks and I had to BUY replacement parts from Mcarbo because they would not replace the bad parts. I lost about $300 in time getting this gun to finally work. I will never touch another one. I have never recommended Keltecs to anyone and I most certainly never work on one again.
Polish the feed ramp it solved my feeding problems. Ammo can also be a problem...some ammo like federal cycle better than others.
Feed ramp is polymer
@@sambassinet6250 get the mcarbo stainless steel feed ramp and polish trust
Don't say you solved the problem If You're just showing a video I've had to take the gun apart and telling us how you cleaned it that doesn't solve s***
I’ve got one and honestly it really is a POS. I can get it to cycle ok especially since using a uplula speed loader but it’s really not very accurate and it feels as though it will come apart at anytime while shooting. It’s fun junk.
Let me have it 😂
Dont overtighten those screws. It will cause problemos.
I just installed an aftermarket brace for mine that replaces the stock rear cover,and I believe I must have overtightened them... guess what I've got now? A snapped firing pin!
Dang. My pin comes right out. Regarding the pin, I had to replace it like 3-4 times now. Keltec uses crappy materials apparently. Wish I could buy an upgrade someplace else
Just broke my second one the other day. Fun gun until it isn't.
Skfoster64 .....must be made of Chinesium
If you put some gun oil on that pin it really helps when you need to take the weapon down for cleaning. I just use a ball point pin to push mine out . No tapping required.
You have a 1st Generation Model and The New 2nd Generation has been Issued in 2022 and this is the one that I have. I have shot over 1000 rounds through mine with only 3 FTF and I just tap the slide & round goes right into chamber. The second Generation has a new Un-fluted Barrel and several other upgrades, which make it much more reliable and I Now use mine as my EDC!
I own one. Sometimes I am sorry I bought it. Very good video
I agree. I'm ready 2 send mine back to Coco Beach Florida.. wish I'd never bought it.. piece of junk
Wow I never thought I could see someone use a screwdriver for a hammer.
I have been doing high voltage line work for over 30 years. This is a common solution. Wrenches for hammers, screw drivers for pry bars, wrenches for hammers, etc. It never ends.....LOL.
I'm on my 4th firing pin. I'll never buy Keltec again because of this. Great customer service, but what use is a gun that breaks so often. My hellcat has no such issue.
mine has been running really good since this fix.
it's a range gun only for me.
Looks like your firing pin return spring has a hump in it. Might be binding in the forward position.
But how did you clean it? Can you do a video showing that please?
Super helpful video. Thank you!
I had a polished slide installed and a spring to hold the magazine snug in place, problem solved, parts are available.
I've never seen a gun that had to be worked on or tweeked so much than the PMR 30, it's like they just put it out there to fast or something that they left the final stuff to do to the customer as opposed to doing the final tuning themselves.
The whole reason i got mine, i knew they sucked but with some hands on an tweaking , mine runs anything anytime anywhere 😊 , still wouldn't trust my life on it tho , mines just a toy
That's an awesome hammer!
That's a screw-hammer & allen-punch
I have one and it don't shoot a pattern what could be the problem
Thank you
Thanks!
The manual says to run co maxi mag in them
yep that works the best
Dude…all we see is your left hand
Otherwise good description
Filmed with hands blocking or firearm out of viee
If kel tec has so many problems why buy them
"Feeding Problem solved " ???????????????????? How ???????
By getting the firing pin unlocked..........
I’m having the feeding problem on my cmr30 but it’s the chamber being dirty the empty casing won’t eject as they as wayyy too tight pressed in the chamber due to some
Bent occurring while loading the cartridge into the chamber…
Weekend gunsmith.
What's your point?
Possibly the poorest video I've seen on youtube.
I've seen way worse, he has actually helped me with this video
Too aggressive with this plastic gun my friend slow down
This guy don’t know crap about this gun.