How to Load the Magazine PMR-30 & CMR-30
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- We made a video to show the correct way to load the CMR-30 and PMR-30 magazine that prevents "rim-lock" and how to load all 30 rounds.
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You must have weak mag springs once I get to about 15 or 20 you need your speedloader which really doesn't matter because it won't feed them anyway,I just finally called Kel Tec after breaking a fireing pinafter 5 years and less that 500 rounds and the Tech told me that I could send it back to them to be serviced but after 3 years they would no longer honor the "LIMITED" Lifetime warranty and it would cost me $$$ on top of shipping fees
I absolutely LOVE my PMR 30, but would actually shoot it and enjoy it if it wasn’t a jammamatic 30. I can’t get more than 4 rounds out of that thing without it jamming up. I had one years ago that always tan perfectly but unfortunately had to sell it. I bout this one and was SO excited about it until I tried shooting it.
Thanks for the video. I wish you made a PMR with an eight or nine inch barrel. I'd love to have the smaller size of the pistol with the bullet velocity that comes with a few more inches of barrel. The .22 WMR would be a viable self-defense round if a gun had a bit of barrel length and very reliable feeding.
Great technique, great explanation, great advice, great VDO - Thank you.
@@envirogeologist5940 then why are you here!???
Doesn’t work the spring is so tight can only load about 15 until it takes so much force it dents the cartridge below . Love the gun but the mags suck
Glad you made this video. I just bought a new PMR 30, my first one, and I found loading the mags were a royal pain. Not only was it a pain, but I chose to stop at 21 rounds per magazine, for fear of damaging a round and getting it stuck. I will try this the next time I empty my mags. However I will say, pain though it be, using CCI 40gr rounds, I did not have one single malfunction, so yes, I like my little new best buddy!
I put 20and mine was tough and jammed every 5 rounds
This video should have ended with one of the famous PMR or CMR 30 round magazine dumps. Bump firing is optional.
I don't understand why Kel-tec does not do a little dremel work on the action and loading ramps. It would only take a few minutes. And the fitting of the magazines to the magazine catch is a bit variable between guns, with some not being able to rake up a round cause the magazine lips are riding too low.
Good advise, and the tapping the mag backward is essential for perfect feeding.
I don't know if I got a bad mag but the spring doesn't keep the cartridges feeding upwards and don't feed into my pmr
This technique worked for me.
I did tap the back of the mag against my palm each round after #20.
It totally worked.
I never would have believed 30 would fit but they did.
60 or 90 round mags ???
I want to see you repeat this with a brand new magazine our of a new PMR-30. No one on Earth is strong enough to push the 30 round down with one finger. And it WILL dent the previous cartridge, no matter how you do it.
Agree
Kel-tec y'all should think of making a pmr 30 In 17hmr caliber
Most people would just buy a Five-Seven at that point.
But the 5 7 is a grand, when you can find one. I've seen them advertised for 800, but out of stock
@@scowler92 .17 is so much cheaper
If you want to make the customers happy I would suggest selling the PMR-30 and CMR-30 with the American Speedloader Nest loader right in the box . It makes loading these mags fast and fun taking the learning curve out of the equation. It loads every round exactly the same avoiding the rim lock issue and you dont have to smack the mags on the bench avoiding possible damage. The only downside is it makes mag dumps so much fun you need to buy more ammo.
P17 is a beast..love mine..was loading dented cases from the new box..just to see if it would tolerate them..no regets..gotta Try one of these.
I bought a Lula PMR-30 loader & unloader. It works great. Simply drop in a cartridge, push down, then with your thumb, push in. Simple, fast, and easy.
I was loading the Grendel magazine and found it surprisingly easy. I expected a lot more trouble being such a long case, and so many rounds of ammunition. Most of the time when you have a situation like that, the friction really gets hard to overcome near the end. Good magazine design.
I’ve been wanting the pmr 30 for 3 years now, I just bought one, and absolutely love it. Great firearm, great quality.
God Texas Trump I was able to get my hands on one yesterday. I'm still on the fence but leaning towards picking it up tonight. Did you have problems out of the box or are all these people bitch'n about it just limp wristed?
Jason Bourne I think ppl had issues with the old model, my brother in law is a capt in the sheriffs dept in MN and has one, he has lots of guns, and this was the one he recommended I get. I love it, sexy little gun🇺🇸😎
Jason Bourne How do you limp wrist a .22mag? LMAO
Nothing but trouble right outta the box. Feed issues out the ass..500 rounds in front sight flew off and disappeared.. 700 rounds into it the firing pin broke..they sent me a new front sight.. was gonna send it back for the firing pin and feed issues and they told me a 7 week turn around.. so I ordered a couple firing pins and other parts at my expense instead. Installed new firing pin today and it's working again. I did the five minute fix on one mag but used JB Weld instead and it worked like a charm 200 rounds thru the mag I did and not one FTF The other mag I didn't do I can't get thru 6 rounds without a FTF. Didn't do the other mag and still have FTF issues so i'm gonna do that one to. Told a keltec rep over the phone last week about the fix and his comment was "well I don't see how a little super glue is gonna do anything" with a don't care sound in his voice. Well here's a clue buddy ..it sure as shit fixed my FTF issue and quite a few other guy's on YT also. It doesn't take a mechanical whiz to notice the gap between the bottom of the grip and the top of the mag base plate. HENCE the JB WELD fix. I shouldn't have to MAKE a brand new gun work. So am I limp wristing ..NO !!! am I BITCHING.. fuckin aye right I am. This is a 49/51 gun. 49% you may get a good one..51% you won't. Keltec needs to fix their shit in this case instead of letting their customers do I for them. Sorry for the long rant ..just had to unload :) But I will end with this ..when this gun actually works it is a friggin blast to shoot :)
@@dbel723333 sad thing is ,it's too light to be a paper weight....save your money buy anything else buy once cry once.
Have you considered making a model chambered in 5.7 or .357 sig?
Man, you just blew my mind! I'm the dumb thumb loader. I just bought one of these guns a couple days ago. I got the mag loaded but it was hard on my thumb. Damn gun is a blast to shoot!
Very useful info! I can see that loading goes pretty fast also. Thanks!
Know you need to shoots so we can see if you technique works
The magazine has rim-lock interrupters at the back of each feed lip to push the leading round forward. So is the loading technique for avoiding rim-lock still necessary?
I was doing it wrong on my first try out a few weeks ago, Tried this method today and much, much better. Hope to do a proper field test this weekend. Whew! Thanks very much for this great instructional video.
well I definitely dented a casing trying to put the 25th bullet in, using this method
Great technique. I suggest putting a bandaid over the top of your thumb or using a thimble. Sometimes a sharp-tipped round can slide under the thumbnail.
I just went out and shot my brand new PMR 30 for the first time today and had 15 failure to eject in the first 30 rounds and I'm really hoping it's because I loaded the mag wrong.
Useful info but my recommendation is to get a speedloader. 0 issues when loading with those. I don't hate the American but it is a little bigger and takes more force and therefore more of a firm foundation, so I prefer the maglula
What about speed loaders? If you choose one which one?
*Hey, it's Chadwick from Kel-Tec!*
and?
Mine started acting up, not feeding and the tech at KT said that I was probably not loading the mags correctly. However, after watching the video I have been doing it right. I cleaned one of the old mags and even bought a brand new one but the trouble continues.
Mine likes all 30 gr rounds. Winchester, CCI, Hornady, etc
I've seen videos where people put 5 second fix (or similar type) brand epoxy on the bottom of the mag release to get rid of play and tighten it up.
Same. They recommend heavier grain rounds yet I have found 30gr works best for me.
order a new barrel
That magazine is broke in because both mine are hard to load even 5 rounds
Yeah after loading and unloading 4-5 times and continued failure to feed I’m calling a quits on it
Man I'm glad you made this video!
I can not do that, I can only get 15 rounds in before I give up. You made that look so easy, I guessing you practiced that procedure like 500 times. 😆 impressive 👏
Is this Magazine a "tri - stack"Magazine?
When do we get the rdb survival?!
GUNBROKER.
Just what I needed to see. No need to tap.
The CMR30 😢I loved the look of this gun I wanted to love it so much.. 😢but it really does suck having used almost every ammo available I only ran 1 complete mag with out a hitch after reloading and using the same ammo it failed 5 times in a row. I cannot recommend this gun.
Well, that technique looks a lot better than the Maglula (which I wasted money on) which dents the cases (maybe I'm doing something wrong). I'll try this method with my old, tired, sore old man arthritic hands. Thanks, Kel-Tec.
i dont think the maglula is rated for 22 mags, at least not the one i have. i use mine exclusively for glock and ruger 9mm mags
@@JacobWat No, I'm referring to the Maglula made specifically for the Kel-Tec PMR-30 and CMR-30 firearm magazines (30 round capacity/22 WMR). www.midwayusa.com/product/1021153869
@@texasstadium ah my bad, didnt even know they made one for it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . Strange that it would dent the brass
I would like to get one of these. I heard they have A Gen 2 that works really well. Is that true?
Nope, same exact problems.
I have the Gen 2 no problems you just have 2 load it properly
The P32 is another gun you should do this with. .32 acp will rimlock.
Awesome man thanks
Pick up a speed loader nest style eBay $30 free shipping spare your fingers these mags are tight to the viewers!
Thank you. Works great
Please make these 2 guns in .22lr!
No
Buy one of the hundreds of 22 lr guns they have this is a niche gun
Load mine to 25 rounds, less stress on the spring
I hope we can get these in the philippines..
Chad is loading it up!
I think you have strong hands
bro thats gay, just sayin!
It is a big load of 30
Do these mags work with .22LR also?
Articulate, Well done sir
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To me it looks like u load like a AR mag
Thank you
I had to get loader and loading was simpler, easier …)))
Thanks
Make sure you cross your toes also
Yeah... Now let's see him fire more than 5 rds without a problem. I own the gun and think its cool - but I would never trust it to be reliable in a life or death situation.
I would
I've never had a problem with mine. I've only run a couple hundred rounds through, but it seems like a solid gun. Maybe you got a lemon..
Jonathan Bleyl you actually have to do some polishing and break in time and technic I have mine running at about 98% have a couple videos out.
Mine fires all 30 rounds consistently untill it gets dirty, after about 200 rounds it needs cleaned/lubed. I wouldn't depend on any rimfire for a life or death situation.
Mine sucks also. Can’t load more than 10 rounds without the followers getting bound up and not cycling correctly
Hey, KT, make PMR30-alike in 7.62x25!
Your P15 is a complete fiasco!
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Im denting the shit out of the casings
When you see copper? Wtf?
what is at issue?
They suck I hate this gun and wish I never got it. I wouldn’t trust my life with it.
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Oh, Hoss why waste your time and ours the viewers, the gun PMR30 in which this fool me bought for 500. is pure junk, and when that happens I never buy another product for the manufacturer of it , even if they make a good one later, the risk to my hard-earned cash it to grate
Brand new out of the box mags could not make it past 24rds without constantly smacking the bottom of the mag and rounds not falling in place, along with denting, really annoys me, and thats even with the springs cut. Garbage plastic mags. Taking it out for the range tomorrow, hopefully it wont have feeding problems.