“Has Sam got a manual” is one of the most iconic moments in Carwow history. Didn’t know I needed this, but now I’m going to push it and ask for every variant of R. From the VR6 to the current R.
In South Africa, they only stopped production of the MK1 shape in 2010. So you had a classic looking car with modern fuel injection, abs, airbags, and for Rory, air-conditioning. It was my favourite car ever. The Golf Velocity 1.4i and gave me 20km per litre. 😊
Had a MK5 manual with the high speed body kit package. Did GIAC software, full exhaust including down pipe, k&n intake, greddy rs blow off valve, then also engine and transmission mounts upgraded. Hit a gps confirmed 186mph and still had room to go. One of my favorite cars to date and it was a blast seeing Sam show the unknown magic it has haha
The MK3 isn’t a 16v, it’s the 8v version 115bhp, I’ve got a 16v 150bhp, mk3 16v has ABF engine 8v has AGG I think, there’s a big difference performance wise
Cometieron una equivocacion utilizaron el golf mk2 de 16v 129hp vs el mk3 8v 115hp , el mk3 16v 150hp tenia que estar alli, para los que buscan estos modelos tendran una falsa realidad 😢
I have a mk5 gti with the dsg auto and I got to say its one of my favourite cars I have driven, I love the handling, braking, gear shifts, everything. Its truly one of the best gti's ever
My first car and I think it spoiled me with the fast shifting dsg. I think manuals are kind of overrated tbh, some people think its all or nothing. If you compare to some 4 speed auto alternative that can't build power, sure a manual is better and makes sense. But I think a good auto isn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be. Always having both hands on wheel to be in contact with the road is a plus.
@@darklordsauron3415the only thing a manual has going for it these days is that you may still be able to shift even if slight problems occur whereas an auto might just throw a code and refuse to work at all. And there have been lots of Volkswagen DSGs that gave their owners expensive troubles. Other manufacturers experienced similar problems with their DTCs, including Ford with its PowerShift (or PowerShit) transmissions. A modern automatic with "manual mode" and a bridged torque converter can do everything better than probably 98% of all drivers would with a manual.
@@svenschwingel8632Ford use dry clutch on the powershift hence the law suits in the USA against them😅wet belt, dry clutch😂let’s be real the hero of the autos is the ZF8 box you just can’t beat it.. and you can run big power unlike most of the dsg boxes out there.
Agreed. Not sure why everyone hates on the MK4. I think it looks the best out of all of them. The newer ones forward all look like a Ford Focus or Toyota or something. That MK4 design is really sleek but definitely VW.
I had a used stage 2 mk4 on 22psi and it was a tank other than doing the water pump 2 times in a 5 year period. I would do full throttle pulls all day every day and it was the best, It would power through a foot of snow on back roads with bald tires like a snow plow, it just got too old and worn out at 200k to use it with a kid so I had to get rid of it
Reminds me of my grandpa, that man taught me half of things I know. God bless his soul, good memories. Also first car I've driven xD Must have stuck in my muscle memory, when I was buying my first car 15 years later, VW felt best under my hand, so that's what I took.
In the early 90's I had a friend with a MK1 Golf. Lowered on Neuspeed springs, Neuspeed front and rear swaybars, wider wheels and tires and more. This was when I learned how fun a slow car with a good suspension can be.
I had the 1983 1.8 gti with 14 inch rims and that little bastard was faster from 0 to 100 kmh than Clio 1.8 16v. Not by much... Tested. Miss that car...
0:55s Showing an 8v engine that does not belong in the Mk2 but referring to a 16v. The Mk2 Gti 8v and 16v both had K-Jetronic and not the injection shown in the clip and as far as I recall did not have the ali cam cover. Ali cam cover and that 8v engine only came in the Mk3. Could be wrong but that was the configuration in SA. But definately an 8v in the clip and not 16v.
Because they got the 25th Anniversary version with 6 speed manual and 4 wheel drive. And they didn't mention that it has a Turbocharger. That's why i don't watch Carwow vids, they are made for kids.
@@paulvisage3118having the MK5 on the highest spot is baffling for me. Apart from the MK8 the worst of the bunch. For me MK7(.5), MK4, MK1, MK2, MK3, MK6……………………MK5…….MK8
the best part of this video is the cars they've sourced. every single model the special edition, and in amazing condition! cant imagine the amount time that went into finding these
Such a timeless design and they drove absolutely lovely too, great turn in and lift off oversteer even in stock form. The diesels were great cars to be fair we know how good the PD engines are!
@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju Almost identical power to weight ratio, and the automatic in the MK7 will eat a bit of the power coming to the wheels so nothing unlogical happening here
this is because the mk5 and 6 is the edition 30/35 version with the bigger k04 turbos, whereas both the mk7/8 have the smaller turbos compared to their clubsport variants whcih have the bigger golf r turbos. Should have been mk5 ed30, mk6 ed35, mk7 clubsport, mk8 clubsport and it would be a different result.
@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju because he didn't use the clubsport versions of the mk7 and 8 which would have absolutely smoked the both the mk5 and 6 easily. I have a mk7 GTI with golf r turbo which is the same as the clubsports and its running 370hp and 510nm, its an animal.
Proud MK6 Owner since 2015, with w KO4 , a ECU-TCU Tune , KW COs, APR Cooling system and an enlarged intake with PCV delete and OZ Superleggera its a dream Start for any car enthusiast that has a small budget like mine
Dude awesome cars, I had the MK1 GTI 1.8 and then the MK2 16v... Loved em both had so much fun back in the 90's... If only I knew back then what I know now lol, I would have kept em both.. 👍👍
Loved my mk2 8v. Exhaust was music. Perfect air con. Sliding roof plus rear window adjustment in hot weather, no problem! Mad to have sold it. @@omerta2002
I love how these guys are starting to become our new Top Gear for this generation. Nothing will replace the OGs. More episodes like this and banter are making these top!
I've owned an MK2 and an MK5 at different times, and I loved both cars for what they were in their day. My favorite car from my past, without question, was the Acura Integra GS-R (DC2). That was a special, special vehicle to me, a very attainable, pure "drivers' car" in the truest sense. It got stolen from me after 3 years of ownership, but those years I had it stuck with me. A generational Integra / RSX battle would be fun to see.
@@marioelburro1492 it's giving you problems? The issue with mine was that it used to consume oil, but even from new. What's the problem with yours? Is it stock?
@@AdemyrDiaz I guess. He did one Alfa concept that was really good. Almost everything else he ever designed looks like generic 80s shot box #37. Even the expensive cars he designed like the Mercs look like generic shit boxes unless you already know better.
I am a Porsche 911 owner and collector and I choose to drive a Mk8 GTI as my daily driver. My last daily was a BMW M2C but in reality, the GTI is a far better daily performance car. It flys under the radar and handles razor sharp. Build quality might even be better in my 2024 GTI S than my 2020 M2C. Absolutely no rattling or creeks even in cold weather. The GTI feels so solid and well put together. I have other full size luxury vehicles from BMW in my collection but the DNA in this little GTI takes me back to my earlier air cooled 911 in it’s a drivers car that is pure German simplicity and oozes its German DNA. It doesn’t have vulgar silly wings in add-ons as other cars in the hot hatch category. It just works. Our last few Audi models from a RS3, S4, RS4, were nice but too heavy and rather expensive with annoying tech and mechanical issues always visiting the dealer. AWD might be faster off the line but heavy and less fun in general. The GTI climate control will freeze you out with its air AC and quickly heat up in winter. Set the GTI climate to auto and forget about it in all 4 seasons. Lastly, the GTi is a pure drivers car so once set up you don’t fiddle with the controls short of drive mode “Sport” or “individual”. That is the beauty of the GTI as it doesn’t need to be constantly adjusted like my BMW or Audis. It does what it does better than anything else in its class.
@@victorstefan3780 edition30 gti has a K04 turbo hence why you get 370hp on a stage 2+ tune. Normal Gti with K03 turbo gets those figures your on about 😉✊🏾
If that mk3 was the VR6 it would have made this segment way more interesting. We never had MK3 16v’s in the US. The 2.8 vr6 was the car to have for a long time. Still saught after.
As another 🇿🇦, this video sure blew my mind. Weird that the 3rd gen is that slow, heavier and less power than the 2nd😑, but then, the 6th gen still my favourite ❤
This video brings back such awesome memories from my childhood and this is the car that got me into becoming a petrolhead. My dad had a 1983 Mk1 GTI (Burgundy) with 15" BBS Hockenheims and a Zender front lower bumper. Everytime we drove in that car I begged my dad to race it 😂. He sold it eventually and upgraded to a 1998 VW Caddy Pick-up which had the 1.8 8v engine and it was a surprising little rocket ship. My dad currently owns an '06 Caddy Pickup and 2018 Tiguan Comfortline, I myself had a 2010 Mk1 CitiSport 1.4i which unfortunately got written off almost a year into ownership and since then I got a 2011 Polo vivo so VW runs strong in our family, 38 years and counting, but I'm now in the market to get a MkVI or MkVII manual GTI just for the sheer pleasure of experiencing what I experienced when I was a little 4 year old in the best hot hatch! 🇿🇦✌️
This MK3 is no 16V, the "16V" badge is missing and they clearly announce 115 hp, which is the power of the 8V. The 16V has 150. I had a 8V and got crushed by a MK1 just like in this video. A 16V would have been in front of the MK1 and MK2 and maybe even of the MK4, due to the lesser weight.
Came here for this. How hard would have been to find a 16v MK3? Or, at least, acknowledge in the fact that there is one. Quite unfair, especially as they're going with the 16v MK2.
I love the look of the Mk.4. I think most of the complaints about it are mechanical- and performance-based, not aesthetics. Even though it's not technically a GTI, I think the Mk.4 Golf R32 is one of the best looking Golf variants ever.
Better then the mk1-3 in design imo, people didn't like I guess cause it lacked the sporty handling and feel of the prior ones, which was fixed with the mk5.
@@rickydub6950he’s right, they have the wrong engines matched to the cars, you can see the mk2 headlights when he’s talking about the mk3. Was wondering if anyone else noticed that. Loved my Mk2 16v but the mk1 was awesome for zipping through town.
Wrong interior shots too. Showed the Mk3 interior on the Mk2 and the Mk2 interior on the Mk3. I laughed when Mat said "GTI 16V" then shows an 8V engine!
Proud owner of a MK5. It’s my 3rd MK5 GTI. It’s like every time I want to move on to something else, the MK5 just sucks me back in. I believe it is the best overall generation of GTI
Awesome race! Mk5 and Mk6 kept up fairly well to the Mk7.5! Context definitely important, the Mk5 and Mk6 aren’t the “regular” GTI’s, they are the edition 30 and 35 respectively, whereas the Mk7.5 and Mk8.5 are the “regular base” GTI’s. Although, the Mk7.5 is actually a performance pack. So not completely base. The equivalent Mk7 and Mk8 would be GTI Clubsport Edition 40 and 45 respectively.
This is why i think the mk5-8 races weren't entirely on equal footing. He should have used the base mk5 and 6 or used both clubsport versions of the mk7 and 8.
I dont care, for all the so called progress and massive sums of money the 7.5 and 8 cost id still expect it leaving a manual mk5 regardless if it was k04. modern tech and dsg has been embarrassed, the game just aint moved on as much as the marketing makes you think. They just sell you more boring screens now and autos
Had a red Mk5 in 2007-2010. Had it APR programmed to 250+hp and 400+NM. 6spd manual, was HUGE fun car and very quick. Also the kids named it Rory. Rory the red racing car. LOL. So cool to see this video.
My brother had a 2 door GT 1979, 2l abf motor,throttles the works, running on PURE AVGAS, PUSHING 135KW no turbo. Made gti mk7 look like it was going in reverse on the ¼mile. RSA BOYS WILL GO MAD FOR IT 🇿🇦
As a 50 years old man, I must admit that Golf I, Golf 2, and Golf 3 brought a happy smile on my face, reminding me of all those "childish" things we were doing. Golf 4... I kind of still like it, but there was no emotion involved. Golf 6 I will always associate with the crappy gear box!
You did no favours to the Mark III choosing the 115hp GTI lite version over the 150 which is an absolute rocketship😉 It would have definitely given the Mark IV a ran for it's money being lighter as well
Actually it was the150bhp version. You can see the 16V DOHC head in the video. I used to own one and wouldn't call it a rocket ship. 0-60 in 8.7 sec. Heavy and not exactly a fizzy engine.
I had a mk6 GTI for 2 years, too many problems. Timing chain, water pump, spark plugs, gearbox, turbo eventually needed replacing too. Sold it and got a mk6 GTD.
@@nigelboom3943 Spark plugs are consumables. Timing chains have to be done at around 110,000 miles and on any Golf of any generation you always ALWAYS do the waterpump when you do the cam belt or cam chain.
@@1dayumay548 One opinion versus 19 other opinions. Together this makes statistics, and a general consensus among the community. So how does it feel to be "wrong" in a sense?
I was fortunate enough to own a MKV GTI during my college years. Absolutely loved it. Was reliable and amazing fun to drive, and I still think it looks the best out of all the versions.
A bit of perspective - Matt says the Mk2 in 1991 cost £13,995 which would be equivalent to about £38,000 comparing with RPI (Retail Price Index). The 'same' price as the new (much better) one! 😳
@@ivordavies1828 there are many ways of measuring the difference in value over time - some make more sense than others! RPI is measuring against the price of goods in the shops and may better reflect the ability to spend than inflation which is more to do with the value of a currency.
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ha?
My Hyundai Getz could beat all those early generations cars
You should pull out the fuse to the cars with trc
If only in australia😢 is it only supposed to be the uk
Really?
“Has Sam got a manual” is one of the most iconic moments in Carwow history.
Didn’t know I needed this, but now I’m going to push it and ask for every variant of R. From the VR6 to the current R.
🎉
Add a Scirocco carwow and Passat r
Good luck because I did 389 days of asking and they didn’t do it, so they won’t listen to you
@@samedwards5171racing Passats would be very interesting, i see we add the Tiguan to the wishlist
They can borrow my (non-factory) MK2 VR6.
South Africans will go crazy for this one🇿🇦
𝐝𝐞𝐟𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐭𝐥𝐲 𝐢𝐯𝐞 𝐛𝐞𝐞𝐧 𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐟𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐛𝐫𝐚
Especially the Jozi boys🥳🇿🇦
I liked before watching. 🇿🇦
Especially the Jozi boys🥳🇿🇦
😑
Basically everyone in this episode: *talking*
Sam: Hahahaha!
Hallo AA Media
hey AA media
Matt made a mistake , zelenski F16😂 error
oh nurburbing guy
Carwow: racing ever Golf
MKBHD: reviewing every Samsung
Three generations later, the MK5 is still showing it's brothers a tough time.🇿🇦
U know my brother that car never disappoints
They had 2 use a dsg golf 5 like the others ..
Proud owner of a MK5. It’s my 3rd MK5 GTI. It’s like every time I want to move on to something else, the MK5 just sucks me back in
1:40 the legendary 5-Speed gearbox with 6 gears 😂 😂
😂
Yeah you got sharp eyes 👀
Hahahaha
Was about to post the same thing.. :-)
Here here!😂 replay it after he said manual 5 gear and I was like...wtf
In South Africa, they only stopped production of the MK1 shape in 2010. So you had a classic looking car with modern fuel injection, abs, airbags, and for Rory, air-conditioning. It was my favourite car ever. The Golf Velocity 1.4i and gave me 20km per litre. 😊
@@Flight-of-Life 🇿🇦🇿🇦
Is the 1.4 a TSi? (petrol turbo)
And how much do I have to pay to export one please?
How much of the mechanical components did they keep
now I want one. I've been looking for a mk1 for a while and to get one with all the new specs is absolutely a win
@@tysonchickennuggets Guess... Go on guess.. You'll never guess...
The excuses and the reversing at the end after the braking test were hilarious. 😂 Couldn't stop laughing
Why those Golf cars went reversing? Thats very funny.😅
😂😂😂😂
yeah, that was very funny. I've watched a lot of car vids, and haven't seen anything like that. lol
Had a MK5 manual with the high speed body kit package. Did GIAC software, full exhaust including down pipe, k&n intake, greddy rs blow off valve, then also engine and transmission mounts upgraded. Hit a gps confirmed 186mph and still had room to go. One of my favorite cars to date and it was a blast seeing Sam show the unknown magic it has haha
Still my favorite GTi all time
still drive a mkv, she’s on her last legs but when she cacks out i’m getting another. favourite car i’ve ever owned
Had mine for almost 10 years. I still miss that car. The new ones don't feel as alive.
Golf R generation drag race please mk3 vr6 included
Yes we need that
no
Agree
@@chrism869 no more hideous modern VW please .🙏🏼
Yes, please
We now need a race between every generation of Golf R (Golf 3 VR6 included)
Nah
R32
🥱😴 yawn.
Might as well throw in a mk2 syncro as well
Vr6 is not an R like version.
The MK3 isn’t a 16v, it’s the 8v version 115bhp, I’ve got a 16v 150bhp, mk3 16v has ABF engine 8v has AGG I think, there’s a big difference performance wise
Yeah, they screwed up all the pics and definitely got the wrong mk3 for this test. It should have been an ABF or VR6.
Cometieron una equivocacion utilizaron el golf mk2 de 16v 129hp vs el mk3 8v 115hp , el mk3 16v 150hp tenia que estar alli, para los que buscan estos modelos tendran una falsa realidad 😢
@@carsinruin6102vr6 😢😢😢❤
At 1 minute in they mixed up the footage. The Mk2 engine bay is the Mk3 8 valve and the Mk3 engine bay is the Mk2 16valve.
1:23. They also messed up the visuals of the gear lever. Mk2 and Mk3 were swapped.
🇿🇦South Africans must be loving this drag race
Absolutely love the evil laugh from Sam hahahaaha
I have a mk5 gti with the dsg auto and I got to say its one of my favourite cars I have driven, I love the handling, braking, gear shifts, everything. Its truly one of the best gti's ever
Same as me stage 2 mk5 gti dsg and kept it looking and it humbles the boy racers
My first car and I think it spoiled me with the fast shifting dsg. I think manuals are kind of overrated tbh, some people think its all or nothing. If you compare to some 4 speed auto alternative that can't build power, sure a manual is better and makes sense. But I think a good auto isn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be. Always having both hands on wheel to be in contact with the road is a plus.
@@darklordsauron3415the only thing a manual has going for it these days is that you may still be able to shift even if slight problems occur whereas an auto might just throw a code and refuse to work at all. And there have been lots of Volkswagen DSGs that gave their owners expensive troubles. Other manufacturers experienced similar problems with their DTCs, including Ford with its PowerShift (or PowerShit) transmissions.
A modern automatic with "manual mode" and a bridged torque converter can do everything better than probably 98% of all drivers would with a manual.
@@svenschwingel8632Ford use dry clutch on the powershift hence the law suits in the USA against them😅wet belt, dry clutch😂let’s be real the hero of the autos is the ZF8 box you just can’t beat it.. and you can run big power unlike most of the dsg boxes out there.
@@AI-Records24 Volkswagen also uses a dry clutch in its DQ200 DSG. It was no good as I had to experience myself 😐
Thanks Matt for accommodating us in South Africa 🇿🇦
Owned a Mark 4 and I loved that car. The Anniversary Edition and the R32s were amazing. I think that shape was pretty great too.
Agreed. Not sure why everyone hates on the MK4. I think it looks the best out of all of them. The newer ones forward all look like a Ford Focus or Toyota or something. That MK4 design is really sleek but definitely VW.
I had a used stage 2 mk4 on 22psi and it was a tank other than doing the water pump 2 times in a 5 year period. I would do full throttle pulls all day every day and it was the best, It would power through a foot of snow on back roads with bald tires like a snow plow, it just got too old and worn out at 200k to use it with a kid so I had to get rid of it
Agreed the mk4 is the best looking body vw has made. That goes for the Jetta as well. The 2003 20th anniversary edition and the r32. Chef's kiss
Mark 1 is gold
Mark 2*
It's white isn't it?
@@WaseemKhan-iu4bhnah mark one
nah its white
Reminds me of my grandpa, that man taught me half of things I know. God bless his soul, good memories. Also first car I've driven xD Must have stuck in my muscle memory, when I was buying my first car 15 years later, VW felt best under my hand, so that's what I took.
Sams villan laugh😂 when he passes Rory 😂
Why Rory's car suddenly went on reverse after 2nd rolling race?
I like how he laughs in these, I’m looking for the episode where he does this villain laugh all the time
In the early 90's I had a friend with a MK1 Golf. Lowered on Neuspeed springs, Neuspeed front and rear swaybars, wider wheels and tires and more. This was when I learned how fun a slow car with a good suspension can be.
It actually can be engine swapped with the engine from Mercedes SLR McLaren.
@@purwantiallan5089 so can any car... if you're brave enough😌
1:39 bro its not 5 speed, its 6 speed manuel.
6th gear: I'm a joke for you
I saw that as well and and had to go back and pause.
MK 5 and 6 aged like fine wine. Still look great
Mk6 especially
@@francescossj For sure because it has a lot of current and modern features like LED lights etc.
Indeed. I've got a Mk6 Wolfburg edition and I love the car.
@@burny6666arguably the mk6 gli has aged better... no bias ;) but no seriously VW was doing beautiful cars in fhe mk6 generation years
Mk5 and 6 has also the best sportseats.
This was a good one! Still a happy MK7 GTI owner with over 150k+ miles. Only failures so far have been the water pump and left rear wheel bearing.
which year is it?
@@duramater555 2017
Just got the water pump changed in my mk7.5 with 75000kms...
I Love how the 1.6 Golf Gti with the 110HP engine is keeping up Love it!❤
Yeah the mk1 1.8 would have been interesting also!!
@@alistairrobinson3865 drove both it felt slower than 1.6 in mk1 but yeah would've been interesting!
810kg is significant. Plus a nice revvy engine. Essentially they got more powerful and heavier but next few gens. no great advantage over the Mk1.
I had the 1983 1.8 gti with 14 inch rims and that little bastard was faster from 0 to 100 kmh than Clio 1.8 16v. Not by much...
Tested. Miss that car...
@@zf8496 I bet the 1.8 was more “grown up” but can imagine the 1.6 was more raw and frantic
0:55s Showing an 8v engine that does not belong in the Mk2 but referring to a 16v. The Mk2 Gti 8v and 16v both had K-Jetronic and not the injection shown in the clip and as far as I recall did not have the ali cam cover. Ali cam cover and that 8v engine only came in the Mk3. Could be wrong but that was the configuration in SA. But definately an 8v in the clip and not 16v.
I was going to write the same,I think they got the pictures the wrong way round
I was hoping someone else had noticed this
@@kieranniemand2939 almost all of us notes this, but almost nobody write about. Everyone lazy.
1:38 - “drives the front wheels by a 5 speed gearbox”.. okay, why does it have 6 gears then?! 😂
Nahh 💀
mistakes happen no big deal
because he misses 3rd all the time so its a 5 speed.
@@MrPrime-mt8dd Zelensky made f16 mistake
Because they got the 25th Anniversary version with 6 speed manual and 4 wheel drive. And they didn't mention that it has a Turbocharger. That's why i don't watch Carwow vids, they are made for kids.
Mk7 was peak Golf design, it will age like a fine wine
nope. sorry. mk3 and mk5 first then mk2 and mk1 2nd. the others justaboutalmost looks the same
@@paulvisage3118having the MK5 on the highest spot is baffling for me. Apart from the MK8 the worst of the bunch. For me MK7(.5), MK4, MK1, MK2, MK3, MK6……………………MK5…….MK8
@@marcokoopal3527putting mk5 second last is as baffling .
I love mk5 and 6. Greatest exterior
@@paulvisage3118 you say that while the mk2 and mk3 look the most similar
MK1: Hood stick
MK2: Hood stick
MK3: Hood stick
MK4: Gas struts
MK5: Gas struts
MK6: Gas struts
MK7: Gas struts
MK8: Hood stick
going backwards
ghey who cares
Every day, the automotive world gets worse.
shrinkflation
Finally got serious about that weight loss program.🤣
the best part of this video is the cars they've sourced. every single model the special edition, and in amazing condition! cant imagine the amount time that went into finding these
From the numberplate, I wonder if these are VW heritage fleet cars?
These are vw heritage fleet cars
Oh boy that mk4 is so clean! My first car was a mk4 golf TDI, yes the 1.9PD130. So the mk4 will always have a soft spot in my heart!
Such a timeless design and they drove absolutely lovely too, great turn in and lift off oversteer even in stock form. The diesels were great cars to be fair we know how good the PD engines are!
Damn that MK5 holding it down, cant believe it managed to beat the 6 and 7.5 in rolls and all of them in brake tests
Something not right. 7 owns 5 with ease for most people.
@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju Almost identical power to weight ratio, and the automatic in the MK7 will eat a bit of the power coming to the wheels so nothing unlogical happening here
Those mk5s don't have 230hp it's more like 245hp
this is because the mk5 and 6 is the edition 30/35 version with the bigger k04 turbos, whereas both the mk7/8 have the smaller turbos compared to their clubsport variants whcih have the bigger golf r turbos. Should have been mk5 ed30, mk6 ed35, mk7 clubsport, mk8 clubsport and it would be a different result.
@@BryceCzirr-jz7ju because he didn't use the clubsport versions of the mk7 and 8 which would have absolutely smoked the both the mk5 and 6 easily. I have a mk7 GTI with golf r turbo which is the same as the clubsports and its running 370hp and 510nm, its an animal.
Sam's laugh is menacing when hes beating the other cars..... great video 😂😂
The Mk5 exceeding expectations thanks to that prime Ferdinand Piech era overengineering 👏👏
Proud MK6 Owner since 2015, with w KO4 , a ECU-TCU Tune , KW COs, APR Cooling system and an enlarged intake with PCV delete and OZ Superleggera its a dream Start for any car enthusiast that has a small budget like mine
Nice car!
Sounds amazing 😂❤
Have a stage 2 mk6 gti with a fully forged engine for the price unbeatable performance
@@tommasov10 thanks mate, yours looks sick as well👍🏻
@@remusserban5157 thank youuu
Gutted, I sold my MK1 GTi, MK2 GTi & MK4 4motion.
The MK2 was my favourite ❤
Dude awesome cars, I had the MK1 GTI 1.8 and then the MK2 16v... Loved em both had so much fun back in the 90's... If only I knew back then what I know now lol, I would have kept em both.. 👍👍
I have a MK2 8V currently, it's an absolute blast. I had a MK7.5 before and the MK2 makes me smile so much more
Dyed in the wool Mk2 Big Bumper fan here. To me it really was the reason for the GTI's success.
Loved my mk2 8v. Exhaust was music. Perfect air con. Sliding roof plus rear window adjustment in hot weather, no problem! Mad to have sold it.
@@omerta2002
Of course, MK2 forever. I still have 2 MK2 GTI's. Both upgraded. 1st upgraded up to 250 hp, and 2nd up to 260 hp. 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼
I love how these guys are starting to become our new Top Gear for this generation. Nothing will replace the OGs. More episodes like this and banter are making these top!
i agree. wholeheartedly. Matt Watson for the win!
Top Gear had top notch writers for the show taking care of most of the ‘banter’.
I think Carwow just wings it.
A huge respect for making this video! loved the old 5gear manual race!
In South Africa 🇿🇦 the Mk1 was being produced with the mk6 we love the mk1 that much we couldn't stop producing them till 2009 ❤
The GTI was my dream car as a child. Especially the MK7 GTI with the ANALOGUE instrument panel
….and put a Stage 1 on and you got the best out of it 😜
Love my MK 6 2010!
320.000 Km on ODO.
Original Turbo- Engine- DSG
Best Car I ever owned.
I've owned an MK2 and an MK5 at different times, and I loved both cars for what they were in their day. My favorite car from my past, without question, was the Acura Integra GS-R (DC2). That was a special, special vehicle to me, a very attainable, pure "drivers' car" in the truest sense. It got stolen from me after 3 years of ownership, but those years I had it stuck with me. A generational Integra / RSX battle would be fun to see.
Mk4 was a beauty. One of the few rounded design that were actually cool and well proportioned. Also really well built.
MK1 is one of the alltime greats, timeless design, lightweight, proper driver feel... i miss mine!
Italian design
mk5 has aged beautifully, still has old charm yet modern ability.
Was my first car, it is brilliant. It feels quite modern (apart from infotainment ofc, but easy to change) still today
I said the same thing to my gf while watching the video !!
they dont drive nothing like the old versions
My car has its engine and man its my current nightmare😭
@@marioelburro1492 it's giving you problems? The issue with mine was that it used to consume oil, but even from new. What's the problem with yours? Is it stock?
as a GTI fanatic (team mk7 here), I loved this vids. some of the shots like 17:11 were just _awesome._
nice vid 👏
Sam - is the beast, 22:40 - destroying dsg with the manual - cost a lot 👍💪😎
and a remap lmao. mk5 def tuned
@@lol4224 Probably not tuned. It’s an Edition 30 which has more power, and it’s lighter than the Mk6. If tuned it would be up with the amk7
It’s 4 am where I’m at. I’m 6 hours into my 12 hour shift. It’s lunch break time and this video just released. The timing is perfect 🤙🏽
Mk 1 has such an iconic, pretty design. Giugiaro is a genius.
It is one of the less ugly Guigiaro designs. But I don't understand why he's a celebrated designer. None of his designs are good.
@@rightwingsafetysquad9872good thing opinion are subjective
@@AdemyrDiaz I guess. He did one Alfa concept that was really good. Almost everything else he ever designed looks like generic 80s shot box #37. Even the expensive cars he designed like the Mercs look like generic shit boxes unless you already know better.
It’s so surreal watching this few days after I bought the exact same spec 8.5 GTi. So happy, can’t wait to get behind the wheel.
I am a Porsche 911 owner and collector and I choose to drive a Mk8 GTI as my daily driver. My last daily was a BMW M2C but in reality, the GTI is a far better daily performance car. It flys under the radar and handles razor sharp.
Build quality might even be better in my 2024 GTI S than my 2020 M2C. Absolutely no rattling or creeks even in cold weather. The GTI feels so solid and well put together. I have other full size luxury vehicles from BMW in my collection but the DNA in this little GTI takes me back to my earlier air cooled 911 in it’s a drivers car that is pure German simplicity and oozes its German DNA. It doesn’t have vulgar silly wings in add-ons as other cars in the hot hatch category. It just works. Our last few Audi models from a RS3, S4, RS4, were nice but too heavy and rather expensive with annoying tech and mechanical issues always visiting the dealer. AWD might be faster off the line but heavy and less fun in general. The GTI climate control will freeze you out with its air AC and quickly heat up in winter. Set the GTI climate to auto and forget about it in all 4 seasons. Lastly, the GTi is a pure drivers car so once set up you don’t fiddle with the controls short of drive mode “Sport” or “individual”. That is the beauty of the GTI as it doesn’t need to be constantly adjusted like my BMW or Audis. It does what it does better than anything else in its class.
yes, my SF90 is also worse than my Mk5 GTI, it`s in a league of its own this VW GTI.
Yeah i prefer my mk 7 GTI over my Bugatti Bolide. Such a great car! 👀
this guy sounds like a bullshit spewer.LOL
I hope you don't have a creek in your car, would be mightily cold and wet.....
lol this is the new copypasta for sure 🤣 seriously tho my gf just got a 15 GTI and it actually is really impressive coming from a BMW guy
Mk5 Edition 30 ❤ Had a APR Stage2+ on mine. Absolute weapon back in the days
Still a weapon now. 370hp in them is no joke, we just live in a world where that’s become the norm for hot hatches 🤯
@@evanrixon806 Yea true!
278 hp 363 nm golf gti mk5
@@victorstefan3780 edition30 gti has a K04 turbo hence why you get 370hp on a stage 2+ tune. Normal Gti with K03 turbo gets those figures your on about 😉✊🏾
Yep , weapons.. I now have a leon184 diesel 😢 Had 165mph out my mk5, in Mexico 😉
Sam got one of the most villaneous laughter ever! Like the Joker.😄
And massive respect to the MK1.
You can never go wrong wit a Golf. Its both respectable and fun at the same time
the early models are. new ones boring af
You can never go wrong with a golf
which is K swapped
@@Lemingtona-x5gcome on man 😂
Mk7 still a cracking car
MK5 for me. Classy car without being in a class. Anyone can drive them from a single mum in east London to land owning gentry
If that mk3 was the VR6 it would have made this segment way more interesting. We never had MK3 16v’s in the US. The 2.8 vr6 was the car to have for a long time. Still saught after.
Wow that was very surprising!!! The Mark 1 off the line was incredible. The Mark 2 will forever be the King of GTi’s!!!!!
Excellent race thanks 🎉congratulations
The MK3 GTI 16 V has got a 150 hp/180 Nm, and the MK4 GTI 150 hp, in Editions 180 hp
That mk 3 is the 8v
The standard MK4 GTi should've gotten 180 hp and the Anniversary mk 4 should've had 225 hp , but VW was caught napping 😅
No , it's 16v , look closer 😉
@@ВладимирСтоименов-в6гthe shots are mismatched. The 16v is from the mk2 and the 8v is from the MK3.
@@ВладимирСтоименов-в6гit’s an 8 valve bud
As another 🇿🇦, this video sure blew my mind. Weird that the 3rd gen is that slow, heavier and less power than the 2nd😑, but then, the 6th gen still my favourite ❤
13:30 Red car 🚗 won! 🏆
They’re all red related it’s the mk8.5
This video brings back such awesome memories from my childhood and this is the car that got me into becoming a petrolhead. My dad had a 1983 Mk1 GTI (Burgundy) with 15" BBS Hockenheims and a Zender front lower bumper. Everytime we drove in that car I begged my dad to race it 😂. He sold it eventually and upgraded to a 1998 VW Caddy Pick-up which had the 1.8 8v engine and it was a surprising little rocket ship. My dad currently owns an '06 Caddy Pickup and 2018 Tiguan Comfortline, I myself had a 2010 Mk1 CitiSport 1.4i which unfortunately got written off almost a year into ownership and since then I got a 2011 Polo vivo so VW runs strong in our family, 38 years and counting, but I'm now in the market to get a MkVI or MkVII manual GTI just for the sheer pleasure of experiencing what I experienced when I was a little 4 year old in the best hot hatch! 🇿🇦✌️
This MK3 is no 16V, the "16V" badge is missing and they clearly announce 115 hp, which is the power of the 8V. The 16V has 150. I had a 8V and got crushed by a MK1 just like in this video. A 16V would have been in front of the MK1 and MK2 and maybe even of the MK4, due to the lesser weight.
also when they showed the engines, mk3 and mk2 footage were switched
Yep, mk3 16v was 2,0 150. Sorry they didnt had that one. Or the mk1 with 1,8 8v.
This is 16v block. Are you blind?? Huge block!!!
Came here for this. How hard would have been to find a 16v MK3?
Or, at least, acknowledge in the fact that there is one.
Quite unfair, especially as they're going with the 16v MK2.
The infamous 2.slow.
To me the mk4 aged so well. I know its a rather unpopular opinion but til this day i find the mk4 so good looking
I love the MK4 as well. I was never big on the MK5.
I currently own an MK7 Golf GTI.
@@vr6gls nice man, mk7 is my next favorite among the modern ones. My dad had an mk7 gti a couple years back, what a great car
I love the look of the Mk.4.
I think most of the complaints about it are mechanical- and performance-based, not aesthetics.
Even though it's not technically a GTI, I think the Mk.4 Golf R32 is one of the best looking Golf variants ever.
Better then the mk1-3 in design imo, people didn't like I guess cause it lacked the sporty handling and feel of the prior ones, which was fixed with the mk5.
Guys you showed the enginebay of the Mk2 for the MK3 introduction and vice versa. 😄
No it looks like they have, but that mk2 seems to have a 2.0 8v in it and the mk3 is an ABF 2.0 16v version
@@rickydub6950he’s right, they have the wrong engines matched to the cars, you can see the mk2 headlights when he’s talking about the mk3. Was wondering if anyone else noticed that. Loved my Mk2 16v but the mk1 was awesome for zipping through town.
@kingkoolkata yip, now I have watched it, paused and concentrated lol and I own a mk2 16v and a mk3 vr6 🙈😂
Wrong interior shots too. Showed the Mk3 interior on the Mk2 and the Mk2 interior on the Mk3. I laughed when Mat said "GTI 16V" then shows an 8V engine!
@@rickydub6950 exactly.
Proud owner of a MK5. It’s my 3rd MK5 GTI. It’s like every time I want to move on to something else, the MK5 just sucks me back in. I believe it is the best overall generation of GTI
Racing driver Sam's winning laugh is just perfect😂
8:49 love the MK1 just screeching infront of the rest
I had a mk1 & 2 loved them, but my, MK3 VR6 was something else & in my opinion the best sounding Vdub ever
They may as well scrap this video. If you’re not going to let a VR represent the MK3, then no point.
Loving the video already
Awesome race! Mk5 and Mk6 kept up fairly well to the Mk7.5! Context definitely important, the Mk5 and Mk6 aren’t the “regular” GTI’s, they are the edition 30 and 35 respectively, whereas the Mk7.5 and Mk8.5 are the “regular base” GTI’s. Although, the Mk7.5 is actually a performance pack. So not completely base.
The equivalent Mk7 and Mk8 would be GTI Clubsport Edition 40 and 45 respectively.
Mk7.5 Performance has 7spd DSG, and likely to have GPF too (if made March 2018 onwards). Remap is vital for it 🤣
The mk7 is not base but Performance
@@aiextm6191
Which I did say. However, at a point towards the end of its production, the Performance did become standard.
This is why i think the mk5-8 races weren't entirely on equal footing. He should have used the base mk5 and 6 or used both clubsport versions of the mk7 and 8.
I dont care, for all the so called progress and massive sums of money the 7.5 and 8 cost id still expect it leaving a manual mk5 regardless if it was k04. modern tech and dsg has been embarrassed, the game just aint moved on as much as the marketing makes you think. They just sell you more boring screens now and autos
Had a red Mk5 in 2007-2010. Had it APR programmed to 250+hp and 400+NM. 6spd manual, was HUGE fun car and very quick. Also the kids named it Rory. Rory the red racing car. LOL. So cool to see this video.
I was selling VWs when the MkV came out, absolutely love that car!
My 2008 was named Dash, after the kid from the Incredibles. Great drive.
14:31 Sam is a beastt😅🔥 also the mk5 has always been my favorite
That chuckle he has when beating rory is devious
@@ss-lv1mw yepp haha
Amazing video as always 🙌
s class generation race please
Yesss!
Normal, Maybach, or AMG?
Include the w140 s73
The subtle "CSI: Miami" yell when Sam drops his shades was top tier. :)
My money is on the golf
Same, that golf was fast though.
@@ESL3023 lame reply
Mine is on the red GTi..
@@dagameboy😂😂
My money is on the one with the I4 engine
My brother had a 2 door GT 1979, 2l abf motor,throttles the works, running on PURE AVGAS,
PUSHING 135KW no turbo. Made gti mk7 look like it was going in reverse on the ¼mile. RSA BOYS WILL GO MAD FOR IT 🇿🇦
20:28 that laugh made my day better
MK4 Forever❤
Mk4 Models (1998-2003-2006)
The best & most durable...
Agreed 🤙🏾
@@ericmokane2175 the golf mk4 released in 1998 generation end in 2003 discontinued in 2006
It meant the model in this video@@TheArtrentin
As a 50 years old man, I must admit that Golf I, Golf 2, and Golf 3 brought a happy smile on my face, reminding me of all those "childish" things we were doing. Golf 4... I kind of still like it, but there was no emotion involved. Golf 6 I will always associate with the crappy gear box!
Imposible not to have emotions with the MKIV V6 R32, V6 2.8, V5 2.3, 1.8T in 3/5 doors?
No way, no emotions those new suvs, not a single gti 😅
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Loved the video! I grew up with Golf GTI’s from Mark 1 to 3. Maybe I will make a video about it. Thanks for the fun comparison.
1:41 Matt just said that this car has a five speed manual gearbox. But it says six speed
Was abt to comment that😂
@@jesse6776 oh my goodness
6th gear is overdrive so saying it's a 5speed is correct
@@hotballer02 😂😂😂 BS!!! 🤦♂
Somebody mixed the Engine Bay of the Mk2 and Mk3 up :)
Good spot! The mk3 was the 8v version, not the 16v which probably explains why it was last!
Yup
Still fucking crazy its slower then a mark 1 even if its a 8v 😂@@Sanj__S
I remember how disappointing the Mk3 Gti was
@@Zirion123 the mk1 is way lighter and has the stronger engine for the car
I always wanted to see this race!
This video was for me. Thank you Carwow. I enjoyed it.
This video finished hilariously :D. Interesting video and looks like the Mk5 Ed30 is the best allrounder - but we all knew that didn't we.
Had a MK6 GTI and switched to a Pirelli MK5 this video validates my choice
You did no favours to the Mark III choosing the 115hp GTI lite version over the 150 which is an absolute rocketship😉
It would have definitely given the Mark IV a ran for it's money being lighter as well
MK2 is also 8v 😢
Actually it was the150bhp version. You can see the 16V DOHC head in the video. I used to own one and wouldn't call it a rocket ship. 0-60 in 8.7 sec. Heavy and not exactly a fizzy engine.
Actually on closer look they mixed the engine bays of the mk2 and mk3 around. The mk2 is 16V and mk3 is 8V.
@@danmoney9932 mk2 is the 16v version 🤦♂
You couldn’t even get that in the US. Pretty sure all MK3 GTI’s were VR6’s.
Nice to see the lads with a gear knob and clutch/3rd pedal for once🎉🎉
I have a mk6 gti and i love the perfect mashup between a useful and practical daily and a fun car to drive on weekend getaways
I had a mk6 GTI for 2 years, too many problems. Timing chain, water pump, spark plugs, gearbox, turbo eventually needed replacing too. Sold it and got a mk6 GTD.
@@nigelboom3943 Spark plugs are consumables. Timing chains have to be done at around 110,000 miles and on any Golf of any generation you always ALWAYS do the waterpump when you do the cam belt or cam chain.
Mats accent when asking Sam if his car was a manual is so funny 15:03
Awesome classics. Best hothatch ever: GTI Vrrrpha 🇿🇦
That´s a fantastic race. The Golf V GTI (2008) is much faster than the others.
Damn 1.6l 110hp puts Ford's 1980's 2.3l 86hp to shame
The golf 5 is the best Gti to date
not even close
worst gti ever
@@1dayumay548 One opinion versus 19 other opinions. Together this makes statistics, and a general consensus among the community. So how does it feel to be "wrong" in a sense?
That mk6's red paint tho🔥
It's literally the same as the 5,7 and 8.
Tornado Red MK4 is what’s up. It’s such a rare color and finding one in the US is almost impossible.
I don't know if it's the camera shot but the color looks deep and rich
It looked like ferrari's rosso magma
No it’s not, mk8 isn’t anything like Tornado red
The only correct color for a GTI, is red.
I was fortunate enough to own a MKV GTI during my college years. Absolutely loved it. Was reliable and amazing fun to drive, and I still think it looks the best out of all the versions.
A bit of perspective - Matt says the Mk2 in 1991 cost £13,995 which would be equivalent to about £38,000 comparing with RPI (Retail Price Index). The 'same' price as the new (much better) one! 😳
People seem to forget that inflation exists when comparing prices with previous generations
People forget because the salary has not the same pace of the inflation 😅
According to the Bank of England inflation calculator it would be around £32000 in todays money
@@ivordavies1828 there are many ways of measuring the difference in value over time - some make more sense than others!
RPI is measuring against the price of goods in the shops and may better reflect the ability to spend than inflation which is more to do with the value of a currency.
It’s not better though the mk2 was the best golf so much fun and no electronic shit to go wrong just light basic and a joy to drive
You've got scammed. The Mk2 is an 8valve engine with 16valve badges😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
they got the mk2 and mk3 engine bay pics the wrong way around
@@FenderUsaah good spot 👍
@FenderUsa that's true. I see it now.
I thought that same... didnt see that detail that they were swapped around lol
11:43 first things first rest in peace uncle Phil
For real!
You the only father that I ever knew!
Random Uncle Phil shoutout….But I guess it’s always a good time for that.
@@axe2grind244You ruined it
The GTI and Golf R are such amazing machines and shocking on how they go! My Son has a Golf R and that damn thing just amazes me.