Wow! that Elantra N is no joke. The ass hauling is legit. Congrats again Nem on a great car. Sam, love seeing the cap - thank you for that! It suits you perfectly!
Surprised so many people are surprised lol. The N has a bunch more power and it’s WAAAAY underrated. Over 300 for sure. I have an MK8 with an intake and it’s quick, but it’s no N. Wait for tunes to come and then it’ll be a more fair fight. Great vid!! PS: VW’s transmission is DSG 😊
My god. Who knew that the VW GTI never even had a chance....not even a little chance. I thought it would be close with having the Elantra N with the edge. The Elantra N looked like it was in a whole different category/league compared to the GTI. Perhaps, Elantra N-Line vs the GTI??? Sam, another great video. Keep up the good work!
The N line wouldn’t even be close to a Mk8 or Mk7. The Full N is like an entirely different car compared to the N line. Kind of wish the N line and Civic si made more power to compete with the Gti, since they don’t make the 250hp veloster N anymore
@@PapiAndrey Agree the GTI is a different category than the Elantra N-Line. Yes, the GTI would definitely beat the Elantra N-Line. It would be interesting to see by how much or how bad.
@@mikedaleiden7725 no it would not be more competitive. The N-line makes 180whp 😂 that’s 100whp less than the N, plus a gearbox that isn’t as good, tuning that isn’t as aggressive, worse gearing, worse tires. I worked at Hyundai before and I’ve driven both cars, there’s a huge difference. It would be interesting against a Mk6 Gti or Gli
It's just in the heat of competition. Don't be trolls. The roll was 2 car lengths. More from a dig. Both cars advertised hp is actually closer to that at the wheels. I've seen several dynos for both. Just purchased my 2022 GTI dsg and love it. But I'm a car guy first. My GTI is just as fun to drive as my 5.7L R/T Charger Blacktop Edition but with better MPG. I knew the Elantra N was going to eat it. C&D clocked the Elantra N at 13.8 @ 105mph but the trap doesn't jive. That car should be 13.4 ish. C&D also charted the GTI at 13.6 @ 104mph so you guys get my point. Elantra N is goddamn quick. Reliability is tbd. Not sure on it's availability and interior/exterior styling will not be for everyone.
"Normal GTI" is no match for N Hyundai cars (Elantra N or I30N). But here in Europe we have GTI Clubsport 45 with 290ps...I think that it would be a good match for Elantra
@@2010ngojo Your math is off. Quote : Prices start from £37,215 - up from the £33,460 starting figure of the standard GTI. So less than 5000 USD. It’s not a case of how dare they it’s more of a case of WHY BOTHER ? A 50hp advantage was a forgone conclusion. Oh and UK prices of the new I30N 280 hatch, which is basically a trunkless Elantra, are now £35000+ so £2000 within a CS GTI. I’d say they are very comparable on price and stats in this country. I’m not here to hate or kick off I’m just stating I saw it as a somewhat unfair pairing.
@@Buck3366 No, I compare the golf r to the elantra n for price. No point in comparing the i30n which is not available in North America. Or compare the elantra n to the gti clubsport when the elantra is not available in those regions. My point still stands.
@@2010ngojo I think the specs on this elantra are very underrated. I drive an 21 a5 sb, about 280hp and 320lbft(JB4 map 2). It pulled on me from 80mph on the highway... Not sure if he had some tune or not, but after watching these videos(it beats the Golf R also - Sam has a video on that).... this little car goes:)
It's fair to compare them base on pricing. But I guess it's just not a fair game base one performance. GTI might feel more upscale, but the bang per dollar is way better with the EN.
@@tonymansour3578 slow? C/D was able to *average* 0-60 at 5 seconds flat in the sonata n line lol. Not only that but the EN took 6.1 seconds from 5-60 and the sonata did it in 5.2. The Sonata N Line/K5 GT are *not* slow. I have owned the snl and I own the EN now.
@@Soul_Flow_ Have you been living under a rock? Dealers are marking these up. I don't know where "your friend" is from, but in Texas, every single Hyundai dealer I have called has added a huge markup to the Elantra N. Least amount I was told was $40k. If "your friend" managed to get it for MSRP, good on them... they got really lucky. That does not make what I said untrue.. Texas car dealers are greedy.
Same. Sitting on a 21 gti dsg with almost 10k on her. Love the car but holding off on the r turbo upgrade after seeing this car and the and Carolla we will be getting soon
I still think the Elantra would win but something seems off about that mk8. It seems significantly slower than the other stock mk8 gti I’ve seen in drag races like when carwow did it
oh did they pit the mk8 gti vs the i30n or something if so the i30n is the 3rd slowest out of the N cars even with the dct the others all have a faster 0 to 60 time then it does i imagine why thats why they are not going to bring that car here no use bringing a car thats slower than the other models that we have over here unless they take off some of that weight it has
Car and Driver has the 1/4mi and trap speeds for these cars at almost exactly the same; however, that’s with a DSG GTI and a manual Elantra N. I wasn’t expecting this much of a killing from the DCT EN but damn that car is fast. I think the tuning in the DSG or the traction control is worse than that in the DCT Elantra, and it’s really letting the GTI down.
@@Tsand4 That’s what I said. The manual Elantra N was tested to be as fast as a DSG Mk8 GTI. Ik the DCT is faster, but I wasn’t expecting this much faster.
@@Tsand4 It’s cool. I really want to see timed test results for the DCT Elantra N too, because it should put down some impressive numbers for “under 300hp” and FWD.
Thanks for the video. There is another channel that raced a Kona N vs MK8 GTI and they finished dead even. You're video kinda shows that wasn't an accurate race so thank you. (P.s. I really am digging the refreshed GTI look!)
Love the videos man! I have an EN(dct) myself and the car is beast for its price range, I have ran a few r/t chargers and challengers against my Elantra N and this car has absolutely been destroying people and blowing everyone’s mind, would love to see a proper race between some pure muscle up against it to see what the Elantra can handle!
Something is definitely weird about how the Mk8 GTI is launching. I think the owners explanation of wheel hop might be correct, but really it just seems like they made the traction control stay on more in sport traction.
@@Volks2462 It could be. When Carwow was racing the Mk8, it seemed to be hooking up really well. However, the tuning in the EU market cars could be slightly different.
Nah you are just mad because a Hyundai Korean economy car is better than the German performance oriented car! Also dat clupsport start at 15k more expensive than that of Elantra, so not a fair race and no one in their right mind will agree on doing it.
@@SLMZ8 and don't forget about the warranty, you get 4 years basic and 4 years powertrain, the Elantra N on the other hand 5 years basic and 10 years powertrain.
Lol @ Nems face 😂 looks like he's being affected by G forces. He can star in new top gun movie. New video format is very slick, don't know if we need the roll up to the line for every race. That new GTI looks really good aesthetically inside and out. Especially the rims. Background music fits too. Thanks for vid! 360 camera is amazing more of that please always love those angles
Wow! I am surprised but not surprised. I knew the Elantra N would take it but was very surprised by how the GTI was completely embarrassed. The Elantra N is no joke. Great video, Sam!
@@vroomgc I think many may be surprised the Elantra N may beat the Golf R. The Elantra N is lighter in weight and is definitely pushing more than 276hp stock.
@@joelmccoy6474 Nope. The Elantra N has been tracked at mid to high 13's for the 1/4 mile. The Golf R does low 13's. So the R would beat it. And 0-60 times are 5.2 to 4.5 for the R. This is all searchable data
@@vroomgc not interested in a long back and forth. I’ve Owned 2 out of the three cars in question. The n would comfortably pull on an mk7 R on a roll. Not from a dig to 100km/h/ 62mph as AWD obviously makes it consistently faster from a launch. The roll though as i said the n would walk away from a stock mk7 R.
The Elantra N is almost $40k with a DCT too. The GTI has an MSRP of $30k but an Autobahn like the one in the video with DSG is also probably close to $40k. They’re very similar priced cars, but if Toyota can keeps its promise of a low $30k MSRP then it could steal the market from both of these with the GR Corolla.
@@BrownSofaGamer the GTI should be competing against the likes of a Honda Civic Si, the elantra N peers would be the Golf R, The Type R, the Corolla GR, and the Veloster N, price wise the Hyundais are priced very competitively. I however wise they had more KIA designers. Both Hyundai cars have a very hit or miss design for people, KIA imo has a more elegant if you may style. The stinger GT, the Genesis G70/G80, the K5 GTs are all beautiful cars imo.
The 360 camera is brilliant. I can't wait to see it used on races that are a bit closer than this. Not to mention your story telling, finesse and overall quality of the videos is getting so good!!! Also there was maybe 60m between the two vehicles at the line on the digs. A Boeing 747 in the most optimal conditions needs about 1500m to land. You sir, lied and I'm unsubscribing :P - Kevin
Everybody crying that the GTI isn’t the N’s competition is delusional. They’re in the same price bracket. Small and sporty. The Golf R is 10k more expensive. That’s not comparable. Do you want a faster, more raw and unrefined ride( and not as good looking)? Or do you want a more well rounded(no pun😁) feature laden, daily driver with more long term tuning possibilities? But the AWD R isn’t in the same class.
You understand, both great cars but different flavours. I wouldn’t consider them direct competition, I’d say the Type R is a closer competitor to the N. The GTI seems to be in its own semi-luxurious category of hot-hatch. The Golf R is a super hot-hatch, and would definitely smoke both cars lol
They don’t compete. A Gti cs would be the N’s competition. These two are both underrated, they make their rated numbers at the wheels. Gti tested at 240whp and the EN tested at 285whp. Look at the specs, the Gti clubsport is much closer to the N. Money doesn’t dictate if the cars compete, it’s how similar they are
@@PapiAndrey cars compete against eachother in price brackets. Some cars just punch above there weight. Shit the GTI is more expensive then the EN they can touch 40k.
@@Tsand4 the N punches above its weight in terms of power, but definitely not near the quality and prestige of the GTI. I drive long commutes so the GTI was a no brainer in comparison to the Elantra N. I track my cars maybe once or twice a year so it wasn’t worth going with the ultra stiff ride quality of the N. What I’m trying to say is comparing these vehicles based on pricing can be pretty irrelevant considering they’re differences
@@ImranKhan-mi4bh the only thing the GTI has over the N is slightly higher quality interior materials. The EN is perfectly fine to daily drive in comfort mode. The EN is much quicker handles much better has way more feel has a better DCT better sounding exhaust. Better LSD with true torque vectoring…..WAY WAY better infotainment. But yet the GTI costs 5k more with any options. I don’t think some better materials are worth 5k. Your trying to say the EN is just quicker when in reality it’s better at everything besides some materials and being a little stiffer then GTI. But a lot of people complain the GTI is to soft/numb.
@@andrewwerdna9868 not wheel, engine HP. Here in Europe we only talk engine HP and not wheel HP because the wheel HP is different. FWD and RWD cars looses less HP as a AWD car and it makes a different whether the car has a manuel or different autom. transmission.
@@alengreen589 how would you get an accurate reading at the engine on a dyno, when a dyno reads at the wheels or hubs? Power at the wheels is what matters.
I think the Elantra N can make a real comparison to a golf MK8 clubsport and not a golf MkR. Front-wheel drive has to compete with front-wheel drive. Even if the golf clubsport has 300hp against the 280hp of the Elantra.
How many races and no mention of ECS settings? Even the roll races, no mention of what of what gear they're in? You guys need to watch CarWow or any channel that does proper drag races. The GTI probably would have done better with ESC set in "sport" instead of active or off.
You know what you should do? You should have a view showing one car pull up to the line and stop, and then show the other car pull up to the line and stop. Can't believe you didn't show that 🙄 Oh wait....
I've own a GTI as well as other cars. The new GTI does quarter miles in 13.5 seconds but the Hyundai Electra n does quarter miles in 13.1 seconds. Plus it actually make 100 HP more than the GTI.
Sheesh those were the biggest gaps I've seen on this channel in awhile. Hyundai is definetly underrating power, that N is somewhere in the 300s. As a fan and customer of both VW & Hyundai, I already know what the reaction from the VW guys will be like lol. Also, congrats to your dude for getting married!
Good video again.👍🏼👏🏼😉🙂 Does it split Volkswagen DSG dual clutch transmission software or traction control system?. 🤔 Is the Golf GTI lighter, than the Elantra N because the power difference (241 hp vs 286hp) between them is quite large?.🤔 The VW Golf GTI should have been a 300hp (R/Club Sport) model, or is this already a four-wheel drive model?. 🤔
The white text over the green bar (when doing the horsepower specs) was a bit hard to see. My advice would be to add a thicker black bordering around the text/font to make it easier to read against different colour backgrounds.
Man that's hard to believe. The GTI couldn't put the power down well. Was electronic slip also disabled? The Elantra certainly get's up and moves though!
This video seems like something just wasn’t right… should’ve left it in S rather than using paddles, and should leave traction in ESC Sport for the best results
I dont think that would be fair vs the 22 MK8 golf R. that has a listed 1/4 mile of 12.3 vs the Elantra N 13.8, not from a dig, the Golf Rs AWD would destroy the FWD cars. A roll race would be more interesting.
ppl shouldnt be surprised by this. GTI is not the all out performance hatch that would be the Clubsport. GTI is a great daily with crazy tuning capabilities but out the box it is a lux sport hatchback.
@@SamCarLegion you need to stop with these false videos already its making you look sus. when other videos out there show different outcomes of similar match ups.
@@mattsmith7379 your really butt hurt bro...the real question is...how much is VW paying YOU. Sam is a lot but he doesn't do HMG any favors, watch his earlier videos
I did drive a slightly modded 2016 gti with the dsg tranny.. it had an exhaust and a cold air intake...that thing was a missile! burned thru 1st 2nd and some of 3rd just by stomping on it full from a start.. massive torque ,smooth as glass and high revving engine..unique in that the tiorque is available down low but the motor does Not flatten out and just revs to the moon,glass smooth... I do think it was More modified than a simple intake exhaust..felt quicker than a 370z..seat of the pants felt like 300hp in that tiny body.. total thrill ride...bet the one I drove could easily match that elatra or even beat it...the gti in this vid was Nothing like the one I drove
It varies from dealer to dealer they treated me great despite not having any credit history at all at the time manged to leave with a veloster N with the performance package just gotta find the right dealer which is hard
VW could easily put a different chip in the GTI to achieve the same HP and torque ratings as the Elantra N, but they won't do it. That would cut into their annual upgrade path. Plus. they need to keep a certain distance from the Golf R to justify the price difference. One thing for sure, V Dub gives nothing away.
Elantra n was dynoed and made it's 285bhp figure at the wheel's. So factoring in drive train loss and would make around 305bhp not 285 like Hyundai claim . But vw sand bag their hp figures to , 2022 gti makes 260whp .
Well I know for a fact the kona N launches better off the line with launch control better than both the veloster and the elantra N somehow so the results are probably going to be the same but I still can't wait
@@buildmorefarms1007 yeah I saw i was shocked I mean I know out of all the N cars the kona is the 3rd slowest N car available but still I own a veloster N myself I just didn't know there was such a difference in speed between the 3 N cars
Korean manufacturers (and Chinese soon) have come a long way... In term of performance, price, look and interiors, European brands can barely keep up now.
Damn. As much as I hate to admit it Hyundai is not playing games with that N badge. Car may be ugly and cheap but it is fast as hell. I would love to see this car against the new BMW 230i. I wonder if the N can even keep up with an LT1 Camaro. I ain’t kidding, that thing is stupid fast for a mid $30k car. The new GTI is no slouch from a roll and that looked really bad for VW.
It's not keeping up with an LT1, unless it's a manual, with a driver that is only average. And that's on a dig. With an auto, yea, not gonna even be close, it's almost a full second faster in a quarter mile. If anyone's in Houston, Texas with an Elantra N reading this, we can put this to the test, I have a manual LT1.
@@GoDsSoN770 yeah you are right. I just RUclipsd a CTR vs an SS and it was a massacre on behalf of the Camaro. The Camaro would destroy anything with a 4 cylinder on the market. It isn’t even close.
@@GoDsSoN770 Have an EN and did a rolling start against a current gen auto V6 and I pulled on him but barely, and i mean barely, I was def inching ahead tho before we let off
The car I was deadset on getting was the new 230i w M sport and dynamic handling package but after comparing it to the EN the performance was too close. I got more features, more power for 12k US less. Its not a BMW thats for sure but again, $12k.....
@@SamCarLegion Let me add that I'm a single dad of a 3 yr old and I'm in Chicago where the winters suck! I drove the Elantra, but it doesn't have the manners of the K5 and Sonata. Considering a GT Line Stinger.
I think he chose the GTI because it is a similar price point. I’d still take the GTI over the N. It may be slower but the GTI looks way better and likely drives much better for a daily. The N sacrifices a lot in order to deliver that performance on a budget.
@@postalpancho The N doesn't sacrifice anything lol. I own the EN and the Veloster N. Both are easy to live with. The various drive modes and suspension setups allow them to be very versatile for daily, race and track use.
@@jasoncasto910 considering a base Elantra drives like shit I doubt what you are saying. Your going to tell me that the N with its stiffer bushings and springs drives more comfortable? I doubt it and you need to drive a BMW or Audi in order to understand what I am saying. Your being bias because you own one and you don’t know any better. People buying the N are likely former Civic Si and Scion TC owners. Nobody is going to downgrade from a 340i.
A stock base model Elantra is a crap comparison considering it's a different chassis and I'm not bias at all. I'm a car guy. I like many different vehicles. I've had many different vehicles and the new N's are a ton of car for the money.
@@irockz9723 Faster depreciation, faster going to the junk yard after a few years, and you will be canceled really quick, when arrive at the any official meeting with your riced up economy Korean wanna be German sports car. 🤣
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What did you guys think of the 360 camera?
was great
Works really well, great idea. Less dramatic than the drone but being attached it obviously makes a difference.
Liked it
Great angles!
Great addition.
That was funny when the gti owner said it's only 1 car instead of 6 cars 🤣 it was more like 3 cars from a roll
Well he didn't specify what kind of car. Could have been 1 super, super stretch Escalade limo. 😉
Golf R will the job lol
@@joshuapounds7646 I think it will one hell of a race
@@thekingandi1705 This guy knows
@@scottroberts5529 yeah bc a stock car vs a tuned car is fair
Gotta give the Elantra props for the exhaust. Sounds great for a 4 banger!
And for beating nearly everything it races against by a wide margin!
A buddy of mine actually thought it was a v6 at idle.
Wow! that Elantra N is no joke. The ass hauling is legit. Congrats again Nem on a great car. Sam, love seeing the cap - thank you for that! It suits you perfectly!
Gotta do the N community proud! 💪🏾
Come on man it's didn't go up against it's real competor the GTI R. The R will smack that N
@@dillonrenzi4240 Golf R
Hyundai been nailing it lately with their new cars
@@dillonrenzi4240 how is the R the real competitor. It’s so much more expensive and awd
The determination in bruh face looks like he's driving a Tesla Plaid 😂😂 I love it 💪🏾💪🏾
Lol I was fighting for traction my guy 😂
THAT ELANTRA MORE FUN THAN PLAID
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@@Ems-w4l haha drive a plaid and come back
@@GoFast865 I heard plaid has brake fluid heating issues from the factory, is this true?
Wow! I didn’t think the N would walk the GTI that hard holy poop. 360 camera was super cool.
Surprised so many people are surprised lol. The N has a bunch more power and it’s WAAAAY underrated. Over 300 for sure. I have an MK8 with an intake and it’s quick, but it’s no N. Wait for tunes to come and then it’ll be a more fair fight. Great vid!!
PS: VW’s transmission is DSG 😊
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My god. Who knew that the VW GTI never even had a chance....not even a little chance. I thought it would be close with having the Elantra N with the edge. The Elantra N looked like it was in a whole different category/league compared to the GTI. Perhaps, Elantra N-Line vs the GTI??? Sam, another great video. Keep up the good work!
The N line wouldn’t even be close to a Mk8 or Mk7. The Full N is like an entirely different car compared to the N line. Kind of wish the N line and Civic si made more power to compete with the Gti, since they don’t make the 250hp veloster N anymore
@@PapiAndrey Agree the GTI is a different category than the Elantra N-Line. Yes, the GTI would definitely beat the Elantra N-Line. It would be interesting to see by how much or how bad.
Good call. GTI is a step above the 201HP N-Line, but lighter N-Line v GTI is likely a MUCH more competitive race than what we just saw here.
A better comparison would be the Elantra N 6spd manual vs the GTI DSG.
@@mikedaleiden7725 no it would not be more competitive. The N-line makes 180whp 😂 that’s 100whp less than the N, plus a gearbox that isn’t as good, tuning that isn’t as aggressive, worse gearing, worse tires.
I worked at Hyundai before and I’ve driven both cars, there’s a huge difference. It would be interesting against a Mk6 Gti or Gli
"Think I'm gonna let you roll in a Hyundai?"
Hyundai: And I took that personally
It's just in the heat of competition. Don't be trolls. The roll was 2 car lengths. More from a dig. Both cars advertised hp is actually closer to that at the wheels. I've seen several dynos for both.
Just purchased my 2022 GTI dsg and love it. But I'm a car guy first. My GTI is just as fun to drive as my 5.7L R/T Charger Blacktop Edition but with better MPG. I knew the Elantra N was going to eat it. C&D clocked the Elantra N at 13.8 @ 105mph but the trap doesn't jive. That car should be 13.4 ish. C&D also charted the GTI at 13.6 @ 104mph so you guys get my point. Elantra N is goddamn quick. Reliability is tbd. Not sure on it's availability and interior/exterior styling will not be for everyone.
"Normal GTI" is no match for N Hyundai cars (Elantra N or I30N). But here in Europe we have GTI Clubsport 45 with 290ps...I think that it would be a good match for Elantra
It’s almost like they have to put the lower spec car out there to prove the Hyundai is the better car.
@@Buck3366
Yeah, how dare they not choose a car that isn't available in that country. Or a car that cost almost 10k more.
@@2010ngojo Your math is off. Quote : Prices start from £37,215 - up from the £33,460 starting figure of the standard GTI. So less than 5000 USD. It’s not a case of how dare they it’s more of a case of WHY BOTHER ? A 50hp advantage was a forgone conclusion. Oh and UK prices of the new I30N 280 hatch, which is basically a trunkless Elantra, are now £35000+ so £2000 within a CS GTI. I’d say they are very comparable on price and stats in this country. I’m not here to hate or kick off I’m just stating I saw it as a somewhat unfair pairing.
@@Buck3366
No, I compare the golf r to the elantra n for price. No point in comparing the i30n which is not available in North America. Or compare the elantra n to the gti clubsport when the elantra is not available in those regions. My point still stands.
@@2010ngojo I think the specs on this elantra are very underrated. I drive an 21 a5 sb, about 280hp and 320lbft(JB4 map 2). It pulled on me from 80mph on the highway... Not sure if he had some tune or not, but after watching these videos(it beats the Golf R also - Sam has a video on that).... this little car goes:)
I'm VW all day but it got spanked bad. Fun to see so many companies making quick cars.
The Elantra N is on another level 🔥
It has more power!!! Uhhhhh!!!
@@Alfra1324 but 200 pounds heavier too, consider that!
yes, it's called the top of the podium..😂😂
Not a fair fight, but always love seeing the EN showing off. Loved the 360 camera and some of the new editing styles you’ve done. Great work Sam.
In Australia the Golf is significantly more expensive than the Elantra/i30N so I would say this is pretty fair.
It's fair to compare them base on pricing. But I guess it's just not a fair game base one performance.
GTI might feel more upscale, but the bang per dollar is way better with the EN.
@@shayana6918 yeah same in the us. i got the elantra n for 34,400 usd and the new vw are going for over 40k
Why is it not a fair fight?
Not fair? Derrrrrrp
Great runs. Just like the k5GT, the elentra N is underrated.
K5 gt is slow 🐌
Good ole German gentlemen breaking their agreement 😂
@@tonymansour3578 compared to the hellcat....yes it is.
@@SiriasisOFFICIAL there's always something faster.
@@tonymansour3578 slow? C/D was able to *average* 0-60 at 5 seconds flat in the sonata n line lol. Not only that but the EN took 6.1 seconds from 5-60 and the sonata did it in 5.2. The Sonata N Line/K5 GT are *not* slow. I have owned the snl and I own the EN now.
Mans in the elantra was serious about smoking that Golf. You can see the determination in his face
Man, the Elantra N is such a cool car for the price range.
Yeah...if it actually cost MSRP lol. I haven't seen these for anything less than $40k, most are $45k from what I have seen.
@@alexcastaneda7761 rather have a golf R at that price
@@alexcastaneda7761 , my friend just bought one last week for $35K. Why are you lying?
@@Soul_Flow_ Have you been living under a rock? Dealers are marking these up. I don't know where "your friend" is from, but in Texas, every single Hyundai dealer I have called has added a huge markup to the Elantra N. Least amount I was told was $40k. If "your friend" managed to get it for MSRP, good on them... they got really lucky. That does not make what I said untrue.. Texas car dealers are greedy.
@@alexcastaneda7761 yeah you guys are getting screwed. Az dealers were doing like 3K mark up at most. A lot were less. Mine was no markup.
No one else is doing these races, thanks Sam!
Look up U drags
Once again, a great race and a great time at the strip with you guys!
You made us fellas in the EN community proud.
Even as a VN owner, I'm proud! Plus the representation.✊🏾I love it!
@@themagicalaries 💪🏾💪🏾
Great runs.
Now put it up against a golf R 🤔
Love the camera angles and of course we all know how underrated the Elantra N is. Glad I picked up a used MK 7.5 for alot cheaper than the 8
Same. Sitting on a 21 gti dsg with almost 10k on her. Love the car but holding off on the r turbo upgrade after seeing this car and the and Carolla we will be getting soon
@@WE3EZ I'm waiting on the Garrett turbo upgrade to be released for the 7.5
just picked the mk 7.5 up recently?
@@redandblack1911 I picked mine up on Memorial Day this year
@@theresellinghusband what did you pay MK7.5 selling prices seem inflated..
the elantra got a lot of use out of his rear view mirrors in these races
The way that Elantra N engine is underrated is ridiculous, similar to the K5 GT. Those likely put down 290 wheel HP.
Maybe they had typo and forgot to put word WHEEL in there. Lol. Seen some guy pull similar wheel horsepower on dyno.
Sorry they do not make 290 wheel hp. Crank yes
@@johnsmith1034 well i mean dyno they do have 280whp
I still think the Elantra would win but something seems off about that mk8. It seems significantly slower than the other stock mk8 gti I’ve seen in drag races like when carwow did it
oh did they pit the mk8 gti vs the i30n or something if so the i30n is the 3rd slowest out of the N cars even with the dct the others all have a faster 0 to 60 time then it does i imagine why thats why they are not going to bring that car here no use bringing a car thats slower than the other models that we have over here unless they take off some of that weight it has
Car and Driver has the 1/4mi and trap speeds for these cars at almost exactly the same; however, that’s with a DSG GTI and a manual Elantra N. I wasn’t expecting this much of a killing from the DCT EN but damn that car is fast. I think the tuning in the DSG or the traction control is worse than that in the DCT Elantra, and it’s really letting the GTI down.
Wrong car and driver tested the MANUAL Elantra N they haven’t tested the DCT EN which is much much quicker
@@Tsand4 That’s what I said. The manual Elantra N was tested to be as fast as a DSG Mk8 GTI. Ik the DCT is faster, but I wasn’t expecting this much faster.
@@BrownSofaGamer my bad l read it wrong lol🤦🏻♂️
@@Tsand4 It’s cool. I really want to see timed test results for the DCT Elantra N too, because it should put down some impressive numbers for “under 300hp” and FWD.
@@BrownSofaGamer there’s videos up on RUclips of it running like 13.2@107-108 at the drag strip bone stock.
What's going on with the 1-2 shift in the GTI. Looks and sounds like a 90's era automatic shifting
There is an issue with this car... it does not work like that.
The Elantra N is just a monster wow I am like considering buying this car I don’t think there’s anything for the money faster or better New
Volkswagen GTI Clubsport?
Thanks for the video. There is another channel that raced a Kona N vs MK8 GTI and they finished dead even. You're video kinda shows that wasn't an accurate race so thank you. (P.s. I really am digging the refreshed GTI look!)
he is paid by Hyundai to hype the cars up.....but the car it should be matched against is the clubsport.
That video was stupid asf and started to actually make people think the gti had a better top end 🤦♂️
@@mattsmith7379 source?
Aww Golf fans are hurting!
@@mattsmith7379 You saw the contract, or are you just a sore VW fan?
Finally this was the one I was waiting for! Keep up the good work guys!
Good video. The cars pulling up to the line that many times, was a little much.
im so happy i went for the Elantra N this korean german car is a blast !!
Love everything about the Elantra N except the front grill
I own an intense blue and it blends well...looks good. Cyber Space grey and white not as good
Love the videos man! I have an EN(dct) myself and the car is beast for its price range, I have ran a few r/t chargers and challengers against my Elantra N and this car has absolutely been destroying people and blowing everyone’s mind, would love to see a proper race between some pure muscle up against it to see what the Elantra can handle!
Sam based on this video the older GLI seems to be faster than the new GTI. Can you race them against eachother ?
Something is definitely weird about how the Mk8 GTI is launching. I think the owners explanation of wheel hop might be correct, but really it just seems like they made the traction control stay on more in sport traction.
This mk8 is just a dud
@@Volks2462 It could be. When Carwow was racing the Mk8, it seemed to be hooking up really well. However, the tuning in the EU market cars could be slightly different.
@Bry Zeer the GLI stock preformed better than the GTI did
What were the tires?
These camera angles are absolutely amazing
Something is wrong with that GTI. It should NOT be dipping into 2nd gear with such a freeze.
Agree!
Totally! Second gear taking longer than when my wife shifts our manual
Was looking for this comment. The 1-2 shift was messing up every time.
Launch control on stock GTI's suck. It bogs at the beginning always.
yeah anyone thats driven a vw dct would agree
Hyundai is 290 horsepower, so it would be fair to try it with the golf gti clupsport and not the GTi which has 45 fewer horses
That's what's I say many times bring the LSD 😈
Nah you are just mad because a Hyundai Korean economy car is better than the German performance oriented car!
Also dat clupsport start at 15k more expensive than that of Elantra, so not a fair race and no one in their right mind will agree on doing it.
@@hasanfadhil6404 we are talking about horsepower no body said which one recommend for your balance
@@SLMZ8 I don't care about HP I go by how much it cost with the same features.
@@SLMZ8 and don't forget about the warranty, you get 4 years basic and 4 years powertrain, the Elantra N on the other hand 5 years basic and 10 years powertrain.
Lol @ Nems face 😂 looks like he's being affected by G forces. He can star in new top gun movie.
New video format is very slick, don't know if we need the roll up to the line for every race.
That new GTI looks really good aesthetically inside and out. Especially the rims.
Background music fits too. Thanks for vid! 360 camera is amazing more of that please always love those angles
Loool bro I was fighting the left side of the track for traction and trying to keep the wheel straight. You know how it be 😂
@@n2productions relatable 😂😂
Wow! I am surprised but not surprised. I knew the Elantra N would take it but was very surprised by how the GTI was completely embarrassed. The Elantra N is no joke. Great video, Sam!
Agreed I knew the N would beat the gti but it was a much larger gap than I thought it would be. Id like to see a stock mk7 golf R against the N
@@vroomgc I think many may be surprised the Elantra N may beat the Golf R. The Elantra N is lighter in weight and is definitely pushing more than 276hp stock.
The n would spank an mk7 r on a roll. But would be closer over the qtr. mk7 R’s are not overly lively stock.
@@joelmccoy6474 Nope. The Elantra N has been tracked at mid to high 13's for the 1/4 mile. The Golf R does low 13's. So the R would beat it. And 0-60 times are 5.2 to 4.5 for the R. This is all searchable data
@@vroomgc not interested in a long back and forth. I’ve Owned 2 out of the three cars in question. The n would comfortably pull on an mk7 R on a roll. Not from a dig to 100km/h/ 62mph as AWD obviously makes it consistently faster from a launch. The roll though as i said the n would walk away from a stock mk7 R.
The little intro to the races reminds me of the video game cutscenes before the 1v1s
EN easily smoked vw and i think vw R should be instade of gti
Thanks Mr Carlegion ♥️♥️
This elantra n is crazy. I want to see it smoke the new wrx in a race from a dig and roll.
It already did in an Edmunds video.
Great video as always!! What’s the price of the GTI? Isn’t it like almost 40k?
The Elantra N is almost $40k with a DCT too. The GTI has an MSRP of $30k but an Autobahn like the one in the video with DSG is also probably close to $40k. They’re very similar priced cars, but if Toyota can keeps its promise of a low $30k MSRP then it could steal the market from both of these with the GR Corolla.
Elantra n is 35k with dct
@@BrownSofaGamer the GTI should be competing against the likes of a Honda Civic Si, the elantra N peers would be the Golf R, The Type R, the Corolla GR, and the Veloster N, price wise the Hyundais are priced very competitively. I however wise they had more KIA designers. Both Hyundai cars have a very hit or miss design for people, KIA imo has a more elegant if you may style. The stinger GT, the Genesis G70/G80, the K5 GTs are all beautiful cars imo.
@@jonathanm5742 The GTI stands head and shoulders above the Civic Si. It makes almost 50 extra hp, and 70 extra lb/ft of torque
@@lizardgreen2121 Good luck finding one for $35k all the one I’ve seen at dealers are marked close to $40k or at $40k.
Can't wait to get my N this summer
The 360 camera is brilliant. I can't wait to see it used on races that are a bit closer than this. Not to mention your story telling, finesse and overall quality of the videos is getting so good!!!
Also there was maybe 60m between the two vehicles at the line on the digs. A Boeing 747 in the most optimal conditions needs about 1500m to land. You sir, lied and I'm unsubscribing :P - Kevin
Wow Sam great production!! The 360 camera was better than the usual fromt and back.
Everybody crying that the GTI isn’t the N’s competition is delusional. They’re in the same price bracket. Small and sporty. The Golf R is 10k more expensive. That’s not comparable. Do you want a faster, more raw and unrefined ride( and not as good looking)? Or do you want a more well rounded(no pun😁) feature laden, daily driver with more long term tuning possibilities? But the AWD R isn’t in the same class.
You understand, both great cars but different flavours. I wouldn’t consider them direct competition, I’d say the Type R is a closer competitor to the N. The GTI seems to be in its own semi-luxurious category of hot-hatch. The Golf R is a super hot-hatch, and would definitely smoke both cars lol
They don’t compete. A Gti cs would be the N’s competition. These two are both underrated, they make their rated numbers at the wheels.
Gti tested at 240whp and the EN tested at 285whp.
Look at the specs, the Gti clubsport is much closer to the N. Money doesn’t dictate if the cars compete, it’s how similar they are
@@PapiAndrey cars compete against eachother in price brackets. Some cars just punch above there weight. Shit the GTI is more expensive then the EN they can touch 40k.
@@Tsand4 the N punches above its weight in terms of power, but definitely not near the quality and prestige of the GTI. I drive long commutes so the GTI was a no brainer in comparison to the Elantra N. I track my cars maybe once or twice a year so it wasn’t worth going with the ultra stiff ride quality of the N. What I’m trying to say is comparing these vehicles based on pricing can be pretty irrelevant considering they’re differences
@@ImranKhan-mi4bh the only thing the GTI has over the N is slightly higher quality interior materials. The EN is perfectly fine to daily drive in comfort mode. The EN is much quicker handles much better has way more feel has a better DCT better sounding exhaust. Better LSD with true torque vectoring…..WAY WAY better infotainment. But yet the GTI costs 5k more with any options. I don’t think some better materials are worth 5k. Your trying to say the EN is just quicker when in reality it’s better at everything besides some materials and being a little stiffer then GTI. But a lot of people complain the GTI is to soft/numb.
What is with the horrible delay between the 1-2 shift on the GTI? Takes a whole second just to shift into gear.
That Elantra is hell! Next test...Golf R!!
in Germany the GTI did 250 - 260 HP on the dyno.
No way it makes that much wheel HP on the Dyno.
@@andrewwerdna9868 not wheel, engine HP. Here in Europe we only talk engine HP and not wheel HP because the wheel HP is different. FWD and RWD cars looses less HP as a AWD car and it makes a different whether the car has a manuel or different autom. transmission.
@@alengreen589 how would you get an accurate reading at the engine on a dyno, when a dyno reads at the wheels or hubs? Power at the wheels is what matters.
@@andrewwerdna9868 maybe in the US is it that so but here in Europe we look at the engine max. HP output and not at the wheel HP.
New Golf GTI va new Mazda 3 Turbo would be an interesting race to see
Will make it happen
@@SamCarLegion stoked to hear!
Yes it would be good to watch, on a roll the gti should have it but on a dig I think the mazda wins
It’ll be close. AWD V. DSG.
@@vroomgc The GTI should be the faster car both ways, the 3 might be easier to launch because of the awd.
I noticed the camera work of the video was changed like old Need for Speed game and I like it:)
I think the Elantra N can make a real comparison to a golf MK8 clubsport and not a golf MkR.
Front-wheel drive has to compete with front-wheel drive. Even if the golf clubsport has 300hp against the 280hp of the Elantra.
It’s coming
Elantra N vs WRX (2022). Please.
The 360 camera is awesome. Would love to see some Kona N race :) ( Own a black Kona N )
soon
when is the Gti planning on racing. maybe it's designed to video the Hyundai from the rear
Sam has no specific time for his videos anytime he find two cars second later video update lmao Sam is killing it 🤣
Manual to manual would be much better?
Love the unique filing here. Very creative.
How many races and no mention of ECS settings? Even the roll races, no mention of what of what gear they're in? You guys need to watch CarWow or any channel that does proper drag races. The GTI probably would have done better with ESC set in "sport" instead of active or off.
You know what you should do? You should have a view showing one car pull up to the line and stop, and then show the other car pull up to the line and stop. Can't believe you didn't show that 🙄
Oh wait....
Two great hothatches love the video thankyou Sam carlegion
Glad you enjoyed it
I've own a GTI as well as other cars. The new GTI does quarter miles in 13.5 seconds but the Hyundai Electra n does quarter miles in 13.1 seconds. Plus it actually make 100 HP more than the GTI.
Actually you are wrong. 2022 MK8 GTI makes just over 240 WHP and 2022 Elantra N just over 280WHP.
Nice camera ♥. The elentra n is a beast.
Sheesh those were the biggest gaps I've seen on this channel in awhile. Hyundai is definetly underrating power, that N is somewhere in the 300s. As a fan and customer of both VW & Hyundai, I already know what the reaction from the VW guys will be like lol. Also, congrats to your dude for getting married!
Golf R will do the job for the GTI
@@joshuapounds7646 yea it’ll also be 10-15k more expensive. Even a loaded GTI is 5k more then the EN. A golf r is 50k territory.
@@Tsand4 Gti DSG S trim is more than enough loaded with stuff and it is 32k USD. GOLF R is 46 k loaded.
Good video again.👍🏼👏🏼😉🙂
Does it split Volkswagen DSG dual clutch transmission software or traction control system?. 🤔
Is the Golf GTI lighter, than the Elantra N because the power difference (241 hp vs 286hp) between them is quite large?.🤔
The VW Golf GTI should have been a 300hp (R/Club Sport) model, or is this already a four-wheel drive model?. 🤔
The white text over the green bar (when doing the horsepower specs) was a bit hard to see. My advice would be to add a thicker black bordering around the text/font to make it easier to read against different colour backgrounds.
Man that's hard to believe. The GTI couldn't put the power down well. Was electronic slip also disabled? The Elantra certainly get's up and moves though!
This video seems like something just wasn’t right… should’ve left it in S rather than using paddles, and should leave traction in ESC Sport for the best results
We need to see the gr yaris going against the Elantra N
Elntra vs corolla , same category
Love that color on that N
Good race Sam and good camera angle. Try EN vs Golf R next or EN vs k5GT/Sonata nline since you already did the stinger gt.
I dont think that would be fair vs the 22 MK8 golf R. that has a listed 1/4 mile of 12.3 vs the Elantra N 13.8, not from a dig, the Golf Rs AWD would destroy the FWD cars. A roll race would be more interesting.
@@jonathanm5742 That EN was pretty close to the stinger gt and Type R. It should be able to keep up or take the Golf R.
@@dwayneobas9095 have you seen the clip of the type r racing a golf r from a dig? It put a mile on the Type R, it wasn’t even a race. It’s on carwow
@@dwayneobas9095 given that the type r and the Elantra N have raced on this channel
I expect the EN to be butchered by the mk8
@@velocitywot9573 I don't know about butchered, maybe by a little. The Elantra N is no joke. We just have to wait and see.
Based on the stocked specs, what was the point of this race?
That Kia GT guy has come back for blood 😂🔥
You know it ;)
@@n2productions 😂. nice race my guy
ppl shouldnt be surprised by this. GTI is not the all out performance hatch that would be the Clubsport. GTI is a great daily with crazy tuning capabilities but out the box it is a lux sport hatchback.
All the engine internals and the transmission are from GOLF R and Clubsport . GOlf GTi will be around 300 WHP with just a tune, and bullet proof.
GTI for sale
Haha
@@SamCarLegion you need to stop with these false videos already its making you look sus. when other videos out there show different outcomes of similar match ups.
@@mattsmith7379 your really butt hurt bro...the real question is...how much is VW paying YOU. Sam is a lot but he doesn't do HMG any favors, watch his earlier videos
@@mattsmith7379 You 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
so amazing, hyundai N is awesome!!
I love how they were making all the excuses why the gti didn't perform as well as the Elantra N😂😅😂
Excuses? I can tell you right off the bat, Elantra has more power
I did drive a slightly modded 2016 gti with the dsg tranny.. it had an exhaust and a cold air intake...that thing was a missile! burned thru 1st 2nd and some of 3rd just by stomping on it full from a start.. massive torque ,smooth as glass and high revving engine..unique in that the tiorque is available down low but the motor does Not flatten out and just revs to the moon,glass smooth... I do think it was More modified than a simple intake exhaust..felt quicker than a 370z..seat of the pants felt like 300hp in that tiny body.. total thrill ride...bet the one I drove could easily match that elatra or even beat it...the gti in this vid was Nothing like the one I drove
Only issues with these Ns are the dealership sales and service treatment of Hyundai owners.
Absolutely. That was my experience.
Terrible service situation. Then get h0sed on trade in. Pass
It varies from dealer to dealer they treated me great despite not having any credit history at all at the time manged to leave with a veloster N with the performance package just gotta find the right dealer which is hard
representing albania from toronto ! love the tattoo and the content ! much love
1 car length? 🤣🤣🤣 that was at least 4 car length
The launch control on the VW sound like it's running on 3 cylinders 😂😂😂😂
elantra ❤️ my love
bye bye Golf 😄😄
VW could easily put a different chip in the GTI to achieve the same HP and torque ratings as the Elantra N, but they won't do it. That would cut into their annual upgrade path. Plus. they need to keep a certain distance from the Golf R to justify the price difference. One thing for sure, V Dub gives nothing away.
The Elantra N’s suspension looks annoyingly stiff. The driver looked like he was inside a pinball game.
That's N mode for you lol. Other modes are perfectly livable
Is it possible that these N cars have more power than being advertised?
Definitely
@@SamCarLegion purchased a Kona N a few months ago. It is quick!
Elantra n was dynoed and made it's 285bhp figure at the wheel's.
So factoring in drive train loss and would make around 305bhp not 285 like Hyundai claim .
But vw sand bag their hp figures to , 2022 gti makes 260whp .
@@davidgriggs3967 Negative, MK8 GTi makes just above 240 WHP on different dynos, EN just over 280 WHP.
better comparison may have been the Hyundai Kona N versus the GTI
Well I know for a fact the kona N launches better off the line with launch control better than both the veloster and the elantra N somehow so the results are probably going to be the same but I still can't wait
@@ArcticN and yet the GTi won vs the Kona N in Sam's other video.
@@buildmorefarms1007 yeah I saw i was shocked I mean I know out of all the N cars the kona is the 3rd slowest N car available but still I own a veloster N myself I just didn't know there was such a difference in speed between the 3 N cars
Korean manufacturers (and Chinese soon) have come a long way... In term of performance, price, look and interiors, European brands can barely keep up now.
Let’s see the k5 gt vs the n
Would love to see 2022 Toyota 86 vs 2022 Gulf GDI
i like the seats in the Elantra and it seems pretty quick. The only drawback is it will probably be spitting out main bearings like other hyundai's...
You don't like car fires lol
@@justingravelle3649 yea they catch fires occasionally, but their turbo engines are trash.Transmissions OMG...stay away
Awesome video thanks again Sam 👏
Damn. As much as I hate to admit it Hyundai is not playing games with that N badge. Car may be ugly and cheap but it is fast as hell. I would love to see this car against the new BMW 230i. I wonder if the N can even keep up with an LT1 Camaro. I ain’t kidding, that thing is stupid fast for a mid $30k car. The new GTI is no slouch from a roll and that looked really bad for VW.
It's not keeping up with an LT1, unless it's a manual, with a driver that is only average. And that's on a dig. With an auto, yea, not gonna even be close, it's almost a full second faster in a quarter mile. If anyone's in Houston, Texas with an Elantra N reading this, we can put this to the test, I have a manual LT1.
@@GoDsSoN770 yeah you are right. I just RUclipsd a CTR vs an SS and it was a massacre on behalf of the Camaro. The Camaro would destroy anything with a 4 cylinder on the market. It isn’t even close.
@@postalpancho You have the link to that video? I wanna see lol.
@@GoDsSoN770 Have an EN and did a rolling start against a current gen auto V6 and I pulled on him but barely, and i mean barely, I was def inching ahead tho before we let off
The car I was deadset on getting was the new 230i w M sport and dynamic handling package but after comparing it to the EN the performance was too close. I got more features, more power for 12k US less. Its not a BMW thats for sure but again, $12k.....
My fav channel. I'm looking to sell or trade my 2022 Sapphire Blue K5 GT. what should I get?
Elantra N or Kona N
@@SamCarLegion Let me add that I'm a single dad of a 3 yr old and I'm in Chicago where the winters suck! I drove the Elantra, but it doesn't have the manners of the K5 and Sonata. Considering a GT Line Stinger.
@@jamesivan1983 definitely a stinger!!!
No comparison, it should be the R instead of GTI but hey that was a fun video Sam, can't wait for that IS500 v Stinger video 🤙🤙😁
I think he chose the GTI because it is a similar price point. I’d still take the GTI over the N. It may be slower but the GTI looks way better and likely drives much better for a daily. The N sacrifices a lot in order to deliver that performance on a budget.
@@postalpancho The N doesn't sacrifice anything lol. I own the EN and the Veloster N. Both are easy to live with. The various drive modes and suspension setups allow them to be very versatile for daily, race and track use.
@@jasoncasto910 considering a base Elantra drives like shit I doubt what you are saying. Your going to tell me that the N with its stiffer bushings and springs drives more comfortable? I doubt it and you need to drive a BMW or Audi in order to understand what I am saying. Your being bias because you own one and you don’t know any better. People buying the N are likely former Civic Si and Scion TC owners. Nobody is going to downgrade from a 340i.
A stock base model Elantra is a crap comparison considering it's a different chassis and I'm not bias at all. I'm a car guy. I like many different vehicles. I've had many different vehicles and the new N's are a ton of car for the money.
@@postalpancho It's also funny that you "assume" my ownership history. You have no clue of all the vehicles I've owned 😂
the Hyundai's new wet DCT is just godly
Hello everyone, the next race could be between the Corolla GR and the Elantra N, how about
Excellent video and demonstration.
And people really thought the gti would be close hahah
Been telling people for ages, the i30n,Elantra N,Kona N etc are faster than a GTi but they never believe me 🤣😏
@@irockz9723 Faster depreciation, faster going to the junk yard after a few years, and you will be canceled really quick, when arrive at the any official meeting with your riced up economy Korean wanna be German sports car. 🤣
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 I like how the guy in the Elantra N is just smiling away lolol