Intro to Extreme Long Range: Part 1
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- Опубликовано: 17 июл 2024
- Part 1 of a 3 part series that provides a look at what it takes to get started in extreme long range shooting. In part one we take a look at caliber and bullet selection, rifle and optic selection as well as handload performance requirements. We also set a 100 yard performance baseline to build on in parts 2 and 3.
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00:00 Intro
02:20 What is extreme long range?
03:30 Caliber selection
05:45 Bullet selection
07:10 Velocity discussion
09:09 Optics & Mount
11:24 Accuracy discussion
12:09 100 yard performance example
14:02 100 yard target review
15:18 Summary 
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This is such an excellent channel for just starting out. Much better than a lot of the bigger guys.
Appreciate that! My goal is to create content that’s entertaining but also relatable for everyone. Hope you stick around for part 2 and 3!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I certainly will! And I really want to pick up an MRAD. Have you considered getting more calibers for it beyond the two you already have?
@@ProGunsZach I've actually got 3 calibers at the moment, 300PRC, 338LM and 6.5CM which I haven't shown on the channel yet. The only other caliber I really want at the moment is 300NM. Hopefully caliber conversion kits become available again sometime soon so I can pick one up.... would highly recommend the MRAD, great rifle!
Super impressive. Great style, content, delivery, and production value. Thanks for putting all your info out there!
I appreciate that! Thank you for taking the time to watch and comment!
Love this channel. Happy to be in early. Keep it going! You’ve inspired me to start making content again.
Appreciate it! I just hit you with a subscribe, love the mk12 content!
Awesome video, and excited for Whats to come! Keep it up 💪🏻
Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment!
Thank you so much for the great information! I’m a seasoned hunter and am just now beginning my long range journey. I have a rifle coming in a few days and will use your advice for setup and improvements. Thanks again
Excited to find this channel. Great content. I’m just starting to gather info and been looking hard into a 300Norma or 338Edge with an edge on the Edge for splash.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch my videos! I see you also found the newer videos where I am able to incorporate a scope cam to give a first person view so hoping that added to the experience! I really think either the 300NM or the 338 edge would be a great choice. Personally I'd lean more to the 300NM but the 338 edge would get you a bit more speed out of the .338 caliber which would make that much more attractive to shoot ELR,
Your channel is incredible! Keep it up
Appreciate you taking the time to watch! Stay tuned, I’ve got a ton of content ideas I’m working on.
Very well done. Feel like this is a professional instructional video. Your overview of equipment and capabilities is very helpful. On to parts 2 and 3!
Dang old heck.. ya answered all my questions with this video! Nice work and thank you.
Never owned a gun but I'm a beast with a Red Ryder. I've always wanted to do long distance target shooting however and you make it even more interesting! You have a great delivery brother, appreciate your concise sharing of knowledge! Have to subscribe to support this great channel!
Thank you for taking the time to watch and appreciate the compliments! Maybe I’ll have to drop a red Ryder at long range video sometime haha
Excellent video as always!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great, practical advice!
This will be a great series to see and fallow. I wanted to make a similar video series except’ show what the max distance I could shoot with my budget build vs my High end (to me) build. My budget setup is howa 1500 in 300wm set in an oryx chassis with an Arken sh4gen2 vs my rpr in 300wm with the leupold mark 5hd I mentioned in a previous comment on your barret vs Ruger video. I think it would be informational to show people what the limits of your gear choices are vs what people imagine they would be. Anyways brother Im really liking your content and the absence of “gun snob” attitude you see on other channels. I know you have awesome gear that most people can’t afford but your not big headed about it and that’s what makes you easy to watch. Looking forward to the rest of the series.
Oh man, I love the idea of putting you budget build against the RPR. I bet you'd find the budget build is very much on par with the RPR. It's really easy to get wrapped up in the gear and which brand name is best but my opinion it all comes down to the shooter..... A shooter that's got the fundamentals nailed and understands the concepts of marksmanship will be very effective regardless of the tools they use. Your idea is inline with something I've been thinking I might try to do and that is put something like a Bergara "hunting rifle" side by side with the MRAD for an ELR comparison. I really have no clue what to expect in that kind of match up. Appreciate the support!
I enjoyed your video I’m just getting into long range shooting. I have taken my 6.5 psa 10 out to 1000 yards I have a bergara hmr in the same caliber that I’m building. I plan to learn reloading to really dial in my accuracy. I have been watching lots of videos on the subject and a few tips that I can add toward your reloading that I’ve gleaned from the F class shooters is sort your bullets by weight neck tension is very important ( neck turning) they even point there bullets to make sure they are as close to identical as possible. I look forward to following your journey and learning as you go !!
Oh man, love that you mention neck tension..... this is exactly where I'm spending my time at the moment. Just picked up a new neck bushing for my 300PRC as I'm hoping a tweak here will help improve the performance I'm seeing. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and comment!
another great video bro
Thank you!
Great video brother. I was trying to decide between the 230 A-Tip and the 230g Berger OTM. I went with the Berger because they have been excellent in my 6.5 CM but I still want to try the A-Tip soon. I just loaded up a ladder test with Retumbo and ADG brass. I will let you know how I like them. Keep the great content coming!
The 230 Berger OTM is a great bullet. I worked up a load for them in my RPR when I first got the rifle. Never really pushed them to any distance however so I'll be curious to hear your experience! Thanks for watching
Loving this channel! So humble and easy to listen to without the macho attitude on other channels.
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel! Nothing macho here…. Just a regular guy trying to create entertaining content that provides the viewer some kind of valuable takeaway in each video. Hope you’ll stay tuned!
Great video
I like how you talk real numbers in shooting, realistic targets. So many internet shooters can shoot 1/2 moa all day. Interesting however I don’t see that when I’m at the range. Thanks for making it real.
I'd love to say I'm a half moa all day shooter but that just isn't the case and like you say it's tough to find folks who are truly capable of this..... I figure folks will appreciate a realistic look at what a "normal" shooter is capable of. Even though I'm not a half moa all day shooter, if you watch enough of my videos you'll see tiny groups aren't required to make consistent hits at distance.
Great content! Wind on the prairie is the bane of my existence. Every time I put something out 1k yards + it decides to blow like a gale. (Good for reading wind and not just wasting powder, right? 😛) Stepping up to a 300PRC this year, too. Heavier pills will help. So many variables to think about in the long range game. You have a very approachable and pragmatic approach. Keep it and look forward to more content!
Thank you, really appreciate you taking the time to watch and encourage! My channel has seen a ton of growth lately and I’ve got a lot of content planned for 2023 so stay tuned. Hoping to keep creating content with this format and feel.
Thanks for the content
Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Exact content I'm looking for as I'm also in the beginning stages of precision shooting at distance
Good stuff! Hope this kind of content is helpful. Stay tuned as I’m hoping to keep putting out content just like this!
Great videos brother. Subbed.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel!
Thanks for the video
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I have a Grendel AR and a 308 bolt. for long range. But really have no way to get no more than a 100yrds. Give or take some but Yeah nice to be able to be on a man’s play ground (beautiful land). Really nice to be able to see some one really putting in the work to do the explaining I’m really just learning my self and you make it easier to understand.
Oh man you can master the fundamentals at 100yds, then when you’re able to stretch further all you have to worry about is the dope and windage corrections. Appreciate you taking the time to watch! I’ve got a lot of fresh long range content planned for 2023 so stay tuned!
Thanks, another great shooting video.
And a 1 moa 5 shot group… that’s great.
So that’s less than 30” at 2700 yds.
Any deviation from that at the LR target must be SD and Wind.
Great channel.
100% my thoughts are the variation I see at those extreme distance are the result of velocity inconsistency and wind. A lot can happen to the bullet when it's flying that far haha
Could you make a reloading video of some of the components, primers, powders, process you use? Your videos are extremely informative and so well explained. Thank you for putting out quality content!
Great Content! Basically doing exactly what I would like to do with a RUclips channel. I hear you on the east coast bit and trying to find a place to shoot those distances. It's a rare thing here in North Carolina. Current record shot is 1,282 and am also working on cutting SD and Extreme Spread down. Keep chugging man! Loving your channel so far!
Thank you! Really cool to hear you’re liking the content I’m putting out. Hope you’ll stay tuned as I’ve got a ton of ideas in the works and it’s only a matter of time before I get them published. If you’re already connecting at 1282 and you’re working on getting your SD and ES down, you’ll be shooting a mile plus with ease in no time. What caliber are you running?
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Running a .300 win mag under an MOA. Trying to get that to under half an MOA. Thinking of starting to make some videos myself. Any advice or equipment recommendations for filming?
@@mattmoon782 the biggest thing, get yourself a microphone out of the gate. I didn't realize the value of a microphone and quality audio until I had already launched a couple videos. I'm just running iphones for video which I believe provide solid quality, just get yourself a couple of tripods that you can use to position the cameras where you want and easily. Also prior to rolling on video make sure you have your thoughts and key points to cover identified so you are clear and concise..... don't want to spend time rambling if you don't have to. In my experience viewers have short attention spans so have to be constantly changing things up to keep the viewers attention.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica absolutely! Really appreciate the advise! Thank you!
Shout out from Philippines 🇵🇭
Appreciate the shout out!
Money is an issue but Im defiantly headed in the 1000 yard range. After seeing this video, eventually headed where your at.
Yep I started out with a .308 178-200 grain bullets out to a mile then I built a 300 RUM because I wanted to shoot the 245 grain Berger bullets and needed a case with enough horsepower to do so. I built a rem 700 with a 32” Lilja Barrel in a Cadex chassis and I ended up getting 3140FPS with no pressure so I stayed there and so far I take. It out to 2500 yards with ease. Over here in Ohio it only took 95 moa of elevation to hit that. The rifle weighs 25lbs so recoil is less than my .308 just a lot louder hehe
That is awesome! I think 300RUM is a caliber that doesn't get enough recognition in the ELR world. Are you able to mag feed the rounds with the 245 berger or do you have to single load?
@@MountainsMulletsMerica no my rounds are 4.125” long to set them properly
Excellent video with lots of great information. What do you think about the 300 win mag? Does it have enough?
For sure, I think 300WM is a great round and very capable for ELR. Really I think it's very similar to the 300PRC in terms of performance. Key thing is bullet selection and making sure the rifle you run is setup to run the heavy bullets.... twist rate, throat etc.
Look at 6.5 or 270 mate
Another awesome video. I can't tell, do you have some type of level on the scope or your base? Human eye can only differentiate 3 degrees of cant or higher. I'm sure you know how much a canted rifle affects your bullet at ELR.
For sure, I'm actually running 2 levels haha. The spuhr mount has a bubble level built into the back of it which works fine for things like 100yd shooting. Then I also have a long range arms send it level that I install when shooting ELR as I feel like I can be more precise with it than a bubble level. Great comment and something I'll cover fairly in depth in part 2. Thanks for watching!
Very Good Videos! Do you have anything about your reloading both equipment and process especially for the 300 PRC? Also have you tried factory Hornady 225 Match past 1mile if so how did it do?
I’ve had a ton of requests for reloading focused videos but haven’t launched anything there yet. Maybe one of these days I’ll work on some reloading content. I also haven’t shot much of the Hornady factory 225 eld match ammo. The little bit that I shot when I first got into 300prc rather high ES and SD so rather than spending money on the factory stuff I decided to dive into reloading so I could fine tuned performance. I really can’t recall how the factory Hornady ammo performed at distance because I fired so little of it.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Thank you for the reply
ELR is a mile plus to me. 1200 yards is my longest shot but one mile is my goal for my 6.5 Creedmoor.
Really great video. Not a bunch of caveats and details.
Where are you? I live in Central MT. I’m guessing PNW
Yep, I'm currently in eastern WA state. Beautiful area. Appreciate you taking the time to watch and drop a comment!
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I think what is long range is relative to a particular cartridge. I.e. 500yds would be ELR to a 22lr but med-long range to to a 5.56
100% agree with this, great point. Hard to define ELR because there are so many variable.
I'm assuming you do your own reloading. Maybe its just me, but a video on that would be awesome.
Yes, I do reload the bulk of what I shoot and for sure reload all of the precision rifle that I shoot. I've actually received a couple of reloading related comments so that's a video I can put together. Gotta tell you though, that's an area I'm never satisfied and always tweaking haha
Im from the northeast, Boston area. So long distance is few and far between. There is one 1k yard range 2 hrs from me, but it requres a qualification, and its difficult. Need chronographed ammo and all that stuff. I know nothihg abiut it. Your channel will help me.
308 or 6.4 creedmore?..lol
And all the atacr scopes should be set on 60 moa bases to max out the internal elevation and that still gives you a 100 yd zero
Agreed, my setup could use just a bit more cant but not enough that it's worth buying new parts and swapping things around for me haha
It’s perfect to have good enough accuracy.
While I certainly have put down many .5 moa 5 round groups, they are not the norm for me. As I mentioned in the video my opinion is if you can consistently shoot MOA or less, you'll be very effective at distance. Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I am agreeing with you on that if I can shoot 1 moa that’s perfect to ding steel at long range. My statement was just general and I like your videos.
@@sramrajs All good, I knew you were in agreement there. Just thought I'd add some additional comment in my reply. I'd love to say I'm a .5 moa shooter all day but that's just not the case haha
What scope are you running?
I'm running the Nightforce Atacr F1 7-35 with tremor 3 reticle on my Mrad. Great optic.
where y get the range finder mount and what range finder u use one on top of scope
The handheld rangefinder is a sig kilo bdx 3k and it’s a solid rangefinder out to about 1500yds. It can go further if conditions are right or your target is reflective. The rifle mounted rangefinder is the Wilcox raptar….. very expensive but an epic piece of gear, especially if shooting at night.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica 10k wao ,,, i already got vortex razor 3000 i will stick with that,,,,,
@@jts1234 ah I think the $10k version has the built in ballistic calculator, mine does not have that capability so it’s a bit cheaper. I don’t see the point of the built in ballistic calculator given I move this frequently between multiple rifles.
I shoot 308 for price, but that only gets me out to around 1200 meters repeatedly with no crazy winds. I’d say 300 PRC is probably the best round past that.
Great to hear of another 308 shooter! Sometimes I wonder if anyone still shoots ole faithful anymore haha
@@MountainsMulletsMerica haha absolutely dude I really love that round from 1200 and in as long as the wind isn’t too crazy. Granted I wouldn’t run it in anything shorter than a 20” barrel and I try to use at least a 175smk. But I think it’s a fantastic round for those distances
@@KCYO0311 I'm planning to get a load put together with the 185 Juggernaut. On paper that looks to be an awesome bullet to push the limits on the 308
@@MountainsMulletsMerica dude would love to see a video on that and if it kills it I’ll totally copy cat you.
@@KCYO0311 Sounds good. I'll try to get one knocked out this summer!
did you try .22lr rimfire ELR ? .22lr is more cheaper , i can't afford centerfire ELR , and long distance range , say 300 yds more longer , is't availble .
I haven’t had the chance to try long range 22LR yet. I’m starting to get more and more comments on the topic so it’s likely something I’ll get into down the road but no experience with it currently. I know the idea of shooting a 22LR further than about 100 yds sounds just about as frustrating as it would be fun haha
Awesome video as usual. How about the .300 Win Mag? Have a Tikka 1:11 twist 24in barrel. Limited to 210gr until I get a custom barrel. Should work out to 1200m wouldn’t you say? Thanks Hamish
Oh man 300WM is a great round and is certainly a very capable ELR catridge. It depends a little bit on what size targets you're shooting but I'd say that package is easily capable of 1200m and I'd bet you'll even be able to push it further. I remember when the 208gr amax bullet was released, tons of folks were shooting that to a mile in 300WM.
Yes. Hoping to hit a mile without to many difficulties. I've been watching and taking in what you have been saying about the. 300prc for example in the Ruger RPR. Tikka rifles are phenomenal but a bit slow. The RPR has all the bits ie 26in barrel and good twist but when you have the carbon fiber stock, Bixn Andy trigger etc I'm kind of stuck to Tikka so will just get on with it 😊
Hi mate its very hard here in the uk to find a range to shoot long range and our police are trying so hard to stop us shooting long range and to limit on ammo i can only have 200 rounds of 308 for target shooting
Oh man that is a major bummer! Appreciate you taking the time to watch the video and support the channel!
what scope mount is that?
It’s the Spuhr SP-4016
Just bought a rpr in 300prc, now I need to save for a scope. Sure would be nice to be rich right about now lol
Very nice! That RPR in 300PRC is an awesome rifle! Look around for used scopes, you can save a decent amount of cash by looking for pre owned options vs new. Thanks for watching.
What is SD?
Standard deviation. It’s a measure of how consistent velocity is out of the rifle. Tells you statistically how close the shots in a string are to the average. The lower the Sd, the more consistent your velocity, in turn more consistent downrange elevation results will be.
Still working at 100 yards,, no long ranges available without driving a ways...
I want to come shoot with you so bad ive never shot farther than 300 i got no longer ranges near me
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