Agreed! Most other channels have done “edgy” BS. This channel is educational and therapy those of us on the east coast that cannot think about shooting at the distances you do.
Appreciate the support! My channel has seen a ton of growth recently and I’m super thankful this. I’m confident if I keep pumping out quality content it’s only a matter of time before the channel gets huge!
No one is going to believe this, but when I was 21 years old, I took a Rack grade M16A2 with Iron sights, M855 Ball and made a first round impact on the standard issue USMC qualification target at 1,000 yards. I hit it in the head. Open sights, using a Canvas web sling, and an issue leather work glove. I don’t remember how many times I hit it, but I feel dam proud of myself now. I never thought it was a big deal until I saw this video. I dialed the rear sight to 800 Meters plus a couple clicks until it maxed out. then as my breath exited my lungs and my front sight post was even with the target frame, all while putting a very slow steady trigger squeeze. I made a few hits.
A 20" 1:9 twist M16A2 with open sights was the standard then for us Army Grunts in the late 80s. We had the pop up targets from 25m to 300m and advanced marksmanship moving targets as well. M855 with a 20" barrel can hit 800 plus meters on a good day easily. Much respect to you Marine! Rangers Lead The Way!!
You get a like 👍🏾 for the long ass walk you had to take to bring us this great content. I aspire to be the marksman that you are. Phenomenal shooting Sir!
I think most people would say a "normal" or at least original as designed length barrel is 20"... Also he has a massive can on there and yes that makes a difference so it's pretty close. Take the can off and you're going to see a huge performance drop.
Question for you sir,......accuracy is dependent upon sound/signature mitigation & back pressure? I understand a can will shrink group sizes down for most rifles but I'm not sure it will make that much difference. Maybe a 10% to 15% decrease at the longer distances.. ammunition and optic along with the ability to spot misses play a larger role at those distances has been my experience, and is more important in my opinion. What do you think?
@@beargillium2369 how would the suppressor have any noticeable effect? Beyond the expected 50ft/s or so from increased pressures that wouldn't be considered noteworthy for a 2800ft/s projectile
@@beargillium2369 From measuring velocities for 5.56,.308, .277 Fury, and .338NM with and without suppressors. Have velocity data with SD's for about 10,000 rounds of factory ammo, and another 30,000 without detailed SD's If you're seeing a larger increase than about 40-50ft/s for 2500-3500ft/s MV projectiles, something is wrong with your gun or the lot of ammo
You’re the only shooting channel I’ve seen with HLG HDR image setting, it looks AMAZING. Some of the best most concise info on long range shooting as well, not bad kid!
Oh man I’ve had a ton of growth within the last 6 weeks or so. Super exciting. Lots more content planned, just have to find time to get it all filmed and edited. Should be able to hit fresh content pretty hard in March.
Great video. People under estimate the ar 15. I shoot 62 grain on all my ar platforms. My ars are more budget ars but they love 62 grain and I bought bulk ammo years ago. Keep up the great videos brother!!!!
Thank you! I bet 62gr ammo would have performed a little better than the 55gr did. The 62gr bullet might be a better match for the 1/7” twist of this barrel. I bet you’re glad you invested in ammo back in the day! Prices are nuts right now.
I don't have personal experience with the new reticle in the ATACR 1-8 but after spending time with this 1-10 I'm sold on this thing. I'm not really sure what the ATACR 1-8 would have to offer that would change my opinion. My favorite part about the 1-10 is the transparent center dot.
I've been thinking about building a 14.5" for 500m and in but I was worried it might be somewhat unrealistic. This definitely erased most of my doubts. Sub 16" with the right ammo is clearly very effective. Very good video!
Oh man 14.5" is more than capable to 500m, hands down my favorite barrel for a 556 rifle. Check out my more recent video where I show how 556 compares to 762 in a DMR role. ruclips.net/video/vuRkQZzVR8g/видео.html If you go 14.5" you won't be disappointed!
My opinion the scope cam footage has really taken my videos to the next level. Makes for a much better viewing experience as you can see what I'm seeing and talking about when I shoot. Thanks for watching and stay tuned as I've got a bunch more cool video ideas in the works!
Awesome video! I regularly shoot my 18 inch AR out to 500 meters. Range goes to 800 meters. This video has encouraged me to step up my game and get consistent at 800.
Good stuff! I bet you’ll be really impressed what your 18” rifle is capable of with a nice match bullet! Depending on your range conditions 556 can get hard to spot past 600yds or so in my experience. That little round barely moves the plate or makes a splash in the dirt.
Great video! I might add that twist might come in to play especially at those distances. I know a 77 is going to prefer a faster twist like 1:7 more than a 55 that might prefer something like a 1:10. What are your thoughts? Again, I appreciate your videos and you’re doing great man! New subscriber here!
Have to say probably one of the best exhibitions that actually ANSWERS THE QUESTION!! Army qualifying with the M16 A1 (80's) we go out to 300m with 3 sec to kill two pop-ups using the iron sights as we had no fancy ACOG. M193 ball. Obviously, you prove it can go out another 100 (you did not state the twist rate of that barrel). Anyway, I picked-up a UTG 3-9x32 for Christmas a couple of years ago and did quite well first time out. Then 2nd time, consistency was all over. Realized turrets were opposite of moving POI to POA! Recently bore-sighted it and corrected the collar spacing so hoping to perform better next time. Would like to know what you used to get scope picture into video? Demonstration of holdover best I've seen to date!
Growing up as a fan of long range shooting on the east coast I always dreamed of the opportunity to shoot in a place like this. Really blessed to now have access to such a cool area to get to shoot. Thanks for watching!
I have an idea for a video that I've been trying to search for... a comparison of all the different 77gr BTHP ammo out there... (plus the Hornady 75gr BTHP since it's close enough). I not only want to see accuracy but ballistic gel comparisons.
The 77SMK kinda changed the game for AR15s, especially in the shorter barrels. I have a 12.5 MLG(regain some of that 18 RLG softness) i run a 2.5-10 on, and find that while yes its not quite as good at range as my SPR, the difference inside ~600y is minimal enough that if you have a reason to want more agility / storage practicality, its an easy tradeoff. The falloff of 556 past that, with any practical barrel length, really makes little difference and its all about your wind skills at that point. I do think the 13.9/14.5 is more where you want to be, but i had a specific place i wanted to be able to store it, and the 12.5 + LAW made that work. The only thing holding the setup back at range is the loss of running something like a 18x MK5, where i think a vast majority of the power of the more modern SPR setup lays. There is no reason you couldnt run something like that on a 12.5, i just thought a lighter 10x with a faster reticle was a more balanced choice, for myself. Do think the basic rule of take the longest barrel you have no reason not to take still applies, but i think a lot of people tend to overestimate how much advantage that longer barrel gets you. Its power really lies more in the wiggle room it gets you when shooting at changing UKD intermediate targets than extending range, but again its pretty minimal. Keep it comin man. Criminally underrated channel.
Great comments here that I 100% agree with. For sure I think the success you see in longer barrel AR precision rigs is usually due to the optics package but as you mention often times these optics packages aren't the most practical on a "fighting" AR. Personally I don't see the need in a 5.56 AR with a barrel longer than 14.5" anymore. I've found the shorter barrel rifles very capable for the distances I want to shoot 5.56, if I need more energy or distance I've got other larger calibers I can utilize. Thanks for watching! I'm a new channel so we're just getting going but it's your support that's going to make us big time in no time!
I'll have to round up an 18" upper but I bet I can pull it off. It would be interesting to see how the 14.5 stacks up against and 18. I know I was shocked at how well the 14.5 performed especially in the wind when I filmed this. Thanks for taking the time to check out my video!
I got a 14.5 with a 5x scope and it just good all around shooter. Im going to subscribe because the way you put this video together is very practical. Slick content man
Almost skipped this video when it came up in one of my searches because of the channel name. Glad I didn't! I really enjoyed this video and several others that I have since watched. Great content and you're good at what you do. You have a new subscriber and the name has since grown on me:)
Man I’m glad you didn’t skip my video haha. I actually debated the channel name a long time before launching. I ended up going with MMM as I wanted a name that was somewhat vague enough that I could potentially expand the channel into other types of content down the road while still showing I’m a lover of our American freedoms! Lots of fresh content in the works so I hope you’ll stay tuned! Thanks for the support!
Great shooting and good video, thanks for making! I've shot my 18" supressed Mk12 with Mk262 mod1 to 1K on multiple occasions, I had my Mk4 MR/T maxed out on elevation with the M3 knobs and had a 3.5 mil holdover, and can only do it in dead calm winds at my pressure station. The Crane center certainly did their homework with this rig!!!
Man that’s awesome! Given how the 14.5” barrel performed I’m sure an 18” MK12 is a blast to stretch to 800+ yds. The challenge for me is spotting impacts that far out with 556. Not much energy left out there to make a splash. Thanks for watching!
About two weeks ago I came across one of your videos (MRAD vs. RPR) and loved it. Great format, excellent content and presentation. Subscribed on the spot. Since you have the distance and you've shown what a 77 grain .223 round can do, may I suggest you consider what the 224 Valkyrie can do with at least a 20" barrel and 80-95 grain bullets. I've been a big fan of the round since it came out and use strictly for long range shooting, in my case steel out to 1K. My ballistic app tells me my 88 ELDM will stay supersonic out to 1200 yards and the 95 SMK out to 1300, (24" barrel, 1:6T) but as yet I don't have access to that distance, but you sure do and then some. I'm sure if you ever did it, you would be hitting steel way beyond 1300. Great work. Looking forward to your next video.
Dang I didn't realize the 224 Valkyrie had that kind of range, now I'm rather intrigued. I'd say I will plan to get a video knocked out but at the moment I am not setup to shoot 224 valkyrie, I don't have an upper or any of the reloading components. That said it's very possible I could come up something later in the year. I've had my eye on a 6ARC upper but maybe I should also consider 224 Valkyrie. Really appreciate you taking the time to watch my videos and support the channel!
Excellent job. I’m looking at getting the PSA Saber in 14.5” & you have confirmed a quality 14.5” barrel is more than adequate. I would love to buy a 16” Ruger SFAR in 6.5 Creedmoor and swap the barrel to a 14.5” and see what that could do 🙃
14.5 will ping metal at that range, but it won't fragment and reliably kill somebody at that range. You'd be well below 2000 fps by then. 556 reliability fragments at 2700 fps
I would like to see this same type of test using various cartridges/calibers into 1/2” pine plywood. The marines use to use this as a test of lethality. If the bullet exits the board it would be considered a lethal wound. I think if it enters the board but doesn’t exit, that would be considered a life threatening wound. I think you’ll get a lot of views from it too. By the way, me and my brother was just discussing the maximum range of a .556 using cheap 55 grain ammo with an LPVO. So I couldn’t believe when this video popped up into my feed. With the added bonus of using 77 grain ammo. Thanks! The 55 grain performed as I expected but i did not expect how much better the 77 grain performed.
this is such good stuff! Being able to see each shot, your holds and adjustments is just awesome! Would LOVE to have a video on program you’re using and how to adjust holds!!! Please!
Great videos! 👍👍 I’m planning a bench rest pistol build in 6 ARC for my T/C Encore with 15” barrel. I was hesitant to choose the 6 ARC until seeing how well it performs in your 14.5” barrel. Thanks for providing us with such thoroughly informative and enjoyable videos to watch. You obviously put a lot of work and time into it.
Glad to hear you enjoyed watching! My opinion 14.5” is the perfect length for a 6arc setup. That said, lots more 6arc content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned!
Yessir, I'm very interested in what you got going on here! Deer season just came in so I can't really test my setup out but I can get my shit together until then and get setup for some longer shots with a 5.56 gas gun instead of my bolt guns. I've made some great shots at distance with them but not with my AR yet. So I'm taking notes and waiting for the call!
Good Video!, I always knew 55 FMJ’s were no good past 300 but I didn’t think they were that bad compared to 77’s. Sucks now days that you’ve got to go through so much Ass pain getting something on video for people to believe what ballistic charts say. I guess it’s the same as 150 grain 7.62 Ball vs a 175 grain BTHP. On Paper the .243 isn’t much better then 308 at long range, but in real life it crushes the 308. At least when I compared 90 grain Serria Game changers (~3000) vs 168 (2600) BTHP all 550 yards. My wind hold was Double with the 308 vs the .243 with those loads.
It incredible that you are shooting at such far distances and consistently hitting the target with only a 14.5" barrel. I constantly hear from people that you need a 16" or a 18" to shoot that far with an Ar-15. Thanks for disproving that! QUESTION: What Lpvo where you using?
Sure a 16” or 18” barrel might make it a little easier to shoot long range but as you can see, 14.5” is way more capable than most folks think. I actually do see the need to have a 556 rifle longer than 14.5” in my fleet haha
Dude again you are stretching my brain, and my like apparently naive view of physics...I thought I was a mad scientist for pushing a mini-14 out to 400-500 yards. Hahaha, you are the ultimate mad scientist; appreciate ya man; just keep on keepin on
Ah man don’t sell yourself short…. Shooting any kind of distance with a 556 can be a challenge, especially if conditions are anything less than ideal! I always say a little bit of luck goes a long ways on camera haha
@@MountainsMulletsMerica You are kind and generous here. In my experience, especially with more flat shooting rnds, I can push certain things way further than I'd expect given normie data. So I see your channel, and you are pushing exactly this line...like way further than I thought..and so I'm kinda happy, b/c my work has been done
@@MountainsMulletsMerica to be honest, I must admit that I was running a like 50$ scope that despite teflon reinforcement, would wiggle loose just a bit after 10 rnds, just enough that your zero is basically jacked...haha, I laugh at my amateurish forays into target shooting
Shooting Comes To A Person Misses & We All Do From Time To Time. We Use .77 Grain On Hog Which Is More Effective Than Any 55 Grain. (Regardless In Sniper School They Teach You When You Miss If You Can’t See Your Splash Than You Will Miss 2nd Time Because You Are GUESSING Again Because Nobody Will Have References To Make Adjustments For A Hit. Appreciate Your Content. Keep It Coming.
Very much appreciated! I'll try to put together more dmr/ spr content, that's my favorite type of shooting so you don't have to ask me twice to work on content haha. Stay tuned!
It really feels like the channel has been picking up steam here recently! I'm super excited about it because I love getting to put out content and then engage with each of the viewers. Stay tuned as I believe this is only just the begging!
I know a guy who set up a target, like 400-500 yards and was confident he could hit it. Told him better ammo could of helped and he blamed the rifle not being zeroed. lol
One of the MARSOC Operator who was in this very well-known video with a RECCE-ish Block II in Afghanistan stated in a personal interview that he can easily hit targets at 800 with a 14.5 barrel and match ammo.
Ah very cool, I think I know the video you are talking about. It’s been around for years. Tell you what, I was shocked how easy 800 yds felt with this setup when I filmed this video. Very consistent! Thanks for watching!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica No problem, man. As a URG-I owner and proponent, I really appreciate your video. We don't have government money or ammo supply for training, hence all this looking down when it comes to the 14.5 barrel.
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support! Trying to point out entertaining content while being straight to the point. Stay tuned for more!
With hornady 75gr BTHP projectiles loaded with 25 grains of CFE 223 I am able to get consistent hits on steel at 1000 yards out of my Larue Predatobr. 5.56 loaded properly does pretty well at extended ranges. (Disclaimer I do not condone using 5.56 for anything that requires terminal effects past 500 yards and even that would be on small game like coyotes)
Ha I was shocked when I shot this video. The consistency at 800 yds with the 77gr ammo was way better than expected and then to connect at 1000yds with a couple of rounds I never would’ve guessed that would happen. Really crazy a setup like this could be capable of that kind of accuracy at distance! Thanks for watching!
Back around 2009 John Feamster, that’s the champion shooter who wrote Black Magic, a book about maximizing AR performance, was working for the USAMU loading department. I met him while assisting the USAMU deliver the SDM Course at Ft. Benning. I told him my 1000 yard load was 24.8 Grains of RE-15 under an 80 grain Berger perched in Win. Brass primed with Win. Primers, a very accurate load but very high pressure. He told me the USAMU long range load used a powder not available commercially. I think it was a St. Mark powder, which is supposed to get high velocity at low pressure from heavy bullets. That powder may now be available commercially but I do not know its label, you? My thought is what ever that powder, if its burn is not too slow it might get heavy VLDs to the long line from barrels shorter than 20 inches.
Can't say I've ever heard of St Mark powder. I have heard many commercial and military loads use powders not commercially available though. So does the USAMU hand load for their competition rifles or are they using standard military "match" loads? If they are handloading that's actually really cool and I didn't realize the military did anything like that.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica The USAMU does indeed shoot handloaded ammunition in some competitions as well as factory match in some competitions. They stockpile components, like primers for example, from lots which are extraordinarily accurate and subsequent lots are judged against the extraordinary to be suited or not suited to particular uses. This could mean the great handloads might be reserved for National Championships.
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support. Just trying to put out entertaining content that provides the viewer with some kind of value. Stay tuned, I’ve got a lot planned for 2023.
This makes me feel good about my 14.5 and 55 grain ammo. Longest shoot I could ever possibly take is 1,000 yards in a river bottom close by, probably would never try because it has roads on both ends. A few open areas may get to 500 yards, but most are closer to 250 yards. The longest range open to the public is 135 yards.
Oh man for the distances it sounds like you’ll be shooting most frequently the 14.5” barrel with the 55gr ammo will be very capable. Thanks for watching!
I used to have a monthly opportunity to shoot in 1000 yard competitions on the Scott Mountain Range at Ft. Knox. My preferred division, Iron sight US Service Rifle. It’s the most difficult shooting there is but that’s what makes it so compelling. In fact it helps shooters to get to the highest levels of marksmanship since it requires extraordinary marksmanship just to post mediocre scores. So, at any rate, I would encourage you to explore the 1000 yard experience by shooting at 4.5 inch diameter bullseye’s at 100 yards using as issued irons. The goal should be to group 20 rounds in the half minute arena. When you get close to that mark in prone sling supported position go to Camp Perry and attend the USAMUs Small Arms Firing School. That’ll get you the credentials to shoot in Service Rifle Competitions, including 1000 yard completions there. First start by getting a Service Rifle Competition Rule Book from the CMP ( Civilian Marksmanship Program).
Hell yeah!!! Was trained with the 20" barrel in the Marine Corps and National Guard and it reaches out there for distance, but so does the barrel. Was trained with the 16" barrel when I worked for the state, but still seemed a little long for a multi-purpose rifle. Nevertheless, I have owned a 16" inch Bushmaster and Daniel Defense upper and two 14.5" pin and welded Daniel Defense versions. Yes, it would be great to get the tax stamp and run an 11.5" SBR upper, but currently like in Washington State with a so called "Assault Weapons Ban" signed into law:( Luckily, I was able to acquire a Daniel Defense M4A1 rifle with the 14.5 pin and welded rifle prior to the law going into affect. I spent a lot of time researching what I wanted if this was going to be the last SHTF rifle I would be able to own in my state (planning to move to Idaho). Why the 14.5" pin and welded? Short as I can get it with it still being legal. I personally saw no real advantage to the 16" barrel versions with the carbine and mid length gas systems as far as shooting it compared to the 14.5". The only real advantage was that the flash suppressor/muzzle break did not have to be pin and welded. I could shoot center mass at 500 yards all day with all of them with open sights (as the Marine Corps trained me). However, you take that 14.5" and add a bi-pod on the free float rail and add a ACOG or VCOG type scope and what does that do for your lethality? Guess you just proved that;)
Do t get it twisted bois and gurl, this man is a phenomenal marksman. Surprised this Chan El didn't have more views.. Guranteed thrill ultimately become a top gun channel. You wouldn't happen to be in Eastern WA would you?
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Lol, I knew it. We're the only people in the nation that are trying to bring the mullet back. You know Garand thumb is in your neighborhood as well? I'm in Omak, and took a Doyle long range class a few years back, your area looks identical to where we took his class. I make the drive to Spokane every weekend, (driving as I type) and I'm sick of seeing this rolling hay fields. But yeah, I'm being honest. Since Mike (Garand thumb) is literally 20 mins from you, I forsee collaborations. There's also a husband and wife that have a large channel and specialize in precision shooting that are in our neighborhood as well. You live down the road, and I've invested an obscene amount into Gucci firearms as well. Primarily hard to find service rifles. I'm not as Talented as you, but let me know if you need to use something for a video. Some big name channels have borrowed my firearms; mainly my FNC's to create content. I'd like to see you make a video with my MK14 EBR, and attempt to redeem its status from being most inaccurate service rifle, do the sexiest, and moderately accurate service rifle. Idk why I love the thing so damn much..
@@tomjjackson21 very cool you’re also local! Pretty cool how the channel allows folks to connect across the world or right down the street. I’m assuming Garand thumb is in the Spokane area with his AF connection? The other channel, long range with the lilys is another one I enjoy! Do you have an Instagram? Your MK14 has my attention! Like you I would love to show off how well they can actually shoot!
I know this is an old video, 1 year at this point, but I think your results with the Wolf ammo was evident at 100 yds. the groups just opened up that much more not to mention the spread in velocity making it more challenging to hit your target at distance. It would be interesting to see what the 55gr. would do with some quality ammo that shot tight groups from the start. Of course they would still be more susceptible to the wind than the 77gr.and probably going subsonic sooner losing stability. I'm sure the down range energy out of a 14.5 bbl might be enough to hit the steel, but would it get good penetration on a "critter" of some size for a battle rifle to do the job? Would still work as a stand off round. Love your videos, awesome shooting area, we get to enjoy it vicariously thru you. Keep it up.
US Service Rifle Division of NRA Long-Range Competition proves the match conditioned AR-15 A2 and A4 can shoot some loadings which will reach the 1000 yard line nose-on and where aimed within 2 MOA when fired by High Master Competitors. The point of it is it takes a great amount of knowledge and skill to get good hits at 1000 yards from an AR but it’s a lot of fun especially using iron sights and it helps those who have an interest in developing their marksmanship to the highest level. For sure, without some marksmanship training hitting where aimed at 1000 yards with an iron sight AR is not at all likely.
1000 yds with an iron sight 556 AR is an awesome accomplishment! For practical long range shooting like demonstrated in the video I’m relatively confident out to 600-800 yds. Beyond that I felt like performance of this package really fell apart. That said however, super fun to try to push the limits on what the setup is capable of! Thanks for watching!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica yeah, long range with the AR is just the most fun. My scores are pretty pathetic usually due to not correctly countering for wind. Even shooting an 80 grain VLD I can only muster an MOA wind constant of 10, meaning just a 1 mph full value wind change will displace bullet over 10 inches, which precludes enough X-Ring hits to win anything.
@@charlesludwig9173 man that's essentially zero margin for error. Impossible to judge a 1mph change on the fly and failure to stay on top of that means you're out of the running. That's gotta be a fun challenge though!
@@MountainsMulletsMericaYeah, considering you’re shooting a bullet that will barely make it to 1000 yards nose-on from iron sights in sling supported prone position sometimes in fog which requires a strategy for aiming, it can be extremely difficult to get hits in the 20 inch 10 Ring even in a no wind condition. Add a non prevailing wind and the only thing for sure is the winning shooter will be incredibly skilled as well as lucky. For me, the challenge of it has inspired Marksmanship development beyond comprehension, only tempered by my vision. At any rate, Marksmanship development promoted by .223 shooting at the long line has helped me earn the US Distinguished Rifleman Badge, the NRA American High-Power Rifleman Award in Long-Range, as well as a position assisting the USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS Training. It’s been a fun trip that began on an afternoon heading to a skeet range on a Military Reservation which I somehow missed to end up on a 1000 yard range where I was able to observe what looked like more fun than skeet shooting.
Dang...you stretched out the distance more than I thought possible for a 14.5" barrel...you made 790 looked easy with 77gr...even with just an LPVO...I can imagine what that rifle would do woth a 3-18 or 6-24 scope. Nice video.
Certainly winds could mix things up a bit but out to 800 yds with that setup and 77gr ammo was very doable and consistent. The key is being able to spot impacts, if you’re conditions don’t let you spot impacts/ misses it becomes a real challenge. In my opinion that’s where a harder hitting caliber might have an advantage, That extra energy makes spotting easier. Super fun pushing the envelop though!
Great series of videos. A little jealous, paper only range out to 100 yards for me. Still, getting future info and living vicariously through these videos.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch! When I lived on the east coast I spent a ton of time shooting 100yds and in. You can still really hone your long range skills with access to 100 yds. Then when the day comes you can stretch further you’ll be way ahead of the curve.
depending on who you talk too, and if you radar it, the IMI ammo is generally loaded hot as piss without as much regard for accuracy. I was looking for your video on mk18 that you had (can't seem to find it) but I was going to say that accuracy noted out of that daniel is not great. We tested some 55 grain IMI lately and it was exactly as stated, loaded hot, and didn't group well. Just thought we would mention that you may want to go elsewhere for ammo, hell even AAC's new line of match ammo I'd trust more for consistency, especially for the value. That said, great videos, keep up the good work. Not going to tell you how to shoot, you are clearly doing it right, that was the only gripe. Perhaps that particular line is better, but we haven't had much luck with the IMI stuff. You got the right grain, but probably could grab another brand.
@@CoryHobbs2178 I’ll take a look at mid tier snobs…. I might actually be a member and just don’t recall. There are so many of those groups it’s hard to keep track of them all haha
Darn fine shooting. I'm envious you have somewhere to shoot that far. The closest 600+ yard range for me is over a hour and a half away. If it's been raining at all there is no way to get down range.
You speak so clearly on camera, it's honestly refreshing how well you convey the subject matter.
Appreciate that! Just trying to provide entertaining content In a clear and concise manner. Glad you enjoyed and thank you for watching!
Agreed! Most other channels have done “edgy” BS. This channel is educational and therapy those of us on the east coast that cannot think about shooting at the distances you do.
And no annoying background music, too.
Love this dude! Not afraid to include his misses, very well spoken, humble and very knowledgeable. This channel must blow up!
Appreciate the support! My channel has seen a ton of growth recently and I’m super thankful this. I’m confident if I keep pumping out quality content it’s only a matter of time before the channel gets huge!
yest amplify above sentiment
No one is going to believe this, but when I was 21 years old, I took a Rack grade M16A2 with Iron sights, M855 Ball and made a first round impact on the standard issue USMC qualification target at 1,000 yards. I hit it in the head. Open sights, using a Canvas web sling, and an issue leather work glove.
I don’t remember how many times I hit it, but I feel dam proud of myself now. I never thought it was a big deal until I saw this video.
I dialed the rear sight to 800 Meters plus a couple clicks until it maxed out. then as my breath exited my lungs and my front sight post was even with the target frame, all while putting a very slow steady trigger squeeze. I made a few hits.
A 20" 1:9 twist M16A2 with open sights was the standard then for us Army Grunts in the late 80s. We had the pop up targets from 25m to 300m and advanced marksmanship moving targets as well. M855 with a 20" barrel can hit 800 plus meters on a good day easily.
Much respect to you Marine!
Rangers Lead The Way!!
Brother, I'm hooked on watching these long(ish) shooting videos! Thank you for feeding the beast! LOL I love it!
Same here.
Yah low key ASMR type videos lol
You get a like 👍🏾 for the long ass walk you had to take to bring us this great content. I aspire to be the marksman that you are. Phenomenal shooting Sir!
Great video. Love seeing the AR being stretched out from a normal length barrel. Keep the videos coming.
I think most people would say a "normal" or at least original as designed length barrel is 20"... Also he has a massive can on there and yes that makes a difference so it's pretty close. Take the can off and you're going to see a huge performance drop.
Question for you sir,......accuracy is dependent upon sound/signature mitigation & back pressure? I understand a can will shrink group sizes down for most rifles but I'm not sure it will make that much difference. Maybe a 10% to 15% decrease at the longer distances.. ammunition and optic along with the ability to spot misses play a larger role at those distances has been my experience, and is more important in my opinion. What do you think?
@@beargillium2369 how would the suppressor have any noticeable effect?
Beyond the expected 50ft/s or so from increased pressures that wouldn't be considered noteworthy for a 2800ft/s projectile
@@Courtesyflush52 where are you getting those numbers?
@@beargillium2369 From measuring velocities for 5.56,.308, .277 Fury, and .338NM with and without suppressors. Have velocity data with SD's for about 10,000 rounds of factory ammo, and another 30,000 without detailed SD's
If you're seeing a larger increase than about 40-50ft/s for 2500-3500ft/s MV projectiles, something is wrong with your gun or the lot of ammo
Excellent shooting. Nice to see a 14.5 can go the distance.
For sure, the 14.5" had much better performance with the 77gr ammo than I was expecting.
I think i read its supersonic out of 14.5 up to like 600 sumthin yards or a lil further
@@kalanipitmon7817 This is good to know. I have a 1-8x NF (not the ATACR version) mounted on my 14.5.
I want to see a tape measure on that barrel. It looks alot longer than 14.5"
You’re the only shooting channel I’ve seen with HLG HDR image setting, it looks AMAZING.
Some of the best most concise info on long range shooting as well, not bad kid!
Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel! Stay tuned as I've got big plans and hope to improve my content with every new video!
I have a feeling your channel is going to blow up soon! This is what everyone has been craving I can’t get enough!!
Oh man I’ve had a ton of growth within the last 6 weeks or so. Super exciting. Lots more content planned, just have to find time to get it all filmed and edited. Should be able to hit fresh content pretty hard in March.
Great video. People under estimate the ar 15. I shoot 62 grain on all my ar platforms. My ars are more budget ars but they love 62 grain and I bought bulk ammo years ago. Keep up the great videos brother!!!!
Thank you! I bet 62gr ammo would have performed a little better than the 55gr did. The 62gr bullet might be a better match for the 1/7” twist of this barrel. I bet you’re glad you invested in ammo back in the day! Prices are nuts right now.
I'm really enjoying these precise range videos you're making. I'm getting into precision shooting and this is great info and fun to watch.
Awesome to hear you’re finding value in my content! Lots of fresh videos in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned!
I love taking my 223 to distance.
I've been looking at that 1-10 but my heart keeps going back to the NF 1-8 with that newer DMX reticle
I don't have personal experience with the new reticle in the ATACR 1-8 but after spending time with this 1-10 I'm sold on this thing. I'm not really sure what the ATACR 1-8 would have to offer that would change my opinion. My favorite part about the 1-10 is the transparent center dot.
I've been thinking about building a 14.5" for 500m and in but I was worried it might be somewhat unrealistic. This definitely erased most of my doubts. Sub 16" with the right ammo is clearly very effective. Very good video!
Oh man 14.5" is more than capable to 500m, hands down my favorite barrel for a 556 rifle. Check out my more recent video where I show how 556 compares to 762 in a DMR role. ruclips.net/video/vuRkQZzVR8g/видео.html If you go 14.5" you won't be disappointed!
Awesome production!! Love the camera close to the target, while you shoot through the scope cam!
My opinion the scope cam footage has really taken my videos to the next level. Makes for a much better viewing experience as you can see what I'm seeing and talking about when I shoot. Thanks for watching and stay tuned as I've got a bunch more cool video ideas in the works!
Man that last shot in the summary is beautiful!
Man this area is pretty unreal when it comes to scenery!
Awesome video. Great to see the capability of that barrel length/optics setup. Keep ‘em coming.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch! Tons more content in the works so stay tuned
That land is absolutely gorgeous. What an amazing backdrop. Awesome video!! Keep up the good work!!
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support! Stay tuned as I hope to continue improving with each video I put out!
Awesome video! I regularly shoot my 18 inch AR out to 500 meters. Range goes to 800 meters. This video has encouraged me to step up my game and get consistent at 800.
Good stuff! I bet you’ll be really impressed what your 18” rifle is capable of with a nice match bullet! Depending on your range conditions 556 can get hard to spot past 600yds or so in my experience. That little round barely moves the plate or makes a splash in the dirt.
Great video! I might add that twist might come in to play especially at those distances. I know a 77 is going to prefer a faster twist like 1:7 more than a 55 that might prefer something like a 1:10. What are your thoughts? Again, I appreciate your videos and you’re doing great man! New subscriber here!
Have to say probably one of the best exhibitions that actually ANSWERS THE QUESTION!! Army qualifying with the M16 A1 (80's) we go out to 300m with 3 sec to kill two pop-ups using the iron sights as we had no fancy ACOG. M193 ball. Obviously, you prove it can go out another 100 (you did not state the twist rate of that barrel). Anyway, I picked-up a UTG 3-9x32 for Christmas a couple of years ago and did quite well first time out. Then 2nd time, consistency was all over. Realized turrets were opposite of moving POI to POA! Recently bore-sighted it and corrected the collar spacing so hoping to perform better next time. Would like to know what you used to get scope picture into video? Demonstration of holdover best I've seen to date!
Wow envious of being able to shoot in such beautiful country. Not bad marksmanship to boot!
Growing up as a fan of long range shooting on the east coast I always dreamed of the opportunity to shoot in a place like this. Really blessed to now have access to such a cool area to get to shoot. Thanks for watching!
I have an idea for a video that I've been trying to search for... a comparison of all the different 77gr BTHP ammo out there... (plus the Hornady 75gr BTHP since it's close enough). I not only want to see accuracy but ballistic gel comparisons.
The 77SMK kinda changed the game for AR15s, especially in the shorter barrels.
I have a 12.5 MLG(regain some of that 18 RLG softness) i run a 2.5-10 on, and find that while yes its not quite as good at range as my SPR, the difference inside ~600y is minimal enough that if you have a reason to want more agility / storage practicality, its an easy tradeoff. The falloff of 556 past that, with any practical barrel length, really makes little difference and its all about your wind skills at that point. I do think the 13.9/14.5 is more where you want to be, but i had a specific place i wanted to be able to store it, and the 12.5 + LAW made that work.
The only thing holding the setup back at range is the loss of running something like a 18x MK5, where i think a vast majority of the power of the more modern SPR setup lays. There is no reason you couldnt run something like that on a 12.5, i just thought a lighter 10x with a faster reticle was a more balanced choice, for myself.
Do think the basic rule of take the longest barrel you have no reason not to take still applies, but i think a lot of people tend to overestimate how much advantage that longer barrel gets you. Its power really lies more in the wiggle room it gets you when shooting at changing UKD intermediate targets than extending range, but again its pretty minimal.
Keep it comin man. Criminally underrated channel.
Great comments here that I 100% agree with. For sure I think the success you see in longer barrel AR precision rigs is usually due to the optics package but as you mention often times these optics packages aren't the most practical on a "fighting" AR. Personally I don't see the need in a 5.56 AR with a barrel longer than 14.5" anymore. I've found the shorter barrel rifles very capable for the distances I want to shoot 5.56, if I need more energy or distance I've got other larger calibers I can utilize. Thanks for watching! I'm a new channel so we're just getting going but it's your support that's going to make us big time in no time!
I wasn't crazy for putting a 1-8 lpvo on my 12.5 then. Interesting info.
Very helpful. If possible at some point can you do an 18” with 77gr and the 1-10 optic.
You rule! Keep up the good work.
I'll have to round up an 18" upper but I bet I can pull it off. It would be interesting to see how the 14.5 stacks up against and 18. I know I was shocked at how well the 14.5 performed especially in the wind when I filmed this. Thanks for taking the time to check out my video!
I've done 625 yards with a 18" barrel. Was fairly easy to ping off the target. Ran 9 out of 10 with 55 grain and 77 was about the same
I got a 14.5 with a 5x scope and it just good all around shooter. Im going to subscribe because the way you put this video together is very practical. Slick content man
Thank you! Really appreciate the support. Lots more content like this planned so stay tuned!
Almost skipped this video when it came up in one of my searches because of the channel name. Glad I didn't! I really enjoyed this video and several others that I have since watched. Great content and you're good at what you do. You have a new subscriber and the name has since grown on me:)
Man I’m glad you didn’t skip my video haha. I actually debated the channel name a long time before launching. I ended up going with MMM as I wanted a name that was somewhat vague enough that I could potentially expand the channel into other types of content down the road while still showing I’m a lover of our American freedoms! Lots of fresh content in the works so I hope you’ll stay tuned! Thanks for the support!
Great shooting and good video, thanks for making! I've shot my 18" supressed Mk12 with Mk262 mod1 to 1K on multiple occasions, I had my Mk4 MR/T maxed out on elevation with the M3 knobs and had a 3.5 mil holdover, and can only do it in dead calm winds at my pressure station. The Crane center certainly did their homework with this rig!!!
Man that’s awesome! Given how the 14.5” barrel performed I’m sure an 18” MK12 is a blast to stretch to 800+ yds. The challenge for me is spotting impacts that far out with 556. Not much energy left out there to make a splash. Thanks for watching!
Great shooting. Nice setup. Well done sir.
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Love everything you do on this channel, keep it up please.
Awesome to hear you’re enjoying my content! Lots of fresh content in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out!
this is almost identical to my setup I use in spr matches out to 800 yards! great work
Very cool, a great setup if the bulk of your shots are going to be under 800 yds in my opinion. Thanks for watching!
Great vid, very impressive. I have hope. Just ordered a 14.7" bbl so this should be fun
Great video as always!!!
Very impressive, 500 yards that is all I care about. Thank you brother.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch! If your max distance is 500 yds then a 14.5” 5.56 AR would be a great choice!
About two weeks ago I came across one of your videos (MRAD vs. RPR) and loved it. Great format, excellent content and presentation. Subscribed on the spot. Since you have the distance and you've shown what a 77 grain .223 round can do, may I suggest you consider what the 224 Valkyrie can do with at least a 20" barrel and 80-95 grain bullets. I've been a big fan of the round since it came out and use strictly for long range shooting, in my case steel out to 1K. My ballistic app tells me my 88 ELDM will stay supersonic out to 1200 yards and the 95 SMK out to 1300, (24" barrel, 1:6T) but as yet I don't have access to that distance, but you sure do and then some. I'm sure if you ever did it, you would be hitting steel way beyond 1300. Great work. Looking forward to your next video.
Dang I didn't realize the 224 Valkyrie had that kind of range, now I'm rather intrigued. I'd say I will plan to get a video knocked out but at the moment I am not setup to shoot 224 valkyrie, I don't have an upper or any of the reloading components. That said it's very possible I could come up something later in the year. I've had my eye on a 6ARC upper but maybe I should also consider 224 Valkyrie. Really appreciate you taking the time to watch my videos and support the channel!
Excellent job. I’m looking at getting the PSA Saber in 14.5” & you have confirmed a quality 14.5” barrel is more than adequate.
I would love to buy a 16” Ruger SFAR in 6.5 Creedmoor and swap the barrel to a 14.5” and see what that could do 🙃
True trigger therapy session right here.
This was great! Thank you. The 556 is a fun round to play with at the range you are shooting.
14.5 will ping metal at that range, but it won't fragment and reliably kill somebody at that range. You'd be well below 2000 fps by then. 556 reliability fragments at 2700 fps
I would like to see this same type of test using various cartridges/calibers into 1/2” pine plywood. The marines use to use this as a test of lethality. If the bullet exits the board it would be considered a lethal wound. I think if it enters the board but doesn’t exit, that would be considered a life threatening wound. I think you’ll get a lot of views from it too.
By the way, me and my brother was just discussing the maximum range of a .556 using cheap 55 grain ammo with an LPVO. So I couldn’t believe when this video popped up into my feed. With the added bonus of using 77 grain ammo. Thanks!
The 55 grain performed as I expected but i did not expect how much better the 77 grain performed.
Great video! Clear and concise information. Keep it up!
this is such good stuff! Being able to see each shot, your holds and adjustments is just awesome! Would LOVE to have a video on program you’re using and how to adjust holds!!! Please!
Great videos! 👍👍
I’m planning a bench rest pistol build in 6 ARC for my T/C Encore with 15” barrel. I was hesitant to choose the 6 ARC until seeing how well it performs in your 14.5” barrel.
Thanks for providing us with such thoroughly informative and enjoyable videos to watch. You obviously put a lot of work and time into it.
Glad to hear you enjoyed watching! My opinion 14.5” is the perfect length for a 6arc setup. That said, lots more 6arc content coming so hope you’ll stay tuned!
This is an excellent video. Those hits at 1040 were as satisfying as watching a long putt go in on a Major Sunday.
Pretty epic with a 14.5" 5.56 AR! I'd like to say it was skill but we all know it was mostly luck haha
Yessir, I'm very interested in what you got going on here! Deer season just came in so I can't really test my setup out but I can get my shit together until then and get setup for some longer shots with a 5.56 gas gun instead of my bolt guns. I've made some great shots at distance with them but not with my AR yet. So I'm taking notes and waiting for the call!
I'm glad I found your channel, great vids man.
KEEP'EM COMING BRO!
Will do! Hoping to get a couple more AR carbine focused videos out by the end of the year. Stay tuned! Appreciate the support!
Good Video!, I always knew 55 FMJ’s were no good past 300 but I didn’t think they were that bad compared to 77’s.
Sucks now days that you’ve got to go through so much Ass pain getting something on video for people to believe what ballistic charts say.
I guess it’s the same as 150 grain 7.62 Ball vs a 175 grain BTHP.
On Paper the .243 isn’t much better then 308 at long range, but in real life it crushes the 308. At least when I compared 90 grain Serria Game changers (~3000) vs 168 (2600) BTHP all 550 yards.
My wind hold was Double with the 308 vs the .243 with those loads.
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It incredible that you are shooting at such far distances and consistently hitting the target with only a 14.5" barrel. I constantly hear from people that you need a 16" or a 18" to shoot that far with an Ar-15. Thanks for disproving that! QUESTION: What Lpvo where you using?
Sure a 16” or 18” barrel might make it a little easier to shoot long range but as you can see, 14.5” is way more capable than most folks think. I actually do see the need to have a 556 rifle longer than 14.5” in my fleet haha
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Do you know how much father a 16" or 18" barrel can go before going subsonic than a 14.5"?
Not guna lie, u got some of the sweetest gear iv seen. Good job bro
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch. Hoping to put out lots of content in 2023 so stay tuned!
I'm not very "Merica," but i do like your channel and just hit the bell icon!
Really appreciate the support! Lots of new content in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned!
Dude again you are stretching my brain, and my like apparently naive view of physics...I thought I was a mad scientist for pushing a mini-14 out to 400-500 yards. Hahaha, you are the ultimate mad scientist; appreciate ya man; just keep on keepin on
Ah man don’t sell yourself short…. Shooting any kind of distance with a 556 can be a challenge, especially if conditions are anything less than ideal! I always say a little bit of luck goes a long ways on camera haha
@@MountainsMulletsMerica You are kind and generous here. In my experience, especially with more flat shooting rnds, I can push certain things way further than I'd expect given normie data. So I see your channel, and you are pushing exactly this line...like way further than I thought..and so I'm kinda happy, b/c my work has been done
@@MountainsMulletsMerica to be honest, I must admit that I was running a like 50$ scope that despite teflon reinforcement, would wiggle loose just a bit after 10 rnds, just enough that your zero is basically jacked...haha, I laugh at my amateurish forays into target shooting
Shooting Comes To A Person Misses & We All Do From Time To Time. We Use .77 Grain On Hog Which Is More Effective Than Any 55 Grain. (Regardless In Sniper School They Teach You When You Miss If You Can’t See Your Splash Than You Will Miss 2nd Time Because You Are GUESSING Again Because Nobody Will Have References To Make Adjustments For A Hit. Appreciate Your Content. Keep It Coming.
Wow this is some incredible shooting insane I had no idea.
Love the dmr/spr videos man! Awesome channel
Very much appreciated! I'll try to put together more dmr/ spr content, that's my favorite type of shooting so you don't have to ask me twice to work on content haha. Stay tuned!
Awesome to see your channel grow!
It really feels like the channel has been picking up steam here recently! I'm super excited about it because I love getting to put out content and then engage with each of the viewers. Stay tuned as I believe this is only just the begging!
I know a guy who set up a target, like 400-500 yards and was confident he could hit it. Told him better ammo could of helped and he blamed the rifle not being zeroed. lol
Another great video. Thanks man!
Thanks again for taking the time to watch!
One of the MARSOC Operator who was in this very well-known video with a RECCE-ish Block II in Afghanistan stated in a personal interview that he can easily hit targets at 800 with a 14.5 barrel and match ammo.
Ah very cool, I think I know the video you are talking about. It’s been around for years. Tell you what, I was shocked how easy 800 yds felt with this setup when I filmed this video. Very consistent! Thanks for watching!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica No problem, man. As a URG-I owner and proponent, I really appreciate your video. We don't have government money or ammo supply for training, hence all this looking down when it comes to the 14.5 barrel.
You've earned a new subscriber. Pretty cool video for being very simple. Good shooting!
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch and support! Trying to point out entertaining content while being straight to the point. Stay tuned for more!
Thats some badass shooting friend. Makes me alot more confident stretching the legs on my 24in 556 gun
Appreciate it! Man a 24” barrel running some heavy pills I’d bet you’d be surprised how far you can make consistent hits. Thanks for watching!
With hornady 75gr BTHP projectiles loaded with 25 grains of CFE 223 I am able to get consistent hits on steel at 1000 yards out of my Larue Predatobr. 5.56 loaded properly does pretty well at extended ranges. (Disclaimer I do not condone using 5.56 for anything that requires terminal effects past 500 yards and even that would be on small game like coyotes)
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That’s awesome! Really appreciate the support! Stay tuned as I’ve got a lot of content planned for 2023.
That was a crazy long shot with a 14.5 inch barrel and .223. Crazy.
Ha I was shocked when I shot this video. The consistency at 800 yds with the 77gr ammo was way better than expected and then to connect at 1000yds with a couple of rounds I never would’ve guessed that would happen. Really crazy a setup like this could be capable of that kind of accuracy at distance! Thanks for watching!
Back around 2009 John Feamster, that’s the champion shooter who wrote Black Magic, a book about maximizing AR performance, was working for the USAMU loading department. I met him while assisting the USAMU deliver the SDM Course at Ft. Benning. I told him my 1000 yard load was 24.8 Grains of RE-15 under an 80 grain Berger perched in Win. Brass primed with Win. Primers, a very accurate load but very high pressure. He told me the USAMU long range load used a powder not available commercially. I think it was a St. Mark powder, which is supposed to get high velocity at low pressure from heavy bullets. That powder may now be available commercially but I do not know its label, you? My thought is what ever that powder, if its burn is not too slow it might get heavy VLDs to the long line from barrels shorter than 20 inches.
Can't say I've ever heard of St Mark powder. I have heard many commercial and military loads use powders not commercially available though. So does the USAMU hand load for their competition rifles or are they using standard military "match" loads? If they are handloading that's actually really cool and I didn't realize the military did anything like that.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica The USAMU does indeed shoot handloaded ammunition in some competitions as well as factory match in some competitions. They stockpile components, like primers for example, from lots which are extraordinarily accurate and subsequent lots are judged against the extraordinary to be suited or not suited to particular uses. This could mean the great handloads might be reserved for National Championships.
Excellent. Glad to see a config like that.
Stay tuned as there will be more long range content with a 14.5” ar! I’m thinking I’ll push my block II upper to distance using the BDC in an AGCO.
LOVE this channel. Your videos are ver clear and concise for practical applications
Thank you! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support. Just trying to put out entertaining content that provides the viewer with some kind of value. Stay tuned, I’ve got a lot planned for 2023.
Beautiful America Landscapes 😍
This makes me feel good about my 14.5 and 55 grain ammo.
Longest shoot I could ever possibly take is 1,000 yards in a river bottom close by, probably would never try because it has roads on both ends.
A few open areas may get to 500 yards, but most are closer to 250 yards.
The longest range open to the public is 135 yards.
Oh man for the distances it sounds like you’ll be shooting most frequently the 14.5” barrel with the 55gr ammo will be very capable. Thanks for watching!
I used to have a monthly opportunity to shoot in 1000 yard competitions on the Scott Mountain Range at Ft. Knox. My preferred division, Iron sight US Service Rifle. It’s the most difficult shooting there is but that’s what makes it so compelling. In fact it helps shooters to get to the highest levels of marksmanship since it requires extraordinary marksmanship just to post mediocre scores. So, at any rate, I would encourage you to explore the 1000 yard experience by shooting at 4.5 inch diameter bullseye’s at 100 yards using as issued irons. The goal should be to group 20 rounds in the half minute arena. When you get close to that mark in prone sling supported position go to Camp Perry and attend the USAMUs Small Arms Firing School. That’ll get you the credentials to shoot in Service Rifle Competitions, including 1000 yard completions there. First start by getting a Service Rifle Competition Rule Book from the CMP ( Civilian Marksmanship Program).
Solid information! Thank you!
Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Outstanding video
Thank you!
Great video on capabilities.. of course shooter skill being paramount as displayed 🇺🇸
Hell yeah!!! Was trained with the 20" barrel in the Marine Corps and National Guard and it reaches out there for distance, but so does the barrel. Was trained with the 16" barrel when I worked for the state, but still seemed a little long for a multi-purpose rifle. Nevertheless, I have owned a 16" inch Bushmaster and Daniel Defense upper and two 14.5" pin and welded Daniel Defense versions. Yes, it would be great to get the tax stamp and run an 11.5" SBR upper, but currently like in Washington State with a so called "Assault Weapons Ban" signed into law:( Luckily, I was able to acquire a Daniel Defense M4A1 rifle with the 14.5 pin and welded rifle prior to the law going into affect. I spent a lot of time researching what I wanted if this was going to be the last SHTF rifle I would be able to own in my state (planning to move to Idaho).
Why the 14.5" pin and welded? Short as I can get it with it still being legal. I personally saw no real advantage to the 16" barrel versions with the carbine and mid length gas systems as far as shooting it compared to the 14.5". The only real advantage was that the flash suppressor/muzzle break did not have to be pin and welded. I could shoot center mass at 500 yards all day with all of them with open sights (as the Marine Corps trained me). However, you take that 14.5" and add a bi-pod on the free float rail and add a ACOG or VCOG type scope and what does that do for your lethality? Guess you just proved that;)
Love what you do my brother!! Merica!!
Do t get it twisted bois and gurl, this man is a phenomenal marksman. Surprised this Chan El didn't have more views.. Guranteed thrill ultimately become a top gun channel.
You wouldn't happen to be in Eastern WA would you?
Man I appreciate the compliment! Tons of growth happening so stay tuned! Yes, I’m located in eastern WA.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica Lol, I knew it. We're the only people in the nation that are trying to bring the mullet back. You know Garand thumb is in your neighborhood as well? I'm in Omak, and took a Doyle long range class a few years back, your area looks identical to where we took his class. I make the drive to Spokane every weekend, (driving as I type) and I'm sick of seeing this rolling hay fields.
But yeah, I'm being honest. Since Mike (Garand thumb) is literally 20 mins from you, I forsee collaborations. There's also a husband and wife that have a large channel and specialize in precision shooting that are in our neighborhood as well.
You live down the road, and I've invested an obscene amount into Gucci firearms as well. Primarily hard to find service rifles. I'm not as Talented as you, but let me know if you need to use something for a video. Some big name channels have borrowed my firearms; mainly my FNC's to create content. I'd like to see you make a video with my MK14 EBR, and attempt to redeem its status from being most inaccurate service rifle, do the sexiest, and moderately accurate service rifle. Idk why I love the thing so damn much..
@@tomjjackson21 very cool you’re also local! Pretty cool how the channel allows folks to connect across the world or right down the street. I’m assuming Garand thumb is in the Spokane area with his AF connection? The other channel, long range with the lilys is another one I enjoy! Do you have an Instagram? Your MK14 has my attention! Like you I would love to show off how well they can actually shoot!
I know this is an old video, 1 year at this point, but I think your results with the Wolf ammo was evident at 100 yds. the groups just opened up that much more not to mention the spread in velocity making it more challenging to hit your target at distance. It would be interesting to see what the 55gr. would do with some quality ammo that shot tight groups from the start. Of course they would still be more susceptible to the wind than the 77gr.and probably going subsonic sooner losing stability. I'm sure the down range energy out of a 14.5 bbl might be enough to hit the steel, but would it get good penetration on a "critter" of some size for a battle rifle to do the job? Would still work as a stand off round. Love your videos, awesome shooting area, we get to enjoy it vicariously thru you. Keep it up.
5’ bullet drop and crosshair aiming at the sky. Lmao. Beautiful
US Service Rifle Division of NRA Long-Range Competition proves the match conditioned AR-15 A2 and A4 can shoot some loadings which will reach the 1000 yard line nose-on and where aimed within 2 MOA when fired by High Master Competitors. The point of it is it takes a great amount of knowledge and skill to get good hits at 1000 yards from an AR but it’s a lot of fun especially using iron sights and it helps those who have an interest in developing their marksmanship to the highest level. For sure, without some marksmanship training hitting where aimed at 1000 yards with an iron sight AR is not at all likely.
1000 yds with an iron sight 556 AR is an awesome accomplishment! For practical long range shooting like demonstrated in the video I’m relatively confident out to 600-800 yds. Beyond that I felt like performance of this package really fell apart. That said however, super fun to try to push the limits on what the setup is capable of! Thanks for watching!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica yeah, long range with the AR is just the most fun. My scores are pretty pathetic usually due to not correctly countering for wind. Even shooting an 80 grain VLD I can only muster an MOA wind constant of 10, meaning just a 1 mph full value wind change will displace bullet over 10 inches, which precludes enough X-Ring hits to win anything.
@@charlesludwig9173 man that's essentially zero margin for error. Impossible to judge a 1mph change on the fly and failure to stay on top of that means you're out of the running. That's gotta be a fun challenge though!
@@MountainsMulletsMericaYeah, considering you’re shooting a bullet that will barely make it to 1000 yards nose-on from iron sights in sling supported prone position sometimes in fog which requires a strategy for aiming, it can be extremely difficult to get hits in the 20 inch 10 Ring even in a no wind condition. Add a non prevailing wind and the only thing for sure is the winning shooter will be incredibly skilled as well as lucky. For me, the challenge of it has inspired Marksmanship development beyond comprehension, only tempered by my vision. At any rate, Marksmanship development promoted by .223 shooting at the long line has helped me earn the US Distinguished Rifleman Badge, the NRA American High-Power Rifleman Award in Long-Range, as well as a position assisting the USAMU deliver SDM, TTT, and SAFS Training. It’s been a fun trip that began on an afternoon heading to a skeet range on a Military Reservation which I somehow missed to end up on a 1000 yard range where I was able to observe what looked like more fun than skeet shooting.
Awesome shooting
Thank you!
Dang...you stretched out the distance more than I thought possible for a 14.5" barrel...you made 790 looked easy with 77gr...even with just an LPVO...I can imagine what that rifle would do woth a 3-18 or 6-24 scope. Nice video.
Certainly winds could mix things up a bit but out to 800 yds with that setup and 77gr ammo was very doable and consistent. The key is being able to spot impacts, if you’re conditions don’t let you spot impacts/ misses it becomes a real challenge. In my opinion that’s where a harder hitting caliber might have an advantage, That extra energy makes spotting easier. Super fun pushing the envelop though!
Keep up the great vids and shooting bud!
Damn man great content, glad I found your channel. I’ve been binge watching since I’ve found you.
Awesome! Really appreciate the support. Lots of fresh content in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned!
10/10 video!
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Great video and knowledge, thank you!
Excellent video. I’ve been binge watching your videos.keep up the good work
Thank you! Appreciate the support! I’ve got a lot of cool content planned for 2023 so stay tuned.
Great series of videos. A little jealous, paper only range out to 100 yards for me. Still, getting future info and living vicariously through these videos.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch! When I lived on the east coast I spent a ton of time shooting 100yds and in. You can still really hone your long range skills with access to 100 yds. Then when the day comes you can stretch further you’ll be way ahead of the curve.
Bad ass dude nice video. Thank you.
Appreciate it!
Just now found you five minutes ago. Subscribed. Will see how you do.
Good deal! Appreciate you taking the time to watch and support the channel. Fresh content on the way so I hope you’ll stay tuned.
Wow. You are saving me money on ammo!!!! Thanks!
Man awesome to hear you found value in watching this one! Lots more content like this in the works so hope you’ll stay tuned to check it out!
depending on who you talk too, and if you radar it, the IMI ammo is generally loaded hot as piss without as much regard for accuracy. I was looking for your video on mk18 that you had (can't seem to find it) but I was going to say that accuracy noted out of that daniel is not great. We tested some 55 grain IMI lately and it was exactly as stated, loaded hot, and didn't group well. Just thought we would mention that you may want to go elsewhere for ammo, hell even AAC's new line of match ammo I'd trust more for consistency, especially for the value. That said, great videos, keep up the good work. Not going to tell you how to shoot, you are clearly doing it right, that was the only gripe. Perhaps that particular line is better, but we haven't had much luck with the IMI stuff. You got the right grain, but probably could grab another brand.
Subbed. Definitely an underrated channel
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Nice job sir!
Thank you!
Very useful. Thanks.
Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Man I'm hooked on these longer range 556 vids already
Really appreciate you taking the time to watch! Should have more long range 5.56 videos in 2023 so stay tuned!
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I'm starting to think you're a member in HTS, MTS, or DFC, do those ring any bells?
@@CoryHobbs2178 Yessir, I'm a member of the DFC as well as several other groups but can't say I'm familiar with MTS or HTS.
@@MountainsMulletsMerica I had a sneaking suspicion. Mid Tier Snobs is pretty cool
@@CoryHobbs2178 I’ll take a look at mid tier snobs…. I might actually be a member and just don’t recall. There are so many of those groups it’s hard to keep track of them all haha
Love your content! What app are you using?
Very cool man. Informative x10!
Thanks for watching!
Keep ‘em coming brother🤙
Lots of content planned in 2023 so stay tuned!
Darn fine shooting. I'm envious you have somewhere to shoot that far. The closest 600+ yard range for me is over a hour and a half away. If it's been raining at all there is no way to get down range.
Thank you! Man I moved out west from Georgia about 5 years ago…. I’ve found myself in a long range shooting paradise and I’m super thankful for it!
Fantastic video my dude. Love your video format. Keep it up!!
Thank you! I had a blast making this one. Lots more content planned in 2023 so stay tuned!
Great video, really enjoyed this. Thank You!
Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
Always and forever my hero
Haha much appreciated! Thanks for watching!