I have always loved BMWs and Mercedes and still do, but my G37x is just unbreakable. I never even think about the possibility of it breaking because it simply doesn't. The AWD is amazing too. Woke up one morning for work and there was literally snow up to the top of the hood and the snowbank the snowplow made. I didn't expect the car to actually go through it but I thought wth..may as well give it a try. Drove through it like it wasn't even there. I drive it like a complete jackass too. I am hooked. Next car will be a newer Infiniti.
Brandon Bloedow Speed, power and performance can be seen is several vehicles of this price range but G37 can never come close to a BMW, given the the beemer's handling, road feel and stylish body. G37 is a blotted sports car with a fugly look. Even in next ten years it cannot even come close to an E92 body and styling.. period
Very fair call on the winner on this. Gotta keep in mind the g37 gave them no problems, it cost less, and way cheaper to maintain while being more reliable. Its less tunable but a very good fun daily car. I'd give it to the g37 on this one too
I agree with all of this, except less tunable. Sharing the VQ motor with the 370z and the GT-R gives the G37 a pretty huge aftermarket. Not sure how it compares to this generation 335i but I bought my G37 only after discovering I'd have lots of aftermarket options for the car. Maybe you're right and 335i has a larger aftermarket and is easier to tune, but at least worth pointing out the G37 is no slouch in this category.
the n54 335i e90s are super tuneable like a jb4 TUNE adds 100hp and 100ftlb of torque plus down pipes is 30 extra hp too.......irealllllly wish they were more reliable tho ughhh@@examancer
and this is why the G is a better buy. I love the looks of bmw inside/out but for the money I went with G35x and drive it Harrrd daily with 0 issues! People I know with bmw are constantly having issues. Infinity G makes over 300hp with no turbo, yet bmw twin turbo is barely 300hp for more $$ No thanks.
+S2k2014 And about $2500 in repair shortly after the mods and another $1000 in random repairs constantly as these cars are WELL known for and most shops refuse to work on bmw because of this so that means frequent trips to dealer or $peciality import $hop... Thats what I was saying bruh.
+Josh Sarabia As s2k2014 stated, you have no idea the tuning possibility of the 335i. with just a software tune (everything stock) the car makes over 400hp... try doing that to your G.
+XMG3 Thats not what my comment was about. I simply said when I campared these 2 before purchasing the G was a better buy as far as reliability and hp out of the box. I could make my infiniti tt or sc but thats not what I and most people buy brand new luxury cars for. As I stated before and many G owners will tell you these cars are bullet proof so I dont know about you but I dont like my car breaking down when I drive it harrrd or go into limp mode. My Audi was the same way and I will never buy german cars again. Lesson learned!
Hell yeah. I always have great times racing people no matter win or lose but I guess I'm just an enthusiast and not a full on addict with a budget problem. All I know is having a car out of service for need of repair is worse than losing 50 races. I'll take the G ;-) plus the handling looks soo much better on this video. Looked so drifty and smooth, bimmer always looked out of control and jerky all video long
I don't know about you all, but looking at the two videos I can't help but notice how smooth and drifty the G was in the turns while the 335i looked like he was about to lose control at any minute. I'm sure partly from the LSD, but still.
Turbos, in short, pack more air into the cylinders thus creating more power. They do this by using the exhaust to power the turbo fan to compress air into the cylinder. If you in fact do not know.
BMW breaks down during the comparison and the result is Motor Trend is only *leaning* towards the G37?!? Man, that BMW cachet is pretty tough to overcome.
@@revaholic Pretty cool back in the day? With the tunes, bolt-ons, and upgrades on the market now days for these N54 powered 335's do you even know what they are capable of? Also, stop spreading misinformation as I take it you have never owned a 335i. They really are not unreliable cars. Sure, there are some horror stories. There are also plenty like my own 335i which have been on the road for over 12 years now and have experienced minimal, minor issues.
I’ve got the “reliable” facelift 335i with the n55 and even that’s unreliable. Some people do get lucky but the generally you have to have money aside for repairs if you want to own these cars
I used to own a 335xi, every time I floored the car the check service engine light come on and tells me to go easy on the throttle, same thing with my buddies X5. in 2 years I've lost count of how much I spent on the BMW for repairs. I now own a g37x for a year now and the only thing it needed was new tires, brakes, and regular maintenance. Much better daily and will save you lots of money down the road. But if you have deep pockets. Knock yourself out with the bmw. it's a nice ride when it's not in the shop.
Your right about 335's being everywhere. But one thing is for sure g37 is still a Nissan and v6 engines are used for truck motors and mid sized FWD drive sedans where as a 335i is Dohc Inline 6 Bi-Vanos VVT Twin Turbo and direct fuel injection engine closer to a RB26DETT (R34) the only thing is a 335i has 300hp and 300lbs. Both these cars are highly respected before you say anything you should get behind the wheel of the 335.
If the 335i did not go into limp mode it would have won over the g37. This issue has already been address to bmw and now the 335 sport package comes with oil coolers to prevent over heating. So they should have a 2nd run to see how well the bmw stands up on the track.
The 335i has an inherent HPFP malfunction for the years 2007 to 2010. The fuel pump problem has recently been fixed. The cooling problem has been addressed with a factory oil cooler and intercooler.
i have one . which is pre owned . I've had it for 1 year now and only had 1or 2 problems which were minor . thats really all about it .. don't believe everything you hear.
i had a buddy who worked in the maintenance dept at a local BMW dealer....he told me millionaires would return their leases b/c "I can't afford the maintenance" and of course the 100s of other stories i have heard...the engines are good n trannys decent, but all the surrounding components aren't....turbos going out at 60k miles and costing nearly 5 figures to replace is unacceptable.
the motor needs to breathe better is all..just needs aftermarket intercooler and intake. obviously it's not an excuse but a BMW is a BMW i stand by my choice of getting the 335 instead of an infiniti ;)
Yea, I had the 2007 335i.. The car drove like a dream (driving on the freeways here in LA was like cutting butter with a warm knife), but the fuel pump issue (the limp mode) stained my experience.
I've owned both, loved both. I have a BMW now and was debating between a BMW 3 convertible or the g37 coupe. I love my torque so I'm leaning toward the BMW but they cost way more to service and repair, so ugg, why can't I just afford a Maserati Quatraporte???!!!
wow i can't believe the ultimate driving maching couldn't finish all three laps i own a g37 and before that a g35 but both times i was car shopping i looked at the 3 series i guess i did good
i like the way my g37 handles but I've been driving a g for the past 10 years so i guess I'm just used to em I'm on to a sedan these days cuz idunno bout bmws but u can't haul shit in this car
+Junaid Khan He praised the torque (which I think he's actually praising the power band) and sound deadening. Not the handling. He complimented the g37 on it's handling and making faster track times. BMWs are notorious for bad cooling. I worked at Classic BMW here in Plano Tx... So so so so many cars would come in overheating. Brand new cars. They quit having us top the cars off with coolant. Instead they'd give us water b/c they KNEW the cars would have a water pump failure in the near future anyway.
U should've bought a G35S Manual Sedan 2007 bc it's the fastest car Infiniti had before the Red Sports. Believe it or not, the G37 did have a hp difference over a G35 (328hp-306hp), but the G35 weighed a bit more. The fastest G37 was the G37 Sport Coupe Manual in which did a 0-60 in 5.2, but the G35 Sport Sedan Manual 2007 did a 0-60 in 5 seconds flat.
He sounds conflicted when he's in the 335i... The brakes are fading... It's limping along, won't let him accelerate... But the car's an absolute dream.
Both cars are amazing nuff said... The BMW 335I is probably faster than the G37 but it doesn't matter because the 335i isn't even the direct competitor to the G37; it's the 328i. So, yes, for the price, in this case Infiniti wins for sure. But (besides the cooling issue) the 335i should beat a G37. However, I look forward to the day when Infiniti creates a G to dethrone the 335i. It will be interesting
@ariafreak I am not biased.I actually just got a g37 coupe this month, I was between the 335 and the g37. I personally think the G37's interior is far better than the BMWs, it is almost as fast and you get more luxury extras for the money. The bmw has a better power and torque curve, easy to see why it is a little faster. Go to any car magazine website, there are plenty of comparos out there between the two. Road and track has a good article comparing the S4, G37, 335 and TL, or google it
BMW has added Oil coolers to 335i's with the Sport package to prevent this over heating issue. If you're still arguing about the limp mode, that argument is completely moot now. My 09 BMW is going into production in just a couple days! The BMW was just more refined than the G. What no one mentions is the extra 30lb-ft of torque the BMW has at 1300RPM through 5k RPM that is much more useful than the 30 extra hp. Both great cars, you guys should just admire 2 great cars instead of complaining.
Just what I thought from a BMW . A excellent car with terrible reliability record.. I will stick with my G37 all day long . Rough , tough , and badass . Easy to maintain and fun to drive .
@Roman bro tell me about it I have an e46 since I got it its been pure headaches their nice cars but damn to many problems from oil leaks to control arms and over heating , now I'm looking into a g37 hopefully I have better luck
lol you'd think that a car company with so much experience would remember that a 300HP turbo car needs an oil cooler when they roll it out of the factory. Nice one XD
I have owned both the G and now a 335i, for the money I think these are two of the best cars out there. Both have there pluses. G has better seats, exhaust, cup holders (very important), stock rims, mirror controls, air conditioner, seating position, flow of interior / stiffer suspension. BMW incomparably outperforms the G with a $1k JB3 Upgrade, far more torque througout the powerband, car feels more solid with a smoother ride, Auto wipers and seatbelts are nice on the BMW
@Lunatic0001 Another guy on this same page said something similair to what u said about the 335i specs. He said they underrated it b/c of the M3, not detuned though. He said it produces about 330-350 at the crank. About that Dinan chip. What are the MPG after it recieves it?
I've got the 335is which comes with an additional radiator and oil cooler. It's factury tuned over the regular 335i and the oil temp never crosses 260 degrees even when flat out going 160+ mph
I think 2007 was the first year of the 335i. Not to defend the car in any way but for most any car, the first year is going to have bugs/issues. Just out of curiosity have you (or anyone else for that matter) ever had issues with the 6spd transmission in the G37 coupe? My brother has the 6speed auto (2009) and it's giving him some weird issues, popping into neutral and whatnot for no reason. This usually occurs after hard braking or after a sharp turn.
Japanese cars in general have torque when they get to the high RPM, while euro cars got linear torque distribution, so based on this one can easily see why German cars tend to have constant acceleration from start while virtually all Japanese cars need to get the high RPM before you can feel the pull... It's really a huge equation one should be looking at - torque, hp, mass, weight distribution, center of gravity, braking power, etc
Actually I did not change the subject. I responded to what you said while asking what you meant by "invinity" if you cant see that then I dont know what to tell you. Yes ive driven a BMW, they are nice, but only when they are not in the shop.
I now have both G37 and 335i and 340xi. Even with supercharger working on G37 the heavily modded BMWs are faster but when I do get in the G, it just feels so right. Idk. Just put a short shifter on my 340 which is nice but shifting the OEM G37 still feels so much better
This is funny. I have a 08 G37S and one of my buddies is a BMW guy who recently traded his 08 335i coupe for a 2010 M3 (I have a 0-140 or so run video on my channel) and the first thing he said when I first showed him my car was how much nicer the Infiniti interior is. Both his bimmers (not beamer, beamer are the BMW bikes) have the same interior from ten years ago. Even his M3 has an interior that's nothing to talk about.
@FA5Kris Where did u find out about the real specs for the 335i? Did some company or car magazine dyno test it? I'm still amazed at Nissan for getting 330 h/p out of a V6 without turbos or a supercharger & still gets around the same MPG. That shows how efficient & well design the car is. Its great engineering. It also shows the potential it has if u were to put turbos or a supercharger on the motor. We would see around 375-425 horsepower!!!
@postersurfman1 it has .7 more liters or displacement. If BMW wanted to go the route of all motor they could of gotten 360 hp considering the M3 has a V8 with 1.4 more liters. But instead theyre trying to go the f/i route. In which they are doing very well in.
Also, HP really stands for engine power output, which if ppl did their homework well would know is actually a proportional related to RPM and TORQUE at the same time. Power (hp) = Force (lb) * Velocity (MPH)/const , now this said it doesn't take PhD to see what low RPM and no torque does to you...
BMW stands for "Big major wrecked" over rated Automobile. Ultimate driving machine my ass ive own 3series and 5series and both cars stayed in the shop. Thus hint "HIGH MAINTENANCE ".Imho Infiniti a way better car with No problems and more stock power without turbos..
If we're talking reliability the Infiniti wins hands down, they're consistently rated "excellent" by consumer reports. But the 335i has had nothing but problems from the get go. I actually considered ditching my G35 for a 335i but a buddy of mine got one and it has been nothing but trouble, he's already dumped $4k into since he bought it. That's unacceptable for a 3 year old car that cost $50k originally.
I'm a card carrying BMWCCA and PCA member. I've come back to Infiniti because both Porsche and BMW have disappointed me. BMW 335i DOES overheat at the track since 2007 and has poor brakes, I've had 2. How long until BMW can fix this? I tried Porsche Cayman S, it has well documented oil ingestion problems at the track. In fact, almost every Porsche shy of the GT series has track issues. If I'm paying more for track creds, then they need to perform at the track.
I have a 2010 335xi never gave me problems after I did a charge pipe upgrade and intercooler. I took mines to the track when it was stock and I never had cooling issues. I must say, it's very reliable tho
Another N54 335i owner here. Mine has been incredibly reliable. Isn't it funny how a vast majority of the comments bashing the N54 reliability are from people who have never owned a 335i? I think many people are jealous that the N54 335i absolutely obliterated the competition, so people claim its unreliable. 500hp from a tune, bolt-ons, and an E85 mix is unheard of for a stock turbo, stock fueling, stock internal 3.0L engine. The N54 did it. It still does it. And it does it reliably. IT'S 2019 AND BRAND NEW MID-RANGE SPORTS CARS CAN'T EVEN DO WHAT THE 2007-2010 335i CAN STILL DO TO THIS DATE.
I had the 07 BMW 328i coupe and I traded it in for an 09 Infiniti G37 coupe. All i can say is BMW is no longer the king of power and luxury. The Infiniti exceeded my expectation. Its the best investment I've done my whole life.
Bro you have to have a turbo to keep up with our G37's!!! we runnin stock motor ! And 335 still lost....Trashhhh!!!! i would never pay for a to shut off after i full lap!!! G37/NISSAN SKYLINE 370GT FTW!!!! IT'S A SKYLINE!!! WE ALWAYS WIN!
not a big fan of two seater, still goin to get G37 :D, but i do like some features on the new Z especially the rev match :D, G is a bit slower than the Z cuz of the weight, but acceleration isn't an issue for me cuz i'm gonna get it for luxury/sport part of it.
@Lunatic0001 On a CarAndDriver article, they reported that it gives a increase of 50-60 h/p if I remember correctly. I'll have to go back & read it again. This video comparison makes question the durability of the 335i since it had cooling issues & adding more boost causes more heat therefore needing better cooling efficiency. If the chip does what I read & what u said, why buy a M3?
Got my 09 G37x coupe today w/ NAV, Camera etc.. Traded in my 04 G35 coupe. Reason: Ontario, Canada's Winter.. The G35 coupe was reliable and I expect the same thing with the G37x coupe.
@xVEINYWEDGEx Oh. I know what force induction is. I just couldn't figure out the abbrevations. When car makers go the all motor route, use small displacement & really high compression instead of force inductions, it sometimes uses more fuel,. Hence, the M3. The M3 V8 gets 14 city & 20 highway. The V8s in the Camaro SS & Mustang GT get about 15-17 city & 24-26 highway.
g37 is good car. great looking coupe. g37 is fast. g37 don't break if you do good maintenance and don't slam in potholes and speed bumps and do stupid things to the transmission. put rims on your g37. if you have an awd (g37x), turbocharge it be quicker than stock gtrs
G for the Win!! I've never watched these comparisons, I'm a driver, but I Knew this would be the ultimate outcome. Infiniti has a good formula if Nissan is willing to stick to their formula and improve.
yeah you need to upgrade it with a aftermarker intake, them turbo's need air*, pu a procede stage 2 flash, intakem, and turbo back exhaust you'd take the e60 m5 on streets of willow and lay down over 400hp for about 3 and 1/2 grand
I own a g37 coupe heavy modded . Test drove a 335i today and holy crap the low end torque . The g is nicer in looks and features . But if u want the faster car 335i
Roclee612 I Ended up getting a 135i. When I owned a g37 i tried to convince myself it was fast. Truth is after thousands in upgrades u can make 30 extra hp if your lucky . Worse than that the car is very heavy and makes peak power at redline . The g35 was better in terms of sports over luxury . IMO the bmw is better in every way . And I finnaly understand what the hype was all about. And the red leather is beautiful .
***** yes flooring it may feel any quicker . Since the infinti tourqe builds untill redline it makes it feel quick .but since the bmw has tourqe low , daily driving feels very sporty .But it does lose power after around 5500rpm so you have to shift early to stay in boost . Twin turbo the infiniti and you will surprise a lot of people . The only reason I got rid of the inifiti was the horrible mpg I was getting . I had the 08 five speed auto
yes sir We have a 2007 G35x and a 2013 G37x the difference in gas mileage is incredible.. The 5 speed with the VQ35DE HR really gives no shits about gas mileage, I usually average 21-23 if I am lucky and 25-26 all highway while our G37 will average 27 mpg with some city, we took it on a road trip and it got 32!
Leme guess... You're 16 or even younger, and you have never had experience with BMWs? Just like almost everyone else who says that "BMWs are unreliable"
@clarkdef I know you were just kidding but, that is pretty funny... "The Jermans" LOL... Just incase you weren't kidding, it's Germans... I'm sure you were though ha ha.
@DATcrazyArchitect I have a 2006 325i 6-speed. it's fun to drive but i'm in the dealership for repairs atleast one every two months. if you get the BMW you are taking a risk, you might get lucky and not see many problems. But look at the recent reliability ratings from Consumer Reports (December 2010 issue). Infinity is #5, BMW is #20. Plus the g37 is $10k cheaper. Test drive them both and decide if the badge is worth $10k.
I still love my Infiniti I have the exact specs as the test car 2008 ans everything and this car PERFORMS just wish Nissan have it more sauce from the factory but the sport akebono brakes and rotors are massive and and do their job exceptionally well. 10/10 would recommend if you can find a clean example
It has better engines, oh are you talking about the one that started over heating after only 3 laps of hard running? Is that the same engine you are talking about?
The brakes on the m cars of late have not been the best. But the coolers for the engines work just fine, in this video it was the turbos wich got overheated because they don't have any cooling.
3:40 clearly the car was losing control, but the dude has the skills to counter steer it back. Most average drivers will lose control of the car right there in that situation unless the VDC is on, over dry pavement. That, happened at the same spot during each lap. The BMW can't handle that part. The Infiniti has better handling hands down.
Torque determain how much mass the engine can move, and the power determains how fast the torque can move the mass. It's that simple. If you don't belive me, prove me wrong.
LOL @ all the bimmer haters. The same kind of people who would throw a COBB tune and lowering springs on a 335, drive it with no respect whatsoever, skipping oil changes and never letting the turbos cool down after a spirited drive. My 335 hasn't exactly been problem free, I'm the first to admit its flaws, it's also fair to say that it was BMW's first turbo engine after decades of NA engines, while the VQ had already seen a bunch of design revisions by the time the G37 came out. Both are great cars, definitely for different people. A 335 requires a different amount of stress tolerance to stomach large repair bills, but then again, there's a price for everything.
quite a price difference between these cars when brand new...without flashing the 335i ecu, the performance is very similar tho the G is definitely a rougher car.
@ariafreak check your stats... the 335 is faster from 0-60 (by about 0.3 not 0.1) and on the quarter mile. You can feel the difference when you drive them as well. They are pretty even at higher speeds in terms of acceleration though but not from a standstill. You are also wrong about the limiter, the BMW does have a limiter. Your source is not very reliable.
@postersurfman1 And that is one of the reasons they are going to use turbochargers on their cars, to save fuel mileage. They just need to work to work on a more reliable set up for their cars. On this particular car, the 335i which has the N54 motor sometimes has fuel pump problems, im not sure but i think BMW has a released a new pump that solved the problem, so its just a step closer to perfection.
I know what you're saying for example I'll pick Alfa 159 TI instead of anything on its class including both of these rides despite de electrical issues Alfa is known for
My 2010 G37S sedan has 90K and still runs like a champ...solid and reliable car!
170K on my 08 G37S 6MT. And still taking all the abuse I put it through! Extremely reliable cars!
@@c_rodtv4880 exactly the same here
I have always loved BMWs and Mercedes and still do, but my G37x is just unbreakable. I never even think about the possibility of it breaking because it simply doesn't. The AWD is amazing too. Woke up one morning for work and there was literally snow up to the top of the hood and the snowbank the snowplow made. I didn't expect the car to actually go through it but I thought wth..may as well give it a try. Drove through it like it wasn't even there. I drive it like a complete jackass too. I am hooked. Next car will be a newer Infiniti.
Brandon Bloedow Fuck yeah G all day. I literally get like 10 MPG the way I drive my G. Lol
***** If I could get free tires from somewhere...oh man. Would repave the streets with rubber.
Brandon Bloedow Speed, power and performance can be seen is several vehicles of this price range but G37 can never come close to a BMW, given the the beemer's handling, road feel and stylish body. G37 is a blotted sports car with a fugly look. Even in next ten years it cannot even come close to an E92 body and styling.. period
I agree 100% on the performance. The coupe is not a good looking car at all.
Brandon Bloedow the coupe is sexy as hell to me! Its dreamy!
Very fair call on the winner on this. Gotta keep in mind the g37 gave them no problems, it cost less, and way cheaper to maintain while being more reliable. Its less tunable but a very good fun daily car. I'd give it to the g37 on this one too
I agree with all of this, except less tunable. Sharing the VQ motor with the 370z and the GT-R gives the G37 a pretty huge aftermarket. Not sure how it compares to this generation 335i but I bought my G37 only after discovering I'd have lots of aftermarket options for the car. Maybe you're right and 335i has a larger aftermarket and is easier to tune, but at least worth pointing out the G37 is no slouch in this category.
the n54 335i e90s are super tuneable like a jb4 TUNE adds 100hp and 100ftlb of torque plus down pipes is 30 extra hp too.......irealllllly wish they were more reliable tho ughhh@@examancer
Carl Zulauf g37 has a VQ and gtr has a VR
@@examancer nah an n54 will dog on a vq, especially if you go single turbo.
That Beemer is more for enthusiasts people not for teenagers without knowledge.
The money you will spend in 335i repairs you can use it on a g37 to add a stillen supercharger.
and this is why the G is a better buy. I love the looks of bmw inside/out but for the money I went with G35x and drive it Harrrd daily with 0 issues! People I know with bmw are constantly having issues. Infinity G makes over 300hp with no turbo, yet bmw twin turbo is barely 300hp for more $$ No thanks.
+Josh Sarabia With under $1500 in mods, (JB4, downpipes, intercooler) you're easily over 430whp.... so what were you saying again?
+S2k2014 And about $2500 in repair shortly after the mods and another $1000 in random repairs constantly as these cars are WELL known for and most shops refuse to work on bmw because of this so that means frequent trips to dealer or $peciality import $hop... Thats what I was saying bruh.
+Josh Sarabia As s2k2014 stated, you have no idea the tuning possibility of the 335i. with just a software tune (everything stock) the car makes over 400hp... try doing that to your G.
+XMG3 Thats not what my comment was about. I simply said when I campared these 2 before purchasing the G was a better buy as far as reliability and hp out of the box. I could make my infiniti tt or sc but thats not what I and most people buy brand new luxury cars for. As I stated before and many G owners will tell you these cars are bullet proof so I dont know about you but I dont like my car breaking down when I drive it harrrd or go into limp mode. My Audi was the same way and I will never buy german cars again. Lesson learned!
Hell yeah. I always have great times racing people no matter win or lose but I guess I'm just an enthusiast and not a full on addict with a budget problem. All I know is having a car out of service for need of repair is worse than losing 50 races. I'll take the G ;-) plus the handling looks soo much better on this video. Looked so drifty and smooth, bimmer always looked out of control and jerky all video long
I don't know about you all, but looking at the two videos I can't help but notice how smooth and drifty the G was in the turns while the 335i looked like he was about to lose control at any minute. I'm sure partly from the LSD, but still.
It's absolutely about the diff.I have the same as the looser car and agree with the winner.
Turbos, in short, pack more air into the cylinders thus creating more power. They do this by using the exhaust to power the turbo fan to compress air into the cylinder. If you in fact do not know.
BMW breaks down during the comparison and the result is Motor Trend is only *leaning* towards the G37?!? Man, that BMW cachet is pretty tough to overcome.
Lol. Yeah the 335i was pretty cool back in the day but history has shown that they are pretty unreliable
you’re dumb
@@legendkiller1290 butt hurt?
@@revaholic Pretty cool back in the day? With the tunes, bolt-ons, and upgrades on the market now days for these N54 powered 335's do you even know what they are capable of? Also, stop spreading misinformation as I take it you have never owned a 335i. They really are not unreliable cars. Sure, there are some horror stories. There are also plenty like my own 335i which have been on the road for over 12 years now and have experienced minimal, minor issues.
I’ve got the “reliable” facelift 335i with the n55 and even that’s unreliable. Some people do get lucky but the generally you have to have money aside for repairs if you want to own these cars
He drove the G a lot better than the bmw.
Yea the BMW fish tailed, the G was way more responsive in control
Roy Rodezno thas bc he wanted to. The 335i make it max hp and tp lower in the rpm than the g37
I used to own a 335xi, every time I floored the car the check service engine light come on and tells me to go easy on the throttle, same thing with my buddies X5. in 2 years I've lost count of how much I spent on the BMW for repairs. I now own a g37x for a year now and the only thing it needed was new tires, brakes, and regular maintenance. Much better daily and will save you lots of money down the road. But if you have deep pockets. Knock yourself out with the bmw. it's a nice ride when it's not in the shop.
+kadaji Yang you bought a lemon i guess
Sadly you probably bought the car with the engine of a Honda on it m8
truest shit i ever read
Chris Sierra I don't know about you but Honda's last a lot longer than bmws that's a fact
OscarWithC Not a lemon. the service guy even told me it's a common issue with those cars
Your right about 335's being everywhere. But one thing is for sure g37 is still a Nissan and v6 engines are used for truck motors and mid sized FWD drive sedans where as a 335i is Dohc Inline 6 Bi-Vanos VVT Twin Turbo and direct fuel injection engine closer to a RB26DETT (R34) the only thing is a 335i has 300hp and 300lbs. Both these cars are highly respected before you say anything you should get behind the wheel of the 335.
If the 335i did not go into limp mode it would have won over the g37. This issue has already been address to bmw and now the 335 sport package comes with oil coolers to prevent over heating. So they should have a 2nd run to see how well the bmw stands up on the track.
The 335i has an inherent HPFP malfunction for the years 2007 to 2010. The fuel pump problem has recently been fixed. The cooling problem has been addressed with a factory oil cooler and intercooler.
One of the most epic videos on RUclips!
Loool cooling issues it held up but then failed... aint notthing but a G thang
buy the G and get N/A mods to push you up closer to 400 bhp and it will still cost less than the 335
+icarrydateam for 500 you can get a jb4 for the 335i plus the 20 extra from the bmws performance power kit
IViftyhands what kind of gains?
IViftyhands the jb4 is pretty cool..i still wouldn't buy a bimmer though, too unreliable, imo...
i have one . which is pre owned . I've had it for 1 year now and only had 1or 2 problems which were minor . thats really all about it .. don't believe everything you hear.
i had a buddy who worked in the maintenance dept at a local BMW dealer....he told me millionaires would return their leases b/c "I can't afford the maintenance" and of course the 100s of other stories i have heard...the engines are good n trannys decent, but all the surrounding components aren't....turbos going out at 60k miles and costing nearly 5 figures to replace is unacceptable.
G37 all day, everyday!
the motor needs to breathe better is all..just needs aftermarket intercooler and intake. obviously it's not an excuse but a BMW is a BMW i stand by my choice of getting the 335 instead of an infiniti ;)
G37 is basically a tank! Reliable and fast every day!
I agree 110% with you, I too prefer Infiniti (even though I don't have one). But if I had a luxury car it would be an Infiniti G37 4 door Sedan.
THERE GOES THE FUEL PUMP! POS 335.. I have problems with my injectors! Avoid this car like the plague.. It's very expensive to own for repairs!
Or make sure yours is a N55 no problems at all
3 years 500$ of oil changes sparkplugs and a new set of injectors wonderful car
Yea, I had the 2007 335i.. The car drove like a dream (driving on the freeways here in LA was like cutting butter with a warm knife), but the fuel pump issue (the limp mode) stained my experience.
I've owned both, loved both. I have a BMW now and was debating between a BMW 3 convertible or the g37 coupe. I love my torque so I'm leaning toward the BMW but they cost way more to service and repair, so ugg, why can't I just afford a Maserati Quatraporte???!!!
wow i can't believe the ultimate driving maching couldn't finish all three laps i own a g37 and before that a g35 but both times i was car shopping i looked at the 3 series i guess i did good
i like the way my g37 handles but I've been driving a g for the past 10 years so i guess I'm just used to em I'm on to a sedan these days cuz idunno bout bmws but u can't haul shit in this car
+Junaid Khan He praised the torque (which I think he's actually praising the power band) and sound deadening.
Not the handling. He complimented the g37 on it's handling and making faster track times.
BMWs are notorious for bad cooling. I worked at Classic BMW here in Plano Tx... So so so so many cars would come in overheating. Brand new cars.
They quit having us top the cars off with coolant. Instead they'd give us water b/c they KNEW the cars would have a water pump failure in the near future anyway.
U should've bought a G35S Manual Sedan 2007 bc it's the fastest car Infiniti had before the Red Sports. Believe it or not, the G37 did have a hp difference over a G35 (328hp-306hp), but the G35 weighed a bit more. The fastest G37 was the G37 Sport Coupe Manual in which did a 0-60 in 5.2, but the G35 Sport Sedan Manual 2007 did a 0-60 in 5 seconds flat.
+Cnoteblazinitup the g37 weighed more my bad
He sounds conflicted when he's in the 335i... The brakes are fading... It's limping along, won't let him accelerate... But the car's an absolute dream.
Both cars are amazing nuff said... The BMW 335I is probably faster than the G37 but it doesn't matter because the 335i isn't even the direct competitor to the G37; it's the 328i. So, yes, for the price, in this case Infiniti wins for sure. But (besides the cooling issue) the 335i should beat a G37. However, I look forward to the day when Infiniti creates a G to dethrone the 335i. It will be interesting
@ariafreak I am not biased.I actually just got a g37 coupe this month, I was between the 335 and the g37. I personally think the G37's interior is far better than the BMWs, it is almost as fast and you get more luxury extras for the money. The bmw has a better power and torque curve, easy to see why it is a little faster. Go to any car magazine website, there are plenty of comparos out there between the two. Road and track has a good article comparing the S4, G37, 335 and TL, or google it
when the Q50 comes out, it will be interesting to see how well it competes with BMW
not only is the g37 cheaper and more reliable, it is much livelier and confident on the track...no contest.
BMW has added Oil coolers to 335i's with the Sport package to prevent this over heating issue. If you're still arguing about the limp mode, that argument is completely moot now.
My 09 BMW is going into production in just a couple days! The BMW was just more refined than the G.
What no one mentions is the extra 30lb-ft of torque the BMW has at 1300RPM through 5k RPM that is much more useful than the 30 extra hp.
Both great cars, you guys should just admire 2 great cars instead of complaining.
hey man, what type of automobile do you drive? Ferrari?
HELL YEA, VQ POWER BABY.
Just what I thought from a BMW . A excellent car with terrible reliability record.. I will stick with my G37 all day long . Rough , tough , and badass . Easy to maintain and fun to drive .
@Roman bro tell me about it I have an e46 since I got it its been pure headaches their nice cars but damn to many problems from oil leaks to control arms and over heating , now I'm looking into a g37 hopefully I have better luck
lol you'd think that a car company with so much experience would remember that a 300HP turbo car needs an oil cooler when they roll it out of the factory. Nice one XD
I have owned both the G and now a 335i, for the money I think these are two of the best cars out there. Both have there pluses. G has better seats, exhaust, cup holders (very important), stock rims, mirror controls, air conditioner, seating position, flow of interior / stiffer suspension. BMW incomparably outperforms the G with a $1k JB3 Upgrade, far more torque througout the powerband, car feels more solid with a smoother ride, Auto wipers and seatbelts are nice on the BMW
@Lunatic0001 Another guy on this same page said something similair to what u said about the 335i specs. He said they underrated it b/c of the M3, not detuned though. He said it produces about 330-350 at the crank. About that Dinan chip. What are the MPG after it recieves it?
I've got the 335is which comes with an additional radiator and oil cooler. It's factury tuned over the regular 335i and the oil temp never crosses 260 degrees even when flat out going 160+ mph
i love my G37. Wouldn't trade it for a 335i. Sports cars that cant do sports without breaking/shutting down are not sports cars. G37 ftw.
I think 2007 was the first year of the 335i. Not to defend the car in any way but for most any car, the first year is going to have bugs/issues.
Just out of curiosity have you (or anyone else for that matter) ever had issues with the 6spd transmission in the G37 coupe? My brother has the 6speed auto (2009) and it's giving him some weird issues, popping into neutral and whatnot for no reason. This usually occurs after hard braking or after a sharp turn.
11 years late but the 09 g37 has a 5 speed auto. The newer ones have 7 speeds
I love when people call others biased and then immediately follow with their own incredibly biased comment.
oh yea i had that problem on a hot day... sucks but just restarted it and it went back to normal....upgrading intercooler did solve the problem tho
Japanese cars in general have torque when they get to the high RPM, while euro cars got linear torque distribution, so based on this one can easily see why German cars tend to have constant acceleration from start while virtually all Japanese cars need to get the high RPM before you can feel the pull... It's really a huge equation one should be looking at - torque, hp, mass, weight distribution, center of gravity, braking power, etc
I owned a 335i for 4 years. I cannot remember one month in the long 4 years I had it that the check engine did not come on.
Well im glad that issue has been resolved
Actually I did not change the subject. I responded to what you said while asking what you meant by "invinity" if you cant see that then I dont know what to tell you. Yes ive driven a BMW, they are nice, but only when they are not in the shop.
I now have both G37 and 335i and 340xi. Even with supercharger working on G37 the heavily modded BMWs are faster but when I do get in the G, it just feels so right. Idk. Just put a short shifter on my 340 which is nice but shifting the OEM G37 still feels so much better
This is funny. I have a 08 G37S and one of my buddies is a BMW guy who recently traded his 08 335i coupe for a 2010 M3 (I have a 0-140 or so run video on my channel) and the first thing he said when I first showed him my car was how much nicer the Infiniti interior is. Both his bimmers (not beamer, beamer are the BMW bikes) have the same interior from ten years ago. Even his M3 has an interior that's nothing to talk about.
I am so getting this Infinity cant wait for spring to roll in, watch out BMRS. My fingers and toes are itching already.
This is one reason why I prefer the NA engine in my E46 M3. The 335i is very impressive, but it wasn't designed for the track.
@dimitry4all nope. im from philippines. yeah good idea. smoked tail lights look good on the g37 :) deep dish 5 spokes looks good IMO :P
cool. how do u like the M3. its a beast
cooling issues or was it actually fuel pump issues?
@FA5Kris Where did u find out about the real specs for the 335i? Did some company or car magazine dyno test it? I'm still amazed at Nissan for getting 330 h/p out of a V6 without turbos or a supercharger & still gets around the same MPG. That shows how efficient & well design the car is. Its great engineering. It also shows the potential it has if u were to put turbos or a supercharger on the motor. We would see around 375-425 horsepower!!!
Good explanation. I was wondering what happened. Thanks!
@postersurfman1 it has .7 more liters or displacement. If BMW wanted to go the route of all motor they could of gotten 360 hp considering the M3 has a V8 with 1.4 more liters. But instead theyre trying to go the f/i route. In which they are doing very well in.
@xVEINYWEDGEx I'm just stating how well design the Nissan is. The BMW is nice too, but I'm not that impressed. What is the f/i route?
Also, HP really stands for engine power output, which if ppl did their homework well would know is actually a proportional related to RPM and TORQUE at the same time.
Power (hp) = Force (lb) * Velocity (MPH)/const
, now this said it doesn't take PhD to see what low RPM and no torque does to you...
BMW stands for "Big major wrecked" over rated Automobile. Ultimate driving machine my ass ive own 3series and 5series and both cars stayed in the shop. Thus hint "HIGH MAINTENANCE ".Imho Infiniti a way better car with No problems and more stock power without turbos..
If we're talking reliability the Infiniti wins hands down, they're consistently rated "excellent" by consumer reports. But the 335i has had nothing but problems from the get go. I actually considered ditching my G35 for a 335i but a buddy of mine got one and it has been nothing but trouble, he's already dumped $4k into since he bought it. That's unacceptable for a 3 year old car that cost $50k originally.
I'm a card carrying BMWCCA and PCA member. I've come back to Infiniti because both Porsche and BMW have disappointed me. BMW 335i DOES overheat at the track since 2007 and has poor brakes, I've had 2. How long until BMW can fix this? I tried Porsche Cayman S, it has well documented oil ingestion problems at the track. In fact, almost every Porsche shy of the GT series has track issues.
If I'm paying more for track creds, then they need to perform at the track.
I've owned both a G and a 3-series, both are great cars.
it was a oil temp problem? is this model the nonsport one with no oil radiator?
I have a 2010 335xi never gave me problems after I did a charge pipe upgrade and intercooler. I took mines to the track when it was stock and I never had cooling issues. I must say, it's very reliable tho
Another N54 335i owner here. Mine has been incredibly reliable. Isn't it funny how a vast majority of the comments bashing the N54 reliability are from people who have never owned a 335i? I think many people are jealous that the N54 335i absolutely obliterated the competition, so people claim its unreliable. 500hp from a tune, bolt-ons, and an E85 mix is unheard of for a stock turbo, stock fueling, stock internal 3.0L engine. The N54 did it. It still does it. And it does it reliably. IT'S 2019 AND BRAND NEW MID-RANGE SPORTS CARS CAN'T EVEN DO WHAT THE 2007-2010 335i CAN STILL DO TO THIS DATE.
I had the 07 BMW 328i coupe and I traded it in for an 09 Infiniti G37 coupe. All i can say is BMW is no longer the king of power and luxury. The Infiniti exceeded my expectation. Its the best investment I've done my whole life.
Bro you have to have a turbo to keep up with our G37's!!! we runnin stock motor ! And 335 still lost....Trashhhh!!!! i would never pay for a to shut off after i full lap!!!
G37/NISSAN SKYLINE 370GT FTW!!!!
IT'S A SKYLINE!!! WE ALWAYS WIN!
not a big fan of two seater, still goin to get G37 :D, but i do like some features on the new Z especially the rev match :D, G is a bit slower than the Z cuz of the weight, but acceleration isn't an issue for me cuz i'm gonna get it for luxury/sport part of it.
Those "minor" issues made it to production cars 335i Coupe, Sedan and the 535i 2008-2010; cooling and easily blown turbos...Long live the VQ!!!!!!!!!
All Japanese cars Easy n Cheap to maintain..
The early to mid 2000's Infiniti g and m series took the crown from BMW as the best sport sedans and with less reliability issues great job Nissan!
@Lunatic0001 On a CarAndDriver article, they reported that it gives a increase of 50-60 h/p if I remember correctly. I'll have to go back & read it again. This video comparison makes question the durability of the 335i since it had cooling issues & adding more boost causes more heat therefore needing better cooling efficiency. If the chip does what I read & what u said, why buy a M3?
Got my 09 G37x coupe today w/ NAV, Camera etc.. Traded in my 04 G35 coupe.
Reason: Ontario, Canada's Winter.. The G35 coupe was reliable and I expect the same thing with the G37x coupe.
I own a g35 v6 manual but I g37 have more horse power but my is more sporty look is a hard decision to move to g37
lol...the driver is practically jizzing while driving the 335....
@xVEINYWEDGEx Oh. I know what force induction is. I just couldn't figure out the abbrevations. When car makers go the all motor route, use small displacement & really high compression instead of force inductions, it sometimes uses more fuel,. Hence, the M3. The M3 V8 gets 14 city & 20 highway. The V8s in the Camaro SS & Mustang GT get about 15-17 city & 24-26 highway.
g37 is good car. great looking coupe. g37 is fast. g37 don't break if you do good maintenance and don't slam in potholes and speed bumps and do stupid things to the transmission. put rims on your g37. if you have an awd (g37x), turbocharge it be quicker than stock gtrs
+Cameron Jennings you could TT & S/C a g37 and a stock GTR would still leave it in the dust....GTRs are incredible machines.
HAHAHAHAHAHA ...the luxurious BRAND NEW BMW overheated LOLLL
I like both cars and I thought the turboed BMW would come out on top
But those heating issues have made me change my mind about all BMW products.
He was very close to losing control of the BMW around the corners.. Great driving
G for the Win!!
I've never watched these comparisons, I'm a driver, but I Knew this would be the ultimate outcome.
Infiniti has a good formula if Nissan is willing to stick to their formula and improve.
yeah you need to upgrade it with a aftermarker intake, them turbo's need air*, pu a procede stage 2 flash, intakem, and turbo back exhaust you'd take the e60 m5 on streets of willow and lay down over 400hp for about 3 and 1/2 grand
I own a g37 coupe heavy modded . Test drove a 335i today and holy crap the low end torque . The g is nicer in looks and features . But if u want the faster car 335i
Roclee612 I Ended up getting a 135i. When I owned a g37 i tried to convince myself it was fast. Truth is after thousands in upgrades u can make 30 extra hp if your lucky . Worse than that the car is very heavy and makes peak power at redline . The g35 was better in terms of sports over luxury . IMO the bmw is better in every way . And I finnaly understand what the hype was all about. And the red leather is beautiful .
Roclee612 I also have a jb4 only 500 bucks gives u 400+ hp.
***** yes flooring it may feel any quicker . Since the infinti tourqe builds untill redline it makes it feel quick .but since the bmw has tourqe low , daily driving feels very sporty .But it does lose power after around 5500rpm so you have to shift early to stay in boost . Twin turbo the infiniti and you will surprise a lot of people . The only reason I got rid of the inifiti was the horrible mpg I was getting . I had the 08 five speed auto
yes sir We have a 2007 G35x and a 2013 G37x the difference in gas mileage is incredible.. The 5 speed with the VQ35DE HR really gives no shits about gas mileage, I usually average 21-23 if I am lucky and 25-26 all highway while our G37 will average 27 mpg with some city, we took it on a road trip and it got 32!
yes sir Better in everyway?
You are stupid, BMW's are not reliable in the long run compared to other vehicles
3 series seem to be notorious for cooling system failures
Leme guess... You're 16 or even younger, and you have never had experience with BMWs? Just like almost everyone else who says that "BMWs are unreliable"
so which ones the better daily driver?
@clarkdef
I know you were just kidding but, that is pretty funny... "The Jermans" LOL... Just incase you weren't kidding, it's Germans... I'm sure you were though ha ha.
@DATcrazyArchitect I have a 2006 325i 6-speed. it's fun to drive but i'm in the dealership for repairs atleast one every two months. if you get the BMW you are taking a risk, you might get lucky and not see many problems.
But look at the recent reliability ratings from Consumer Reports (December 2010 issue). Infinity is #5, BMW is #20. Plus the g37 is $10k cheaper. Test drive them both and decide if the badge is worth $10k.
that's why there's a part one with him driving it, lol.
I still love my Infiniti I have the exact specs as the test car 2008 ans everything and this car PERFORMS just wish Nissan have it more sauce from the factory but the sport akebono brakes and rotors are massive and and do their job exceptionally well. 10/10 would recommend if you can find a clean example
It has better engines, oh are you talking about the one that started over heating after only 3 laps of hard running? Is that the same engine you are talking about?
The brakes on the m cars of late have not been the best. But the coolers for the engines work just fine, in this video it was the turbos wich got overheated because they don't have any cooling.
3:40 clearly the car was losing control, but the dude has the skills to counter steer it back. Most average drivers will lose control of the car right there in that situation unless the VDC is on, over dry pavement. That, happened at the same spot during each lap. The BMW can't handle that part. The Infiniti has better handling hands down.
Torque determain how much mass the engine can move, and the power determains how fast the torque can move the mass. It's that simple.
If you don't belive me, prove me wrong.
My mom just got an Infiniti G37. I love it.
LOL @ all the bimmer haters. The same kind of people who would throw a COBB tune and lowering springs on a 335, drive it with no respect whatsoever, skipping oil changes and never letting the turbos cool down after a spirited drive.
My 335 hasn't exactly been problem free, I'm the first to admit its flaws, it's also fair to say that it was BMW's first turbo engine after decades of NA engines, while the VQ had already seen a bunch of design revisions by the time the G37 came out.
Both are great cars, definitely for different people. A 335 requires a different amount of stress tolerance to stomach large repair bills, but then again, there's a price for everything.
I saw a 335i 2 door abandoned on the side of a freeway today lmao
quite a price difference between these cars when brand new...without flashing the 335i ecu, the performance is very similar tho the G is definitely a rougher car.
@ariafreak check your stats... the 335 is faster from 0-60 (by about 0.3 not 0.1) and on the quarter mile. You can feel the difference when you drive them as well. They are pretty even at higher speeds in terms of acceleration though but not from a standstill. You are also wrong about the limiter, the BMW does have a limiter. Your source is not very reliable.
@postersurfman1 And that is one of the reasons they are going to use turbochargers on their cars, to save fuel mileage. They just need to work to work on a more reliable set up for their cars. On this particular car, the 335i which has the N54 motor sometimes has fuel pump problems, im not sure but i think BMW has a released a new pump that solved the problem, so its just a step closer to perfection.
Buying a BMW not only buys you a new car, but it buys you a new attitude. Every single BMW driver I have seen drives like complete jerks.
I know what you're saying for example I'll pick Alfa 159 TI instead of anything on its class including both of these rides despite de electrical issues Alfa is known for